Canada’s Greatest Railway Station is Becoming Even Better! | Union Station Enhancement Project
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Toronto Union station is the largest and busiest railway station in Canada, but it's also got a bit of a reputation for always being under construction. This time, we're taking you to see the station's massively expanded platforms - Enjoy!
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Exciting detail worth mentioning, the TTC Subway / Streetcar station expansion will mean a connection to the South Concourse directly!
Did you see the new Tom Scott video on the Japanese maglev train? Any thoughts?
@@amelio5720if you're connecting two cities as large as Japan does, it's obviously justified to build a maglev.
Unlike most things they're NOT Gadgetbahns, they just suffer from the lacking interoperability and higher infrastructure prices, but on the other hand they are much faster, both at accelerating and maximum velocity
Level boarding will help make regional rail feel so much more metro-adjacent.
High level boarding platforms would bring up a debate on whether platform screen doors are necessary here for safety.
It will help a lot!
Level boarding is a godsend
@@haweater1555why would you need platform screen doors with high floor, but not low floor platforms?
Usually high floor platforms (without screen doors) have a safety space below them that allow people falling down to hide
Fr true
One of the most interesting things happening at Union is the upgrade of track control system. Would love it if you could cover that in a video.
Ongoing! But eventually I should cover it!
VIA having integrated cab cars instead of locomotives not only makes it easier to switch directions and adds passenger seating, but the driver benefits from a more comfortable workspace. And the ScotiaBank Arena tunnel decked out like that is so "Tell me you're in Toronto, without telling me you're in Toronto" and I love it. It's way easier to navigate through Pyongyang's main railway station than Union. Just three platforms! It connects to the cities of Chŏngju, Sinŭiju, Namp'o, Sariwŏn, Kaesŏng, Wŏnsan, Hamhŭng and Rason. Beside domestic routes, there are international services to Moscow, Beijing, and Dandong. The original station building was constructed in the 1920s but it was destroyed during the war and was rebuilt in 1958.
I'm really excited for the wider platforms where I'm not squeezing between the tracks. I'm also excited by the reduced number of platforms and simplified routing. It seems unnecessarily complicated now waiting to find out where to wait for a train (not that you'll be waiting as long in the future).
It absolutely is unnecessarily complex, but thats because history!
I haven't been to Toronto for many years. I look forward to visiting again and seeing this renovated terminal when it is finished. Thanks for the video.
Its improved a lot!
I was thinking you were going to mention the East Bayfront LRT extension the city of toronto recently posted on their channel... Union still has a long way to go.
Lol same. I was like hey I just watched that video last night!
I discussed in a previous video here: ua-cam.com/video/j8obutLCiT0/v-deo.html
@@RMTransit perfect thank you. Just finished watching this one and saw how you mention this towards the end. Time to watch it next 😁😁
@RMTransit Yes, I remember that video. (especially on Facebook ads). It's just the timing of your video and the city's were just a few days apart
"So instead of waiting at the station's concourse, you can just go straight to your platform" That's something I've loved about Hoboken Terminal compared to NY Penn. No escalators, no need to go through a big concourse, you just get your ticket from either a ticket machine next to the tracks or from the ticketing booth inside the gorgeous waiting room (as seen in Julie & Julia) and walk right over to whichever track your train leaves from (as seen in Muppets Take Manhattan). They list the track numbers way ahead of time as there's not many and the trains just sit there anyway. This is on top of the fact Hoboken Terminal's a hub with NY Waterway, PATH, and Hudson-Bergen Light Rail services. It's one of the few remaining rail-boat connections in the US.
It's the last terminal in operation of what was once five terminals that lined the NJ waterfront (Communipaw Terminal is the only other one standing; now part of Liberty State Park). Initially combining rail, ferry, subway, streetcar (which you can see remnants of the tracks today next to the terminal) and pedestrian services, Hoboken Terminal has been considered a milestone in American transportation. And the fact Hoboken rebuilt a clock tower as a replica of the original one (that stood from 1907 to 1942 in order to use its copper for WWII) in 2007 made the terminal's charm even better.
