Should Paternity Tests Be Mandatory? Rapper 600 Breezy Questions Paternity on Social Media
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2021
- After questioning the paternity of his alleged child, rapper 600 Breezy has us thinking: Would it be such a bad idea if paternity tests were mandatory, regardless of relationship status?
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If you are asking for child support then it should be mandatory.
It is. There has to be a test before a ruling. If he doesn’t take it then in most cases the court assigns him as the dad even if the test would’ve come back negative
It is unless he signed the birth certificate
Exactly
So if a man has to pay child support and request a dna test the woman can refuse..yet he still had to pay? I'm not from the U.S. so just curious.
@@thunder8185 that I’m not sure of. I just know from the perspective of a child in the child support issue. I am married and had my child, so no dna needed. But I do believe that if she refuses then child support can’t be determined until a test is done. For example, my dad denied a test on me and the judge said he needed to pay, when I was 12 he wanted a test and the judge denied his request
If you have multiple partners, that’s on you😭 whoever the dad is still deserves to know whether it’s HIS child or not.
Agreed
The worst one was the girl organised a creampie gangbang party and all the guys agreed not to be contacted or involved after the party.
Never hold women to account for their bad decisions, listen to the overweight's comments
And the CHILD deserves to know if Dad is really his/her Dad. Even if you don’t want it to ever come up, the child should be able to be with his/her biological father, or know for sure at some point especially if there was ever a doubt (multiple partners esp around the time of conception), at least be comfortable in the presence of his/her alleged father (and of course if it isn’t his/her father, then the child deserves to know WHO IS his/her father)
I mean imagine you never tell the child and you raise your child with this man, later down the road, for health reasons or otherwise, a dna test is done and the child finds out his or her father was never his or her father
Even if the woman didn’t know, if SHE had sex with anyone else even 1-2 months, plus or minus the time was conceived, a test should be done. If she cheated… even worse.
It’s insane how common a man raising a child that he didn’t know wasn’t biologically his actually is
So if not for the men, at least for the dang children
As someone that used to work in the child support office of my state, a paternity test probably should be done. I saw so many men who were not the father and thought they were.
Probably be done? SHOULD BE MANDATORY
Speak on it sis
Women want DNA tests when thier 16 year old son get someone pregnant.
You can see why men are leaving w3stern women alone and going abroad to start families, THEIR OWN FMILIES not raising pookiy/ray ray/chads babies. Good luck women, strong and independent and single. Get some cat's or dogs, make a YT TikTok video about how you have been used and abused and left on the street.
I know SEVERAL men that have taken care of children that they thought were theirs, only to find out that the kids' mothers were dishonest... In some cases for YEARS... Paternity tests should absolutely be mandatory... And for the women who are saying they'd be offended if they were asked for one, it's not just about YOU... This protects ALL parties involved... The woman, the man, AND the child.
Agreed. It also does a favor for the kids too. Plus it also does a woman a favor too, if the man tries to deny his own kid even when they are the father. My aunt said the father of her baby deny him being the father even if he was the only guy she was with. Years later my cousin grew up with just a single mom and no support from his dad. However, he did pretty good for himself, he open his own success small business and own his own ranch. Guess what his father finally admitted to him that he was actually is father when he was in his 30s. Like he knew he was the father he didn't what to take responsibility.
I agree
Those men should sue!
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right because there are a lot of low down women out there who will do this just for a free ride in life .
I've watched paternity court long enough to know. HELL YEA IT SHOULD BE MANDATORY
Facts!!!!!
Exactly. 👏🏽👏🏽💯💯
Same here. I think if Loni watched it, she'd understand why it should be mandatory. For me, it's all about the child knowing who they come from.
Facts it all in the Stats.
Mandatory testing for that is against Human Rights.
Sorry, I’m just going to say it: it also holds women accountable, not just men. No one can tell you who to lay down with but making this law will force women to at least be accountable and know who they’re sleeping with and who IS the father without cameras, second hand embarrassment and for the minority that trap good guys into a situation by lying when they KNOW he’s not the father and scarring good men. Let’s be honest, these women exist too and need a reality check just like everyone else. 🤷🏾♀️
Preach!!!
Most women say that they would be offended by their husbands asking them to take one or wanting to take one but the the thing is if it's mandatory you won't feel guilty or anything.
And your worried about these poor Men?? Before you have SEX you should know it might make her pregnant. Nobody's fault but HIS!!
@@CrystalDatingCoach a hit dog will holla😂😂
@@CrystalDatingCoach it’s your fault because you control who has access to your body🤦🏾🤦🏾
Paternity test should be mandatory. Let’s stop pretending like it shouldn’t be.
jeannieee😂😂😂😂😂”this back that ain’t even buttoned up “ she’s so relatable
Yassssss I love her 😍🤣
YESS I love her lol she's always kept it real 😆
Sooooo extra
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She wanna black sooo bad 🤣🤣🤣
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I mean I get Loni point I don’t think she understands that the test also plays in the woman’s favor because when a man tries to deny his child the test has already been taken. It protects both the woman and the man.
