For those upset at “don’t talk down to the dogs” I think he’s saying let’s set dogs up for success and don’t breed neurotic issues into a line. It’s not fair to anyone /any dog.
Exactly, people are to worry about their feelings they forget the pain those neurotic dogs go everyday, afraid of everything and in physical pain tnx to the "looks standards"
Exactly. He’s not saying the dog needs to be put down. He’s not saying it doesn’t deserve to be loved. He’s saying that this should never be allowed to happen in the first place.
This is why I’m a huge working line person. I like a smart, brave, workable dog with strong nerves as well as a solid temperament. Breeding for color is just awful. That poor show line... scared... a nervous wreck
Depends - In Germany show lines still have to demonstrate the ability to work and only dogs achieving IPO (not called this anymore) can breed. Mine is 50% working/ show line from Germany and has IPO champs in both lines.
First that is by far NOT A SHOW DOG you really need to educate yourself I know many "SHOW LINE " dog that are working dogs if a dog doesn't have even temperament and stable it can't enter the ring it also has to be a good example of the breed that has none of them I'm privilege to have a Maligator that can run circles around a lot of WORKING and SHOW dogs and then let him play with the children I don't need or want to do protection work with him he will do what he needs to when confronted with that as my Bully did
@@theodorehyatt1782 Agreed. I use mine for herding. The GSD’s original use. Put a herd in a designated field with no fence and train the dog to keep them from leaving/eating the crops in neighboring fields, whilst protecting from predators. (without a person present). If they stray or go missing - its a fail. If they eat crops you will be sued. Dogs have to be smart and autonomous to do this. They also have to distinguish what is a threat - can’t have them attacking a person or farm dog walking past. IPO works with the breeds natural inherent instincts. They are wired to protect their charges (be it livestock or people) and guard them. I smile when people tell me their shep will let people in the home - but not let them leave. A bit like collies nipping at heels. I think Mal’s are the same. Here is a GSD, working in its original capacity. ua-cam.com/video/-UgoCfNS3qk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=UlfKintzel
I own a German shepherd male and just from watching this video I know I can never breed him thanks for educating me . Will work on helping my dog become more confident though, so he can have a good life.
Show breeders seem to be ruining a lot of breeds. They just go for pretty when choosing which dogs to breed. German shepherds bred for show now have ruined hips, so the back legs are so bent when walking. Show corgis and weiner dogs are now bred to have longer backs, leading to back problems. Pugs, boxers and other short muzzle dogs have been bred for show have had their muzzles so shortened that they have real breathing problems. And pugs can have their eyes pop out! So no matter what breed of dog you buy, make sure it is from a responsible breeder!
yarnpower another breed is the cavalier, I saw my first traditional looking cav at work last week and she was gorgeous. There are so many breeds that you can look back on in paintings and see for what they really were, it’s sad to see the dogs of today but unfortunately lot of people also don’t want to accept there’s a problem
Dam breed judges keep rewarding these screwed up freaks, which drives what people breed if they want to win. In my breed, if you bring in a proper dog, they "look out of place" and lose. My last male had a superb body, he could work all day, and was fearless, but he had a short coat so would never win in a breed ring. But hell, he was one dam good working dog, even had great herding instinct. He was the kind of dog I want. His breeder had a kennel full of dogs like him. Unfortunately, she is elderly and doesn't breed anymore. The line doesn't carry on because her dogs fit the standard, so "looked out of place," and so, would not win. A well built dog does not have ears directly in line with the front legs. This breeder was also a breed judge. She got reamed when she found a proper dog and put it up - it looked out of place.
So crazy. I love dogs and honestly I rarely see a purebred German Shepherd nowadays even in the last five years that doesn’t have hip dysplasia even as a puppy effing sad
True that! My family loves pugs, and we only get them from the same breeder. She breeds “retro pugs” that has slightly longer muzzles and a better build overall. My pug only has problems breathing if it’s hot outside and he’s running like a maniac. I think breeder research and breed research are very important!
My current dog is the worst I’ve ever owned. Afraid of his own shadow. He’s beautiful but useless. The breeder wants me to breed him. I couldn’t believe it. He will never sire anything. He is fine as a pet and that’s it. Glad to hear you say it.
Gene Miller It’s amazing that you have the sense to know not to pass on his genetic flaws 💯 Most people get wrapped up in the whole “but I love him so much and want one of his puppies” BS lol Too many “breeders” these days just want the breeder title and the coin that comes from selling any kind of puppies to anyone who will pay... Kudos to you!!! 💯 🙌 🙏 👏
And the dam breed judges will put up a dog that is shying away, or frantically spinning, etc because it's the prettiest on. Irks me to no end. Our dog club puts on a specialty show once a year. We changed to an indoor site. People of my chosen breed won't enter because "it's too much for their dogs," all the noise and activity. They don't take it well when I tell them to breed a better dog, that the dog should be unphased by this. Our club also puts on an agility show. Those dogs are unphased by a noisy building. These people will not buy a dog without a stable temperament. An unstable or unwilling to work dog is crap. One of my friends continues to breed pretty dogs that won't work, that freezes up. The last bitch she has from this line is sterile. Thank God!
cmozoo wow... couldn’t agree more!!! these kind of “breeders” are way too plentiful!! You want to keep any of the breeds pleasing to look at but when looks override function, health, and temperament it’s a slippery slope and since so many people buy the first cute puppy they see, with no research of the breed itself or the breeder, they’re none the wiser until later on when their “expensive pedigreed” puppy is spazzing out and already limping at age 2 from arthritis and bad hips... The ONLY way to change this and to put bad breeders/puppy mills out of business is to hit them where it hurts most right in their pocket book!! They don’t care about fines or probation because they make so much money off the dogs it’s wort it financially to keep breeding.. absolutely sickening...☠️🤬😑🙄💯
@@tasha_111_ I agree with you 100 percent, my current German shepard is picture perfect, smart, obedient, and all round a good girl. The breeder is a very good person and I plan to mate her with another very well tempered German shepherd
I bought my first GSD 3 months ago and I absolutely love him. He has a wonderful demeanor and came with AKC papers. He loves people and can’t wait to greet every person he sees. I love that about him. Nothing sound wise has phased him, thunder,lightening, loud construction he’s just not phased unless it’s my roomba vacuum. Took him a time or two to get used to that and all he wants to do is play with it. I’ve been told I should breed him. However, I’m not a breeder and when getting him those were not my intentions and still aren’t. I got him for a family pet and that’s it. Too many people see dollar signs with these dogs, I’m not one of them and people really do need to consider what goes into breeding dogs. People need to quit being selfish.
I'm not a breeder and I can just see the difference I got my baby girl for a local breeder after watching this I now know I cant breed her it's sad. It's the character of the dog the lack of confidence you can see in the second dog yes she maybe a happy pup but fair from what the intent of the breed is german shepherds are an overwhelming confident breed that's why I always wanted one
@@Aurelisk her legs indicate bad breeding which results in lifelong pain. Also indicate inbreeding. All for looks. Breeders that breed for looks and color will breed father to their daughters which is now banned but breeders then breed grandpa to granddaughter which also makes them more inclined for health difficulties more inclined for catching diseases.
Learned this the hard way. My first GSD was an American show line. He was very fearful of people and the trainer said he was dangerous because of his temperament. He passed away last year and I bought a Czech/DDR bloodline GSD from Czech Republic and he’s super with my kids loves people is super confident but loves to work has extreme drive and can go from doing bite work to fetch and playing with the kids in an instant. I’ll never buy an American again. He was also a lot easier to train because of his drive. He picked up bite work immediately along with anything I’ve taught him. I’ve also grown to love his black sable coat and none traditional GSD look the show lines tend to have.
I'm a breeder as well and I totally agree with you. It is the responsibility of the breeder to produce the best dog you can and good temperament is part of your over all goal.
Why do you think this is such a recent problem? I'm a veterinarian with 20 years of experience. We didn't used to see shepherds like this. Even the ones from bad breeders had reasonable temperaments. They had crappy joints, and you got the occasional aggressive one, but for the most part, they were confident and social. Now, almost all of them are anxious and fearful. It's sad.
@@deeanna8448 It's sad I agree. Unfortunately a lot of breeders don't follow the code of ethics. They are in it for the money and temperaments be damn. If you continue a bad breeding the genetics will be passed on. A good breeder will recognize this and will work to eliminate that bad trait.
Sadly I understand that it is possibly how you make a living but I wish they would put more restrictions on breeding. Look at it this way guys like you would not have issues because you’re a good breeder and would not come across any licensing problems. But irresponsible breeders would have their license polled and no longer be able to breed if they continued to suck. Just one man’s opinion though
The German trainer's words of the dog reaching back to find the courage to go forward brought tears to my eyes! I am so going to use this in my own life!!
Nice video! I want to mention, a breeder can breed both good and bad dogs. My dad has an amazing german shepherd from a local breeder, who apparently bred for everything but temperament. Even though he trained working dogs 🤷 My first red flag when we went to pick out the pup was when the breeder discourage us from interacting with the 2 puppies before chosing. He wanted us to pick the one we thought was pretty! He scoffed at the idea that we should care about their personality. We had been taught years ago that the best pick is when the dog chooses you, so we stuck to our guns. When the breeder brought them out I was in shock because we realized this guy had never interacted with them outside of feeding time. They had never played in the grass before. The one pup was absolutely terrified and ran back into the kennel; he also wouldn't get close enough for me or my dad to touch him. Duke on the other hand was the complete opposite, and when he was tuckered out he curled up between my dad's feet and slept. As the breeder watched Duke interact with us he joked about not letting us take him ... A year later he tried to buy him back from my dad so he could train and breed him. I'm glad we had been taught by our first breeder (golden retrievers) to not choose by looks. I think about if we had gotten the other puppy, especially as first time german shepherd owners, how dangerous it could have gotten. I hope the breeder didn't keep him to breed and that he went to an experienced home who could help him. Unfortunately I doubt that happened :( I had activily trained with my golden for 8 years. Having Duke forced me to change my methods and learn to train based on personality and not a one size fits all approach. German shepherds are amazing dogs, but they aren't for everyone, especially as a simple pet. We probably shouldn't have gotten one (Duke would have thrived with a working trainer) but he's my dad's joy (and pest) and my dad is his. (It's funny watching them sass each other 😂)
This is super helpful! I would love to see videoes like this but with puppies around 8 weeks. I think that would help people that are picking out young puppies for their family. Both good and bad things to look for.
