@@foxypiratecove37350 plus Firefox is based on the Gecko engine so it’s way more moddable than chromium and CSS based so Netscape making a proper comeback is more possible through a Gecko fork
I feel like if you're going to have a browser named after something as legendary as Netscape, you should at least have the decency to not use Chromium as its base.
IIRC the last versions of Netscape were based on the Mozilla Suite (and later, Firefox). So I guess they could have used the FF engine, but maybe it's somehow harder to develop for? Idk.
> Be Netscape, an legendary browser back in the 90's and early 2000's; > Begins to die, because of some shitty snob guy that's filthy rich from spywaresoft; > Gets bought by AOL, permanently killing it; > Years later, you decide to comeback... > ...As another chromium fork, and a horrible one at that. They could've at least tried to go with a gecko (aka firefox) fork, or an opera fork, but sadly, they chose the laziest option: chromium fork. It's sad seeing netscape being used in this way. Netscape is dead a long time ago, stop desecrating it's corpse by incorporating chromium to it, and PUPs too.
Really? I always thought opera was it's own thing. Did opera nowadays also decided to go with chromium too? It's very sad. I just hope the gecko doesn't die and mutates into a chromium fork too, however, the sad thing is, the gecko might die and become chromium soon, because many, MANY browsers are all becoming more and more chromium forks. As for gecko forks, there's barely any, other than librewolf, or pale moon. Maybe one day, gecko forks will become popular, once people manage to find out some sort of obscure, severe vulnerability in it, that can't be patched or whatever.
@@Wake_up._This_isnt_your_world Yes. They are also chrome raskin now. Well at least there is no worse performing browser then google chrome itself...yet.
@@Wake_up._This_isnt_your_world Opera started as its own, but shifted to make it Chromium-based. I think and hope Firefox won't become Chromium-based as it would be a loss of history, as Firefox is based on the original source code of Netscape Navigator.
btw, i forgot to add something in my 2nd comment, because i sometimes have the habit of devouring words or mixing them up oof. "Maybe one day gecko forks will become popular, once people manage to find out some sort of obscure, severe vulnerability in *CHROMIUM that can't be patched or whatever". Sorry about that :p
Or you die and some greedy company that is barely any relevant nowadays, decides to desecrate your corpse and reanimate your body with chromium, just to ridicule netscape, and firefox too, since netscape source code, was based on the gecko engine, which is what firefox nowadays use.
3:54 The text was in Lithuanian, my native language. At first I thought something popped up from my own browser. Weird to see Lithuanian text in an Enderman's video...
It's actually exist and called "Ladybird browser" that made purely from scratch without any source code from either Chromium or Firefox or WebKit. But it's not available for public yet, as the very first early alpha release will come as early as mid-late 2026
@@autumnblaze6267 and considering Netscape's original code should still be there, it shouldn't be impossible to make a replica of what Netscape initially looked like
And its actual successor is SeaMonkey. Maintained actively, but not that up to date with current web standards. Also some extensions are unofficial and suspect. SeaMonkey itself is clean and trustworthy.
I was going to say, yeah, AOL and whoever owns their properties this week has been practicing Netscape "brand necrophilia" (as Jamie Zawinski put it) for a loooong time. But I was not ready for a shonky Chromium jobbie. This is mega cursed.
@@Canleaf08 sure you can use a fork but if firefox dies then all of the forks die too, unless some big one takes the lead but right now I don’t see one. Waterfox, Icecat, LibreWolf, Mullvad, those are too niche and can’t become the leader. Zen is very niche too and experimental. The only potential one that could do it is Floorp, but that’s still very niche. Basically every fork of Firefox is niche
Ngl this should be named Chromescape, because it doesn't resemble at all netscape. It's just there for the bait. Probably installs a miner or something in your computer, because it's the perfect way to get you to install something thinking "OML GREATEST COMEBACK?????", and then get virused.