EXACTLY. To many Baby Daddy's denying it's their Child. Even Rich and Famous people do it.
She wants to care about women being stigmatized but doesn't care about the real life consequences to men who have been imprisoned, spent thousands of dollars and have had their lives ruined for children that aren't their's. This will curb infidelity as well..
@@agathachris9722 i agree. It sounds like she doesn’t want women to be held accountable. She’s also not thinking of the men getting dogged by family court or women out here
@@agathachris9722 oh please for every man like that there are a million deadbeats that abandoned their children and are not paying a damn cent while the single mother is struggling to stay afloat
Exactly 💯💯👏🏽👏🏽
Tyler Perry didn't find out until after his mom died and he was in his 40's that the man that raised him wasn't his father. Paternity tests should absolutely be mandatory and in this instance bump a woman's feelings, we talk about equality make it fair. Beyond the man, it is unfair to the child to be lead on like that.
Wow. Smh. Tyler Perry knows how to write salacious storylines in his movies and tv shows so he has a lot to pull from regarding his own life. He can channel his experiences
Here’s the thing, there are places where even if you aren’t biological the father if you established a legal paternity i.e. signed birth certificate or raised the children in a marriage - you’re gonna paid child support. So it seems best to always establish paternity at birth.
The only ones I've seen are where the man knew he wasn't the bio father, but chose to the father, then things later fell apart.
That's so messed up. Then these tests should absolutely be mandatory.
Damn so no givesies backsies?!
Actual Facts
Thank you someone finally said it. In Many places the judges even deny the father the right to a paternity test just because his name was on the birth certificate to them it's like if the man had accepted to adopt the child even if he didn't know which is beyond messed up for me there should be ZERO Reason to deny a paternity test and if the courts don't want to give it then it should just be straight up done BEFORE he signs that birth certificate which is 99% of the time at birth they already testing the baby for a million other things what's one more test and the most important one at that? If it comes back as his then yay if it doesn't then at least the man has a choice to either leave or choose to adopt and stick around which I'm sure there will be plenty of men who will be happy to do so depending on the relationship and partner they have but regardless it should be equal choice to know not only that but that baby also deserves to know who their real daddies are.
I’m a woman I would have no problem taking the test married or single. Include it in regular testing. I’m with Adrienne on this
Exactly
I do think that this should be a standard procedure for all hospitals to follow. It should be by default. There are also scenarios where the nurse handover the wrong baby to the wrong parents.
@@tanalson great point.
I'm a woman and I agree.
I agree with Adrienne it's win win. To be Frank as a woman you SHOULD know where your "hoo-ha" has been but in these promiscuous times alot , unfortunately, don't or can't keep track. As a woman I would be 3000% ok with taking a test and the women who aren't ok with that I'm def giving them the side eye 👀👀👀. Like, what you got to hide girl?!?!?!
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right . thats like when they make a guy take a lie detector test to see if theyve cheated and the guy says no you don't trust me and they get mad. If I Know I haven't cheated I would be quick to take one just to make them feel stupid.
Yep
I totally agree
@@jgibson8092 well lie detectors aren’t always accurate. They’re not even admissible in court. If someone is cheating, just get clean evidence as that would be indisputable.
Loni's argument makes no sense.
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣 To me a paternity test is important for health reasons. If you have been doing the nasty with multiple people that's on you but the child and man should know the truth 💯 🤷
None at all. Is she just disagreeing to add a dissenting voice? Cuz....her argument of stigamatizing the woman by demanding a pat test...is ludicrous. If you're trying to pass a baby off as belonging to someone it doesn't then stigamatization is the natural consequence you bring on yourself. If the baby is the person's you say it is? Where is the stigma? And secondly, some woman's hurt little feelings because she is asked to submit to a pat test does not compare to the tragedy of some poor man paying for years for a child that's not his, a child going thru life under a lie, and a dead beat dad getting away with being irresponsible. Nope. Loni missed the boat completely with this one. I'm an advocate for women because I am one but it doesn't blind me to the foolishness women do sometimes. There is no "support women no matter what" from this corner. Wrong is wrong man or woman.
@@charmcharm2352 thank you
No she is defending women who sleep around with multiple partners because she used to be promiscuous, but what’s that got to do with anything? Every man has the right to know if that kid is theirs, just like women would if the roles were reversed. Come to find out all that laundry you been doing and the kid isn’t even yours lol.
Agree w/OP. As Adrienne said, if these tests were mandatory/signed into law, then the "stigma" of it would be gone. It (with some time) would no longer be looked at as a question of the mother's fidelity, but rather just a norm. At the end of the day, regardless of couples being in "committed relationships and/or marriages" or not, a paternity test will just confirm who the father is for the multiple reasonings provided all over this comment section (health, heritage, etc.). If no one is stepping out, then it's no big deal and nothing to be worried about....the mother should then have an attitude of "who cares". If the baby daddy is not who is thought to be true and blue, then yeah that would be outing the mother, but that'll be for just a moment compared to the lifetime of the true father knowing, as well as the child.