Unless you are someone like Haz, you should not be picking out your puppy!! You do not have the experience to do so. A high quality breeder will pick the dog for you. They will have watched the dog since it was born. They will recognize the good and the bad in each puppy. And they will be able to pair you with the right puppy. Or tell you that honestly none of these pups meet your needs, and will have you wait for another litter.
I feel like this issue also applies to most doodle breedings. People are attracted to the doodle fad or style but every doodle is a complete wildcard, coat wise and personality wise.
I've been working with dogs for over 20 years with pretty good success. But this past year when I adopted a German Shepherd/Rottweiler cross and to my dismay he turned out to be fear aggressive despite all the socialization and hard work I put into him. I've been taking it personally, like somewhere I dropped the ball but hearing what you've said has opened my eyes. I hope you have a how to video on how you handle a dog like this so that my fussy Ragnar can have something close to a normal life like the rest of my dogs. Thanks for sharing!
The Woof Pack I get dogs who are ordered to be put down due to aggression. The last one was a Rottweiler who the owners couldn’t even handle and he growled at them. After 4 weeks, he wouldn’t even bark at strangers. He ended up being a fantastic family pet who I placed with a family with kids eventually, and has been with them for nearly 2 years now. There are ways to undo what’s wrong especially fear aggression.
@@hellabella8295 Teach me senpai! lol Our Ragnar has bit my brother 3 times, my father in law, my brother in law and a family friend. He's not aggressive to me, my husband nor our children and my father or our cat and other dogs BUT every thing else he feels he must kill it before it kills him. We got him fixed hoping that would help and we've been working with him still but there's barely any improvement... 😓
@@The_Woof_Pack neutering really doesn’t make a difference ( yes I know a vet will tell you it does). He needs to learn that doing that is NOT allowed. There has to be consequences for bad behavior. He can be successfully retrained by a proper trainer. I’ve done it. It really works.
I'm sure the main interactions they (that particular dog and that trainer) have are bite training. She probably assumed she was there to bite him but held back after she realized he wasn't wearing the bite sleeve on his arm.
Thank you for saying something. Another breeder I follow has always felt the same way about looking out for temperament. TEMPERAMENT IS SO IMPORTANT. And if someone is breeding just for looks please run the other way and don't buy!
"it's how you raise them!"- this shelter/rescue rant has way too much traction in the dog world. Need more videos like this to counter act that movement. Temperament is largely genetic
Then shelters get young, shy dogs, and someone wants to adopt one, and they can't be adopted out cause of kids, or other dogs, or cats...your dog shouldn't be like that. They should be socialized and shelters should be responsible for putting these young animals through proper socialization instead of instantly demonizing a family for having kids, or another dog. This causes animals to get euthanized. Every shepherd I have applied for at my local shelters, I have either been instantly denied, or just ignored. I've worked at rescues with damaged and shy dogs, and I know how to get them to not be that way anymore. it's just truly sad, because while I'd love to rescue a shepherd that was abandoned for no fault of it's own, I'm finding that it will probably be next to impossible to do because shelters hide behind their poor methods and then get mad when someone buys from a breeder because they want a specific dog.
It makes me think of videos of pitbulls used for fighting and they’re like “so friendly with people despite everything that’s happened 🥺” and I’m like this is a breed characteristic, not the dog rationalizing and recognizing a rescuer. You’re hugging it and poking it and giving it shots it doesn’t understand you’re there to help it’s just the dogs personality. I have two pits and I love them I’m just saying the personification of dog behavior is annoying
@@louiekim824 I didn't say how you raise a dog has nothing to do with it. That would be just as ridiculous as saying how you raise them has everything to do with it.
@@mansondevil33 I wouldn't go as far as to say she was living in fear and misery. She looks like a friendly submissive dog.. it's just her personality.
@@Plump_Lil_Monk I don't think we were watching the same video. The first and third dogs that he showed are what a normal GSD is supposed to act like, they're definitely happy and confident dogs. The second one is basically the dog equivalent of an agoraphobic - I'd be pretty miserable too if I was living with agoraphobia.
I agree!! people need to stop breeding only for looks and money! There is so much more to have a good Fundamentally and healthy dog! I have a German Shepherd male he is so not scared and he is brave when need be so I get what he is saying completely.
I'm still waiting for a show breeder to explain why they breed them to walk on their hocks and why that's superior to ALL the other working breeds that walk normally. Haven't gotten an explanation yet!!!
A while ago, I watched a video about the breeding and all that in the dog shows that the people that breed GS like that think that's how GS should look like and that it's beautiful to see. They also say that police/army force/service GS that have straight backs and looks more healthy aren't true GS. It's disgusting really with how the show/breeders of GS are towards their dogs.
A Pomeranian I know has the same fearful nature, and would be benefit from the same methods of training - it's not breed specific. What is seen in the first dog and third dog is for protection training, not your average pet, only demonstrating that just by nature they can cope with higher level of stress indicative of the breed normally.
please keep putting your educational videos on here for the dumb dog breeders that keep making me same dumb mistakes and making all these excuses the end up into a mountain of nothing love your dogs love your videos can't wait to purchase one for myself
@@XxAzureNekoxX I was just about to edit my comment, I sounded like a jerk. What I meant is that the OP was highlighting the difference between European and “American”, meaning North American.
Grew up on a farm and raised many dogs, Im not a trainer or kennel. On the farm dogs like those attacking, those type of dogs would go after livestock without lots training, might be good put on a chain and used for running coyotes but those types would often bite livestock and visitors and I see em on chains all the time cuz owners had prob with those types eating livestock and biting where as a different temperament and breeds will ride with horses, sheep, leave chickens alone with way less training and all the dogs presented here would be too much training time for ranchers and farmers. I noticed they were never let of the leash,,, that signals Problems big time to a ranchers, I couldnt give one of those dogs away, written of as coyote dogs.
As someone who owns border collies is that they have the same issues, shyness, fearful, and timid. I bought a dog from a breeder, shes none of that! Confident, loving, and stunning. Have good herdiing drive and is overly willing to please. Hes repeating that breedering, im definitely getting a puppy again from that man.
It's been so hard for me to find a cat. "What questions do you have?" I want a mouser. Female. Neutered. With claws. Older is better. Knows the kill bite and preferably feral where it has had to hunt for its survival. I'm aware that a happy cat is a happy hunter and starving them doesn't help. "...."
That second dog doesn't even look healthy. I mean, look at that back, those hips. How have showlines got here? People, honestly, if you're selecting a dog for its breed, compare whatever adults the breeder has to stray muts. Muts are naturally selected for survival, not looks. Would you ever see a mut like that second dog on the street and not think it was sick? Not think it had had an accident?
Its hard to understand until you own one of these basket case dogs that some breeder bred. Ive owned one now so I can understand. If I had never owned such a dog I would maybe unable to understand coming from a point of ignorance
I have watched both parts 1 & 2 now & already learned so much. I've watched dozens of trainers on here, tiktok etc...but could never fully absorb what they were discussing. Videos leave me wanting more, like I want to learn as much as possible now lol. Thank you for your content, sir
In video number one, you mentioned helping her build confidence, mind if I ask how you go about doing so? And not just related to GSD's, but any dog breed.
I rescued my first dog at the last week of 2018, he's 20 months currently and despite being a shepherd mix he has a lot of the traits of a full blood GSD, he's over friendly unless/until he feels someone is suspicious/threating to us or our home then it's guarding mode warning barks and all, it turns back into i love everybody the moment we say the person is ok, love him to bits
I've experience exactly what you are discussing to the point now, that when choosing a breeder/bloodline for my next puppy, I can pretty much screen them on the phone and definitely on a picture. I don't even have to see the dog working anymore. A breeder was referred to me, one look at a picture of the male and not just no, hell no. The misfits deserve to be loved and have a good life - but yes, not for breeding. My home pack is 2 x pound rescue dogs and one purebred GSD. Well done video sir, right down to not pressuring the more timid dog. Just something ya don't do. Much respect.
I was training as a beginner and I noticed within breeds that phenotype seems to correlate with genotype. For example a golden with a big square head is more relaxed and trainable than one with a thin head and muzzle. Or this very specific looking dog that’s small, short coated, cream colored (may be a mutt I’ve never seen a breed for it) is always 110% of the time a nervous wreck and you can’t get it to do anything. Have you noticed that as well? You can look at a dog and see the physical characteristics and just know the temperament?
You can't really with a pup. You have to make sure you get a puppy from someone that tests both parents or they were tested before they were imported if that is the case. Check the pedigree to see the grandparents and on where also tested, you can find this online, you only need the dogs registered name. If they don't have this or not willing to show you, walk. Preliminary hips/elbows can be done sooner, but in order to be certified by the OFA (Orthopedic Foundation for Animals) dogs must be 2 years old. Mind you this is not a guarantee your pup will have good hips, but it stacks the deck more in your favor.
I worked in a dog rescue. We had the county seize 27 german shepards from a breeder. I worked with those dogs for months just to be able to handle n walk on a lead. I had everyone of them spayed/neutered.
That pup in part 1 could she get more confidence by teaming her with one of these two healthy females you shown? Just curious. My uncle train horses for wagon pulling and when he trains a younger horse he puts the horse with an older fully trained horse to help the younger one learn. I know different animals just curious if the technique would work as well with dogs. I know the pup it is due to genetics but something has to be done to help her become more safe for a family.