I immediately liked the video, even before watching it, as soon as I heard your voice. Personally, I like your voiceover videos much more than the subtitled ones. I hope you continue doing that in more future videos.
this video got me an idea: what would happen if you install as many shady browsers as possible? a little fun research project to see which one is scummiest than the other.
Like how the browser itself is literally just google chrome. At the very least they could have made it look like Netscape did back in the day with some quality-of-life features like tabs.
Never thought Netscape was owned by AOL, but it makes sense in hindsight considering how both were designed around the same time for getting connected onto the internet
Forking Chromium to then use the Netscape name. This looks like a vendor specific browser for 'security software 'product' - trying to keep the 'Netscape' name alive lol
Netscape used to be dang good. The only reason internet explorer beat it was. Well. Because there is no competing with free. Netscape used to cost money, all browsers used to. And it's weird to think about. ..It's sorta weird that browsers are all free now. They are hugely important and powerful tools. And we get them for free.
Tried installing this browser on a VM and Chrome after that, when Chrome opened I got a pop up saying that the "Search and New Tab by AOL" got added by another program.
When I was doing research into old browser cause I'm tired of chrome and was seeing if there's a updated version of those old browser this is one of them I found didn't install it glad I didn't
Alas, AOL has been advertising junkware in with their products since the late 2000s, good to see that hasn't changed much. Ever since AIM shut down and their chat rooms disappeared from AOL Desktop Gold (their current desktop client for the remaining AOL subscribers), AOL is practically on life support, so they keep advertising even more blatant junkware to stay alive.
AOL and Netscape used to be good names and browsers in the computer industry now they are crappy chromium forks that only changed the branding... what has happened to this world
how the hell did the company even manage to not go bankrupt with literally NO activity after like 20 years. *chormium??? this thing is legendary, and 20 years later IT USES CHROMIUM, insane, bravo, great researching, brainstorming for a new version of netscape 20 years later! they did fking nothing!*
I used Netscape 0.9 a beta version back in 1994. Actually I was an Alpha tester of ARPANET (forerunner of Internet) back in 1969 when I was in High school sending an e-mail using a Telex machine hooked up to an acoustic modem using a telephone handset. I still get my Internet through a land-line phone. Who needs a cell phone? I would rather have a desktop PC with 2 monitors.
2:31 for context why it shows Verizon's privacy policy and ToS is most likely due to the fact that not too long ago, Verizon Communications actually owned AOL
In the Chromium fork scene, you have two kinds of forks: - The ones that wants to serve a legitimate purpose like Brave, Vivaldi, Supermium, ... - And the others that just want to take you for a fool.
Couldn't they let the name rest in peace? As someone who loved the original browser before Microsoft bullied it out of business, this is just so sad. Hopefully this fails and goes away quickly.
But wasn't Firefox the new version of Netscape? Like, netscape's code became open source and that's where Firefox came from - it's the best and most well-supported fork of Netscape's code
just get pale moon and download the moonscape theme. literally a better experience since pale moon is firefox-based and even lighter on ram consumption
This is so sketchy but i honestly have no idea what to feel about this cause it's on the offical netscape site which is maintained by aol which is a part of yahoo which is owned by verizon why was this okay'd is it just a work in progress? Or did some random employee go rouge and do this behind verizon's backs
I find it interesting they used the 32bit version of chromium as a base. I guess they are targeting people that are running on older machines or they couldn't be bothered to do two builds, one for x86 and another for x86_64. But it means potentially it could perform worse than chrome.
The outdated marketing of that AOL shield thing, with the super old chromium design and the old logos makes me think this chromium Netscape has been around for a long time
Considering most people will either be (1) too young to remember Netscape; or (2) not give a crap about a long outdated browser, that's actually now just a chromium browser with bloatware & adware.
When I apply a Netscape skin in my Firefox, it's more Netscape than this. WTF
Because Firefox is an evolution of Netscape.
@@foxypiratecove37350 plus Firefox is based on the Gecko engine so it’s way more moddable than chromium and CSS based so Netscape making a proper comeback is more possible through a Gecko fork
Completely agree.
Wait can i do that?
