How REALISTIC is the new REALISTIC TURBULENCE setting in MSFS? | Real Airline Pilot
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I wish they spend an entire sim update just on landing physics, tire friction and ground handling.
so true! this is the only single reason i do not play msfs
That'd be SO nice!
Such suggestions are more than welcome on the forum so people can vote on it.
Also they should add weather radar API support
@@onuremrecanozcan4400 and the airports. I've spent more money on MSFS airports than I have on all my previous sims combined
Love the de-crab on the 10ft callout. Just beautiful technique! Thanks for the video as always.
Thank you very much!
I can't wait for the 737NG Driver Cooking Channel:
Hallo eveyone, My name is Chef Emmanuel and am a cook and also a member of Kitchen Battle's tech team. Today I will be taking you through quite a serious subject, pan fried eggs.
ok, we have all the ingredients - now let us see how it is going to look like.
Flaps 5 *hand on a spatula for reference*
Take off thrust set *max heat on the gas burner*
Brakes released *cracks open egg into pan*
Timing *Starts a timer - duh*
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I had just my approach to EDDM in a A320 and holy crap. Realistic turbulences were insane. They kicked me around and at about 2000 ft AGL it was that extreme that both APs were disabled by the plane until I got it back under control.
the same on Zurich and I had penalties for « stall « ….
Looks like nothing has changed and turbulence is unrealistic like it used to be.
I’m sure it was a real struggle. Did you declare a mayday?
The main problem I have is that I don't really feel the turbulence. The gauges bouncing around is the only cue, really. If you go into outside view you can see the wing flex, for sure - but I think it's important that the camera wobble is properly simulated. The sounds turbulence makes is absent, too. Hearing the cabin rattle would be a bit benefit I think.
You should try out the FS Realistic add-on. I just got it and it's brilliant! Does all of that. Definitely worth the price.
@@mdhazeldineafter getting it i just cant go back, never
@737NG Driver I´ve noticed that the PMDG 738 seems to have less drag now during final approach. For example with Flaps 5 and headwind above 10kts the aircraft still increases the speed. It came with SU12 and not with the latest PMDG update. I tested it before PMDG update and after.
Very good review :) Could you do a video about the trim in the 737? About why it does trim automatically sometimes in the climb without CMD, how to manage it (1 sec by 10 kts) and so on? I think this could be really helpful and interesting for many simpilots here
Easy to see inertia working between different aircraft types - another great tip kids. Did you know there are some kids in third world counties using MSFS?. All learning to fly through these fantastic videos by our real pilot. The education is unmeasurable, and for them freedom of flying through the wizardry and technology of ASOBO. It must be astonishing to them. It also comes at an affordable price, which means kids can use there brains that will help their life skills in many ways (Microsoft are making a difference in troubled counties to educate by flying that is fun - what a great way to learn). Make MSFS cheaper in third world counties - ASOBO, You'd change lives and the world for the better. No reply necessary Emanuele, your videos are thanks enough. You'll never know just how valuable your videos are... keep going.
Very good points Mark, I couldn't agree any more! Practicing from the young age onwards is quite important to sharpen your skills in the areas needed in aviation if you ever plan to follow that path!
Thank you very much as well for your kind words!
Emanuel
Very informative. Thank you.
Holy cow, that Crab technique is beautiful!
Onto my main point here - realistic turbulence doesn’t seem bad but looks like it could still use more.
Can't wait to fly again! I've been at work so haven't been able to test it yet..so thank you for this video!! The straw that broke my proverbial camals back was an approach into White Plains (KHPN), on a still foggy night. I live there, there was literally no air movement outside. I was perfectly stabilized until about 100-200 ft than all the sudden I'm fighting controls, watching the speed indicator swinging back and forth, floated than slammed onto the runway and than even had to fight to keep the rollout straight. Im down for all that if that's the weather..but I was like wth just happened lol
KHPN gang !
You're sent from heaven! THANK YOU...!
