Why I Quit NIKKE
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2023
- Was a fun few weeks then it became a drag, at least now I cut my losses before I felt more remorse playing this game.
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the only regret i have in azur lane is i didn’t play the game earlier
Lmao same, I feel that.
Still looking at the neptunia, kizuna ai, and hololive characters with sadness.
at least half a year earlier so I didn't miss SSSS collab...
BIG SAME
Keep up with the grind you’ll be able to catch up with the mid to end game players, only took me 2 year to catch-up 😅
AL is the only gacha game that i'll stay with forever
Edit: Hell, I love this game so much I even grind 2 accounts at the same time
Azur Lane appeals to me because it often focuses on casual gamers more than most gachas. No stupid whaling necessary and most of the money they make is off the outfits which is 100% justifiable and doesn't leave a sour taste on the community.
Arknights would be a close runner up but the gacha rates in that game can be horrid and pulling that one character can be very important
Based
As long as they make Good Skins i will buy them. Just come on give us Enty and Eugen Retrofit 😭
Yes @Victor
I spent the most of money (on AL skins) than all gatcha games out there
The lack of gem income is honestly the root of many of their problems, the issues with pity and progression could be greatly motivated if one had more summons.
agreed, maybe if they at some point become more generous with the gems id go back
I more on the idea that they give us an guarantee SSR after a long grind like the Tower or something similar.
Because I hate the fact that 7 time I hit 50 shard and open them only 2 is an SSR and other 5 are garbage.
I don't mind we don't get much gem but playing week/month for that spare core so I can have enough power to not get 1 shot on the harder map is freaking cancer. Then again the require power to attempt to beat it is like 10000+ above me at this point.
What was Crazy to me was the „do chapters to get Gems“ pack. Many Games sell These and thats okay so i did buy it. But then After Chapter 6 or so you had to buy a new pack for more Chapters and i was like „hold up Wait a Minute something aint right“
It looks like I was wrong, considering the developers of Genshin to be greedy lazybones. The developers of Nikke have surpassed them many times over. It took me only two weeks to give up this game. Azur Lane is the best.
@@Esendor not surprising at all since its Level Infinite/ Tencent known for pushing pay to win stuff in players faces just like what happened to Tower of Fantasy its failing so bad
It was such a kick in the gutt when I realised, that the tower molds don't have a 100% SSR chance... You barely get any molds in the tower and then it can be a shitty blue unit. >.
Pilgrim Mold to get a sr. Get fucked
I'm an AL player for 4 years and counting and not planning to stop. It is a very rewarding game for f2p gamers, the community is very "cultured" and the content still manages to be fresh.
Not only that but in AL you can mix and match ANY shipgirl for all your team and still clear most if not all content.
@@Dante999000 Lol it works until first clear Chapter 14
@@leoliu5472 that only means my UR team can only go as far as either chapter 12 or 13.
No thx. I stopped playing aL. It was a blessing
@@Dante999000 Well you need specific URs and SRs in 14 to do a good job, not any would work very well. Otherwise it will be hard to get the clear all enemies star. You could just 100% clear it and get that star later. That would be easier.
It feels good choosing blindly your first gacha game as Azur Lane. I found Azur Lane ad on youtube by accident half a year ago. Back then when I started playing I had high fever over 40C and couldn't even sit, cause of chest ache in lungs. I spent few days just laying, suffocating and playing AL. After I recovered I asked myself does this game even has weak sides, to be honest I couldn't find any. Then I went watch opinions of gacha games on yt, AL is just this good compared to everything else. I love the fact of having "normal" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) community, compared to genshin where it's like: "So that's where my 5star is you !@#$%!". Also the fact it's just a slow paced game, that you don't have to speedrun it in order to have fun. It's like watching moe slice of life where cute girls do cute things, I mean not exactly, but this is how it feels to me, there's no rush (tbh i don't like SOLs too much). And this damn jewish cat, this term always makes me laugh, it takes some serious abilities to make a game that one will give their money and be happy about it. I love that there is not even a one bad feeling between devs and community, it's just not the skin someone wanted. Just sheer "positivity" on streams ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) , no really, I mean this is some really good work to unite and entertain people. I feel this game deserves at least 9/10 if not 10/10. Correct me if I'm wrong :D
yeah you lucked out if AL was your first gacha
I played Battle Cats before and that was watching tons of advertisements to get cat food to pull the good characters. It was terrible but I was also grinding anime. Battle cats compared to Azur Lane, Battle cats do not stand. When I first watched my friend play I thought it was some kind of inappropriate game.
For an idle game that doesn't let you idle an exp grind was the first red flag for me. Then when the rewards were fully known and it took a month of playing *everyday* to get a 10 pull, that was it. Even Epic Seven's 120 pity or Azur Lane's 200 pity is generous. At least you could *farm* for it.
Commission spam OP and the devs just throws a lot free pulls as well! Azur Lane is the best fir sure. Have 2,200 Cubes now by just playing the game for 3 years and best part is that I already have everyone!
