@@Rodimus_limewhy would punk feud with roman so early when he has plans with Gunther for world championship and seth at WrestleMania. Punk turning on roman will make WWE change many story
I was hoping shinsuke won, the fall off from winning 2018 rumble is insane, but it really showed us his potential. He deserves this, one last chance at making it big again.
Wwe is cooking with these triple threat matches first Oba Femi vs Josh Briggs vs Dijak at Nxt Stand and Deliver, La Knight vs Melo Hayes vs Andrade and now Bron Breakker vs Sheamus vs Ludwig Kaiser wow
That's what I was just gonna say... They might as well put the WarGames match in a separate PLE and call it "WWE WarGames", and just leave Survivor Series as it is.
Nah, they should do traditional elimination tags most years , then when there is a really intense rivalry, then they do war games. War games every year is stupid
I get it why you want a WarGames Elimination match but it just doesn't work. In Traditional Survivor Series when two wrestlers are in the ring there is a one fall rule with DQ and Rope Break. Amid chaos in the WarGames, you're only going to get a pinfall or submission when its decisive and its climax. Otherwise, every time every one is gonna save their teammate from pinfall or submission.
WarGames should be treated as a premium match stipulation, akin to Hell in a Cell, rather than a gimmicky pay-per-view attraction. Its usage should be reserved for feuds that necessitate an all-out, brutal confrontation, allowing the match to serve as a climactic and decisive blow. Unlike Money in the Bank, Elimination Chamber, or Royal Rumble, WarGames doesn't offer a tangible prize or championship opportunity. Its value lies in its ability to intensify rivalries, provide a platform for intense storytelling, and deliver a unique, thrilling experience for fans. By not making WarGames an annual pay-per-view stipulation, WWE can preserve its specialness, allowing it to retain its emotional impact and significance. This approach will also enable creative teams to deploy WarGames strategically, maximizing its narrative potential and keeping fans engaged. Ultimately, WarGames should be a match that speaks to the intensity and desperation of a rivalry, rather than a predictable, calendar-driven event. By adopting a more thoughtful, selective approach to WarGames, WWE can elevate this distinctive match stipulation and create unforgettable moments for fans.
But doesn't it just kind of deflate the purpose of a war games match if we have to have two arbitrary war games every single year? Isn't this what everybody complained about with Hell in a Cell?
Here's a possible angle WWE can go with Punk and Heyman So it's Royal Rumble and last 2 remaining are Roman and Punk. Then Heyman helps Punk win the rumble and it sets up a Roman vs Punk match at Elimination Chamber where Rock returns and cost Roman the match and Heyman sides with The Rock and we eventually get Rock vs Roman Night 2 While CM Punk challenge Seth Rollins for the World Heavyweight Championship Night 1 main event.
i think maybe the favor is to back him up with drew coming back with probally his own faction or teaming up with the new bloodline, cause i just don't seeing reign gonna having a title reign in the near future to give punk a title shot or something.
This was my first ever war games and I thought it was stupid that they dropped the company vs company thing but it ended up being pretty great actually I loved it I was just waiting for the rock to show up at the end but I got my hopes up
Shinsuke needed it more, he's one of my favorites, so happy to see him taking Ws again. LA Knight will win it back down the road, they have an opportunity for a great rivalry.
I knew shinsuke would win just based on how many L’s he’s received and the fact they changed his theme. I just wish the crowd was more appreciative because even though he won it from LA Knight it doesn’t make it less deserving.
I think the favor could be Paul Heyman pulling strings to make CM Punk be the last entrant in the Rumble to make it easier for punk to main event wrestlemania?
Great PLE. The triple threat was definitely match of the night but the Men’s war games had the best story. I loved Damian and Gunther’s match even though the interference from Finn kind of soured it for me. Even if they’re teasing a triple threat or another run back in the near future, I feel Gunther should’ve won clean here. The Women’s War Games match was pretty great as well & I’m happy for Shinsuke. 8/10.
hot take, I think the bloodline match would have been better as a traditional 5v5 tag match so that they can each get eliminated. wargames biggest flaw is how much it slows down when trying to aim the camera to everyone fighting only towards the end it gets intense
The OGs winning was a right call per say, cause now that Roman has proved he and his crew won, he deserves the next and possibly final challenge to Solo which is Tribal Combat match for the Ula Fala. Roman's ego will definitely want to have it back and go back to being on the top, and it's on that match that Rock will side with Solo, and/OR, Solo gets kicked out.
