The Vampire Movie They Don't Want You to See
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2021
- Hey everyone, In today's video we are looking at the rare 1970's vampire film Lemora that has been mostly forgotten about today and the circumstances that lead to that happening. Thank you for watching!
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Hey everyone, thank you so much for watching the new video. It always genuinely means a ton to me. As you can probably tell, I've been in a vampire mood lately and I'm excited to work eventually on a larger history of Vampires/Dracula series. That has been one of the things I've been most looking forward to doing since I started the channel, so look forward to that sometime in the future. As for Lemora, I hope to see it eventually get a newer wide release, I think that would be a pretty cool thing to see. Have you seen it before? If so I would love to hear your thoughts on it. Anyways, thanks again and I hope you all have a great weekend!
I’m curious enough to see it, actually. There’s a lot of old and foreign films I want to watch than there are Hollywood movies that appeal to me nowadays. It’s like slowly started getting stale in 2015, than plummeted in the past 2-3 years. There are a some exceptions of course. Such as Dunkirk, and 1917.
Then when can I expect an analysis of “Dracula: Dead and Loving It”
I NEED to find the 113 minute cut somewhere
I am SO excited as I am also in a vampire mood, I ADORE this
I'd be delighted to hear your take on Jean Rollin's films. Lynch+Kubrick with a Cronenberg spice and no budget is how I try to describe his odd, uncomfortable films. I guess one could simply say: French Giallo...so Jaune films, I guess.
I don't think the film is homophobic, but I do think that Lemora's gender is part of the overall narrative. A female vampire antagonist warns against abusive people hiding in safe spaces and among people you otherwise feel safe identifying with. That's a valuable lesson, I think. Not because any given group or identity lends itself to predation more than another necessarily, but because people who have been disenfranchised and disillusioned by society at large are vulnerable to predators lurking in the few spaces they think are safe.
this is a very good point, growing up i have always been more comfortable around women than men because i developed faster and got a lot more advances on me, plus i was once targeted by a known pedo . I was aware of homosexuality but i didn't think too much of it as most women in my country are very straight that is until a blood related auntie started to touch me inappropriately or staring at my chest or ass and when i would complain she would say we are both women. my last straw was when i was washing the dishes and she started to press me and just stayed there till one of my aunts came in. from that point on i realized people are shit regardless, some just hide it better than others. even when i was being targeted by a pedo, everyone knew he had rapid a girl around my age and never tried to even push him off me, they just watched with sad expressions, it was when e invited me to his house that i finally told my mom and she nearly broke his head and told me he was a monster. but she's my mother, what about the other women that literally saw it in the flesh, i grew up in tis town, i was o stranger. if he had raped me they would have said it's because i was growing too fast, or im spoilt ad i have been doing this since or the worse it probably wasn't even rape. mind you this town is full of women
Great point. Female and mother being abusive and manipulative? No way. Those never exist i'm sure lol.
yeah i agree, the choice of gender was almost certanly deliberate. Women are often seen as less thretning then men, the vampires intentions would perhaps be way more obvious if it was portrayed as a guy. but i do also think that it aded to the idea that lesbians are predatory, which still persists today, so while it isn't necesarrly homophobic, it did add to that stigma.
@@mihaelfajt293 no where are lesbians seen as that. It’s gay men and trans women that are seen as threatening. Lesbian women are no different to straight than other women and in some instances men. Abs yes regardless of gender you would not want someone who can see u sexually around you naked or what not
@@mihaelfajt293 I suppose a lot of people would have read it that way, but that's missing the point, you know?
Like, it's all of the external, aggressive cultural forces that drive her to trust Lemora by contrast.
Lemora had a big influence in the Yuri Scene in Japan in the early 80's
and also,the Game rule of rose had big inspirations from this
Huh I can totally see that being the case!
Omg that makes a lot of sense
Really... wow! That's so awesome to know, and completely fits.... It's always interesting seeing the results of Japanese creators being fans of older Western films in their modern works (and now, it's probably happening the other way a great deal also, if not more. Hell, I remember seeing Homicide: Life on the Street [precursor to The Wire from the 90's] do the 'triple shot' thing to emphasize certain dramatic moments back in the early 90's, and that was as clear an omage to anime as you could get.
Did it?
Do you happen to have a source/further info about how it influenced Yuri? I wanted to find out more, but google search came up empty.
I'm very glad to to see you championing Lemora. I teach film on and off and am really impressed with your work. On another note, I can't understand other old gents like myself having any gripes about younger consumers and creators of culture being in any way shallow. Your work is really wonderful. Keep up the amazing work and best wishes in whatever direction it takes you.
Comments like: "This wasn't his story to tell." It's reductionist, bringing understanding and empathy down to people of the same gender and sexuality. Would it be better that the movie was never made, then, despite all the praise it was given? And it's the same crowd which would be vocally opposed to exclusion, so people have to write outside their race and gender, or they'll be lambasted for that. But other than that, sure, it's pretty good, and tends to have films I can keep an eye out for.