Go play FGO and then come back. This guys complaints are very trivial compared to FGO and Genshin Impact.
@@SheldonDarianRoachtalk like a real corporste slave.
We have standards .sorry but not sorry
Nikke is pure garbage
In Blue archive, you can farm every item necesary, from xp to what you need for equipment and specials, you only need one copy of the character and that level up, no need of dupes, and all characters can be useful if you level them up, in Aether gazer everithing can be farm too, even dupes, by figthing, and even when you need dupes there are many ways to improve them, Nikke is the first gatcha that is iddle that there is a limit, for how much you can get and can not get a lot from waiting, so is enter and just colect and do nothing
I quitted when I got 0 SSRs from 170 pulls.
The moment i quit when i wanted to pull a 110 level character to level 125, i have like a week saved in outpost and everithing, everithing two levels, angry i said ok i am a free to play player, and i have 10, 10 pulls so 100 pulls, and i think ok maybe one SSR, and not a single SSR, i quit there, and return two months later, and o mi lord is even worst, now there are more SSR, so is harder to even have one as they dilute the pool, they give more resources but the enemy are even more tanky, they dont hit much harder but they are damage sponges, is a joke and if as a free to play player dont have a pilgrim character you will literaly crawl
@@Krysnha Get an SSR from a 10 pull? I got like 4 SSRs from a 30 pull this truly seems like a skill issue no offense
I'm glad that the first gacha game that I played was Azur Lane. Can't replace it even trying hard. I also uninstalled Nikke because I felt I was wasting my time, and besides the story, I wasn't enjoying it. Better wait until someone finishes the story and read it on UA-cam later lol
same.. already said it, Azur Lane is my FIRST & LAST gacha game i play
Play azur lane and was having a blast, but the equipment thing and the jump in power score in the enemy at world 10 no thanks, no i am in neural cloud and eversoul, i agree azur lane has a lot for it and congratualte the game but no thanks
tbh i'm an AL player who's in the war veteran-esque levels
Agreed with all criticisms. The only thing i would add is that i felt the daily tasks were really long and boring. I also hated how toxic people in the community would reply to every criticism with "well, it is an idle game."
Also, i got about 8 faction molds from the tower and got one faction SSR. No it was not pilgrim. This didn't cause me to quit but it for sure contributed.
Never started Nikke and after your advice I definitely never will. Thank you very much for your advice.
I think that we all felt that way about this game. The art is pretty cool, advertising was nice, the story was pretty complex and full of interesting characters so who in the rngjesus thought that making that kinda system is a good idea. It's like they wanted this game to fail.
Ngl they dont expect that this games go boom in first day and the revenue they get, they just brush it off like nothing and the games still buggy in every single updates.
I like how you left out the biggest reason why Nikke got so many players on release. Even though it turned out to be a buggy mess of a game for over a month after release.
COOMERS love jiggle physics.
Aside from the eye-candy coomer bait. The game is a giant testament to everything wrong with gacha games. Prioritizing the exploitation of the wallets of it's playerbase above all else..
@@SuperCatacata I left it out cause that wasn't the reason I started playing it. My friends on discord picked it up, and so did I. Nikke is not the only one to blame for objectification of women's bodies but this shit is so normalized in anime community that no one bats an eye. I am glad u mentioned this topic cause no one seems to give a shit.
@@SuperCatacata they lost coomers too because of the censorship rofl
@@passiveaggresivesquirrel2052 lmfao muh objectification of wahmens bodies,yet wahmens choose to go on only fans for simp blood money,yeah ok buddie thats deff the problem.
I was so disappointed with Nikke I was more than ready to go all in on this game, but the aggressive monetization, Bugs upon bugs and more aggressive monetization (double BP, 3 skins, No gems but endless banners, Needing multiple copies etc) then the devs fumbling everything possible to a skin change and translation. I definitely regret spending some of my money on the game
Well I started Nikke a little bit later so I am at 120 lvl acc and all, the problems you addressed still not reached me in full yet but I already kinda foreseeing them so you somewhat confirmed some things I was scared of being a thing there, thanks for that, I might also re-think playing it, and Im kinda in need of reducing the amount of my games anyway x D So I heard you, Kimo! thx for sharing experience
That's his problem for being a PvP player lol. I never cared for PvP except to get the tickets for the shop.
good grief... I think early at least 1 month of playing before I spent anything I already felt it will be bad, but I didn't expect it to be as worst as you described on this video.
Well said, you covered up basically everything wrong with Nikke in this 1 video. People will get fed up with the no progression, lack of pulls and the ritualistic dailies eventually. Like you said the Stockholm syndrome is strong on F2P players in this game.
What's the meaning Stockholm syndrome in the game? What i know is that a syndrome you like to live with he kidnapper
Great timing. I just quit last night in the middle of doing my dailies. There's just no reason or reward in continuing to play when progression is gated by luck. The game was a sufficient enough letdown that I was playing only for the story, but I can't even follow through on that because of the terrible progression system.