I know a man who was married and raised his ONLY biological child and loved and supported that child. He got divorced, but continued to raise his daughter. When is daughter was in her late 20's he found out that his ONLY biological child was not his biological child. That tore that man apart but he continued to love and care for her and his grandchildren. So yeah even if they are married the DNA test should be mandatory!!!! The woman knows for sure that is her child because she pushed it out, the man should be able to have that same reassurance!!! DNA protects EVERYONE, mother, father and child!!!
Damn. Smh I agree that they should be mandatory 👏🏽👏🏽💯💯
That’s absolutely crazy I would have been cutting everybody off
That's it. That's all, it protects everyone, there is zero downside to mandatory testing, its not dangerous, it's not harmful, its painless
Damn smh
Wow. So sad. If he had known maybe he would have tried having a kid with another woman. Now his lineage ends and the woman is not held accountable. Sad.
It's not just about the stigma of Females. It's about the child and the child deserves to know. There are way too many people out there in the world who doesn't have a clue that the father they grew up knowing is not there biological farther and when they find out it takes a toll on their mental health. So I 100% agree that there should be a paternity test done at birth.
I always looked up to my mother as the smart educated one in the fam. Mom admitted to us as a teens that my brother and I had different dads. It hit him differently and he hasn’t treated me like his “sister” since. He also struggles with identity issues. He found out his dad was African and “out there some where” boy-o-boy. To go from being Afro-American to Nigerian… having more a a precise identity... is a mind f--. And.. the father he always knew as Dad wasn’t even his blood. AND my dad didn’t know.. i had to tell him. Good lawd. GET A TEST. The adults should know, and the child(ren).
@@ms.hjohnson6820 Don't look upto your mom because she is a cheating bich. Because she tricked a guy for a decade. Such acts deserves prison sentence.
All involved parties deserve to know*
30% of DNA paternity tests nationwide turn out to be negative Of all the possible fathers who take a paternity test.
Lonie is just trying to be politically correct on every single topic. This isn’t even a debate, if someone has to be responsible for a child it should be confirmed that it’s their child.
Exactly
Exactly.. its that simple.
No one wants to acknowledge that women sleep around😭
Exactly, but yet don’t mind letting it be known everywhere especially on social media that they want to enjoy hot girl summer or twerking in somebody’s face etc. All of a sudden impending motherhood makes them saints. I’m a woman myself, let’s call it how it is
This isn’t about women or “stigma” it’s about knowing who the father is and letting them know as well. Some women want everything to go their way, the same way men don’t have a say on whether or not a woman gets an abortion is the same way a man should know whether or not the kid is his whether they decide to be present or not. As a woman I’m sure you’d know if you’ve been sleeping with other people or not, but there are a ton of extenuating circumstances like a drunken one nighter where you think you used a condom but it broke, or somebody that travels for work and is barely in the same state or someone sleeping with multiple people but claiming to know the baby is someone specifically cause they just know. It’s not fair to the kid nor the dad for women to “just know.”
Agreed.
Thank you. Some ppl just want to die on a hill that they know is a losing battle.
Exactly, this is just a convenient excuse "I know" bs because well...most women have something biologically called "the ability to bear children" so of course they know, whereas men don't have some extra sense (like how lions scent their cubs) to know IF this kid is his.
The ones that argue about this test are on my highest suspicion list tbh.
Whoever that lady is talking about stigma is just disgusting. She doesn't care about anyone but women. The child needs to know who both of their parents are for better or worse.
I agree with adrienne, if it’s a law and everyone has to do it then there really isn’t anything offensive or shameful about it.
Also if women have been sleeping around with multiply dudes around the same time, i dont see why they feel ashamed about taking it. If you’re sleeping around, you know the risks, and if you care about your kids don’t you want them to know who their real dad is? Why should a kid have to go through life not knowing his real dad just because you feel ashamed, it makes no sense to me
If the woman knows that she will feel ashamed/embarrassed, then don't sleep around. Women should have a habit of having only one lover and partner throughout their lifetime.
Because those women want to choose the man who raises the child.
This law is only unfavourable to women who sleep around, get pregnant by a deadbeat Chad, and want to pass of the child as someone else’s.
@@tanalson ikr like why should the man be held liable for his partner sleeping with other people smh. You can be promiscious but don't drag him into being the father and lie to his face.
I swear fathers aren't treated on the same level of respect as mothers. Its just sad.
Loni makes no sense in this segment. I'm with Adrienne all the way. Married or not, mandatory paternity testing would change the stigma cause it's straightforward across the board and it is a win win situation...
loni does not know who her father is, lonis only sibling, her brother, also does not know for sure. so dont judge her, her view may be shaped by her experiences
I agree her argument makes absolutely no sense. And yes, her own personal life may shed some light on helping me understand why her views are what they are . It doesn't mean though that I cant disagree with with them. There is no judgement on her personally. Just a disagreement with her views.