@@TheAdarkerglow I agree, all stories are fair game. How much a story belongs to any individual or group though is an open discussion and I’m open to that. I’m a champion of creativity unfettered, but as I implied about young producers of content and ideas, there is nothing much more here that I disagree with than the big names that came before. The detail and sophistication is as good as some supposedly landmark texts. I’ve written plenty of criticism that was consistent as a whole but there are parts I disagree with now. Point taken about one line, but I’m not sure there is any lambasting going here. I spend much of my time challenging young people. That’s my job. I am also more and more impressed with the kids I look at. Note, I look at those that are worth my time so this is not scientific.
Since you’re in a vampire mood, I highly recommend The Velvet Vampire. One of the best and most overlooked vampire films I can think of.
And *Vampyres*
Watch Bitten with Jason Mewes it's kind of an off beat vampire comedy but with a very dark & tragic ending
If I may add to your suggestion(s): Daughters of Darkness by Harry Kümel is also worth a look...
@@TheRealNormanBates I heard Robert Eggers is doing a Vampyre remake really looking forward to it
Ever see " The Glass Cage , or 'Morning Son... ? also 'The Revenant' , a vamp/ghoul/zombie- ish buddy film worth a watch... also Romero,s 'Martin' worth seein
on "it might not be his story to tell" we cant help being born how we are, as a woman i am just grateful when men empathize with this perspective they dont know. i will never fully understand what life for men is like i suppose. but i am always glad when someone wants to understand. i really enjoy your videos! thank you for posting engaging, thought provoking videos
But did women do it did they focus on male perspectives.....never.....cinema is filled with stupid feminazis who despise men
@@bear7243 They don't bother because an overwhelming amount of our media is already framed in a male perspective; there's not any particular need for more, and more is coming regardless.
@@bear7243 you probably dont even watch or read anything made by women and it seems like you wouldnt even want to be proven wrong. why do you engage with content that clearly upsets you..
@@GelyelFish This is no longer true in any perspective. I don't fully agree with Vansh but I can understand the frustration with media today. Most movie being made are agenda driven wrecking balls that focus on dehumanizing men into thoughtless testosterone driven idiots who serve no purpose in todays society. There is a way to have solid female led movies without the attempt to castrate all men in the process. I'm just saying.
@@davidmata4786 "There is a way to have solid female led movies without the attempt to castrate all men in the process. I'm just saying."
=> Not anymore, there isn't. Because modern institutional feminism (the political fringe in charge of defining what constitutes a strong woman for future generations) has distorted History so bad, it is now doomed to kill it and hide it in order to save its own raison d'être.
The issue is... while History can be varied and complex in the extreme, it still relies on causes and effects to set events in motion. So reimagining History to suit your political agenda really implies reimagining a human psychology to match, reimagining biology, economics, art, and so on and so forth. Because modern History is not a mere chronicle of what was (which would be easy to falsify), but a coherent and plury-disciplinary analysis of the subtle interconnexions of different aspects of life over time.
Historical truth relies on obvious biological facts: Only fairly recently (post 1945), and for economic reasons did women become rivals of men. The ubiquitous truth, across so many societies and cultures on the face of the Earth, is men and women work in synergy. Men are never strong by themselves. Any society misogynistic enough would fail at even producing and raising kids well enough to perpetuate itself competitively, to say nothing of the rest. As for women, weak or strong, subserviant or dominating, in patriarcal or matriarcal societies, powerless or powerful, despised or revered (and often both at the same time)... they always relied on men as much as they did on themselves to improve their life. The notion that a matriarcal could work without the help or in spite of the mens' best efforts is preposterous. Just as the myth of women being reduced to a decorative role to any significant proportion in the past. Women ALWAYS worked. All the time. Even in the most misogynistic societies, they had to. Not only that, but they participated in enforcing and perpetuating their values. Often in designing their doctrine. They spoke, learned, worked, were valued for their work and rightly so (even in the worst woman-hating civilization). Simply because even misogynists need a mother and a father. So any society counted on them and rewarded them based on their merit, not out of kindness for the female genre, but simply as an obvious need in its struggle for survival.
The truth is that, outside the anecdotal scope of a very narrow 19th century puritan upper-bourgeoisie, women in western cultures of the past never had THE LUXURY of being elegant birds stored in golden cages. Just as the Japanese traditional woman was not a geisha. Nor was the average ancient Egyptian man a Pharaoh. These clichés of systemic oppression exerted by men on women at large are absurd. Not because man couldn't be so evil (he most definitely can), simply because in order to be EFFICIENTLY evil, man needs woman and vice-versa. Any viable large-scale exploitation model requires the combined willingful forces of both men and women. Any society more interested in cutting women off positions of power and decision than in its development and success would have simply died out, culturally perverted (some might say improved) or militarily dominated by smarter societies, willing to put its first and main resources (women and the children they carry) to better use, in order to crush its rivals.
"He doesnt have those firsthand experiences"
I don't think anybody has firsthand experience of lesbian vampires.
speak for yourself😌🧛♀️
@RedMD, real cute.
Unfortunately
Not with that attitude
don't rub it in u_u
Lovecraft based a lot of 'innsmouth' around the town of Seabrook NH (about 20 minutes from my home town), where he was forced to summer as a youth. Seabrook is famous in my area for the entire town being of three families, if you catch my drift.
@@Largentina. Exeter area.
What do you mean being of three families?
@@kalebbautista2320 lots of cousin marrying.