My german shepard mix rescue is like that dog in strange situations (no fear aggression though and is normal around us at home, fine with all handling by us). She is like a different more confident dog with our male german shepard mix (half a year younger male). She is clearly dominant and bosses him around, but is still dependant on him being around for confidence. The shyness is clearly in her genes, but she also had bad experiences with other dogs bullying her. The male is naturally curious and outgoing, more like the 2 other dogs shown here. The female even refuses to go on walks without the male. Teaming up with another dog really did wonders for her.
Awesome video! My 10 week old I had for a week is amazing! She’s so smart, loves every one. Nothing too much scares her except dirt bikes and Honda’s back firing. I live in Philly! But I can tell she’s going to be amazing! Never had a dog so easy to train! Love this video and channel!
I’m so glad I flew down to Alabama to pick up my pup and paid $2K. My GSD’s parents were IPO3 and it shows in my little pup. Very very confident! Bites a little but can’t blame him yet when he’s only 14 weeks old (a lot less then when we was 8weeks). Anywho this is why you buy from a reputable breeder and NEVER Craigslist.
It sounds like you have a nice pup with good prey drive, which a good GSD should have. You are going through the "furry alligator" stage, very normal. Redirect his biting to toys and not on you. By the time he's done teething 6 months or so if you have done your job that all goes away. And 100X yes, responsible breeders NEVER sell puppies on Craigslist, most have waiting lists to get pups.
Jordan K thanks for the advice! First puppy ever so big learning curve. Waiting till he’s 8 months old to begin his formal explosive scent detection training for LE.
It will be an uphill battle, but consistent training is key. If you have the resources, hiring a professional trainer experienced in the breed and these type of issues will be even better. As just a pet, with training, you can manage them to be a functional member of the family/society still and accept the dog's issues as they are. Just going forward to be cautious of supporting breeders producing the same type of dog for your next one, and warning others to do so.
Can you help with some other breeds besides GS? I have czechoslovakian wolfdog and I know it is normal for them to be cautious and in "flight" mode. As you said, they reach into their ancestry and his is wolf ancestry. And wolves are known to be timid. But i see that all this world we live in is too stressfull for him. Is there a way I can help him to feel little less intimidated by surroundings and new things?
I've also noticed that when I have to hand raise dog's, they're ALLLLOT more social, seem to learn faster and aren't affected negatively at all. They have no issue being handled & are easier to put onto a schedule because they've BEEN on a routine basically their whole life
Now I’m feeling blessed to have a genetically great Dog. He’s a German Shepherd X w/ minimal training. He knows the basic tricks of course but he is so smart ! He has a pretty big vocabulary and he definitely has that prey drive and social/environmental confidence. 🙏🙂 & he’s very gentle. 💕💕
I always complain and warn people about Poodle cross breeds. The Poodle is a hound, a hunting dog. It's tied with German Shepard as second smartest dog depending on the tests. That bright, aggressive, assertive, hunting instinct exists even in the Toy breed. Cross that with dogs that have easy temperaments and owners that spoil their animals; and it's just a recipe for neurosis on the animal.
Yes! People do not realize that they're basically locking a hound mindset into a lap dog life. There's a reason so many of the lap dog breeds and crosses are yappy nervous little overexcited things. A lot of them spark from hunting dogs. They were bred to be small so that they could go into burrows and such, and then people figured they could be more of a "cat-like" pet. Not to mention a lot of them are simply bored, and bored dogs become destructive and neurotic, because their brain is just going unused. I'm not saying to teach them all to "work", but if you want a small dog to keep around, you need proper play, proper games, and proper exercise. One of my neighbours has a standard poodle in a two bedroom apartment. They walk her three to four times a day, but just enough that she goes to the loo, and then wonder why she has a blast destroying their furniture while their gone and running about the house to the point of toppling over things. Because it's a poodle! Their solution was to stuff her in a cage while they're gone, so she got loud. Since this is 2020 and I'm working from home a lot, this became notorious because I can hear her all day long. So I offered to walk her one extra time a day (we both need the exercise, I need the sanity). I've been taking her on longer walks and to an unnoficial dog park where I can have her off the leash. She does the zoomies, she plays fetch, and I allow her to do nothing but what she wants for about 20-30 minutes, while I read or something. Then, there's some obedience training on the way back home, so that she winds down. This progressed to her just spending several hours in my (even smaller) apartment, where she hangs by my feet or in the balcony, and gets to distract herself with a couple of toys that actually make her work for the treat. She's not the perfect urban dog, yet, but none of the new kitchen chairs have been bitten. Damn, I miss having a dog.
I have no idea if cat genetics work the same way but i took my unsocialized cat (born after covid so she never sees any family or friends come over) to the vet for her ear today and she immediately left her crate when i opened it and once she was done inspecting the room she warmed up to the staff and let them all pet her and was extremely warm and friendly. It made me think of this video. Shes has a great social temperament and handles strangers extremely well. 😛🤷🏼♀️
I have an 8 year old border collie that acts just like this. He was reactive young and even acted better off a leash than on one. He definitely had a free streak and even though he was in tune with my commands, he was not mentally sound enough to hang out with any dog as big or larger than himself. Now at 8 years old he finally understands that fighting other dogs is pointless but when he was young he was incredibly bitey to dogs while leashed, and tried to herd them sometimes when off leash.
Very good information. Ive always wondered about the social temperament and why some dogs would just shut down. Definitely agree with not breeding dogs like that. Love your channel. Came across it by accident.
How do you build confidence with a dog? My dog (who is a backyard bred mixed breed with high amount of border collie). I've owned her since she was 8 weeks and socialized her extensively but she's still shy and has a few phobias. I like that you say that you aren't in the business of emotionally abusing the dogs so I know that you might have techniques I could/would use.
Absolutely genetics plays a HUGE role... it is not always a result of poor handling. My sis got 3 Rottweiler pups, all from the same litter, they lived on the same property, same food, etc. Two are still alive, though their hips are really bad, but while they are protective, they are not aggressive. The third was shot when less than two years of age. She started killing chickens. My folks got her a muzzle (basket type--she could open her mouth to pant/bark/drink water), and she learned to take the chickens to the ditch and drown them. Killed 8 chickens this way while my Mom was milking the cow. They decided to keep her in a yard, reinforced the fence to keep her in securely. One of the lambs wandered by the fence, the dog grabbed the lamb and pulled her through the fence, intestines first. Didn't kill the lamb, left it bleeding and bleating in the dust until my nephew found it and got my dad, who shot the lamb first (to end its pain), then shot the dog. He figured if she was that intent on causing harm, it was only a matter of time before it was a child rather than poultry or livestock. Again, the other two Rottweilers are still alive and have never killed an animal of any kind.
Is there a good method for picking a puppy? Just found your channel so I'm not sure if you've already addressed this. Definitely looking for a working dog, we got a doberman but he's timid and lazy. Good dog for my wife and kids but it sucks that I can't use him how I originally intended. Looking for a new puppy in the next year or so but I need to learn how to be very picky. Dog should be able to have drive against people but primarily large animals like cougars. Ive had a few run ins with these situations and while I carry a weapon I don't always trust that ill see the animal before it sees me.
My girl is like he one from the first part. I got her spayed as soon as possible now she is a lot more confident then she was as a puppy. She still is nervous in new situations but we are working on it. She has even become so protective of my special needs son she alerts me to him having seizures before they happen.
I love watching this! One of the top GSD in AKC is nervy and could never just be a dog... All looks. They are kenneled and bred or looks and the only temperament they care about is being able to be handled by a judge, and I have seen the top one growl...but he still won group
That second dog came in I wanted to cry. She will be in pain from her legs when she is older. All because the breeder bred for looks not health. I would rather get a dog from this guy who sounds like he breeds for health as well as what he mentioned. By the way those two females that you got in for breeding purposes looks beautiful to me because of thier healthy limbs and movement. I would not go for the attack training but definitely for the health quality.
I have had shepherds all my life. My grandparents bred shepherds from the 60s so they have always been in my life. Good breeding always tell. New breeding techniques are horrible no ethics. Need good back ground confident strong calm.
New breeding techniques have always been around hence how bad they have got, it's just been brought into light now that people start seeking out information. For example, my grandpa who was in the military and worked with working line germans shepherds so that's what he thinks of when he thinks of german shepherds. My grandmother on the other hand thinks that a german shepherd is a german shepherd regardless of breeding because she was used to people just breeding their dogs for puppies and helping her parents raise a litter in their kitchen. As you see, even in my grandparent's eyes, breeding practices are seen differently and I'm sure it varies from breeder to breeder especially in a time that it was so accepted that "kitchen litters" are normal.
I've been binge watching your videos since my mother and sister got me a GS puppy last week as a supposed 'gift'. I'm trying to make sure she doesn't turn out a coward but mother doesn't like me running her so young. I don't even over do it. Just a 6 week old pup today. I just go walk, and make sure the pavement or concrete sidewalks aren't hot, and if they are or if she looks tired, I carry her a bit while I continue walking. The more we do this, the less I'll carry her, but she follows behind me pretty well. I sometimes don't even use the leash, but it depends on where we're walking cause of traffic conditions. She's still a puppy after all, I don't want one moment she gets distracted and then a car knocks her dead. These videos have taught me a lot and I agree with all of it, since everything seems to be logical deductions anyone with a brain-cell should arrive at. It would take a lot of ignorance not to agree with your statements about dogs. Deva doesn't have all the traits I wish she would like my last GS/doberman dog(he wasn't trained deliberately, but he knew a couple of basic commands and could read my body language well enough, and was eager to please and protect. Had I done training, he would have been an excellent personal protection dog. I miss him), but I don't think she'll be an issue. With a lot of training, she'll accomplish more that Sparky did without him being trained. She hates baths and literally cries like someone is killing her, but I think it's the water pressure from the hose that she doesn't really like, even though I don't hose her down with high pressure. What I think is great however, after I let her go she runs away from the area I bath her in, and then when I move, she comes back to me, so she doesn't take it personally. Took her to the sea the other day and I placed her in like 4 feet away from the shore, then she swam back to shore. But when I was in the water, and I called her to come to me, she cried and went in after me, which I think it great. She doesn't lack courage, but I'll help her to develop it into confidence. She's doing great with a leash, but if you tug at it even just a smudge for her to feel the tension, she pulls back and stops dead in her tracks. So I gotta work on that. I don't even pull at her since there is no reason to because she follows so well, but any slight tension annoys her. Also has a bit of separation anxiety but it's been lessening after I ran her. I will continue to run her, and make her swim. All that laziness was turned into stress with the previous owner. I don't know who the previous owner of her mother was, but you could tell it was more of a habit issue for the anxiety than anything else. Right now she's outside and she isn't crying.