War Games being elimination match as well would be too long. This would ruin the whole 3 minute advantage sequence. But I really want an ending with One Person thrown out of the cage, one match in the men and women will surely be less interesting and you could use that as a finish for that match.
Well TheGreatOne, there is a match type that has both elimination format with the violence of cage, it's called Elimination Chamber. I agree with you that the format of 5v5 elimination is far more exciting. This feels a bit dull till all members of both teams enter the cage. Also, WWE doesn't allow the gore and blood needed to elevate this type of match. WarGames needs a good story and big spots to work on the other hand one could be entertained by the work-rate of the traditional elimination match without even knowing the story.
I miss the old 5v5 elimination survivor series.. we've had some amazing moments like ziggler taking down 4 people if I remember right as the last man on his team
I kind of disagree with what you said about women's match, I don't know why. I loved the female war games so much. It was incredible, when I saw the money in the bank briefcase in the match I was going nuts.
I wanted Solo to kick out of 3 or 4 finishers, that would have made him actually a cool ass leader. Someone who can be resilient but well… it was a really good match
At last year's Survivor Series, we saw the return of Randy Orton and CM Punk. Who would have thought one year later, CM Punk would participate in a War Games match.
the thing with shinsuke winning is you can't really be a champion and cut video promo's you have to go out to the ring have apollo crews come out and demand a title match that's how your supposed to book a champion.
One thing i noticed. Everyone hugged paul heyman other than roman who patted him on back of the head! He knows somethings up either that or hes gonna turn on paul heyman and turn heel and kick out the wiseman and punk comes makes the save setting up a future match between them! Punk face and roman back as heel
Maybe Punk will ask Paul to make him entrant no. 30 on the rumble, I know that doesn't make sense but hey, it's Paul Heyman he can make anything happen
The US title change was a good choice imo. Shinske desperately needed something to do and credibility and taking that title off LA Knight was it. Plus this gives an opportunity to add layers to Knights character arc too. Also, imagine rolling Carmelo and Andrade into the fold too
On smackdown, I would like to see a pissed off solo sikoa take out his frustration on tanga loa, kicking him out of the faction and bring zilla Fatu as his replacement
I’m predicting that the favor will be that Punk wants a match against the rock because of all of their history to finally take revenge at Wrestlemania. I think this is a pretty good theory, I don’t know if a lot of people tought of this… probably
Punk saving Roman from the big splash through the table and acknowledging each other at the end was very cool moments
**Tsunami
Shinsuke Nakamura the Samurai is gonna be generational comeback man. US CHAMP BABY
NAKAMURA ⚔️
The Sith Lord Darth Shin
I'm happy Shinsuke won his match. If he didn't, he would've been wasted potential.
Honestly
LA was better without a belt around his waist. He should feud with Shinsuke and move upto another title.
It could’ve been a DQ
shinsuke turned into a dark souls boss and won the belt
i’m happy
i was genuinely shocked when he won i thought they broght him back to lose again
CM Punk: Can I turn Heel on Roman, Paul?
Paul Heyman: Not yet
i wonder when he would turn heel
@@Rodimus_limewhy would punk feud with roman so early when he has plans with Gunther for world championship and seth at WrestleMania. Punk turning on roman will make WWE change many story
LA Knight will be just fine. Shinsuke NEEDED this.
Exactly
Agreed
Shinsuke deserve that!! I supported him that time!
I was hoping shinsuke won, the fall off from winning 2018 rumble is insane, but it really showed us his potential. He deserves this, one last chance at making it big again.
agreed
Additing elimination to this match type would make it my fave match type ever.
So elimination chamber?
then it just becomes an elimination chamber w a second ring
@@showtime1235no because it is still 2 teams
@@showtime1235so is war games just a hell in a cell match?