@@Madbmberwhatbmbsatmidnight that's fucked up
@@kalebbautista2320 means your cousin could be your wife, step mom and sister at the same time
As a queer person, this movies is not homophobic. People often assume that only straight relationships can be toxic relationships, but that is far from reality. People often assume that being queer means that there are no abusive, toxic people to be in relationships with. Its good to see the representation but also good to get it out that queer relationships can be toxic too
Sexual desire coupled with love is not lust. Lust is the infatuation with sexuality void of love. We’ve coined it to mean any sexual feeling, but biblically it means the former and not the latter.
The biblical definition of "love" is the same way how an abuser "loves you" like the Abrahamic God is.
@@zonilo1 what the actual fuck are you talking about? What biblical definition of love are you referring to? You know that there are three kinds right? I’ll give you time to google that to make up a weird response.
@@thaddeuskent8185 I'm pretty sure he's giving you the "Reddit Atheist" definition of biblical love.
@@rennidenni7792 ohhh right! So scholarly
@@zonilo1 God portrayed in Old Testament is a stern father, not an abuser. You would have to grow up without a father to think otherwise.
Growing up in the south, I’ve always been intrigued by southern vampire flicks. Small towns, like the one I grew up in, feel stuck in a different time. The people advance, but the towns stay the same. The creatures in these stories feel almost like an extension of the towns they reside in. The vampires lurk over the residents but are seldom spoken or thought twice about. It’s almost like the vampires are to be expected in these areas. This is a similar attitude given towards bigotry in the south. It is by no means encouraged, but it isn’t exactly spoken out about as much as it should be. It is more so swept under the rug. A problem many southern youth wish to expel, but aren’t really sure how. It seems the only option we have is to wait these issues out. Like the characters in these movies and stories, we have to live with the evil that skulks in our towns, on our streets, and even in our own homes until one day, it dies off just as surreptitiously as it once settled.
as true as your statement feels, it makes me incredibly sad to hear it.
@@treehouse318
I’ve lived in small southern towns most of my life and I’m almost 50. What you have described is exactly the way I have always felt, and for awhile (especially in the 90s) it did seem like positive change was happening. However, the reality is that it is all still there just under the surface waiting for an opportunity to rise up again. It can get better, but I don’t see it ever dying off completely.
This is a excellent reflection thank you for posting it.
I think that what makes the horror of it truly truly settle for me is the image of one of these youths who tried waiting it out. Who waited for the Dead to finally settle in their Tyranny. Glancing at a mirror and seeing nothing. Confirming what, in the dusty corners of their heart they had already known. That their own complicity was a symptom of their transformation into the monsters they claimed to despise.
Another undead thing roaming around a town turned necropolis.
Effingham, Georgia looked and felt like Innsmouth to me. I was only there once -- and that was enough.
There is no way Guillermo Del Toro's "Crimson Peak" was not partially inspired by this.
I always saw Crimson Peak as more or less inspired by Gothic fiction and films like The Innocents, but I could kind of see how one makes a connection to Lemora as an inspiration
@@margaritavlacci How ? I can't see any connection at all.
@@conniecarroll7222 Between Crimson Peak and Lemora? Both Lila and Edith are driven to leave their homes, and support systems, due to circumstances around the death of their fathers and are then essentially trapped in a foreign place after the fact. Also, Lemora and Lucille Sharpe show a lot of similar traits, including their possessiveness and controlling behaviour.
Plus Del Toro is a big fan of Alucarda, which is similarly obscure, so there's a chance he may have seen Lemora at some point.
Between Crimson Peak and The Innocents? Mostly just aesthetics.
@@margaritavlacci thank you for the added information. I haven't seen the film being discussed and been awhile since Crimson Peak.
Considering Del Toro loves the film I'm sure it influenced him in some way. The guy is a film buff though and this film is far from the only one from that time period let alone other time periods that shares similarities with both this and Crimson Peak. I'm sure Del Toro like any great filmmaker takes inspiration from numerous sources and it all mixes into his work in different ways mostly subconsciously.
“Lemora” is one of those films, like “Phantasm”, which I found so disturbing, so unsettling, and so weird that I could barely conceive of either film being made on this planet! And I was surprised to learn in both cases that these eerie, otherworldly films were filmed in Southern California, near Los Angeles in many cases. That veil of illusion getting pulled aside really is a jolt. “Lemora” is deeply frightening, and confronts human nature in very frank, and I think honest, ways.
I saw Phantasm on cable tv midnight movies back in the 80s I guess and it creeped the heck out of me. I didn't like the movie but the ATMOSPHERE was unforgettable, so eerie.
Personally, I don't think that a man writing a script about a woman's experience (nor the opposite, a woman writing about a man's experience) is any less capable of reaching the truth than it would be if written by a person of the same gender as the character whose experience it portrays. In the end, it's the audience who will decide what resonance the work itself has -- if it feels true or not. In a sense, nobody can ever understand the experiences of any other person; in another, equally true, sense, everybody has access to the experiences of everybody else through our common humanity.
Big agree.
It seems pretty well done so I assume he talked to women about their experience and actually did the necessary research.
Saying that a man shouldn't be writing about the experiences of a woman would be praised as "stunning and brave" while flipping that around and saying a woman shouldn't be writing about the experiences of a man would get you labeled a misogynist. It's shows how hypocritical and perverse our social justice obsessed society is.
