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  • Опубліковано 21 чер 2024
  • The conversation around the suspended DA member of parliament continues after a 16-year old video of him inciting racist remarks using the 'K' and 'N' words went viral. Executive Director of IRR Legal Gabriel Crouse weighs in.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 658

  • @Knaaigher
    @Knaaigher Місяць тому +88

    How is this guy working at the Institute of Race Relations with such an embarrasingly poor understanding of race in South Africa? Disgusting.

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 Місяць тому +1

      Feel free to tell us what makes you such an expert in this field ....
      Dom Doos !!!!

    • @nickwidmer9044
      @nickwidmer9044 Місяць тому

      The "Institute of Race Relations" is a joke. They're a bunch of geriatric white liberals and that weirdo 'Big Daddy Liberty'.

    • @Knaaigher
      @Knaaigher Місяць тому +22

      @@truth-Hurts375 I'm sorry for giving you the wrong idea here this was not for you. My comment was clearly directed toward people with sense.

    • @chrisnaude2929
      @chrisnaude2929 Місяць тому

      Are you listening to what is being said?

    • @thabangaugustinehlalele
      @thabangaugustinehlalele Місяць тому

      He is white do you know how many white work in that farce of an institution? 😂😂😂😂

  • @bafana308
    @bafana308 Місяць тому +76

    If what he did is similar to what Malema did, then Malema went to court to defend himself for that. likewise, he must also go there to defend himself as well.🤔

    • @vicetsebeth2187
      @vicetsebeth2187 Місяць тому +4

      True, but he will not get a fair trial...

    • @yvonnememela918
      @yvonnememela918 Місяць тому +7

      Absolutely. Let the courts decide.

    • @hlamzar
      @hlamzar Місяць тому +2

      Notice how the courts made a bad judgment when it's Malema because context doesn't matter when it's him😂 but he was trying to make Gous racism justifiable

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@vicetsebeth2187Oh please.

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk Місяць тому

      But Malema proved that he didn’t say “kill” but he said “ kiss” . He even demonstrated with the body language when he said “ mwah”

  • @107182253
    @107182253 Місяць тому +7

    This guy's understanding of what racism is, is very shallow.

    • @jvanvuuren8461
      @jvanvuuren8461 Місяць тому +1

      And you have exceptional understanding? When is your book due?

  • @afroisme5750
    @afroisme5750 Місяць тому +7

    ...the host doesn't know this guy is racist; which he presents in a subtle way. Unfortunately the host is not a good interviewer...

  • @Tinker8531
    @Tinker8531 Місяць тому +19

    RENALDO CAMPAIGNED ON GAYTON'S PAST, WHY SHOULD HIS PAST NOT COME INTO THE FRAY.

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому +2

      True. That said, have folks watched the entire clip? And understand that Gouws was trying to draw comparisons between the use of songs and words? He wasn't actually calling anyone anything. He was simply making a point.

    • @siphelele87
      @siphelele87 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@helenduplessis4166who are the K word and n word he was referring to exactly than?

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому +1

      It was a comparison of how hurtful and destructive words are that Malema said and if in the same token the k word and n word was said it would also be very destructive and hurtful. Both should be illegal. It was a comparative It was not directed at anybody specifically It was an emotional rant that tried to show how equally hurtful it is. But racist words of violence with intent toward boers is legally fine but the other way around not.

    • @siphelele87
      @siphelele87 Місяць тому +1

      @@samanthaholm9634 a racist emotional rant,we can agree on that. K word and N word in whatever context is racist,as both words come from a vile historical context and for Renaldo to feel privileged enough to willy nilly use those words is disgusting.
      FYI dubul ' ubhunu is an anti apartheid struggle song ,and the high court has ruled it is not hate speech,the song should be viewed in it's historical context, as an anti apartheid struggle song.

    • @werner240
      @werner240 Місяць тому

      @@siphelele87 No one should use that word ever. Both are wrong. Kill the Boer and using the K word are vile. The idea that only white people can be racist is laughable. All races are equal. Renaldo did go too far and his rhetorical example did indeed cause hurt and distress (equating to crimen injuria) which was the whole the whole point of his video. The whole idea of an eye for an eye is evil and only leads to destruction. This goes both ways.

  • @user-ym8rf2fz3x
    @user-ym8rf2fz3x Місяць тому +51

    The fact that this guy is a DA MP is disturbing to say the least.

    • @Tinker8531
      @Tinker8531 Місяць тому +8

      DA said Coloured peopel have no merit that's why there is so few in Parliament but racists have Merit. Coloureds take note please.

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 Місяць тому +3

      Not really. This is their brand.

    • @icno123
      @icno123 Місяць тому +1

      @@Tinker8531Calm down kid he’s being suspended meanwhile all your banana parties like EFF keep criminals close and do nothing

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 Місяць тому

      Correct....and now the White Domkoppe are doing their best to shift the Blame to Malema...
      What a joke !!!!

    • @margaretlesoleso
      @margaretlesoleso Місяць тому

      You worry too much about something so little little

  • @yvonnememela918
    @yvonnememela918 Місяць тому +42

    The interviewer was really triggered by this guy.

    • @gerrald5272
      @gerrald5272 Місяць тому

      White should just leave Africa period.

    • @tiromakhudu3817
      @tiromakhudu3817 Місяць тому

      she was misled by the name of the institute and expected a measured response. not a whitesplanation of how it was semantic to say ka***** or Nig***** and neither here nor there as if the comparison couldn't be made without simply saying black people.
      in fact, the man says that it was a matter of intellectual honesty that the words be used be used the K and N words are, by his reasoning, equal in this context and should not be substative to the analysis of this "rhetorical comparison."