Given the mechanical turbulence and the total situation the flare technique in the short final while landing the beechcraft baron was very artistic🎉
Love your content! I am doing a course on the 737 (sim-course) and learning alot referencing your channel aswell in between sessions. PMDG 737-800 all the way! my go to route is gonna be ESSA-EGBB as I am a swede and that is where my girlfriend lives. Ryanair livery :D Thanks for all the work you are doing, and keep it up!
Awesome, thank you!
Always great videos. You should be part of the Microsoft/Asobo tech team as well to help them continue improving and checking the realism.
The amount of real pilots they had in alpha was very high and they ignored all of us lol
Glad someone is asking the real questions about this sim :)
oh god I'm glad I'm not the only one with the bandwith bug
On Norwegian you would expect pilot induced turbulence anytime the co-pilot was hand flying.
Nice video. Thanks capn'.
So the verdict is: Indeed more realistic, but a tiny bit too tame. At least in the scenarios you tested.
Yep
That's amazing because I've heard endless complaints about it being too rough. I also believe if anything it's not rough enough.
@@thegreathadoken6808 because it was rough, but not in the way it was supposed to be. It was too much like flying through water rather than air.
I’ve had this set to realistic since release and have noticed no noticeable difference
Thank you :)
The thermals are far more sensible now, especially for GA aircraft. In the previous SU there were a few select approaches (under hot/dry conditions) that were practically impossible to complete, since a thermal would destabilize the approach at the critical point, and send the aircraft into a shallow climb, even with 5-10 degrees of nose DOWN. And it would happen in the exact same spot every time, without fail...
So I'm very happy with this update, even if (as you say) the unfriendly conditions could be a bit more.. unfriendly.
I've indeed experienced something like that in real life in 2019. For 3NM I needed 5° pitch down in order to keep the glide. Naturally the plane wouldn't decellerate either until we dropped the gear. We started getting worried about issues with the attitude indicators and instrumentation already when we eventually passed the thermal and got stabilized just above the gate. Luckily it was VMC so we could verify that our instruments were indeed not lying to us!
@@A330Driver Oh yes, 5 degrees down to maintain the glide can definitely happen! But to find yourself suddenly CLIMBING on approach despite a 5-10 degree ND correction was pretty over the top, so I'm glad the intensity of thermals has been adjusted in this update :). Cheers.
In MSFS it all depends on the gusts strength. Sometimes 18kts wind will give you only +/-2kts gusts, and sometimes it can go over 10kts of difference. Also MSFS doesn't have roll turbulence modelled at all. You can inject these via FSRealistic, but it's generic, slider based strength.
I think that XP11 with ASXP still has the best turbulence simulation available. XP12 with ASXP12 will follow.
I feel like PMDG has to also do something with their model cfgs... Because I have a different experience when flying the FBW A320 compared to what you showed.
Very very Good expérience with su 12 and Pmdg ,Greet work for All msfs and Pmdg Groupe❤❤❤
Really depends on the plane. I agree on the PMDG 737, it's pretty tame. On some other planes like Just Flight Piper Arrows it's completely bonkers. I can land the turbo arrow IV in 17kt crosswinds on low and medium consistently, but on realistic, I can't fly a simple circuit and final is absolutely insane, especially the last few feet as wind gusts toss me way of course, up / down and sideway.
I flew IFR in VMC yesterday with winds roughly 5 to 10 kts. The only thing I noticed that seemed kind of strange was the tendency of the altitude hold (I'm using the JPLogistics/WB Cessna 152) to balloon a lot. I was having to adjust the throttle a lot to keep my airspeed from going up and down. Other than that, the swells were very smooth at least.
Cessnas Generally aren’t stable in terms of Poor mans autopilot
Don't expect general aviation autopilots to be as accurate as airliner autopilots, you will see them to be much more sluggish which is exactly according to my experience in those aircraft.
I'd suggest you don't try to chase your airspeed with the throttle though. Set your cruise power and forget it. If the plane flies a couple knots faster or slower that really doesn't matter. The 737 even does the same on autopilot ;-)
Regarding the connection issues I found out that VPN really helps. I always have terrible connection here in Germany. With VPN routing via New York it doesn't happen any more. It's crazy!
Re the turbulence and thermals, it's getting better but gliders can still stay aloft indefinitely. There's too much updraft everywhere. That being said, for what is basically a console game, their CFD model is quite impressive.
