Andrew Klavan: Why The West Isn’t Over
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Andrew Klavan is a writer of crime and suspense novels, several of which have been adapted into Hollywood movies including 'True Crime' starring Clint Eastwood, and 'Don’t Say a Word' starring Michael Douglas. He has also written screenplays for several films. He is now the host of 'The Andrew Klavan Show' podcast on The Daily Wire.
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00:00 Intro
01:09 Sponsor Message: The Tired Moderate
02:44 Who Is Andrew Klavan?
06:39 Every Good Story Begins With a Boy & a Girl
10:02 Women in Today’s Culture
14:35 What is Going on with the Film Industry?
17:56 The Constructs of Power
22:24 Sponsor Message: Locals
23:26 The Film Industry & American Values
29:38 Is the West Coming to an End?
33:32 Why Are the Arts No Longer Open to New Ideas?
39:34 Old-School Liberal Values
42:30 The Power of the Left
48:37 America’s Loss of Rebel Spirit
54:46 The True Artists Are the Rebels
57:38 Andrew’s Thoughts on Donald Trump/DeSantis
1:02:26 How Do We Reach an Anti-Woke World?
1:08:21 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
WATCH exclusive bonus content where *Andrew* answers audience questions.
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CHAPTERS👇
00:00 Intro
01:09 Sponsor Message: The Tired Moderate
02:44 Who Is Andrew Klavan?
06:39 Every Good Story Begins With a Boy & a Girl
10:02 Women in Today’s Culture
14:35 What is Going on with the Film Industry?
17:56 The Constructs of Power
22:24 Sponsor Message: Locals
23:26 The Film Industry & American Values
29:38 Is the West Coming to an End?
33:32 Why Are the Arts No Longer Open to New Ideas?
39:34 Old-School Liberal Values
42:30 The Power of the Left
48:37 America’s Loss of Rebel Spirit
54:46 The True Artists Are the Rebels
57:38 Andrew’s Thoughts on Donald Trump/DeSantis
1:02:26 How Do We Reach an Anti-Woke World?
1:08:21 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
Well said
Hey Guys, Great interview with Andrew. I recall when I first encountered his videos many years ago, how his presentation and quick wit seemed so familiar to me...Then and now, he reminds me of someone I expect you may be familiar with on your side of the Pond--Pat Condell.
It would be amazing if you could track him down and sit for a chat, though you may have to restrict such an episode to Rumble since he has become somewhat radioactive here on UA-cam over the years.
This was a great guest you guys had.
I did not know who Kaplan was, and in a few minutes I have become a fan.
Please keep up your amazing work, the two of you are an awesome team.
Of course everyone at the Daily Wire is a DeSantis shill. DeSantis CANNOT win in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan) because he voted for the TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP.
Andrew is criminally underrated in the daily wire crew
Seems pretty well balanced compared to the rest of em
Klavan is the only dailywire I can handle at this point. I love his talks on art and beauty.
Please end it
@@MrHorsesongs05 well he is a writer by trade.
He and Peterson would be the only reason I'd consider subscribing
"it's impossible to make a good story out of Wokeness, because it has no inner, spiritual life. It's all about power" damn that's a brilliant insight..
the other side of that coin is "we are going to win and get some control of our society by being against having power"...
this is yet again keep trying the same thing that already failed. people are getting really tired of that
I hope you are not suggesting that the libertarians (the opposite of Woke in my opinion) don't want power? That would be naive to the extreme. We do tend to think that only progressives virtue signal but that is so far from the truth it is almost insulting.
This is a very interesting conversation but not for one second did I think this guy was not peddling the virtues of his side of the culture war.
@@pepegalego lol by the time you guys figure out what a real libertarian is, the only people that believe in it will be extinct.
@@pepegalego If your reply is meant for me, nope. `No hidden subtexts or implied suggestions in my comment.
@@crunch8484 Sorry mate, I misunderstood.
I’m a civil engineer, but quit to stay home with my now four babies and never looked back. I may use it in the future but I love being a mother and my children are my greatest investment and legacy.
More power to your elbow👌🏽
This is a choice you will never regret. You wouldn't be able to say that if you had chosen otherwise. And your family will be stronger for it.