  • @Zandim.m
    @Zandim.m Місяць тому +53

    Naledi asks a very specific question that says "Can you actively say that the feelings of black people when they hear the K word do not matter because of the context of the conversation in which it was used. His response is so callously casual and he says "Everyone's feelings matter". This reminds me of the way in which racist white people in America started the trend of saying "all lives matter" in response to the slogan "black lives matter". This is the disgusting attitude that all racists have whenever an issue is raised pertaining to an attack on black people.
    The fact that this guy works for the IRR is actually very telling of what the IRR stands for. Goes to show that what an institution stands for is not really found on its mission and vision statement, but it is found in the people who represent it.

    • @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
      @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Місяць тому +3

      Stop playing the card.

    • @sisandamatomela3272
      @sisandamatomela3272 Місяць тому

      What's new !! The fact that we have to sit here and listen to white people whitesplaining racism to us and gaslighting us about it induces a gag reflex :-(

    • @mvelotshabalala2462
      @mvelotshabalala2462 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@MarkHutchinson-ry9szWhich card?

    • @Nick-po8sf
      @Nick-po8sf Місяць тому +1

      I'm not sure if it's fair to equate "everyone's feelings matter" with being racist. I definitely think it was inappropriate for him to start going into his own experiences with the EFF etc. It came off as though he was sympathetic to Gouws.

    • @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
      @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Місяць тому +1

      Race card

  • @samanthaholm9634
    @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому +4

    Naledi just flippantly says 'kill the boer' how hurtful. Has she no shame? She perfectly express's the double standard and is disgusting she said that aloud. It hurt my feelings.

  • @thatomogale9803
    @thatomogale9803 Місяць тому +30

    Context? In what context is what Renaldo said justified? Fine, Malema has been charged many times for that song, so Renaldo should be punished as well right? And why are we deflecting? Playing the "what about" game? We need to have honest conversations about race and who it really effects and has effected on a larger scale.

    • @margaretlesoleso
      @margaretlesoleso Місяць тому

      Affected, how and when😱. What are you going to teach your children that the k word is degrading?. Surely, this insane😊. And besides, this word doesn't appear anywhere in the dictionary. Besides it's anybodys choice how it feels to be called ka--r.. Don't speak for me trying to make your feelings as "a one size fits all" type of a feeling ☹️☹️

    • @thatomogale9803
      @thatomogale9803 Місяць тому

      ​@@margaretlesoleso A word so vile, you can't even type it in full? It is meant to degrade black people, and has no other meaning. If you're not offended by it, congratulations here's your medal 🥇. But the vast majority does and we make decisions based on the majority. And WHAT? It doesn't appear in the dictionary? So that makes it okay? And it does exist, try this magical thing called Google, or get back to your meds and give your grandson his phone back.

    • @Hannodb1961
      @Hannodb1961 Місяць тому +4

      How about if he was saying that line to demonstrate _exactly why_ that is an unacceptable thing to say? Context does matter.

    • @isipilenyembezi541
      @isipilenyembezi541 Місяць тому

      Racism will never end in this country. You walk in a place a people who don't look like you clutch their handbags. What is that?

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому +3

      Malema was not charged. According to the court saying 'k1ll the boer' is fine it was a freedom song even though it is directed towards a people and the words incite violence. We all know it is ridiculous to believe any different and is disgusting.

  • @lesekari
    @lesekari Місяць тому +12

    Saying most black people did not if experienced racism in the past 5 years is so stupid considering most come from black townships and many are unemployed which impacts how frequently they interact. Why didn't you press him on this obvious matter? Where even is the data and methodology in question? What kind of journalism is this?

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Місяць тому +1

      Journalism in SA where pushback can get you fired by the very people you are trying to push back against.

    • @zerog1037
      @zerog1037 Місяць тому

      Huh lol
      Being unemployed isn't a product of present day racism existing 😂

  • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
    @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Місяць тому +40

    The Institute of Rigid Racists is right to defend their culture.

    • @MrsLekker
      @MrsLekker Місяць тому

      Coming from a racist like you tells you everything about our country

    • @Truthseeker-iz3dj
      @Truthseeker-iz3dj Місяць тому +1

      They let Malema off the hook.

    • @margaretlesoleso
      @margaretlesoleso Місяць тому

      So what?

    • @MthimkhuluD
      @MthimkhuluD Місяць тому +2

      Having a white man discussing racism and being in some position of power is insane. I’d love to challenge this man

    • @SonOfTheSoil834
      @SonOfTheSoil834 Місяць тому

      What do we expect thou🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @tiromakhudu3817
    @tiromakhudu3817 Місяць тому +4

    It's when he said the K-word is "taboo." It's an interesting glimpse into the world of thinking

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому

      What would you say the word is if not taboo?

    • @tashansofwa2426
      @tashansofwa2426 Місяць тому +2

      @@helenduplessis4166 it is a racist word

    • @tiromakhudu3817
      @tiromakhudu3817 Місяць тому

      @@helenduplessis4166 let's define taboo according to the Cambridge dictionary shall we? - a subject, word, or action that is avoided for religious or social reasons
      taboo does not begin to describe this word. this is the word shouted at us before violence on our bodies. this is the word shouted at us when we were dispossessed of land. this is the word shouted at us today to dehumanise
      it might be merely a taboo to you. for us, it is an experience, its humiliation. its live. its when people look at you and without knowing a thing about you, conclude that you are lower than filth, barely human and undeserving of the same rights and opportunities bestowed by the accident of all our births.

