Can you imagine, after enduring years of mental and physical abuse, completely ostracized by society and by self, finally coming to the realization (delusion) that you're actually above all of these people who tormented you so much, that you're a god among men and have power over life and death, only to have someone call you the Tooth Fairy?
Will Graham's comment about Francis in the book has always stuck with me: "As a child, my heart goes out to him. As an adult, he's irredeemable." I feel like that sentiment can apply to so many people - trauma profoundly shapes a person, but it's what you do with it that proves what kind of human being you are.
The thing is though, it is hard to imagine for a sane person the kind of destructive and compelling influence an insane mind may exert on someone afflicted. I don't think Francis was "merely" traumatized, since most traumatized people pull themselves up from it into normalcy again. His issue with Schizophrenia ran deeper and controlled him. How can one demand morals and ethics out of a person who is born to be unable to exhibit these abilities? It's like demanding a person born without legs to walk or run. That's not a defense of Francis' actions, and ultimately the world is a safer place with Francis being dead. He probably had to die, or at the very least be locked away from society forever. But at the same time, I think it's more fair to say that his condition was terrible rather than he being terrible. Had he been born without his mental deformity, things might've turned out differently. I think true evil comes more from those who are certainly born with the capacity and ability to lead good lives, but choose evil just to satiate some perverse urges or desires.
@@sevenproxies4255 one can lead a ''good life'' yet still fail and become an outcast or homeless drug addict or wage slave working themselves towards an early grave. if that's what you call a life then i choose evil
@@sevenproxies4255 his condition was indeed terrible, but killing him was doing him a service since he wouldn't have to listen to the voices again. Locking him up would basically be hell on earth: forever listening to the voices but being unable to do anything to quell them.
As I recall, the unflattering nickname was part of the same psychological warfare that got the journalist killed. They were hoping it would piss him off enough to do something stupid.
It just tracks better in a story. Making a big dragon into tiny flying around harmless fairy. Media not getting him that much is like ultimate disrespect in his mind. There is similarities both being a winged creature from imagination. Then again completely opposites of each other in many ways from size to purpose to whatever. Also you can just take just the fairy part and think him taking it as a disrespect alone.
I agree. Though, that's not to say that The Tooth Fairy name could still be applicable to a creepy serial killer, probably one who has some sort of emphasis on teeth, like ripping out some or all of his victims' teeth as trophies or the like.
Francis was a fantastic complimentary character to Hannibal. While Hannibal has full control of himself and does the things he does simply because he wants to. Francis is a man whom really just wanted to be loved but too much rejection and abuse fractured his mind.
I'd almost agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that the writers had to include the backstory to Misha, which I believed ruined this whole concept. Because, while both Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs do go into great detail about the pathologies of Francis and Jame Gumb, explaining what made them resort to their actions, with Hannibal's case what makes him work is that he DOESN'T really have a pathology, let alone is suppose to have one. Sure, his certain traits such as his distaste for discourtesy and being a very picky eater. But why Hannibal is a cannibalistic psychopath is never really explained or really even hinted at, in the original first two novels, which was THE WHOLE POINT. He was written as less of a fleshed out character and more of a manifestation of evil itself. Kind of like Judge Holden (Blood Meridian). Someone who's beyond logic or explanation, not a puzzle that can be solved, he just is who he is. Lines like, "The psychologists call him a psychopath, they don't know what else to call him. (Red Dragon)" and "He's not some kind of vampire. They don't have a name for what he is. (Silence)", were meant to sum up who Hannibal is. Therefore, trying to make Hannibal Lector on the same league as Francis and Jame, strips from Hannibal this disturbing ambiguity, contradicting the entire essence of his character.
His hands became rough. They weren’t a boys hands anymore. And the clothes he wears are something that a lawyer would select. He colour coordinates them to try to look bigger and taller, doesn’t he?
Then you're missing the point of how that name was given. He envisioned himself as The Red Dragon. Freddie Lounds nicknamed him the Tooth Fairy instead to anger him and throw him off. Because of this, Dolarhyde kidnapped, tortured, and brutally murdered him.
Francis's backstory sounds like something that an actual serial killer would've gone through as a child. I guess it makes sense that Thomas Harris based him off of a real serial killer much like he did with Buffalo Bill. On that note, when are we getting our Buffalo Bill video?
Considering how James Gumb is a mascot for transphobes I don't think it's a good idea. It would probably end up becoming Vile Eye's most political video. Don't get me wrong I think SotL is a great book and film I just hate the way that villain is used as a petty excuse to bully and kill vulnerable people in real-life.
@@slackerdenile8836 is it any different to how Travis Bickle was used by people like John Hinkley to justify the killing of John Lennon or the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan? There will always be someone or some group who are offended by a portrayal of someone because it hurts some group that they belong to. Some people are just looking for something to fight over.
@@slackerdenile8836 I think a video could work if VE discusses the transphobic element of Buffalo Bill’s portrayal and the cultural impact of the character. It could be like Lindsey Ellis’ video which briefly touches on him, but via the context of character analysis.
Thomas Harris can REALLY write convincing monsters. Love the book, the movie and show. I have seen manhunter, but it was like 25 years ago, I barely remember anything other than Tom Noonan being scary as hell.
Man hunter is at best an okay movie, but it has not aged well. There are so many 80’s cliches it’s cringe worthy, and some of the casting was off the wall. William Peterson was an excellent Graham, however. In the scene where he speaks to Lecter you see how on edge he is, trying to keep up a confident front while standing a few feet from the last person on earth he ever wanted to see again.
its worth re-watching...truly fantastic film...tom noonan's smile during freddy lounds scene is scary af... also he managed to sound alot like leonard lake the serial killer
@@rogerfurlong1535 I think Brian Cox can play a good villain, he just misinterpreted the role and tried to play him as a more down to earth, believable psychopath.
I loved the novel. That being said, two scenes from "Manhunter" are seared into my mind. Francis's reaction to Reba stroking the tiger. His expression is pure orgasm, seeing her acceptance and love for an apex predator. In the hotel when Will figures out that The Red Dragon has seen the films, his confidence, the inevitability, when he tells the evidence guy to peel back the label. Crawford reacts to Will with fear...and awe. Effing stunning acting! And the novel was not a page turner, it was a page burner. Compelling from cover to cover.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin I think it may be my favourite adaptation of the whole bunch, and that includes Silence of the Lambs. A lot of people criticise it for stripping back the novel to the essentials and not including some of the nuances, but I actually think it benefits the film in some ways, there was a reason they cut the Red Dragon tattoo for example, and I agree with that reasoning completely. Micheal Mann knew exactly what he was doing and he did a masterful job with it. Best Will Graham, best Francis Dolarhyde, and the best Hannibal -Lecter- Lecktor for my money, just slightly above Hopkins (who while I absolutely adore as Lecter doesn’t quite scare me as much as Cox’s more realistic and straight approach to the character) for me. And I don’t mind the changed ending that much either, the final climax is brilliant! If people really want to see the ending of the novel in a 1980’s film, then they should just watch the end of Dario Argento’s Opera because by his own admission he took it straight from (after apparently being frustrated by Manhunters ending) the Red Dragon novel haha!
Another banger from the one and only Narrating Eye of the Vold, The Vile Eye. And even tho I do somewhat sympathize/feel bad for francis, it still doesn't justify his personal delusion/madness.
Francis Dolarhyde is a tale of person who was born imperfect and the misery from the minds of others like his grandmother slowly turned him into a monster and that monster slowly consumed him until he meet someone who could've saved him from the Dragon's influence. But the damage was already done and in the end Francis was consumed by it. Another great video VE and my suggestions for the next video El Sueno from Wildlands Any FarCry villains
First Hannibal Lecter, now Francis Dolarhyde. You ought to make an analysis of Buffalo Bill and Mason Verger next! And maybe Vladis Grutas too. Thomas Harris is remarkably good at creating interesting and complex serial killer characters.
As a “Fannibal” before there was such a term, I agree. You can really tell the creators read the books. I love the depiction of Mason Verger, very accurate to the book and more clearly illustrates how much of a monster he is than the movie.
@@chronic4632 whilst I'm not gay, I get the story can look like that! It's not as simple as it being that and I don't actually think Will feels that way for Hannibal it's just Hannibal and his complexity where he lives Will so much because Will understands him! It's far more complex than them being "gay" it's about loving and understanding! Clearly you've not had such a bond and that's cool but don't take it for this when it's far more complex! Even Jack says to Ronaldo Patzi "who among us doesn't want understanding".
My compliments to you, another amazingly entertaining analysis. I was lucky enough to actually speak with Ralph Fiennes last year, telling him that his role as Francis Dolarhyde was amazing. He is truly a great actor. As for you Sir, please continue our entertainment for many years to come! All the best! A fan
His role as Amon Goeth (Schindler's List) was amazing, too. Holocaust survivors who had contact with the SS commandant noted that Fiennes reminded them of the real man back decades ago.
