The TRUTH Behind Consumer Reports' Misleading Tesla vs Mercedes Comparison
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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Consumer Reports test Tesla against Mercedes and others in this very very fair, non bias, totally reasonable comparison of their ADAS (Just ignore FSD)
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Pay to play. Ford foundation pays CR. Tesla does not.
Simple
Just FYI - Ford Foundation has ZERO to do with Ford Motor Company. Ford Foundation was built on Henry Ford donation when he died, basically in exchange for him leaving his heirs special class stock ownership of Ford Motor Company rather than pay estate taxes. He would probably roll in his grave at some of the things Ford Foundation has done over the years. They are completely unrelated at this point beyond their namesake.
Corruption at its best disgusting
They dissed a car that they don't like, the world might actually end. Why are you so pressed?
I wonder if we should sue CR for false advertising. They used to be great but now seems they are corrupted
It's a simple matter. The media always denigrates Tesla, because Tesla never buys advertising space.
Also, tesla is a disruptor to the industry. The old guard stands to make zero dollars when tesla takes market share.
tesla only buys 100's of shill channels on youtube to pump them 🤣🤣
It’s much deeper than that. There is a great battle over the future of humanity going on. Haven’t you noticed?
What are u talking about? 😂@@jebes909090
Old car magazines were always up for the highest bidder, but CR only adopted that this century
I had been a CR subscriber for decades. I am also a car guy. The anti-Tesla bias was so obvious that I canceled and have never looked back. It made their supposed objectivity such a joke that I decided I couldn't trust them on anything. I continue to have a problem with any source that conflates autopilot with FSD when in fact autopilot is merely cruise control which is on virtually all new cars. Stupid is NOT acceptable.
CR lost me as a Customer in 1990's when they said the CANON Rebel was better than the NIKON F4 AF.
Yall are pressed over a tesla review. If they test it and find problems, they will report it.
@@enolopanr9820 - CR is NOT a trusted source, they are FRAUDS.
who take PAYMENT for Favoable reviews.
@@enolopanr9820 The issue was bias not test results...
@ again, youre pressed over a car review
Consumer Reports is dishonest.
Conjob Distorts or Consumer FRAUD.
That’s why NBC runs their stuff.
Just need to PAY them for relative honesty, if competitors bid higher you still lose ratings.
Indeed. They should come clean up-front about their connection with Ford (it was no surprise to me that Blue Cruise won their comparison...)
@@jayarbe60 Ford contributes money to Consumer Reports through its foundation. CR knows this of course....
Dear Consumer Reports. I will bring my Tesla Model 3 to any location you choose and you can bring any Mercedes EQE 350 of your choosing. We will put them head to head in real-world self-driving scenarios and allow your viewers to choose which does better. $100k to the winner. What do you say?
They complain about the $40k Model 3 not having an instrument panel, yet a $79k Model X does - which is much more comparable of a vehicle to the $80k Mercedes EQE 350 they tested.
Consumer Reports has lost my trust a long time ago… CNBC is no better…
Everything NBC touches is awful.
Interesting that she jerks the steering wheel on the Model 3, while she gently nudges the wheel on the Mercedes...and says how much better it does. How much more bias could this be?
Sorry Will, I can’t watch stupidity for more than a couple of minutes before having to switch off. 😮
Understandable. I couldn't help myself
Can’t trick a Telsa on FSD because there’s a camera watching you at all times that you’re in the driver seat,….. you can trick it on auto pilot but NOT FSD
Now autopilot will also check your eyes when using it.
@@wensiangfong Without an Infrared camera it is not reliable, glasses or sun glasses will make it useless.
@@wensiangfong I have I cover to cover the camera, it don’t bother me at all, I just turn it off and back on like every 2-3 minutes
„Independant“ group. Sure…
Consumer Reports is very biased. Not only against Tesla.
They ranked Fords first....I have a Ford with blue cruise....it's ok at best. Not even close to being as capable as Tesla.
My mom has had a ford mach-e with blue cruise for about a year, I just got a Tesla model Y a month ago. Don't get me wrong I loved Blue Cruise and it's the main reason I got a new car because it impressed me. But compared to Tesla it is not even remotely close. It's basically equivalent to Tesla's autosteer but nowhere near FSD.