I completely disagree. If it’s not lived experience, it can never be “true”; only an outsiders perspective. It might be accurate, but it lacks intrinsic understanding.
@@CrossoverManiac Except that men have been doing this forever and are constantly praised. You're talking out of your ass.
Movies mentioned in this video;
Lemora (1973) Richard Blackburn
6:17 Count Yorga, Vampire (1970) Bob Kelljan
6:27 Valerie and Her Week of Wonders (1970) Jaromil Jires
7:16 Night of the Hunter (1955) Charles Laughton
7:17 Moonfleet (1955) Fritz Lang
18:22 The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) Jim Sharman
18:22 Taxi Driver (1976) Martin Scorsese
18:22 Dawn of the Dead (1978) George A. Romero
19:24 Phantasm (1979) Don Coscarelli
19:47 Eating Raoul (1982) Paul Bartel
One of the beautiful things about art is that it doesn't always have to be your story to tell.
The first time I saw this film was a double feature with Valerie and Her Week of Wonders.
At first I actually did think that Lemora was an Americanized arthouse remake of Valerie.
I sort of think how could it not have at least been inspired by it?
Oh, to live in the timeline where both this film and The Devils have gotten their original cuts restored and released by a company like Criterion.
Random trivia: Cheryl Rainbeaux Smith (Lila Lee) can be seen, very briefly, in Phantom of the Paradise - in the silly orgy scene that introduces Swan. It's sad her career never took hold as she was truly a superb actor. She shines darkly in Jonathan Demme's strange, almost wonderful exploitation film Caged Heat and she shows razor sharp comedic timing in the x-rated musical Cinderella (which is genuinely charming and worth a watch - not for it's pornographic elements, tbc).
The story of Lila in Lemora tragically foretold Smith's real life fate; a girl/woman of great talent who only found relevance in the world through being an object of desire. Her life, like the film Lemora, was cut too short. (Sorry - that's an insensitive, crap joke. Couldn't resist.)
I will publish some fine photos of Rainbeaux in my new book Dark Stages.
"It is literally about watching this young person enter the world alone for the first time, only to see how everything around her is designed to exploit her and break her down, for the wants of people who are in positions of power. It quickly becomes a film of taking Laila and destroying her slowly to fit the desire of a vision that is not her own."
Holy shit, this is exactly what it's like to be a teenage/early 20's girl, and nobody prepares you for that. Its difficult to watch because its real life, and we dont learn these lessons until its too late.
Your film analysis is unparalleled, keep up the great work!
You feel the world is designed to exploit you and break you down in your early 20s?
@@donaldhysa4836 Donald don’t you have anything better to do than try to invalidate women’s experiences? (judging from your other comments)
@@mysaria7641
Invalidate his comment, yes go on, even tho he was perhaphs worried she might have gone trough an exceptionally horrible experience, perhaphs he just wants to help, or an explanation as to stop this kind of behaviour, at the very least help to identify and try to help the other women that feel like this and are living trough it. But no, you know what? Let's just say he is wasting his time!
@@mysaria7641 It was a genuine question cause I felt kind of similarly myself
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Talking about horror films about the loss of innocence I really recommend Poison for the Fairies by Carlos Enrique Taboada. It's one of the best Mexican horror films and exolores the relationship between a young "witch" and her friend. It's really interesting, I would love for you to talk about it.
I was told to watch that movie along with Valerie and her week of wonders, Don't deliver us from evil, and I couldn't find the poison for the fairies anywhere. Which sucks because the trailer looks awesome. Do you know anywhere I could watch it with eng sub?
I remember renting this movie, but having a hard time following it at points. Learning about it having been cut down explains why. I hope that some day I will get to see the original cut of the movie, because I still really enjoyed it. Lemora should be a film that more people know about, and anniversary edition with the cut footage restored and in a good resolution would make that possible.
They showed this on TCM some years ago, and I had the same issue. It's telling that even in a butchered state, it still has a powerful dreamlike quality to it. I'd love to see a compete version of it.
hi. woman here. you never have to experience something first hand to writ nor make a movie about it while having first hand experience in something does improve the humanity of the story, regardless of race gender or age these stories can still be felt and understood. no one needs to b anything in other to write about something. woman are not alien, and we are not less than. we are humans and as long as we can all agree we are humans we can understand what a story is trying to say
That's not what he meant at all though. The dude didn't say men cant write about women. He said that in the past most stories about women were written by men. It's not critiquing the film for being made by a man. It's critiquing how few films from that time which were about women's lives were actually made by women.
@@venkatkimidi2954 so it’s just a matter of quantity? I’m sorry but I couldn’t care less about the personal identity of directors or writers. A woman conveying the story of a woman isn’t more likely to be closer to some female-alternative-reality.
A lot of the most painfully stereotypical women characters I ever came across where written by women. Really a disservice their own cause.
@@albatroce2324 good for you I guess...? The creator of the video wanted to see more films by women. If you don't care then that's fine.
@@venkatkimidi2954 He totally said a man can't tell a true story about a woman because he's a man. Terribly sexist and gross.