Was so confused when you mentioned Essen Hauptbahnhof, because I'm an Essen resident. But the First Thing I thought about this Layout was: Oh looks like platforms 7,8,9,10 in Essen😅
Local confirmation!
Thanks for covering this, Reese. As an old platform 25'er myself, it's really exciting to see progress towards something better.
Have you checked out the design for the new streetcar loop at Union? It's going to be meant for the port lands streetcar.
He talked a bit about it and how it's great, but also, since it's being labeled as part of the Portland's, it's multiplying the apparent cost of what should be a rather simple project.
Not that he (or I) am against it (as far as I can tell)
@@neolithictransitrevolution427 Indeed I discussed in a previous video here: ua-cam.com/video/j8obutLCiT0/v-deo.html
@@RMTransit I have always felt that the Union streetcar hub was outdated, it's great to see the TTC taking notice of that.
There so many projects! It's amazing you're able to keep it all straight. Toronto has so much going on. I'm glad to see some new videos doing updates on them. I always enjoyed them as watching construction projects has always been fun for me. If the US doesn't start WWIII we'll get to see so much come to fruition in the next few years. Thanks for detailing all this!
Thanks for the update. I am an infrequent user of Via, only travelling a couple of times a year, and sometimes have to transfer trains in TO. I have hated Union Stn for a very long time, but sometimes you just can't avoid that transfer. Hopefully all this work will result in a much smoother experience once completed.
Hopefully Montreal / Quebec decision makers see this and decide to overhaul the Lucien l’Allier and gare centrale situation we have ( along with the awful regional trains we currently have )
They really need it!
I think Toronto needs a second hub in Midtown like how New York has Penn and Grand Central Stations
Love the channel !!! I think the Dubai Metro network or Melbourne Railway network as well should also be covered. Definitely a topic worth a video. I'd like your views on that too.
wow, had no idea this was happening. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
The way this renovation is being done reminds me a lot of Warsaw West station rebuilding in a way that (if I'm not mistaken) they both work with just a few platforms at the time while keeping the rest of them running.
Love your appearance on The Agenda!!
As someone who’s used the station a fair bit, my main complaint is that getting between the buildings can feel like a maze. Curious to see how much easier it is once the construction is done, if I’m still in Toronto by then
Great video
Sounds exciting!
Reece, I did rember your guide to the labyrinth that is the current Union Station.
I'm glad for a renewal with more space for actual station.
I'm not actually sure from your video how much less labyrinthan the USEP will render the new version...
Maybe I woke up too early or I've only ever used the station twice in my life.
I bet someone else has created a comparison explainer so I'm not asking you to reinvent the wheel...
I hope your extra long Easter/Pesach/Ramadan weekend is going well.
I don't think it will add or remove significant complexity
The only thing I'm more excited for is the introduction of Cherry station and the bonkers amazing improvements to exhibition.
Theres unfortunately no plan for a station at Cherry
This all looks great and amazing video as usual. but any idea when this is all gonna be completed?
I arrived at platform 24 on a Barrie Line train today and was wondering what was happening on one side of the platform, now I know what!
When you see how impressive the new grand central terminal is in NYC, it is good to see similar infrastructure projects here in our own country.
Great. And, it's about time
1:42 I remember going down that hallway going to see a Leafs preseason game in September and thinking I wasn’t supposed to be there because it didn’t looked finished
RMTransit is TVO famous now.
This is a little off topic but I find myself feeling less rushed at Union given all the upgrades and the less busy trains! If I miss the 17:50 train, no worries! I’ll get a snack in the food court or Timmies, work on my homework, and get the 18:20 train. Same thing for the other train departures. The station is overall better for waiting in than before I find!
I'd love to see you do a video on the growing "twin city" lrt network
I'm super interested in what the platform arrangement is planned to look like throughout the rest of the station. I've actually looked into this a couple days ago but wasn't able to find any sort of planned station diagram. By the way its news to me that the new platforms have bay platforms! I was expecting them to be 2 Island platforms with four thru tracks. Suffice to say that the way Metrolinx conveys information to the public stands to be improved...