Yeah there's a lot of contention in the psychiatric field regarding the two terms, but the general consensus comes down to the nature vs nurture debate. Essentially, psychopaths are born while sociopaths are created, a product of their environment. Making them more prone to impulsive behavior and emotional outbursts, so yes they are capable of empathy, albeit very selective. Psychopaths are completely devoid of empathy altogether.
It's completely over the top in my opinion. I'm sure Ratner told him to camp it up, and camp it up he did. Noonan's performance is far more nuanced and interesting.
Been waiting for this one. One of the most morbidly sympathetic serial killers in fiction. The dynamic between Dolarhyde, Will Graham and Hannibal make this story one of the best of its kind, Manhunter being the best adaptation of it.
It was implied in the film that he either suffered from extreme depersonalization/derealization and/or full blown borderline personality disorder.. So I don't know if I would call him evil, though his actions certainly were.
@@artimussantiago4779 have you ever met someone that's criminally insane? Mental illness sucks. It can turn someone into a monster.. Obviously, you have to look at all the particulars, but I feel that this individual was definitely criminally insane.
People who try and hide their crimes can’t pull the insanity card in most cases in my opinion. Either you know it’s wrong or you don’t. Either you hide it because you know it’s wrong or you don’t because you don’t think you’re doing anything to be punished for. We all deal with urges of all kinds, my current urge being how delicious cinnamon rolls are, but even with something that mundane I can’t say it isn’t my fault if I grow a huge ass from eating too many. I know it’s wrong, I know there are consequences to my actions. Silly example but from the characters perspective, he had the urge to commit these crimes and let that urge win out over his conscience. And tried to hide the crimes. That’s what can be so fascinating about criminals, and I think as a society we want to blame something we can’t control because the idea it can be controlled but people do it anyways is really the true thing to fear. What a great movie. And Edward Norton is always a treat.
The book (the true first Hannibal Lecter story, not SOTL) was amazing and creepy. I liked SOTL, but it just repeated the same formula from Red Dragon. Francis Dolarhyde was a great villain and Ralph did am amazing jon with him.
Thomas Harris is a genius. I loved the Hannibal movies growing up, and Hannibal rising was the first novel I purchased and read as a kid because I couldn't wait for the movie to come out. Rising was dissappointing, and out of Harris' other books, Red Dragon is the only one I read. I read Red Dragon at least three times, but I'm saving the others because I know Thomas Harris didn't write much and won't write again.
I loved reading Red Dragon. Francis was a much better and more interesting villain to follow then Buffalo Bill was. I love all the adaptations in their own way.
what strikes me is his duality. its the standard jekyll and hyde dynamic. a sordid little hobby, but a very different person nervously parades in public. It reminds me of one of the most curious sayings in terms of its logic "you aren't being yourself"
An underrated and truly evil character that is personally one of my favorites due to his terrifying and well developed nature. He may be a shy boy, but he's absolutely a bold character in storytelling.
This is one of the best channels I have watched! thank you for all the great content! A character that would be cool to see in a upcoming video would definitely have to be Naraku from Inuyasha
Suggestions for more villains for Analyzing Evil * The Governor from The Walking Dead (TV show or comics) * Moriarty from Sherlock * Darkseid from The DCU * Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance * Cersei Lannister or Gregor Clegane from A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones * Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 * Johan Liebert from Monster * Vicious from Cowboy Bebop * Sephiroth from Final Fantasy * Gendo Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion * Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus from the Spider-Man Trilogy and the MCU * Bowser from Super Mario Bros * Light Yagami from Death Note (Anime and manga) * Hans Gruber from Die Hard * Imhotep from The Mummy (1932 or 1999) * Frankenstein's Monster from Frankenstein (Mary Shelley's novel or the 1931 film) * Rebecca "Revy" Lee from Black Lagoon * Lelouch vi Britannia from Code Geass * Albert Wesker from Resident Evil * Aku from Samurai Jack * Henry Lee Lucas from Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer * Jason Voorhes from Friday the 13th * Nylarthotep from the Cthulhu Mythos * Lord Ozai from Avatar: The Last Airbender * Noatak/Amon from The Legend of Korra * Jacobim Mugatu from Zoolander * DIO from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure * Clarence Boddicker from RoboCop * Homelander from The Boys (2019) * The Onceler from The Lorax (novel and animated special) * The Grinch from The Grinch (animated special and live-action film) * Homura Akemi from Puella Magi Madoka Magica * Shere Khan from The Jungle Book (Disney) * Magneto from the X-Men Films * Gozer the Gozarian from Ghostbusters * William Afton from Five Nights at Freddy's * Kilgrave from the MCU * The Ice King or the Lich from Adventure Time * Lord Voldemort from Harry Potter * The Other Mother from Coraline * Clay Puppington from Moral Orel
. I have only seen 3 of these movies. I guess I don't get around the human's entertainment very much. The only one I respected on your list is Hans Gruber. I did like Nurse Ratchet and the guy, Doyle, who got whacked in Slingblade. I prefer watching documentaries, and movies, about real killers like Stalin, Hitler, and the zillion others down through bloody, brutal, human history.
I get so extremely excited when Vile does a video on a character I enjoy. I almost screamed out of joy when I saw this one. I once again wanna recommended Bill Foster/D-FENZ from the movie Falling Down for analysis.
I took Francis' "Love" towards his grandmother as an ironic mislabeling of the emotion of hate rather than an honest misunderstanding of what "love" is
Excellent work. The only detail I think you missed, and something that I always found interesting, was that the families Dolarhyde killed had the exact same structure as his mother's family excluding him; a mother, a father, two sons, and a daughter. I always interpreted that as him thinking that the people he needed to kill had to be, what was in his mind at least, a "perfect" family. To me at least, it felt like another manifestation of his trauma. Also, neither here nor there, but Tom Noonan has always been easily my favorite portrayal of the character. Even though I don't really think any of the adaptations of 'Red Dragon' have properly lived up to book, 'Manhunter' is easily my favorite because it has the best Will Graham, a very effective Francis Dolarhyde, and so much tension and atmosphere you can drown in it.
"He wasn't born a monster. Nobody is." As true as this is, it really makes me long for the time of John Carpenter's Halloween. Just once in a while I'd like to root against someone who was born bad instead of being moulded into a monster by trauma and abuse :(
@@zer0_iz_d34d No, I really did not. As I said above I preferred the 'simple unapologetic evil for no reason' rather than molding him into a victim so that we root for the serial killer. A common theme in RZ movies, actually.
That would be interesting, as well as a separate video on Billy Costigan, a good guy forced to do acts of brutal violence to ultimately bring down a force of pure evil, Frank Costello.
And, Frank Costello would be a great subject, as it’s easy to write him off as evil and profoundly amoral, given an early scene where he shoots and kills a man and a woman and then laughs because the woman “fell funny.” BUT, clearly Costello has some sense of morality given his interaction with the priests and his anger over the abuse of children by the clergy. Maybe that’s where it all started for Frank, abused by someone he was supposed to trust, a person held up as a pillar of the community. Perhaps he dealt with all the pain by becoming desensitized, not only to his own suffering but to the suffering of others.
@@dasky17 a little off subject but does anybody know why they gave Nicholson the name of a real famous mobster Frank Costello spelled exactly the same? Seems kinda lazy, that's like making a movie about a musician and naming him Phil Collins but not the real Phil Collins, the movie character just happens to have the same name. You think they would just choose any other name to avoid confusion?
EXCELLENT BREAKDOWN!!!!! I've thought about you doing one on this guy,, and it's a VERY pleasant surprise that you've actually done it!! GREAT JOB MAN!!!👍
1) Fantastic job you did with this one, as per usual. 2)Just to give you some of the less popular suggestions to cover: - Kevin from M. Night Shyamalan trilogy (aka "the beast"); - Mr. Glass from Unbreakable and Glass; - Percy Wetmore from Green mile (either him or wild Bill); - Walter Sullivan from SH4; - Claudia Wolf from SH3; - Bane from The Dark Knight Rises; - Eric Killmonger from Black Panther; - Magneto from the X-men series; - Lee Woo-jin from Oldboy; - Niander Wallace from Blade Runner 2049; - Alejandro from Sicario; - Bill from Kill Bill; - Captain poison from Blood Diamond; - Clyde Shelton from Law Abiding Citizen; - Tyrell Wellick from Mr. Robot; - The Yellow King from True Detective; - William D. Fosters from Falling Down; - Sweeny Todd from The Demon Barber of Fleet Street; - Harvey from The Lovely Bones; - Bruce Robertson from Filth; - Raoul Silva from Skyfall; - Orochimaru from Naruto (either him or Pain); - Gendo Ikari from NGE; - Ladd Russo from Baccano!; - The Major from Hellsing Ultimate; - Knives from Trigun; - Father from FMA: Brotherhood; - Mother Gothel from Tangled; - Lord Shen from KFP 2;
I was waiting a long time for this video, I love Hannibal's books and your video was incredible. I feel that each adaptation has given its part regarding who Dolarhyde is, but in my case, my favorite adaptation will always be Manhunter, maybe the size of Tom Noonan helped a lot to make Francis look intimidating. If he had trained his muscles before the movie, he would certainly have given the character much more power. I would have loved to see the Red Dragon tattoo that they prepared for him but never used, it's a shame.