Nobody, on their death bed, ever said "I wish I'd spent more time in the office".
Thankyou, more young women need to do this
@@grannyannie2948
Right. But they need the opportunity to do so. We also need to protect the homemakers financially for spending decades in raising citizens. Too many women in their 40s are left by their husbands once the kids are grown. A woman only one man away from welfare. It is true.
As a woman this brought up a lot of emotions about how my life has played out, and I have had 3 children. You cannot give the time you want to your kids or family because working for £11/hr you need both parents working full time to live without high levels of money worries and give your family more than just enough. Thank you for this conversation.
I completely agree with you!
My wife and I did it. We thought it was more important for her to be there full time while our three children were in the development years. We simply accepted we were going to get by on less. I still believe it was the right decision. Our children all came out happy and stable and successful.
I think the government should pay mothers for doing the vital job of raising the next generation. On top of their husband's earnings since many men nowadays don't earn enough anyway. Instead they are giving mothers a certain amount of free childcare so that they will go back to work but what about the mothers who just want to be mothers? Why are they discriminated against?
This guy is such an elitist he does not know most families don't have the luxury of having just one working person in the household.
@@lostcause6100 its bad enough thst we have to pay child allowance without giving stay at home mothers a wage as well. Queen bee stays at home with her kids while muggins the taxpayer picks up the bill? How many people do you think are going to agree to that? If people choose to have kids they should work to pay for them not expect the taxpayer to pick up the bill. If they can't afford them they shouldn't have them.
Andrew is one of those guys I listen to and just think, “Yeah, this guy knows what’s up.” Great interview.
Jane Austin wrote my favourite female character in “Persuasion”. The character of Anne Elliot is a strong female character but there is nothing masculine about her at all. The recent movie butchered the novel because they didn’t understand her.
Jane Austen was fantastic. She is the last author to realistically analysis to a cent the financial position of each character.
Thanks I’ll check her out. I miss awesome female energy… where is it?
I don't know, all I know for sure is I've been brought up and taught that pretty much most males could kill me. I have no doubt about that, however, I sure as he'll will make sure they remember me with every scar I leave them on my way out.
@@moondust1992 And yet only a tiny tiny minority would try to harm you.
Great post.
One of the best written female characters is Polly from the Peaky Blinders. She's not an irritating girlboss yet maintains a clear authority over her family and business. She's not weak but still feminine, emotional but not irrational. A mature, adult and powerful woman living in a time when women didn't have much political power.
Polly? The woman who throws tantrums and informed a predatory priest who molested *her kid that a murder was coming? If it wasn't for the brilliant Cillian Murphy the show would be nigh unwatchable. The writing and acting is pretty damn awful.
Now "The Sopranos"? THAT is a masterclass in writing.
*edited from a to her.
One of my favorites is Vanessa Ives from Penny Dreadful. The show went off the rails in the end (and I didn't even bother with the spinoff), but I always loved this description from the creator/writer of the show:
"I purposely wanted a female protagonist -- that was the important thing, that my hero was going to be a woman, and a complicated woman. And she wasn't going to be my hero by masculinizing her, by giving her a gun. She was going to be a woman, and a woman in her era, yet be the hero of this piece. She's the strong guiding light around which all the moths gather."
Pollyanna WASNT a girl boss????
@@veraf7315 Are you talking about my mother ?
The mc in "arrival" - her power was language and communication skills, which women are better at.
Thanks to Klavan I'm thinking of becoming a Christian - my fave on DW for miles. Love from Australia
Christianity here in Aus, like anywhere else, is a mix of those trying to follow Christ and those leveraging its appearance. I’m an internet rando but happy to help if u have questions in an Aussie context or are seeking a legit church.
@@stevecavanagh8033 Oh I go to a Baptist church - reading the Bible with a friend from there each week. In terms of leveraging Christianity I'm not sure I see much of that as we are a post-Christian country.
@@chernobylcoleslaw6698 Very true, you see a lot less of them these days, and that's a great thing.
@@stevecavanagh8033 less hypocrisy? Just seems sad indicator of Christianity's waning influence on the West.
Where are you in Australia?
