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Anyone who can pull off a rebuild without going under .500 , sets a high bar for coaches!!
Mat Lefleur went from a Hall of Fame QB to the Next Franchise QB and back to winning in the playoffs in one off-season with the youngest team in the league. That's setting a high bar.
@@cesarmeza5331he had Aaron Rogers and a 3rd draft pick. The front office is much better.
@@cesarmeza5331 Matt LaFleur also had a veteran QB2 waiting in the wings to be QB1. What's your point? Matt LaFleur also had a losing season already and went 9-8 last year with Jordan Love. Mike Tomlin went 9-8 in the AFC North with Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky and Mason Rudolph.
@@dsess2001 I rather be 8-9 one year and be back playing winnning playoff football in one year than be in 9-8 limbo forever. And why does he get a pass for not being able to develop QB, or not hiring good coordinators. They had more than enough time now to replace Big Ben and haven't done jack shit. Now they bring a washed up Wilson and a bust in JF, that's probably the next excuse
@@dsess2001 veteran QB2??? The hell you are talking about
One point on Tomlin's side--he was able to maintain order when he had some very volatile players. You never knew about the volatility until the player left.
Who’s fault was that he’s the head coach
It's been 7 YEARS since the Steelers won a playoff game.
I am not a Steeler fan i am a Bronco but this may be the best team explaination i have seen by these too guys. They both made sence! I like it,,,,
No defense other than heyward and watt? Minkah? Queen? JPJ? Benton? Highsmith? Read your notes bro
SO, what have they done, bro??
@@rooz3805 Made Millions while you flipping burgers
I don't think he was speaking about this current season or even last year...I think he just meant over the past several years. Granted, Minkah definitely should have been on the list, but I digress.
My man what are you saying!!!!!!
Turns out Pittsbughers made the same complaint during Knoll and Cowher's tenures, so I chalk it up to fan arrogance. I am ride or die since 1978.
I’m a fan since 78 myself. Spot on comment
The Bengals and the Ravens are also old school. Harbaugh has been with the Ravens for around 20 years. Marvin Lewis was with the Bengals for at
Least 16 years. Taylor entering his 6th year. Very little coach turnover. The only time a coach leaves is for a bigger promotion with another team. For the most part they promote from
Withinn the organization. All this gives you an advantage.
What people don't understand is that the Steelers Organization is not a cut throat organization. Everyone Knew Big Ben's Last 2 or 3 Years that he was a declining QB that the Steelers should have replaced, but out of Respect for what he accomplished the Steelers let him ride it out. Big Ben earned that! Other elements to the equation: Shazier Freakish retirement, Tuitt Freakish Retirement, Dwayne Haskins loss. Now, Tomlin's 3-year Extension will ignite a 3-year Super Bowl Run starting with the 2024 Steelers. Just add WR Courtland Sutton, OLB Golden, DT Calais Campbell and this team will be complete! Free Agents sign with the Steelers not for the $$$$ but because of Coach Mike Tomlin! The Steelers Organization never exploited this due to the traditional of strictly Drafting and Developing. Now, with The "Kahn" Artist a new regime and ideology of Roster Building by spending money on Free agents is a viable option.
What Dwayne Haskins loss? He never took a snap in the Steelers uniform, and would have continued to be a bust if he did.
Lost Tuitt, Shazier, Bryant, Bell, and Brown almost all at once
@@mc1993bro dude is dead… don’t talk like that… you don’t know nothin
Mike Tomlin didn't want Ben to go he was hanging on to him for dear life and trying to milk every last ounce of football out of him. The guy's a hack and they just make excuses for him because he's black. He hasn't done more with less the Steelers have been loaded during his tenure. He's just always outcoached, can't rein in his players, can't develop offensive players and has the benefit of working for one of the best organizations in the league especially when it pertains to the draft. How many terrible looking offensive players in his system leave and become serviceable contributors elsewhere. Y'all need to stop hyping this guy up like he's Bill Belichick or Andy Reid, he's not even Bill Cowher who set the table for his success. Winning off his success and then when it was his team to set the table he did nothing but burn the meal. What Lovie Smith and Jim Caldwell did was incredibly especially since their teams and organizations were nowhere near as good as Mike Tomlin's has been. They just didn't have the luxury of organizational stability.