I always felt like, if Francis could have waited - held back the Dragon a little longer, until he met Reba - he may have been in the clear, and may have enjoyed a normal adult life, or as normal as anyone has. It’s a tragedy - for the people he hurts and himself. I normally don’t pity the killer, but in this case Harris did a great job making him very understandable, if not entirely sympathetic. Nice video
Yeah he was written to be huge. But with what I know ab bodybuilding now Ralph Fiennes body is actually not bad for a natural bodybuilder of his age. Though the book wrote him like he was a IFBB pro with muscles everywhere
Found this series a couple weeks ago and binged the whole series over that time. Loving these videos. Hopefully you eventually do a study on Handsome Jack from the Borderlands series. He's one of my favorite villains in media.
Keep the good work by making such amazing videos. Here are some suggestions for future videos: -Voldemort from the Harry Potter series -Johan Liebert from Monster -Light Yagami from the Death Note manga and anime -Eren Yeager from the Attack on Titan manga and anime
JOHAN!!!!!!!!! Monster is one of the best stories ever. I never read the manga but ive watched the anime multiple times. Johan will give even the hardest souls the ceeps
Amazing idea but that probably won’t happen unless Blood Meridian gets an adaptation, which is never going to happen, or if Vile Eye starts covering literary only villains.
I ve always considered him a knockoff Hannibal. If you think about it, their personalities are quite similar. Reserved, intelligent men malformed by childhood traumas. Always polite and calm, manipulating everyone around them to have a front row at the show of human degradation. Their dynamics w the protagonist are similar as well. Trying to amuse themselves and corrupt the pure at the same time.
@@fedorgalkin5018 I haven't watched silence of the lambs in a while but I know Johan is no knock-off evil psychopath. Regardless, I would still like to see an analysing evil episode on him, considering how he doesn't get much love as a villain.
as far as I remember Johan never had any traumatic experience first hand but it was his sister I supposed who witness all the experiments and give the account to his brother, Johan till the end remain enigmatic character his motives are subtle shown so his madness but it's being too long since I watch it so I have forgotten much details.
I was just thinking about suggesting a character analysis of Francis to your channel today. And to my very happy surprise, I just opened youtube to find this on the top of my feed. Liked before watching just for the pure coincidence of it.
Love your analysis of all these villains, including ones that I'm not necessarily familiar with myself. Given that No Way Home home came out, I'd be curious to see a video of Dafoe's Green Goblin, since most people would consider him the best Spidey villain, and a possible contender for best MCU villain.
That would be an amazing plot to see, a movie that gives the message that is not impossible to become a better person despite the traumas received in life, i'ts a great message to send.
Watch "A Clockwork Orange". The British release of the book (not the American version) has an ending more fitting to an evil person becoming rehabilitated....
They’ve already done that and it helps nobody who has suffered. An audience for that narrative consists of the same people ironically wanting the sufferer to fit into a socially acceptable box that can no longer hold the blood and bulging bruises from the beatings. Better to just let the pain and trauma out and let the world see its terrible work.
I think it's so interesting to look at how throughout his life Francis was constantly emasculated by the people around him. The nickname from the orphanage, his grandmother's threats of castration and forcing him to sit down to use the bathroom, the tooth fairy nickname. That emasculation reflects the homophobia of the society Francis was raised in, homophobia that's also reflected in his encounters and infatuation with both Will and Hannibal. Great video! I'll be doing my own video essay on him and posting it soon 👍
I would add on and say homophobia is not only “reflected in his encounters and infatuation with both Will and Hannibal”, but also his crimes against women. He was also a serial rapist and necrophile, and considering his history of abuse, lack of interaction with the opposite sex beyond that “I’ll show you mine” event as a child, etc. He used rape/sex/transformation against women as a sad attempt to reclaim power he felt he never had as himself. His family and those orphans really did a number on him smh
Perhaps it was his choice of victims? The ritual involved? The OCD planning to lead up to the kill? The voices he heard in his head? He was built like a beast (in the books at least)? He writes secret admirer letters to Lecter? Did I miss anything?
I would love to hear your thoughts on these characters... Percy Wetmore and Wild Bill from "The Green Mile". Blanche and Jane Hudson from "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? " Randall Flagg from "The Stand" Greg Stillson from "The Dead Zone" Mrs. Camody from "The Mist" Alex Forrest from "Fatal Attraction" Henry Bowers from "It" Rhoda Penmark from "The Bad Seed" Harry Powell from "Night of the Hunter" Nino Brown from "New Jack City" Nina Myers from "24" Joan Crawford from "Mommie Dearest" Gollum from "The Lord of the Rings" Tyler Durden from "Fight Club" Cersei Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon, Littlefinger, Tywin Lannister, and Ramsey Bolton from "Game of Thrones" King Edward I aka "Longshanks" from "Braveheart" The Governor, Alpha, and Negan from "The Walking Dead" Gus Fring and The Salamancas from "Breaking Bad" and "Better Call Saul" Kilgrave from "Jessica Jones" Joe Goldberg from "You" Keyser Soze from "The Usual Suspects" Francie Brady from "The Butcher Boy" Dwight Hansen from "This Boy's Life" Betty Wendell from "THEM" Delores Umbridge from "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" John Ryder from "The Hitcher" Grandmother and Mother from "Flowers in the Attic" Carl Stargher from "The Cell" Barbara and Carol Denning from "OITNB"
Well, he did Tyler Durden & Alex Forrest, but, I, too, am DEFINITELY waiting on Carl Stagher! I love "The Cell" so much, I own it. I've only been able to watch it 3x tho. It's just too scary for me..I can see why D'Onofrio has distanced himself from it!!
I remember reading a short article where he talked about Voldemort. He was skeptical about taking the role but his kids urged him to do it, and that when he went to his first wardrobe fitting “something just happened the first time I put on that cloak.” He also said that sometimes there were children on the set, and they always gave him a wide berth. “I once walked past the son of a script supervisor and he burst into tears. I felt very proud of myself.”
This really is one of my top five channels on UA-cam. Your analysis is meticulously researched, explained in a very accessible, educational and entertaining manner. As you lay out each piece of information gleaned from the multiple sources you deem pertinent we FULLY SEE the character as close to a real person as a fictional character can be. Your analysis reminds me of my time in highschool and college on the debate team. You build your case one brick at a time, leaving a solid and almost perfectly constructed edifice in place. Your audience sees the character more fully, perhaps actually seeing the real nature of the character and seeing it completely, possibly for the first time. I find Francis Dolarhyde equal parts terrifying, and heartbreaking, a prisoner of very real demons that live on in his head, trapping him in hell the whole of his life. As a baby, his mother & hospital staff discard him, leaving a baby to slowly die of neglect, hunger, dehydration. Like Queen Mama later, this Black nurse takes potty on the baby, finding a way he can be fed without choking, even though the description of her interaction was more about practicality than affection. EVEN HANNIBAL LECTER seems to have some level of sympathy for Dolarhyde (as much as Lecter was capable of feeling any emotion), telling Will Graham, this monster was not born, he was made. It's what makes Red Dragon such a brilliant book. We're introduced to a monster who murdered entire families. How are we able to feel anything but loathing for a monster that murders children? Yet, Thomas Harris is a skillful author, and all the violence and loss can be layed at the feet of his grandmother foremost, and his mother. We are able to see a small boy, brutalized by everyone, loved by no one, and not even protected by the one person in the world he should have been able to rely on. He experiences hatred, ridicule, terror, disdain and worst of all, betrayal. It's no wonder he chooses to become a different being. He doesn't dream of being a strong and handsome man, he dreams of shedding the disgusting carcass of humanity and transforming, ascending to his destiny. He will metamorphose into the god-like Red Dragon. I've read the book, enjoyed the audiobook, watched Manhunter (the Michael Mann dramatization from the 80's), and the Edward Norton/ Ralph Fiennes movie, which I didn't care for either. Hannibal, the series was one of the best programs on TV, ever. Just going by the acting talent involved in a TV SERIES, not to mention the team behind the camera. It still makes me gnash my teeth that's were only had 3 seasons before this was cancelled. Anyway, the book is really the only place you can get the full story so you learn how the monster was made.
A villain that I would like to see covered on this channel is Pharaoh Ramesses from Prince of Egypt. I think he’s a great villain in a seriously underrated masterpiece. Prince of Egypt is my favorite dream works movie and I think Pharaoh is a great character that adds so much to the film. I think it’s also interesting to compare Pharaoh in the movie to how he’s described in the Bible. In the movie he’s evil but at least sympathetic in someways. In the Bible however not much is known about his character except that he’s described as very evil. By the way I really love your channel and I think your video about Hans Landa Is my favorite one. He’s just my favorite Quentin Tarantino villain and I think you did a really good job at flushing out his character.