@@chernobylcoleslaw6698 Sydney. I mean that the more the hate rises against Christians, the more fakes it drives away. It enables people to see the Christ of the bible often buried beneath man-made obfuscation (robes, bells and smells). There aren't too many sparkly-jacketed tv evangelists in China :)
FYI JKR never apologized for her statements, because she didn't say anything wrong. She still stands by what she said.
Absolutely ! 🤙
And she is still a mentally ill feminazi..
She did apologise the first time. This time around however she has stuck to her point.
He never said that she did. He said that someone else apologised for publicly agreeing with her.
@@John-ip7qo No, she never apologized
I know of Andrew and have watched him several times.
You guys did one heck of a first class job in this interview. There is much to learn or hear or dicuss with Andrew, and you guys allowed (as usual) your guest to touch on so many things.
Superb.
Super thank you, guys. 🙏
Klavan's wisdom is unmatched. Nice to see him in here.
Andrew Klavan and the Trig boys, my two "never miss" "must watches" on UA-cam.
Thanks guys!!!
Ian Hart, you have excellent taste in podcasts! (As do I. 😊) ❤
Klavan is brilliant. He's my never miss on the Daily Wire and UA-cam. Thanks guys for getting the interview with Drew!!!
Have you read or watched any of his top 10? They are in my list.
I LOVE this man! ❤ Never heard of him before now. He really gets it. I've been saying it all for years. Family and home are our power as individuals and as society. And women are beautifully designed to nurture and amplify that power.❤
He is, hands down, the most underrated conservative commentator out there. I'll take it even further and say he's the most profound because he's actually read all the books.
He’s a writer too. Haven’t purchased any of his books yet.
He has a weekly podcast. It’s around 90 mins long and is out every Saturday. It’s very good and he talks about all of these issues and there it’s quite funny too.
@@lesliepage3886 I've devoured nearly all of them. His latest Cameron Winter series has two books out with another due in the Fall.
In addition to his DW+ podcasts from recent years, has has very funny Klavan on the Culture videos from days with PJ Media.
For those new to klavan, he is the GOAT and the quintessential answer to what conservative philosophy truly is and why its right. Not without his flaws but he's a regular 'must listen' (for both the left and right) and to this day speaks more truth than any pundit i've encountered.
Edit: His son spencer is also incredible. The world would be a much better place if they were in everyones playlist.
i think Hermione Granger was generally nailed as a heroine in the books and movies. she's super intelligent and does all the reading, like any good studious girl always does in school (unlike the boys) and she is also the emotionally intelligent character who manages conflicts between other characters. she's able to handle herself, but she generally understands her limits and her role and she will let Harry take the lead when it comes to being a hero or warrior - even though she's capable.
she's also the moral heart of the group and has the most empathy for others, especially non-human creatures and pets.
she's never afraid to actually be a girl or woman, even though she might not be the most "girly" of girls. she's never trying to be a boy or a man, she is her own self
@man frombritain I'm shocked, that ''Hermione'', isn't a popular baby name.
And in the movie when she punches Draco in the face she clutches her hand because it hurt her just as much as it hurt him
@@honey3762. She slapped him, and realistically, both were just shocked afterwards.
@@dreamweaver1603 no
The lord of the rings also has a lot of strong female characters
Brilliant conversation. Andrew Klavan is underrated.
He’s my favorite DW creator! He’s so fun to listen to and has the compassion that some of the others are lacking. Brilliant man!
Not by me!
He’s good, could have done without the pretentious MCU comment lol.
@@andrewcrawford8306 That the movies are trash? he's right. The first few were okay, but on the whole they're garbage.
Criminally underrated.
I remember hearing Sam Harris say he enjoys being proven wrong, but that’s only because in his mind he’s never wrong
Lol, that guy is an intellectual fraud.
But once he is proven wrong his view is corrected then he is no longer wrong.
@@hughkelly9073 Not really, once he's proven wrong, he finds a hypothetical world where he could have been right and suddenly he feels right again. I've never heard that pompous ass admit that he was wrong about anything.