@@omari3107 if he’ll in a cell had 2 cages and 2 teams and they entered in different orders? seems pretty different
The Otis promo was the best
That was an actual ad
Good. But an ad nonetheless
😂😂😂
Ayo 😂😂
@@M._mkidtranslate your comment! 😂
I hope Shinsuke holds that title until AJ comes back and they finally have the Wrestlemania match they deserve. Title vs. Career.
I miss aj styles already 😢
@ Me too :(
Maybe. Cool idea.
iyo doing a backflip with the trash can is something i can watch 100 times and always make me happy lmao
She did the same at nxt WARGAMES 2020
@M._mkid but it was a crossbody when she did it in 2020. This was something else
@@M._mkidand i can watch that spot 100 times as well lmao
there’s just something so goofy and cool about it that i love haha
1:17 heavily agree
Wwe is cooking with these triple threat matches first Oba Femi vs Josh Briggs vs Dijak at Nxt Stand and Deliver, La Knight vs Melo Hayes vs Andrade and now Bron Breakker vs Sheamus vs Ludwig Kaiser wow
Dijak's last match before his release 😢
Not a single person outside of the wrestling bubble has a clue who any of those people in any of those matches are.
@@freedomisslavery6840who gives a shit lmao
@@freedomisslavery6840…it’s a wrestling show?
@@freedomisslavery6840they may know about Sheamus only because he is more famous
WWE need to bring traditional survivor series matches back from next year
That's what I was just gonna say... They might as well put the WarGames match in a separate PLE and call it "WWE WarGames", and just leave Survivor Series as it is.
No
NO
Nah, they should do traditional elimination tags most years , then when there is a really intense rivalry, then they do war games. War games every year is stupid
5:55 Was so gooood
Imagine if at the end of that survivor series match we heard “Feed me more” and THE GOAT stepped out
And then the sound of crunchy Cheetos …
I get it why you want a WarGames Elimination match but it just doesn't work. In Traditional Survivor Series when two wrestlers are in the ring there is a one fall rule with DQ and Rope Break. Amid chaos in the WarGames, you're only going to get a pinfall or submission when its decisive and its climax. Otherwise, every time every one is gonna save their teammate from pinfall or submission.
WarGames should be treated as a premium match stipulation, akin to Hell in a Cell, rather than a gimmicky pay-per-view attraction. Its usage should be reserved for feuds that necessitate an all-out, brutal confrontation, allowing the match to serve as a climactic and decisive blow.
Unlike Money in the Bank, Elimination Chamber, or Royal Rumble, WarGames doesn't offer a tangible prize or championship opportunity. Its value lies in its ability to intensify rivalries, provide a platform for intense storytelling, and deliver a unique, thrilling experience for fans.
By not making WarGames an annual pay-per-view stipulation, WWE can preserve its specialness, allowing it to retain its emotional impact and significance. This approach will also enable creative teams to deploy WarGames strategically, maximizing its narrative potential and keeping fans engaged.
Ultimately, WarGames should be a match that speaks to the intensity and desperation of a rivalry, rather than a predictable, calendar-driven event. By adopting a more thoughtful, selective approach to WarGames, WWE can elevate this distinctive match stipulation and create unforgettable moments for fans.
Ai generate ahh comment
I think combining the concept of a traditional Survivor Series and WarGames will be a banger
But doesn't it just kind of deflate the purpose of a war games match if we have to have two arbitrary war games every single year? Isn't this what everybody complained about with Hell in a Cell?
I like how they all have diving boards at the top of the cage lol. Like u could rest and have a meal up top
Here's a possible angle WWE can go with Punk and Heyman
So it's Royal Rumble and last 2 remaining are Roman and Punk. Then Heyman helps Punk win the rumble and it sets up a Roman vs Punk match at Elimination Chamber where Rock returns and cost Roman the match and Heyman sides with The Rock and we eventually get Rock vs Roman Night 2
While CM Punk challenge Seth Rollins for the World Heavyweight Championship Night 1 main event.
fr the new shinsuke entrance yesterday was soooo good. i would love it if they keep this one instead of the one at smackdown
The Intercontinental Championship match was my highlight for the day. It was fire bro!!