You should do Cersei Lannister, Joffery Baratheon, or Ramsey Bolton from Game of Thrones. Of all the villians on that show these three were the most despicable. I just don't know which one deserves to be featured on your channel.
Actually, there is one person I can think of, from the Karate Kid trilogy, that is evil: Terry Silver, from Karate Kid 3. He's actually been added to the Cobra Kai series. If you decide to create an analysis of him, start with reviewing his character in Karate Kid 3 and then review his character in Cobra Kai.
Here since I happened to be looking for a clip of Kurtz and I found this gem of a channel with only 7k subscribers . Watched then and subscribed, and I’m very proud to see how much the channel has grown. Continue the great work brother , and thank you 👍🇮🇪
I think someone like Syndrome from "The Incredibles" would be a good one to analyze. People tend to get a lot about his backstory wrong (namely they claim Mr. Incredible said that you can't be a hero without powers when he never did) but there's a lot to the character all the same. For a character in a children's movie, he commits a LOT of murder and for what? What was his REAL motive? Who was he really?
Syndrome is a disturbingly accurate depiction of toxic fandom: He thought himself entitled to be Mr. Incredible's sidekick just because he was his biggest fan, but when Mr. Incredible rejected him and for a good reason, he got angry because his idol didn't do what he wanted.
This has got to be my favorite series in the whole of UA-camz! I used to study films in college. Mmmm. This reminds me of delicious essays. I remember scribbling away, furiously to films like "Gladiator" & "A Clockwork Orange". Happy years :) Ralph Fiennes, was excellent in this role! This film & his performance blew my mind as a kid.
It would be interesting to see Mr. Glass Analysed. The Horde is harder to analyse as you really don't get enough screen time with all the personalities. Mr. Glass seems better to analyse as he ended up creating the Horde (Unintentionally) and the Hero David Dunn.
Tom Noonan had the characters quiet, withdrawn abs tortured personality but nowhere near the physicality. Ralph Fiennes looked the part but he couldn’t portray Dolarhyde’s inner torment. Richard Armitage brought it all together.
Would love to see one of these on Mason and Bill, seeing as you've done both Hannibal and Francis also, still holding out hope you'll do FMA 2003's Envy someday, would really love to see that dude covered
I remember requesting an analysis on Francis earlier in the Analyzing Evil series and you didn't disappoint. I do hope you get around to Mason Verger, though there's another character not unlike Dolarhyde that I think you could cover: Mizoguchi from Yukio Mishima's The Temple of the Golden Pavilion.
In ever iteration of the films and show, casting was done so well. Loved every character in every iteration. Mads Mikkelsen was such a close second to Hopkins
I think we need a Stringer Bell analysis. His willingness to undermine, manipulate and harm those around him for the sole intention of capital gain is both chilling & captivating.
The first two villains in the movie "Manhunter" were never equaled or surpassed. They set the gold standard. In addition Michael Mann was the genius behind it all.
I thought Francis Dolarhde was terrifying at the end of Mindhunter cutting Will's face with the piece of glass in his hand then robotically throwing Will aside walking out of the room getting the shotgun blasting the ambushing cops at the door but in the book, he was built like a bodybuilder so he would be like the Terminator.
Can you imagine, after enduring years of mental and physical abuse, completely ostracized by society and by self, finally coming to the realization (delusion) that you're actually above all of these people who tormented you so much, that you're a god among men and have power over life and death, only to have someone call you the Tooth Fairy?
Ugh happens all the time!
😂😂
It was purposely done to piss him off.
@@thefrogandthescorpion lol.. Was kicked out the garden
@@matthewbennett1972 r/woooosh
Will Graham's comment about Francis in the book has always stuck with me: "As a child, my heart goes out to him. As an adult, he's irredeemable." I feel like that sentiment can apply to so many people - trauma profoundly shapes a person, but it's what you do with it that proves what kind of human being you are.
The thing is though, it is hard to imagine for a sane person the kind of destructive and compelling influence an insane mind may exert on someone afflicted.
I don't think Francis was "merely" traumatized, since most traumatized people pull themselves up from it into normalcy again.
His issue with Schizophrenia ran deeper and controlled him.
How can one demand morals and ethics out of a person who is born to be unable to exhibit these abilities? It's like demanding a person born without legs to walk or run.
That's not a defense of Francis' actions, and ultimately the world is a safer place with Francis being dead. He probably had to die, or at the very least be locked away from society forever.
But at the same time, I think it's more fair to say that his condition was terrible rather than he being terrible. Had he been born without his mental deformity, things might've turned out differently.
I think true evil comes more from those who are certainly born with the capacity and ability to lead good lives, but choose evil just to satiate some perverse urges or desires.
The books are all amazing.
For me it’s his last comments to Reba; “You didn’t paint a freak. You painted a man with a freak on his back.”
@@sevenproxies4255 one can lead a ''good life'' yet still fail and become an outcast or homeless drug addict or wage slave working themselves towards an early grave. if that's what you call a life then i choose evil
@@sevenproxies4255 his condition was indeed terrible, but killing him was doing him a service since he wouldn't have to listen to the voices again.
Locking him up would basically be hell on earth: forever listening to the voices but being unable to do anything to quell them.
Considering he bites his victims and attacks on a full moon, I’m kinda surprised the press didn’t call him “The Werewolf Killer” or something.
As I recall, the unflattering nickname was part of the same psychological warfare that got the journalist killed. They were hoping it would piss him off enough to do something stupid.
It just tracks better in a story. Making a big dragon into tiny flying around harmless fairy. Media not getting him that much is like ultimate disrespect in his mind. There is similarities both being a winged creature from imagination. Then again completely opposites of each other in many ways from size to purpose to whatever. Also you can just take just the fairy part and think him taking it as a disrespect alone.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 Fair enough, just from a non narrative standpoint, it seems more sensational, which the media would definitely go for.
I agree. Though, that's not to say that The Tooth Fairy name could still be applicable to a creepy serial killer, probably one who has some sort of emphasis on teeth, like ripping out some or all of his victims' teeth as trophies or the like.
@@jstampf6718 Yeah, THAT fits better.
Francis was a fantastic complimentary character to Hannibal. While Hannibal has full control of himself and does the things he does simply because he wants to. Francis is a man whom really just wanted to be loved but too much rejection and abuse fractured his mind.
people called me a spotty ugly cunt daily
acne is a bitch
@@nyxgoth did you get a full length back tattoo? Jk man sorry that happened to you? Children can be the f'n worst.
Dolarhyde and Gumb had a great contrast. Dolarhyde killed people to transform them, Gumb killed people to transform himself
I'd almost agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that the writers had to include the backstory to Misha, which I believed ruined this whole concept.
Because, while both Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs do go into great detail about the pathologies of Francis and Jame Gumb, explaining what made them resort to their actions, with Hannibal's case what makes him work is that he DOESN'T really have a pathology, let alone is suppose to have one.
Sure, his certain traits such as his distaste for discourtesy and being a very picky eater. But why Hannibal is a cannibalistic psychopath is never really explained or really even hinted at, in the original first two novels, which was THE WHOLE POINT. He was written as less of a fleshed out character and more of a manifestation of evil itself. Kind of like Judge Holden (Blood Meridian). Someone who's beyond logic or explanation, not a puzzle that can be solved, he just is who he is.
Lines like, "The psychologists call him a psychopath, they don't know what else to call him. (Red Dragon)" and "He's not some kind of vampire. They don't have a name for what he is. (Silence)", were meant to sum up who Hannibal is. Therefore, trying to make Hannibal Lector on the same league as Francis and Jame, strips from Hannibal this disturbing ambiguity, contradicting the entire essence of his character.
”-life with his grandmother came with it’s own set of severe disadvantages”
”What disadvantages?”
”She’s insane”
His hands became rough. They weren’t a boys hands anymore. And the clothes he wears are something that a lawyer would select. He colour coordinates them to try to look bigger and taller, doesn’t he?
The growth of this channel is staggering in just 2 years. Just shows how you've perfectly provided something that people want
It’s a nice little niche between true crime, psychology and something I cannot put my finger on. Agreed great channel.
Suscribed this year and its already one of my favourite channels
@@dawnguard6472 artistic dissection without being too pompous maybe?
Couldn’t have said this better myself this is one of the reasons I subscribed to his channel.
@@dawnguard6472 yep you said perfectly here.
As terrifying as Dolarhyde is, "The Tooth Fairy" has to be the least intimidating nickname for a serial killer ever.
Yep, which is why he hated the nickname so much.
Maybe that's why he sent Freddy Lounds rolling into the parking lot aflame....
Yeah true Tooth fairy is definitely not a good serial killer nickname.
@Greg Elchert yes now you are talking.
