@ Gayle is an absentee owner/widowed trophy wife that has done the bare minimum for this franchise so she can make money hand over fist. And she’s done a fantastic job from a business standpoint. But it has been diametrically opposed to winning anything other than regular season games. To some degree I don’t blame her. She doesn’t know basketball. It was a pet project Tom bought her to play around with. When will the protest outside the arena start?? Sell. The. Team. #ToddGraves
Need a coach like Ime Udoka. Tough minded & a defensive mentality that will hold players accountable at the same time push them to be great. Need a GM who will be good at acquiring talent and hiring good scouting team that can find diamonds in the rough. Just a total rebuild
And if that’s the case, it’s not contributing to wins. And yes injuries contribute to losses. But coaching, scouting, system, chemistry and culture plays a huge role in the overall success of the team. IMO this team, including the front office needs changing. Yes they have some players to build around but it’s obviously not working to betterment of the team. And again I understand the injuries. But this team shouldn’t be this bad. And that starts with coaching and the front office who makes decisions in staffing the team with players that fit and a system that’s going to steer the team in the right direction.
Zion broke this organization’s spirit. If the guy you notate as franchise guy doesn’t take things seriously for 6 straight years, with no consequences, other players start to lose respect for the entire organization
They're problem started 6 years ago. They're trying to build around a ghost. That ghost is holding this team back. Cut your losses and move on. Build around players who loves the game of basketball.
I think this hits the nail on the head and is exactly what I have been thinking. Other teams can have injuries and still fight for wins. Pels seem like they have no fight and need a big culture and system change
I thought Borrego was hired to shake up the offense and get people sharing the ball more...is Willie not listening to this guy? Is there some sort of rift on this coaching staff? The players look like they've just turned Willie out...no motivation at all. This is Griff's 3rd HC hire that has failed. I don't think the FO we currently have knows how to fix this regardless of whether they get a top 5 draft choice (or not). Griiff just keeps throwing stuff against the wall hoping that it sticks. He's lost.
How is this Willy fault…. Name me 1 team that wouldn’t be in the lottery with this many injuries no matter who the coach are….we are playing without are 2 best players and role players
@ he can't draw up a play to save his got damn life. That's why we lost so many close games last year and gave up so many leads bc he can't adjust on the fly. He never ever gets in a refs ass on a bad call. Never calls a timeout at the proper time. We got a lot of guys back and we are still not even competitive. His rotations/min allocation have always sucked . If you think Willie Green is a good X and O's coach you don't know basketball, he's a players coach and that don't get it done in the Diva era of basketball .
@ no one is all good or all bad, my biggest thing is Willie needs to go. If BI had accepted the deal to send him to Utah I don’t think we’d all be so mad at Griffin, but at some point it’s just too far gone and you have to shake it all up. I hope Ms Gayle does for the Pels what she did for the saints this year
Everyone needs to stop with the more 3 point shots.. Take the best shot.. The high percentage shots...Open 3s are good shots but don't pass up layups for 3s.. We got to get up more 3s is the craziest thing I ever heard.. trying to put up 40 3s
I think they would shoot just fine with a real offense and if they could play off a superstar. This iso heavy, your turn, my turn offense doesnt allow them to be the pure shooters they are
I’ve been saying for over a year- Willie needs to GO. I thought hiring Borrego would help him, but it doesn’t seem like anything has changed. We have had the same problems for YEARS. He is in over his head, he has never improved. And the players look tired of playing for him. He’d be a great college coach, he’s a horrific NBA coach. The Magic example is a fantastic one. Look at what the Rockets did once they replaced Silas w Udoka. Fire Willie ASAP. Griffin needs to get a positive return for BI and CJ, and if he doesn’t fire him. Jk, jk, and Gayle needs to fire him too. Ive been wanting us to hire Chris Quinn from Miami for so long, and we still should, hopefully a new team president sees that, too. So glad i watched the Rockets-Thunder last night so I could be reminded of what real professional playoff-caliber basketball looks like- smart, disciplined play w 48’ of maximum effort. FIRE. WILLIE.
Yep. Team is bad and need to be better. Happy those 3 players are virtually untouchable - they're who I would build around Team needs to stop doing the same thing and expecting different results - time to trade big pieces. Need to break up the 'big 3' of CJ, Zion and Bi - two have to go, and one has to be CJ just based on age.