What a waste. This game was set up to be an amazing experience, but they squeezed too hard. Meanwhile, I dropped $30 on a lucky bag in Azur Lane, a game that demands nothing, for the very reason that it demands nothing, while the thought of doing so for a game like Nikke where it would net me a tangible advantage is simply unthinkable.
I quit 3 weeks ago and man, I've been very happy. I really appreciate Arknights and Azur Lane for being the best. Never have to pay for anything and still enjoy them without worries but I do to support them! Nikke was broken and the meta was terrible, all those SSRs we had and only a handful are actually good which is sad. As a person who was in the CBTs, a lot of bugs still haven't been fixed, the developers are incompetent and before someone say "bUt It'S tEnCeNt's FaUlT!", it was their fault with the censorship but not everything else that was developed, it was Shift Up's fault, they had 5-6 years. The game was just for people who spends a lot of money, being F2P is literally be lucky or you'll suffer same with dolphins and whales.
Wait, this game has censorship?
@@indexwell6546 if you check out the original designs and pre-release lots of clothes and designs were changed already bordering on censorship but the publishers always make the excuse it wasn't the final design. Mumbo jumbo when its clear to see its BS
@@indexwell6546 Indeed, check the first trailers and several have mine and o mi, i mean there werent porn, but come on, from belly, to ass checcks to more and more, a fanservice game that is censor, that the power creep, kill me
if only nikke followed the azur lane system when it comes to leveling characters. like having bullins to limit break any ships, free pulls like dailies rewards you 1 pull if you pull once, can play non-meta ships
Not to mention some characters are just useless, after a time, in any way or form, so why even have them if they are so useless or certain characters are so superior that why even have so many inferior ones
4% rate also isn't as good as it sounds because the monthly gacha income is very low
How and why has this game survived without pity? I came on to check it out cause of the chainsaw collab and was going try to get the units but each time I make a new account never get a SSR.
i literally got an nikke ad before the video😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
did not expect a 30min vid for this
edit: i never understood why Pilgrim rates were lower than the rest for a gacha game that need dupes to progress.
Pilgrims are supposed to be the strongest class. Which is why they are harder to get
They weren't lying when they said that NIKKE's rate were 4%, coz of how crippled the progression is in this game, only 4% of the active playerbase will be able to walk past the lvl 160 hard wall
Me, an FGO player.
*cries
Worst is taht they lie and sai o no is not that hard only wait and collect stuff so you know, dont play, a game to not play
Bruh it takes patience lmao
@@Krysnha But it isn't that hard like Nikke isn't really a "main" game it's like a side game. Some days I don't really play the game because I don't got time (I do dailies) and other times I get through a whole story chapter in one session. I hit the 160 wall a week ago and I already see myself clearing with how I got 1 mlb, 1 two star, and like 8 one starred characters. Beating the wall just takes strategy through using the friendship pulls, SSR molds, and the standard banner using thw wishlist on already owned units. Even if I'm not playing the main story there's still the event stories, the newly added side story, the daily missions, all those EX & Sub Stages I didn't do, and even the Archives if your really bored, so it's not like I have nothing to do. The only time I see people complain about this game is when they have too much time on their hands and wish they could speedrun the campaign, but Nikke isn't a race it's a marathon. Even when I don't progress I find fun with the updates every 2 weeks and the next update is Half Anni which is likely give a free mlb-ed character :):)
@@daviduba5060 i know, i know, i know is a side game, i know, but i mean, i understand,
I dropped it because I only play for cosmetics. and I didnt know there was a purchase lockout period on monthly pass. Also that once you get the pass, you actually have to clear the pass levels for the outfit. That is insanity.
Theres no way to grind resources. I've bene stuck at level 130 because I have no materials to increase my Nikke. Also, the difficulty in the story is insane even after they turned it down.
Not to mention, I'm so sick of getting microtransactions thrown in my face. It feels like there is no progression unless you have certain Nikke or spend a bunch.
That is why i quit, no way to get resorces and was stuck and nothing to do
If they make the Mold are 100% SSR guarantee then it would be so good.
How annoying is to get the gacha currency in NIKKE? SSRs in AL also don't have pity but because it's kinda easy to get a lot of cubes as F2P that gives the game a good balance.
It's abysmal, they don't even have a monthly log in for resources like we have in Azur Lane, hell, other games have it as well. The game is literally for spenders but people still defend the broken game.
To play Nikke, you need 4 SSRs of the same character. Meanwhile every f**king other games don't need dupes or have a farmable exchange shop.
With that in mind... If you played the game religiously and clearing every single damn content in the Nikke game, you only get on average 200 gems daily considering Campaign is exhausted its reward up. A pull costs 300, that means 2/3rd of a pull and a bonus 3 half-rate pulls from social point. Totalling a 2.25 regular gacha pulls a day or 9% SSR daily.