Then you're missing the point of how that name was given. He envisioned himself as The Red Dragon. Freddie Lounds nicknamed him the Tooth Fairy instead to anger him and throw him off. Because of this, Dolarhyde kidnapped, tortured, and brutally murdered him.
In the Red Dragon book Dolarhyde imitates his grandma's voice when he's in the Dragon personality.
Fffffff
👀 Bates vibes
@@eveninglyric687 true!
That is just creepy 😲
He does that in the movie too. He argues with himself about killing his lady and it's the dragon/grandma personality telling him to do it
Ralph Fiennes was born to play villains.
agree, and yet he also did an amazing job as the love interest in romantic comedy with J-Lo! goes to show how much of an amazing actor he is
Just not Dolorhyde.
He has been a good guy as well. You never seen schindlers list?
he should have been lifting for at least a year for this role tho tbh
@@guywithtrash231 he played the main villain in that movie ua-cam.com/video/d23Xd_Fx3Jo/v-deo.html
Loved Noonan's portrayal. But Fiennes does a great job with his interpretation.
@Aristotle was Not a fan of Plato mindhunter was a tv show
@@dante666jt okay… but he’s talking about Manhunter which is a movie.
Yeah he did an amazing job.
@@John.Handle oh sorry i misread manhunter as mindhunter
Tom Noonan acted his part properly. I blame the script and the time period Manhunter was made for any lack of Dolarhyde's portrayal.
Francis's backstory sounds like something that an actual serial killer would've gone through as a child. I guess it makes sense that Thomas Harris based him off of a real serial killer much like he did with Buffalo Bill.
On that note, when are we getting our Buffalo Bill video?
After... it rubs the lotion.
@@benwilliams5236 Or it gets the hose again.
Considering how James Gumb is a mascot for transphobes I don't think it's a good idea. It would probably end up becoming Vile Eye's most political video.
Don't get me wrong I think SotL is a great book and film I just hate the way that villain is used as a petty excuse to bully and kill vulnerable people in real-life.
@@slackerdenile8836 is it any different to how Travis Bickle was used by people like John Hinkley to justify the killing of John Lennon or the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan? There will always be someone or some group who are offended by a portrayal of someone because it hurts some group that they belong to. Some people are just looking for something to fight over.
@@slackerdenile8836 I think a video could work if VE discusses the transphobic element of Buffalo Bill’s portrayal and the cultural impact of the character. It could be like Lindsey Ellis’ video which briefly touches on him, but via the context of character analysis.
Thomas Harris can REALLY write convincing monsters. Love the book, the movie and show. I have seen manhunter, but it was like 25 years ago, I barely remember anything other than Tom Noonan being scary as hell.
Ditto 🙂 but I can't help remembering Brian Cox being awful
@@Samanthaweaver19866 Yeah he is the worst Lecter for sure. Great actor but the role wasn't right for him.
Man hunter is at best an okay movie, but it has not aged well. There are so many 80’s cliches it’s cringe worthy, and some of the casting was off the wall. William Peterson was an excellent Graham, however. In the scene where he speaks to Lecter you see how on edge he is, trying to keep up a confident front while standing a few feet from the last person on earth he ever wanted to see again.
its worth re-watching...truly fantastic film...tom noonan's smile during freddy lounds scene is scary af... also he managed to sound alot like leonard lake the serial killer
@@rogerfurlong1535 I think Brian Cox can play a good villain, he just misinterpreted the role and tried to play him as a more down to earth, believable psychopath.
I loved the novel. That being said, two scenes from "Manhunter" are seared into my mind.
Francis's reaction to Reba stroking the tiger. His expression is pure orgasm, seeing her acceptance and love for an apex predator.
In the hotel when Will figures out that The Red Dragon has seen the films, his confidence, the inevitability, when he tells the evidence guy to peel back the label. Crawford reacts to Will with fear...and awe. Effing stunning acting!
And the novel was not a page turner, it was a page burner. Compelling from cover to cover.
absolutely, red dragon may be my favorite novel of all time. totally brilliant in writing and pace
Glad to see someone else appreciate Manhunter.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin
I think it may be my favourite adaptation of the whole bunch, and that includes Silence of the Lambs. A lot of people criticise it for stripping back the novel to the essentials and not including some of the nuances, but I actually think it benefits the film in some ways, there was a reason they cut the Red Dragon tattoo for example, and I agree with that reasoning completely. Micheal Mann knew exactly what he was doing and he did a masterful job with it. Best Will Graham, best Francis Dolarhyde, and the best Hannibal -Lecter- Lecktor for my money, just slightly above Hopkins (who while I absolutely adore as Lecter doesn’t quite scare me as much as Cox’s more realistic and straight approach to the character) for me. And I don’t mind the changed ending that much either, the final climax is brilliant!
If people really want to see the ending of the novel in a 1980’s film, then they should just watch the end of Dario Argento’s Opera because by his own admission he took it straight from (after apparently being frustrated by Manhunters ending) the Red Dragon novel haha!
Another banger from the one and only Narrating Eye of the Vold, The Vile Eye.
And even tho I do somewhat sympathize/feel bad for francis, it still doesn't justify his personal delusion/madness.
Francis Dolarhyde is a tale of person who was born imperfect and the misery from the minds of others like his grandmother slowly turned him into a monster and that monster slowly consumed him until he meet someone who could've saved him from the Dragon's influence. But the damage was already done and in the end Francis was consumed by it.
Another great video VE and my suggestions for the next video
El Sueno from Wildlands
Any FarCry villains
Vaas!
First Hannibal Lecter, now Francis Dolarhyde. You ought to make an analysis of Buffalo Bill and Mason Verger next! And maybe Vladis Grutas too.
Thomas Harris is remarkably good at creating interesting and complex serial killer characters.
The show Hannibal will forever be my favorite iteration of this series. It was tailored to perfection and nobody could change my mind.
Didnt like how they ended up gay
As a “Fannibal” before there was such a term, I agree. You can really tell the creators read the books. I love the depiction of Mason Verger, very accurate to the book and more clearly illustrates how much of a monster he is than the movie.
It was gay
@@chronic4632 whilst I'm not gay, I get the story can look like that! It's not as simple as it being that and I don't actually think Will feels that way for Hannibal it's just Hannibal and his complexity where he lives Will so much because Will understands him! It's far more complex than them being "gay" it's about loving and understanding! Clearly you've not had such a bond and that's cool but don't take it for this when it's far more complex! Even Jack says to Ronaldo Patzi "who among us doesn't want understanding".
have you read the books?
My compliments to you, another amazingly entertaining analysis. I was lucky enough to actually speak with Ralph Fiennes last year, telling him that his role as Francis Dolarhyde was amazing. He is truly a great actor. As for you Sir, please continue our entertainment for many years to come!
All the best!
A fan
His role as Amon Goeth (Schindler's List) was amazing, too. Holocaust survivors who had contact with the SS commandant noted that Fiennes reminded them of the real man back decades ago.
Fiennes is definitely my favorite take on the character. This also reminds me, I need to watch Red Dragon again.
Yeah there's a lot of contention in the psychiatric field regarding the two terms, but the general consensus comes down to the nature vs nurture debate. Essentially, psychopaths are born while sociopaths are created, a product of their environment. Making them more prone to impulsive behavior and emotional outbursts, so yes they are capable of empathy, albeit very selective. Psychopaths are completely devoid of empathy altogether.
It’s free on Tubi streaming 11/27/22 for a few more days
keep in touch im the real red dragon
It's completely over the top in my opinion. I'm sure Ratner told him to camp it up, and camp it up he did. Noonan's performance is far more nuanced and interesting.
Unfortunately Norton is a poor Will GRAHAM in comparison to William Peterson
Great video again, two suggestions of mine are The Kurgan from Highlander, and Bob Ewell from To Kill A Mockingbird.
Brick Tamblin from Anchor Man...
Been waiting for this one.
One of the most morbidly sympathetic serial killers in fiction.
The dynamic between Dolarhyde, Will Graham and Hannibal make this story one of the best of its kind,
Manhunter being the best adaptation of it.
that poor guy was so messed up he had no control of what he was doing. he tried to stop himself and didn't want to be bad, but he had too.
It was implied in the film that he either suffered from extreme depersonalization/derealization and/or full blown borderline personality disorder..
So I don't know if I would call him evil, though his actions certainly were.
No control.. in what reality
@@artimussantiago4779 have you ever met someone that's criminally insane?
Mental illness sucks. It can turn someone into a monster..
Obviously, you have to look at all the particulars, but I feel that this individual was definitely criminally insane.
People who try and hide their crimes can’t pull the insanity card in most cases in my opinion. Either you know it’s wrong or you don’t. Either you hide it because you know it’s wrong or you don’t because you don’t think you’re doing anything to be punished for. We all deal with urges of all kinds, my current urge being how delicious cinnamon rolls are, but even with something that mundane I can’t say it isn’t my fault if I grow a huge ass from eating too many. I know it’s wrong, I know there are consequences to my actions. Silly example but from the characters perspective, he had the urge to commit these crimes and let that urge win out over his conscience. And tried to hide the crimes.