Thanks for the tip!
Nice video, although would be even nicer if you enabled the wind visualization. It's a great tool to analyze winds.
Thanks! I'm trying to keep it as close to the actual experience of how it feels without trying to get too technical, hence no wind visualization and the likes. It's nice for me if that stuff works in the background, but basically all I care is about how the end result looks and feels.
Thanks for your informative video!
My pleasure!
In a choppy air on a light aircraft altitude swings in anything between 1500 and 2000 ft
Amazing video. I’m new to the 737. How do i get the aircraft to call out +100 & Minimums please ?
Thanks
What are the in sim settings for your rudder pedals? Nice vid!
Hi Emi! Have u tested over mountainous area.By the way love your vids,learned so much.👍🏾
Not yet, I'll give that a go soon!
Have you used RealTurb for MSFS? And what's your opinion on that especially after this update.
I am building a 737-800 Sim using PMDG and your posts are so informative thanks, so I have joined. After your previous turbulence video, I sense you are underwhelmed with this update
I've faced more problems with it due to the low bandwidth issues which made my sim basically unflyable for two days than the update actually did good for me. Trying to focus on the good stuff though.
@@A330Driver As you fly the real 737, I would be interested in any difference is the effect of the pitch power couple, particularly on the go-around. I believe you really have to push forward and trim as the power comes on while in the PMDG sim, if anything I find myself descending if distracted managing go-around procedure.
Hi Emmanuel, I didnt see a reply to this but am interested in your opinion please. Thanks
I got shook around like dice in a cup.
Hi ! Thank you so much for your content, very instructive ! Probably the best sim videos on UA-cam.
I do have a question for you since I heard that you are part of the dev team of PMDG: Are you guys going to do something about the AWFUL wingflex animation of the 737 ? It’s been a while this “problem” was exposed and nothing changes… for the price of this aircraft and all the works that you guys did, it’s a shame to have this level of details that low for quite a “simple” animation to correct… let me know please sir 🙏🏽 thanks again !
Ok for setting turbulences but now I can't contact ATC (tower and ground)
Only traffic. Anything to do?
I emmanuel, as of writing, is there a good A330 payware as close as toliss320/321?
I've noticed the live weather has very erratic wind vector changes in some instances making things a bit all over the place at times.
Pretty much something you can experience in real life. Called Variable winds
@Daniel Windshear actually, variable winds simply mean that there is no primary direction where the wind comes from. If the wind is erratic and has strong changes that would be windshear.
@Ricardo Really? Darn it, I really hoped they finally got rid of those... SU13 then ;-)
@@A330Driver the wait goes on! 😆 I'm sure they will eventually get it smoothed out Captain 🤞
This has plagued MFS for a long time now. As someone who mainly flew GA this has been a major pain, where even with very light winds just these direction changes alone, while probaly realistic just didn't play along nicely with the planes flightmodels. Causing me to transition over to airliners and generally larger aircraft, less impacted by this.
I've been using FSRealistic which gives me granular control over things like this.
Question do you guys use FSRealistic?
So what they could do is, when you have set "realistic" in the settings, they could give us a slider that allows us to adjust the force one way or the other. Even if it was lets say -/+ 30% so we can fine tune the strength of turbulence. This would be ideal.
But that's not realistic we don't control the weather. We have to deal with whatever conditions we are faced with.
@@denziiey That would make sense if the “realistic turbulence” was actually realistic. If it’s more extreme than real life, then a slider would actually make it more realistic.
@@denziiey I take it you never watched the video right the way through, where Emi said the realistic setting is just slightly less than what he is used too in real life. If he had a slider, he could bump it forward by lets say 5% to achieve the realism he is expecting.
@@MrBillUp did he test all situations with differing amounts of turbulence in lots of different aircraft? No, and realistic it absolutely isn’t in all situations. The problem is that he tested with less turbulence than can happen in the sim, in fact it wasn’t even close to how bad it can get and in those situations in small aircraft it’s just not been real. The real problem isn’t so much how big the turbulence effect is even but how fast the acceleration of its effect is on the aircraft. The sim has a big issue with lack of weight feel and the turbulence shows that up once again because the turbulence CAN move the plane almost instantly as if it’s made of cardboard.