But you need 4 SSRs including dupes while every single competitor only needs 1 SSR. Nikke has 4% SSR while Arknights has 2% SSR with Pseudo Random Distribution Pity and Azur Lane has 7% True RnG.
Dividing rates by SSR required, 4%/4 =1% meaning you progress through Nikke's gacha twice as slow compared to Arknights 2% before pity, and 7 times slower than Azur Lane.
The finisher, Arknights have Recruitment out of Headhunt and Azur Lane allows you to farm Cubes. This alone speeds up your progression and collection speed by orders of magnitudes higher than Nikke's unreliable nerfed SSR Molds.
All of that not considering Azur Lane, Arknights, and Blue Archive has PvP shop, raid shop, free event characters, post gacha selectable SSR shop, hard mode campaign shop, endgame mission exchange shop, and f**king more apologems in a single hotfix than Nikke's total non event maintenance combined.
Beem playing since launch and never had a problem with the game except that level up has become slower. Otherwise, I am pretty good on Gems and never pulled hard except for Modernia. From what I've seen in this video this guy is a PvP player who can't keep up and is mad lol. Never take PvP seriously in gacha.
The world would be different if yostar took nikke under their care
Facts
HG to be precise
Gold frames are for those that rush earlier, i still managed to get it from rushing Hard Campaign and Tribe tower after realizing too late. Absolutely agree with what hes saying about the unfair system. Azure lane is great with the exception that collab characters that you miss/didnt manage to pull are not obtainable now that sucks..
Tbh i quit because it took too much of my time and the 160 wall. I pulled for everything up to Modernia and got them all with few 10 pulls, I even left my "pity ticket" (the 200 thingys) unused.
Now, Granblue fantasy just so happens to be an 8 years old game. If you're new (wellcome), it's gonna suck for a long time but believe me when i tell you that you can play the hardest content in this game without paying a single cent.
You are right about the cons stuff in Nikke.
Modernia banner scares me to death. Never ever in my life pull so much just to get her. In the end, these 72k gems never enough and i had to get her single and copy from the shops. this game became trauma for many people. Even Exos Heroes doesnt treat me like this lol
Dude I am afraid to try exos I've seen red flags cause I heard they made a massive fuck up
I got lucky with her.
I believe in Azur Lane supremacy
That border thing actually almost made me quit. I didn't pay attention to the rankings much, since I had no idea what I was doing. Once I had gotten comfortable and settled, I decided to go look into it. Saw the border rewards and went cool, new goal. Just to be confused why I didn't make progress, despite passing some folks up. Unfortunately there was one guy who I guess knew what was up, because he dominated every single category from the start. I think I'm now the most powerful person on my server, but I will never be able to catch up in towers since it's daily gated. Unless everyone just stops playing, before the cp jumps become too much for even me. I didn't spread myself thin in all nikke types, so I'm not catching up with those rankings. And the only things left where I can take the number one spot are later stages. Which have massively jumped in cp. All while I'm about to hit the 160 wall, with only a few max nikkes.
Only reason I'm still playing is I actually like the story. I wanted to see the rest of the bond stories. And I haven't tired of the game yet. But I'm maybe a few days away from being stuck at 160. And I could always just watch the stories on UA-cam..... idk.
As an active Nikke player, I agree with a lot of what you said here. I do have my own gripes with this game, one of them being the absurd difficulty spikes in Normal mode. I could understand these spikes in Hard mode.
Also, I'm about 2 or 3 weeks removed from finally breaking the Lv.160 wall. I personally think that there should have been something to help alleviate the MLB requirement.
Remember Dragalia Lost? There were dragons you could transform into; for instance, there were 5* dragons you could pull, and you could use dupes of the dragon to Limit Break them. However, Dragalia Lost had a system where if for some reason, you didn't have any dragon dupes, you could use a certain item "in lieu of" dragon dupes to (Max) Limit Break these dragons. Even better, if you had both dragon dupes and these items (Sunlight Stones), you could use them both to Limit Break 5* dragons.
At the end of the day, I won't get upset with you for dropping Nikke. Games are supposed to be FUN. The day that a game ceases being fun for a player, then he has every right to drop it.
That is a very mature answer, in these day, the day a game is no longer fun you can quit feeling well
God I miss Dragalia. Truly the peak gacha experience. It's criminal that it got shut down in it's prime.
The only reason why I stop playing this game is because I dont get the character I want to play, I don't need many SSR that I dont like
Nikke is still sitting next to Blue Archive on my phone because I liked the story and first couple of Nikkes and I liked the *idea* of the gameplay. I just never really clicked with what I should be doing? It's really similar to BA, but Gravedigger kicked my ass so hard I lost sense of how the game works. Should I just juice 5 units and brute force it?? What 5 units, then?? It's confusing to begin with, and then on top of that, it's stingy.
I also just don't have the time for more than 2 gachas, it seems. BA is great and Azur Lane spoils me rotten, so I'm just gonna stick with that.