That’s what can be so fascinating about criminals, and I think as a society we want to blame something we can’t control because the idea it can be controlled but people do it anyways is really the true thing to fear.
What a great movie. And Edward Norton is always a treat.
The book (the true first Hannibal Lecter story, not SOTL) was amazing and creepy. I liked SOTL, but it just repeated the same formula from Red Dragon. Francis Dolarhyde was a great villain and Ralph did am amazing jon with him.
Thomas Harris is a genius. I loved the Hannibal movies growing up, and Hannibal rising was the first novel I purchased and read as a kid because I couldn't wait for the movie to come out. Rising was dissappointing, and out of Harris' other books, Red Dragon is the only one I read. I read Red Dragon at least three times, but I'm saving the others because I know Thomas Harris didn't write much and won't write again.
I loved reading Red Dragon. Francis was a much better and more interesting villain to follow then Buffalo Bill was. I love all the adaptations in their own way.
what strikes me is his duality. its the standard jekyll and hyde dynamic. a sordid little hobby, but a very different person nervously parades in public. It reminds me of one of the most curious sayings in terms of its logic "you aren't being yourself"
An underrated and truly evil character that is personally one of my favorites due to his terrifying and well developed nature. He may be a shy boy, but he's absolutely a bold character in storytelling.
Sadly, he is overshadowed by Buffalo bill
This is one of the best channels I have watched! thank you for all the great content! A character that would be cool to see in a upcoming video would definitely have to be Naraku from Inuyasha
One of my personal favorite fictitious evils. Absolutely horrifying insane, but strikingly competent and decisive.
Yep. He's the one I'd least want on my case, including Lecter.
Suggestions for more villains for Analyzing Evil
* The Governor from The Walking Dead (TV show or comics)
* Moriarty from Sherlock
* Darkseid from The DCU
* Senator Armstrong from Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance
* Cersei Lannister or Gregor Clegane from A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones
* Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2
* Johan Liebert from Monster
* Vicious from Cowboy Bebop
* Sephiroth from Final Fantasy
* Gendo Ikari from Neon Genesis Evangelion
* Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus from the Spider-Man Trilogy and the MCU
* Bowser from Super Mario Bros
* Light Yagami from Death Note (Anime and manga)
* Hans Gruber from Die Hard
* Imhotep from The Mummy (1932 or 1999)
* Frankenstein's Monster from Frankenstein (Mary Shelley's novel or the 1931 film)
* Rebecca "Revy" Lee from Black Lagoon
* Lelouch vi Britannia from Code Geass
* Albert Wesker from Resident Evil
* Aku from Samurai Jack
* Henry Lee Lucas from Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
* Jason Voorhes from Friday the 13th
* Nylarthotep from the Cthulhu Mythos
* Lord Ozai from Avatar: The Last Airbender
* Noatak/Amon from The Legend of Korra
* Jacobim Mugatu from Zoolander
* DIO from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
* Clarence Boddicker from RoboCop
* Homelander from The Boys (2019)
* The Onceler from The Lorax (novel and animated special)
* The Grinch from The Grinch (animated special and live-action film)
* Homura Akemi from Puella Magi Madoka Magica
* Shere Khan from The Jungle Book (Disney)
* Magneto from the X-Men Films
* Gozer the Gozarian from Ghostbusters
* William Afton from Five Nights at Freddy's
* Kilgrave from the MCU
* The Ice King or the Lich from Adventure Time
* Lord Voldemort from Harry Potter
* The Other Mother from Coraline
* Clay Puppington from Moral Orel
. I have only seen 3 of these movies. I guess I don't get around the human's entertainment very much. The only one I respected on your list is Hans Gruber. I did like Nurse Ratchet and the guy, Doyle, who got whacked in Slingblade. I prefer watching documentaries, and movies, about real killers like Stalin, Hitler, and the zillion others down through bloody, brutal, human history.
How about Askeladd from Vinland Saga?
I get so extremely excited when Vile does a video on a character I enjoy. I almost screamed out of joy when I saw this one. I once again wanna recommended Bill Foster/D-FENZ from the movie Falling Down for analysis.
I would be so fucking excited if actually does that. Falling down is a great movie with a complex villain.
Good pick
I took Francis' "Love" towards his grandmother as an ironic mislabeling of the emotion of hate rather than an honest misunderstanding of what "love" is
Excellent work. The only detail I think you missed, and something that I always found interesting, was that the families Dolarhyde killed had the exact same structure as his mother's family excluding him; a mother, a father, two sons, and a daughter. I always interpreted that as him thinking that the people he needed to kill had to be, what was in his mind at least, a "perfect" family. To me at least, it felt like another manifestation of his trauma.
Also, neither here nor there, but Tom Noonan has always been easily my favorite portrayal of the character. Even though I don't really think any of the adaptations of 'Red Dragon' have properly lived up to book, 'Manhunter' is easily my favorite because it has the best Will Graham, a very effective Francis Dolarhyde, and so much tension and atmosphere you can drown in it.
Your shows are done so professionally. So deeply into the characters. Just an amazing job . Thank you for your time. I love this channel
"He wasn't born a monster. Nobody is."
As true as this is, it really makes me long for the time of John Carpenter's Halloween. Just once in a while I'd like to root against someone who was born bad instead of being moulded into a monster by trauma and abuse :(
Brother wasn't abused and he is a pyschopath
You’d love Rob Zombie’s Halloween
@@zer0_iz_d34d No, I really did not. As I said above I preferred the 'simple unapologetic evil for no reason' rather than molding him into a victim so that we root for the serial killer. A common theme in RZ movies, actually.
@@Nystariiioh wait I misread that, my bad
@@zer0_iz_d34d All good it happens lol
I’d love to see an analyzing evil episode on Colin Sullivan from The Departed. The lengths he goes to to save his own skin is crazy.
That would be interesting, as well as a separate video on Billy Costigan, a good guy forced to do acts of brutal violence to ultimately bring down a force of pure evil, Frank Costello.
And, Frank Costello would be a great subject, as it’s easy to write him off as evil and profoundly amoral, given an early scene where he shoots and kills a man and a woman and then laughs because the woman “fell funny.” BUT, clearly Costello has some sense of morality given his interaction with the priests and his anger over the abuse of children by the clergy. Maybe that’s where it all started for Frank, abused by someone he was supposed to trust, a person held up as a pillar of the community. Perhaps he dealt with all the pain by becoming desensitized, not only to his own suffering but to the suffering of others.
@@dasky17 a little off subject but does anybody know why they gave Nicholson the name of a real famous mobster Frank Costello spelled exactly the same? Seems kinda lazy, that's like making a movie about a musician and naming him Phil Collins but not the real Phil Collins, the movie character just happens to have the same name. You think they would just choose any other name to avoid confusion?
@@salbonpensiero1704 I thought the same thing
I'd actually prefer analyzing his counterpart in Infernal Affairs. As Lao is a far more interesting character than Colin.
EXCELLENT BREAKDOWN!!!!! I've thought about you doing one on this guy,, and it's a VERY pleasant surprise that you've actually done it!! GREAT JOB MAN!!!👍
1) Fantastic job you did with this one, as per usual.
2)Just to give you some of the less popular suggestions to cover:
- Kevin from M. Night Shyamalan trilogy (aka "the beast");
- Mr. Glass from Unbreakable and Glass;
- Percy Wetmore from Green mile (either him or wild Bill);
- Walter Sullivan from SH4;
- Claudia Wolf from SH3;
- Bane from The Dark Knight Rises;
- Eric Killmonger from Black Panther;
- Magneto from the X-men series;
- Lee Woo-jin from Oldboy;
- Niander Wallace from Blade Runner 2049;
- Alejandro from Sicario;
- Bill from Kill Bill;
- Captain poison from Blood Diamond;
- Clyde Shelton from Law Abiding Citizen;
- Tyrell Wellick from Mr. Robot;
- The Yellow King from True Detective;
- William D. Fosters from Falling Down;
- Sweeny Todd from The Demon Barber of Fleet Street;
- Harvey from The Lovely Bones;
- Bruce Robertson from Filth;
- Raoul Silva from Skyfall;
- Orochimaru from Naruto (either him or Pain);
- Gendo Ikari from NGE;
- Ladd Russo from Baccano!;
- The Major from Hellsing Ultimate;
- Knives from Trigun;
- Father from FMA: Brotherhood;
- Mother Gothel from Tangled;
- Lord Shen from KFP 2;
YES YES YES WALTER SULLIVAN!!!!! SUCH A UNDERRATED VILLAIN!
Clyde and Alejandro aren't evil or bad guys.
Bruce Robertson would be a great video!