We need to get rid of the coaching staff that is the biggest problem we have. How do you have all this talent but don’t even win a game. That is horrible they really need better coaching
Just say it....The Pelicans are in tank mode. We need a coach like rizzi on the pels. Someone that holds players accountable ...Willie Green is not that. That's why I know I could be a better GM then griff...because I would of fired his arse 2 years ago
TANKING SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. WHEN PELICANS FANS SPEND THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO WATCH AT LEAST THEIR TEAM TRY TO WIN. TO PURPOSELY LOSE TO GET A DRAFT PICK IS SAD. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL PELICANS FANS YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN YOUR TEAM BETRAYING YOU
May they just continue to stink up the joint for the remainder of the season, no need to make any changes now. but when the season's over the ENTIRE front office, coaching staff ALL got to get the **** up out of here. Cuz at the rate they're losing fans and at the rate they're going to continue to lose money it's still not going to wake up this owner unfortunately
Average coaches only last 3-5 years. WG will probably be let go in the offseason. We will make some trades at the deadline to get under the tax and fix our salaries for next season. This needs to turn into a development year and what’s sad is we keep DNP Karlo and Reeves. Both these guys should be playing to just get min even if they lose their min big. Theis should be benched until he is traded CJ min should just be reduced until he is traded. Cain and Jemison should not play either. Both are 2-way guys and just not going to be long term players.
First thing is that we still have 55 games left! So we cannot push to when 35 of them? The season is not over! After the all star break teams go up and down! Nobody wants to hear about tanking!
Apart from the radical fanbases clamoring for Willie Green being fired with every Pelicans' loss (which now maybe even correct considering the results) I think this boils down two 1 simple reason: Health. I know currently they have quite a few guys back, but I don't expect them to win much without BI or Zion. These are simply the most important players on the roster (excluding Herb) and their scoring and offense relies on them.
Let it burn. I like Willie as a human being, but it's time for everything to burn. The way we lose, I'm surprised Adam Silver isn't calling Gayle to sell the team. I think we need new ownership as well. At least get Gayle to replace everyone from the president on down. Losses happen, but it's how you lose. We aren't fighting back! Dejounte, Trey, Herb are playing with 50 percent energy. This season is over!
Trey Murphy aint the shooter yall think he is he chocks at crunch time. Hawkins aint the shooter yall think he is he is too soft . Boston shows more dog in him than both of them put together. The fans need to show their disappointment more that means booing bad plays more booing should bring about some kind of change dont keep excepting what you are getting for your money
Mr. Erry Dat'rr👈🏾Thanks Jake!! Yep, i called this about 3wks or so. shut it down and lets get ready for the draft. still a pretty long season ahead. my prediction is BI, CJ & Z will all be traded. jus hope none go to the flakers
WG really regressed from his 1st yr last yr imo is one of the most talented roster pels had but they still underachieved, its so obvious players dont want to play for him.
Got rid of the only identity we had .our defense, our bench. Griff has to go...BI has to go...Zion has to go...CJ has to go...Willie.has to go... This host has to go..Start over..rebuild... Thought i would never say this in december..but cant wait for baseball..
Griff, Willie, Zion, BI, and CJ need to go. Zion has been on the team for 6 years and hasn't developed any other shot than what he came from Duke with. You're supposed to add to your game if you're serious about your craft. You mean to tell me no one in this organization can't see his attitude? They need to go.
Hans Solo flew The M Falcon. Great pilot who could fly any ship. I DONT CARE HOW GREAT The Pelicans "Ship full of Players is", Willie Green is NO PILOT and can't fly the ship. WE NEED A NEW PILOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . (period)
Trey Murphy and Hawkins have both regressed as shooters...fire Willie Green ...find us a good coach ...is that touch to ask....and stop giving Zion free donuts
Beginning of the season you were talking bout this small ball mess would work for the pels.. now it's the problems started last season.. no the problem started years ago with the willie hiring and before that the griff hiring.. that starting lineup loses out because of lack of coaching.. lack of actual basketball iq on the team.. the turnovers are because they put the ball in the hands of people that are not playmaker or creators for noone but themselves.. People and media need to stop being yes men to the pels.. yall hype up individual players play over building the team up
Pels should be this bad and possibly worst. We need to keep being horrible so finally some radical change will be done.