I think a lot of design is still not done, which is part of why more is not being shared
You can get a decent idea of the concept for the rest of the station by looking at the development application documents they submitted to the City of Toronto
Ten or fifteen years ago improvements to Union Station was budgeted at $400 million CAD. I think we have blown way past that.
Sounds similar to the new Central Station stuff in Sydney and it’s existing platforms. Should take a look into it.
It's actually a pretty different layout! Central has suburban platforms off to the side, this station has them throughout.
Another station that we've been waiting for years in Spain is La Sagrera... stil not finished after 20 years :(
Shame they didn’t raise the platforms with the last remodel…
I believe it os because it still has to allow CN trains to pass, although I don't know why that would be at all platforms
They more or less did not touch the platforms
Still gotta check out CIBC park, walk by it almost every week
It's a really excellent space!
And also on @thecityoftoronto youtube channel, they talked about a new upgrade to the streetcar area of Union Station!!
So excited for the future🎉
Yes, it is a good video
USEP- Unending Station Enhancement Project
Lots of stuff to enhance!
Do you know when the South platform is scheduled for completion? at least estimated. I was very pleasantly surprised at how quick the Davenport diamond overpass viaduct took to complete, I swore it was a few years to go until last weekend. as a Barrie line frequent user, I did not notice any mins shaved off the commute with the original times still in force.
When are they going to finish the retail and food courts? I’ve seen the same OPENING SOON signs for years.
Could you talk about the best station in the US? I would say that would either be Washington Union Station or Philadelphia 30th Street. NY Penn is being fixed a bit, but still has some issues related to its charm, low-ceiling, and operating over 3 times its intended capacity a few years ago. Adding Moynihan is a good start, but more needs to be done for it to reclaim it’s spot as one of the best
Philly wins, through running
Dont forget grand central, the by far best kept of the nyc terminals
As a foreigner and purely from a construction standpoint, I would say Denver and New Haven have stations that are up to a modern standard. LA is also okay.
I wish they would replace the truck tunnel with streetcar freight tunnels. Streetcar freight used to be somewhat common in North America, and it could be again, for businesses (such as those under Union Station) that are always going to be ordering mainly the same stuff.
The project to rebuild Stuttgart station dwarfs this, in the "City of German Cars". Hampered by local geography and historic alignments of rail lines, this an epic project and completion keeps getting pushed back.
The speed!!!! What can I say?
Anyone heard how the over head wires for the electric trains will be put through Union? I heard the heritage part of the roof is too low. I would personally be happy to see the old roof replaced with a higher glass one end to end of the platforms.
They gotta increase the speed of the go trains. They only go at 80km. Pick up is slow breaking needs time. They gotta update to reduce commute time.
Montréal had/has plans for a new train station on the west side of city center for intranational. Maybe more sense to build - to - measure than try future-proof.
Wouldn’t it just be Lucien l’Allier used for Via trains? Perfect scenario would be the ville Marie tunnel being replaced by a train station/train tunnel that allows through put from east to west of the city
@@TheNmecod the concept I saw was on the old Turcot yard. There was a tram proposal for Ville Marie - Notre -Dame I think.
I think the existing stations should just be upgraded honestly
A major upgrade to the streetcar connection at Union was also just announced!
The expansion has actually been planned for a while, but yes its good and it will connect directly to the South Concourse!
Whoa! I never realised how low the floor for the GO trains was from your other footage. It looks almost tram-like! Do the bogeys eat into the seating room?
Not specifically. There is a small staircase up at the end of the cars to bring you over the bogies, and this doubles as the first third of the stairs to the upper floor
So far, I'm not super impressed with the changes at Union.
The part of union I liked best before was the old Go concourse, with ample stairs and the ability to handle hordes of travellers at rush hour. I found it very easy to keep myself oriented (spatially).
Now I don't go as often, but I always seem to wind up getting off Go trains that sees me have to walk past 3-4 cars before winding up on a narrow set of stairs, and I wind up in a part of the station where I absolutely NEED to follow signs to get to the subway part of the station.
I don't dispute that the work is needed, but it seems to me that there has been too much focus on lipstick, and not enough on passenger and pedestrian flow.
Awesome video. Question: Can we assume that the new platforms accommodate train electrification?
Of course! Existing ones can too
@@RMTransit Great stuff. Thanks!