@@WhiteHawk77 I don't want to be an arsehole, so I won't mention the lack of paragraphs and punctuation, although it did make it more difficult to read.
From what I gather though, you are suggesting that Emi doesn't know what he is talking about, and doesn't know how to run tests. And even if he did, because the simulator doesn't depict turbulence in the correct manner, his findings would be flawed, and lack any real data.
Yet when you speak to other real pilots who either use MSFS for fun, or are also content creators, they pretty much agree with Emi. Once the plane is in the air. The flight dynamics are really very good. Of course this is also dependent on what airframe you are using, and what developer modeled it?
I also think the new turbulence model is a step in the right direction. It could be taken a step further though, in adding sliders instead of fixed default settings. We need adjustability so it can be dialed in.
Of course you're never going to please everyone. Especially XP trolls, and people with little patients.
What flight controller are you using?
They've done some very good work with this one. A couple more passes and most pilots won't be able to notice a difference anymore.
They also need to fix approaches though. Many approaches don’t have you land on the correct spot. For an enthusiast it won’t make a difference, but for an instrument pilot many of the angles and touchdown zones are incorrect.
@@xplayman That may be true but it's whole other topic
Is pmdg trim effective enough now? Fds said it wasnt as effective as irl but that was a while back
It's like it was before which I feel is quite spot on. What's not 100% in sync if the trim sound vs the trim movement, that might be why FD2S feels it is different than in the real plane. It indeed becomes easy to trim the real plane just by sound after a while which however can't be translated directly into the sim.
@@A330Driver I see myself buying my first pmdg plane soon but I'll wait until the efb comes out. Hopefully out by June
And how did you get the analog Baron, bitte? I did not think it's released yet.
Nope, it's not released yet ;-)
absolutely fast upload
Do you think that pmdg is still correcting as if it were pre su12? Or did pmdg change this with su12?
That's something I hoenstly don't know, sorry.
PMDG corrections are for the rapid gust changes that simply don't exist IRL (in its worst times that means up to 10 cycles per second when the weather is not supposed to have gusts).
It's never meant to make turbulence more tame than it should be.
Do you know when the 737 will come to xbox
Hi Emi, great video as always. To maybe help with your bandwidth message pop-ups try limiting your bandwidth in the internet options in MSFS in case you haven't yet.
I set mine to 40mbps as a precaution even though I have a 500mbps fibre connection. Their servers dip below what you can achieve and you get that message like it's your fault.
I'll give that a try, thanks!
Ich hab bei dir gesehen das du beim t/o den Autothrust schon an hattest bzw. gearmed kannst du dir vorstellen warum der bei mir immer rausfliegt auch bei taxi wenn ich nur ein bisschen schub gebe?
Solltest du getrennte Achsen für Schubhebel 1 und 2 nutzen, wird der A/T abgeschaltet, sobald dort eine zu große Differenz ist. Außerdem gibt es im FMC in den Einstellungen eine Option, ob deine Hardware den A/T overriden sollte. Mit sich nicht mitbewegender Hardware muss dies ausgeschaltet sein.
@@derkazar7145 Ah ok danke mein linker schubhebel is nämlich warum auch immer durch den Thrustmaster TCA immer ein wenig weiter vorne danke :)
It's great to hear your thoughts, however, doesn't matter how much a gust of/or lack of wind in ANY direction is gonna make your view ANY better, programmers can only imagine, then type....lol
It is virtually impossible because of viable wind speeds/lack of, from ANY direction up/down/cross, all are different..lol
How would you compare this to the turbulence model in X-Plane?
I haven't flown enough X-Plane to make an educated statement on this topic.
Do you feel that the flight controls is a bit too responsive as well? :)
Not really, no. You need small inputs, that's accurate to the real plane.
This depends alot from plane to plane. The PMDG planes are some of the absolute nicest feeling, while another favorite of the comunity, the 310 is ultra twitchy compared to anything else.
@@A330Driver what do you say to the flight pysics in msfs in General xpmpared to the Real World? How realistisch is it?