Griff ain’t going to fire himself. And Gayle ain’t going to suddenly become a competent owner. She needs to sell the team.
That would start with ownership
@ Gayle is an absentee owner/widowed trophy wife that has done the bare minimum for this franchise so she can make money hand over fist. And she’s done a fantastic job from a business standpoint. But it has been diametrically opposed to winning anything other than regular season games. To some degree I don’t blame her. She doesn’t know basketball. It was a pet project Tom bought her to play around with.
When will the protest outside the arena start?? Sell. The. Team. #ToddGraves
The worst thing that can happen at this point is they start winning. They should shed some dead weight and get a good draft pick
Need a coach like Ime Udoka. Tough minded & a defensive mentality that will hold players accountable at the same time push them to be great. Need a GM who will be good at acquiring talent and hiring good scouting team that can find diamonds in the rough. Just a total rebuild
we have had a good scouting team, Jose, Naji, Herb, Yves Missi, J Hawk at the end of the lottery
We literally have a good GM who can scout & a good scout team
And if that’s the case, it’s not contributing to wins. And yes injuries contribute to losses. But coaching, scouting, system, chemistry and culture plays a huge role in the overall success of the team. IMO this team, including the front office needs changing. Yes they have some players to build around but it’s obviously not working to betterment of the team. And again I understand the injuries. But this team shouldn’t be this bad. And that starts with coaching and the front office who makes decisions in staffing the team with players that fit and a system that’s going to steer the team in the right direction.
Zion broke this organization’s spirit. If the guy you notate as franchise guy doesn’t take things seriously for 6 straight years, with no consequences, other players start to lose respect for the entire organization
They're problem started 6 years ago. They're trying to build around a ghost. That ghost is holding this team back. Cut your losses and move on. Build around players who loves the game of basketball.
You right, please set Zion free!
Correct. Nobody can build on a bad foundation.
This is just sad man
I think this hits the nail on the head and is exactly what I have been thinking. Other teams can have injuries and still fight for wins. Pels seem like they have no fight and need a big culture and system change
Exactly
I thought Borrego was hired to shake up the offense and get people sharing the ball more...is Willie not listening to this guy? Is there some sort of rift on this coaching staff? The players look like they've just turned Willie out...no motivation at all. This is Griff's 3rd HC hire that has failed. I don't think the FO we currently have knows how to fix this regardless of whether they get a top 5 draft choice (or not). Griiff just keeps throwing stuff against the wall hoping that it sticks. He's lost.
Stop hiring good humans ..hire good coaches ....fans don't care what church he goes to. Only concerned with his ability to lead men
I 100% agree.. and NOBODY pulls harder for Coach Green than I do!!💯
💯 💯 💯
How is this Willy fault…. Name me 1 team that wouldn’t be in the lottery with this many injuries no matter who the coach are….we are playing without are 2 best players and role players
@ he can't draw up a play to save his got damn life. That's why we lost so many close games last year and gave up so many leads bc he can't adjust on the fly. He never ever gets in a refs ass on a bad call. Never calls a timeout at the proper time. We got a lot of guys back and we are still not even competitive. His rotations/min allocation have always sucked . If you think Willie Green is a good X and O's coach you don't know basketball, he's a players coach and that don't get it done in the Diva era of basketball .
@suprememedia826 because Willie can't adjust on the fly and also he fails to motivate his players. All that crap on TV is fake Willie Green is dumb af
It's time for a new regime
Make changes or move the damn team….
Thanks for calling out this mess.. it all starts with Griffin.
W. Green maybe a good player's coach but we need a better one. Tough, gritty, angry!
We need a coach that can draw up a damn play. This ISO bs don't fly.
Should, woulda, coulda team. The season is toast.
Jake it's not bad it's worse Willie Green has to go
There were never any moral victories
Everyone wanted to change the team from last year and all we needed was a point guard and to keep JV we won 49 games and lost some close games!