Firefox based on netscape
Make the greatest comeback of the century ❌
shitty chromium ✅
Could've at least been a firefox fork, since firefox is basically netscapes successor
more like shitty chrome
(like i use chromium browsers and they just copy the whole chrome sorce code)
why would they do they tho. its clear that they going for the money@@fishhhvh
Me when I try to use something that isn't chrome or firefox
@Wzeyisbacklmao commie 😭✌️
When people reskin Chrome and put it under a different name, this happens.
And put malware in it ;)
this isn't malware, though. just deadass yahoo
@@MaxEditsSpore In the current case it's more an adware for a malware.
This is barely even reskinning, they just took the Chromium codebase and slapped their own name on it.
@@und4287 They even failed at it as there are still places with the Chromium icon.
I feel like if you're going to have a browser named after something as legendary as Netscape, you should at least have the decency to not use Chromium as its base.
At least make it firefox based, so you have some netscape lineage
IIRC the last versions of Netscape were based on the Mozilla Suite (and later, Firefox).
So I guess they could have used the FF engine, but maybe it's somehow harder to develop for? Idk.
@@und4287 They were
Or if it is chromium based, atleast customize it and change features like Edge, Opera, OperaGX, etc
@@Shadowility I wouldn't consider Opera since it's closed source and who knows what they're using our info for
> Be Netscape, an legendary browser back in the 90's and early 2000's;
> Begins to die, because of some shitty snob guy that's filthy rich from spywaresoft;
> Gets bought by AOL, permanently killing it;
> Years later, you decide to comeback...
> ...As another chromium fork, and a horrible one at that.
They could've at least tried to go with a gecko (aka firefox) fork, or an opera fork, but sadly, they chose the laziest option: chromium fork.
It's sad seeing netscape being used in this way. Netscape is dead a long time ago, stop desecrating it's corpse by incorporating chromium to it, and PUPs too.
Opera is Chromium-based
Really? I always thought opera was it's own thing. Did opera nowadays also decided to go with chromium too?
It's very sad. I just hope the gecko doesn't die and mutates into a chromium fork too, however, the sad thing is, the gecko might die and become chromium soon, because many, MANY browsers are all becoming more and more chromium forks.
As for gecko forks, there's barely any, other than librewolf, or pale moon.
Maybe one day, gecko forks will become popular, once people manage to find out some sort of obscure, severe vulnerability in it, that can't be patched or whatever.
@@Wake_up._This_isnt_your_world Yes. They are also chrome raskin now. Well at least there is no worse performing browser then google chrome itself...yet.
@@Wake_up._This_isnt_your_world Opera started as its own, but shifted to make it Chromium-based. I think and hope Firefox won't become Chromium-based as it would be a loss of history, as Firefox is based on the original source code of Netscape Navigator.
btw, i forgot to add something in my 2nd comment, because i sometimes have the habit of devouring words or mixing them up oof.
"Maybe one day gecko forks will become popular, once people manage to find out some sort of obscure, severe vulnerability in *CHROMIUM that can't be patched or whatever".
Sorry about that :p
waiter! waiter! more low-effort chromium forks!
back then, it was internet explorer frame in winforms
more like chromium skids kek
You either die a hero or live long enough to become suspicious software.
Or you die and some greedy company that is barely any relevant nowadays, decides to desecrate your corpse and reanimate your body with chromium, just to ridicule netscape, and firefox too, since netscape source code, was based on the gecko engine, which is what firefox nowadays use.
It died as a hero.
Then it revived as a villain
Firefox is open source so they could have just used that codebase if they wanted something closer to old netscape navigator
Yeah, since Firefox is based on the original Netscape Navigator
Even the last Netscape v9.0 is based from Firefox v2.0
AOL: "Am I really going to defile this grave for money?"
AOL: "OF COURSE I AM!"
Nice pfp Vtuber
How do I use your pronouns? What context? in what sense?
3:54 The text was in Lithuanian, my native language. At first I thought something popped up from my own browser. Weird to see Lithuanian text in an Enderman's video...