Could you talk about transit in Dallas or Detroit? I know both are very decentralized in terms of urban geography, and the transit is very lackluster in both cities, but I would love to see some ideas on how to improve transit not only within the city, but also from edge city to edge city.
Dallas has the largest light rail system in the US and it still hasn’t been covered by RM yet ☹️
Reminds me of Jamaica Station, they removed a pass around track and put in a new south platform, but that’s only for shuttle service to/from Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn, as they moved the through trains from points farther east into Grand Central or Penn as part of reshuffling the LIRR after Grand Central Madison opened.
Yes! Jamaica could also benefit from wider platforms I think!
Amazon pick up center will be super convenient.
Can they please put 200 vending machine in the space as well. I want to buy stuff while I wait for my train.
I've never understood that shed they built a few years ago when the rest of the platforms are so passenger-unfriendly. Makes more sense to do the entire shed and platforms in one go.
I sort of agree, it was weird to not wait to do that later
Clould you talk abot Chamartin station in Madrid?, it's also doing a mayor rebuild!
When I visit Madrid for sure!
If union station ever stops being under construction, I fear the locals may go mad with confusion :P
Please explain why they dont provide train services on Saturday and Sunday on kitchener lane as i have been traveling alot to toronto from brampton but as i have seen go buses from georgetown, UofGuelph, Bramalea, Brampton have full capasity, and why whole week services to east and west lakeshore ?
They just started this weekend! First ever one train per hour to Brampton out to Mt. Pleasant.
Now lets get funding for the Waterfront LRT so that can start construction soon!
So when is this expected to be complete?
I love how just because something is located in Toronto it's considered by locals to be "The Greatest" , waterfront station in Vancouver is 100 times grander and evokes the glory days of Train Travel with connections to Ocean liners, Cruise ships and Ferries plus the Subway connection to YVR and Skytrain to points east in the basement
Union is much larger and is used by many more people.
@@alistairlogie1815 bigger is not better......
Yeah Waterfront station gets no heavy rail service other then the West Coast Express. And even Union subway station gets more passengers then the Skytrain connections. I think a great station is one that is useful. And for more people, Union is more useful. You know what I love? Vancouverites ontop high horses claiming Vancouver is the most urbanist utopia place on the continent.
@@pepperpillow This. Vancouver is just as car centric and suburban as any North American city
@@alistairlogie1815 One of the things they do is claim that Vancouver is the best cycling city in Canada. So so much better then Toronto. But the issue is that they are comparing Vancouver with post amalgamation mega city Toronto. So if you look at the numbers of course your going to see a higher % of cyclists. The better comparison would be Vancouver vs Old Toronto or Toronto vs Greater Vancouver. I suspect it wouldn’t be so clear cut then.
They just spent millions renovating the old part of Union Station (where one catches VIA Rail). They covered every wall with little boring beige tiles. All that noise and dust for years and they couldn't spend 10 minutes choosing a colour? Maybe a little accent stripe to relieve the monotony? Any one of Montreal's many metro stations has more design in it than the entirety of Union. Way to go Toronto.
Metrolinx is working on big changes to the transit system that will impact the next generations to come.
So this is an example of “ spend money on expansion later “ model that apparently saves money.
It will be better if it had movable platform doors which is similar to the new platforms 21 and 24 in osaka station to protect commuters due to narrow space
I don't really think thats a priority at the moment when platforms are not even level yet.
I usually skip over anything that has to do with Toronto, but that was really neat!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed!
but then again there would be little to no retailers (still miss the fragrance of the cinnamon rolls served here)
With how hot Toronto real estate is, are there plans to develop the air rights above the corridor? It looks like a huge scar in the communities it passes through, like an American interstate highway.
it's much wider than any interstate highway
@@TheTroyc1982 oh wow. that's quite a slash through the city.
There is a rail deck plan downtown. But if that ever happens it will for sure be luxury real estate like Hudson Yards in NYC.
The year is 2069 and Toronto Union Station is undergoing phase 28 of construction.
Shinjuku Station is also always under construction. It's a symptom of being a great train station.
