Amtrak Surfliner NEW Charger Locomotives!
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- All aboard! The SC-44 "Charger" is a new diesel-electric passenger locomotive built by Siemens Mobility in Sacramento, California. In this video, we will take a look at several of these new locomotives as they enter service on the Pacific Surfliner. You'll see the Chargers leading regular Pacific Surfliner trains as well as multiple locomotives running on some trains as they are tested before being allowed to run on their own.
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I am continually amazed at how quiet these units are.
You and me both.
Me too. European tech I guess. On the contrary, I was appalled by how the F59 were noisy.
I do have to say so they are quieter than I was expecting
There are SC-44s pulling MARC trains (in Maryland) and I have noticed that when rolling at speed, the MARC passenger cars are actually louder than the SC-44 locomotive. I, too, dislike the look of the front of the Charger, but I think the grills on the side are sick.
I know they are ugly you dont hear the sweet engine roar anymore.....😭😭😭😭 the memories
Designed and developed in Germany. 🇩🇪
Assembled in the USA. 🇺🇸
Very nice locomotive! 🚂
Powered by Cummins 16-cylinder QSK95 diesel engine, engineered and manufactured in USA. 🇺🇸
yes, I have a HO Scale Amtrak Midwest Charger it's beautiful
The EMD F59PHIs were probably the best fit for the Surfline ... Until now that these Siemens Chargers have "bumped them out of service". It's now time to say farewell to them as they head over to Metra, but even so I am certain that they will work just as well over in Chicago as they did over here.
Lots of people will miss the F59 for sure.
True, but I'm happy for new investment in the railroad. While the F59PHI's have served dutifully for years, it's time for the Chargers to take charge and keep the service going, just like the Sprinters did a few years ago on the Northeast Corridor. They replaced the AEM-7, and HHP-8, but have remained reliable since.
And the good news is that the F59s will be in service elsewhere for many more years!
@@CoasterFan2105 Oh yeah Mike. Where do you expect them to go?
wow! That's actually great to hear!
@@JessicaKasumi1990 They are all going to Chicago Metra.
I'm sure that I'm going to Miss The F59's on those Surfliner Trains as they will be heading to Metra.
I will too.
the cascades's f59phis are already long gone.
Model Trains and Railfanning True and The Dash 8’s was a best fit on the cascades.
Awesome train I really like the SC-44s
Thank you!
YYes,I have a HO Scale AMTRAK MIDWEST CHARGER it's beautiful
Loving the new chargers!
Yes, I have a HO Scale Amtrak Midwest Charger it's beautiful)
Awesome video mike! Love those new locomotives. Finally new evolution for Amtrak! Keep up the good work!
Thanks! They're pretty cool!
yes,,they are beautiful, I have a HO Scale Amtrak Midwest Charger it's beautiful.
Beautiful, beautiful, love every minute of it.
I thought I wouldn't like the Chargers, they are sweeeeeet.
Keep up the good work my friend.
Can't wait to see who gonna do them in both N and HO scale.
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Who's gonna throw there hat in to this arena.
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Those flatspotted wheels are killing me.
I subscribed to you
Great video-pictorial of the Chargers...there growing on me, slightly!
Of course, I'm loving the 4k and great variety of scenes!
Thank you very much! More 4K on the way!
Finally! I have been waiting for this type of video! Btw I finally seen some SC-44's. Good job with these clips, too!
Awesome, Garrett! Thanks!
Those SC44 "Chargers" look good on the Pacific Surfliners! But still I miss those F59PHIs...Just glad they still have a job..With Metra.
Great video mike, I like the SC-44 chargers but I will miss the f59phi locos thanks for posting
Me too. Thanks for the comment!
yes, I have a HO Scale Amtrak Midwest Charger it's beautiful
Great video
Thanks!
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Great video as always Mike!
Thank you!
They look awesome
They're pretty cool!
Great video Mike
Thank you, Vincent!
Awesome Video!
Thanks!
@@CoasterFan2105 You're Welcome!
Very Nice! I love the filmography and the trains!
Another great video Mike! Love it! :)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Finally a good looking modern American locomotive.
I thought it was German?