Can confirm, am Lithuanian
Seeing your native language in a video truly is weird...
he always sounded like an eastern european in videos and i think he mentioned being russian once but i am not sure
@@MattAttacks He is, indeed, Russian.
@@fireball54110services like twitter, yt and discord are banned here. he may be using a vpn 24/7
If this browser had a different look, a different name, a different branding, a different engine and a different installer, it could've gone hard. 🔥
Sounds like I’m sick of it
It's actually exist and called "Ladybird browser" that made purely from scratch without any source code from either Chromium or Firefox or WebKit. But it's not available for public yet, as the very first early alpha release will come as early as mid-late 2026
That's just "rebranded" Chromium because they only own the trademark, but the original Netscape source code is owned by the Mozilla foundation.
So Firefox is just a continuation of Netscape?
@@MarioKartSuperCircuit Yeah, if we look at the beginning of the Mozilla foundation, what was Netscape evolved into Firefox.
but Firefox is free software / open source, you can fork it just like Chromium, many did: Pale Moon, IceCat, LibreWolf
@@autumnblaze6267 Yeah, but I'm not sure we would like to have it Firefox-based anyway.
@@autumnblaze6267 and considering Netscape's original code should still be there, it shouldn't be impossible to make a replica of what Netscape initially looked like
more like, netscrape
Just call it Chrome by now there is absolutely no difference whatsoever
U romanian? Too? 😳
@@gmasnus hmm, poate...
i like my browser old bruh
Perfect 😁@@JannesHvH
Honestly, I was kind of expecting it to have the old Netscape UI, maybe appeal to nostalgia.
I was NOT expecting it to look exactly like Chrome.
Netscape didn't really leave. It became Firefox.
Nostalgia, but make it all -algia (pain).
i like my netscape chromium-based bruh
i like my windows uwp bruh
sick of it 🗣🗣
i like my adobe software pirated bruh
@@farjanamoonmoon6731 real shii
@@farjanamoonmoon6731I like my vegas pro bruh
Ironically, Netscape's spiritual successor is the non-chromium firefox
And its actual successor is SeaMonkey. Maintained actively, but not that up to date with current web standards. Also some extensions are unofficial and suspect. SeaMonkey itself is clean and trustworthy.
@@anandsharma7430 how do you now
@@kingzombie951 I did the research, downloaded it, used it, tested it, looked up reviews, and some more.
fr
now firefox's gui is a browser i guess
I was going to say, yeah, AOL and whoever owns their properties this week has been practicing Netscape "brand necrophilia" (as Jamie Zawinski put it) for a loooong time.
But I was not ready for a shonky Chromium jobbie. This is mega cursed.
well, it seems the chromium monopoly is here for good...
i hope firefox will stay!
sadly this can happend to firefox too, since you can build firefox from source, and modify it
Rather stick to waterfox.
@@Canleaf08 sure you can use a fork but if firefox dies then all of the forks die too, unless some big one takes the lead but right now I don’t see one. Waterfox, Icecat, LibreWolf, Mullvad, those are too niche and can’t become the leader. Zen is very niche too and experimental. The only potential one that could do it is Floorp, but that’s still very niche. Basically every fork of Firefox is niche
"i like my netscape chromium-based bruh" -poldek 2024, youtube live chat
😭😭😭😭
Your English has really improved over the years, Ender!
Enderman voice >>> Music + Text
You could literally fork Firefox and do this and it would be way more accurate 😂
Or just use a Netscape skin like commenter @funie2 suggested
I hate premieres. I click on it and am in the middle of the video, and as I rewind to the start I get that weird 1:45 minute long intro.
then don't watch them 😂
-@@OakBlox
That irony when Firefox is a descendant of Netscape and that ancestor went Chromium 💀
when a company trying to make money but they dont know where to start
definitely prefer the videos where you do voice over instead of just text
@@DouglasWalrath The voice definitely needs to be mono'd out though. As he moves around the mic you can hear it from ear to ear.
if you make netscape, use firefox as base since firefox have lineage of netscape.