Agreed on BlueCruise. I have a Mach-e which I love but I’ve tested FSD on a new model Y recently. It is light years beyond BlueCruise.
with the difference that it works all over the world and not only in CA like Tesla :D
@@LunnarisLP I’m on the east coast, it works anywhere in the US not just CA. But I definitely agree that internationally Tesla doesn’t offer FSD to my knowledge only autosteer. I just heavily disagreed because they specifically listed autopilot/FSD not just autopilot. Which is 100% wrong FSD is better than anything on that list as far as I have seen
I cancelled my 30 yr CR subscription in disgust when all this began. I can’t believe how incompetent this one was.
Her report it’s fake she doesn’t know shit how she get hired to do this job 😂
They did the same thing to Apple computers back in the day.
CR are absolute clowns. Crazy they didn't test FSD in this case and just dismissed it as "you can stop at traffic signals with that one" and moved on.
Consumer Reports is affiliated with the Ford Foundation. So .....
Wow, how is anyone going to trust consumer report after this?
What a dreadful report from "Consumer Reports" - talk about picking the tests to determine the results wanted.
What a great video ,I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice biased reporting . I wonder who was paying them?
Paid advertising disguised as testing.
Par for the course for NBC.
Tthe report on driver aids was done in October 2023 and seems irrelevant now.
They say "Independant" while accepting more than 100K $ from the Ford Foundation... Clearly not biased at all 😂
Do they talk about the fact that manufacturers choose the SAE level themselves? Nope!
Looking a bit sideways instead of just down is NO problem! This is pure stupidity to say that it's better because it's never been a problem for me. Habits can change pretty quickly when it is implemented correctly. The best car I have ever driven is the Tesla model 3 2024. My only gripe is the trunk.
Bottom line is GM does is better because it is SUPER cruise 🤣🤣
I just canceled my CR membership and let them know it’s because of their clear bias.
I love how CR succumbed to DEI pressure and hired a Trans tester 😂
My Cybertruck drive me to work and drive me home every day with FSD. This people don’t know what they are talking about.
I don't usually believe in conspiracy theories, but this really seems like they were paid to boost some and knock some automakers on the list.
That CNBC report was BS and completely sponsored 😂😂
FSD and autopilot will both work with the cab camera covered but system will default to the steering wheel nag if it is. Obviously we can test this in the UK but loads of videos on UA-cam about this when FSD (Supervised) was first released.
I think some points from CR are valid.
1. I've had issues taking the control over when there was pothole cuz the autopilot or FSD grab the streering wheel super hard and you need to apply quite a lot of force in order to cancel it.
2. FSD/Autopilot DO constantly asks me to apply force on the steering wheel even if im paying attention to the road.
Tesla's autopilot isn't perfect. Some people do think it's not as easy/convenient to use compared to other ADAS system.
We'll see how well the CR / CNBC hit pieces age once Tesla starts licensing FSD tech to other automakers. I can't wait. 🤣
Most certainly. I look forward to revisiting this soon
Consumer Reports have always had a dubious methodolgy.
Yes, they have been for decades. Once they got “big” their results suddenly started getting really weird.
@oneaburns I came to that conclusion in 1990 while doing research for a car. Ended up purchasing one that was poorly rated but never regretted the purchase.
@1:52 This chart is an absolute joke. FSD is light-years IMO ahead of any other of the driving systems.
But Will, it wasn't a positive from CR. To say FSD is among the best is to infer a false equivalency. One cannot in good conscience say they are even roughly equal. FSD first. Daylight second. Love your work.
I stopped subscribing to CR after over 50 years because this kind of reporting.
Note, this Consumer report was made in Oct 2023 so is hopelessly out of date.
it's been decades since I took any stock in CR
Why would they test it with the camera covered.. Thats stupid...
I really wish I could understand the actual hate for Tesla and Musk. People don’t like that Tesla is doing things differently, and that Musk is influencing politics. The only difference there is he’s overt about the fact that the mega rich have influence. Worry when his actual actions and policy ideas make life worse for everyone, but so far I just haven’t seen any of that or anything that can convince me he’s actively terrible on more than a surface level inability to interact with others appropriately
Too long to type here, but people are very entrenched with their tribes. When you tell them something they perceive as bad for their tribe, they go into attack mode. Even if you tell them you have proof the tribe is trying to hurt them, they will attack you. That’s why when Musk today showed how USAID is giving our tax money to Politico and Associated Press, they get mad at him, and not the government.