Edit: Nikke is no longer on my phone 😤
Same, I dropped Nikke within the first two weeks when it dropped. I've tried multiple gacha and idle games but the two that I have been playing every day now for over a year is Azur Lane and Blue Archive.
I drop after the month, i was stuck and couldnt do anything, then i return two months ago and new acount, fix the crashes and a week later crashes come back, stages give more rewards but enemies are more sponges, than ever, and move more, no way to grind resources, f these
I knew it was time to quit when I set my alarm to remind me to do daily chores, in AL I log in cause I want to.
Now you are free, you even got a chance to vent your anger lol. Nikke was a disapointment to me too, luckily l didnt stick around long as the technical issues chased me away in the first week
It too me a month and i quit, the day i quit was the day i try to level a 11o character and i have to use everyhting from mi outpost for 2 levels, and that the boss of world 12 i think was a flying thing fly really high and i couldnt shoot properly to the weack point i couldnt kill him, i was stuck there in betwen level up the characters and mi pilgrim characters that are mi strongest and i couldnt get another copy
Horrible pulls , expensive skins, lvl 160 wall , shitty events etc
Yeah lol the skins are expensive as hell plus some are behind a pass
Wait... How does one get a "Private" server in this game?
in 6 months he'll be done with eversoul
I quit eversoul, when even with whales character, i couldnt progress anynmore
Azur lane was the first gacha game I ever played. Started playing about a month after it first came out all those years ago and to this day no game has been able to even come close to it. Not only is the story good, waifus amazing, pull rates very generous, very f2p friendly I had 800 cubes saved at one point just by logging in and doing dailys. Not only is it all that but the devs are very friendly, how many times have some bug come out and they fix it quickly, or for some of us where it benefits the players hold off on fixing it till the next major update. Not to mention the large amount of apologies we get every now and then. It's quite possible to save for skins if you save every gem and even then they add plenty of free skins. No azur lane will continue to be the only gacha I play, for how long I don't know but whenever azur lane no longer becomes fun the whole player base will weep
Didn't care for it cause it's barely a game. The gameplay is so bland that getting new characters doesn't matter.
Lots of these games are simply money grabs. What surprises me is how many people pay up (despite knowing that it is a money grab) in order to "win" or rank highly on the leaderboard. Spending thousands just sounds insane to me. As someone who has ranked highly on the leaderboard on some games before (spending a small amount of money or no money), I'd have to say it doesn't bring a lot of happiness to me, so that definitely wouldn't be a reason to spend money for me.
I quitted it a long time ago for lots of reasons
To mention some, one is the complete waste of time it is doing dailies since they give cheap ass rewards; just look at the simulation room where you can't skip battles and gives you a stupid amount of skillbooks
Two, the fact that you're almost forced to pay to play at some point (unless you got VERY lucky) since you need the 5 uncapped SSRs to get over 160lvl
Three, the fact that EVERY SINGLE TIME there's an update or some new content, is bugged as shit, and nevertheless they prioritize fixing payments and shop bugs instead of gameplay issues
All in all, I just felt mildly insulted everyday everytime I opened it
I could say that fat tits and great thicc booties are very good, but sadly, they're not enough to salvage this shitshow of a game. At least for me, that is.
P.S. don't make me start whine about "skins" for nikke; they are just a outfit recolor or some clothes swapped here and there. No diversified movement, barely any new dialogues nor expressions, almost a scam
Man, Nikke was this clos to be the next big thing, but Tencent always seek greed over reputation.....
I mean Nikke if they allow to farm the resources, or have like other iddles a sistem to grind and farm the resources, would have been great, and i didnt even ask for more pulls only farm resources like xp and money and that, but they dont have even that
I remember watching your nikke grind streams, and the only thing I remember is you were raging and yelling so badly
Man i havent played azur lane for over a year because im really busy with work i come home very tired and dont have energy to play to catch up i watch your content to keep up with the new stuff. Nothing really cant beat our ship waifus. Love your content bro
I hope your video will show Nikke Devs some direction to improve their game.
Thay might but thay would probably not care because thay want the game to be the way it is bur if he gets a chance maybe he can talk to them about how it is
And also because thay only want money and money is not what you need it’s people who want to have fun and not pay for so much as no one is going to pay a game that taks so long
Glad you made this video. I heard the soundtrack and enjoyed it and wanted to look into the game.
Sounds like they won't be getting my business.
I want to quit the game but i cant leave my waifus like man i feel bad if i leave Brid and Milk
The leader board is the same reason I finally stopped playing honkai impact. It didn't matter how good I did, if I was unlucky I'd get pushed out an hour before server reset by people with maxed gear. For genshin when I saw the drop rates I didn't even bother
I'm a bit confused here. Hearing Kimo's Nikke criticism reminded me of the problems of Fire Emblem Heroes but the successes of Genshin Impact. Given GI's hard pity system I'm not even considering drop rates to be existent before 90 pulls. Since there's no PvP having every character is meaningless so I can just worry about favoritism.