THEY PULLED A FLAPPY BIRD?
Yep, pretty much
Firefox такой типа : ура батя вернулся... а где хлеб?
хлеб спиздил AOL (America OnLine)
Well, thanks to whoever had this brilliant idea....
...to make the new Netscape a nostalgia-bait Chromium fork.
Ngl this should be named Chromescape, because it doesn't resemble at all netscape. It's just there for the bait. Probably installs a miner or something in your computer, because it's the perfect way to get you to install something thinking "OML GREATEST COMEBACK?????", and then get virused.
I immediately liked the video, even before watching it, as soon as I heard your voice. Personally, I like your voiceover videos much more than the subtitled ones. I hope you continue doing that in more future videos.
Netscrap 🗣🔥
this video got me an idea: what would happen if you install as many shady browsers as possible? a little fun research project to see which one is scummiest than the other.
Like how the browser itself is literally just google chrome. At the very least they could have made it look like Netscape did back in the day with some quality-of-life features like tabs.
Netscap,more like ...Netscam
netscape*
Never thought Netscape was owned by AOL, but it makes sense in hindsight considering how both were designed around the same time for getting connected onto the internet
Netscape - a web browser : ❌
Netscape - a fuckin skid with name changed : ✅
At this point making an own Chromium fork is gonna be more useful, less sketchy and less bloatware overall
or you could fork firefox
Hey man just wanted to say its nice to hear you narrate / voice over instead of subtitles. Great content as per usual
Forking Chromium to then use the Netscape name. This looks like a vendor specific browser for 'security software 'product' - trying to keep the 'Netscape' name alive lol
Netscape used to be dang good. The only reason internet explorer beat it was. Well. Because there is no competing with free. Netscape used to cost money, all browsers used to. And it's weird to think about.
..It's sorta weird that browsers are all free now. They are hugely important and powerful tools. And we get them for free.
Yea yea all that when you are not paying you aren't the customer but the product. But really.
I remember when they rebranded new firefox as netscape some time ago, but that's another level lmao.
Wait, It's all Chromium?
*Always has been.*
NOOOOOOOOO!
Tried installing this browser on a VM and Chrome after that, when Chrome opened I got a pop up saying that the "Search and New Tab by AOL" got added by another program.
Netscape is used as a nostalgia bait Trojan horse to upsell you on AOL Shield. No wonder why Yahoo! and AOL are two brands that nobody cares about.
I'm actually the person who originally found this! I'm glad people are finally finding out this absolutely mind boggling thing exists.
nice!!!
When I was doing research into old browser cause I'm tired of chrome and was seeing if there's a updated version of those old browser this is one of them I found didn't install it glad I didn't
3:59 i thought that WAS chrome until you mentioned it
They had 2 choices:
Literally netscape navigator
[insert buzz lightyear meme]
Alas, AOL has been advertising junkware in with their products since the late 2000s, good to see that hasn't changed much. Ever since AIM shut down and their chat rooms disappeared from AOL Desktop Gold (their current desktop client for the remaining AOL subscribers), AOL is practically on life support, so they keep advertising even more blatant junkware to stay alive.
3:49 LITHUANIA MENTIONED LET'S GOOOOOOO
Firefox evolved from Netscape. At least make it Gecko based!
I'm saddened when I learned that it's a chromium fork. At least make it based on Firefox... (considering that Firefox is a spiritual successor to it)
AOL and Netscape used to be good names and browsers in the computer industry now they are crappy chromium forks that only changed the branding... what has happened to this world
UA-cam doesn't even let me type the browser name these days, which is quite frustrating on retro tech channels.
yeah, deffintly suspicious? next video: i decompile netescape and i found malware☠☠☠
r/engrish
Netscape's downfall makes me sad :,(
seamonkey
how the hell did the company even manage to not go bankrupt with literally NO activity after like 20 years.