  • @rthare1
    @rthare1 Місяць тому +4

    Ha Ha Gabriel shut that tirade rant right down with 3 words. 'Everyone's feelings matter" Sooo cool man.

    • @margaretlesoleso
      @margaretlesoleso Місяць тому

      Not mine especially on trivial matters like these😱

  • @afroisme5750
    @afroisme5750 Місяць тому +6

    ....Malema isn't an issue here; at issue is Renaldo Goyws who used the K word and the N word and calling for the killing of Black people....justifying racism is nonsensical...

    • @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
      @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Місяць тому

      Look up the word context.

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому

      ​@@MarkHutchinson-ry9szabsolutely agree

    • @willemien2037
      @willemien2037 Місяць тому

      This is about Gouws responding to Malema's song Kill the Boer.

    • @gstar3569
      @gstar3569 Місяць тому

      He did not call for the murdering of black people, have you even watched the whole video?

    • @gstar3569
      @gstar3569 Місяць тому

      Hypocrite

  • @Tinker8531
    @Tinker8531 Місяць тому +7

    YES THE COURT RULED WRONG IN MALEMA'S CASE. THE JUDGES WERE RULING WITH THEIR EMOTIONS AND NOT THEIR COMMON SENSE. THE LAW CAN AT TIMES BE AN A***

    • @truth-Hurts375
      @truth-Hurts375 Місяць тому +1

      Still...
      That does NOT give this Domkop the right to do what he did .....

    • @anonymouslex782
      @anonymouslex782 Місяць тому

      @@truth-Hurts375 He simply asked, "how would you as a black man fee" if those sentences were reversed in a democratic nation and again, as your name says, truth hurts

  • @lovelife4u
    @lovelife4u Місяць тому +26

    They're really not going to label this guy racist😂

  • @user-pb2zz8yq2l
    @user-pb2zz8yq2l Місяць тому +3

    I struggled finding out what this k-word was all about until I googled it. 😂😂 I have listened to modern Afrikaner people using this word several times here in Botswana post apartheid era. The word is often used when they are agitated, in a heated debate, when they lose their cool and running out of explanations. Afrikaner people never want to lose a debate against a black person no matter how silly their point of view is.

  • @user-in3yq9fx8z
    @user-in3yq9fx8z Місяць тому +16

    The Institute of Rigid Racists should give Gouws a job then. To try to argue that Gouws isn’t a racist is irrational and deplorable.

  • @ms_busybee5315
    @ms_busybee5315 Місяць тому +3

    After watching the whole video this guy is going to win this case

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Місяць тому

      I hope they use this as a case to shut down, once and for all, and firstly, Julius "Jelly Tot" Malema. If "Kill the Boer" is to be seen "in context", then other expressions and utterances must also be seen in context. By the way, the short video was edited, Gouws NEVER called for the killing of Blacks, as Malema did for Whites...

  • @Truecrime_junkie_TO
    @Truecrime_junkie_TO Місяць тому +2

    The context in which Malema and everyone else use the Boer is also used as a defamatory towards whites ..

  • @moonchild7033
    @moonchild7033 Місяць тому +3

    Well said Gabriel. We have to work together, all races, for the good of the country!

    • @maryanndiamond1690
      @maryanndiamond1690 Місяць тому +1

      Before we can do that, please give my piece of wealth, privilege and land.

  • @rthare1
    @rthare1 Місяць тому +4

    Naledi was noshing her teeth and so hypocritical and wrong. As a black person she says she can tell the impact of a word yet is she also saying that as a white person Gaibriel cannot tell her the impact of being threatened with murder because now there's a context?

    • @margaretlesoleso
      @margaretlesoleso Місяць тому

      That serves you right😄😄. Your expectations supercedes the real facts😇😇

  • @mvelotshabalala2462
    @mvelotshabalala2462 Місяць тому +10

    Where was this polling done that say's Malemi is the most racists politician?😂

  • @jasonroberts9794
    @jasonroberts9794 Місяць тому +7

    Reynado should get the full strength of the law, and so should Julius Malema

    • @0761ZoRO
      @0761ZoRO Місяць тому

      Will you not address yourself to the matter without bringing in Malema, racist you?!

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому +1

      Ah, but, there are different strokes for different folks..

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому

      ​@@0761ZoROMalema is a racist if you heard him in court he says he's not going to kill WHITE people yet. That is not appreciated by me it hurt my feelings.

    • @zerog1037
      @zerog1037 Місяць тому

      Over satire? Thts dumb

  • @lanas.6234
    @lanas.6234 Місяць тому +5

    Well said Gabriel.

  • @Bluecollarjoe6B9
    @Bluecollarjoe6B9 Місяць тому +9

    This guy tried his best to run intellectual interference for Gouws.

  • @ianoverll692
    @ianoverll692 Місяць тому +6

    Think about this....would this video ever have surfaced if Mr Gouws was never elected to parliament ?

    • @janedoe5510
      @janedoe5510 Місяць тому

      No. It wouldn't matter as much.

    • @nobulawutwala2127
      @nobulawutwala2127 Місяць тому +3

      It matters now because he would have to serve all the people of this country and it is clear that Renaldo Gouws holds Black people in contempt, so how can he be trusted to serve ALL equally and with fairness?

    • @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou
      @obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou Місяць тому +1

      It's tough at the coal face,racism is natural , as is the rich poor divide, we must all grow out of this racism thing,it takes too much stage,with no real remedy,national day of racism .

    • @SoultyBoiBeats
      @SoultyBoiBeats Місяць тому +1

      I know this guy from The Big Debate, he always talk about polls😂😂😂,

    • @siyawam
      @siyawam Місяць тому

      Gouws was arrogant after he was sworn in in parliament. This would not have happened to him had he kept quiet and focused on his new role.