WOW guy Crower and Noll had losing seasons. Tomlin is a great coach. 2nd best in Steelers history.
Dont let any fake Steelers fans mislead you that the city team and fans dont love Tomlin. We all do... winning super bowl chips isn't easy. 20 years without a losing season is absolutely ridiculous
Totally agree and it isn't easy, especially winning. Ask some of the NFL teams that consistently loose and obtain top picks more consistent than not. Sure, he has his flaws, but which coach doesn't. It is no doubt he has done more with less and if you really watch football, you understand this. Sure, we want to get over this playoff drought and I believe we can. I'd rather extend Tomlin than go through this cycle of three or four losing head coaches just for the sake of change. Also, don't forget Tomlin could have left as well.
Hard to believe Steelers fans are alright with not having a playoff win since 2016
@@RB-.-if you look at the teams we’ve had for the past 8 years.. what makes you think we were gonna win one in the first place?
@@dylanm394swear wit that weak ass defense when we had the killer bs all we had was shazier on defense that’s it
Lol. He's the reason you're in the position you were in last year. His time is done or near 😊
Very solid coach I think it's a wise decision for both sides.
There’s maybe 5 coaches in the history of the sport who go 10-7 and 5-1 in the division with Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky, and Mason Rudolph.
Doubt that many would them 3 alone are back up to 3rd stringers at best😂
One minute Steeler fans are bragging about winning with those QBs..then when they lose it’s because of those qbs..which one is it..do you want them or not??
@CvFromMiami Id take Fitzpatrick over all of them. Mason is decent at best
I say maybe 3 coaches in history put 5 is a good number as well...the key is IN ALL OF HISTORY!!
That's why it will be poetic last playoff win Kansas city next playoff win win be Kansas city
As a Steelers fan, I appreciate Tomlin. Usually, a coach's success revolves around the QB. His division is the hardest division in football, surrounded with better QBs, and he still competes. In the last 10 years, who won all of the Superbowls? Top tier QB's
As a Steelers fan I hate to say it but the ravens have a much better team and Ravens have only won 1 out of the last 6 against Pittsburgh! Think about our qbs during that time and o-line…. Coaching has a lot to do with it.
@@slizzo25well put
Props to tomlin. Down to the. Haters.
Congrats to Steelers fans, 3 more years of being slightly over 500 and first round exit...🎉🎉🎉
Bro won the division with Duck Dodgers as his starting QB🤣🤣🤣. Mason, Mitch, and Kenny Pickett all left and became 2nd and 3rd stringers. Mike Tomlin took all that trash to the playoffs.
Talent is not the issue. I like how they add "lately" to do more with less. 3 playoff wins in 14 years. NO coaching tree.
Mike Vrabel. Bruce Arians
Yea he has done really well with bad talent the last few years. But what about his playoff success when he has had really good teams . The loss against jacksonville was inexcusable
Big ben Threw 2 or 3 picks and lost a fumbled.
@Reecesavage-Alwayswin try 5 tds 1 int 469 yards against tge number 1 defense in the league lol. The defense let a rookie Leonard fournette rush for over a 100 and score 3 tds. This game was not on Big Ben lol
@Reecesavage-Alwayswin the jags put up 38 points of offense and scored one defensive td that ben fumbled. No way that jags team should hang 38 on anybody lol probably the most they scored the entire year offensively. Mike tomlins defense in the playoffs of late have been garbage.
@ericworthington4893 I'm thinking of a different 2018 game, then. They did lose that game, but not by much.
And yet, the Steelers refusing to take the necessary hurt to get themselves in the position for a franchise QB will continue to plague them.