Billions spent on trying to slow down evs and keep selling a trillion dollars a year of gas in the US alone. Attack, attack and attack to discredit the leader. No reason required, so they create evil Musk, terrible Tesla, and lies about costs. Has probably kept ice fuel sales up by billions per week world wide. Easy investment with at least 20x returns by just paying for media lies.
Their approach used by CR seemed very subjective. No discussion of the specific categories that are being evaluated. Seems like a slipshod approach to evaluating a highly complex operation. Is it possible that CR decided the outcome in advance and then conducted the tests in such a manner that it would match their assumptions?
Consumer Reports proves that it is in the pocket of legacy auto.
You can use the turn signal to tell the car to change lanes.
CR seems to be stuck using Tesla software from 2018 for some reason
It is veru obvious that the test was riged. Blocking the interior camera? Who in his right mind will do that. Did they block the cameras in GM, and Ford driver assits features? Of course no. Pretending to be asleep and holding the steering in a highway asist system. That is a non sense test. Did they also preternded to be asleep in the MB, of course not.
At the end it does not matter what CR says. The truth will come out by mid sunmer this year.
I’ve used FSD on my Tesla and I won’t trust it to drive me home
How will these systems perform on very bad roads like the A26 in the Philippines?
Putting a sticker over your driver monitoring camera is a good way to get kicked out of the fsd program.
These seems similar to the Dateline NBC inaccurate story about the Audi 5000
There is an old saying, “you can put lipstick on a pig to dress it up, but it’s still a pig”.
I have the BMW system. I have to be careful it’s nearly killed me a number of times. Speeds towards stationary traffic. Disengaging mid corner. Ignores speed limits. Once accelerated to 100mph due to reading a bad sign even though limit legally is 70 max. It’s basically a fancy cruise control and that’s it.
As someone who drives a Tesla as my main car and a VW Passat as a company car, I have to admit, that the autopilot disengaging when driver input is being applied is very frustrating. Teslas autopilot is far superior on holding the lane and making turns, no doubt about that. If however, I want to overtake on the motorway while using the autopilot, then it will disengage - make the turn - and then I have to manually engage again.
On the Passat however, I can fully take control of the car while the travel assist is active. This means I can override the automatic steering and it will not turn off. This is on longer drives my preferred method to drive.
So, even though I am very pleased with my tesla, I do not use the autopilot function anymore on a busy road where I have to overtake a lot, as it's just annoying to engage the autopilot after a lane change again.
Truth be told, not sure why you are getting your panties are tied up in a knot.
CR has done a huge service to all those individuals who relied on their decades of what was once believed to be unbiased reporting.
For most, if not all, EV or technology lovers who have just watched this CR reporting façade video, what this video has actually done is to graciously expose its foundation of deceit and corruption to those who are capable of free thought.
Thank you Consumer Reports, for those of us who were once blind … but now can see.
For me, CNBC has lost credibility for all other information style videos, just by confidently posting this one. I would honestly DOGE this part of their company.
I don’t even want to imagine how much she’s getting paid to test cars without knowing ANYTHING about them.
I would find something like driver collaboration a plus for much of my driving, in order to bias around potholes and roadkill, and override unwanted lane changes or the rare but annoying straying into the neighboring lane . I also wish that a steering disengagement of FSD would leave TACC active. Even as it is, though, I am loving FSD V13.2.2. Had to drive a 12.5.4 loaner the other day. I had loved V12 for several months last year, prior to V13, but supervising V12 after V13 really underscored how improved the V13 experience is. maybe, in another release or two, FSD will be consistently able to do its own pothole/roadkill dodging.
They should test L1 systems vs other L1 systems, L2 systems vs other L2 systems, etc.. And set appropriate expectations for each level.. This seems like common sense.
These types of stories with half assed journalism are infuriating
I fully agreed to your confusion argument. Black or white.
I disagree on the collaborative aspect.