  • @charlesvanonselen6251
    @charlesvanonselen6251 Місяць тому +6

    If you are Calvinist Afrikaans speaking person, you can live in orania. I am white English speaking person so I can't live there. It's NOT about race, it's about culture

    • @tshiamooriel5113
      @tshiamooriel5113 Місяць тому +1

      If we all follow your reasoning, I wonder do you think the world will be a better or worse place? And what is it in the calvinist Afrikaans culture that excludes people from joining this community? The truth is those people are together because of their shared perception of history and self-image, more than any progressive principles that people can freely adopt should they choose to. Let's stop lying on the internet to each other and ourselves.

    • @charlesvanonselen6251
      @charlesvanonselen6251 Місяць тому

      @@tshiamooriel5113 like for like, they want people of like culture! ALL tribes do this! If you are against Orania, why are you not the same towards Zululand or any other place where tribes live together? Different strokes for different folks I guess? Its also not for me to judge them, nor is it right for you to do. Again I do not judge different culture's customs, each to their own! As for lying - you should try taking your own advice before offering it to others! PS Life is probably much better for them because there is less dispute! Makes you think eh!!!

    • @tshiamooriel5113
      @tshiamooriel5113 Місяць тому

      ​​​@@charlesvanonselen6251you seem offended. With all due respect, I think your response is not measured and clearly emotional. Concerning the tribal dymanics of south Africa or in fact the world, you are suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect, hence your impotence in dealing with the questions and points I raise but instead doubling down on your ignorance. So, I suggest you take a break from the internet a bit. Then come back and elucidate; and share your views on the points I am raising in a reasonable and constructive manner.

    • @charlesvanonselen6251
      @charlesvanonselen6251 Місяць тому

      @@tshiamooriel5113 offended? No, just surprised and amused at the lack of understanding of a very simple concept on your part. Like I said, I am not Calvinist or Afrikaans but I respect their right to protect their own interests, just as I do the Zulus or any other tribe would in order to preserve their culture. Maybe you should go revisit those tertiary books again and find some other term that fits your narrative! You are literally demonstrating the very prognosis you have attempted to label me with! Just a suggestion! Enjoy your day!

    • @tshiamooriel5113
      @tshiamooriel5113 29 днів тому

      ​@@charlesvanonselen6251 Again, with all due respect, can you please just address my first reply? Doubling down on your ignorance and saying "you too" is not a response, unless you are 5 years old, do you get that? Your "you too" response ironically solidifies my diagnosis.
      I responded to you, directing my response to your points, hoping for some modicum of intellect and reason, in challenge to my points. But i think what you are really saying is that, your points on tribe are baseless, and shallow.
      Initially, I made the following 3 points, what is your response?
      1. If we all follow your reasoning, I wonder do you think the world will be a better or worse place?
      2. And what is it in the calvinist Afrikaans culture that excludes people from joining this community?
      3. The truth is those people are together because of their shared perception of history and self-image, more than any progressive principles that people can freely adopt should they choose to.
      Here are follow up quesitons, since you are an expert in the concept of tribe in south africa:
      Tell me what do you know about the Ngonyama Trust of the Zulu people? Kgosi Tau? What about the Gaza Empire? Monomothapa? Maphungubwe? Tell me about the integration patterns with others and standards/principles/laws of these tribes? tell me about the dynamic nature of tribe? what does the word batswana mean? do you know?
      BTW Rights are not a pass for racism (you're a pig for thinking in this way), do you know who the founders of Orania are and the spirit of thier startup in 1991? do you know who hendrik verwoerd is? you are talking garbage. Don't come here with your superficial intellect.
      You also have a good day Sir/Madam, take a walk and maybe your madness can be cured by the sun.

  • @SgtScud
    @SgtScud Місяць тому +1

    This reported wasnt ready for the truth and facts! well done Gabriel

  • @jazzytza5514
    @jazzytza5514 Місяць тому +2

    Gouws is one of his people, this people always have and always will defend each other.

  • @aishahdiedericks8051
    @aishahdiedericks8051 29 днів тому +1

    He's literally sipping tea/coffee while she's expressing herself

  • @Just_Mzo
    @Just_Mzo Місяць тому +13

    Why would you attend an interview about a video you have not watched though? Either he is lying or grossly incompetent.

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому +2

      He watched the video later in the day. He said is watched a snippet initially, and then watched the entire thing later when he was in his office.

    • @olivierm6893
      @olivierm6893 Місяць тому +1

      @@helenduplessis4166 the entire thing is 6 minutes he watched an edited 50 secs clip. hes useless as a researcher

    • @Just_Mzo
      @Just_Mzo Місяць тому

      @@helenduplessis4166 you are lying.

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Місяць тому +1

      Why don't you listen attentively....is it deliberate....the man explained very clearly the situation regarding the video...

    • @lastofthebrunnen-g
      @lastofthebrunnen-g Місяць тому +1

      He's quoting the moment that happens in the fourth minute of the full six minute video at 9:00 of this interview. Have you watched the entire 6 minute video or do you have no idea what you're talking about?

  • @rthare1
    @rthare1 Місяць тому +13

    She got emotional and carried on with a rant.

  • @Peace-un2zv
    @Peace-un2zv Місяць тому +14

    Its vital that reporters must be unbiased.✌️

  • @yvonnememela918
    @yvonnememela918 Місяць тому +15

    The fact that this Gouws couldn't speak against Malema without using racial slurs points to not only his racism but also stupidity as well.In his rants, he insults black South Africans and Africans in general. He had to suffer the consequences. He certainly, regardless of what the courts decide, can not be part of government.

