The scout I’s had two generations the 80, and 800. In my 1976 Scout II Traveler, I had a Dana 44 rear axle with limited slip. - it was a 4x2 with leaf springs at all four corners and a solid steel tube front axle. Typically the 4x4 models came with the 345 4bbl, and the 4x2’s were equipped like mine with the 304 2bbl Comanche 8 - the ignition & distributor were Prestolite, the transmission was the 727 TorqueFlite, Alternator was delco, power steering pump was Saginaw. The Traveller removable top was fiberglass, but was still a bear to remove. The A/C was a York style compressor, and the evaporator was a plastic under dash aftermarket style ac, separate from the heat/vent/defrost in the dash. A combination of an impossible to source curved rear glass on the hatch and a malfunctioning steering gear that gave so much resistance that it broke mounting bolts on the frame, and eventually broke the rag joint in the column sent it to the junkyard. When they ceased production in 1980, they were gaining ground on their biggest competitor, the Cherokee Chief ( the wagoner based one) .
I worked in a wrecking yard in Vegas the boss dragged in a 68 4x4 3/4ton international pickup with a dealer installed slide in camper it had a gasoline heater and gasoline stove that worked fine in 1993. That truck was an animal I camped in it on Fridays so I could watch the drag racing that was right over the fence of the yard good times.
This is a 1976, not a 1975 Scout II. More on that in a minute...... My great uncle drove these back in the 1970s and 1980s for the municipality he worked for (incidentally I work for the same municipality). He had a take home Scout II and he used to come by our house for lunch at times (this was before my dad passed and my mom was a stay-at-home mom). He also used to go home and my aunt would make him lunch. In 1984, they bought a house from a Jewish couple. The husband told my uncle at the closing, "Carmine, you always have to kiss (or rub, I forget which) the mezuzah on the way out for protection and good health". My uncle thanked the man and said he would. One day he came home for lunch, was in a rush and went out the door. He got bit by something on the way back to work, passed out, crossed four lanes of traffic and hit a tree in front of a school. When he woke up, he was in a hospital bed. He made the front page of the local paper. We went to visit him. As we're going into the room, my father jokingly says, "You made the paper". The first words out of his mouth? "Yea, I got the maloik (curse/bad luck in Italian). I forgot to rub the mezuzah......" LOL. I have a Jewish colleague and he laughs at the story when I retell it. He recovered and went back to work. As a ribbing to him for wrecking the truck, the supervising foreman (my uncle was also a foreman) left it in the yard with weeds growing through it until he retired in 1987. My uncle passed away in 2016, but we always used to laugh at that story. He would come over so I could work on his car and he would say, "After that, fahget about it, I never forgot to rub it on the way out.....". My uncle was a colorful man. Another time he started banging on the door of a starter and alternator business because the guy said, "Just bang on the door when you get here". My uncle was banging on the door indeed saying to my dad, "Where is this bird (character, sun of a gun, etc.)? Oooh! Does he know I'm out here?" As you can probably tell my uncle was Italian-American. He was a very funny man. Another time, he and my dad were tuning his 1980 LeSabre with a 301 Pontiac V8. My father said, "Ok, take off the spark plug wires one at a time and label them and I'll be right back. Pull them off gently". My father comes back and all of them are pulled off, they are all broken and my uncle doesn't remember which one goes to what cylinder. My father joked, him, "Good job, Gentle Ben. Now we have to go get another set of wires and I have to figure out which one is which (not too hard)." They of course got it running fine that afternooon. I digress and now back to our regularly scheduled program. LOL. Yes, it was a Chrysler A727 Torqueflite if it was an automatic transmission. The manual transmissions were Borg-Warner. The strike at International Harvester in 1979-1980 didn't help the Scout one bit. IHC had enough on their hands and decided as you stated to focus on heavy-duty equipment. Nah, I agree with others, those are "repackaged" hubs made for them probably by Warn. IHC wouldn't have made their own, as they sourced a lot much as "All Makes Combined" and "Almost A Car" (AMC) did. 1976, not a 1975 Scout II, with the VIN for the win: F006 for the basic IHC model series and body type, 2 for gasoline powered engine, F for 1976 model year, G for Fort Wayne, IN assembly, D for the assembly line reference, and the rest is the production sequence. The IHC Fort Wayne plant was located at 2701 S. Coliseum Blvd, Fort Wayne, IN 46803 and now houses an automotive components/trim fabricator and a driving school. Possible code 6787 Concord Blue exterior paint.
Among the Saturday Night alumni you mention, the Jane you speak about was none other than Jane Curtin. Love your junkyard crawls and your insightful and often witty commentary.
The locking hubs were made by Warn for IH. 4bbl carb was only available in 1979-80. The Scout 80 & 800 fulltop was available with NO bulkhead, it was called the "walk-thru" and was introduced July 1962.
I'm a Scout nut and lifelong owner. I watch this everyday,and have been waiting for a Scout or Traveller. I PDI'd these as an apprentice. My service mgr used to say a Scout would rot in the Sahara desert. You can virtually guarantee their presence in a scrap yard. Well done Steve, you barely took a breath while spewing ten minutes of correct information. Thank you.
It was a good presentation, however going by the VIN, this is a 1976 model year (F in the VIN is 1976, not 1975. This is an early 1976 built in mid-1975).
When I was in high school, I worked in a small town independent shop that was previously an IH dealer. We had lots of Scouts, Travelers, Travelalls and pickups in and out over the years. Rust, however, was the Scout II killer! Even in Midwest states that had mild winters and used minimal salt on the roads.
I LS swapped a '76 Traveller from Arizona, and it did not have any rust. The exhaust manifold bolts came off with a 3/8 ratchet. As a Michigan resident, It was a joy to work on.
I'll bet that thing was a beauty in its day. You can tell that color would have been sharp. I loved Internationals, trucks and the Scouts were unique and really cool. Great segments Steve.