Cool video as always G.O. 💯
It was OKAY premium live event tbh.
Best WWE UA-camr
i love it been a fan since Shinsuke debuted on the main roster
5:36 with the chill guy meme😂
1:17 absolutely agreed brother.
She did a moonsault with a trash can. That's more cool than anything what most wrestlers will ever do.
But she did exactly the same spot last year… 🤷♂️
CM Punk: Can I turn Heel on Roman, Triple H?
Triple H : Not yet😊
OG Bloodline never disappointed
i think maybe the favor is to back him up with drew coming back with probally his own faction or teaming up with the new bloodline, cause i just don't seeing reign gonna having a title reign in the near future to give punk a title shot or something.
This was my first ever war games and I thought it was stupid that they dropped the company vs company thing but it ended up being pretty great actually I loved it I was just waiting for the rock to show up at the end but I got my hopes up
Agree on eliminations
I’d love to see LA Knight make more appearances in the main event ramping up for a Royal Rumble win
Yes, Elimination style is quite more interesting
Quality video bro
Yeah adding the factor of traditional elimination in War games would work wonders,though this year war games ppv was a disappointment .
Bron Breakker reminded me of the fan that was thrown to Braun Strawman by Bronson Reed with that fly to Ludwig Kaiser 😂😂
I was waiting for the heel turn when they were all ganging up on solo at the end they definitely reeled us in on this one 🎣🎣
I absolutely love shin’s new theme it fits perfectly
Shinsuke in this character is awesome. He deserved this win. Now is the time for him to win the world title.
imagine if the men's wargames match was elimination
9:40 i thought u said "hopefully his spine" the first time hearing it, i was like, WHAT
Obviously this favor it’s gonna be 30 number on Royal Rumble and then main event
Love to see Shinsuke Nakamura with a title because he has on the same day of February his birth day as me on the 24th and that is a flex for me
4 minutes ago is crazy💀
Shinsuke needed it more, he's one of my favorites, so happy to see him taking Ws again. LA Knight will win it back down the road, they have an opportunity for a great rivalry.
what if we had svr in wargames with eliminations i think that would be cool both brand going at war
I knew shinsuke would win just based on how many L’s he’s received and the fact they changed his theme. I just wish the crowd was more appreciative because even though he won it from LA Knight it doesn’t make it less deserving.
Ur LA Knight was finally filling his potential and now people are worried he’ll get lost in the shuffle plus it was the worst match
On Smackdown, Nakamura's theme was a banger. But def rebel just couldn't help themselves, could they?
I think the favor could be Paul Heyman pulling strings to make CM Punk be the last entrant in the Rumble to make it easier for punk to main event wrestlemania?
I agree war games should definitely be elimination style
Ngl bro with that blue t shirt you got you look like minecarft steve, thats a compliment
Great PLE. The triple threat was definitely match of the night but the Men’s war games had the best story. I loved Damian and Gunther’s match even though the interference from Finn kind of soured it for me. Even if they’re teasing a triple threat or another run back in the near future, I feel Gunther should’ve won clean here. The Women’s War Games match was pretty great as well & I’m happy for Shinsuke. 8/10.
hot take, I think the bloodline match would have been better as a traditional 5v5 tag match so that they can each get eliminated. wargames biggest flaw is how much it slows down when trying to aim the camera to everyone fighting only towards the end it gets intense
The OGs winning was a right call per say, cause now that Roman has proved he and his crew won, he deserves the next and possibly final challenge to Solo which is Tribal Combat match for the Ula Fala. Roman's ego will definitely want to have it back and go back to being on the top, and it's on that match that Rock will side with Solo, and/OR, Solo gets kicked out.
Goat SHINSUKE on a ROLL
I loved that Shinsuke won the match and US Title
TheGreatOne looking like a young Steve
Flag Guy Shirt guy was there 🎉🥳🤣 front row.he was on the hard camera right hand side ❤️
That Shinsuke winning crowd reaction got nearly similar to the one when the streak ended 🤣
I thought that the women's war game was WAAAY more fun than the men's.....