@@marykay7878 who is judging her? And the fact that neither her or her brother know who their father is should be a a huge reason why paternity should be mandatory.
Exactly 👏🏽👏🏽💯💯
If my ex husband asked for a paternity test I would happily give him one with no questions asked. I have seen too many men raise children that are not his.
Exactly
The child is also a human being, has rights to know their biological parents,their roots, family ,heritage..
We seem to only think of parents involved,their stigma/shame and how much the father supported the wrong kid for years...we do not think of the effect on the child...
This right here ! 👏👏👏👏
Exactly
Smart comment
And medical reasons e.g predisposition to certain illnesses as well as compatibility in cases of transplants etc.
For me, it's all about the child knowing who they come from.
It definitely should be mandatory tbh 💁🏽♀️ What stigma? The world doesn't need to know, just the mother, the father, the child, ya doctor and ya lawyer. 🤔
Exactly
I think loni is just playing devils advocate because what she says makes no sense
Seem she has already put a baby on a n!??@ days why she jiving so hard
its because she's black
here are some facts
#1 black men are accused of being #1 deadbeats by black women
#2 in the u.s there are more black men than black women
#3 most black women age 16-25 have 2+ kids
#4 most black men age 16-30 have 0 kids
#5 most black women ONLY date black men
black women only date a small amount of black men and ignore the rest hence why the small amount of black men that do have kids avg 5+ kids
here are some more facts
#1 black women have an hatred towards nice black men
#2 black women are extremely aroused by degenerate black men
#3 black women obsess over the idea of trying to convert a ex con
#4 black women are sex crazed so they only want men with 8+ inch
#5 the amount of men with 8 inches is 2%
and i can go on and on with more facts that prove black women only date a small amount of men
No, she didn't at all sound like she was playing. And correct what she was saying made no sense.
Loni is missing the point that when it becomes mandatory, the stigma against women goes away. Also there is only a stigma of the woman has more than 1 sexual partner. If a man is going to be paying child support, he has a right to know. And a GOOD woman will want to make SURE the right man is held responsible… both the married and unmarried. The reason a woman would be worried about a “stigma” to begin with is because of her pride. I say, check the pride. Let the man know if the baby is his or not. And if you want to prevent this situation in the future (assuming the bill doesn’t pass) then tread responsibly.
Lonnie is a feminist thats why lol
A paternity test should absolutely be mandatory because at least 30% of fathers are raising kids that aren't theirs. Also, loni's argument that she is not for mandates bc she doesn't want women to be stigmatized for having multiple partners makes doesn't hold up, bc is the test was mandatory like A said the stigma would go away. Furthermore, there is a reason why there is a stigma for women who have multiple partners bc if and when they get pregnant it sets the child up in a bad position to know who the father is. Plus this mandate would help break generational curses of kids growing up and not knowing who the dad is bc the moment they're born they would know for sure who both parents are.
Damn 30% ?? That’s is high! I think it’s probably even higher
30% thank god i made the decision to stay single for life at young age of 18
@@gayallah2397 I’d like to clarify something.
People who take paternity tests have reasons to do so. They already know something’s fishy about their partner.
Let me give you an example: imagine 100 people had unprotected sex and they decide to take an HIV test and 30% come back positive. Does that mean that 30% of the general population has HIV? Surveys and studies say that around 1 to 3 percent of fathers are raising kids that are not theirs.
@@Love-yp2fj well either way single life is the best
EXACTLY!!! Loni has exposed herself. Women like her are absolute garbage. That mindset is the epitome of toxic femininity
100% yes it should be mandatory. I just recently saw a story on Facebook about a dude who found out the kid he was raising wasn’t his biological. The funny thing is he only found out because the mother tried to put him on child support.
Wow smh. Craziness
Thousands of talk shows have shown us that many mommas insisted that a baby belonged to one man but turned out to be another. I've always said that there should be a law passed where no man should sign a birth certificate until a DNA test is done! This will cut out a lot of potential heartache and pain for not only the parents but a child, who may later find that the one they thought was the biological father, isn't.
I am all for it. A child and fathers deserve to know🤷🏾♀️
Hell Yeah They Should!!! I Ain't Raising No Kid That Ain't Mine
Preach
Yes it should be mandatory marriage don’t exclude you from not knowing or cheating
Exactly
Agreed. Married or not
I don't agree if you are not married... if you aren't married they can't force you to get one
Make it required when filing the birth certificate.
In my culture (m from southern Africa) we have a saying which says (when roughly translated) 'a child is only known by his/her mother' meaning only the mother knows who their child's father is. I agree that paternity tests should be as mandatory, for the sake of everyone involved; the child, mother and father. There are people that only learn when they are in their fifties that the man they thought was their father is not really their father.
It’s everywhere only the mother knows the father of her kid.