Mr. GeforcerFX german designed by a german company that was built in the US, how generous of foreign companies to offer us jobs thatll benefit their economy
@@MrGeforcerFX The SC-44 is based on a locomotive series named VECTRON.
It is a modular system realized with the commitment of global use. This is not specifically German, all major locomotive builders have such a system in their porfolio: Bombardier with TRAXX, ALSTOM with PRIMA, SIEMENS with VECTRON. These systems all have in common that they can serve as the basis for various types of locomotives, eg the VECTRON is available as an electric locomotive, as a diesel-electric locomotive, as a dual-mode locomotive with LastMile device, VECTRONs run on normal gauge and on braud gauge.
SC-44 and ACS-64 are both American and Americanized VECTRONs, built with in ISA (Sacramento) with mostly in USA manufactured parts.
Something similar - in the sense of global universality - exists with GE's currently most successful American freight train diesel locomotive - the ES44. It is available for Indian broad gauge, as a Chinese locomotive, on a narrow gauge in Brazil and much more - the ES44 is a universally worldwide applicable product - like the corresponding locomotive systems of the major manufacturers too.
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"how generous of foreign companies to offer us jobs thatll benefit their economy"
*lol*
I dont know what your problem is.
First of all, the construction of SC-44 and ACS-64 serves the American economy, because the locos are built in California, with parts mostly made in the USA.
Siemens is an international company based in Germany. Bombardier too. Both sell their stuff on the international market. USA belongs to this market.
GE also trades on the international market. And they work exactly the same as Siemens.
Did you know that GE has signed a contract with the Indian Railways about building a version of the ES44 in India? It includes the construction of a factory there, so that the Indians can build the engines themselves. The contract runs over 1000 pieces in ten years - and 90% of them are to be built in India.
Why are you not lamenting that GE harms the American economy, because basically they only earn a bit of license fees?
Do you know who really harmed the American Economy and basically still does?
The American locomotive manufacturers.
For various reasons they do not want to build ordinary passenger locomotives and for decades they prefer to leave this business to others - and most of them come from abroad. Not even the latest passenger locomotive from EMD or Caterpillar, the F125, is a complete American locomotive: Concept of VOSSLOH from Spain, the bogies too, the generator is AFAIK Japanese.
And GE? GE has nothing to offer.
What should rail operators do which need to organize passenger services? The US-American manufacturers do not do anything or not to the specifications required by AMTRAK and Co. So these passenger train companies have no choice but to damage the American economy and buy abroad.
And that has been like this for a long time:
The HHP-8: ALSTOM and Bombardier.
AEM-7, AEM-7AC, ALP-44: ASEA, ALSTOM.
ACS-64, SC-44: SIEMENS
F125: VOSSLOH, KATO
Thats all. Thank you
SouthCalifas619 American assembled in Sacramento, California with a global mix of parts. Engines from Cummins that are assembled in Seymour, Indiana out of primarily Chinese parts. Alternator s made by Hitzinger in Austria. Most of the other smaller parts are from Germany. The body shells are made entirely in Sacramento.
The initial multi-state order of Amtrak replacements was funded by the Obama stimulus bill. Siemens has a big sign in front of their facility explaining that.
So in other words, it stimulates A LOT of economies, not just Germany’s. I know that the workers in Sacramento are very greatful for the employment opportunities offered by this project.
Nice video!
Thanks!
CoasterFan2105 NP.
I'll miss the f59. IMO those new locos are somewhat ugly compared to the f59
Grant Thomas funny thing is as a kid when f59s replaced the f40s completely i thought the f59s were ugly and looked like an airplane lol i hated then for a while. And now ill miss them, the cycle will probably repeat again once these chargers get replaced.
For a lot of us, we miss what's being retired because of the nostalgia. Even if we don't like it at first, we get used to it after a while and then, the next thing you know, another 20 years have come and gone.
I still miss the red nosed Santa Fe Passenger Locomotive from the 1960's. I thought it was more pleasing to the aesthetic eye.
JACK ANTHONY oh indeed they were, it wasnt too box like or too rounded, the F7s were what a locomotive should look like, thats why the freeway roadsigns that indicate a train station is near still use the F7 figure on the sign.
As a newer fan, I like them. Compared to rail systems abroad, the old cars looked dated.