@@user-fe7en2vm4y likewise... He's not the least bit interesting anymore - he's tiring
🎯💯😆
Good point Andrew! “If you are afraid to die, how can you be a rebel.” Now that our country has become atheist, everyone cowers in the face of evil because this life is all people have. As a Christian I don’t fear death the way I did when I was an atheist. There are a lot of things worse than death.
I agree! There are worse things in life than death.
Atheists don’t fear death. 😂😂
@@jamesperrie1393If they knew what was coming, they would.... 🤷♀️
@@meganbennett2144 why what is coming??
If there is a God then he will welcome Atheists with open arms as according to Christians he is all forgiving and if there isn’t then it is simply the end and nothing more which means you won’t know anything about it just going to sleep and never waking up.
So nothing to fear, death is part of life it comes to us all.
@ James Perrie
You don't believe in a god, yet you presume to know how this god will relate to you and you to him? Pretty convenient for you.
Amdrew Klavan has been a huge influence on my understanding of the arts and faith over the years. This man is a national treasure, and he must be protected!
Andrew Klavan says there is no one to "take over" from the Boomers (my generation). He says that's what Lear was about: the king was dying, and there was "no one to take over." That's not true. Cordelia was fully able to take over; it was her very wisdom and Lear's ignorance of it that led to the tragedy. Someone was ready. They were ignored, rejected even. We need to find our Cordelias, and believe them.
Perhaps a better analogy would have been Succession - a brilliant but terrible man builds a dysfunctional and ultimately unsustainable company in his sociopathic image, and then laments that none on his broken children are "worthy" to take it over.
Love Andrew Klavan! 💜
The chirping birds in the background added a gorgeous touch to this fantastic interview. 🌹🌹
I'm glad I wasn't the only one listening to the birds!
And the nice fireplace... probably triggering a climate activist 😋
Andrew Klavan is so underrated. A true gem hidden in the Dailywire
Inspiring and deep conversation, very stimulating and interesting. I have been a fan and follower of Andrew Klaven for a long time.
Klavan is the reason I have a Daily Wire subscription! He’s the best.
Andrew is a fantastic guest. Very insightful.
This is a fascinating conversation.
BRILLIANT!!❤ I've listened to Andrew Klavan quite a bit, but never heard such a fine concise articulation of his insights, analysis and prognosis, with humour, balance and generosity! Very impressed! Great interview, guys!
I have enjoyed this conversation quite a lot. This is the type of conversation I used to have with friends in my teens and 20's (I am 50 years old now). Now, I find difficult to find people to have honest and deep discussion anymore.
Klavan is my favorite Daily Wire host. I always come away with some new piece of wisdom when I listen to him talk. ❤
Wow! Impressive conversation. It's rare that I can simply sit back and listen to someone because their ideas are compelling and their ability to communicate them is exceptional.
Andrew has such well thoughtout conversations. His sentences are quotable gold.
Tremendous interview guys. Andrew Klavan is a gem.
I love Andrew Klavan. Thanks guys
andrew klavan is the most carismatic genius , can't stop listening to him!
I so appreciate Andrew Klavan’s take on cultural, religious and political issues.
Andrew is by far the best of the Daily Wire crew, at least to me. He's the only one I feel like I could actually be friends with. Also, the background sound of the wind blowing leafs around, accompanied by the occasional bird chirp was fantastic. It really made this interview an auditory pleasure as well as an intellectual pleasure.
Idk how a man of his intelligence can handle Matt Walsh.
Best DW host by far, all of em enjoyable but nothing beats his humour, nuance, depth and balance. Dont agree on all his stances but vast vast majority and he makes me think!
❤ Thank you for talking with Andrew Klavan. It was a brilliant interview.
I really like the change in venue. That is, having your interview meeting outside.
Huge respect for Andrew Klaven for speaking body and truthfully
BTW: Women are ANGRY! It’s just not the ones with a platform.
Thanks to all three of you for this terrific interview.
Enjoyable conversation. Andrew makes an invaluable contribution.
This might be my favorite interview of 2023. Amazing.
Thanks FF and KK for another great interview 👏👏👏👏
As a radio presenter I'd often ask callers what they did. I didn't add, '...for a living?' As that would be too presumptuous.
Every single homemaker would say, 'Oh, I'm just a housewife'.