In most cases Great coaching will get you to the playoffs, great players have to step up from there bc in most cases all playoff teams are well coached (most). Give tomlin a game changer at QB and see what happens. An injury riddled big ben, and kenny pickett, mason rudolph aren’t going to beat guys like patrick mahomes, josh allen, lamar jackson, cj stroud, joe burrow in the playoffs. period
Arthur Smith had no quarterback either in Atlanta
I would Love for ANYONE show me where ANY TEAM the Steelers had after 2010 was Better or Equal to that 2010 or 2008 per position.. People Think Winning is Easy.. How many HOFs did Noll Need to Win ONLY 4 Bowls out of 23 Years. Tomlin wasn't the One to Lower Ben's Pay Check which took Most of the Cap Space... Mike Tomlin take Average Guys and Make them Pro's .. Show Me Where Belicheats won with a Duck Hodges... 😂😂😂 Lombardis are the Goal.. Playoffs are You Almost Had Its.. No One Cares in an ALPHA Sport for 2nd Place. Cowher took 15 Years before he actually won from a Wild Card Spot and Lost the Following Year. When Tomlin Goes The Steelers will go back to those Years of Not Winning.. 2 QBs Own All 6 Rings. What were You watching when those 2 Weren't playing..
Tomlin has a big voice in the steelers organization
you work there??
Mike Tomlin could coach a JV team with a QB that has 1 arm to a state title. But Tomlin isn't the best with innovating the offense which leads the steelers to either be 1 and done in the playoffs or go 9-8
Tomlin drafts those players. Colbert & Khan would not draft those players without Tomlin's approval. Reaching for Pickett? Waiting till Ben retires before drafting a QB when he knew Ben was in his last years. Terrible using the clock. Mediocre seasons and he gets a 3 year?! He picks his coaches. Haven't done anything since 2017.
The irony is that the same guy that affords these fake fans the ability to cry about averaging 10 wins a season for 17 years, is the same guy they are whining about.
Uhhhh Chris Simms really just said the defense has fallen off hahaha. Benton and JPJ going into year 2, they signed an All Pro LB and drafted Payton Wilson. Elando Roberts is a bad mother F’er but I digress. They upgraded the entire Defensive backfield and LB depth chart.
Steelers haven't realistically had a chance at the SB since 2017. Probably won't be for another decade or longer if they don't get a franchise QB. Russ and Fields are band aids to keep the winning season streak going.
It's not the Steelers way to tank on purpose like other teams, QBs are always a crap shoot, I'd rather watch my team win half the games until we get lucky than watch them loose like th lions did for decades or the browns or the jags etc.
@madmartigan8119 Nobody says you have to tank. Of course it's better for the fans. I'm just saying it feels more like they are just riding the line of relevance. Tomlinson was blessed with Cowers SB roster. Then fell short ever since. He was blessed with a franchise QB his whole career. So it will be interesting to see when he has to go fetch. So far it's just been mediocrity
Did Mike Tomlin draft Mason? Did he draft Kenny? The answers are of course not-he’s not the GM. The Steelers have had the worst QB in their division and bottom two or three QB play in the conference for several years. In today’s NFL, that ain’t getting you deep in the playoffs, let alone to the Super Bowl. But the Steelers have kept it together and fielded playoff/playoff adjacent teams. Very few clubs have lost a HoF QB and done that immediately after. Denver, Indy, and New England are all still in the wilderness. But that’s not the Standard. It’s Super Bowl or the team’s a failure. Hence the blame game with Mike taking the brunt.
The national media loves him. The people of Pittsburgh not as much. Hasn't done anything for the Steelers in years playoff loses. Poor offense an extension seems odd
He's one of the winningest coaches of all time, (tied at 11th all time), he's had playoff losses yes, but that's because he's coached crappy teams to the seventh seed to get slaughtered multiple times. It's quite likely he ends his career as the winningest coach of all time, and I'm sure the steelers would want to be the team he does it with. (He started coaching significantly earlier than anyone above him, at least at the HC position)
20 years without a losing record. Please don't speak for us fans or people of Piitsburgh bc you are wrong
@@deathhimself1653 in the past not for a number of years. He was excellent
@@patrickmel8728 everybody says that last 7 or 8 years. Not good not bad right in the middle irrelevant. 9 and 8 or so. Is this what you want to continue
Hasn’t had a quarterback in quite a while
quiet strenght mentions another rooney hire
I like Tomlin. That said this is a ridiculous notion. Tomlin squandered the prime Ben years with the killer Bs mainly due to his horrible defensive failures. Add in the fact he was owned by Brady and BB. Tomlin insisted on playing zone against Brady for a solid decade lol. First time he played exclusively man with a lesser Defense no less they actually won…
Hmmmmm.. the Steelers offense wasnt good for the last 4 or 5 years.... hmmm no AB no Leveon bell. Thats why 😂😂
Or maybe the surprise retirement of a top 5 oline that had to be rebuilt and didn't work. Also, having Matt Canada as OC doesn't help either.