    • @user-of9of
      @user-of9of Місяць тому

      How else was Renaldo supposed to talk about a black racist that calls for the killing of whites?

    • @jvanvuuren8461
      @jvanvuuren8461 Місяць тому

      Watch the full video first. You go of what other people are saying and their opinions based on a few seconds.

    • @easygoingdevilfan1387
      @easygoingdevilfan1387 Місяць тому +1

      @@jvanvuuren8461 Read before you comment 🥴

    • @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
      @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Місяць тому

      Context .Look it up.

    • @anonymouslex782
      @anonymouslex782 Місяць тому

      The fact that malema cant go without ONE rally without attacking white people with that songs shows you that malema is a racist fool and he means nothing

  • @mthokocele6374
    @mthokocele6374 Місяць тому +2

    Black people should stop asking white people to be apologetic about racism, they simply are not. take it or leave it.

  • @godfreyberry1599
    @godfreyberry1599 Місяць тому +14

    This woman is only pushing for the answer she wants to hear. Why bother with the interview in the first place?. Newsroom, normally excellent is trolling the bottom of the rascism barrel.

    • @revinot
      @revinot Місяць тому +1

      thats what I picked up too.

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @UviweMkupa
      @UviweMkupa Місяць тому

      You would say that because you are a racists

  • @gavinsaunders8997
    @gavinsaunders8997 Місяць тому +16

    If his charged then baby Juli boy must follow. EFF has done and said way worse.

    • @africanqueen1655
      @africanqueen1655 Місяць тому +1

      Your forefathers 👨🏼👩🏼 have been exposed. We are RECLAIMING our Land. 🙏🏿🙌🏾

    • @KhanyisoNtlakaza
      @KhanyisoNtlakaza Місяць тому +4

      You are really mentally disturbed😂

    • @RNA0ROGER
      @RNA0ROGER Місяць тому

      They have also done so while being in elected office which is a major major consideration.

    • @africanqueen1655
      @africanqueen1655 Місяць тому +1

      @@KhanyisoNtlakazaThe keep deleting my messages. YT is bias & does not want the truth told.

    • @africanqueen1655
      @africanqueen1655 Місяць тому +3

      @@KhanyisoNtlakazaThe fact that they hate JuJu means that he is doing right by his Black African Indigenous people. 🙏🏿👏🏾👏🏾

  • @user-ym8rf2fz3x
    @user-ym8rf2fz3x Місяць тому +10

    I couldn't watch that video.i have never heard such filth uttered on UA-cam.

    • @cloudstrife8791
      @cloudstrife8791 Місяць тому

      Must be a foreigner? Malema sings these at events and even states attacks on whites in the future.

  • @thabo1504
    @thabo1504 Місяць тому +1

    "As a black woman"... Here starts the buzz words. Lol

  • @lungilemahaye5179
    @lungilemahaye5179 Місяць тому +12

    Is this guy saying its allowed to use racial slurs in certain context? Maybe ngihlulwa isilungu.

    • @hlamzar
      @hlamzar Місяць тому +3

      You heard him right. He even said Malema is the most racist politician 😂 and SAns don't experience racism

    • @samuelmontsioa8253
      @samuelmontsioa8253 Місяць тому +5

      He's confusing me also because he's not making his stand clear regarding the word

    • @anonymouslex782
      @anonymouslex782 Місяць тому

      He was saying that Renaldo used the slurs in a manner to express context of what he was talking about and why is was angry and that in many books written by whites and blacks the authors uses the same words but they dont get attacked for the very simple reason, context.

    • @lungilemahaye5179
      @lungilemahaye5179 Місяць тому +1

      @@anonymouslex782 using a racial slur and calling it hyperbole is wild hey. He could have called us Africans or black people but he intentionally used the K and N words. I think used it because he felt there won't be any consequences. What's even more unsettling to me are people who are defending his behavior like the guy being interviewed. He didn't refer to him as a racist, not even once.

  • @KalienKeides
    @KalienKeides Місяць тому +2

    He shouldn't have used the words.. I'm sure he could have delivered the same point without using those words which cos I mean "boer" and k/n aren't equivocal... You don't get bliksemed for calling someone a boer... You know?

  • @frederickhamman7725
    @frederickhamman7725 Місяць тому +1

    This guy knows his stuff… he makes perfect sense. He is very bright and fair in his comments.

  • @tiromakhudu3817
    @tiromakhudu3817 Місяць тому +1

    why has this socalled institute never been called out for the misnomer that it is?

  • @fredbantu3694
    @fredbantu3694 Місяць тому +10

    Gabriel and Gouws are the same kin folk they will defend each other. Why did the producer bring Crouse here ?

    • @anonymouslex782
      @anonymouslex782 Місяць тому +2

      Gabriel spoke nothing but truth and these days emotions such as your turns out to be the bigger than facts or logic

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Місяць тому

      Spoken by a TRUE, dyed-in-the-wool racist. Can't see differences in people, lump them all together in the same box....how sadly dumb !

    • @lastofthebrunnen-g
      @lastofthebrunnen-g Місяць тому

      You are either disingenuous or you haven't actually watched the video? 6:30 9:00

  • @thembindhlovu7234
    @thembindhlovu7234 Місяць тому +5

    his parents must be proud of him, i mean this is a learned behavior after all

    • @nobulawutwala2127
      @nobulawutwala2127 Місяць тому +1

      Yeap agreed and his parents must also employ him as well because I'm not confidant that he is employable now!