The problem go back to 2019 when griff was hired
Hire Lebrons Former GM to get him AD that didn't bother anyone lol
Whoever does our drafting has to stay in that role. Everyone/anyone else? Gtfoh
Griffin was the one who hired the one who does the drafting
@ no one is all good or all bad, my biggest thing is Willie needs to go. If BI had accepted the deal to send him to Utah I don’t think we’d all be so mad at Griffin, but at some point it’s just too far gone and you have to shake it all up. I hope Ms Gayle does for the Pels what she did for the saints this year
I don't see why? Willie Green is a terrible coach and it's magnified by his record in the clutch!!
We need an identity!!
The 3's are worth more than 2's era must end because teams and players don't value possessions properly until the end of the game.
This is a David Griffin problem. He has to go.
Zion and Brandon Glass company.
Bottom line Willie green has to go
Everyone needs to stop with the more 3 point shots.. Take the best shot.. The high percentage shots...Open 3s are good shots but don't pass up layups for 3s.. We got to get up more 3s is the craziest thing I ever heard.. trying to put up 40 3s
Replace Willie Green while there's still a chance for rest of this season
Naw bruh there ain't a chance in hell on saving this season don't matter what happens. They are fkin toast .
Trey Murphy and Jordan Hawkins have regressed as shooters...fire Willie Green
I think they would shoot just fine with a real offense and if they could play off a superstar. This iso heavy, your turn, my turn offense doesnt allow them to be the pure shooters they are
I’ve been saying for over a year- Willie needs to GO. I thought hiring Borrego would help him, but it doesn’t seem like anything has changed. We have had the same problems for YEARS. He is in over his head, he has never improved. And the players look tired of playing for him. He’d be a great college coach, he’s a horrific NBA coach. The Magic example is a fantastic one. Look at what the Rockets did once they replaced Silas w Udoka.
Fire Willie ASAP. Griffin needs to get a positive return for BI and CJ, and if he doesn’t fire him. Jk, jk, and Gayle needs to fire him too. Ive been wanting us to hire Chris Quinn from Miami for so long, and we still should, hopefully a new team president sees that, too.
So glad i watched the Rockets-Thunder last night so I could be reminded of what real professional playoff-caliber basketball looks like- smart, disciplined play w 48’ of maximum effort.
FIRE. WILLIE.
Yep. Team is bad and need to be better.
Happy those 3 players are virtually untouchable - they're who I would build around
Team needs to stop doing the same thing and expecting different results - time to trade big pieces. Need to break up the 'big 3' of CJ, Zion and Bi - two have to go, and one has to be CJ just based on age.
Willie Green 🍏 has to go ✈️😮👈
It's time for the Pels to host a "Garage Sale.".. Clear out the old and bring in new, fresh talent.
We need to get rid of the coaching staff that is the biggest problem we have. How do you have all this talent but don’t even win a game. That is horrible they really need better coaching
Just say it....The Pelicans are in tank mode. We need a coach like rizzi on the pels. Someone that holds players accountable ...Willie Green is not that. That's why I know I could be a better GM then griff...because I would of fired his arse 2 years ago
TANKING SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. WHEN PELICANS FANS SPEND THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY TO WATCH AT LEAST THEIR TEAM TRY TO WIN. TO PURPOSELY LOSE TO GET A DRAFT PICK IS SAD. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL PELICANS FANS YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN YOUR TEAM BETRAYING YOU
Pels, Saints, even LSU. I'm not used to this.
Trade Zion for a stick of gum!
Maybe try Juwan Howard? 🏀🇬🇧
Last season? It’s been the same issues for Willie’s entire tenure. He was never and X and O guy. He was a players coach. Well, now he’s not even that.
May they just continue to stink up the joint for the remainder
of the season, no need to make any changes now.
but when the season's over the ENTIRE front office, coaching staff
ALL got to get the **** up
out of here.
Cuz at the rate they're losing fans and at the rate they're going to continue to lose money it's still not going to wake up this owner unfortunately
Gotta get Griff out the building first
Average coaches only last 3-5 years. WG will probably be let go in the offseason. We will make some trades at the deadline to get under the tax and fix our salaries for next season. This needs to turn into a development year and what’s sad is we keep DNP Karlo and Reeves. Both these guys should be playing to just get min even if they lose their min big. Theis should be benched until he is traded CJ min should just be reduced until he is traded. Cain and Jemison should not play either. Both are 2-way guys and just not going to be long term players.