@@TheLunatiched that's not what he said. He mentions several other works of similar story type as well. He makes a point of how all of them were made by men. He also makes a point on how valeries screenplay was written by a woman. If he was merely making a point against the movie, why would he bring up those other works? It's to show how all these similar stories are made by men. He doesn't say that men can't make these stories. Why praise the movie when you're also making a point that it's unacceptable?
That letter to Lila is full of all kinds of red flags. Like, reconciling with dying family is cool and all, but "Come alone. If you tell anyone if this, or bring anyone with you, you will not be taken to him. The instructions to follow are enclosed." sounds rather predatory.
Indeed. And I assume it was intended for the viewers to pick up on it, and at the same time show us the naivety of Lila in not reacting to all those red flags. She really had no clue how cruel the world and the creatures inhabiting it is.
Yeah, but ITS from a Woman and even more a good Christian so there cant possably BE anything Bad about IT . . .right?!
Most Predators are "Safe" people, Family members, Family Friends, teachers, priests, people WE are told WE have to BE physically available too or WE would BE Rude when WE where kids
Vampires were symbolic of sexual violation in a lot of cultures
And they also are extreamly often queer coded cause yeah, unwanted Attention IS scary, from carmilla, to the counts obvious interest in "His friend" Jonathan harker . . .WE do Not even have to start on Anne rices books
So few people know about this film, even fewer appreciate it and even FEWER have something intelligent to say about it. My best friend introduced me to this film about twenty years ago and it has been a favorite ever since. You are really an actual gem. I can't believe there's someone else out there who loves Lemora AND Return to Oz, lololol 💜💜💜💜💜
I really wish there was a full length version available, I'd be interested to see the original vision. Another 70's vampire movie I thought was interesting is Martin (1978). It was a George Romero movie, so I figure people know about it, but I haven't really seen anyone talking about it. I think it's a very underrated gem and a unique take on the vampire idea.
Check out Red Letter Media's channel. They've done a great review of "Martin".
Martin is great. It definitely deserves to be talked about more often.
Sometimes ppl upload Lemora, but it can be found on DVD, my friend owns a copy.
I think that Martin and Let the Right One In are the two best vampire films of all time. Both are unique, with substantial messages that touch on the human condition with far more intelligence than most vampire horror flicks do.
there is an original version available.
Lemora has haunted me since I first saw it on late-night TV in 1974. I didn't see it again until I found a VHS copy sometime in the '90s (which included a lengthy interview with the director), then again when Synapse released their DVD in 2004. Last year, when I speculated about its absence on Blu-ray on my blog, Richard Blackburn contacted me with disturbing news. He told me that Synapse had never returned the film's negative to him after mastering the DVD and now claim that the elements have been lost. Let's hope that the director, now 78, will be able to pressure the company into finding those elements in time to see his wonderful film restored and rediscovered with his direct participation.
This comment is super disturbing to me and I'm upset that nobody else has said anything yet. How could such a thing happen? Has Blackburn pursued litigation against Synapse? Sorry to be annoying but I'm really upset to read this. I am very very fortunate that I have a DVD copy of Lemora that my friend made for me as a birthday gift, from her own copy her ex husband bought for her. I notice people also upload it to UA-cam sometimes.
I appreciate this channel, because within five minutes I have a bunch of horror films to watch, on top of the main topic. Excellent stuff as always.
I just recently binged a bunch of your videos, the re-animator one made me listen to the audiobook. It was amazing and I'm surprised it's regarded as a 'bad' Lovecraft work
from what i've seen, lovecraft scholars tend to rate his work on how much it contributes to the cthulhu mythos. even tho he wrote more than just cosmic horror, as shown by herbert west, lovecraftian works are defined by their cosmic horror. no necronomicon or cult? a lesser lovecraft work.
Wait he wrote re-animator? This is news to me, good to know
@@iheartjackieyes Lovecraft himself disliked it and considered it one of his lesser-quality work, since he banged it out slapdash for a steady paycheck and as a favor to a friend who was starting a humor magazine. But yeah, there's an irritating number of Lovecraftian academics who hold similar views. I'm certainly not one of them (I may have written some stories set between the chapters of the original ReAnimator story...)
@@MatrixRefugee i think it's natural to dislike a work made under conditions with compromises that one doesn't like. on top of that, art is subjective. he might feel it's poor work but it became popular regardless.
@@iheartjackieyes I actually liked it more than some of his cthulu works. Less waiting around for minute details that (in my opinion) add little to the story and it gets to the point faster
It's been a stressful exam week for me, this month has been off to a bad start, but I come home to see a new Praise video has probably made my day :>
i wish u the best luck on those exams bro, u got this
Hey glad it helped out, hope everything with your exams went well!
@@InPraiseofShadows we appreciate every video you put out as fans, you do some amazing educational work and im always interested in watching the films you recommend i hope you put out a list some day!
I believe in the story of Song of Solomon, the couple is actually married. Correct me if I’m wrong?
Yes, it’s traditionally between Solomon and one of his wives. Sometimes the Queen of Sheba
it was before
That ending scene makes me uncomfortable on a primal level in a way I really can't explain
Now you have got me searching for this movie.
If you find it share the link please!
@@pamelars7497 Sadly it seems not available anywhere. Perhaps there are even darker corners of the web than I have poked around in, but I came up empty handed.