Back in 1998 or we had a neighbor who was like the shovel guy from home alone. He was a hermit and you could barely see his house because it was over grown with brush and trees that had popped up all around it. You could barely make out the existence of a garage down the driveway, you could barely see the driveway at all lol. Anyways, the guy passed away and he was a hoarder. My other neighbor was a home flipper so he bought the property so of coarse me and the other neighbors son had to snoop around. low and behold what did we find in the garage but a mint international travelall that was completely rust free. It was a barn find before barn finds were a thing and 100 percent intact and original. We had no idea what it was and thought it was ugly. We were hoping for a chevelle or a cool Firebird or something, ya know. It had a four barrel on it which intrigued us at least. It was the 90s too so they were not desirable yet. I think it was scrapped or sold for nothing. If we only knew…
This brings back memories, as my late father worked for IH/Navistar from 1965 to 2002. He started in logistics in 1965 at the Chatham, Ontario plant, moving to Hamilton, Ontario (then Canadian head office) and subsequently to Chicago, IL at the corporate head office, working in IT. I was a kid in the 1970's and we had a steady rotation of Travelalls and Scout II company vehicles at home. They were tough as nails vehicles, but prone to rust after not too many Canadian winters. A Scout II is what I learned to drive on in the very early 1980's.
My dad bought a 1972 International Scout II brand new for my mom to drive. She LOVED it. It had the 345 ci engine, Power Steering Power Brakes, & Automatic Transmission. Whenever our church youth group would meet somewhere during the winter there were several girls who lived near me who wanted me to be the one to drive them home after the function because I drove my mom's 4 X 4 Scout II and felt I could safely get their daughters home. In the early 1990s my dad sold the Scout and sold it for about the same price he paid for it back in 1972.
Thats what mine has, it is very tough to start in cold weather, slower than molasses, builds boost like a dog, and is impossible to get parts for, but it will putt around my Scout at 25mpg @ 60 mph and is very reliable.
Those International V8's were built with the International core values. They were simple, reliable, smooth and easy to work on. Doubtful they were going to impress at the drag strip but if you needed something that would start in the worst conditions and hum like a sewing machine those V8's were great.
I had a 74 Scout to two wheel drive with a 258 Jeep straight-6 and a Weber conversion with the 90s Jeep aluminum Intake. It had a Pow-r- lock rear end and a granny gear 4 speed and front factory disc brakes. It was the coolest truck ever. It was a bronzish gold metallic color with the vinyl buckets up front and the Grandma's couch interior in the rear
Thanks for sharing some of the history of these great trucks. My family loves our 1977 Scout, especially when we take the top off for the warmer months.
A guy I was stationed with in the USAF had a Scout. 4 of us removed the top once, we were young and strong. The top was very heavy and was very difficult to get the bolts to line up when we put the top back on.
When I was a kid our neighbor Mr Scott had one of these for his RFD mail route, right and left hand controls. Mr Scott also had a German Sheppard named BJ. Mr Scott would hunker down and hide while BJ was sitting in the opposite seat with paws on the other steering wheel with his tongue out loving every second of it. Anyone coming the opposite direction would swear they'd just seen a German Sheppard driving a red International scout.
When was a kid in the middle 80’s one of the dads owned an early ‘70s Scout that had already been rebuilt and repainted a few times due to MN rust. They rusted with gusto.
I own a fully restored 1978 scout ll I also own a 1964 Scout 80 and also a 1967 scout 800 thanks for doing this video I’ve been waiting for it as every video you do their great thanks again Steve
Owned '69 Scout 304 V8, 4 speed with 4:10 gears. 8 mpg town, maybe 10 on the highway. Don't regret selling it. Wishing I had a Scout II with a inline 6. Much more civilized.
There was a guy in my neighbourhood drove one of these and it was all primer….he was a mountain man looking guy but what a mechanic….he’s long gone and so is the scout but I’ve always loved these things and think of him when I see one
I had a 71 with straight 6 and 4 speed. Loved the humming sound it made around 55 to 60. Was a better choice than the V8's that had issues the 6 never had. Used it to pull a small fishing boat. Good times
My buddy had a beautifully restored 72 scout with a 4 speed manual. It's alot of fun to drive. We always joke that scouts would rot sitting on the dealers lot 🤣
These rigs had a great heart and soul. My father had a '66 and my first new vehicle was a '77 SSII that I purchased while in the military in Portland, Oregon. Mine had a 345 cu. in. Loved the soft top and plastic door inserts.
We Love our Scouts!!!! Unfortunately so does rust... It really was the killer of both the 800's and Scout II. I always wanted a Super Scout as a kid. Maybe it's time... :)
A buddy of mine had one with the 345 2bbl. I don't recall it ever getting stuck or needing a pull out rescue. I do recall it running out of gas several times though 😃
I miss my '73. Manual steering. manual brakes and 4 speed. First vehicle I ever learned how to operate all 3 pedals at the same time in the winter! And yes, the roof does come off, and quite a pain in the asbestos!
I had a ‘74 Scout with the 345 and Torqueflite combo. Total beast of a truck. Best plow truck I ever had except for the rust. Looked just about the same as this when I finally had to gave up on it. Still ran and plowed perfectly but a little drafty without the tailgate and floor from the seats back.
My dad had a Scout as a service vehicle at his gas station in Queens, NY ..... the Scout was sitting in the parking lot with 4 flat tires and the snowplow on the ground. Came into work one morning and it was gone ........... never to be seen again.
I had a 1962 International Scout four-wheel drive and it also had the PTO unit the original PTO unit and it had like half an engine at one time and I thought it was a cool vehicle man it ran fantastic great job have a great day
Man I always loved those! I remember as a teenager building a 1/24 scale model of that truck, I used to see many of them on the road back then. Is sad to see that beauty on the junkyard!