If the "realistic" option is a bit tame, why should the other options even exist?
I love your videos, and please do not take this as a complaint… but when/how much do you actually fly? You release a ton of videos! I would think this channel takes a lot of time to manage.
Hi Emerson, I mostly record videos on my OFF days, pre-upload them and then release them one by one when I'm working. That's why it seems like I'm recording something every day while it's indeed mostly 1-2 days per week where I'm actually recording something.
There's usually a couple hours before or after my flights where I can do some up to date stuff like this one. Well, today I'm actually OFF.
@@A330Driver well, I love the content. Thank you so much!
Here’s a real life turbulence story. I flew in the US Navy on the P-3 and went on to become a flight test engineer when I got out. We were flying from the west to east coast US and when on the east side of the Rockies we got hit with a rotator wind storm. It’s the extreme turbulence on the downwind side. We got beat in the worst turbulence I’ve ever experienced in over 3,000 hours of flight in the P-3. We had a USMC C-130 trailing and 2,000 feet below us. I could hear the fear in the C-130 pilots voice as he nearly begged to go higher to get out of the turbulence. They had injuries aboard his aircraft and our position prevented him from climbing. Our pilot told ATC we’d try to climb and for the C-130 pilot keep a visual on us and follow. The turbulence was so severe we cracked a 3 inch mono crystalline window in our belly from the torque on the airframe. We were able to climb so the turbulence declined from continuous extreme turbulence’s to intermittent severe. I actually had bruising across my waist from the lap belt. Fun times.
wow, that's a story! I hope I'll never have to go through something like that!
@Daniel Wauran will show you realistic turbulence.
Great video, I used to live in grafenwhoer, Germany was the best place for sure. Miss yall Germans.haha
I live in a German town in texas, small world right!
Why are there no emergency situations like fires and stuff like that I mean there technically are but I’m talking like visual effects and smoke.
Probably some license givers are unhappy seeing those in the sim.
Why do you have no bars on your FDs? I've just flown and couldn't get the FDs to display. Is it a bug in SU12
It all works fine here. Just like it should.
@@A330Driver maybe it’s me? I just couldn’t see them on your display
i got thrown around at 39,000ft in the Salty 748 LOL because i set it to realistic and the autopilot cracked the sads at me LOL😂
ooh
First!
@@A330Driver YAYYYY
@@A330Driver im so happy this is very suii
anyway tho, u shoukd try xplane, it has much more realistic models and wind simulation
@@mick001 This comment is a bit out of date in 2023. The atmospheric simulation kicks sand in the face of the weather simulation of Xplane. One of the issues msfs developers are facing is to code around and model around the very sensitive atmospheric simulation in msfs. And this takes time, more time we would actually like it too. We see lots of "comparison" videos and comments like this one This is becoming more of an ego trip and click bait type efforts to divide the community.
Seeing that we sit in static chairs and static screens with no momentum or inertia, realism claims either way seems futile, because there is even differences in opinion between real life pilots, let alone simmers who think they know how things work.
One fact, however, is that the flight model between xplane and msfs have reached a point of convergence. sim what you like, but the claim that xplane is better has become like a bland plate of food. Gives you something to do but achieves very little. With the flight model alike, then the rest of the sim platform is miles in the favour of msfs
@@pieterduplessis6906 i wasnt saying that xplane is better than msfs in terms of realism, my bad. i just said that xplane is more sensitive to wind, which is the message i was trying to convey. fly through a cloud in xplane, and you can feel that sensitivity.
and yes, real life is an entirely different experience! ive flown in the right hand seat of a cirrus sr22t once, and it is completely different than in the simulation. you dont feel the gforces, and the weight of the controls.
edit: oh btw, i prefer msfs xD, i bought it. i tried xplane once, the weather simulation is shit, but u do feel more wind pushing ur control column and stuff
what is "EKBI"?
I always use the real weather setting. But the turbulence always drives me nuts in this simulator. It's cool that we can adjust it now. But I'm going to leave mine at low. Just makes things so much easier
Mine still says 12 beta…. Help!