War Games being elimination match as well would be too long. This would ruin the whole 3 minute advantage sequence. But I really want an ending with One Person thrown out of the cage, one match in the men and women will surely be less interesting and you could use that as a finish for that match.
Well TheGreatOne, there is a match type that has both elimination format with the violence of cage, it's called Elimination Chamber.
I agree with you that the format of 5v5 elimination is far more exciting. This feels a bit dull till all members of both teams enter the cage. Also, WWE doesn't allow the gore and blood needed to elevate this type of match.
WarGames needs a good story and big spots to work on the other hand one could be entertained by the work-rate of the traditional elimination match without even knowing the story.
1:23 YESSS I WISH
I miss the old 5v5 elimination survivor series.. we've had some amazing moments like ziggler taking down 4 people if I remember right as the last man on his team
Shinsuke’s new gimmick could be the beginning of his best run in WWE👌
I kind of disagree with what you said about women's match, I don't know why. I loved the female war games so much. It was incredible, when I saw the money in the bank briefcase in the match I was going nuts.
Punk and roman was an absolute hilight
That was the perfect time to cash in
I wanted Solo to kick out of 3 or 4 finishers, that would have made him actually a cool ass leader. Someone who can be resilient but well… it was a really good match
At last year's Survivor Series, we saw the return of Randy Orton and CM Punk. Who would have thought one year later, CM Punk would participate in a War Games match.
Was hoping for a McIntyre appearance at the end lol
FINALLY WAITED FOR THIS !!!!!
I think eventually this is leading up to Gunther vs Priest vs Balor in a triple threat for the Heavyweight Championship.
I was kinda expecting the rock to appear at the end of the mens wargames match between og bloodline and new bloodline
I was really hoping New Bloodline to win. But from storyline pov, OG Bloodline winning would makes more sense.
for the womans the can do a traditional survival series match. or with other wrestlers not wrestling in the pay per view.
Love shinsuke man he needs a manager to work him on the mic
They gotta push Sheamus he always has amazing matches on Raw, on PPV’s. Underrated all-time. Great heel. Great face.
the thing with shinsuke winning is you can't really be a champion and cut video promo's you have to go out to the ring have apollo crews come out and demand a title match that's how your supposed to book a champion.
One thing i noticed. Everyone hugged paul heyman other than roman who patted him on back of the head! He knows somethings up either that or hes gonna turn on paul heyman and turn heel and kick out the wiseman and punk comes makes the save setting up a future match between them! Punk face and roman back as heel
I think LA Knight is moving up to main event scene again after this feud with shinsuke
Maybe Punk will ask Paul to make him entrant no. 30 on the rumble, I know that doesn't make sense but hey, it's Paul Heyman he can make anything happen
The US title change was a good choice imo. Shinske desperately needed something to do and credibility and taking that title off LA Knight was it. Plus this gives an opportunity to add layers to Knights character arc too. Also, imagine rolling Carmelo and Andrade into the fold too
Nakamura outfit is amazing, he looks like a 2010s heroes movie villain
I’d like to see NXT vs. WWE: WarGames.
I personally liked everything pre show, SHOW, post show, interviews were weird. Punk n his damn donut 🍩 obsession 😂
I give the whole show a Strong B .
I don't care about Damian Priest vs Finn Balor
Shinsuke Nakamura is back baybay!
At the end of the match I saw Punk holding his arm and I thought that he tore his tricep again but I guess he was fine
Selling
@ It was a smart move to sell that because I actually thought he injured it
In a way, War Games is a reverse elimination match if you think about it
On smackdown, I would like to see a pissed off solo sikoa take out his frustration on tanga loa, kicking him out of the faction and bring zilla Fatu as his replacement
I’m predicting that the favor will be that Punk wants a match against the rock because of all of their history to finally take revenge at Wrestlemania. I think this is a pretty good theory, I don’t know if a lot of people tought of this… probably
They should just make war games an elimination esque match
big jim turned the hell up last night
I guess you never seen Hogan swing a chair.
GreatOne vs Nia Jax WM41
Wargame should be match type not annual PLE