I remember as a kid seeing scout II's a couple years old with the fenders rotting off. I realize Wisconsin is a harsh climate, but jeez. A neighbor was a guy that was an R&D guy for IH in Chicago before he retired to our Wisconsin winter wonderland. He was a really cool guy and had several very nice IH vehicles that were test vehicles and such that the public wasn't supposed to have. He had them all...travelall's, scouts...but his prized binder was a bright yellow scout II with some enormous engine and experimental fuel injection and that thing was loaded with options. He drove it regularly in the summers of the early 90's when it was fairly old already, but it was like showroom new. He passed away and I never saw it again. I often think of them unique and rare vehicles and wonder their fate...
Those 304,s 345,s and 394 engines , you timed those off number 8 cylinder when you used your timing light. I worked on a few of those years ago. I was amazed by the engines and the drivetrain. There 6 cyl engines which was a 252 was a thick heavy engine
Check out how the flat windshield and cowl style was replicated in larger form by Ted Ornas in the 1980-up medium duty IH S-Series cab. They are very similar.
Hi Steve, good video, your information is correct. The Chevrolet Blazer/GMC Jimmy, second generation (1978 and up) Ford Bronco and the Dodge Ramcharger/Plymouth Trailblazer where 100% full-size SUVs with two doors and a short wheel base. They had the same hip and shoulder room as a full-size pickup, and used the same body/chassis as a full-size 4x4 1/2 ton pickup chopped off. The first generation Ford Bronco (1966-1977) International Scout 1 and 2, and the first generation Jeep Cherokee (1974-1983) where not 100% full size, they where a mid-size SUV, a bit narrower and lighter than a full-size, but do not get these confused with compact SUVs I.e. Ford Bronco 2 and Chevrolet S-10 Blazer/GMC S-15 Jimmy. If you want my opinion, the first generation Ford Bronco was targeted towards the International Scout 1. For your information, the Ford Motor Company tried to buy Jeep on two separate occasions before the first Bronco. Please reply. Dave...
My friend had a 1974 Travelall which is like a 4 door Scout . Mechanical lever operating rear locker and a 401. It was a tank. Go through anything. On the road the thing handled like crap. Cool looking truck
Steve I heard that Dodge made an agreement with International to drop their large trucks, in exchange for dropping their small trucks. Perhaps you could verify this for a future junkyard crawl.
I owned a 72, and a 78, the 72 did not have front disc brakes it had drum brakes, the 78 did have front disc brakes. Both were 345 automatics. The engines you could not kill them, but the cheap Chrysler transmissions were very weak, and I had to replace both of them. IMO the scout was the best 4x4 built in the US at that time. I wish they still made them, I would be driving one.
My buddy started to collect these in the late 90's. I even have a video of his 1977 Traveler on my channel. He had a total of 8 (I think) but now he has been selling them off. Hard and expensive to collect cars in the Northeast with all the problems of rust !
When I was a grade school kid in the 1960's one of the local drug store chains switched from using old Jeepsters for home delivery to the then new International Scouts which had just come out at the time. since one of the stores was just a block away from our house at the time i got to see it on a regular basis. They were four cylinder two heel drive versions with the single cab, They continued to use them well into the 1970's when I think they got too rusty to pass the states truck inspection.
I have an uncle who loves anything international. He has a few of those and a few of the pickups resting in the brush behind his house. The rust is of course what decided their fate.
The first time I went off roading was in a Scout. My friends Father bought one brand new in 1978, and my friend some how got the keys to it. We took it for some light off roading in an area we road dirt bikes all the time.
Great video this morning. I do believe the "IH" locking hubs (including the 'Lock-O-Matic') were manufactured by Warn as they are identical to the non-IH versions.
Yup, IHC likely would have gone with "repackaged" items from the likes of Warn with their name on it. Much like Sears would do with a vendor. Same product, but with "Sears" or "Craftsman" on it. My 1979 Trans Am's shifter says "Hurst" on the side of it. For a time, those shifters did not say Hurst and GM realized that their policy of not allowing vendor names to be displayed might hurt them. Since they were using the product anyway, they might as well say it.
Thanks Steve! Wanted one of them so bad as a kid, especially a Super Scout. My neighbor had one but sold it and got a Travelall (big family). A guy I was in the service with had one with around 300,000 miles-the engines were tough, as you said.
Travelall... That's a model name I haven't heard in years! I recall my parents thought about buying a slightly used Travelall (I don't recall the year of vehicle), in the Spring of 1975. But they decided to buy a slightly used 1974 Suburban instead.😁
@@willhorting5317 Actually, my same neighbor ended up with a big Suburban after the Travelall got totaled, as I recall. He liked the Suburban, but I think he preferred the Travelall.
the scout 2 was available with several transmissions. A 3speed manual, a 3 speed automatic, and 2 different 4 speeds. A close ratio for towing or a wide ratio with a really low 1st gear for better off road manners. The IH pickup had even more diversity in the trans department. Including the half ton trucks you could have a 3 speed on the floor or the column. Then your choice of 2 4 speed transmissions both wide and close ratio as well as 2 5 speed transmissions. one had over drive 5th the other was a direct drive 5th. The engine blocks from IH had a great deal of nickel making them an incredibly durable engine. The heavy weight of the rotating mass of these engines limited max hp and torque well under 5000 rpm. ive personally owned multiples of both original and scout 2s as well as a truck and a 3/4 ton travelall that regretfully i sold.
My dad bought a ‘78 Scout II brand new. By 1981, he was cutting out body rust and patching in new sheet metal. He eventually sold it in 1998. We would see it driving around from time-to-time and it eventually disappeared around 2001-02. Never saw it again.
We had a 1974 Duster like that. We bought it in 1983, sold it in 1985 and I would see it for a few summers when the new owner came back from college. After that, it was gone. I'm sure it's long junked by now. We sold our 1974 Charger to my grandparents' neighbor in the spring of 1979 during the gas crisis. The first question the guy asked, "What kind of mileage do you get?" It was a 318 V8, so not a powerful engine. He had it several years and kept it in the same excellent condition that my parents did.