He's the TAN Jason Garrett.
.500 - .600 coach
Consecutive years without making Playoffs, or getting past the 1st round
*if he does NOT go .800 or highter, with THIS ROSTER...HE HAS TO GOOOOO!
Tomlin has been to 2 super bowls, you racist
“Hasn’t been a playoff win in a few years.” Brother it’s coming up on a decade now. Last time the Steelers won a playoff game the killer B’s were still relevant.
Noll did not win a playoff game after 84 seasons, and he coached 8 more seasons.
no playoff wins since 2016 but until they get a top 10 qb it will always be 9-8 and maybe playoffs
10-7 is not 9-8…5-1 in the AFC North…
@@amsey3700 yea but 5-6 vs everyone else cuz steelers always play down to the competition
@@seymourblankbanks5589 add the trash Trubitsky losses to that 5-6…changes the narrative doesn’t it
@@amsey3700 exactly thats why yall need a qb imagine a top 10 qb with yall defense 🔥
Tomlin over achieved with HOF Roethlisberger, prime AB, and Bell. He had a tough time with the talent on all those top 5 defenses hes had since 2007....He's had horrible luck drafting good WR after good WR....like who tf are we kiddin here?!
This middle aged lesbian really loves to suck the Steelers off doesnt Florio?
Good luck lol
He picks ALL THE TALENT! I worked in that office for 25 years !
I've noticed that analysts and commentators love Mike Tomlin because they've said he's the most friendly coach and gives them the most insider access. Lots of bias going on
I feel bad for you steeler fans…… yall bout to be 8-8 for 3 more years…
TOMLIN won with cowhers players.. STRAIGHT UP!
I feel bad you don't know there are 17 games in a season
Well that's good that they care. But been pretty irrelevant in the NFL for awhile boring, medicore and playoff loses
Do more with less?..don't act like he hasn't had more..He's had more "Mores" than less and that's for sure.
Tomlin is great at motivating, not so great at X's and O's. He looked like a fool vs the Hoodie multiple times.
Got cheated by the hoodie multiple times.
Who beat Brady? The Giants and no one else.
@@mjamitche5245Eagles did in 2017 also, genius
Chris, please ask your colleague Mike Flores, I mean Florio, how it feels to be owned by Demeatrice Lamar Jackson?
Touch grass
Dude! We are something like 8=2 against Lamar Jackson.
Tomlin is the king of "just above average" 9-8 record incoming
Yep he is a better mans Jeff Fisher.
The problem Steelers fans have is that their players always cause drama (showing signs that Tomlin can't keep the team together), the current OC misused the 1st round offensive talents he had in Atlanta, the general dysfunction at the QB position for the past several years, etc.
Does more with less? Mike Florio and Simms obviously have no knowledge at all of the rosters we've had over the last 15 years
This whole narrative that Tomlin does 'more with less' is total BS. Tomlin is involved in every aspect of this team. He always gets credit for overcoming slow starts but isn't he responsible for the slow starts? What about hiring bad coordinators and coaches? For being stubborn in his approach (or lack there of)? For bad player evaluations and player decisions? Don't kid yourself. He's running the show. He's involved as much as the GM on the construction of the team. C'mon This national media opinion of Tomlin is a joke and just shows they have no real knowledge of this organization.
Tomlin is overrated in my opinion.
3-8 in the playoffs his last 13 seasons!
Zero playoff wins his last 7 seasons....
Doesn't call plays on either side of the ball. Isn't a GM coach.