So I happen to have a malinois that used to be timid and afraid because of the breeding. I have gotten her moslty out of it, more confident, and to bark on command. I'm training her to bite but she hasn't switched from "prey" mode so when someone advances with a pole or pillow... she's moving. Help?
Brad Suarez technically they’re not a recognised breed. They’re basically a large German shepherd. It’s kind of like how the shiloh shepherd and cockapoos etc won’t be noticed as a independent breed but it’s kind of more of a variation However I could be wrong - personally I don’t like them as I view them as a money making dog more than people actually care about the dogs temperament and health but I respect how other people may think differently
TheBurrito171 exactly, when shepherds were bred they were only medium sized dogs - the fact they are getting bigger and their rear end becomes more slanted can’t be doing any good
I have never been so grateful for living in Czech Republic, but the case of German shepherd makes me feel blessed. GSD here are all high energetic and brave with no exception. Even those mixed GSDs and not purebred ones are still high quality working dogs. But when I look at videos worldwide featuring this breed, it makes me sad sometimes, especially the american show lines. I see dogs that look beautiful, but that's all they do. They are scared, low drive and their personality is so weak. They may be German shepherds by their looks, but not in their heart. And I don't think anyone should breed a dog that is insecure no matter what breed it is. We need dogs who are healthy not only talking about their physical health and genetic disorders, but also in the matter of mental health and personality issues. I appreciate responsible breeders who actually care about the breed like this dude does. Good job 🐶
Good breeders need to be out there to keep the good genetics flowing. But when you're just looking for a pet and not a dog for a specific task, I agree...check the shelters first.
Agreed, but when you're looking for a dog to do some sort of work breeding does make a difference. That's why irresponsible breeding is so bad. I have a special hate for breeders who tout themselves as responsible (small operation, genetic tests, etc.) but don't breed for personality and skill, just looks.
Ha you dont know what youre talking about. Dogs are in shelters because of bad owners who dont train their dogs the most common reason for dogs being rescues and shelters is behavior not breeders. If responsible dog ownership was promoted more there would be far less dogs without homes
Great video and I am glad that the trainer is showing people what and what not to look for in getting a GSD puppy. I do not understand the downvotes but; okay.
I have a 9 month old GS, he's well socialized, not afraid of anything, but he's into everything. The word no means nothing to him, he's curious about everything, has to check everything out. He follows me everywhere and I mean everywhere. Drives me absolutely crazy. I know, I know, training. We did a personal trainer for awhile, but who can afford $100 a week for an hour of training? I can't. And I definitely can't afford to send him for 3 weeks for 3000. I am at my wits end with this dog and no, he's not the first GS I've owned. He's like having the worse 2 yr old you've ever seen, in fact, I know 2 yr olds that listen better than him.
I have a chihuahua(don't need protection, have weapons, but she's a great alarm system), she's gutsy, not afraid of storms, etc., little love bug. I'm the pitbull in our house:) I did grow up with a GS and she was a great dog. My older brother came home drunk one night and had to throw gravel at the windows to wake us up, as the dog wouldn't let him into the house(normally she liked him, so guess it was the alcohol smell). She disliked one of my uncles( I detested him too, so maybe she got the vibe from me)and would sit across the room, watching every move he made the entire time he visited. Really loved that dog.
We are about to purchase GSD. My breeder had a female that was a ball of nerves he had purchased for breeding. Not sure how it got that far, but he refused to breed her,had her spayed, and rehomed her as a family dog. I will keep this in mind if our pup shows anxiety and will refuse to breed him.
There should be an inspection system in place to control and regulate who can breed these animals to avoid all these sad results. I’ve been lucky to have my 3 GDS’s whichI love as kids. Bad breeders should be prohibited
I would like to say that my first German Shepard was like the dog in the first video and she was an amazing family pet. My current dog is like the puppy in the first video. Of course having been damped by her original owner outside my mothers home at 4 weeks did not help on top of that at 4 months she and I were both attracted by a pit bull who belonged to an irresponsible dog owner. All it takes for dogs like that is work patience and love. All dogs deserve no mater what there breading is. It is the responsibility of any family how brings a pet into there home to make shure that animal is a good fit for that home. At the end of the the irresponsible owners and breakers are the problem not the dogs, dogs with the temperament of the puppy in the first video should not have to suffer for the action of irresponsible and uneducated people.
I dont think anyone is accusing the dog, rather the breeder. It is a family's responsibility to make sure theyre a good fit for the dog, but it is ALSO AND MOST IMPORTANTLY the breeder's responsibility to ensure it is a good fit too! Like they said in the video, this is a good dog, shes done nothing wrong but she should NOT be used for breeding. That's all they're talking about.
Thats sad. The breeder clearly wasnt considering the standard when breeding. Those pasterns and hocks are genetic faults. Not to mention that poor thing being afraid of her shadow. Im glad there are places like yours that can help give that dog the best version of herself.
American show lines have a frog squat. Even German show lines have their own disasters. They've got the horrible banana backs. Bottom line never breed dogs just for looks. Especially working breeds should be of strong mind and body.
This goes for any breed not just GSDs It took me two years of research to decide that the Cane Corso was the right dog for me and it took me an additional 2 years to find a quality breeder. I'm hoping to be able to put down a deposit on a pup this year the fact is most people aren't going to put in that much work to get a dog they see an ad in the news paper saying AKC reg Shepard puppies $700 and jump on it either not knowing what they are getting themselves into or they just want a cheep dog. Well you get what you pay for going to a quality breeder and spending 2k or more is way better then getting a poorly breed dog that your going to have to put down due to fear aggression or having to take to the dog animal shelter due to other reasons that steam from being afraid of the world
For those upset at “don’t talk down to the dogs”
I think he’s saying let’s set dogs up for success and don’t breed neurotic issues into a line. It’s not fair to anyone /any dog.
Exactly, people are to worry about their feelings they forget the pain those neurotic dogs go everyday, afraid of everything and in physical pain tnx to the "looks standards"
Also a lot of dogs bite not due to aggression but die to nerves.
Exactly. He’s not saying the dog needs to be put down. He’s not saying it doesn’t deserve to be loved. He’s saying that this should never be allowed to happen in the first place.
Well said👍👍👍🇮🇪
This is why I’m a huge working line person. I like a smart, brave, workable dog with strong nerves as well as a solid temperament. Breeding for color is just awful. That poor show line... scared... a nervous wreck
My Saoirse’s a work line GSD and she’s absolutely wonderful! 😁 She full black and kind and energetic!
You can still get neurotic dogs from working lines
Depends - In Germany show lines still have to demonstrate the ability to work and only dogs achieving IPO (not called this anymore) can breed. Mine is 50% working/ show line from Germany and has IPO champs in both lines.
First that is by far NOT A SHOW DOG you really need to educate yourself I know many "SHOW LINE " dog that are working dogs if a dog doesn't have even temperament and stable it can't enter the ring it also has to be a good example of the breed that has none of them I'm privilege to have a Maligator that can run circles around a lot of WORKING and SHOW dogs and then let him play with the children I don't need or want to do protection work with him he will do what he needs to when confronted with that as my Bully did
@@theodorehyatt1782 Agreed. I use mine for herding.
The GSD’s original use. Put a herd in a designated field with no fence and train the dog to keep them from leaving/eating the crops in neighboring fields, whilst protecting from predators. (without a person present). If they stray or go missing - its a fail. If they eat crops you will be sued. Dogs have to be smart and autonomous to do this. They also have to distinguish what is a threat - can’t have them attacking a person or farm dog walking past.
IPO works with the breeds natural inherent instincts. They are wired to protect their charges (be it livestock or people) and guard them. I smile when people tell me their shep will let people in the home - but not let them leave. A bit like collies nipping at heels. I think Mal’s are the same.
Here is a GSD, working in its original capacity. ua-cam.com/video/-UgoCfNS3qk/v-deo.html&ab_channel=UlfKintzel
“This is a dog that has NOTHING TO PASS TO FUTURE GENERATIONS”
🤣🤣🤣 can we say the same thing to humans
I said the same about myself 😂 No one needs my nerves!
@@ErinWilke but you have a great sense of humor, I love that! 😆
I own a German shepherd male and just from watching this video I know I can never breed him thanks for educating me . Will work on helping my dog become more confident though, so he can have a good life.
Good stuff
Did he show signs at 11weeks
Mine too 😭😭😭😭
Well said!!!!! Breeding for function is almost a lost art 💯 Great video and visual demonstration 👌🙌
Check out the Lycan Shepherd project. Chadde over there is doing incredible work. He's just finishing raising up the most recent litter.
@@mup8661 💯 I’m doing the SUPERDOG ENS program with my litter as well🔥
Man that second dog's back legs look TERRIBLE
Looks like their training for a big lick 🐎 show , rear legs all squat in the rear !
Show breeders seem to be ruining a lot of breeds. They just go for pretty when choosing which dogs to breed. German shepherds bred for show now have ruined hips, so the back legs are so bent when walking. Show corgis and weiner dogs are now bred to have longer backs, leading to back problems. Pugs, boxers and other short muzzle dogs have been bred for show have had their muzzles so shortened that they have real breathing problems. And pugs can have their eyes pop out!