In the early 80's my father in law took an scout 800 chasie from the 60's. Body rusted out. Grafted a 75 Datsun pickup body on it. Took the badges and riveted them together to spell scotsun. He was always thinking out of the box.He had a 4x4 mini truck at the same time the imports were bringing their's out. For alot less.
My dad loved IH vehicles. We had multiple Scouts and pickups when I grew up. Loved our 392 equipped pickups. I drove a Scout in high school that had a 266 V8 with 4 speed with extra deep granny gear. Top end was not much over 50.
Growing up as a kid in Wyoming, International was often seen. The neighbor across the street was a house painter by trade and used exclusively International and had a Scout II and was the exact color. Thanks for the memories Steve, you always remind me of my early years.
A construction company that I worked for in the '80s, had a 1974 IH 3/4 ton 4x4 pickup that was my "shop truck" (I "ran" the warehouse...by default, as I was the ONLY warehouse person). I used the pickup to run to the parts houses, and also to deliver parts to any construction jobs we had around town. I recall that pickup was a V8 (don't recall the displacement); a 4spd; very low gearing.... very high RPMs just to drive 60mph!; and someone had built a homemade metal flatbed for it.😁
I like International trucks and have always wanted a pickup. Another channel has a 1980 Scout II with a Nissan turbo diesel motor, that's got to be fairly rare. Great stuff Steve!
One of my buddies had an early Scout with the removable top. Bought used in the late sixties and already rusting. The 4 cyl "Comanche" with the 3 speed manual had decent power. Was a lot of fun on the trails.
In the early 70's I assisted a guy fix some wiring issues in a Scout I. It must have been rewired prior to me seeing it (I hope). The entire truck was wired in dark green wire with random 4-6 fuse blocks scattered all over the truck. It took days to straighten out. Love the truck.
3:45 my first car a 74 mercury comet with a 302. the hood lach broke and the hood openend while i was driving. tied it down with roap, lucky we werent killed
My first vehicle was a 1977 scout ll with a 304. Mine was a 2 wheel drive but it was a hoss. I bought it myself as a kid and the dang thing was almost unkillable. The drivetrain was like they put a bunch of different parts from other manufacturers in a bag and shook it up and there you have it.
Hey Steve, where's LocJaw? It's probably too cold for him to outside all the time. Probably sitting next to a nice, warm fireplace. Perfect weather for a reindeer though. Awesome video!
I remember back in the 70s, these were popular around my home town. There was a school bus company, who also sold light duty IH trucks. So they were pretty common here in Northeast Pa. They were very prone to rust. My neighbor, back then, was a body man. He used to say they were rusting from the minute they were built.
One of my dad's co-workers had a tan coloured Scout II like that, daily driven but ''almost' as rusty as that junk yard example. Dad was a bit uncomfortable with it initially but the guy got a real kick when I assembled and gifted him a 1/25 scale model of his truck including replication all of the rust and dents.
The scout I’s had two generations the 80, and 800.
In my 1976 Scout II Traveler, I had a Dana 44 rear axle with limited slip. - it was a 4x2 with leaf springs at all four corners and a solid steel tube front axle. Typically the 4x4 models came with the 345 4bbl, and the 4x2’s were equipped like mine with the 304 2bbl Comanche 8 - the ignition & distributor were Prestolite, the transmission was the 727 TorqueFlite, Alternator was delco, power steering pump was Saginaw. The Traveller removable top was fiberglass, but was still a bear to remove. The A/C was a York style compressor, and the evaporator was a plastic under dash aftermarket style ac, separate from the heat/vent/defrost in the dash. A combination of an impossible to source curved rear glass on the hatch and a malfunctioning steering gear that gave so much resistance that it broke mounting bolts on the frame, and eventually broke the rag joint in the column sent it to the junkyard. When they ceased production in 1980, they were gaining ground on their biggest competitor, the Cherokee Chief ( the wagoner based one) .
I worked in a wrecking yard in Vegas the boss dragged in a 68 4x4 3/4ton international pickup with a dealer installed slide in camper it had a gasoline heater and gasoline stove that worked fine in 1993. That truck was an animal I camped in it on Fridays so I could watch the drag racing that was right over the fence of the yard good times.
That motor is a 345! You see it on the length on the bypass hose between the thermostat housing and the water pump.
This is a 1976, not a 1975 Scout II. More on that in a minute......
My great uncle drove these back in the 1970s and 1980s for the municipality he worked for (incidentally I work for the same municipality). He had a take home Scout II and he used to come by our house for lunch at times (this was before my dad passed and my mom was a stay-at-home mom). He also used to go home and my aunt would make him lunch. In 1984, they bought a house from a Jewish couple. The husband told my uncle at the closing, "Carmine, you always have to kiss (or rub, I forget which) the mezuzah on the way out for protection and good health". My uncle thanked the man and said he would.
One day he came home for lunch, was in a rush and went out the door. He got bit by something on the way back to work, passed out, crossed four lanes of traffic and hit a tree in front of a school. When he woke up, he was in a hospital bed. He made the front page of the local paper. We went to visit him. As we're going into the room, my father jokingly says, "You made the paper". The first words out of his mouth? "Yea, I got the maloik (curse/bad luck in Italian). I forgot to rub the mezuzah......" LOL. I have a Jewish colleague and he laughs at the story when I retell it. He recovered and went back to work. As a ribbing to him for wrecking the truck, the supervising foreman (my uncle was also a foreman) left it in the yard with weeds growing through it until he retired in 1987. My uncle passed away in 2016, but we always used to laugh at that story. He would come over so I could work on his car and he would say, "After that, fahget about it, I never forgot to rub it on the way out.....". My uncle was a colorful man. Another time he started banging on the door of a starter and alternator business because the guy said, "Just bang on the door when you get here". My uncle was banging on the door indeed saying to my dad, "Where is this bird (character, sun of a gun, etc.)? Oooh! Does he know I'm out here?" As you can probably tell my uncle was Italian-American. He was a very funny man.