    • @jvanvuuren8461
      @jvanvuuren8461 Місяць тому

      Don't pull his parents in - they did not make the video.

    • @thembindhlovu7234
      @thembindhlovu7234 Місяць тому

      @@jvanvuuren8461 but they thought him the behavior, one doesn't just become racist from no where

  • @caroleknight4686
    @caroleknight4686 Місяць тому +2

    Highly biased reporter. She didn't get the responses she clearly wanted. Shame

    • @UviweMkupa
      @UviweMkupa Місяць тому

      Lol, only a racist apologist would say that

  • @rosehunter5140
    @rosehunter5140 Місяць тому +6

    Great interview. Well done Gabrielle.

  • @oratuwe8114
    @oratuwe8114 Місяць тому +5

    Give and tale here and there.. this is the first time I've mostly agreed with an IRR employee!

  • @gavinsaunders8997
    @gavinsaunders8997 Місяць тому +4

    K WORD ? do you even know what its means 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @user-in5re8lo5e
      @user-in5re8lo5e Місяць тому +5

      Why don't you tell us😊

    • @ShoniNemavhidi
      @ShoniNemavhidi Місяць тому

      ​@@user-in5re8lo5e According to Trevor Noah it means unbeliever. White people did not assign the word to themselves because they take their coffee with caffeine.

    • @nobulawutwala2127
      @nobulawutwala2127 Місяць тому

      Yes we do...its an Arabic word...it means heathen. The Dutch who are the predecessor of the Afrikaaners took this Arabic word for themselves and bastardized into something very ugly and used it to refer to Africans. By the way the Arabs, who also were not that great to Africans either, referred to Africans as heathens because we practiced a form of spirituality that they did not like, preferring that we practice Islam instead. The Afrikaaners and all racist non-Africans, use this word with the intent to create emotional and psychological harm. Often they use the "K" and "N" words on their way to Mosque, Temple and Church...Verwoed attended church too...I wonder which God he was praying to?

  • @revinot
    @revinot Місяць тому +1

    The problem started immediatly when he said he didnt see the whole video, but an editied version!!! I believe this is a version the majority of people have seen.
    I hope poeple saw the whole video, before they pass judgement and give their opinion. People miss the context of what was being said. This interview just proves that, Renaldo said he didnt mean what he said in that video and was saying just to get or provoke a reaction and get peoples attention... and by this media frenzy he proved himself right. Seems like everyone heard the slurs and reacted on that but no one understood the message.

  • @lengaumosotho
    @lengaumosotho Місяць тому +5

    So people are trying to say this Gouws fellow could not make the same point without being racist. He said racist things to make a point, but he is not racist, ok!

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 Місяць тому +2

      He was itching to use racial slurs. It wasn't enough to "call" for the k*lling of people "to prove a point", he ALSO had to use racial slurs. How ignorant was he really? 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @Jagged-mm7sb
    @Jagged-mm7sb Місяць тому +10

    This presenter look irretated with guy.

    • @user-in5re8lo5e
      @user-in5re8lo5e Місяць тому +4

      He is irritating

    • @nobulawutwala2127
      @nobulawutwala2127 Місяць тому

      @@user-in5re8lo5e So irritating!

    • @Papito_ZA
      @Papito_ZA Місяць тому

      Ke lekgowa 👀 .. Ba tena

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Місяць тому

      Of course she was irritated....she wasn't getting the answers she wanted....if you can honestly say you consider her "neutral", you need to re-visit a dictionary. She is just doing her job, working for the racist ANC regime.

  • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
    @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Місяць тому +22

    It says something about our hellscape when the head of the Institute of Race Relations in SOUTH AFRICA is this chap😂

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Місяць тому

      It says something about our justice system when you get a R150k fine for calling a certain group of people monkeys and get a fine of R30k for calling for the extermination of a different group of people.

    • @sfisomzobe6692
      @sfisomzobe6692 Місяць тому

      No wonder racism isn't even talked about, these guys just do fake polls and try to paint a picture of unity

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому

      He isn't the head.

    • @shafiyaalgiquadra1105
      @shafiyaalgiquadra1105 Місяць тому

      @@helenduplessis4166 well, you know what I mean, whenever the IRR is in discussion this is who gets wheeled out without fail. A testament to our unique position in this hellscape.

    • @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
      @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Місяць тому

      Someone not exposed to corruption.

  • @skeptik3258
    @skeptik3258 Місяць тому +10

    Ghastly journalism

  • @musajohannessithole8970
    @musajohannessithole8970 Місяць тому +6

    CIC Malema's chant was not found to be hate speech by the Court of law. Neither was CIC Malema found to be instigating violence.

    • @cloudstrife8791
      @cloudstrife8791 Місяць тому

      Bcz its not directed at blacks. Now a white practically proved that if whites do the same its wrong by the same courts double standards.

    • @marysinclair3759
      @marysinclair3759 Місяць тому +4

      That is still to be seen. Don't count your eggs before they hatch. Malemas arrogance will be his downfall and he needs no help from you or I lol...he will do it all by himself.

    • @silaskhalishwayo
      @silaskhalishwayo Місяць тому

      Malema sing a struggle song clowns 😂😂😂😂if that was a case wr all racist as black people singing against white supremacy 😊

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Місяць тому

      Your darling CIC is not far from being a PIC....Prisoner in Chains...he's a walking candidate for an orange overall. Evil piece of work.

  • @rthare1
    @rthare1 Місяць тому +4

    Naledi you are a terrible presenter, always trying to butt in and play your race card. Why do you always have to say YA , YA in the background. We are trying to listen to common sense.