I swear this guy sounds like 3 different people I thought he was Graham Norton for a sec 😂
😂😂😂
I find the realistic option combined with Fenix to be unrealistic…I did appproach to EDDM, wind was stable headwind about 11kts and the pitch control was far from being stable. Continous 4-5 degrees pitch correction needed from 2000ft down to the runway in a very good weather conditions is meh…
The Fenix might well have played a role in this. I find it to have quite a heavy loss of lift for gaining/loosing only a few knots of airspeed in the Vref+5 to Vref+15 region, thus requiring a LOT of corrections from the pilots on the pitch. Try with another airliner and see how that goes.
@@A330Driver exactly, I probably did not pointed out correctly, but I am reffering to the Fenix as a culprit of these overcorrections. I tried with FBW A320, B738 and C700 in the very similar conditions and all behaved very well, definitely an improvement from SU11.
Well, not only that I have to change some of the graphics settings when using Fenix, but now also the turbulence…:-D
Anyway, thanks for all the content Emi, appreciate that.
@@michaelpoch996 Isn't it realistic the turbulence feels different depending on what aircraft we are using? I think that is an amazing achievement. I think it needs more tuning and i think we will never have 100% perfect turbulence simulation in a desktop simulator. I'm really happy they will continue improve it. With the options they now have implemented we will get dangerous turbulence inside clouds in future updates.
@@perrry4159 It's realistic that different aircraft react differently, but what Michael experiences here is actually something related to the Fenix flight model. It gains/looses a lot of lift in a speedband where it shouldn't. That leads to strange handling and the requirement for a lot of pitching as you approach landing speed.
@@A330DriverAgree. I know fenix had some changes to make it feel more realisticafter after a sim update of msfs. Maybe they need to revert those changes now when Asobo improved the turbulence model?
When are we going to get working wipers and realistic rain physics asobo? sim update 20? lol
The same for me, i always see when it is raining on my cocpitglass , these wimpers do not remove the raindrops.
where did you find the 737 mod pls
pmdg.com
Please fix the failures😢😢 💯
Hey Captain, I'm going to watch your video right now after writting those words hh... of course I don't know yet if you will talk about Realism not "realism" (I anticipate lol) because we are many real pilots and harcore simmers to dig for realism and to raise votes on the forum in order to get added very important and crucial features in terms of Realism concerning the weather...
During my first training to get my first licence (PPL) one thing that you have been trhough as well was to care about the weather before getting on the tarmac knowing that the weather and its dangers in the skies is the corner stone in Aviation for safety purposes. TS/CB could be lethal for small to big birds as we well know.
I do expect that SU12 deals with that for the sacrosanct sake of realism, means that I can't consider the sim realisitc if the base of realism is not there as to fly a C152 right into TC/TCU/CB without any severe up/downdraft that could go to 10 000 ft in the worst case and about what could badly happen if we, by accident or else, get into TS with a C172 or even a B777.
Hopefully Asobo will take their promises like unlocking the vertical winds for SU12 ("unlimited" as they said in previous Q&A!), Turbulence in clouds in CB which will make sense to keep the seat belt ON (after FL100 for instance) and Engine Ice ON if we go through those clouds etc unless it's just cosmetic, "arcade mode" somehow if I want to stress this out!
Unfortunatelly so far the "msfs turbulence system" do not represent any danger that could occure in RL, because no matter what the METAR/TAF predict in severe weather conditions we can still fly a Cub safely with a cup of coffee on the right hand into CB, which doesn't offer an accurate and realistic picture of real skies for non-pilots.
Hopefully it did change because the concern here that some of us have now is that yesterday after the SU 12 released, we were chasing for TS but we didn't find any despite of METAR data that shown many spots on earth including Sigmet TS/TCU etc...
I have no idea if msfs detect TS so far, TS which must to be avoided as we do know for sure...
Let's see how it goes...
Now I can watch your video hhh, my pleasure! ;-)
EDITED:
I just watched it, I second that 100%! ... ground turb is very well done imo but severe weather conditions is way too friendly, same here I would expect more inputs on the ailerons during the approach no doubt and more turbulence on top of it... I'll share your video on the forum: "Realistic Dangerous Weather" area if you don't mind! Tks!