Another time, he and my dad were tuning his 1980 LeSabre with a 301 Pontiac V8. My father said, "Ok, take off the spark plug wires one at a time and label them and I'll be right back. Pull them off gently". My father comes back and all of them are pulled off, they are all broken and my uncle doesn't remember which one goes to what cylinder. My father joked, him, "Good job, Gentle Ben. Now we have to go get another set of wires and I have to figure out which one is which (not too hard)." They of course got it running fine that afternooon.
I digress and now back to our regularly scheduled program. LOL. Yes, it was a Chrysler A727 Torqueflite if it was an automatic transmission. The manual transmissions were Borg-Warner. The strike at International Harvester in 1979-1980 didn't help the Scout one bit. IHC had enough on their hands and decided as you stated to focus on heavy-duty equipment. Nah, I agree with others, those are "repackaged" hubs made for them probably by Warn. IHC wouldn't have made their own, as they sourced a lot much as "All Makes Combined" and "Almost A Car" (AMC) did.
1976, not a 1975 Scout II, with the VIN for the win: F006 for the basic IHC model series and body type, 2 for gasoline powered engine, F for 1976 model year, G for Fort Wayne, IN assembly, D for the assembly line reference, and the rest is the production sequence. The IHC Fort Wayne plant was located at 2701 S. Coliseum Blvd, Fort Wayne, IN 46803 and now houses an automotive components/trim fabricator and a driving school. Possible code 6787 Concord Blue exterior paint.
And, the maple-leaf CMVSS marking on the VIN plate also indicates that this was originally sold in Canada.
@@bikeaddictbp Correct, but assembled in Fort Wayne, IN. A "C" in place of the 2nd "F" would indicate Chatham, Ontario Canada assembly.
@@googleusergp Yep. By the time this was built, the US-Canada auto pact was in place, which simplified cross-border auto manufacturing and sales.
@@bikeaddictbp Yup, I had a 1979 Cutlass Supreme assembled in St. Therese. Quebec Canada that had a similar maple leaf decal.
Among the Saturday Night alumni you mention, the Jane you speak about was none other than Jane Curtin. Love your junkyard crawls and your insightful and often witty commentary.
Jane Curtin. Love the old Scouts.
It sounded like Steve could only remember "Jane, you ignorant slut," but wasn't going to say that...😆
A neighbor of ours swore by their Travel -All(s) in the 60's and 70's! Oh yeah it's Jane Curtain from SNL. I'll tell her you said hiya! :)
And lets not forger Loraine Newman! Thanks for the "Curtain call"....-Steve Magnante
Back when I was just out of high school in the late 70’s I lusted after the Scout SSII with the soft top and doors like a Jeep .
I've always like the Scouts. Glad to learn more about them.
We're all pulling for you Steve. Hope to see you back in the Junkyard soon
Now I miss my old Scout! Great video Steve!
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The locking hubs were made by Warn for IH. 4bbl carb was only available in 1979-80. The Scout 80 & 800 fulltop was available with NO bulkhead, it was called the "walk-thru" and was introduced July 1962.
I'm a Scout nut and lifelong owner. I watch this everyday,and have been waiting for a Scout or Traveller. I PDI'd these as an apprentice. My service mgr used to say a Scout would rot in the Sahara desert. You can virtually guarantee their presence in a scrap yard. Well done Steve, you barely took a breath while spewing ten minutes of correct information. Thank you.
It was a good presentation, however going by the VIN, this is a 1976 model year (F in the VIN is 1976, not 1975. This is an early 1976 built in mid-1975).
When I was in high school, I worked in a small town independent shop that was previously an IH dealer. We had lots of Scouts, Travelers, Travelalls and pickups in and out over the years. Rust, however, was the Scout II killer! Even in Midwest states that had mild winters and used minimal salt on the roads.
I LS swapped a '76 Traveller from Arizona, and it did not have any rust. The exhaust manifold bolts came off with a 3/8 ratchet. As a Michigan resident, It was a joy to work on.
I'll bet that thing was a beauty in its day. You can tell that color would have been sharp. I loved Internationals, trucks and the Scouts were unique and really cool. Great segments Steve.
well let's see....a bit of touch up paint here and there, maybe some new tires...
I want to say that's code 6787 Concord Blue exterior paint.
@@googleusergp hey do u have some? Paint er up!😆
@@resetsetmefree478 I'm sure something can be done with the spray paint aisle at Home Depot or Lowes. LOL.
Friend had a 73 that was baby blue with a white top like this one. Incredible ride
Back in 1998 or we had a neighbor who was like the shovel guy from home alone. He was a hermit and you could barely see his house because it was over grown with brush and trees that had popped up all around it. You could barely make out the existence of a garage down the driveway, you could barely see the driveway at all lol. Anyways, the guy passed away and he was a hoarder. My other neighbor was a home flipper so he bought the property so of coarse me and the other neighbors son had to snoop around. low and behold what did we find in the garage but a mint international travelall that was completely rust free. It was a barn find before barn finds were a thing and 100 percent intact and original. We had no idea what it was and thought it was ugly. We were hoping for a chevelle or a cool Firebird or something, ya know. It had a four barrel on it which intrigued us at least. It was the 90s too so they were not desirable yet. I think it was scrapped or sold for nothing. If we only knew…
This brings back memories, as my late father worked for IH/Navistar from 1965 to 2002. He started in logistics in 1965 at the Chatham, Ontario plant, moving to Hamilton, Ontario (then Canadian head office) and subsequently to Chicago, IL at the corporate head office, working in IT. I was a kid in the 1970's and we had a steady rotation of Travelalls and Scout II company vehicles at home. They were tough as nails vehicles, but prone to rust after not too many Canadian winters. A Scout II is what I learned to drive on in the very early 1980's.
Yarder engineer on a logging job I worked on back in 99 had a scout 2 that thing would climb ice that was steep like you wouldn't believe
Friend of mine had a '75 with 304 V8...tremendous torque tough as nails and cool as could be! Rusted out like you wouldn't believe
My first car (1991) was a 1961 IH Scour 80 4x4, came without the 80hp 4cyl but had a 1955 Buick 322 V8 in it… Beast and I loved it!