It’s on UA-cam, friends. Just type Lemora in! They aren’t great quality, but it’s there :)
@@missdiction4455 Yes thanks. I tried to find a good quality version without Castellano subs. The other version's quality is so bad that it is unwatchable.
This is the Castellano version:ua-cam.com/video/OKN8FB3ak28/v-deo.html
It is very acceptable quality, although the subs can be somewhat distracting.
nice review man, it truly generates a sense of interest in hidden gems.
This channel is one of my favorite finds in the last year. Easily some of the best analysis I've seen on UA-cam.
Another great video, Zane. This is literally the channel I get the most excited about when I see a video drops. You do fantastic work!
Thanks!
every one of your videos is a blessing!!
I enjoy your film/story analysis, I would love your take on "The Nightingale."
Why not Koyaanisqatsi while he's at it too.
I really enjoyed that film
@@irishjoe2941 Was it the multiple rape scenes that you enjoyed? I found it intensely depressing.
@@tycarne7850 of course not but the film was a good film and shot very nicely.
@@tycarne7850 Such a reductive, bad-faith comment about a harrowing, deeply unsettling and brutally honest portrayal of the lasting trauma caused to women and Aboriginal people by patriarchy and colonialism, directed by an Australian woman, in such an authentic way that I've never seen replicated before or since. All reduced to a dumb implication that “if you enjoy this film that portrays bad things, that must mean you also enjoy those bad things”
I'm always amazed that how much I can disagree with you and still love your videos and the ideas you explore. Like I don't think a man specifically shouldn't direct a story about something that only a woman can experience, but the lack of authentic back ground in some films saddens me.(Also Lovecraft but my opinion on that topic are way to specific to me and just to long for now.) Over all you just added another film I need to watch witch totals to 4 movies for now, and I cannot wait for the next.
Honestly it's ridiculous that he thinks you can't do stories about a gender you're not. Are women not capable of making films about men?
@@LordVader1094 yeah this whole video is a little too woke for me. Over analyzing a movie the director themselves said had other influences, and projecting his own ultra leftwing views on to it, and I'm a very liberal person
Dude, your videos are so good. Always thought provoking and always interesting. Keep up the amazing work.
Next: How Twilight Shook me to my Core
it is always such a delight to be in company of your videos, truly, thank you so much
Did you know she was a member of the girl band The Runaways? She died of an overdose in 2002. Such an ethereal young woman to watch in such a strange film such as Lemora. I saw this film a few years ago and fell in love with it.
I have the DVD of this film which has all the scenes cut for the television release. Even seeing the TV version when I was a kid was enough to tell me that this film was something special and unique. Most of the characters are leering, sweaty perverts, lusting after the obviously underage heroine who is, at first an, innocent to what is going on around her. However, by the end, she is no longer a victim at the hands of others, and has become her own person (albeit a vampire), strong and finally in control of her life and what she wants.
Wait wait wait. Is it your opinion that one cannot develop a full understanding of the struggles that others face without firsthand experience?
That's what writers, and all those with a sense of empathy, do every day. And you're saying it's "not their story to tell?"
Storytelling is not a practice upon which such limits ought to be imposed. People tell the stories which are within them to tell, and we each of us listen to the stories within which we find resonance of the soul.
Respectfully, I think you try a little too hard to find the artist in the art.
I think he's brimging up a well established pattern of men writing about women but not being able to truly understand every aspect to being one. There's going to be some things they get right, but there's going to be things they miss. Especially in a story with lesbian overtones - at least from what was shown, Lamora is operating more like a male than a female... because it's a male writing the part.
You can absolutely write about demographics you are not. As you said, that's what a writer does and it would be ridiculous to say people can't write stories about other types of people. That's what a writer does.
However; it's very common for it to be a common theme, where certain demographics don't get the same opportunities to write about what they know personally (women writing women for example.)
I think it isn't bad to say writers could benefit from more input from a demographic they are not. It would add layers to stories that could only benefit them, as well as having more diversity amongst story tellers.
This isn't just about men vs women either. I'd say that about rich writing for poor, whites writing for minorities, able bodied people writing for the disabled, etc. The best character actors usually immerse themselves into cultures they want to portray, because it adds a depth to characters that wouldn't exist without trying to emulate being in their shoes. You can only go so far looking in from the outside... which doesn't mean it can't be done well, but it would be nice to see more variety from story tellers themselves.
this channel has cheered me up in a time of need, thank you so much and i wish you the best
Underrated channel. This analysis is fantastic. Keep it up and thank you for sharing your passion.
The whole obsession about her body reminds me of Eyes Wide Shut's characters obsessing over Tom Cruise's character's body. Also, it is not true that the Bible condemns sex - it condemns it outside of the context of marriage.
I remember my early teens. All these middle aged men saying disgusting things to me and looking at me like I was a delicious piece of fried chicken.
Couldn't walk past a construction site without hearing nasty words like diarrhoea coming out of mens mouths.
Middle aged women sneering at me like I WANTED those fat and sweaty men to do that
That kind of hate/desire, when you know someone wants to tear you apart and doesn't care what happens to you...but they'll be nice about it, if you let them.
OMG that's messed up. I hope things have actually changed, but I fear they only have on the outside.