Funny thing is as a kid when f59s replaced the f40s completely i thought the f59s were ugly and looked like an airplane lol i hated them for a while. And now ill miss them, the cycle will probably repeat again once these chargers get replaced.
As I'm watching this video again, most of the F59PHIs that were sent to Metra are now in service. I've not seen one yet, but I know I'll get a listen to that beautiful K5LA
Amazing shots. Nice vid dude!
Thanks!
Nice video! But I I saw a dead opossum named Rusty at Torrance California today.
Thanks, Rhett!
Gotta love the little ramp on the back to match the height of the surfliners
awesome!!!!!!!...and new!!!...thanks again.
Thanks for the comment!
Fantastic video!I've been watching your videos ever since the very beginning in 2008!keep up the great work Mike!your videos are awesome!
Wow! That's as far back as it gets! Thanks for sticking with the channel all these years!
Super video!
Thanks, Boris!
Cool looking unit w the wind Fairing at the rear of the unit
Had the pleasure of riding on one of these for my family trip to San Diego
7:06 Car #2 said Polar Express?
You right
Seems to have been graffitied on there...
It was applied by Amtrak for a special train that was run out of Chicago a few years ago and was just never taken off.
I love amtrak videos of yours that a amtrak in the front and amtrak from behind
great catches and video of these new engines on these trains on there first runs getting used to it
Superb!
Thanks, Javi!
Awesome
Thank you!
Yours are the best train videos on UA-cam. My two year old son loves trains so we watch them daily. Thanks!
Great video Mike! Seems like you’ve been busy catching them.
Oh yes haha. I have so much video from the LA - San Diego corridor from the last 4 months that I'm not quite sure what to do with it all.
Awesome video Mike. Hmm I’ve seen Charger test trains with two chargers on both ends but I’ve never seen them with a Charger on one end and a NPCU on the other end. I also never seen two NPCUs hooked up to each other.
Thanks, Jose! All of the strange combinations of Chargers and NPCUs had to do with testing. The reason for the two NPCUs is that the 90278 just came back from overhaul. The 90208 was there for the first run in case it was needed.
Being a new train spotter based in South Florida, I have never seen these locomotives before. Great video by the way!
So many great shots. I’m slowly beginning to like the Chargers. Maybe it’s the novelty of a new locomotive. Nose styling could be simpler and cleaner like the Genesis.
During the nine years I'd lived in Fresno, when I'd come up to Sacramento to see family and friends, I'd pass the Siemens plant on the UP line, with that being my first indications I was in Sacramento proper. I haven't been through there since they started production of the ACS-64 and SC-44, but I've seen a few of them come through my hometown of North Highlands, being towed by UP locos. Saw some MARC SC-44s and some SEPTA ACS-64s being towed on their way east, but couldn't get pics in time.
Looks cool. Are these kind of hybrid locos ?
They're standard diesel-electric locomotives. They have dynamic braking, but pretty much all modern diesel-electric locomotives do.
Great vid!
Thank you!
Just got back from a trip to Japan and China. While the clickety clack sound of these trains is so nostalgic and brings back memories of my childhood, it also frightens me that the infrastructure of our country is so terribly outdated. We desperately need to upgrade our infrastructure to bring it up to par with our Asian and even European (ex U.K.) friends. Just think of all the jobs we’ll be creating.
*_Great video of the new SC-44 Siemen locomotives - too bad Amtrak can't upgrade the 70's rail cars~_*
Well, write your congressperson to put in a line item so Amtrak can get new cars
I wish all Amtrak trains could be as nice as the Surfliner
I just rode the surfliner on December 2, and it was straight out of the 1970s. Rickety! And we were unable to take the train we were scheduled to take because of brake problems. We had to wait 3 hours for the next train, which was PACKED! Strictly third world.
Nice Capture Excellent Shot !
Well done, thanks for sharing! Great videography!!
Great Videos Mike! My son loves watching them and so do I! Good job on everything 👍🏼
Apparently I have a clip of couple surfliner trains with the F59s :O. Great clip as always, they entertain me and keep me distracted a lot when I eat XD
1:10 is an incredible shot!