So no matter what breed of dog you buy, make sure it is from a responsible breeder!
yarnpower another breed is the cavalier, I saw my first traditional looking cav at work last week and she was gorgeous. There are so many breeds that you can look back on in paintings and see for what they really were, it’s sad to see the dogs of today but unfortunately lot of people also don’t want to accept there’s a problem
Is there an organization like the akc but for working lines? That would be awesome.
Dam breed judges keep rewarding these screwed up freaks, which drives what people breed if they want to win. In my breed, if you bring in a proper dog, they "look out of place" and lose. My last male had a superb body, he could work all day, and was fearless, but he had a short coat so would never win in a breed ring. But hell, he was one dam good working dog, even had great herding instinct. He was the kind of dog I want. His breeder had a kennel full of dogs like him. Unfortunately, she is elderly and doesn't breed anymore. The line doesn't carry on because her dogs fit the standard, so "looked out of place," and so, would not win. A well built dog does not have ears directly in line with the front legs. This breeder was also a breed judge. She got reamed when she found a proper dog and put it up - it looked out of place.
So crazy. I love dogs and honestly I rarely see a purebred German Shepherd nowadays even in the last five years that doesn’t have hip dysplasia even as a puppy effing sad
True that! My family loves pugs, and we only get them from the same breeder. She breeds “retro pugs” that has slightly longer muzzles and a better build overall. My pug only has problems breathing if it’s hot outside and he’s running like a maniac. I think breeder research and breed research are very important!
My current dog is the worst I’ve ever owned. Afraid of his own shadow. He’s beautiful but useless. The breeder wants me to breed him. I couldn’t believe it. He will never sire anything. He is fine as a pet and that’s it. Glad to hear you say it.
Gene Miller It’s amazing that you have the sense to know not to pass on his genetic flaws 💯 Most people get wrapped up in the whole “but I love him so much and want one of his puppies” BS lol Too many “breeders” these days just want the breeder title and the coin that comes from selling any kind of puppies to anyone who will pay... Kudos to you!!! 💯 🙌 🙏 👏
And the dam breed judges will put up a dog that is shying away, or frantically spinning, etc because it's the prettiest on. Irks me to no end. Our dog club puts on a specialty show once a year. We changed to an indoor site. People of my chosen breed won't enter because "it's too much for their dogs," all the noise and activity. They don't take it well when I tell them to breed a better dog, that the dog should be unphased by this. Our club also puts on an agility show. Those dogs are unphased by a noisy building. These people will not buy a dog without a stable temperament. An unstable or unwilling to work dog is crap. One of my friends continues to breed pretty dogs that won't work, that freezes up. The last bitch she has from this line is sterile. Thank God!
cmozoo wow... couldn’t agree more!!! these kind of “breeders” are way too plentiful!! You want to keep any of the breeds pleasing to look at but when looks override function, health, and temperament it’s a slippery slope and since so many people buy the first cute puppy they see, with no research of the breed itself or the breeder, they’re none the wiser until later on when their “expensive pedigreed” puppy is spazzing out and already limping at age 2 from arthritis and bad hips... The ONLY way to change this and to put bad breeders/puppy mills out of business is to hit them where it hurts most right in their pocket book!! They don’t care about fines or probation because they make so much money off the dogs it’s wort it financially to keep breeding.. absolutely sickening...☠️🤬😑🙄💯
@@tasha_111_ I agree with you 100 percent, my current German shepard is picture perfect, smart, obedient, and all round a good girl. The breeder is a very good person and I plan to mate her with another very well tempered German shepherd
Even if you breed him, your going to get some warriors out of his bunch I betcha
I am guilty of making excuses. Time to unlearn all that I have learned.
Yoda...
I bought my first GSD 3 months ago and I absolutely love him. He has a wonderful demeanor and came with AKC papers. He loves people and can’t wait to greet every person he sees. I love that about him. Nothing sound wise has phased him, thunder,lightening, loud construction he’s just not phased unless it’s my roomba vacuum. Took him a time or two to get used to that and all he wants to do is play with it.
I’ve been told I should breed him. However, I’m not a breeder and when getting him those were not my intentions and still aren’t. I got him for a family pet and that’s it. Too many people see dollar signs with these dogs, I’m not one of them and people really do need to consider what goes into breeding dogs. People need to quit being selfish.
I am grinning widely as I read your post. So cool, Christine!!!
Same here mine is still scared of the vacuum but is already protective of my mom and gf at 8 months he’s a big sweetheart
As a long year German Shepherd owner, I cried inside, the second I saw the 2nd dog walking in...
Me too, actually I did cry.
Why?
I'm not a breeder and I can just see the difference I got my baby girl for a local breeder after watching this I now know I cant breed her it's sad. It's the character of the dog the lack of confidence you can see in the second dog yes she maybe a happy pup but fair from what the intent of the breed is german shepherds are an overwhelming confident breed that's why I always wanted one
Corovus why?
@@Aurelisk her legs indicate bad breeding which results in lifelong pain. Also indicate inbreeding. All for looks. Breeders that breed for looks and color will breed father to their daughters which is now banned but breeders then breed grandpa to granddaughter which also makes them more inclined for health difficulties more inclined for catching diseases.
Learned this the hard way. My first GSD was an American show line. He was very fearful of people and the trainer said he was dangerous because of his temperament. He passed away last year and I bought a Czech/DDR bloodline GSD from Czech Republic and he’s super with my kids loves people is super confident but loves to work has extreme drive and can go from doing bite work to fetch and playing with the kids in an instant. I’ll never buy an American again. He was also a lot easier to train because of his drive. He picked up bite work immediately along with anything I’ve taught him. I’ve also grown to love his black sable coat and none traditional GSD look the show lines tend to have.
How much did you pay?
There are dozens of great American GSD breeders out there. You just have to dig.
I'm a breeder as well and I totally agree with you. It is the responsibility of the breeder to produce the best dog you can and good temperament is part of your over all goal.
Why do you think this is such a recent problem? I'm a veterinarian with 20 years of experience. We didn't used to see shepherds like this. Even the ones from bad breeders had reasonable temperaments. They had crappy joints, and you got the occasional aggressive one, but for the most part, they were confident and social. Now, almost all of them are anxious and fearful. It's sad.
@@deeanna8448 It's sad I agree. Unfortunately a lot of breeders don't follow the code of ethics. They are in it for the money and temperaments be damn. If you continue a bad breeding the genetics will be passed on. A good breeder will recognize this and will work to eliminate that bad trait.
So what do you do with the puppies you deem bad?
@@mazing32able They usually will be sold as a pet quality dog with contract stating they are/will be neutered and spayed.
Sadly I understand that it is possibly how you make a living but I wish they would put more restrictions on breeding. Look at it this way guys like you would not have issues because you’re a good breeder and would not come across any licensing problems. But irresponsible breeders would have their license polled and no longer be able to breed if they continued to suck. Just one man’s opinion though
The German trainer's words of the dog reaching back to find the courage to go forward brought tears to my eyes! I am so going to use this in my own life!!
That poor dog looks a mess. Shes walking like an athritietic old lady
Nice video!
I want to mention, a breeder can breed both good and bad dogs. My dad has an amazing german shepherd from a local breeder, who apparently bred for everything but temperament. Even though he trained working dogs 🤷
My first red flag when we went to pick out the pup was when the breeder discourage us from interacting with the 2 puppies before chosing. He wanted us to pick the one we thought was pretty! He scoffed at the idea that we should care about their personality.
We had been taught years ago that the best pick is when the dog chooses you, so we stuck to our guns. When the breeder brought them out I was in shock because we realized this guy had never interacted with them outside of feeding time. They had never played in the grass before. The one pup was absolutely terrified and ran back into the kennel; he also wouldn't get close enough for me or my dad to touch him. Duke on the other hand was the complete opposite, and when he was tuckered out he curled up between my dad's feet and slept.
As the breeder watched Duke interact with us he joked about not letting us take him ... A year later he tried to buy him back from my dad so he could train and breed him.
I'm glad we had been taught by our first breeder (golden retrievers) to not choose by looks. I think about if we had gotten the other puppy, especially as first time german shepherd owners, how dangerous it could have gotten. I hope the breeder didn't keep him to breed and that he went to an experienced home who could help him. Unfortunately I doubt that happened :(
I had activily trained with my golden for 8 years. Having Duke forced me to change my methods and learn to train based on personality and not a one size fits all approach. German shepherds are amazing dogs, but they aren't for everyone, especially as a simple pet. We probably shouldn't have gotten one (Duke would have thrived with a working trainer) but he's my dad's joy (and pest) and my dad is his. (It's funny watching them sass each other 😂)
Great to know!! Thanks!
I would have left. I never would’ve gotten a puppy from that breeder. So many red flags. Your dad got lucky with the dog he chose.
This is super helpful! I would love to see videoes like this but with puppies around 8 weeks. I think that would help people that are picking out young puppies for their family. Both good and bad things to look for.
Just made a massive mistake with ours
Unless you are someone like Haz, you should not be picking out your puppy!! You do not have the experience to do so.
A high quality breeder will pick the dog for you. They will have watched the dog since it was born. They will recognize the good and the bad in each puppy. And they will be able to pair you with the right puppy.
Or tell you that honestly none of these pups meet your needs, and will have you wait for another litter.
You can’t tell from that age regardless of what assessments say.
I feel like this issue also applies to most doodle breedings. People are attracted to the doodle fad or style but every doodle is a complete wildcard, coat wise and personality wise.
Yes it does, our cockapoo is smart but stubborn.
100% correct
Very well said! It is all about GENETICS! I have Malinois another high drive dog and is very social! More people need to see these videos!
I have a malinois too theyre amazing dogs
I got ddr german shepherd bro
Gamers Sight how much was your ddr
I've been working with dogs for over 20 years with pretty good success. But this past year when I adopted a German Shepherd/Rottweiler cross and to my dismay he turned out to be fear aggressive despite all the socialization and hard work I put into him. I've been taking it personally, like somewhere I dropped the ball but hearing what you've said has opened my eyes. I hope you have a how to video on how you handle a dog like this so that my fussy Ragnar can have something close to a normal life like the rest of my dogs. Thanks for sharing!