How much gachas do yall play? I only play 2 and i feel like my life time is cut in half. 1 is too much what do yall think
Aether gazer one, as two feel too much and majority are too much, i month ago doing these and blue archive, and i win it, i end all contect, and well for me blue archive and aether gazer i love and have fun, punishing gray raven is region lock, and all miyoho games ballon out of control
My only regret is that I didn't play earlier, just broke the 160 wall and got all of the Pilgrims, lets goo!
I used to play it everyday since launch, that was...until 3 weeks ago. The rates and how stingy it is with gems, it really turns me off. I haven't uninstalled since I like the story a lot but I'm just not playing it daily anymore, dunno when I'll hop back into it tbh. Meanwhile Azur Lane is the game that keeps on giving, I started playing it last year and it was easy to get over 200 Cubes in a month or two, it's generosity, gameplay and story is what has me hooked
I don't even think you mentioned the fact that you need 11 copies to fully max a nikke, and that at some point your level cap is determined by your collection. In Azur lane the collection bonuses are minor and takes a long time to build up. In nikke imagine your level cap is 200 but some whale is lvl 400. good luck ever getting close
only the first 4 copies affect level cap, nice misinfo
@@davidnovin4781 Do you even play the game? 5 Nikkes x 3 Limit Breaks are 15 copies to unlock Synchro Device. That's waaaaay worse than his math mistakes or yours.
@@defaulted9485 A bit of re-correction: you need 5 SSR Nikkes x 4 for not only getting base Nikke but also limit breaks, which is 20 copies. What's more, it's not to UNLOCK the Synchro Device, it's to reach its max potential for all Nikkes (since you can only reach the max lvl of 200 when you limit break a SSR 3 times, and you sync to the top 5th Nikke you own). Legitimate criticism, but not as accurate as you wanted.
I quit months ago. The writing was on the all and seeing Tencents involvement was enough for me to uninstall.
You just had to look at what weekly gem income was going to be like once you're progression slowed to realize it was going to take MONTHS to save for 1 pity when they were rapidfire releasing new characters...
I did enjoy the story, but nah, not wasting time on that wall.
Other than a pitty system, what do you think a Gacha game needs to do to be really good?
And what's something you haven't seen yet, that will improve gacha games?
For me a gatcha a good gatcha games, need a pity sistem, farming all at least all the basic resources, that all the characters can be star up, and if you want to win money, ok sell skins and maybe some characters but if you do that make sure that even with patient can have the characters, also make sure that you always have a way free to play players can progress, not defeat a whale or anything but a way to not ge tstuck doing nothing
Azur lane did a good job with summon rates not being too high and f2p players can save up their cubes for events
Yup and agreed, in fact as of right now I have about 4052 cubes in my inventory while waiting for the next UR event since I'm saving my jewels for dock spaces.
Compulsively logging in every day to min/max gems and spending hours a day chasing a never ending stream of worthless rewards. the state of gacha players is genuinely sad
@@karayi7239 agreed; while I do play gacha apps, I still prefer single player console games like Ace Combat and Devil May Cry since they are the whole package rather than the bit by bit installation of events from these apps.
I was giving Nikke a 3rd try getting close to 150 sync, and the 160 wall wasnt bothering me because it was at the bottom list of gachas to play per day so i was super casual but the bugs is what i cant tolerate, random crashes, arena loading screen bugs and stays at 100% loading and when you reopen the game it consumed your entry, enemy going behind walls and doesnt recieve damage and everytime there is an update something breaks and becames a laggy mess forcing to reinstall the whole damn game because they cant test what they update.
If i wanted to play a game devolped by a stingy company i would redownload genshin....wich i did but at least on Genshin im not limited on what i can or cant do.
I started nikke a year-ish after azur lane. The lack of gacha pulls and the constant bugs made me drop nikke after a month or 2, even as a super casual player on both. Azur i feel if I dont have something is either cause i didnt bother to get or I somehow got cucked by unlucky pulls (damn you Shinano). Hell, I got to world 13 recently and finally had to learn how to build a decent fleet and did it easily. Now all I need is a damn Bremerton rerun.
Bremerton already got a rerun; I got her on it cause I missed the 1st one. RIP.
yeah but asian servers have the event in the war archives, im mostly waiting for that
@@gompoi Good luck.
Amen brother, still keeping the game installed because i want to passively get rewards from event, but i just do that. I keep the game because i have a little shimmer of hope that Shift up will wake up and: - make simulation completely skippable once you have completed it once - same with Special interception, completely skippable - change all dailies and make them fast. Right now i'm playing Blue Archive and you finish your ap and dailies in like 1 minute. Compare that to Nikke, AN IDLE GAME that has 1 hour of daily "content".
I win Blue archive less than a month, all sotry and nearly all stages, wiouth putting a peny, and i love it and yes dailies there and lot of content every day, amaising music, love the characters and all characters can become good and strong, at different of nikke that you depend on luck to have good characters, and then just come and do nothing
Why you really quit...