My dad bought a 1972 International Scout II brand new for my mom to drive. She LOVED it. It had the 345 ci engine, Power Steering Power Brakes, & Automatic Transmission.
Whenever our church youth group would meet somewhere during the winter there were several girls who lived near me who wanted me to be the one to drive them home after the function because I drove my mom's 4 X 4 Scout II and felt I could safely get their daughters home. In the early 1990s my dad sold the Scout and sold it for about the same price he paid for it back in 1972.
“Junkyard miracle” comic gold! 😂. Truly enjoy watching these every day - thank you! ~ Chuck
Glad you like them!
I'm so glad you did a scout 2
Also fun fact: the later scouts came with an optional diesel power plant from nissan
Thats what mine has, it is very tough to start in cold weather, slower than molasses, builds boost like a dog, and is impossible to get parts for, but it will putt around my Scout at 25mpg @ 60 mph and is very reliable.
@@kenny3217 In Europe and Australia the Nissan SD33 is pretty common.
Yes, SD33 and then then the SD33 in 1979-1980. Both Nissan sourced.
@@googleusergp no, the SD33 and SD33T. I had both in Nissan Patrols.
@@WieDrDerJonge Yup, I made a typo. Just fixed it.
Those International V8's were built with the International core values. They were simple, reliable, smooth and easy to work on. Doubtful they were going to impress at the drag strip but if you needed something that would start in the worst conditions and hum like a sewing machine those V8's were great.
I'm glad you skipped the "coming attractions" blurb at the beginning of the video. Keep it up.
(Jane Curtin)
july 1975 i was at the nights of pythias sleepaway camp in glen spay ny. i can remember alot about that month. for another post
I had a 74 Scout to two wheel drive with a 258 Jeep straight-6 and a Weber conversion with the 90s Jeep aluminum Intake. It had a Pow-r- lock rear end and a granny gear 4 speed and front factory disc brakes. It was the coolest truck ever. It was a bronzish gold metallic color with the vinyl buckets up front and the Grandma's couch interior in the rear
Thanks for sharing some of the history of these great trucks. My family loves our 1977 Scout, especially when we take the top off for the warmer months.
A guy I was stationed with in the USAF had a Scout. 4 of us removed the top once, we were young and strong. The top was very heavy and was very difficult to get the bolts to line up when we put the top back on.
When I was a kid our neighbor Mr Scott had one of these for his RFD mail route, right and left hand controls. Mr Scott also had a German Sheppard named BJ. Mr Scott would hunker down and hide while BJ was sitting in the opposite seat with paws on the other steering wheel with his tongue out loving every second of it. Anyone coming the opposite direction would swear they'd just seen a German Sheppard driving a red International scout.
When was a kid in the middle 80’s one of the dads owned an early ‘70s Scout that had already been rebuilt and repainted a few times due to MN rust. They rusted with gusto.
I own a fully restored 1978 scout ll I also own a 1964 Scout 80 and also a 1967 scout 800 thanks for doing this video I’ve been waiting for it as every video you do their great thanks again Steve
Right on
After an hour of playing Snowrunner, my Scout usually looks like this too.
Curtin. 😂. If you ever wondered, your obscure references are not lost on some of us. Sargent Stedenko. Thanks for another great video!
Owned '69 Scout 304 V8, 4 speed with 4:10 gears. 8 mpg town, maybe 10 on the highway. Don't regret selling it. Wishing I had a Scout II with a inline 6. Much more civilized.
Thank you, Ted Ornas
There was a guy in my neighbourhood drove one of these and it was all primer….he was a mountain man looking guy but what a mechanic….he’s long gone and so is the scout but I’ve always loved these things and think of him when I see one
My first truck was an 1971 International Travel All. Great Truck
I had a 71 with straight 6 and 4 speed. Loved the humming sound it made around 55 to 60. Was a better choice than the V8's that had issues the 6 never had. Used it to pull a small fishing boat. Good times
Do you remember the size of the engine? I didn't know they came with 6's.
My buddy had a beautifully restored 72 scout with a 4 speed manual. It's alot of fun to drive.
We always joke that scouts would rot sitting on the dealers lot 🤣
7:29,,,, No No No,,, that instrument panel is now Petrified Wood!
These rigs had a great heart and soul. My father had a '66 and my first new vehicle was a '77 SSII that I purchased while in the military in Portland, Oregon. Mine had a 345 cu. in. Loved the soft top and plastic door inserts.
We Love our Scouts!!!! Unfortunately so does rust... It really was the killer of both the 800's and Scout II. I always wanted a Super Scout as a kid. Maybe it's time... :)
A buddy of mine had one with the 345 2bbl. I don't recall it ever getting stuck or needing a pull out rescue. I do recall it running out of gas several times though 😃
First time I ever see a 4x4 front axle hub off the vehicle and explained thank you very much
Glad you liked it!
We had a 1966 Scout when I was a kid. Dad bought it in 1976
Tops on all the Scouts, Broncos, and Blazers are, of course, meant to be removed if so desired... it's a handful of bolts and takes ten minutes.
Drove a scout when I was in the army very spartan good for off road
I miss my '73. Manual steering. manual brakes and 4 speed. First vehicle I ever learned how to operate all 3 pedals at the same time in the winter! And yes, the roof does come off, and quite a pain in the asbestos!
Look at the bonds on the rear quarter wow
I had a ‘74 Scout with the 345 and Torqueflite combo. Total beast of a truck. Best plow truck I ever had except for the rust. Looked just about the same as this when I finally had to gave up on it. Still ran and plowed perfectly but a little drafty without the tailgate and floor from the seats back.
@@Barry101er in the ‘80’s. Replaced with full size Jimmy and then Suburban. Nowhere near as good and way less maneuverable.
Never really thought about Scout being the OG SUV.