Had a Hall of Fame QB for the vast majority of his stint there.
He's plateaued bad....Just enough to not have a losing season, bad enough to really never win a playoff game.
He's been riding on that Super Bowl win like 15 seasons ago...
Well, with all new QBs, a new OC and the one of the toughest schedules the last 20 seasons, it's not looking good for Mediocre Mike Tomlin. TJ Watt is the best defensive player in the NFL and he hasn't even won his first playoff game. EVER!!!!! There are children who are Steelers fans who are 7 to 14 years old who have never seen the Steelers win a playoff game or can't remember it because they were too young. It amazes me how fans are okay with this and how the ass kissing media never mentions his failures. Super Bowl teams usually take 4 or 5 seasons together before they win the big game and you think this will change because of Russel Wilson or Justin Fields? Be prepared. It's gonna be a bumpy season.
Whose fault is it that they have "less" than desired?!
The squealer fans are not happy. Love their misery!l😅😅😅I love Coach T❤❤❤❤ .
It always baffles me the “fans” who call for his firing. There’s a reason for his longevity. A true leader of men who commands respect with the intention to actually coach and develop players, many of which, have had checkered pasts. Salute Coach T. A goat 🫡
A lot of Steeler fans are spoiled. Never had to pull for a consistently losing franchise. Others have old school feelings towards Tomlin.....consciously and subconsciously.
With that being said, congrats Coach T.......grateful to have as our coach.
Tomlin is overrated by the media. Steelers love being stuck around.500 though
@@PhoenixPrime396great way to dance around the fact a lot of people don't like his skin color
@@jamewright6651Can you not like the fact that his playoff record has been awful for about a decade without making about race
@@jamewright6651 Not my words but aye......if you're from Pittsburgh, you know.
WHY does NBC always use this pic of Tomlin. Not very flattering.
I think they just use the NFL official coach photos. Not their fault Tomlin had 17 shots of espresso before he went in for picture day 😂
It's a normal picture, his eyes are big. What are you talking about? You might as well call him ugly.
As a black man, wtf are you talking about 😂
Look Mike tomlin is a multi multi millionaire and still ain’t got his Canine tooth fixed. He don’t gaf abt none but ball lmao
Exactly! It’s just wrong…I hate this deer in headlights photo! 😂
Getting lucky is not good coaching. What Reid has done vs Tomlin?.. it's laughable. Tomlin sucks
Reid was considered a good coach until he went to Kansas City and got mahomes. There was a reason Philadelphia let go of him. Then he gets a top 3 qb all time and now he’s considered great
Tomlin is the opposite of luck... he's got skill
I would much rather the team I root for be too loyal, be too late to fire people, and be too consistent. Look at Cleveland. Look at Jacksonville. Look at the teams that don't have consistency. That's the other side of that coin. Given the option, I want 3 coaches in 55 years.
The Steelers are a great team in hindsight great decisions! You can't run an NFL team the way guys play fantasy football and some hate Tomlin for that. Tomlin proves fantasy football strategies are for the Browns. Anyone really want to trade team histories???
Stop. He was never considering other options. He has a daily relationship with Steelers ownership. He loves coaching football - he has never indicated any interest in any other option to coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers to anybody. The whole narrative was reckless speculation. He has the best job in all of sport. That’s been his testimony. Please stop projecting.
Who's done better than Tomlin post franchise QB? Not Giants not colts he hasn't had a good qb since rothlisberger
Bro they haven’t done anything in over 7 years? Stop being a cornball
Casual fans blame the coach. Tomlin is the man. We didn't win a superbowl in awhile. Neither did 31 other teams last year . We are in a brutal conference and he has always had a winning season. We have had the worst OC of all time and Ben was washed his last 3 years and we brought in bots at qb. Love Tomlin
Yes, fans that don't pay attention to the big picture and how NFL organization work and how the process is to put a playoff caliber winning team together just always blame 1 person. Some fan bases, it's just the owner. Some fan bases, its just the HC. Some fan bases, its just the GM. When in reality it's a group of people who supposed to be working together who all play a part in putting a playoff caliber team together and coaching them. You got the Owner, The GM, some Asst Gm's, the scout team, The HC, and the coaching staff.