In the South (USA) we say the same thing. It goes like this "Momma's baby, Daddy's maybe."
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Everyone says that, mama's baby daddy's maybe.
Hell, a lot of the time, these women don’t even know who the father is. Watch any random episode of Maury lol
What’s the confusion here? If the role was reversed and somehow we didn’t know who the mother was, wouldn’t mothers want to know the kid they are raising is theirs??? Men have a right to know if they are the father and then they can take the next steps, it’s their right. Loni is always defending women who are promiscuous, some women lie about the kid being theirs so men need to know. The law is on the side of the child. This shouldn’t even be a topic.
Maternity test are unnecessary! The doctor, nurses, midwives, and mother herself will definitely state "That baby came out of this womb!"
Childbirth and Labor are HUGE deals!! No woman is ever going to deny experiencing it!!
Norrya Parsa it’s not about denying the child in the womb, yes that’s confirmed that there’s a child in the womb and then he’s born. The issue is who put that child in the womb? Men have a right to know if they are the father or not. Stick to the topic.
@@1afgBeauty Well now it should be clear that, "It works both ways!"
Women AND Men should be proactive in who they choose to have kids with!!
Paternity tests serve the purpose of validation NOT accusation!!
Norrya Parsa yeah, that’s the whole point.
@@NorryaParsa you must be a cheater.....
Paternity tests should be mandatory. Assuming the husband/boyfriend is the father like women don’t cheat. 😑 Not one child support payment should be sent until paternity is established.
It should be mandatory. There is no stigma, either you’re a woman who knows who the father is and wouldn’t care for a test OR you’re a shady woman who carelessly has sex with multiple people and don’t want the father to know for whatever selfish reason.
Yes. It takes away the stigma like Adrienne said, and it makes things easier for everyone. This will help kids out. It would be crazy to have some guy support you for years only to figure out that your Mom lied about who your biological Dad was.
Yes. It would protect guys against lying "baby mamas", as well as decent/truthful "baby mamas" against deadbeat dads who wouldn't be in the child's life because they don't have DNA proof. More than that, it would protect kids from being hurt in their teens or adult years because the guy that they think is their father actually isn't
I believe it should be mandatory because women feel they have a right to lay with anyone they want but what you don't have a right to do if you are engaging in sexual acts with multiple men is make your own determination of which man will be the father of your child and many women in these cases pick the best guy to say Hey this child is yours.
Exactly 💯💯👏🏽👏🏽
Yes I never looked at it like that but that's so true it is like the woman is Picking a father instead of going after the real father.
I always looked up to my mother as the smart educated one in the fam. Mom admitted to us as a teens that my brother and I had different dads. It hit him differently and he hasn’t treated me like his “sister” since. He also struggles with identity issues. He found out his dad was African and “out there some where” boy-o-boy. To go from being Afro-American to Nigerian… having more a a precise identity... is a mind f--. And.. the father he always knew as Dad wasn’t even his blood. AND my dad didn’t know.. i had to tell him. Good lawd. GET A TEST. The adults should know, and the child(ren).
Just triflin
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Damn I'm sorry to hear that
There are sooo many cases where a man has been raising a child for years and later down the line after they have built a strong bond with this child they find out it’s biologically not theirs. That can cause so much pain for that man and his family that were involved in the child’s life. Cause in some situations things will never be the same after that information is revealed. The mother might take the child and move far away. Then him and his family are deeply hurt. That is why I think a paternity test should be mandatory when the female goes to get her regular pregnancy check ups. Just save everyone involved the hurt and pain.
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Jordan Love That not all, the man has no legal rights to that child he is raising, none whatsoever. He will however have the legal financial obligation to that child.
How do you sleep at night knowing you’re doing some so wrong 😑 women can be cold sometimes.
You act like men don’t cheat too and have whole separate families
@@geekyboy6875 yeah but a man can’t deceive a woman into raising a kid that isn’t hers. This ain’t about cheating this about paternity fraud.
@@mrafroman4937 yea but men do avoid raising kids when they get women pregnant
@@mrafroman4937 many avoiding child support or claim women are hoes and etc to avoid child support this isn’t a law cause it’s gonna negatively affect rich men especially
@@geekyboy6875 a man should absolutely raise his biological kid. But not another man, s kid. Only if he wants.
Jeannie is heavy on that pregnant brain… “From 17 until 6” 😂😂😂
Well men have to make sure that they don’t spend their money on other men’s kids. Men Don’t sign that birth certificate without a paternity test even if you are married.
if you need a paternity test despite being married to the mother, then your marriage is in serious trouble already. if you suspect your spouse is cheating, she probably is
@@marykay7878 everything you said don’t make sense please married men have found out kids they were raising weren’t theirs after 20 years of marriage. There’s a rich millionaire white dude who found out the 3 kids he raised weren’t his biological after 23 years of marriage. So miss me with that trust BS. 😂
@@mrafroman4937 i dont disagree that women cheat on men and have kids that are not their husbands. but i am 100000 percent certain, if this is the situation, there were signs. i am sure people in their circle could tell. same with cheating husbands that have kids outside of their marriage. in all cases, the wifes later admit that they were shutting their eyes to all the red flags
@@marykay7878 just stop girl. When it comes to pregnancy only the woman knows the father of her kid. That’s why paternity test should be mandatory even if the couple is married. I mean if a woman don’t have nothing to hide it shouldn’t be a problem.