LMAO you had to say Fried Chicken , now we talkin' 👹🔥🔪
Great video, I first saw Lemora on tv when I was 28 or 29, definitely different from the other films that the local sci-fi channel had been playing that weekend. Truly, it is a spooky film, and one I won't forget.
Yes! This is an absolute favorite of mine, and its great to finally see someone talking about it. Your videos are always great but tis one really brightened my day.
I remember watching this with my father before we went to a YMCA Indian Guides sleepover. Now I have a Lemora shirt, which I'm trying to preserve, to remind me of that day.
Fantastic and very effective horror movie I first saw on TCM Underground and spent ages trying to get people to watch, because it's so unique.
Between that and repeatedly showing THE BABY, someone programming at TCM really liked blowing people's minds.
Great video and analysis!
Algorithm suggested your vids to me yesterday and begrudgingly, I am appreciative of that. Really digging your vids, man. I’m an SC native and have always been into horror since I was a small child. I’ve noticed a lot of the things you speak about regarding horror novel covers, your perspective on Batman/Gotham, and just can relate to your content in general. Really interesting stuff man, keep turning them out!
I'm so glad you made a video on this. This story reminds me alot of the dynamic between 2 characters I'm creating and its given me some much needed insperation for them
If those men hadnt told those stories, we would have even less. I think it is a mistake to shame men for writing womens experiences. Men can relate to women just fine. Young boys are treated similarily in abrahamic religions.
You don't see how fucked up your comment is. Women wouldn't get to tell their stories barely ever if men didn't decided to take one for the team and talk about us.
@@Aster_Risk bull shit. Quit spreading sterotypes and misinformation just because you dont know personally.
@@Aster_Risk you say it as if every men in the past was responsable for how the world thought about women. Society changes, people too. As a woman, I am grateful that our stories can trascend the barrier of gender and just touch our fellow companions minds because we are relatable as human beings. To just relate to someone because is the same gender as yours would be simple minded.
@@Aster_Risk just because a man tells a story based around a female character doesn’t mean women can’t ALSO tell their OWN stories.
Dude, I’m so happy you got to this one. I first saw Lemora about 15 years ago. It floated around in the back of my memory. I watched it again last year and realized how great it is. The Innsmouth reference is pretty overt, and you’re right, the story resembles The White People and Carmilla. It hurts to know there’s a whole other cut of this film we’ll never see.
Your media analysis just keeps getting better and better. Great Video
You always cover such amazing truly underrated movies! I hope Lemora gets the recognition and rerelease it deserves!
Really interesting stuff. Great video as always.
Just when you said it, I thought about how much this reminds me of Resident Evil Village. Thank you for shedding some light on this. Never heard of the movie, but I'm definitely going to give it a try now!
Thank you so much for your thoughtful analysis of one of my favorite movies. I caught it on cable when I was around Lemora's age and starting to experience many of the things you describe. I am lucky enough to own the DVD version, but it took years to find it.
I saw this movie as a young teen on a local TV Station in Houston, Texas in the 70's. I have spent years trying to find out what this movie was and having people look at me like I was crazy as I described it.
I like how you made the distinction against it being broadly panned as homophobic and instead looking at it through the prism of misbalanced power dynamics regardless of the specifics of the sexualities involved. That was nuanced and insightful, typical of the way you usually approach things in your essays. Good work.
When you started describing the film, I thought - this sounds a bit like Valerie and her week of wonders. Then you said exactly that.
Fantastic video! Would love a long list of your favorite horror films, shows, animations, books, comics and such! Keep up the great work.
I feel like a found a gold mine! This channel is great!!
Maybe with the similarities with the new Resident Evil game there will be some interest to restore the full movie for general audiences.
I have never seen this movie before but it reminds of "Alice Sweet Alice" and Romero's "Martin," so it is going straight to the top of my watch list.
Alice Sweet Alice: The American Giallo
@@overlookers eh, there are a few "American giallos". Kolobos, for example.
Just saw this yesterday on UA-cam with very good quality. Easily one of the greatest and strangest horror films of the 70s.
¡Thanks for all the hard work man! I love your videos.
I generally enjoy your work, there is a few things that rankle me.
One of which is this statement:
"As he is a man writing the story about how women are treated and this lesbian vampire movie might not be his story to tell. He doesn't have those first hand experiences to really get to an actually truth here." The presumption that because you are not a member of a group that you cannot tell the story from another's perspective is absurd. How do you take that core principal and abstract that to any thing else, because following that logic all speculative fiction is out the window and one can/should only tell stories that fit their born mold. Following this women writers cannot write anything from a mans perspective because it is not their story to tell. No asian man can put himself in the shoes of a Viking because it is not his story to tell.
It seems that because there is injustice, women not being able to direct a movie for example, you then extrapolate that to claiming artists should tie their hands in recompense for past actions, as opposed to suggesting everyone should be able to have a voice about anything.
I still enjoy your videos and this is not meant to be a rude comment, more so, something to chew on.
Well said! 👏👏
Me as well. Art and truth are not confined by gender. It's false to say a writer can't speak that truth because they are not the same gender as the subject. In fact, I'd suggest that for a man to write women (or vice versa), even from a male perspective, and acknowledging how society uses women, is a good thing not bad.