F59s weren’t too bad as far as looks, but these are the new generation because of the really low noise
Next train talk episode? I sure miss them
I'm hoping for March, but not sure yet. I really want to make more, but I'm in the middle of moving right now, so I'm trying get enough videos done to carry me through the move on both UA-cam and Facebook (now that I upload there weekly as well). Train Talks take the most amount of time to put together of all my videos, so I've had to put them on hold for the time being.
I'm really not a huge fan of these new Charger locomotives, but they sure do have a killer horn and bell. These definitely look better than the Amtrak California ones, but I still prefer the F59's and NPCU F40's by a long shot.
@Acerailfan3306 Trackside I'm really looking forward to the ALC-42s though- hopefully those come out looking like they do in the concept art, since I really love the design they went with.
@Acerailfan3306 Trackside I was actually going to mention the Avelia Liberty trains, though looking back I'm starting to come around on those ones... but yeah, I agree.
Those Amtrak Surfliner cars are meant for the F59PHI, not for SC-44 Charger. I think that Siemens had made something a bit too quiet, I can't hear any of that 4,400 horsepower. How will the locomotives show off its power?
Through "stealthiness", lol
They're not all that powerful! It takes them forever to get up to 110 MPH here in the Midwest!
They were designed to be super quiet because a lot of non-railfans don't like the noise, unfortunately.
Are they only gonna use them for Los Angeles to San Diego because i know that part of the journey is much more popular
They will be used over the entire corridor from San Diego to San Luis Obispo.
Very nice!, congratulations
the surfliner charger sounds like the brightline train
Growing up with seeing the surfliner almost every day in san diego. its weird seeing the charger now
Beauty!
AMTRAK just announced they were buy 75 more and they will be replacing the p42s on their cross country routes
Magnifique. J'adore la vidéo, les scènes, le cadrage, les couchers de soleil 1:09, 7:08, 7:40, 8:47, 9:33
MERRY EARLY CHRISTMAS, MIKE ARMSTRONG!!!!! :-D
Thanks, Kev! You too!
That's cool that they were put in short and regional service like the Hiawatha and the Surfliner but when are they going to be put in long distance trains such as the Zephyr and the southwest chief? If I read right they were supposed to replace the aging P42
Amtrak have announced plans to replace their P42 fleet, but I don't think the P42's will be replaced for at least another ten years...
Last I heard, they either had already selected or were close to selecting a manufacturer for either rebuilding the P42s or buying new locomotives. I think they want them some time around 2021.
@@CoasterFan2105 if they choose to replace the P42s, would the replacements be Siemens Chargers (like here with the F59s)?
@@CoasterFan2105 if they choose to replace the P42s, would the replacements be Siemens Chargers (like here with the F59s)?
@@CoasterFan2105 wait so they may even choose a different locomotive and not the Charger? That's interesting
Hey I had the same idea of yours Mike and until next time I will see you down the line
See you down the line!
So waht about the old ones are they still here or there gone .
Almost all of them have been sent to Chicago to work on Metra commuter trains. The others should be heading east soon as well.
Hey Mike, in early 2018, Metra collaborated with Amtrak to use Cascades and Surfliner F59's as a replacement for their older F40's. The F59 fleet will continue to be used for Metra commuter service following their retirement from Amtrak. The first 5 will keep their original Surfliner paint scheme, the next 16 will get their new Metra paint scheme. These locos will reduce pollution on Metra commuter service. F59's are still used on service for Amtrak San Joaquin and Capitol Corridor. I know it's unpleasant to see them leave, but it will reduce polution as they enter Metra service. By the way, before making their way over to Metra, the F59PHI's got their mechanical bells replaced with E-bells. They were used on the Surfline between 1998 and 2018. Now the SC-44 will take over for the next 20 years.
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Nice looking paint scheme.
When I sen the f59phi go I was sad than 2 years pass I'm starting to warm up and now I'm in love with sc44 charger
Awesome Video Mike
Do you have any ideas on why some chargers have the blue "swoosh" on the rear and others don't?
Units 2111-2122 have them. Only units 2109 and 2110 don't. The thought on the reason is that they plan to use 2109 and 10 only on the Amfleet (low-level) sets and the rest on the bi-level sets when all are ready for service, so they have colours to match their trains.