Tomlin has had great teams.
Injuries and bad juju’s (no pun intended) 😂 and missing pieces, mental mistakes changed some of the games
1;55 I can gladly say, I never once said fire Coach T. Having washed up Ben throwing interceptions in playoff games at the end of his career & then you get Kenny Pickett, cool dude, no offense but he just didn’t pan out, then you had Mitch who just wast it, & then you had Mason who was the best of the 3 but it was too little too late, that’s not on Coach T, he still coached the Steelers to winning season after winning season & even made the playoffs last year.
Tomlin has had input into the roster for a long time- kenny pickett was his guy- these guys seem petty clueless for a couple of "insiders"
KP was the only first rd qb left within his range with the 20th pick. Uninformed comment
The casual disrespect for Mike Tomlin over the years is insane to me
Yes it's understood that not winning in playoffs has been an issue.
But who exactly would we replace Coach T with?
I just don't understand the hate for a top tier HC.
Mike Tomlin is a great coach. I wouldn't trade him for any other HC in the league.
We to spoiled bro that's why...If we got another coach trust me, they may win a few...but I am 100% sure they are not winning like coach T.
@@lagoontoursbahamas6380 Completely agree!
Do more with less! Ben, Bell, A.B martavius Bryant? He shouldve of won 2 more rings. Tomlin won a with a great D and Ben! Name another season he was good without the D or Ben
...AB and Bell were never healthy for a playoff run together.
M.TOMLIN COACH FOR THE STEELERS HEAD COACH OF THE YEAR🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂❤❤😅
Tomlin has managed to do more with less, and less with more...just like Marty Schottenheimer. I like HC Mike Tomlin, but I just understand reasoned expectations of it is what it is.
3 head coaches and how many trophies? anyone calling for a tomlin firing is an idiot
Many fans love putting the blame on one person instead of understanding how NFL organization are ran and how many people in an organization play an important part in putting together a playoff caliber team including (The Owner, GM, Asst GM, HC, Scouts, Coaching staff), so all of them are to blame for the struggles. Many fans seem to not know how much Art Rooney ll plays in the decisions. The HC's and coaching staff can only push mediocre players so far. They just have to work with what players they have. The Steelers have not had a full talented team capable of at least getting to the SB in awhile with all the players that aged and mistakes they made in recent drafts. There have been many changes around Tomlin (Omar, Andy, Smith, some scouts and some position coaches). Let's hope this new group works well together and can put a playoff caliber team together. It could take Omar, Andy and the others 3 off seasons and drafts to really get the offense rebuilt. Many haters here should listen to Florio and Simms here. They are pointing out many true things
Bro Mike know what’s up. The Rooneys are finally letting Tomlin be Tomlin. I’m in Pittsburgh.. I know!
Mike tomlin is a god damn great coach bro. Like you don’t win a playoff game w the QB play we’ve had and those wild card matchups against the chiefs twice n bills once like let’s just be real it’s unreal hes had a winning record in those years
100% agree. As a life long Steelers fan I can not begin to understand why people want him fired. He is one of the best coaches in NFL history. He has earned the ability to be where he is.
Let go somewhere else most of us Steelers fans are over his lack of playoff success
He’s mediocre and we want him gone
You have no idea as you are not a lifelong Steelers fan and so you can’t even argue that
“More with less” hahahahaha he took over a team with a franchise HOF QB and SB talented rosters 97% of his head coaching career here.
Huh?!?!?! I dont agree with this Tomlin has literally all-pros on all sides of the ball his entire tenure. He hasnt won as much as i thought he would with the talent he has and continues to draft
Can we please get a new stock photo of Tomlin? Poor guy been looking like he saw a ghost or someone caught him farting on these graphics for like 10 years lmao
It's been 7 years since a playoff win. What other coach would still have a job with that fact?
Any so-called fan that thinks they can do a better job coaching, then go to the front office and tell Mr. Rooney to give you a shot at coaching.
I love that the stars want to play for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers!!!