Post nut clarity
There's no denying it lol
Lol I quit the game because the game just didnt allow me to build the train station even though i had the blueprint. So i was softlocked and didnt want to play a different game
what a scary game to play, i've come to like not only azur lane, but Arknights too
I quit the first week then came back 2 weeks ago. I've got a ways before 160.
I'm also 10k under power so I probably won't be progressing anytime soon. (I've only got 1 ssr dupe so that wall might be permanent anyways)
The funny is that many said, o no is nthing is not so hard being a free to play player can breack it, yes by entering and collecting stuff and do nothing, a game that can not be play because there is no way to progress
It’s funny I agree 100%with all of your points, it’s the same reasons I quit azure lane and fateGO. It’s weird how all of these games have the same issues ;-; and Yea the azure lane banner thing is just as toxic you legit can’t do some chapters with out speaific ships/subs and only reason I put up with Nikki character stop was the art but that only sustained me for so long before I gave up laster longer on NIKKE then I did on azure is cuz it wasn’t AS bad but it’s still bad
Yes i understand, for me the gameplay, the music and the character cna only sustain for so long, even the story i find good, but only so long before said these is not even a game
The irony to this is that the first ad I saw on here was for Nikke. 😅
"Advertisement was good". Now i play this game and i cannot defend the ads lmao
I agree with you and feel you. But, I still maintain and play these games: Azur Lane, Nikke, and Toram Online. The Digimon series by Bandai Namco is the worst gotcha so far in my list for the pulls of course. Yes, I am currently still stuck at Level 160. So far, most SSR I got from the purple Gems, not mainly from the pulls or the Gold gems; yes insanely 'random'.
No wonder why my friend's just quit the game w/out somethin to say about it 🤣
Oh, shit, your playing EVERSOUL too?? I am too. I haven't spent anything on that game and it feels pretty generous.
Aaagh i didn't jump into the game earlier because my last device couldn't support the game, now that i have a chance the realization of repeating the old loathsome rerolling considering that RNG hasn't been kind early this year is...
What a shame, heard good things about the story and my favorite artcore composer made the tracks of this game.
Kinda upsetting.
The progression is so slow and the 160 wall is basically unbreakable for f2ps and very hard for even medium spenders
Awesome girls and awesome skins. If only you could get them.
I droped it during the christmas event. If they couldn't deliver during christmas, then they never will.
Awesome, game, awesome music, awesome girls, awesome gameplay, awesome story, but so horrible resource give, and so P2W is just absurd
Nikke was straight up my biggest disappointment of 2022. I was completely ready for full whale investment and it keeps me up at night how much of a missed opportunity it was.
With the amount of effort that went into the (uncensored) character designs, animations, and honestly top level voice acting, seeing it brought down so low due to the absolute stingiest business model I have personally seen in any Gacha game, feels proper shitty. Doubly so since I've been a long time player of Shift Up's previous IP: Destiny Child.
There's rumours floating around that a large portion of the poor business decisions were made by Tencent/Level Infinite, and to be honest, I do believe them albeit with a grain of salt.
Not just that, it's INTENTIONAL.
They purposefully made the game inhumanely predatory bad on the cash shop and NOT FIXING BUGS because Tencent said "it helps marketing".
When Chinese players gave it 2/10 on Bilibili, people who are accustomed to Tencent predatory games said that, its BAD. It just disappoints me that people knew that and still whaling this game. Not a mistaken $10 purchase or $60, but straight up thousands of bucks. Those people does not deserve to held that much money.
Mi me too, i really love it, i waited and waited, as soon as i see when the trailer, i water and love it, and when it come yes it was buggy, second mobile i see with bugs, yes it crash and that, but i was having fun the gameplay and then i notice the power creep, i put and put and didint get SSR, and the daily task where really long, and really boring and then i investigate, finding that the original trailers and then they censor, the really low pulls, and when you realize an iddle game that you can not farm, or grind, it was really bad, it was a hughe disapointment, that and highan Eruthel were mi two disapointments
@@defaulted9485 Yes i suffer mi second great disapointment and regret of bilibili with Highan eruthell, these chinese games, great majority are cash grabs
I played Nikke since D1 and i quitted a few day ago cause after all play it is boring i just enjoyed say my fav nikke and progress a bit on story mode but after all it's all the same tryhard game, the finale "hit" was a bug that get me very mad that made me unstall it
a massive disaster is there no place to farm like credit and exp to level up the units.