The Woof Pack I get dogs who are ordered to be put down due to aggression. The last one was a Rottweiler who the owners couldn’t even handle and he growled at them. After 4 weeks, he wouldn’t even bark at strangers. He ended up being a fantastic family pet who I placed with a family with kids eventually, and has been with them for nearly 2 years now. There are ways to undo what’s wrong especially fear aggression.
@@hellabella8295 Teach me senpai! lol Our Ragnar has bit my brother 3 times, my father in law, my brother in law and a family friend. He's not aggressive to me, my husband nor our children and my father or our cat and other dogs BUT every thing else he feels he must kill it before it kills him. We got him fixed hoping that would help and we've been working with him still but there's barely any improvement... 😓
@@The_Woof_Pack neutering really doesn’t make a difference ( yes I know a vet will tell you it does).
He needs to learn that doing that is NOT allowed. There has to be consequences for bad behavior.
He can be successfully retrained by a proper trainer. I’ve done it. It really works.
One thing that I spotted when she came in and after you had the woman pet her, you got close to her and she softly snapped at you.
Yes I noticed that too
I'm sure the main interactions they (that particular dog and that trainer) have are bite training. She probably assumed she was there to bite him but held back after she realized he wasn't wearing the bite sleeve on his arm.
@@JW-bw8nj idk she if is fear biting people I doubt they are working with her on bite training rn but maybe 🤷🏻♀️ it'd be kinda irresponsible imo.
Thank you for saying something. Another breeder I follow has always felt the same way about looking out for temperament. TEMPERAMENT IS SO IMPORTANT. And if someone is breeding just for looks please run the other way and don't buy!
"it's how you raise them!"- this shelter/rescue rant has way too much traction in the dog world. Need more videos like this to counter act that movement. Temperament is largely genetic
Then shelters get young, shy dogs, and someone wants to adopt one, and they can't be adopted out cause of kids, or other dogs, or cats...your dog shouldn't be like that. They should be socialized and shelters should be responsible for putting these young animals through proper socialization instead of instantly demonizing a family for having kids, or another dog. This causes animals to get euthanized. Every shepherd I have applied for at my local shelters, I have either been instantly denied, or just ignored. I've worked at rescues with damaged and shy dogs, and I know how to get them to not be that way anymore. it's just truly sad, because while I'd love to rescue a shepherd that was abandoned for no fault of it's own, I'm finding that it will probably be next to impossible to do because shelters hide behind their poor methods and then get mad when someone buys from a breeder because they want a specific dog.
It makes me think of videos of pitbulls used for fighting and they’re like “so friendly with people despite everything that’s happened 🥺” and I’m like this is a breed characteristic, not the dog rationalizing and recognizing a rescuer. You’re hugging it and poking it and giving it shots it doesn’t understand you’re there to help it’s just the dogs personality. I have two pits and I love them I’m just saying the personification of dog behavior is annoying
O how you raise them has nothing to do with it?
Shelters ironically can be the biggest threat to dogs
@@louiekim824 I didn't say how you raise a dog has nothing to do with it. That would be just as ridiculous as saying how you raise them has everything to do with it.
Poor dog. Why would someone want to create an animal that lives its life in fear and misery?
Which dog was living in fear and misery?
@@Plump_Lil_Monk The second dog. The one that was almost too scared to walk through the door.
@@mansondevil33 I wouldn't go as far as to say she was living in fear and misery. She looks like a friendly submissive dog.. it's just her personality.
@@Plump_Lil_Monk I don't think we were watching the same video. The first and third dogs that he showed are what a normal GSD is supposed to act like, they're definitely happy and confident dogs. The second one is basically the dog equivalent of an agoraphobic - I'd be pretty miserable too if I was living with agoraphobia.
@@Plump_Lil_Monk Denial 🙄
I agree!! people need to stop breeding only for looks and money! There is so much more to have a good Fundamentally and healthy dog! I have a German Shepherd male he is so not scared and he is brave when need be so I get what he is saying completely.
I'm still waiting for a show breeder to explain why they breed them to walk on their hocks and why that's superior to ALL the other working breeds that walk normally. Haven't gotten an explanation yet!!!
A while ago, I watched a video about the breeding and all that in the dog shows that the people that breed GS like that think that's how GS should look like and that it's beautiful to see. They also say that police/army force/service GS that have straight backs and looks more healthy aren't true GS.
It's disgusting really with how the show/breeders of GS are towards their dogs.
They make weird arguments like how it makes them better at herding..... despite biomechanics saying otherwise
Find a nonAKC breeder. Someone who breeds to FCI standards. They don’t breed dogs like that.
Agreed with everything he said. That female puppy is scared to death and biting at ppl.
I have a Pomeranian. Why am I watching this 😂
A pom should still have a confident social personality. They shouldn't have genetic anxiety.
K P I agree with you but I don’t agree that the methods would transfer to a little Pom !
A Pomeranian I know has the same fearful nature, and would be benefit from the same methods of training - it's not breed specific. What is seen in the first dog and third dog is for protection training, not your average pet, only demonstrating that just by nature they can cope with higher level of stress indicative of the breed normally.
Me too! 😅🤪
Ray Ray all methods are applicable to all breeds
please keep putting your educational videos on here for the dumb dog breeders that keep making me same dumb mistakes and making all these excuses the end up into a mountain of nothing love your dogs love your videos can't wait to purchase one for myself
The two you've shown are everything that is wrong with American showlines.
They’re from canada
@@XxAzureNekoxX Canada is in North America
@@andrewwelch5017 no shit
@@XxAzureNekoxX I was just about to edit my comment, I sounded like a jerk. What I meant is that the OP was highlighting the difference between European and “American”, meaning North American.
Grew up on a farm and raised many dogs, Im not a trainer or kennel. On the farm dogs like those attacking, those type of dogs would go after livestock without lots training, might be good put on a chain and used for running coyotes but those types would often bite livestock and visitors and I see em on chains all the time cuz owners had prob with those types eating livestock and biting where as a different temperament and breeds will ride with horses, sheep, leave chickens alone with way less training and all the dogs presented here would be too much training time for ranchers and farmers. I noticed they were never let of the leash,,, that signals Problems big time to a ranchers, I couldnt give one of those dogs away, written of as coyote dogs.
As someone who owns border collies is that they have the same issues, shyness, fearful, and timid. I bought a dog from a breeder, shes none of that! Confident, loving, and stunning. Have good herdiing drive and is overly willing to please. Hes repeating that breedering, im definitely getting a puppy again from that man.
Can you name drop the breeder please? :)
So nice to hear!
I have a cat yet I’m watching this
Same
This is probably my favorite comment for whatever reason
It's been so hard for me to find a cat. "What questions do you have?" I want a mouser. Female. Neutered. With claws. Older is better. Knows the kill bite and preferably feral where it has had to hunt for its survival. I'm aware that a happy cat is a happy hunter and starving them doesn't help. "...."
@@TiroDvD leave some cat food outside, you'll find your cat that evening
@@TiroDvD Look for a slim, fit cat. Try a fishing pole style toy to check for high pretty drive and agility.
I want to 😢 cry...that second gsd😭😭her back and legs!! Omg
That second dog doesn't even look healthy. I mean, look at that back, those hips. How have showlines got here? People, honestly, if you're selecting a dog for its breed, compare whatever adults the breeder has to stray muts. Muts are naturally selected for survival, not looks. Would you ever see a mut like that second dog on the street and not think it was sick? Not think it had had an accident?
Please keep these videos coming!!! When I hear someone talk about a dog's color or markings= I realize they don't know what they're talking about...
Too many folks are incapable of understanding what's being said....smh
I agree
Its hard to understand until you own one of these basket case dogs that some breeder bred. Ive owned one now so I can understand. If I had never owned such a dog I would maybe unable to understand coming from a point of ignorance
I have watched both parts 1 & 2 now & already learned so much. I've watched dozens of trainers on here, tiktok etc...but could never fully absorb what they were discussing. Videos leave me wanting more, like I want to learn as much as possible now lol. Thank you for your content, sir
In video number one, you mentioned helping her build confidence, mind if I ask how you go about doing so? And not just related to GSD's, but any dog breed.
Oh, I fell in love with that third you brought in! Awesome pup!
Great video that more people need to be aware about. If only more people understood the importance of genetics.
I rescued my first dog at the last week of 2018, he's 20 months currently and despite being a shepherd mix he has a lot of the traits of a full blood GSD, he's over friendly unless/until he feels someone is suspicious/threating to us or our home then it's guarding mode warning barks and all, it turns back into i love everybody the moment we say the person is ok, love him to bits
The way he said "Bring her in!" made me laugh for some reason!!!
I've experience exactly what you are discussing to the point now, that when choosing a breeder/bloodline for my next puppy, I can pretty much screen them on the phone and definitely on a picture. I don't even have to see the dog working anymore. A breeder was referred to me, one look at a picture of the male and not just no, hell no. The misfits deserve to be loved and have a good life - but yes, not for breeding. My home pack is 2 x pound rescue dogs and one purebred GSD.
Well done video sir, right down to not pressuring the more timid dog. Just something ya don't do. Much respect.
I was training as a beginner and I noticed within breeds that phenotype seems to correlate with genotype. For example a golden with a big square head is more relaxed and trainable than one with a thin head and muzzle. Or this very specific looking dog that’s small, short coated, cream colored (may be a mutt I’ve never seen a breed for it) is always 110% of the time a nervous wreck and you can’t get it to do anything. Have you noticed that as well? You can look at a dog and see the physical characteristics and just know the temperament?
Hi
Nice demonstration. I want to know how to check / test hip & elbow displacia while buying GSD puppy ????
You can't really with a pup. You have to make sure you get a puppy from someone that tests both parents or they were tested before they were imported if that is the case. Check the pedigree to see the grandparents and on where also tested, you can find this online, you only need the dogs registered name. If they don't have this or not willing to show you, walk. Preliminary hips/elbows can be done sooner, but in order to be certified by the OFA (Orthopedic Foundation for Animals) dogs must be 2 years old. Mind you this is not a guarantee your pup will have good hips, but it stacks the deck more in your favor.