David Simon once made a similar counter point to the critique you bring up: art is about empathy and the idea that one's identity makes it impossible to tell another story is absurd and reductionist
IPOS is a damn fool
he does something like that in every video. Really go back and watch, he'll stop for luke 5 minutes to preach about something, then go back. I love his videos, but they take me out of it every time.
*_The full movie is on YT._*
love your videos, I will now be daydreaming about an in praise of shadows history of vampires
Lemora and Messiah of Evil are two of my favorite low-budget horror flicks from the '70s. Thanks for doing this video!
This is a great video and I really like your recent doing of highlighting obscure, underrated films. But I gotta admit... I'm glad to know by the comments that I wasn't the only one to heavily disagree with the "It's not his story to tell" part.
Damn wish I could see the original full length version of it.
Mate thanks for sharing this film, bringing to light a quality yet strange gem. I'm adding this to my watch list, and really enjoyed the themes you covered here, plus the editing aftermath. Cheers mate.
Just found the channel today. I'm intrigued to say the least. Thank you.
"Sounds great can't wait to see this.................oh no!" Great video
You’d be surprised how well people can learn, accept and then tell stories that “aren’t theirs to tell” as you put it. I’m a single father of 2 teenage girls and I absolutely guarantee you I could tell a deep/complex story about how women are used, abused and feel about things in life. Maybe not through my own literal personal experience, but empathy is a hell of a thing.
I get what you’re saying but that’s one hell of a shot to fire at any creative person you don’t personally know.
Agreed.
Completely agree with you.
You know that there are many people who, for a variety of reasons, don't really understand or experience empathy.
For these people, it is hard for them to believe that someone could put themselves in the place of another, and understand correctly, what they go through.
Look at some of the awful things people do to each other.
@@Saffron-sugar very well said :) and even more, empathetic creative people have an uncanny ability of being able to put themselves in other peoples shoes so to speak. So ya, essentially exactly what you just said lol
@@519MaLoNeY I think the best creatives are essentially empaths at their core. Just because I'm a man doesn't mean I haven't hurt when I was told by almost all of my female friends that they've gone through abuse in a litany of ways. It hurt my heart because I'm one of those people who couldn't imagine abusing any of the ladies in my life. Yet, in my fiction I can write about such abuse.
@@rvfiasco outstanding man. Well said! That’s exactly how and what I felt when I was typing out my OP but didn’t know how to articulate it.
One of the biggest things at stake with all the BS woke ideology these days is creative expression…the attempt by a small group of people to force the vast majority of us into little boxes of identities. It’s infuriating.
So when I hear blatant pandering to it, like the video saying “not their story to tell” it really bothers me.
Absolutely great video! I can't believe I'd never heard of this thank you so much for talking about it
Yours is one of my favorites channels. Well done!
It seems like such a fascinating movie. I'm so sad there's no really easy way to watch it and impossible to do so in it's intended form. I really hope it gets picked up by somebody so more people can at least watch it in good quality.
A very, *very* solid review. I dimly recall watching this on C4 in England in the nineties as part of their rather luridly titled (and in this case not particularly appropriate) 'Horotica' strand. I must admit it was the intense atmosphere that held me more than the narrative, although I remember being oddly pleased the vampire won out. I don't really agree with your analysis being loss/corruption of innocence. I took it to be a metaphor for empowerment through the acceptance of one's nature. Oddly enough when I first saw Neil Jordan's excellent 'Byzantium' it strongly reminded me of this film despite story-wise there being almost no relation.
The girl who played Lila died due to complications from a lifetime of heroin use in 2002. Quite thought provoking given this was her first headlining role.
Love your work, keep them coming!!
Thanks for making this video. I pushed pause and went and found this movie. Watched it. Loved it. Now I'm back to finish your video so thank you! I'd never heard of it before now
This is such an atmospheric film !! Despite some moments poor acting and cheesy effects the movie nevertheless manages to get in your head and offer some unforgettable images. Great that you mention the Lovecraftian connection of Shadow Over Insmouth.
I would love to see this, I hope it gets a wide release!
I love seeing the notification that you've posted a new video.
Always appreciate your videos. :D
Never heard of this one, looks good.
Know where I can watch it if I am in Southern Europe ????!? 21:07 aha !
Where all the rest come from - Cinemé BitTorrent 😂
I was wondering why the Actress who played Lila seemed so Familiar, Then I realized she was Kathy in LaserBlast.
This film looks and sounds really interesting! Really enjoyed your review and everything you went into.
Great video as always, and honestly thank you for finally showing me what the footage from 6:17 is from. They used stock footage of Count Yorga a lot in the animal planet show The Most Extreme and I never knew where it was from til today
Whoever out there working on a remaster of this movie, take my money, take it
Well shit I read the title as "Lemon" and was a little perplexed.
Me 2
Love your videos. You show the most interesting facts histories about the creation of these artworks.
It's a flawed, but surprisingly lyrical and oneiric vampire film which flew under the radar of many horror fans in pre-internet times. I used to see Cheryl Smith around LA quite a bit in the 80s, hanging out at Club Lingerie, shopping on Melrose, at The Whiskey...I always wanted to say hello and tell her how much I enjoyed Lemora, but opted not to bother her. RIP.