That is mi main complain first gatcha, and even iddle game, i see there is no where to farm credits or exp, first one, that is the most basic thing, that allow a gatcha to have free to play players, how in the f are you going to make that basic mistakes and yet people applaud
well, this aged like milk
even the best thing to ever happened to the game itself is a belorussiya/ new jersey carbon copy that is helm 💀
ngl tho i liked her design so much
I play for a month since open and then, the moment i quit was when everithing, i was in world 10 and i wanted to push a 110 level character and i literaly use the 100% outpost thing, i put 2 levels, 2 levels with everithing
I really could never take this game seriously, they literally put big asses giggling in the screen while you play, like bruh...
count the number of times he says sucks
Lol and then an NIKKE ad comes up
Oof tnx for telling I didn't know it's have poor pulling system I just started 2days ago so I still didn't know about the banner system here and yea I'm still at stage 2 or map 2 and I'm already strageling in my fight
And also AL namba wan
I gave up on competitive thinking once i knew there was an exclusive cbt border, giving exclusive things for events way before launch is stupid.
Korea is great at making games targeted at whales, and whales don't care about a lot your problems are. These players who spend significantly more money on games than the average user-account for the majority of gacha revenue. Being at the top of the arena, or tower, or something like that is why they spend $$$$ to obtain and max out characters. if you remove the rankings and leaderboards I imagine it would hurt nikke more than if you removed the (rather tame) fanservice or the story or whatever. Whales love the bragging rights that come with rankings in games. Just look at clash of clans.
complaining about 4% rates and 200 pull pity. Ya'll are spoiled.. Try FGO, 1% with 330 pull pity (which was only added very recently)
Does FGO stop your story progress though?
Does FGO, have no way to grind resources, or way to progress
I agreed all the fact you say it so much pain to play NIkke ~
Guess I'm gonna try Azure Lane, cause the gem scarcity in Nikke is atrocious for FTP. 30 days at the 160 wall, I'm done////
One thing I will say is your complaint with Special interception.Its end game..Its not meant to be easy to get through..EVERY gacha if you dont have the right top teir units for end game content your not getting through it. I have moderian three, scarlet, Emma 5, Liter, and centi teams and even I can only get to stage 2 on the train, and modenia Interception bosses
The only gacha I'm playing are Azur Lane and Neural Cloud, tried Path to Nowhere for a while but it's too time consuming and not that fun, Nikke and other gacha haven't really appealed to me and balancing AL and NC is perfect for me rn
Path has a good art design and story. But yeah, the game isn’t fun.
@@nelzelpher7158TN's downside is.....u can't chage the direction of your sinner after u place them in the specific tile in which Arknights does
I play neural cloud nice game and manage to get many characters, but after a while there is nothing to do, i win all the story available but then nothing, i get the characters i want but that was it, after a while nothing more and the last stages are so hard is no go, for now the only gatcha i am is Aether gazer, and that is it i mean i win Blue archive and finish all stuff to do so nothing to do, so only gatchas i am enjoying are those two, i tried eversoul but requires so much resources is not even fun
@@Krysnha Yeah, I get that. Now in neural cloud I just log on to do dailies and do the events which is fine for me since I dont have a lot of time to play gacha anymore. Dropped azur lane for that reason, takes too much time for me to do dailies and grind out levels.
I will be forever grateful to myself that i dropped this game just after 3 hours into it.
I endure a month first time second time two months ago not even a week
just my two cents, you have to treat the game not even as a side game but as a "I-have-to-kill-some-time-today" game. once you have the mindset of just doing dailies to stockpile resources and mats, you'll be contented with how fast (or slow) you can clear campaign.
but I get you, as a competitive player and/or content creator the sluggish progression, resource drought, and no pity (especially with dupe-reliant characters) must be a constant pain.
The problem with Nikke is that, ok with that mentality ok there are peoeple threating like that, but, come on, a game that arrive a point nothing ot play, and worst basic stuff of idle like resource grind, becaus ewhy play if not even a small progress or not give sensation of that, only thing nikke need is that resrouces grind
Azur lane will always be my main game. I switched out Nikke for Neural cloud. Game feels better optimized and smoother and I enjoy playing it more.
Neural cloud is a good game, but once you finish there is not a lot to do, i mean i play since day one to neural cloud and when i finish i quit i return more or less two months ago and havent add more story, or anything else, is a nice game but once finish there is no more to do
Yeah...I was rank 9 in the arena (30 seconds before the reset) and still got only 900 gems...
Really...Not in the first 10% with rank ~9-15???
What is going on???
I do have remorse for Eversoul. I am getting the same block as Nikke. Buy yea...time is always just gonna be the deciding factor in these idle games.
Mi, i loved everosul but yes even when you can progress a lot, eventualy even with whales characters you get stuck, is a pity, i decide to uninstall a long time ago
I've pulled 916 pulls only have 1 3 star SSR. Because I bought her last body in the shop. The rates are garbage. And the longer the game is out. The less chance you have of doubles because they added new characters to pull. Which dilutes the pool over time as well
Quit bcz
1) had 110 pulls without SSR on Viper banner;
2) ridiculously long daily activities;
3) no content or anything interesting to do besides dailies (like i couldnt progress campaign etc)
I literally quit the game after 2 weeks LMAO. My pulls were also good. I dunno why would you play this game at all lol.
Bro if you don't play can you give me your acc pls, i lost mine because i couldn't login with twitter and I've been rerolling since Friday and didn't get anything.