I live in the US and drive a 2016 Model S with AP1. This includes lane change on turn signal. But if I need to correct something, I have to restart it. OK, it’s an old system…
In Germany, I rented a Model Y with basic Autopilot. It was horrid under the conditions there. Many times it missed speed limits, and the frequently needed lane changes on the Autobahn (where you must stay in the right lane when not passing) were freaking annoying! It felt as if these deactivations and reactivations were never ending and almost made the system pointless.
So, for the times I am not on FSD, I absolutely would want collaborative steering. In FSD it’s debatable, but I could see it being useful there as well - at least until FSD can reliably detect any obstacle, pot hole etc.
It is time that Tesla takes these guys to court.
I wonder if USAID ever gave these guys anything
There are some issues with EAP. The internal camera is one. Doesn't work at night and the bluetack trick is weird. I have been holding the wheel reasonably lightly around curves and it's disengaged with a gentle ping, not realising (but got used to it). It still gets skitty on split lanes and cones. Needs to be aware of potholes and slow down to the speed limit before the posted limit (like VW does). FSD is a whole other thing but EAP needs improvement - I'm a Tesla bull but still...
they really should be fined for that kind of behaviour.
The driver in a Tesla is used to the side screen.. They basically are saying tesla looses points because they are different. Thats silly
Head's up Display would be awesome feature to add
One look at Kelly Funkhouser convinces me her opinions on Tesla are 100% NOT politically motivated
2:50 if the camera is blocked it does still want you to apply some torque every so often. but that is applying some torque not actually turning the wheel
I have no idea how any of you are able to cover the camera and still drive. It screams at me every time I forget to move my privacy cover.
Rating "collaborative" and driver monitor methods seem too subjective. Are there studies that show one way or another is safer?
A true test should put the ADAS in multiple scenarios such as pedestrian avoidance, lane and crossing encroachment, sudden stops, blind curves, inclement weather, etc. These matter much more than possible contrived cheats IMHO.
So sad that money means so much that facts are thrown out of the window.
Thanks for calling them out, however, Tesla Autopilot and cruise control does have its faults. Phantom braking, un-necessary braking and occasional steering anomalies. It would be great if Tesla did some tidy up on these systems.
It’s long overdue a fix for these issues.
As someone that has been driving a model 3 since 2018 and now 2024 model 3, both with FSD, the issues you have listed are pretty much solved. Currently on FSD version 13.2.6. I drive both city and highway and and rarely manually drive the car at all.
@ I’m in Australia, no FSD here, although they charge full fare for a very cut down version of it.
used to get online CR but no more. And just for the record, blue cruise sucks
Tesla should sue them for damages. Also, Teslas will recognize school busses and stop when the stop sign is out.
You know how much the old guard of auto makers stand to lose if people realize how good fsd is now? It's a lot of money and happens everytime someone comes in and disrupts the gravy train.
Edit- $2500 a year? They really are out here making FSD look cheap when it is way
The Mercedes system actually taking liability is very good and is an objective way they get something better than Tesla. The fact is works in like one spot of the entire country is a massive flaw.
What is my experience is that adas or fsd should never let the driver alone, but stop the car after some attempt to keep the car in a safe situation. If driver passes out, car should stop its movement and not stop serving as a help. It happened that our kia stopped with its adas and we're lucky that we can remember if it, as our car bounced on a guard rail damaging all the right part of car. Could be worse, but could even be better if it was continuing to do what it should be designed for, which is passengers safety. I'd even say that i tried various adas (Volkswagen, mercedes, tesla) and i liked and disliked parts of all of them. I really hated it Tesla the fact that it was disabling self drive just because instead of slightly pushing on the steering wheel I was pushing a bit to hard, did the rest, and that instead of I was not pushing at all adas was getting disabled for too long time IMO. I like bmw ad showing that car is showing down and trying to wake up driver in many ways. I suppose every car, as next step should behave like that, even if I suppose that I'm case of a steep turn you may finish anyway in the guard rail...
Sponsored „consumer“ reports are never independent 😅 besides of the fact that most of the people out there are driving one or two average aging cars...
the key question which is missing everywhere in such reports is - how fast the systems are learning and improving (over updates) in the actual vehicle you‘re riding over 3-5 years.
Consumer Reports seems to have lost its way in evaluating cars. Lots of emphasis on complex electronic safety gear (read expensive to buy and extremely expensive to repair) with little emphasis on miles/km per dollar over the lifetime of the car.