Still working the algorithm Steve 👍
The Scout looks nicer than a Blazer or Bronco to me I do like them but the Scout has cool styling.
Holly cow I had friend in High School who had one. And it was a rust bucket. He did get it all fixed up. Suprised that one still exist.
My dad had a Scout as a service vehicle at his gas station in Queens, NY ..... the Scout was sitting in the parking lot with 4 flat tires and the snowplow on the ground. Came into work one morning and it was gone ........... never to be seen again.
Where was it in Queens?
Probably went to south america for the cartels. They put it on a ship and like you said, never seen again. Around here anyway....
I had a 1962 International Scout four-wheel drive and it also had the PTO unit the original PTO unit and it had like half an engine at one time and I thought it was a cool vehicle man it ran fantastic great job have a great day
My 6-7th grade art teacher had,(new at the time) 1973 RHD scout 2 in a 4 speed model! Cool as hell!
A song comes to mind.
" Rudolph the beheaded reindeer " 🎼🎵🎵🎼
Man I always loved those! I remember as a teenager building a 1/24 scale model of that truck, I used to see many of them on the road back then. Is sad to see that beauty on the junkyard!
I remember as a kid seeing scout II's a couple years old with the fenders rotting off. I realize Wisconsin is a harsh climate, but jeez.
A neighbor was a guy that was an R&D guy for IH in Chicago before he retired to our Wisconsin winter wonderland. He was a really cool guy and had several very nice IH vehicles that were test vehicles and such that the public wasn't supposed to have. He had them all...travelall's, scouts...but his prized binder was a bright yellow scout II with some enormous engine and experimental fuel injection and that thing was loaded with options. He drove it regularly in the summers of the early 90's when it was fairly old already, but it was like showroom new. He passed away and I never saw it again. I often think of them unique and rare vehicles and wonder their fate...
Always liked the Scouts.
Those 304,s 345,s and 394 engines , you timed those off number 8 cylinder when you used your timing light. I worked on a few of those years ago. I was amazed by the engines and the drivetrain. There 6 cyl engines which was a 252 was a thick heavy engine
"THANK YOU STEVE "from the word of two little boys in cedar Rapids iowa....
Bernardston Mass is now covered under a foot of wet snow
I'll bet Steve is still there somewhere
Some of the later scout 2 did have Diesel engines in them .
@@redneck5356 yup, I believe they were Nissan inline 6 cylinders
@@NDC1115 a place I used to get pizza from had one with a Diesel engine. Never seen under the hood. Wish I had now
@@redneck5356 pretty rare then, hens teeth now I'll bet
Check out how the flat windshield and cowl style was replicated in larger form by Ted Ornas in the 1980-up medium duty IH S-Series cab. They are very similar.
Hi Steve, good video, your information is correct. The Chevrolet Blazer/GMC Jimmy, second generation (1978 and up) Ford Bronco and the Dodge Ramcharger/Plymouth Trailblazer where 100% full-size SUVs with two doors and a short wheel base. They had the same hip and shoulder room as a full-size pickup, and used the same body/chassis as a full-size 4x4 1/2 ton pickup chopped off. The first generation Ford Bronco (1966-1977) International Scout 1 and 2, and the first generation Jeep Cherokee (1974-1983) where not 100% full size, they where a mid-size SUV, a bit narrower and lighter than a full-size, but do not get these confused with compact SUVs I.e. Ford Bronco 2 and Chevrolet S-10 Blazer/GMC S-15 Jimmy. If you want my opinion, the first generation Ford Bronco was targeted towards the International Scout 1. For your information, the Ford Motor Company tried to buy Jeep on two separate occasions before the first Bronco. Please reply. Dave...
My friend had a 1974 Travelall which is like a 4 door Scout . Mechanical lever operating rear locker and a 401. It was a tank. Go through anything. On the road the thing handled like crap. Cool looking truck
Steve
I heard that Dodge made an agreement with International to drop their large trucks,
in exchange for dropping their small trucks. Perhaps you could verify this for a future junkyard crawl.
I owned a 72, and a 78, the 72 did not have front disc brakes it had drum brakes, the 78 did have front disc brakes. Both were 345 automatics. The engines you could not kill them, but the cheap Chrysler transmissions were very weak, and I had to replace both of them. IMO the scout was the best 4x4 built in the US at that time. I wish they still made them, I would be driving one.
My buddy started to collect these in the late 90's. I even have a video of his 1977 Traveler on my channel. He had a total of 8 (I think) but now he has been selling them off. Hard and expensive to collect cars in the Northeast with all the problems of rust !
When I was a grade school kid in the 1960's one of the local drug store chains switched from using old Jeepsters for home delivery to the then new International Scouts which had just come out at the time. since one of the stores was just a block away from our house at the time i got to see it on a regular basis. They were four cylinder two heel drive versions with the single cab, They continued to use them well into the 1970's when I think they got too rusty to pass the states truck inspection.
The scouts bring a ton of cash now. Cool old trucks. Took the rear ends and not the lockouts? Luxury 4x4 of the day. 🇺🇸
I have an uncle who loves anything international. He has a few of those and a few of the pickups resting in the brush behind his house. The rust is of course what decided their fate.
The first time I went off roading was in a Scout. My friends Father bought one brand new in 1978, and my friend some how got the keys to it. We took it for some light off roading in an area we road dirt bikes all the time.
Great video this morning. I do believe the "IH" locking hubs (including the 'Lock-O-Matic') were manufactured by Warn as they are identical to the non-IH versions.
Yup, IHC likely would have gone with "repackaged" items from the likes of Warn with their name on it. Much like Sears would do with a vendor. Same product, but with "Sears" or "Craftsman" on it. My 1979 Trans Am's shifter says "Hurst" on the side of it. For a time, those shifters did not say Hurst and GM realized that their policy of not allowing vendor names to be displayed might hurt them. Since they were using the product anyway, they might as well say it.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks Steve! Wanted one of them so bad as a kid, especially a Super Scout. My neighbor had one but sold it and got a Travelall (big family). A guy I was in the service with had one with around 300,000 miles-the engines were tough, as you said.