Athens transit explained when? There are so many bus lines, there are 3 metro lines, there is the tram and the regional! Please consider it!
P.S. In case you consider it, I'm really informed about Athenian transit so make sure to reach out to me if you have any trouble/ questions.
Thank you.
Quite the massive project. Thanks for sharing!!! Now let’s see if this intense upgrade to infrastructure is reflected in the intense upgrade to patron usage. We need to get people back to working in the offices downtown. The projected 20% office vacancy rate is troubling and this beautiful Union upgrade would unfortunately serve no purpose.
The labyrinth grows larger.
I still consider those south platforms new 🤷♂️
I wonder when they're going to finally be finished with the Ontario line it would be nice if go transit was not just an Ontario thing but it stretched out to the rest of Canada like that they would build go stations all over the country
why would the Government of Ontario (GO) build stations across the country or even outside of the Toronto area?? The reason why GO is so useful is because it serves the 10 million people who live in the densest part of the country.
@@TheTroyc1982 I guess that's true
@@TheTroyc1982 but it would be nice to have a lot more options other than just via rail
Did you move or do you still live in Toronto?
As mentioned I have moved, I'll travel around as needed to make videos though!
@@RMTransitAnd where have you moved to?
I think my main concern at the time is ridership. I'm not sure that we will ever go back to the days of yore with commuting. How long is the province going to heavily subsidize such frequent service on GO? I hope I'm wrong.
Even though the %'age of people who commute downtown has dropped, the overall increase in population of the GTA will ensure the numbers will still be climbing
If the platforms are going to be wider then why won’t they have escalators?
I see those as being separate initiatives!
Looks like a new dogs breakfast to replace an old dogs breakfast. I wish transit planners in Toronto and GTA would get over their obsession with Union; most people dont want to go to Union.( I am amazed that they built the Crosstown without adding a dip down to Union.) People need east-west transit including regional not more routes to Union.
it's the busiest station in Canada and the 3rd busiest in North America. All the improvements are making Union station more of a destination as well and more than a station
yeah we get good stuff too in canada, but once EVERY DECADE or two (depending which politician is screwing us)
only if Canada took the help of Japanese JR stations seen in Tokyo, it would be a dream come true. I don't know why no other country adopts Japanese railway station layouts. they are itself a destination with shops and restaurants underground and a major hub in that part of the city where businesses thrive.
Other countries have! The Netherlands for example!
@@RMTransit oh thank you for sharing this information. Would love to see the Japanese contribution to the Dutch railways in a future video!
Have you been to Union Stations, it's loaded with shops, restaurants and other retail plus it's connected to the PATH which is a more of the same but spread all across downtown Toronto underground
@@TheTroyc1982 thank you. I haven't visited the union station as of yet, but i will check it out. The underground portion reminds me of Japanese stations.
GO Transit has started doing the Japanese hand singling thing...
Who owns Union Station?
The main building is owned by the city of Toronto, the platforms are owned by Metrolinx, and the subway and streetcar station is owned by the TTC
excited for toronto, we will have the best transit in north america
We are certainly trying to get there!
I love watching people getting off VIA rail and not knowing where to go. A lot of homeless people walking around also.
the 1920s trains shed should not be a heritage structure
Canada uses Newcomers to pay pensions of old Europeans through tax
I just don't get the "for EVENTUAL platform height raising" tbh... You guys apparently like to spend money twice on the same thing. Imagine doing a complete station rebuild without doing the most important part at all.
The platforms can't be raised now because the GO trains aren't compatible with level boarding yet.
permanent construction its a feature
Thats the price to pay for a lot of improvement!
Decades of renovations and it's still all rubble 😂😂😂
It hasn't been decades and it's getting a lot better!
@@RMTransit I don't know man, your videos feel like toxic positivity at this point. You're giving way too much credit to these corrupt transit organizations who unlike the good old days when they had publicly owned corporations building for the public, they're handing out publicly funded projects for developers, investors, and not to mention contractors and subcontractors. In the time Union station got a renovation from what 2009-2022, Chinese cities built multiple high-speed rail lines and double digit metro lines. We're still stuck with the country's busiest station in the state of rubble 14 years in, and the end isn't even near. This is third world level corruption that's being commended.