I think MKBHD did a comparison between Tesla, Mercedes, Ford and one more that I can't remember. And Tesla was the best iirc
Strongly suspect that merc paid for the report.
The only point where they are correct is where Tesla autopilot does not allow you to dodge a pot hole for example without cancelling it, with any driver intervention it takes its toys home and you have to reengage it, not good! What it should be doing is reporting home the intervention so they can see why!
I wonder why the Ford was ranked #1 ?? ....... Hmmmmmm ..... I have no idea ??? ... Nothing to see here, move along!!
They in fact just ignored FSD and only used the Autopilot that is 1. practically only a (free) lane and speed assist and 2. seems to be the step child of development at Tesla. And how they describe FSD and "test" is just ignorant.
The point that Tesla is driving the cars driverless out of the factory should give a clear view of what is happening. However for me it was like "yeah, okay", because if you watch just a few FSD videos of FSD13 users that show in fact it doesnt matter if they had a wheel and pedals or not to get from A to B is for me much more impressive than the cars drive driverless inside the factory borders.
I don’t think they’re using the true FSD supervised. I think they’re using some other lower level autonomous system. And I think FSD supervised is more like level three. 😮
You have to turn driver assist back on after every time you dodge a pot hole in a Tesla? That's pretty annoying on Australian roads.
True it would be nice to be able to tug the wheel a bit to encourage one side of the road to drive in and in so doing miss the potholes. Unfortunately it cannot be done currently; have to pull it out of FSD and reengage after the pothole
Remember watching that video and thinking these people are crazy 😂
They literally taped over Tesla’s driver monitoring camera during testing, disabling a critical safety feature …while praising Mercedes that lacks any camera based monitoring. Worse, CR then claimed Mercedes would “easily be #1” if it had a camera… despite Tesla already having one they intentionally broke. This isn’t testing -it’s rigging the game.
Meanwhile, Mercedes’ $2500/year system only works
The comparison is absolutely ridiculous. Consumer reports has no credibility.
I had watched this consumer report video yesterday. I was surprised they rated tesla so low. My wife and I both own model 3s and use the autosteer option regularly. After listening to the long list of requirements just to turn on the mercedes system, I laughed. Autosteer doesn't need a car on front of it. It will drive in the city or highway or back road. It will activate day or night and it will work in most weather conditions provided it can see the road lines. Regarding covering the camera, it's not an inferred camera and if you cover it, it will assume it's too dark to see you in the cabin and default to tug on the steering wheel option instead. I do feel tesla was misrepresented or misunderstood during this testing. Test it out yourself if you want the real story.
I was livid when I watched that video.
I was a CR subscriber for decades. I have dropped them.
Yeah I saw this and thought it was absurd how they do their tests. I don’t think they got the fax that FSD is available on Tesla. Driver Collaboration??? Are they high? Either the car is effective driving itself with minimal or no human intervention needed or it’s so poor it needs the ‘driver collaboration’ to work. The fact it allows driver input pretty much tells you how good a product it is at driving itself ‘without assistance’.
This could be an editing hack job by CNBC. Its possible consumer reports test bith, but CNBC cherry picked.
Its pretty clear they tested FSD with camera, but CNBC decided to only show with the camera off?
Bad either way.
Not as big of a deal, they did the same thing with sunscreen, they picked the one with the most waterproof. I mean many people just want a regular sunscreen especially in California where very few go in the ocean regularly and many never!
Tesla Jigsaw - the Consumer FRAUD video is very old & using FSD beta, not even FSD v12xxx.
however you correctly called out Consumer FRAUD on this test in question.
Consumer FRAUD needs to do an UPDATED video using FSD supervised v13xx.
This kind of biased report is typical for CR and CNBS. I owned a Mach e and Lightning and for no good reason the vehicle would just give up steering and would put you in a ditch. For that reason, this CR/CNBS piece is biased. Irrelevant at bests is BS
Thanks for sharing your experience
Driving out of a factory on roads with no traffic in low speed is not that impressive and you brought it up like 20 times..
Chills are gonna shill
PS I believe Ford Foundation is the biggest donor to CR.
Tesla is at Level 3 will be at Level 4 by Summer and be Level 5 by end of the year.