Chris bro u the best! fucking great. Man I love hearing things from your prospective
The Steelers are cheap ! Point blank period !
Will he out last Chuck Noll’s 24 years?
Loved listening to the both of you on Mike T. Thanks!
More with less? Please.
best coach in the game
Another three years of mediocrity, any success will and should be credited to Arthur Smith and Rooney for finally laying down the law.
The only record they ever talk about is his never losing season, what about the last 10 years of Playoff records, effectively wasting Roethlisberger's LEGACY.
If you want a great sound bite, Mike Tomlin's your guy! If you want to coach that won't waste the extraordinary Talent Mike has had at his disposal, then we have to hope for Arthur Smith!
Your argument is Arthur Smith not wasting talent? Go talk to Falcons fans and see how far you get
I’m no Steelers fan but I think Tomlin’s been there too long. To me most coaches have a decade “shelf life” tops with any organization. There have been a few exceptions. Shula. Bellichick. Noll. Maybe the Vikings coach from the 70s. But after a decade it grows stale.
At what point is the lack of a playoff win enough to say goodbye? How about the end of this contract? That would mean 11 years! Or would it still be everyone's fault but Tomlin's that the team can't win a meaningful game? Will Florio and Simms still be singing Tomlin's praises if he has a winning record each of the next 4 years but still no playoff victories?
Where else in pro sports does years of mediocrity get you an extension and fan base praise?
San Antonio. Ever since Duncan, Parker, Ginobili all retired, Coach Pop and the Spurs have been right there in mediocrity too 😆
Leadership....???? Yeah, they never have locker room problems. Juju Claypool D.J G.P
DJ and GP aren't and where never locker room problems
@Lets_Go_UW did you forget about DJs antics last year and them shipping him to Carolina
I think his wife will close her boutique before Mike Tomlin leaves the Steelers
More with less? Or consistently mediocre without Big Ben
Consistently mediocre with Ben for his last few years
@@amsey3700 Consistently mediocre overall. The only times they did anything come postseason was when Brady or Manning weren't in their way lol
@@russellayers3408 I guess Brady & Manning evaporated the 2 years we went to the Superbowl. Mediocre is you listing defeat to 2 HOF QBs. What are those HOF QBs former coaches doing…nuthing
Your argument is that he is mediocre with less than mediocre QB play. No, he has been consistently average with terrible QB play. Any other coach the last 3 years with Matt Canada would have had 5 wins or less. Adjust your expectations of the team. The expectations are higher than what they should be because they are the Steelers.
Mike Tomlin “managing a game to perfection” 🤣🤣🤣 Fire up another doobie Chris, you are high!!!!
Sims' needle got stuck again just after the 3 minute mark
Hes doing the same now as he was when he had more
The argument florio is making for Tomlin is the same argument he and others use AGAINST Aaron Rodgers 💀
Haven’t been able to run the ball since Bell? I guess Najee hasn’t passed 1000 yards 3 seasons straight. I guess we don’t have a dog at RB2 in Warren who also had 1000 yards all purpose
Aren't there fans who wanted Najee gone because he didn't average 4.0 ypc? The only time Najee had a great oline was when Broderick was inserted into the lineup in the last 8 games last year. He got 1000 yards because volume. The oline was so terrible that Najee and Jaylen have both been in the bottom 5 of being contacted within 1 yard or behind the line of scrimmage.
You also had Kenny Pickett 😂
So why does Tomlin have less?
discipline and accountability.
Winning seasons. Not getting top draft picks
and he did a lot less with more back when he had Big Ben and only managed to win 1 ring
1 ring with mostly Bill Cowher's staff and Dick LaBau's defense. The guy hasn't been able to put together a SB roster with his guys for as long as he's been there. You ask me, he should've been gone a while ago. Just because he coasted through each year with Big Ben and barely winning 10 games doesn't make you a great coach. It means you're good enough to barely win 10 games with a great QB. Once Ben started to fall off, Tomlin got exposed.
Your front office and GM are shit. You'd be doing a lot worse with another carousel of coaches the past several years. You're in a hard division where everyone else's rosters are better. Blame the GM. The team has exceeded expectations given the roster.
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