Greatest?
What other station in Canada can compete?
They turned union station into an awful mall. There needs to be a remodel of the remodel.
What don't you like? I enjoy that there is now stuff to do.
@@neolithictransitrevolution427 I don't mind that there's things to do. I mind that I feel needlessly and inefficiently re routed to walk through commercial areas. It feels like they made it lore maze like to increase commercial space rather then having efficient pathways through the building.
@@LSOP- The building hasn't really seen redesigned pedestrian paths to route you by commercial space! And I think its super useful for people to be able to stop at a shop on their way to the train, or especially while waiting!
Yes to the union mall!
Can they please put 200 vending machines in there.
It’s about time. It’s going to be beautiful and modern.
I'm so sorry for Canada. Most things about a good Canada are not true, Including clean cities - beaches, and forests. It's a big lie. The first time I arrived in Vancouver in 2018, I was shocked. As soon as I left the airport door, I saw tissue, disposable glasses, and other garbage left in the city. The further I went, the more I saw them. Before I moved to Canada, I lived in Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Serbia, The United States, and for a short time in Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Netherlands, Germany, and England, but I have never seen the amount of garbage that people leave in different Canadian cities. Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Quebec are no less than Vancouver. Canadian and Canada Governments don't care about this tragedy. I think everything that says about Canada as a clean and powerful culture is not true. You don't need to travel to Canada to see this. Just watch some videos about walking in downtown Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Quebec. You will find the truth. Impossible for you to walk in a Canadian city and you don't see the dark side of that. Everywhere you will see garbage. You will never see this in Europe, Australia, the United States, Japan, and Korea. This amount of waste is not even seen in Malaysian, Indonesian, or Thailand cities. It is impossible for you to use public transport and not see a lot of garbage at stations or on the route. You will be surprised to find a lot of garbage even in the woods - by the rivers and on the beaches in Canada. I wish the Canadians woke up and had no enmity with their country.
To be fair, I randomly looked at videos from downtown Manchester and Concord in New Hampshire - Philadelphia - Detroit - Chicago - New York - Baltimore - Denver - Nashville, and Knoxville in the United States, and Toronto - Quebec - Montreal - Winnipeg - Calgary - Vancouver - Victoria - Ottawa and Thunder Bay in Canada. we should be fair. The bitter truth must be accepted. Without any exaggeration. Completely impartial. I have to say that I didn't see a single piece of garbage in any of the US videos to convince myself. Without exaggeration, in all Canadian cities, there must have been a piece of garbage on the ground less than every hundred meters. It must have an important reason. I do not know. But this is a bitter truth. You can try. This country should be brought closer to its exaggerated claim. the truth is bitter. Certainly, some Asian countries such as Japan, South Korea, Singapore, and even Malaysia are much cleaner compared to Canada. Of course, we should not forget that Canada claims to be one of the 10 cleanest countries in the world. And Vancouver claims to be one of the 5 cleanest cities in the world. Please go to East Hastings or Victoria Drive or Commercial Drive or West Georgia or Broadway or Main Street and judge for yourself. I am 50 years old and have traveled to 26 countries. Canada is far from its claims. I saw, homeless people, pooping and peeing everywhere and it's so common. nobody cares. I was shocked again. I endured for 3 years but every day going worst. late in 2022, I decided to move to the east because I thought that place has a stronger culture. I chose Montreal. I had heard it is the capital of art and civilization in Canada. it was absolutely wrong. Canada is Canada. I was shocked again, again, and again. the wave of homelessness, graffiti, vandalism, bad smell, terrible infrastructure especially roads in or out of the city, and above all, you can see trash everywhere. plastic bags, tissues, water bottles, and disposable cups. You cannot see any street or park or public place without these. This is impossible. surprisingly nobody cares. neither the people nor the government!!!!!!! please, don't be fooled by the advertisement about a good Canada. please, be careful. most of the things about a good Canada are deception This country is disappointing. Please, Please, Please, don't immigrate to Canada you would regret it absolutely. this is not a developed country, Canada is a developing country with huge serious problems.
What does this have to do with this video? And the claim that American cities are cleaner is a joke.