The reason the 2109 and the 2110 are missing the "blue swoosh" is that they were completed before the final scheme was chosen. So, the white pinstripe was added to match the cars as best they could.
Woooow love the horn
Great shots!!
3:01 nice catch of three Chargers on one train!
the lead locomotive at 4:02 doesn't have the blue paint on the back! That's the part that makes it fit with its surfliner passenger cars (I think Amtrak should order some more so they don't have the non-matching superliners in the middle!)
4:47 nice catch of two NPCUs at the back! One of them being 90208!
0:31 I just noticed that the Chargers fit well with the surfliner cars. That is because the part that goes up at the back of the Chargers matches the height with the coaches.
I do really like these things, but the rythmic thump of 3000 hp charging toward you with lights and 5-chime on an F40 will not be forgotten for sure in my mind.
They just don't look right pulling bilevels. Great video, Mike!
Did they have to put an E-Bell on these.
Pretty much everything new will come with an e bell now. One less mechanical part that can break or fail in the cold.
Last night I saw on Amtrak city of new Orleans Amtrak P42DC 156 40th anniversary sceme
Wish they made a cooler paint scheme!
R.I.P F59 I like there horns
They were very unique. Neat locomotives.
I like the video
have all the f59s been put out of service yet
Not all of them just yet. I believe there are four F59s still in LA, but not long before they are gone...
At the beginning of this week, there was still one running in service on trains. Not sure if it's still out there or not.
@@CoasterFan2105 I believe 460 is the only one which is still used for revenue service. The rest are sitting at the 8th Street yard. Do you have any idea as to why they have not been sent east yet?
Amazing, professionally done trainspotting! Surfliners by the surf, what could be more ideal, right? I do believe a good choice was made with Siemens, considering the Chargers and the AC 64 S locomotives. These acceptance runs are a unique opportunity to film some rare consists, as it seems. Well done, Mike!p
Polar express? What's up with that?? Does the Coast Starlight uses a variety of older single level passenger?
The polar express thing was from some special event train Amtrak ran a few years ago out of Chicago and it was just never taken off. The Coast Starlight uses bi-level "Superliner" cars.
I prefer the look of the Genesis locomotive much more. I wish they made a Charger in a Genesis body, that would be a perfect locomotive, because the Charger looks like a toy compared to the beautiful beast of a locomotive Genesis. In about 10 years we probably won't see Genesis locomotives anymore.
well i just took some photos of train number 2110 today From union station nice looking trains they are. like the look of the new Metrolink trains that are being rolled out as well
why did a lot of the consists have 4 locomotives? Were they just moving them?
They were testing them. I believe these new Chargers need to complete a total of 500 miles of test runs before they can be put in revenue service, so that is what they were doing.
Thomas Palmer bingo.
Thomas is correct. The locomotives need to be qualified a total of 500 miles of trouble free running before they are allowed to go solo. Some of the trains also had locomotives on both ends so that more crews could be qualified to operate the Chargers in service.
Oh by the way, I'm really gonna miss those F59's, they where the staple of the Surfliners.
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I saw one of those and I think their cool but I like the old ones abit better
That spoiler(?) on the tail of the charger was obviously designed to make them more aerodynamic in combination with the Surfliner coaches, but it makes things worse when one of these locomotives is in front of a single-level coach or another locomotive (including another Charger when they are running tandem instead of back-to-back) -- and this seems to be the case an awful lot of the time. They should have made the spoiler be something that could be raised and lowered, or at least removed quickly. Fortunately, although all of the ones in this video have this feature, not all Chargers (not even all of the ones used by Amtrak) have it (although I'm not sure that Amtrak actually owns the ones used on the Cascades -- at least some of them have the WSDOT logo on them instead of Amtrak).
Long distance trains will be getting chargers
I miss the days of the San Diegan and the F40’s
Does this mean no more F59s?
There are still a few in LA and one or two on trains, but they all will soon be gone.
Theve already been put into service!? :(
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Yes. Very nice German locomotive.
Only 2 left to be delivered as of today.
@@CoasterFan2105dang i wanted to catch the last of them I only have 3 vids on my channel that feature the surfliner f59phi's >:(
@@CoasterFan2105 it would be funny if the Mbta bought them 🤣
@@southshorerailvideos1122 Haha, yeah that would be funny