What happened to the point 5 offense?
Every-Dayer
He's too laid back for a young team, imo.
Mane, Murray was playing like please oh please put me on the trading block. Get me out of here.
First thing is that we still have 55 games left! So we cannot push to when 35 of them? The season is not over! After the all star break teams go up and down! Nobody wants to hear about tanking!
Every dayer!! 🇵🇭🇵🇭
Apart from the radical fanbases clamoring for Willie Green being fired with every Pelicans' loss (which now maybe even correct considering the results) I think this boils down two 1 simple reason: Health. I know currently they have quite a few guys back, but I don't expect them to win much without BI or Zion. These are simply the most important players on the roster (excluding Herb) and their scoring and offense relies on them.
Let it burn. I like Willie as a human being, but it's time for everything to burn. The way we lose, I'm surprised Adam Silver isn't calling Gayle to sell the team. I think we need new ownership as well. At least get Gayle to replace everyone from the president on down. Losses happen, but it's how you lose. We aren't fighting back! Dejounte, Trey, Herb are playing with 50 percent energy. This season is over!
Trey Murphy aint the shooter yall think he is he chocks at crunch time. Hawkins aint the shooter yall think he is he is too soft . Boston shows more dog in him than both of them put together. The fans need to show their disappointment more that means booing bad plays more booing should bring about some kind of change dont keep excepting what you are getting for your money
The pelicans need to practice shooting because they suck...they miss so many critical shots
Do we lead the league in turnovers?
55 games left and we cannot push to win 35 stop with the tanking!
Mr. Erry Dat'rr👈🏾Thanks Jake!! Yep, i called this about 3wks or so. shut it down and lets get ready for the draft. still a pretty long season ahead. my prediction is BI, CJ & Z will all be traded. jus hope none go to the flakers
WG really regressed from his 1st yr last yr imo is one of the most talented roster pels had but they still underachieved, its so obvious players dont want to play for him.
Got rid of the only identity we had .our defense, our bench. Griff has to go...BI has to go...Zion has to go...CJ has to go...Willie.has to go...
This host has to go..Start over..rebuild...
Thought i would never say this in december..but cant wait for baseball..
P.R.E.A.C.H.
IT’S ALL FUCKING TRASH!
SO EMBARRASSING! 🙈
Griff, Willie, Zion, BI, and CJ need to go. Zion has been on the team for 6 years and hasn't developed any other shot than what he came from Duke with. You're supposed to add to your game if you're serious about your craft. You mean to tell me no one in this organization can't see his attitude? They need to go.
Time 2 hold David G accountable he put AAALLLL of this together!! Were u at Ms.B?
Why is it that Trey doesn't look as good as he has in the past?
He never looked good. Never could hit the wide open shots at crunch time to much pressure
Be real about willie circumstances. You could argue hes never had a fair healthy chance
Pelicans bout to move to Seattle in a few years
Hans Solo flew The M Falcon. Great pilot who could fly any ship. I DONT CARE HOW GREAT The Pelicans "Ship full of Players is", Willie Green is NO PILOT and can't fly the ship. WE NEED A NEW PILOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . (period)
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TEAR it all down!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRADES COMING!!!!!!!!!!!! TANK CITY BABY!!! Sagg for thje FLAGG...ACE is the PLACE!!!!
Nah Sharper for Harper lol
Sounds like a coaching issue!!!! Hire a coach.
Trey Murphy and Hawkins have both regressed as shooters...fire Willie Green ...find us a good coach ...is that touch to ask....and stop giving Zion free donuts
I personally love coach green 💚. But I love New Orleans. He did not draft the problem. I believe we need to do something
Beginning of the season you were talking bout this small ball mess would work for the pels.. now it's the problems started last season.. no the problem started years ago with the willie hiring and before that the griff hiring.. that starting lineup loses out because of lack of coaching.. lack of actual basketball iq on the team.. the turnovers are because they put the ball in the hands of people that are not playmaker or creators for noone but themselves..
People and media need to stop being yes men to the pels.. yall hype up individual players play over building the team up
Hi Jake , Willie gotta go
this dude don’t be saying anything at all
Willie’s sucks