*chormium??? this thing is legendary, and 20 years later IT USES CHROMIUM, insane, bravo, great researching, brainstorming for a new version of netscape 20 years later! they did fking nothing!*
I used Netscape 0.9 a beta version back in 1994. Actually I was an Alpha tester of ARPANET (forerunner of Internet) back in 1969 when I was in High school sending an e-mail using a Telex machine hooked up to an acoustic modem using a telephone handset. I still get my Internet through a land-line phone. Who needs a cell phone? I would rather have a desktop PC with 2 monitors.
2:31 for context why it shows Verizon's privacy policy and ToS is most likely due to the fact that not too long ago, Verizon Communications actually owned AOL
Mouse scrolling ASMR at 10:15
*Netscape turned into Mozilla in the 2000s.
Bro, that's Chromescape
This really gives me that vibe of using a public PC in like a hotel office.
In the Chromium fork scene, you have two kinds of forks:
- The ones that wants to serve a legitimate purpose like Brave, Vivaldi, Supermium, ...
- And the others that just want to take you for a fool.
They should rebrand as Netscrap, Netscrape, or Netscam. Or they could also try Gecko…
Couldn't they let the name rest in peace? As someone who loved the original browser before Microsoft bullied it out of business, this is just so sad. Hopefully this fails and goes away quickly.
*Top 10 anime betrayals*
You should use some mitm proxy to see what it does when idle - if it sends what it shouldn't where it shouldn't
cant wait for the new version of NCSA Mosaic
they did a fire job w/ the prompting for the ai upscale of the Netscape logo tho. LOL
Screw the new Netscape, I'll stick with my installation of the original, thank you very much.
Good job Enderman! Have a nice day🎉
But wasn't Firefox the new version of Netscape? Like, netscape's code became open source and that's where Firefox came from - it's the best and most well-supported fork of Netscape's code
Curious... These terms of service are for Verizon, they owned AOL back a few years ago, but not anymore. These "project" can be a few years old.
@henriquepicanco97 That is very possible. It's Chromium version started with 123.*******. Currently it's in the 130.******.
Netscape never left, they just changed the name to Firefox.
3:15 That‘s illegal in the EU
Unwanted chromium fork implies the existence of a wanted chromium fork
AOL owns Netscape. Verizon owns AOL. Ergo the Verizon links in the installer. And yes, Verizon is one of the major telecom companies over here
the new intro came back, would you look at that
Hey Enderman! How's life going up recently?
I wish I was around during the Windows 95 and Netscape golden days; they seem fun :(
just get pale moon and download the moonscape theme. literally a better experience since pale moon is firefox-based and even lighter on ram consumption
AOL Shield did have one extra setting so AOL Shield is an upgrade for "Netscape" that... attempts to convince you to purchase even more upgrades. Wow.
This is so sketchy but i honestly have no idea what to feel about this cause it's on the offical netscape site which is maintained by aol which is a part of yahoo which is owned by verizon why was this okay'd is it just a work in progress? Or did some random employee go rouge and do this behind verizon's backs
I find it interesting they used the 32bit version of chromium as a base. I guess they are targeting people that are running on older machines or they couldn't be bothered to do two builds, one for x86 and another for x86_64.
But it means potentially it could perform worse than chrome.
Netschrome 💀
3:59 LITHUANIA MENTIONED RAHHHHH 🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹🇱🇹
that so called "NetScape"ᵀᴹ is more like NetShadyᵀᴹ
that falloff should be studied
The outdated marketing of that AOL shield thing, with the super old chromium design and the old logos makes me think this chromium Netscape has been around for a long time
netscape from temu dawg 🔥
Netscape returns as a terrible Chromium fork, Limewire returns as an NFT company, what’s next? Clippy returning as a ChatGPT clone?
4:12 Oh that was fucking nasty!
Considering most people will either be (1) too young to remember Netscape; or (2) not give a crap about a long outdated browser, that's actually now just a chromium browser with bloatware & adware.
Older AOL Shield was a fork of Firefox.
sentrybay is a british security company based in london and its wierd that they made the installer
I Legit expected to see some prankster gangster stuff
What's so terrible on edge you mentioned? It just works