This is rapidly becoming my favourite dog related channel!
The knowledge and insight passed on here, is absolute gold!
I worked in a dog rescue. We had the county seize 27 german shepards from a breeder. I worked with those dogs for months just to be able to handle n walk on a lead. I had everyone of them spayed/neutered.
That pup in part 1 could she get more confidence by teaming her with one of these two healthy females you shown? Just curious. My uncle train horses for wagon pulling and when he trains a younger horse he puts the horse with an older fully trained horse to help the younger one learn. I know different animals just curious if the technique would work as well with dogs. I know the pup it is due to genetics but something has to be done to help her become more safe for a family.
My german shepard mix rescue is like that dog in strange situations (no fear aggression though and is normal around us at home, fine with all handling by us). She is like a different more confident dog with our male german shepard mix (half a year younger male). She is clearly dominant and bosses him around, but is still dependant on him being around for confidence. The shyness is clearly in her genes, but she also had bad experiences with other dogs bullying her. The male is naturally curious and outgoing, more like the 2 other dogs shown here. The female even refuses to go on walks without the male. Teaming up with another dog really did wonders for her.
Dog and horse brains are actually very close in the structure sooo that’s not a bad idea
Awesome video! My 10 week old I had for a week is amazing! She’s so smart, loves every one. Nothing too much scares her except dirt bikes and Honda’s back firing. I live in Philly! But I can tell she’s going to be amazing! Never had a dog so easy to train! Love this video and channel!
I’m so glad I flew down to Alabama to pick up my pup and paid $2K. My GSD’s parents were IPO3 and it shows in my little pup. Very very confident! Bites a little but can’t blame him yet when he’s only 14 weeks old (a lot less then when we was 8weeks). Anywho this is why you buy from a reputable breeder and NEVER Craigslist.
It sounds like you have a nice pup with good prey drive, which a good GSD should have. You are going through the "furry alligator" stage, very normal. Redirect his biting to toys and not on you. By the time he's done teething 6 months or so if you have done your job that all goes away. And 100X yes, responsible breeders NEVER sell puppies on Craigslist, most have waiting lists to get pups.
Jordan K thanks for the advice! First puppy ever so big learning curve. Waiting till he’s 8 months old to begin his formal explosive scent detection training for LE.
Okay, I watched the first and now this 2nd video. This is our puppy. Exactly like the pup in first video. What do we do?
Love your puppy but never buy one that again because you’re supporting bad breeders 😕
It will be an uphill battle, but consistent training is key. If you have the resources, hiring a professional trainer experienced in the breed and these type of issues will be even better. As just a pet, with training, you can manage them to be a functional member of the family/society still and accept the dog's issues as they are. Just going forward to be cautious of supporting breeders producing the same type of dog for your next one, and warning others to do so.
Can you help with some other breeds besides GS? I have czechoslovakian wolfdog and I know it is normal for them to be cautious and in "flight" mode. As you said, they reach into their ancestry and his is wolf ancestry. And wolves are known to be timid. But i see that all this world we live in is too stressfull for him. Is there a way I can help him to feel little less intimidated by surroundings and new things?
Bad breeders are like a sister and brother making babies
I've also noticed that when I have to hand raise dog's, they're ALLLLOT more social, seem to learn faster and aren't affected negatively at all. They have no issue being handled & are easier to put onto a schedule because they've BEEN on a routine basically their whole life
My Husky was like the first one, confident, and doing what she was supposed to do
Now I’m feeling blessed to have a genetically great Dog. He’s a German Shepherd X w/ minimal training. He knows the basic tricks of course but he is so smart ! He has a pretty big vocabulary and he definitely has that prey drive and social/environmental confidence. 🙏🙂 & he’s very gentle. 💕💕
I always complain and warn people about Poodle cross breeds. The Poodle is a hound, a hunting dog. It's tied with German Shepard as second smartest dog depending on the tests. That bright, aggressive, assertive, hunting instinct exists even in the Toy breed. Cross that with dogs that have easy temperaments and owners that spoil their animals; and it's just a recipe for neurosis on the animal.
Yes! People do not realize that they're basically locking a hound mindset into a lap dog life. There's a reason so many of the lap dog breeds and crosses are yappy nervous little overexcited things. A lot of them spark from hunting dogs. They were bred to be small so that they could go into burrows and such, and then people figured they could be more of a "cat-like" pet. Not to mention a lot of them are simply bored, and bored dogs become destructive and neurotic, because their brain is just going unused. I'm not saying to teach them all to "work", but if you want a small dog to keep around, you need proper play, proper games, and proper exercise.
One of my neighbours has a standard poodle in a two bedroom apartment. They walk her three to four times a day, but just enough that she goes to the loo, and then wonder why she has a blast destroying their furniture while their gone and running about the house to the point of toppling over things. Because it's a poodle! Their solution was to stuff her in a cage while they're gone, so she got loud.
Since this is 2020 and I'm working from home a lot, this became notorious because I can hear her all day long. So I offered to walk her one extra time a day (we both need the exercise, I need the sanity). I've been taking her on longer walks and to an unnoficial dog park where I can have her off the leash. She does the zoomies, she plays fetch, and I allow her to do nothing but what she wants for about 20-30 minutes, while I read or something. Then, there's some obedience training on the way back home, so that she winds down. This progressed to her just spending several hours in my (even smaller) apartment, where she hangs by my feet or in the balcony, and gets to distract herself with a couple of toys that actually make her work for the treat. She's not the perfect urban dog, yet, but none of the new kitchen chairs have been bitten. Damn, I miss having a dog.
I have no idea if cat genetics work the same way but i took my unsocialized cat (born after covid so she never sees any family or friends come over) to the vet for her ear today and she immediately left her crate when i opened it and once she was done inspecting the room she warmed up to the staff and let them all pet her and was extremely warm and friendly. It made me think of this video. Shes has a great social temperament and handles strangers extremely well. 😛🤷🏼♀️
I have an 8 year old border collie that acts just like this. He was reactive young and even acted better off a leash than on one. He definitely had a free streak and even though he was in tune with my commands, he was not mentally sound enough to hang out with any dog as big or larger than himself. Now at 8 years old he finally understands that fighting other dogs is pointless but when he was young he was incredibly bitey to dogs while leashed, and tried to herd them sometimes when off leash.
The third dog he said wasn't the most pretty - but I think she was gorgeous!
Look at 1st508th Airborne. That guy knows how to breed dogs.
Hell yeah, love that dude
That guys fuckin great man. Love his videos
@10:10
Oddly enough, I find that to be the best looking dog of the group. Maybe I have weird preferences.
I definitely thought she was absolutely gorgeous. Just as beautiful as the first dog. But I also prefer short hair coats.😃
Very good information. Ive always wondered about the social temperament and why some dogs would just shut down. Definitely agree with not breeding dogs like that. Love your channel. Came across it by accident.
I am so glad I found this channel. Thank you so much for such great, educative content
I wish I could like this more than once!!! Thank you for passing on your knowledge! I’m so glad someone is speaking up on this ❤️❤️
How do you build confidence with a dog? My dog (who is a backyard bred mixed breed with high amount of border collie). I've owned her since she was 8 weeks and socialized her extensively but she's still shy and has a few phobias. I like that you say that you aren't in the business of emotionally abusing the dogs so I know that you might have techniques I could/would use.
Awww I noticed the behavior of the second dog right away. But my goodness she seems like a little sweetheart!
Absolutely genetics plays a HUGE role... it is not always a result of poor handling. My sis got 3 Rottweiler pups, all from the same litter, they lived on the same property, same food, etc. Two are still alive, though their hips are really bad, but while they are protective, they are not aggressive. The third was shot when less than two years of age. She started killing chickens. My folks got her a muzzle (basket type--she could open her mouth to pant/bark/drink water), and she learned to take the chickens to the ditch and drown them. Killed 8 chickens this way while my Mom was milking the cow. They decided to keep her in a yard, reinforced the fence to keep her in securely. One of the lambs wandered by the fence, the dog grabbed the lamb and pulled her through the fence, intestines first. Didn't kill the lamb, left it bleeding and bleating in the dust until my nephew found it and got my dad, who shot the lamb first (to end its pain), then shot the dog. He figured if she was that intent on causing harm, it was only a matter of time before it was a child rather than poultry or livestock. Again, the other two Rottweilers are still alive and have never killed an animal of any kind.
Is there a good method for picking a puppy? Just found your channel so I'm not sure if you've already addressed this. Definitely looking for a working dog, we got a doberman but he's timid and lazy. Good dog for my wife and kids but it sucks that I can't use him how I originally intended. Looking for a new puppy in the next year or so but I need to learn how to be very picky. Dog should be able to have drive against people but primarily large animals like cougars. Ive had a few run ins with these situations and while I carry a weapon I don't always trust that ill see the animal before it sees me.
thanks very good info I wish that when i get a german Shepred i get one like your dog i love the temperament of the first one.
My mal and a friend's GSD are afraid of nothing! Except toenail clips🤣🤣🤣
My girl is like he one from the first part. I got her spayed as soon as possible now she is a lot more confident then she was as a puppy. She still is nervous in new situations but we are working on it. She has even become so protective of my special needs son she alerts me to him having seizures before they happen.
I love watching this! One of the top GSD in AKC is nervy and could never just be a dog... All looks. They are kenneled and bred or looks and the only temperament they care about is being able to be handled by a judge, and I have seen the top one growl...but he still won group
Will an anxious pup's parents be anxious? Can you tell, generally, how a puppy will be as an adult by observing its parents?
Seeing those imported dogs in action is something elsee 😍 gives me more faith in the good breeders of the world 👍
The absolute clip of the back legs on the second dog.. what a disgrace
That second dog came in I wanted to cry. She will be in pain from her legs when she is older. All because the breeder bred for looks not health. I would rather get a dog from this guy who sounds like he breeds for health as well as what he mentioned. By the way those two females that you got in for breeding purposes looks beautiful to me because of thier healthy limbs and movement. I would not go for the attack training but definitely for the health quality.