I was waiting a long time for this video, I love Hannibal's books and your video was incredible. I feel that each adaptation has given its part regarding who Dolarhyde is, but in my case, my favorite adaptation will always be Manhunter, maybe the size of Tom Noonan helped a lot to make Francis look intimidating. If he had trained his muscles before the movie, he would certainly have given the character much more power. I would have loved to see the Red Dragon tattoo that they prepared for him but never used, it's a shame.
Thomas Shelby from the peaky blinders would be quite interesting watching his ruthless rise to power
I always felt like, if Francis could have waited - held back the Dragon a little longer, until he met Reba - he may have been in the clear, and may have enjoyed a normal adult life, or as normal as anyone has. It’s a tragedy - for the people he hurts and himself. I normally don’t pity the killer, but in this case Harris did a great job making him very understandable, if not entirely sympathetic.
Nice video
Literally just watched red dragon. Didn’t know you had done this video. Talk about timing. Keep up the good work!
After all these years.. im still impressed with Fiennes as Dolarhyde.. his performance was just.. 👌🙌👏
I really look forward to each new video. This channel is 10/10. Awesome episode!!
The only problem I had with the depiction of Dolarhyde, was the fact, that in the book, he was described to jacked af.
Yeah he was written to be huge. But with what I know ab bodybuilding now Ralph Fiennes body is actually not bad for a natural bodybuilder of his age. Though the book wrote him like he was a IFBB pro with muscles everywhere
Richard Armitage does have a pretty jacked body. I also like how he managed to combine both Fiennes and Noonan's portrayals together.
Found this series a couple weeks ago and binged the whole series over that time. Loving these videos. Hopefully you eventually do a study on Handsome Jack from the Borderlands series. He's one of my favorite villains in media.
"As a child, my heart bleeds for him. Somebody took a little boy and turned him into a monster. But as an adult, he's irredeemable."
Keep the good work by making such amazing videos.
Here are some suggestions for future videos:
-Voldemort from the Harry Potter series
-Johan Liebert from Monster
-Light Yagami from the Death Note manga and anime
-Eren Yeager from the Attack on Titan manga and anime
JOHAN!!!!!!!!! Monster is one of the best stories ever. I never read the manga but ive watched the anime multiple times. Johan will give even the hardest souls the ceeps
Naoki Urasawa is a genius. Monster is hands down one of the best manga I've ever read.
Eren isn’t really a villain depending the lens you’re basing it from.
Great video as always. I do have a suggestion for a video, if I may: Judge Holden from Blood Meridian written by Cormac McCarthy
Amazing idea but that probably won’t happen unless Blood Meridian gets an adaptation, which is never going to happen, or if Vile Eye starts covering literary only villains.
That would be AMAZING. Though yeah, 99% of the people out there wouldn't know who that is.
@@davew1647 Then let it be the opportunity for them to know.
"This is a Very Shy Boy Will...
I'd Love to Meet'Im."
Nice reference 😂
would love to see a breakdown of Gendo Ikari from NGE
YES!
Oh god
Fiennes was incredible in his portrayal but I feel one that must be covered is Nina Meyers from “24”
You should do Johan Leibert from Monster. Dude is the literal depiction of evil.
I ve always considered him a knockoff Hannibal.
If you think about it, their personalities are quite similar. Reserved, intelligent men malformed by childhood traumas. Always polite and calm, manipulating everyone around them to have a front row at the show of human degradation.
Their dynamics w the protagonist are similar as well. Trying to amuse themselves and corrupt the pure at the same time.
You have my vote with any villain Naoki Urasawa has written. Dudes solid. Loved leibert and “friend” from 20th century boys
@@fedorgalkin5018 I haven't watched silence of the lambs in a while but I know Johan is no knock-off evil psychopath. Regardless, I would still like to see an analysing evil episode on him, considering how he doesn't get much love as a villain.
@@commander1suv492 He doesn't get much love? I thought Johan was often regarded as one of the best villains of all time(rightly so).
as far as I remember Johan never had any traumatic experience first hand but it was his sister I supposed who witness all the experiments and give the account to his brother, Johan till the end remain enigmatic character his motives are subtle shown so his madness but it's being too long since I watch it so I have forgotten much details.
I was just thinking about suggesting a character analysis of Francis to your channel today. And to my very happy surprise, I just opened youtube to find this on the top of my feed. Liked before watching just for the pure coincidence of it.
Love your analysis of all these villains, including ones that I'm not necessarily familiar with myself. Given that No Way Home home came out, I'd be curious to see a video of Dafoe's Green Goblin, since most people would consider him the best Spidey villain, and a possible contender for best MCU villain.
Bravo! Such a great character, and analysis
9:32 Weirdly enough despite him thinking everyone thought he was horrendously ugly some of the women Francis worked with fancied him not just Reba.
I want to see a movie where the main character is as troubled and disturbed as Dollarhyde, but he gets nearly completely rehabilitated.
That would be an amazing plot to see, a movie that gives the message that is not impossible to become a better person despite the traumas received in life, i'ts a great message to send.
Watch "A Clockwork Orange". The British release of the book (not the American version) has an ending more fitting to an evil person becoming rehabilitated....
@@KattMurr I never saw the whole movie or read the book, but I know the plot. Is Alex's rehabilitation real?
@@MrHousecup the movie leaves an ambiguous ending. The book however has him fully rehabilitated. He falls in love and gets married.....
They’ve already done that and it helps nobody who has suffered.
An audience for that narrative consists of the same people ironically wanting the sufferer to fit into a socially acceptable box that can no longer hold the blood and bulging bruises from the beatings.
Better to just let the pain and trauma out and let the world see its terrible work.
I think it's so interesting to look at how throughout his life Francis was constantly emasculated by the people around him. The nickname from the orphanage, his grandmother's threats of castration and forcing him to sit down to use the bathroom, the tooth fairy nickname. That emasculation reflects the homophobia of the society Francis was raised in, homophobia that's also reflected in his encounters and infatuation with both Will and Hannibal. Great video! I'll be doing my own video essay on him and posting it soon 👍
I would add on and say homophobia is not only “reflected in his encounters and infatuation with both Will and Hannibal”, but also his crimes against women. He was also a serial rapist and necrophile, and considering his history of abuse, lack of interaction with the opposite sex beyond that “I’ll show you mine” event as a child, etc. He used rape/sex/transformation against women as a sad attempt to reclaim power he felt he never had as himself. His family and those orphans really did a number on him smh
bruh im so happy that u cover this character
cuz i think francis had moments that made him even scarier than hannibal
Perhaps it was his choice of victims? The ritual involved? The OCD planning to lead up to the kill? The voices he heard in his head? He was built like a beast (in the books at least)? He writes secret admirer letters to Lecter? Did I miss anything?
I would love to hear your thoughts on these characters...
Percy Wetmore and Wild Bill from "The Green Mile".
Blanche and Jane Hudson from "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? "
Randall Flagg from "The Stand"
Greg Stillson from "The Dead Zone"
Mrs. Camody from "The Mist"
Alex Forrest from "Fatal Attraction"
Henry Bowers from "It"
Rhoda Penmark from "The Bad Seed"
Harry Powell from "Night of the Hunter"
Nino Brown from "New Jack City"
Nina Myers from "24"
Joan Crawford from "Mommie Dearest"
Gollum from "The Lord of the Rings"
Tyler Durden from "Fight Club"
Cersei Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon, Littlefinger, Tywin Lannister, and Ramsey Bolton from "Game of Thrones"
King Edward I aka "Longshanks" from "Braveheart"
The Governor, Alpha, and Negan from "The Walking Dead"
Gus Fring and The Salamancas from "Breaking Bad" and "Better Call Saul"
Kilgrave from "Jessica Jones"
Joe Goldberg from "You"
Keyser Soze from "The Usual Suspects"
Francie Brady from "The Butcher Boy"
Dwight Hansen from "This Boy's Life"
Betty Wendell from "THEM"
Delores Umbridge from "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix"
John Ryder from "The Hitcher"
Grandmother and Mother from "Flowers in the Attic"
Carl Stargher from "The Cell"
Barbara and Carol Denning from "OITNB"
I’d also like David from Prometheus/Alien and Thomas Shelby from Peaky Blinders.
Gordon from Freddy Got Fingered.
Lisa from The Room.
Definetley agree with the Tyler Durden, Keyser soze and Gus fring + Salamancas
Well, he did Tyler Durden & Alex Forrest, but, I, too, am DEFINITELY waiting on Carl Stagher! I love "The Cell" so much, I own it. I've only been able to watch it 3x tho. It's just too scary for me..I can see why D'Onofrio has distanced himself from it!!
Another great video. Would love to see an analysis of the many brilliant villains throughout the Fargo TV series
Another great one. Really, really good. Do Nino Brown from New Jack city or Frank White from King of New York.
Man love you videos. I’d be super interested in your brake down of Jonathan (black jack) Randall from outlander.