  • @user-pn8og4jc9c
    @user-pn8og4jc9c Місяць тому +5

    Naledi clearly doesn't understand (or doesn't want to understand) the gentleman's explanation of context. She is going to have an absolute meltdown watching Django Unchained.

    • @yvonnememela918
      @yvonnememela918 Місяць тому +6

      She understands context quite well. What she refuses to do is accept feeble excuses from people who are trying to defend the indefensible.

    • @user-pn8og4jc9c
      @user-pn8og4jc9c Місяць тому +2

      @@yvonnememela918 Nobody is defending this guy. What this DA MP said was inexcusable and he should be tried in court just as Malema was. Naledi got hot under the collar about her feelings when this guy was just speaking facts.

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому

      ​@@user-pn8og4jc9cabsolutely I think she believes racism only goes one way which is not true.

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Місяць тому +1

    What is different

  • @jazzytza5514
    @jazzytza5514 Місяць тому

    Great questions from Naledi. Thank you for standing on business wena ngwaneso, appreciated ❤

  • @charlesvanonselen6251
    @charlesvanonselen6251 Місяць тому +1

    Did you watch the entire video or not? Context is key! You are biased if you do not watch the entire video because you will miss the context within he uses the phrase! You are literally accusing him of what he said is wrong!!! How biased is this presenter?

  • @thabomathe5960
    @thabomathe5960 Місяць тому

    The funny thing here is that context matters when it suits them, this is the same Gabriel Crouse that failed to give context to the struggle song

  • @rthare1
    @rthare1 Місяць тому +6

    WOW Naledi was put in her place nicely. Her questions were really racist and stupid.

    • @user-in5re8lo5e
      @user-in5re8lo5e Місяць тому +1

      Calling the kettle.....

    • @rthare1
      @rthare1 Місяць тому +1

      @@user-in5re8lo5e I don't know how to take that now. Are you calling the kettle 'white', it's so confusing these days,

    • @margaretlesoleso
      @margaretlesoleso Місяць тому +1

      Be a journalist and work under ethnics, then you'd sing a different song🙄🙄🙄

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 Місяць тому

      ​@@rthare1😂😂

    • @rthare1
      @rthare1 Місяць тому

      @@margaretlesoleso Try work with ethics, its harder.

  • @thomasprogli3372
    @thomasprogli3372 Місяць тому

    Well this is South Africa where violence is so present that people get more hung up about a word - as insulting as it is - than the actual inciting violence -encouraging people to take the actual lives of others.

  • @marabunya
    @marabunya Місяць тому +4

    This shouldn't shock us at all because we know all too well that white South Africans speak about black South Africans in that same tone and belief whenever they get together in their private braais and social media groups. DA also seems to say there are levels to racism and that some levels of racism are acceptable to them because instead of acting harshly to correct their official, they want to sugarcoat and explain what could've happened.

  • @japrosper7240
    @japrosper7240 Місяць тому +5

    Why did I listen to this ??????

  • @malnaai6467
    @malnaai6467 Місяць тому +1

    Gabriel walked a tight rope there.

  • @veresanpillay4646
    @veresanpillay4646 Місяць тому +1

    Words in front of awebcam is different to using in public,,in reality many Boers were killed,,for what

  • @user-cx7kg5lw3i
    @user-cx7kg5lw3i Місяць тому

    Well done, you stopped his bs and told him the reality he looked like he'd wet himself

  • @marklowe5386
    @marklowe5386 Місяць тому

    Why is the word "Mlungu" not deemed as derogatory????

    • @tashansofwa2426
      @tashansofwa2426 Місяць тому

      Because it’s not derogatory. It’s the Nguni word for white

    • @RSVPrr
      @RSVPrr 14 днів тому

      Was it used to degrade?

  • @andreasansotta4974
    @andreasansotta4974 27 днів тому

    Ask yourself how did this video resurface when it was deleted after it was made....Someone would need to have access to youtube's archives.....The is all manipulation. Why isn't the source revealed or even discussed?

  • @andilematshanda6825
    @andilematshanda6825 Місяць тому

    ive never been so confused

  • @judekok6176
    @judekok6176 Місяць тому

    Wow I wish that I had had context when my teacher saw me hit that other child at school when I was 12

  • @mxolisimakhubo6077
    @mxolisimakhubo6077 Місяць тому

    If you search for the origins of the IRR you know why he thinks like this.

  • @ashwinmark1849
    @ashwinmark1849 Місяць тому

    We need the veterans that fully understand the racial matters to explain because most post apartheid people might not understand how to respond to this matters Government needs to do serious intervention if not this will get worse

  • @APConsept
    @APConsept Місяць тому

    What a point of the same person to condemn himself.
    Just ask him to repeat whatvis said work for word please

  • @tumelothobejane4284
    @tumelothobejane4284 Місяць тому

    It's the way they protect each other iyoh😩

  • @premillaarchary7510
    @premillaarchary7510 Місяць тому +1

    Many a time the word "coolie," was used. Because we practice passive energy, and leave low, unethical people to stew and wallow in their own thoughts, we rise above constantly and concentrate on positive energy.
    We have to learn to move on in a dignified manner.
    IF the billions were not stolen in the last 30yrs, each one of South Africa's children would have owned a house by now, and we would have used our energy into raising our families becoming sustainable and being a true 🌈 RAINBOW NATION. WE ALL FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM.
    LET US UNITE AND PROTECT EACH OTHER FROM OUTSIDE CALAMITIES THAT THE GALAXY THROWS OUR WAY.
    MOVE ONWARD AND UPWARD SOUTH AFRICANS.....OUR MOUNTAINS SHOULD START ECHOING AND WE SHOULD START HEARING THE DRUMS NOW THAT WE HAD ENTERED A NEW ERA IN GOVERNANCE.