I have had shepherds all my life. My grandparents bred shepherds from the 60s so they have always been in my life. Good breeding always tell. New breeding techniques are horrible no ethics. Need good back ground confident strong calm.
New breeding techniques have always been around hence how bad they have got, it's just been brought into light now that people start seeking out information. For example, my grandpa who was in the military and worked with working line germans shepherds so that's what he thinks of when he thinks of german shepherds. My grandmother on the other hand thinks that a german shepherd is a german shepherd regardless of breeding because she was used to people just breeding their dogs for puppies and helping her parents raise a litter in their kitchen. As you see, even in my grandparent's eyes, breeding practices are seen differently and I'm sure it varies from breeder to breeder especially in a time that it was so accepted that "kitchen litters" are normal.
I've been binge watching your videos since my mother and sister got me a GS puppy last week as a supposed 'gift'. I'm trying to make sure she doesn't turn out a coward but mother doesn't like me running her so young. I don't even over do it. Just a 6 week old pup today. I just go walk, and make sure the pavement or concrete sidewalks aren't hot, and if they are or if she looks tired, I carry her a bit while I continue walking. The more we do this, the less I'll carry her, but she follows behind me pretty well. I sometimes don't even use the leash, but it depends on where we're walking cause of traffic conditions. She's still a puppy after all, I don't want one moment she gets distracted and then a car knocks her dead.
These videos have taught me a lot and I agree with all of it, since everything seems to be logical deductions anyone with a brain-cell should arrive at.
It would take a lot of ignorance not to agree with your statements about dogs.
Deva doesn't have all the traits I wish she would like my last GS/doberman dog(he wasn't trained deliberately, but he knew a couple of basic commands and could read my body language well enough, and was eager to please and protect. Had I done training, he would have been an excellent personal protection dog. I miss him), but I don't think she'll be an issue. With a lot of training, she'll accomplish more that Sparky did without him being trained.
She hates baths and literally cries like someone is killing her, but I think it's the water pressure from the hose that she doesn't really like, even though I don't hose her down with high pressure. What I think is great however, after I let her go she runs away from the area I bath her in, and then when I move, she comes back to me, so she doesn't take it personally. Took her to the sea the other day and I placed her in like 4 feet away from the shore, then she swam back to shore. But when I was in the water, and I called her to come to me, she cried and went in after me, which I think it great. She doesn't lack courage, but I'll help her to develop it into confidence.
She's doing great with a leash, but if you tug at it even just a smudge for her to feel the tension, she pulls back and stops dead in her tracks. So I gotta work on that. I don't even pull at her since there is no reason to because she follows so well, but any slight tension annoys her.
Also has a bit of separation anxiety but it's been lessening after I ran her. I will continue to run her, and make her swim. All that laziness was turned into stress with the previous owner. I don't know who the previous owner of her mother was, but you could tell it was more of a habit issue for the anxiety than anything else. Right now she's outside and she isn't crying.
In Europe normally you cannot get a pup less than 8 weeks old. 6 seems to young for being separated from mother and siblings.
So I happen to have a malinois that used to be timid and afraid because of the breeding. I have gotten her moslty out of it, more confident, and to bark on command. I'm training her to bite but she hasn't switched from "prey" mode so when someone advances with a pole or pillow... she's moving. Help?
I would love to hear this guy's take on the new King Shepherd breed.
King shepherds aren't new but I'd love to hear it too
@@Mikesbike I think they were only recognized as a breed in the 90's? I could be wrong.
Brad Suarez technically they’re not a recognised breed. They’re basically a large German shepherd. It’s kind of like how the shiloh shepherd and cockapoos etc won’t be noticed as a independent breed but it’s kind of more of a variation
However I could be wrong - personally I don’t like them as I view them as a money making dog more than people actually care about the dogs temperament and health but I respect how other people may think differently
Bad I bet, its just a vanity breed making too big dog for no reason.
TheBurrito171 exactly, when shepherds were bred they were only medium sized dogs - the fact they are getting bigger and their rear end becomes more slanted can’t be doing any good
I have never been so grateful for living in Czech Republic, but the case of German shepherd makes me feel blessed. GSD here are all high energetic and brave with no exception. Even those mixed GSDs and not purebred ones are still high quality working dogs. But when I look at videos worldwide featuring this breed, it makes me sad sometimes, especially the american show lines. I see dogs that look beautiful, but that's all they do. They are scared, low drive and their personality is so weak. They may be German shepherds by their looks, but not in their heart. And I don't think anyone should breed a dog that is insecure no matter what breed it is. We need dogs who are healthy not only talking about their physical health and genetic disorders, but also in the matter of mental health and personality issues. I appreciate responsible breeders who actually care about the breed like this dude does. Good job 🐶
And THIS is the reason I made sure to meet my puppies parents...
Don't shop -adopt. Have to rescuing hundreds of dogs and seeing thousands of them in shelters I know what I'm talking about.
Adopt Or Shop Responsibly. There is nothing wrong with getting a dog from a responsible breeder.
Good breeders need to be out there to keep the good genetics flowing. But when you're just looking for a pet and not a dog for a specific task, I agree...check the shelters first.
Agreed, but when you're looking for a dog to do some sort of work breeding does make a difference. That's why irresponsible breeding is so bad. I have a special hate for breeders who tout themselves as responsible (small operation, genetic tests, etc.) but don't breed for personality and skill, just looks.
Ha you dont know what youre talking about. Dogs are in shelters because of bad owners who dont train their dogs the most common reason for dogs being rescues and shelters is behavior not breeders. If responsible dog ownership was promoted more there would be far less dogs without homes
Great video and I am glad that the trainer is showing people what and what not to look for in getting a GSD puppy. I do not understand the downvotes but; okay.
I have a 9 month old GS, he's well socialized, not afraid of anything, but he's into everything. The word no means nothing to him, he's curious about everything, has to check everything out. He follows me everywhere and I mean everywhere. Drives me absolutely crazy. I know, I know, training. We did a personal trainer for awhile, but who can afford $100 a week for an hour of training? I can't. And I definitely can't afford to send him for 3 weeks for 3000. I am at my wits end with this dog and no, he's not the first GS I've owned. He's like having the worse 2 yr old you've ever seen, in fact, I know 2 yr olds that listen better than him.
Wow I just realized my german shepherd has the best genetics the breeder wasn't lying 😂😂
oh that poor baby! walking on her pasterns an hocks. That's so sad. Hope she turned out amazing when you were finished with her.
Where do you trainer your Dog
I have a chihuahua(don't need protection, have weapons, but she's a great alarm system), she's gutsy, not afraid of storms, etc., little love bug. I'm the pitbull in our house:) I did grow up with a GS and she was a great dog. My older brother came home drunk one night and had to throw gravel at the windows to wake us up, as the dog wouldn't let him into the house(normally she liked him, so guess it was the alcohol smell). She disliked one of my uncles( I detested him too, so maybe she got the vibe from me)and would sit across the room, watching every move he made the entire time he visited. Really loved that dog.
We are about to purchase GSD. My breeder had a female that was a ball of nerves he had purchased for breeding. Not sure how it got that far, but he refused to breed her,had her spayed, and rehomed her as a family dog. I will keep this in mind if our pup shows anxiety and will refuse to breed him.
There should be an inspection system in place to control and regulate who can breed these animals to avoid all these sad results. I’ve been lucky to have my 3 GDS’s whichI love as kids. Bad breeders should be prohibited
That quote from that famous breeder,sums up your point perfectly.Thanks for putting us straight.
I would like to say that my first German Shepard was like the dog in the first video and she was an amazing family pet. My current dog is like the puppy in the first video. Of course having been damped by her original owner outside my mothers home at 4 weeks did not help on top of that at 4 months she and I were both attracted by a pit bull who belonged to an irresponsible dog owner. All it takes for dogs like that is work patience and love. All dogs deserve no mater what there breading is. It is the responsibility of any family how brings a pet into there home to make shure that animal is a good fit for that home. At the end of the the irresponsible owners and breakers are the problem not the dogs, dogs with the temperament of the puppy in the first video should not have to suffer for the action of irresponsible and uneducated people.
I dont think anyone is accusing the dog, rather the breeder. It is a family's responsibility to make sure theyre a good fit for the dog, but it is ALSO AND MOST IMPORTANTLY the breeder's responsibility to ensure it is a good fit too! Like they said in the video, this is a good dog, shes done nothing wrong but she should NOT be used for breeding. That's all they're talking about.
she wants the sleeve more than man's arm flesh
Thats sad. The breeder clearly wasnt considering the standard when breeding. Those pasterns and hocks are genetic faults. Not to mention that poor thing being afraid of her shadow. Im glad there are places like yours that can help give that dog the best version of herself.
American show lines have a frog squat. Even German show lines have their own disasters. They've got the horrible banana backs. Bottom line never breed dogs just for looks. Especially working breeds should be of strong mind and body.
The first dog had a very good bite..very good bite...is really the first time for her? I'm not quite sure
he said in the video that she had little prior exposure to bite work but he didn't say that it was her very first bite.
@@HailLuzifer that decoy's pressure work is for good trained dogs but it's not a problem, the reason explained is right.
this is great! where are you guys located?
This goes for any breed not just GSDs It took me two years of research to decide that the Cane Corso was the right dog for me and it took me an additional 2 years to find a quality breeder. I'm hoping to be able to put down a deposit on a pup this year the fact is most people aren't going to put in that much work to get a dog they see an ad in the news paper saying AKC reg Shepard puppies $700 and jump on it either not knowing what they are getting themselves into or they just want a cheep dog. Well you get what you pay for going to a quality breeder and spending 2k or more is way better then getting a poorly breed dog that your going to have to put down due to fear aggression or having to take to the dog animal shelter due to other reasons that steam from being afraid of the world