I have no problem with pat test across the board. I agree with ade, if it's mandatory then the assumption of distrust is removed. For marriages that are solid it would be no big deal.
Before anyone is required to provide financial, emotional or other support for a child that should 100% be confirmed by a paternity test. There are too many men being tricked into relationships and getting attached to kids that aren't theirs.
Mandatory please... and they should be easily available and affordable too please
Absolutely...
I think for the children and the father’s it should be required, I have seen the devastation of the father not being the father too many times. It impacts to many people not to know and too many are being held legally responsible for kids that are not theirs.
Or you can start having with condoms it would cut down the need for a test a lot cause u used pregnancy prevention
@@geekyboy6875 lol
It’s funny how Lonnie tries to justify her errors with comedy
Its a great idea. Loni is just speaking from an emotional standpoint. Let it be mandatory for everyone. Could even reduce people getting the wrong babies from the hospital. Test everybody before they leave the hospital.
But wouldn't this also cut down on all the men that randomly spread their seedlings everywhere they want and don't think about the consequence of a child being created because of it.
Good point since you are correct
One thing I want to touch on is you should know who your family is because of DNA. I am an adopted person and I have children now and it would’ve been so helpful to know what was in my DNA . I also think that everybody should have a 23 and me or ancestry test done to find out their true culture as well. Wouldn’t life be better if we could all just avoid confusion.
My mom is also adopted. She knows who her biological mother is, but that woman never wanted to admit to my mom who her father is.
And both my mom and her biological mother lived and grew up in the same town.
My mom was SO AFRAID that she could run into a guy, fall in love with him, marry and even procreate with him, only to find out that he is her close biological relative. Now, that would be very detrimental to the genetic health of her children, too similar DNAs have a tendency of increasing the probability of an error.
And for that reason, my mom left her hometown and married to my dad who lived and grew up in another part of the country.
And I lived in my father's hometown, then abroad, then I moved to my mother's hometown. And I have three kids. I am also afraid of the same risk, because we still don't know who my mother's father is. I must also teach my children to be cautious and to find their sexual partners from out of town, the farther the better.
It's very complicated for the CHILDREN not to be informed about the origin of their DNA, from medical, biological, genetic and all other reasons. I find it quite irresponsible to lie to your children about his/her father.
I totally believe that *PATERNITY TEST* should be *MANDATORY* because alot of these women are pinning children on men who are *NOT* the father. This would force many women to be honest and clear up alot of issues and heartbreak when these men find out years to decades later that the child(ren) is not theirs. Women who are opposed to this make me believe that they have secrets and lies they are keeping and don't want anyone to find out...
Why can’t people just stick to one person and be happy and if they don’t like the person just break up and move on with someone else. Cheating is the worst and making some dude form a bond, raise and financially support a kid that’s is really his is by far the most cruelest thing a person can ever do. All I’m sayin to the women who dis. Satan is waiting for y’all
@@madias1884 Many people want to have their cake and eat it too. They want the best of both worlds and don't think or care about how their actions affect others...
Bingo!
I find it sad that sometimes the kids suffer under the suspicion. I know of people who grew up mistreated, because the father wasn't sure if it was really their kid. Those people didn't deserve it.
A man do not have to step up for another man’s responsibility. so yes it should be mandatory. I ain’t raising a kid that ain’t mine.
I am soooo happy that people are at least discussing this ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I am 1000% on board with making it mandatory. The only ones who'd have an issue with it are the women who know their little games of pin the child on the false daddy are going to be OVER
I always say every baby should be DNA tested at birth. Married or not. Men and the child should be just as sure who the father is, just like we know for sure who the mother is.
I wholeheartedly agree
Lol not Loni saying they shouldn't do it if they're married 🤣 Majority of these shocking cases tend to be women that are married or in committed relationships. Stay deh
I love that Jeannie is finally happy with Young Jeezy
Every father needs to know. Loni there's no stigma in this one but accountability.
I agree with Adrienne 1,000,000,000%. It should just be mandated in the hospital after giving birth. I watch paternity court and babyyyyyyyy, a lot of women are out here lying to their husbands about who fathered their child. It's super scary to watch how many results come back, 10, 20, 30 years later that the husband or boyfriend was not the child's father after all. CRAZY!
I remember an episode of Maury where a woman confessed to her 22-year-old daughter, & the girl's father, that he may not be the father. A DNA test confirmed that he wasn't
If married women are lying and having kids from other men, then imagine how many men are being played who are not married to the woman.
definitly needs to be mandated, heck hospitals even have a charge on the bill for when the mother holds her baby they can certainly charge for the important paternity test
It DEFINITELY should be mandatory if the two adults aren't married and if you're married and still want one done that's fine and yall business. But if the parents arent married and the guy is the father I think the court should IMMEDIATELY put him on CS.