We just need Voldemort to complete the trilogy of Ralph Fiennes villains
I know of Voldemort and Francis dolerhyde, but who was the third villain Ralph fiennes portrayed?
don't forget Ramies from The Prince of Egypt
@@thejoker0123 omg I can't believe I forgot about the prince of Egypt
@@pinkiepiebiggestfan6099 Amon Goethe from Schindler's List
I remember reading a short article where he talked about Voldemort. He was skeptical about taking the role but his kids urged him to do it, and that when he went to his first wardrobe fitting “something just happened the first time I put on that cloak.” He also said that sometimes there were children on the set, and they always gave him a wide berth. “I once walked past the son of a script supervisor and he burst into tears. I felt very proud of myself.”
Red Dragon, and Dolarhyde, are Harris’ best in the Hannibal series. He really did peak immediately.
Fiennes nailed that role. He is such a great villain portrayer.
Voldemort anyone?
Love this movie and have been in love with Ralph Fiennes for 20 years! 🖤
I never knew there was so much back story to this character! It really is something to see him fight a losing battle with his inner demons!
This really is one of my top five channels on UA-cam. Your analysis is meticulously researched, explained in a very accessible, educational and entertaining manner.
As you lay out each piece of information gleaned from the multiple sources you deem pertinent we FULLY SEE the character as close to a real person as a fictional character can be.
Your analysis reminds me of my time in highschool and college on the debate team. You build your case one brick at a time, leaving a solid and almost perfectly constructed edifice in place. Your audience sees the character more fully, perhaps actually seeing the real nature of the character and seeing it completely, possibly for the first time.
I find Francis Dolarhyde equal parts terrifying, and heartbreaking, a prisoner of very real demons that live on in his head, trapping him in hell the whole of his life. As a baby, his mother & hospital staff discard him, leaving a baby to slowly die of neglect, hunger, dehydration.
Like Queen Mama later, this Black nurse takes potty on the baby, finding a way he can be fed without choking, even though the description of her interaction was more about practicality than affection.
EVEN HANNIBAL LECTER seems to have some level of sympathy for Dolarhyde (as much as Lecter was capable of feeling any emotion), telling Will Graham, this monster was not born, he was made.
It's what makes Red Dragon such a brilliant book. We're introduced to a monster who murdered entire families. How are we able to feel anything but loathing for a monster that murders children?
Yet, Thomas Harris is a skillful author, and all the violence and loss can be layed at the feet of his grandmother foremost, and his mother.
We are able to see a small boy, brutalized by everyone, loved by no one, and not even protected by the one person in the world he should have been able to rely on. He experiences hatred, ridicule, terror, disdain and worst of all, betrayal.
It's no wonder he chooses to become a different being. He doesn't dream of being a strong and handsome man, he dreams of shedding the disgusting carcass of humanity and transforming, ascending to his destiny. He will metamorphose into the god-like Red Dragon.
I've read the book, enjoyed the audiobook, watched Manhunter (the Michael Mann dramatization from the 80's), and the Edward Norton/ Ralph Fiennes movie, which I didn't care for either.
Hannibal, the series was one of the best programs on TV, ever. Just going by the acting talent involved in a TV SERIES, not to mention the team behind the camera. It still makes me gnash my teeth that's were only had 3 seasons before this was cancelled. Anyway, the book is really the only place you can get the full story so you learn how the monster was made.
A villain that I would like to see covered on this channel is Pharaoh Ramesses from Prince of Egypt. I think he’s a great villain in a seriously underrated masterpiece. Prince of Egypt is my favorite dream works movie and I think Pharaoh is a great character that adds so much to the film. I think it’s also interesting to compare Pharaoh in the movie to how he’s described in the Bible. In the movie he’s evil but at least sympathetic in someways. In the Bible however not much is known about his character except that he’s described as very evil. By the way I really love your channel and I think your video about Hans Landa Is my favorite one. He’s just my favorite Quentin Tarantino villain and I think you did a really good job at flushing out his character.
Excellent one! One of my favorite villains and coincidentally I am rereading Red Dragon so the timing is perfect
Gene Hackmans character in Quick and the Dead is evil as could be. I think it may be his best role
Great video as always! Have you ever read or played I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream? I think the villain AM would be an interesting analysis
You should do Cersei Lannister, Joffery Baratheon, or Ramsey Bolton from Game of Thrones. Of all the villians on that show these three were the most despicable. I just don't know which one deserves to be featured on your channel.
Don't forget Littlefinger.
One of my absolute favorite villains!!!! I’ve been hoping/waiting for you to make a video about him.
Actually, there is one person I can think of, from the Karate Kid trilogy, that is evil: Terry Silver, from Karate Kid 3. He's actually been added to the Cobra Kai series. If you decide to create an analysis of him, start with reviewing his character in Karate Kid 3 and then review his character in Cobra Kai.
That's a great idea!! Silly but serious lol
Please yes do terry silver and include not only his karate kid 3 appearance but also his cobra Kai appearance.
It'd be a perfect one for April Fools as a more lighthearted villain?
Maybe wait for the series to end
I don't think fighting dirty makes him evil. Azzhole yes but evil no.
Expert analysis. Well done.
Tom Noonan is by far the best Dolarhyde he really portrayed his sensitivity his strength and his madness.
Here since I happened to be looking for a clip of Kurtz and I found this gem of a channel with only 7k subscribers .
Watched then and subscribed, and I’m very proud to see how much the channel has grown. Continue the great work brother , and thank you 👍🇮🇪
This is such a well-researched and well put together, it's just amazing. Well done man.
2nd video I have watched by you. Speechless! Amazing work! Addicted now
I think someone like Syndrome from "The Incredibles" would be a good one to analyze. People tend to get a lot about his backstory wrong (namely they claim Mr. Incredible said that you can't be a hero without powers when he never did) but there's a lot to the character all the same. For a character in a children's movie, he commits a LOT of murder and for what? What was his REAL motive? Who was he really?
Syndrome is a disturbingly accurate depiction of toxic fandom: He thought himself entitled to be Mr. Incredible's sidekick just because he was his biggest fan, but when Mr. Incredible rejected him and for a good reason, he got angry because his idol didn't do what he wanted.
This has got to be my favorite series in the whole of UA-camz! I used to study films in college. Mmmm. This reminds me of delicious essays. I remember scribbling away, furiously to films like "Gladiator" & "A Clockwork Orange". Happy years :)
Ralph Fiennes, was excellent in this role! This film & his performance blew my mind as a kid.
You should totally do Mr glass and the hoard from the m night shamalyn trilogy
It would be interesting to see Mr. Glass Analysed. The Horde is harder to analyse as you really don't get enough screen time with all the personalities. Mr. Glass seems better to analyse as he ended up creating the Horde (Unintentionally) and the Hero David Dunn.
Do a video of the incarnation of evil. The dark lord Sauron
Tom Noonan had the characters quiet, withdrawn abs tortured personality but nowhere near the physicality. Ralph Fiennes looked the part but he couldn’t portray Dolarhyde’s inner torment. Richard Armitage brought it all together.
Would love to see one of these on Mason and Bill, seeing as you've done both Hannibal and Francis
also, still holding out hope you'll do FMA 2003's Envy someday, would really love to see that dude covered
I remember requesting an analysis on Francis earlier in the Analyzing Evil series and you didn't disappoint. I do hope you get around to Mason Verger, though there's another character not unlike Dolarhyde that I think you could cover: Mizoguchi from Yukio Mishima's The Temple of the Golden Pavilion.
One villain I'd like to see covered is Clyde Shelton from Law Abiding Citizen.
Villain? Anti hero at worst. I see him as a true hero.
The system was corrupt as hell. He wasn't the villain.
And that ending sucks
Omg yessssss been waiting for this one
William Peterson's portrayal of Will Graham was better then Edward Norton's. William Peterson brought Will Graham's psychological pain to the surface
I would love to see a duel video on Joffrey Baratheon and Ramsey Bolton
In ever iteration of the films and show, casting was done so well.
Loved every character in every iteration.
Mads Mikkelsen was such a close second to Hopkins
Yes, love this villain, Finneas's performance really captured me
I think we need a Stringer Bell analysis. His willingness to undermine, manipulate and harm those around him for the sole intention of capital gain is both chilling & captivating.
would love to see this episode
Just got done watching The Wire. This would be great.
The first two villains in the movie "Manhunter" were never equaled or surpassed. They set the gold standard. In addition Michael Mann was the genius behind it all.
Brian Cox as Hannibal is underrated.
These videos are astounding. Excellent work man! Please keep them coming!!!
Could you do a video on Dracula? Specifically from the adaptation by Francis Ford Coppola. I think it would make for an interesting video.
Been waiting for this !
I thought Francis Dolarhde was terrifying at the end of Mindhunter cutting Will's face with the piece of glass in his hand then robotically throwing Will aside walking out of the room getting the shotgun blasting the ambushing cops at the door but in the book, he was built like a bodybuilder so he would be like the Terminator.
Red Dragon is FANTASTIC and one of the most CRIMINALLY underrated movies' of all time