Very well said! Happy for you to share it whereever you like!
@@A330Driver I like your videos that are well done and very instructive for pilots and non-pilots, good job, good inspiration so my pleasure to share!
In my opinion the realistic setting is to strong on approach in the fenix its literally uncontrollable speed variang it could go up 10 knots sometimes but and pitch change of sometimes 10 degrees when the wind is only 5kts .
It's not the turbulence that is too strong, it's the Fenix Fly By Wire and flight dynamics that just aren't up to the job. They've got amazing systems and visuals, but manual flight and the flight model is a point where the Fenix hugely lacks.
After watching that, I'm still happy to stick to XP and DCS.
Is the wind in this sim just too unrealistic? Every time I land it's all over the place and impossible to maintain centre line. And the speed is just jumping high and low just ridiculousy fast
(Live weather) MSFS wind physics especially surface winds is programmed by a five-year-old. I've flown a hand full of GA aircraft in real life around various types of weather but I've never once used full rudder deflection just to stay on the centerline. The thing I really hate the most is that crosswinds on the ground only take effect above a certain speed. When taxiing below 20 knots, the plane behaves as it supposes to but once I get a knot over, all of a sudden, crosswinds take effect with the power of Zeus blows you off the center and you have to use considerable rudder input to compensate. Correcting this by putting your aileron into the wind will cause your nose to oscillate as all of a sudden there's no more crosswind. And oh, all of this within a crosswinds component of 10 knots smh. I've taken off near a thunderstorm with a piper arrow in real life with a gust of 35 knots and never had this silly problem. This is why seldom use Live Weather in the sim.
Where are you from?
Germany
what do i do if my msfs keeps saying "checking for updates"
Write Asobo/Microsoft an angry email...
@@A330Driver yea sure will!
Third! Does that count?
Immer noch nicht möglich Satellitendaten zu streamen. Läuft ja wieder super das Update🙄
Überaaaaaaschung
GTAV flying has prepared me for this day.
😂😂😂
The only thing I noticed is that as you fly the turbulence seems to be a programmed oscillation more than it is turbulence. Set ap and fly a straight line, you will see the same "turbulence" effect over and over again like a loop. And if you speed up time, you will see the "turbulence" is the same effect repeated. It doesn't feel bad, it just feels scripted. Turbulence should feel random, not like a repetitive programmed wobble in the plane! But as it is, it seems to repeat the same effect over and over instead of randomly affecting the plane differently every time. I flew 200mi at 5000ft and watched the same turbulence hit the plane the same way, for over 200miles!!!! It's better than it was, but still seems repetitive and fake.
Interesting, I got to give this a go!
Sterile cockpit captain. Put the camera away! 😂
The problem is the effect of wind. Way too exaggerated... especially with Turbulence at high.
One or the other.
yeah, they broke some stuff again since I recorded this video.
But you did not mention GUST SETTINGS which is available in the manual weather settings. You also failed to mention the ridiculous amount of YAW correction you needed on the ground after landing on both the 737 and the Baron. I have never, ever seen such a wild yaw-on-the-ground ride in any aircraft in real life as I see in MSFS. Why did you completely leave this absent in your comments? If you shoot multiple landings in the same weather scenario you will notice that each requirement for correcting is repeated almost predictably, as though it was not random but artificially programmed. This is the giveaway in MSFS. It is not a turbulence simulation. It is STILL baked in turbulence.
I left those out because they're not what the video is about. The video is about turbulence, not gusts. The approach in gusty conditions is done to show the mechanical turbulence caused by such winds.
Turbulence sucks in msfs. It moves the horizon to simulate Turbulence and not aircraft. Especially in vr
Clouds still don't look right.
Well, the entire sim doesn't look like the real world. It's a game.
A bit too bumpy. Too exaggerated.
Spoiler alert: Not realistic AT ALL. Maybe with big ol' jets but with a GA plane while trying to fly realistically it's a joke. Children of magenta that just click autopilot buttons in an airliner think it's cool, real pilots and serious simmers laugh at it.
@MicrosoftFlightSimulator