Exactly
I'm in love w this season >>
Loni, I don't want women to be stigmatized
Also Loni, goes in to stigmatize SMH
Right, she sounds like a whole ass clown
The woman on the left is obviously doesn't want her Babby daddy to find out....
EVERY SINGLE CHILD SHOULD BE TESTED!!!
It’s already a stigma out about us being hauxs so why not prove them they’re wrong
Exactly
here are some facts
#1 black men are accused of being #1 deadbeats by black women
#2 in the u.s there are more black men than black women
#3 most black women age 16-25 have 2+ kids
#4 most black men age 16-30 have 0 kids
#5 most black women ONLY date black men
black women only date a small amount of black men and ignore the rest hence why the small amount of black men that do have kids avg 5+ kids
here are some more facts
#1 black women have an hatred towards nice black men
#2 black women are extremely aroused by degenerate black men
#3 black women obsess over the idea of trying to convert a ex con
#4 black women are sex crazed so they only want men with 8+ inch
#5 the amount of men with 8 inches is 2%
and i can go on and on with more facts that prove black women only date a small amount of men
All that discussion and none of the ladies talked about the fact of a man paying child support for a child that he is not the father.
Loni is delusional with that opinion.
I think it’s most important for the child to know who their father is. They have every right to know. Why didn’t they bring that up??
It’s much less awkward to have a mandatory test than to have to ask your partner for one.
Yes DNA test should be mandatory. I was the child in the situation told one thing and that this one particular person was my father and come to find out AFTER doing AncestryDNA, my father is someone else that my mother completely forgot to mention. Women…if you’re sleeping with multiple people and you DECIDE to bring a child into that situation, at least have the decency to tell your child and the potential sexual partners that they may be a father. It’s unfair, selfish and trifling for any woman to think it’s okay to not know who got her pregnant. If you’re that ashamed then don’t go through with the situation at all. It’s stupid and does damage to kids even as adults. It took me 28 years to find out the truth and that’s embarrassing and says a lot about the mother than anything else.
Make it mandatory!
Loni: "stigma, stigmatized " what??lol what are you trying to say??? She just throws out words and has no idea how to explain it.
Both parents should take a test. Sometimes babies get switched at the hospital! You just want to make sure it's really your baby and not find years later that's not yours. It's not fair to the child or parents. These tests should be mandatory!
If the paternity test proves the man is not the father then the woman can do a DNA test to prove it's her baby. No need for both initially
“Do you know who yo baby daddy is?” 👀 Ugh 🙄
Amen.. we need to know
A woman always know the child is hers so man only knows what the woman tells them. So yes the test should be mandatory
I have no problem taking a test regardless and I'm married. Everyone involved should be sure of the paternity
Why is Loni acting like some women don’t have multiple sexual partners in the same time frame? If you’re sure it’s his baby just take the test.
Of course there are lames who will demand a test and use that to be controlling, manipulative, and condescending but it actually makes it less stigmatizing if everyone takes the test across the board. And it keeps men from not taking care of their kids because of the “that ain’t my baby excuse”
I think what Loni is implying is that the mother would feel threatened about who the father could really be. So they choose the candidate with the most stability cuz it saves them a lot of trouble. Not saying its the right thing to do, but a single mother with a baby daddy that is unemployed and a dud is not an easy life. Again, i dont think Loni was saying she was right. Also the stigma part about women sleeping with multiple men aint a good excuse like tf? Thats on you, it aint a stigma if its true
After watching (too many) episodes of #paternitycourt with #judgelaurenlake I would have to agree with Adrienne and Jeanie on this. "Mama's baby. Daddy's maybe." The trauma to the kids is just so unnecessary #protectthechildren. In my country, we have universal health coverage, so my main concern would be if it will be at an extra cost to the mother.
I think paternity tests should be mandatory you should know 100% who their parents are
I love Adrienne’s outfit! Where is it from?
After watching the Maury Show I have to saw it should be mandatory. I think both men and women can benefit out of it. There have been so many cases in the show where women know who the father of the baby is and they try to pinned it on someone else. The baby sometimes looks like the said "father" and guess what DNA test proves them wrong. While there have been so many cases were men still denied the baby even if DNA test proven they r true atleast now they r forced to pay child support. Plus there no stigma on it. Its like l u have to take paternity test on live TV.
Yes, absolutely! I'm a woman and I have seen women lie for financial reasons temporarily for it to not work out then run to the real father years later cause he came into money. He had a family and was never told of the child. The mother was jealous and only did it because her other choice went to jail. Yes, it should be mandatory. The hell with trust!
I feel like it should be, a woman knows without a doubt it's her child, this would give that same power to a man to know.