    • @markriordan9010
      @markriordan9010 Місяць тому

      Agree, Blacks are SO easily triggered by certain words or phrases...it's never nice to deliberately put somebody down or belittle them, but geez! It happens...learn to grow a thicker skin, and accept that when somebody "offends" you they are placing themselves below you...move on !!! I am referred to as a "Soutie" sometimes by Afrikaners, and a settler, colonizer, imperialist, member of the "White Monopoly Capital" community, beneficiary of apartheid and many other terms, I don't exactly think they endear me to the source, but I choose to tell myself that I beed to "take it from where it cometh"....and move on.

  • @helenduplessis4166
    @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому

    Thanks Gabriel!

  • @bonganimalinga3967
    @bonganimalinga3967 Місяць тому

    To have Gabriel Crouse's opinion on matters such as this is very comical. I can't with deal! His track record speaks for itself

  • @blessinggumede9445
    @blessinggumede9445 28 днів тому +1

    I have heard Afrikaanse people call themselves "boers" for example "boer maak 'n plaan" to this day I am yet to hear a black person call themselves the K word. No brother, you are mistaken here. Words without context still have context

  • @martinshabangu9854
    @martinshabangu9854 Місяць тому

    There things that are forgivable and there are things that aren’t…and this is one of them

  • @user-of9of
    @user-of9of Місяць тому +3

    Why does the media refuse to show the entire video?

  • @BJamnes29
    @BJamnes29 Місяць тому

    Historical these guys haven't changed.

  • @sanelemkhwanazi8151
    @sanelemkhwanazi8151 Місяць тому +3

    Anyone ask themselves WHO and HOW are folks like this guy are appointed ?! Hes actually defending the racist behavior without being explicit

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Місяць тому +5

    Who about black man rapping black women

    • @user-in5re8lo5e
      @user-in5re8lo5e Місяць тому +5

      As if you care

    • @liveinwisdom3610
      @liveinwisdom3610 Місяць тому

      @@user-in5re8lo5e Lol... when one of theirs are in the spot light for BS, they quick to suddenly care about people of color .Hilarious, so predictable.

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому +2

      Crime is truly out of hand in this country.

    • @RSVPrr
      @RSVPrr 14 днів тому

      ​@@helenduplessis4166 do White men not rape?

  • @dineothwane8394
    @dineothwane8394 29 днів тому

    What is the meaning of the word KAFFIR?

  • @pet-jn5bi
    @pet-jn5bi Місяць тому

    This guy thinks he's the guy that he is and he is!😎

  • @user-ez9en7vk2z
    @user-ez9en7vk2z Місяць тому

    Storm in teacup.
    Typical ironic decoy tactics in South Africa.
    Who drove the campaign against him?
    Whats her name? Who funds her and where does she live?
    Clearly she an agent of MK.

  • @vuyanitheo971
    @vuyanitheo971 Місяць тому

    I need to get what this guy is on😂😂😂😂😂

  • @leonabrahams6681
    @leonabrahams6681 Місяць тому +8

    This lady doing the interview is not listening to what he is saying ( context ) when you put it in context you understand better which she is refusing to do 🤦🏽

  • @zebinmarais4697
    @zebinmarais4697 Місяць тому +6

    Even though the reporter is racist, this is the first non racist interviewee’s version we heard in this case! Well said bro! Makes a lot of sense.

    • @zukai9733
      @zukai9733 Місяць тому

      HHAHAHAHAHAH reporter racist? at some point white people need to realise that at some point you will face the wrath of the black population. There is no philosophy, no theory and amount of spin that can make what Gouws correct,

    • @yvonnememela918
      @yvonnememela918 Місяць тому +2

      What makes the reporter racist?

    • @MbuleloDyakop-ik7zx
      @MbuleloDyakop-ik7zx Місяць тому

      Reporter is racist?

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 Місяць тому +2

      Do you know what racist even means or did you learn that word this week and now you're sprinkling it everywhere, like in your comment above?

  • @helenduplessis4166
    @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому

    Ai! Not the best way to make a point.

  • @wjcvwcrsa
    @wjcvwcrsa Місяць тому

    If a black politician of South Africa, not of the DA political party, uses the k-word colloquially, does it hold the same implication/effect as if a white South African said it? Is it about the race of the person who says it, irrespective of context?

  • @Mfethu
    @Mfethu Місяць тому

    Deflection deflection.... the K or N does not equate to Boer... he wanted to trend and offend which he has (16 years after)... now he must account

    • @helenduplessis4166
      @helenduplessis4166 Місяць тому +1

      And the context does not matter?

    • @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
      @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Місяць тому

      Once again - context.
      The big picture.

    • @RSVPrr
      @RSVPrr 14 днів тому

      ​@@helenduplessis4166 no it doesn't. Your parents raised you wrong

  • @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz
    @MarkHutchinson-ry9sz Місяць тому +3

    Context please - not jumping to conclusions.
    Reversing what Malema said.
    Gouws exposed mainstream media hence the bias.

  • @johankruger605
    @johankruger605 Місяць тому

    2 words he should not have used thats not repeated by me makes it wrong!!!

  • @bhekifamthembu7283
    @bhekifamthembu7283 Місяць тому

    Why is this guy being interviewed cause he is not making sense.

  • @MamaMama-kq1fx
    @MamaMama-kq1fx Місяць тому +2

    The big issue is killing as black people is rapping and killing of as to each other