Travelall... That's a model name I haven't heard in years!
I recall my parents thought about buying a slightly used Travelall (I don't recall the year of vehicle), in the Spring of 1975.
But they decided to buy a slightly used 1974 Suburban instead.😁
@@willhorting5317 Actually, my same neighbor ended up with a big Suburban after the Travelall got totaled, as I recall. He liked the Suburban, but I think he preferred the Travelall.
@@zzzoo2 👍
They had "Industrial" versions of the 304 also. Lower reving engines that run ALL day long....Super dependable and very hard to kill.
the scout 2 was available with several transmissions. A 3speed manual, a 3 speed automatic, and 2 different 4 speeds. A close ratio for towing or a wide ratio with a really low 1st gear for better off road manners.
The IH pickup had even more diversity in the trans department. Including the half ton trucks you could have a 3 speed on the floor or the column. Then your choice of 2 4 speed transmissions both wide and close ratio as well as 2 5 speed transmissions. one had over drive 5th the other was a direct drive 5th. The engine blocks from IH had a great deal of nickel making them an incredibly durable engine. The heavy weight of the rotating mass of these engines limited max hp and torque well under 5000 rpm.
ive personally owned multiples of both original and scout 2s as well as a truck and a 3/4 ton travelall that regretfully i sold.
My dad bought a ‘78 Scout II brand new. By 1981, he was cutting out body rust and patching in new sheet metal. He eventually sold it in 1998. We would see it driving around from time-to-time and it eventually disappeared around 2001-02. Never saw it again.
We had a 1974 Duster like that. We bought it in 1983, sold it in 1985 and I would see it for a few summers when the new owner came back from college. After that, it was gone. I'm sure it's long junked by now. We sold our 1974 Charger to my grandparents' neighbor in the spring of 1979 during the gas crisis. The first question the guy asked, "What kind of mileage do you get?" It was a 318 V8, so not a powerful engine. He had it several years and kept it in the same excellent condition that my parents did.
Wow that would be a major project shame to see it rotting away like that
In the early 80's my father in law took an scout 800 chasie from the 60's. Body rusted out. Grafted a 75 Datsun pickup body on it. Took the badges and riveted them together to spell scotsun. He was always thinking out of the box.He had a 4x4 mini truck at the same time the imports were bringing their's out. For alot less.
My dad loved IH vehicles. We had multiple Scouts and pickups when I grew up. Loved our 392 equipped pickups. I drove a Scout in high school that had a 266 V8 with 4 speed with extra deep granny gear. Top end was not much over 50.
Growing up as a kid in Wyoming, International was often seen. The neighbor across the street was a house painter by trade and used exclusively International and had a Scout II and was the exact color. Thanks for the memories Steve, you always remind me of my early years.
Very cool!
Myself, I think if you find an International in a junkyard & you don't need a broom & dust-pan to get it, it's a great find & worth restoring.
Love my corn binders!
A construction company that I worked for in the '80s, had a 1974 IH 3/4 ton 4x4 pickup that was my "shop truck" (I "ran" the warehouse...by default, as I was the ONLY warehouse person). I used the pickup to run to the parts houses, and also to deliver parts to any construction jobs we had around town.
I recall that pickup was a V8 (don't recall the displacement); a 4spd; very low gearing.... very high RPMs just to drive 60mph!; and someone had built a homemade metal flatbed for it.😁
That was Jane Curtin, Steve.
I like International trucks and have always wanted a pickup. Another channel has a 1980 Scout II with a Nissan turbo diesel motor, that's got to be fairly rare. Great stuff Steve!
Yes, the Nissan sourced SD33-T diesel IHC was only offered from 1979-1980.
Derek of Visegrip Garage has the diesel Scout II
One of my buddies had an early Scout with the removable top. Bought used in the late sixties and already rusting. The 4 cyl "Comanche" with the 3 speed manual had decent power. Was a lot of fun on the trails.
I live in Southwest Iowa so I think I'm a time zone behind you but... the uploads 1st thing in the morning for me are a highlight of my day...
Morning!
Thank you Steve Get well soon
6:16 Those sleigh bells again
In the early 70's I assisted a guy fix some wiring issues in a Scout I. It must have been rewired prior to me seeing it (I hope). The entire truck was wired in dark green wire with random 4-6 fuse blocks scattered all over the truck. It took days to straighten out. Love the truck.
Nope. Thats factory. Its a running joke with scout guys that when there is a wiring problem, its the green wire...
3:45 my first car a 74 mercury comet with a 302. the hood lach broke and the hood openend while i was driving. tied it down with roap, lucky we werent killed
My first vehicle was a 1977 scout ll with a 304. Mine was a 2 wheel drive but it was a hoss. I bought it myself as a kid and the dang thing was almost unkillable. The drivetrain was like they put a bunch of different parts from other manufacturers in a bag and shook it up and there you have it.
Another good video! Happy Holidays, Steve!
Now that’s a quote, “Call the pope, it’s a junkyard miracle!” Lol!
Hey Steve, where's LocJaw? It's probably too cold for him to outside all the time. Probably sitting next to a nice, warm fireplace. Perfect weather for a reindeer though.
Awesome video!
It's sad to see that Scout in the junkyard. Looks like it could have been saved years ago.
Front disk rotors were one piece with the hub……at least in ‘79
I remember back in the 70s, these were popular around my home town. There was a school bus company, who also sold light duty IH trucks. So they were pretty common here in Northeast Pa. They were very prone to rust. My neighbor, back then, was a body man. He used to say they were rusting from the minute they were built.
SNL, Jane Curtin & Laraine Newman too😀
One of my dad's co-workers had a tan coloured Scout II like that, daily driven but ''almost' as rusty as that junk yard example. Dad was a bit uncomfortable with it initially but the guy got a real kick when I assembled and gifted him a 1/25 scale model of his truck including replication all of the rust and dents.