Woman need to be held accountable if you ain’t cheating then you have nothing to worry about
Hell yes it should be, I asked my daughters dad to get one because it happened to him with his first so-called daughter who he was on child support for who's now 23 and a mother. He didnt want to but I wanted him to not have any doubts at all.
At the hospital registering my sons birth a woman from the registration office asked my partner before he signed if he accepted paternity of the child or if he required a paternity test and he said no and signed but I gave her a disgusted look. I felt insulted...but after thinking about it. A lot of men have been looking after kids that aren't theirs and I KNOW my son is mine because I carried and gave birth to him but really a man can't be sure. As loyal as I've been he can't be 100% certain of that so afterwards I asked him if he wanted a paternity test and he still said no and it's never been mentioned again.
Your a good women. I hope the kid is his after all
The fact you had the audacity to get offended only thinking of yourself shows your lack of humility and how selfish you are.
30% of DNA test come back negative and in some states it's 40% mind you this data didn't include women that cheated but passed the DNA test so so this means that modern women cheat anywhere between 30-50%
And you have the audacity to get offended!!? This isn't about you!!men and kids should have the basic right to know . Women that are against it are a prime example of how disgustingly common machiavellianism is among modern women ever since women's sexual liberation due to the fact women's mental stability and ability to pair bond gets tarnished or permanently damaged the higher her body count.
Machiavellianism in psychology refers to a personality trait which sees a person so focused on their own interests they will manipulate, deceive, and exploit others to achieve their goals. Machiavellianism is one of the traits in what is called the 'Dark Triad', the other two being narcissism and psychopathy.
This is why only women are notoriously known to not take accountability, severely lacking humility and empathy towards men.
You don't think it's crazy that women say " that they'll leave if their boyfriend/husband asks for a DNA test "
So women would rather deprived the children out of a father than take accountability?
This is expected of narcissism they don't have a conscience not capable of true love not even their own children, modern women will manipulate and gaslight a situation even at the detriment of their own children
But hey " look at me I'm a modern woman I'm offended " rights for me but not for thee
Yes. Yes it should be mandatory
30% Of Paternity Test our negative let that sink in...
DNA paternity tests should be required by law.
No excuses and no exceptions.
The heck is she talking about? If you dont want to get stigmatized, then simply dont do the actions that get you stigmatized. Ha ing multiple partners is the basic reason why it's a stigma. The paternity test is simply there to accountability and to let the father know he is the actual father.
I wouldn’t mind it being mandatory. Wouldn’t you want your sons to know that their children are their children without a doubt. I doubt it will happen because the government wants you to take care of anybody’s baby before they have to from what I hear. There have been cases where ex boyfriends who played “fatherly roles” have been taken to court to pay child support. Apparently it’s quite common in Canada to have to pay for a child that isn’t yours. Would this be yet another reason not to date single mothers?
I know I went a little off subject but just explaining why it won’t happen.
You see how the slow one can’t even formulate words to comprehend the aspect of the argument and it’s trying to do a runaround the issue
It’s a win win situation!
I think having a law is important for the children (emotionally and medically), will maybe make people be more responsible when having sex with multiple people and insure that a man is not falsely taking care of a child that's not his. It only stigmatizes women if they are sleeping around. I agree there should be a law for sure, to reduce confusion and harm in the future.
Who's paying for the mandatory tests? Not me, not my taxes. Why should my husband and I be compelled to pay just because other couples have trust issues? We're not the ones with paternity doubt. If my taxes pay for every newborn to be paternity tested, then at least keep a database of everyone's DNA to help solve future crimes; help DNA match future fathers with their children; or use that data for improving healthcare and medical technology. Save me taxpayer money in SOME way.
I think not 100% I think they sell them over the counter. They are 99% accurate. I think there also free programs or figure out yourself due if u paid attention in biology class when they taught generics. For example u just have to know ur blood type and the baby blood type to know if it's true. I guess the whole issue is that there been situations were guys wanted to take the test and the woman has refuse or its the other way around. Even if they are willing to pay for it.
@@sailorsister211 yes blood type can exclude paternity but not determine paternity. My issue is that compulsory tests for everyone benefits ONLY the father. If my husband and I are going to be made to pay for a test we didn't ask for, at least let us benefit from it in another way. If the child needs financial support & uses public assistance, we taxpayers end up with the bill of both finding the correct father AND supporting the child in the meantime.
@@sailorsister211 also the man can force women to get a DNA test through court mandates, just like women can take men to court for paternity.
Are you kidding me? It'll be covered under the same things that whenever you go to the hospital and have a child it will be also be covered. A DNA test is literally like 1 to 300 bucks you don't care about some stupid taxes
Paternity test cost $50 at your local pharmacy. This procedure can be covered under insurance along with your other medical pregnancy cost. Similar to blood test, urine test, etc.
It’s about to be 2022. Times have clearly changed.
Paternity test is important - because there is child who want to know who is his/her father and for that man who silently worry the child may not be his.