I didn't let them get away with this self denegration. I'd always contradict their 'just' with, 'it's the most important job there is', but it would often fall on deaf ears. All women have been infected with this thought.
The western cultural devaluation of motherhood is a catastrophic mind virus which was birthed in the brains of bored, intelligent, middle class women, who became envious of their husbands 130 years ago.
Amid collapsing populations of the 21st century, who would think that such a tiny minority of people could have such a devastating effect on the world in general and on the West in particular?
Andrew Klavan is the greatest!
An inspiring interview, your program is excellent and necessary considering what is happening today. Love to all involved
Excellent setting and production values as well as conversation....
Andrew Klavan is incredibly wise and thoughtful, always enjoy listen to him!
Im a 63 year old woman, my husband 71, still gets up at six am and does hard dirty work to provide for and advance our family, I know he'd die for us. I'm happy to keep our home clean, provide clean, dry clothes, delicious meals and affection. Im getting a good deal. Its working for us.
It's crazy that the woke talk about how everybody should be able to be who they are, and then they tell you who you should be and what identities aren't ok.🙄🙄🙄
This was great! Triggernometry: Now With More Klavan!
Francis is right about movies nowadays. I was a movie addict in the 90's and 00's. I would rent at least a couple movies per week, and now months go by between movie rentals.
probably because Blockbusters closed
Thank you. I know it's 10 months old but this was very fulfilling like soup for my soul. I'm glad I clicked on this, even though it started as an interest in thoughts about the movie industry.
I love Andrew !,
Andrew Klaybern.. Klabin..Klamin is terrific ! Thank you gentlemen.
I never know how to spell his last name!
THERE ARE NO E’s! Andraw Klavan!
Quick Feedback: Aesthetics matter to my eye and ears. The choice to sit outside by the fire, the greenery, the smoke and wind. Thumbs up!
I've said this before, Andrew is the Aspen 20 in the room. Truly brilliant fella
I can’t believe we get his wisdom for free. ❤❤❤
Thank you for an amazing 👏 conversation. 🍻 from Dublin, Ireland 🇮🇪.
Great interview. As an atheist I don't agree with his views on atheists but can understand why he and other people have this view.
I think atheism gets a bad rep in particular because atheists don't believe in a God, but the current day issues are basically about too many people not really believing in any tradition or cultural belief. And believing in a God and following religion has just been the most common cause that has kept humans going for centuries, and now it's becoming more and more rare so people are wasting time and fighting over stupid things.
@@AbhijeetMishra Atheism gets a bad rap because the only logically consistent philosophy of atheism is nihilism.
@@AbhijeetMishra I'm an atheist myself and I think there are two tiers to atheism. There's the people who don't believe in god but still stick to the traditions of their country and are patriotic, which in a way holds things together. I'd put myself in that group. Then there's the people who don't believe in god but also want to tear down everything to do with their country and it's culture. It's those people who are causing a load of problems.
I was an atheist from age 15 to 35. You may yet get past your doubts. One day, I realized that I needed God and on that day He answered me. It's not as silly as we're led to believe by all the smartypantses. Read a bit of the Bible with some regularity and you may find that the wisdom it contains far, far outweighs the objections skeptics raise about it. Until you have made a thorough study of scripture, keep away from religious teachers: 90% of them are actually fools, just as the atheists claim.
These shows are impossible in conventional arenas. Love these conversations they are what's going to save America.
Thanks guys. Wisdom, food for thought and some inspiration! Appreciate the discussion! God bless you all!
Congratulations on a fantastic interview. This was truly one of the best episodes so far.
Best and most entertaining guest you've had on. Loved every second of this.
Several on the Daily Wire sound like people who read the book on life and took great notes.
The book is Andrew Klavan’s autobiography…
Why not have a feminist on the show explaining the importance of feminism in patriarchal societies instead of one man after the other convincing us a women without babies has no value?
This was a fantastic interview. Andrew is such an interesting person with a lot of common sense.
I am reading Dostoevsky and he is absolutely hilarious - I really mean that! Some of his novels had me laughing hysterically while others have made me quite pensive. He has an unbelievable understanding of humans! Definitely read his books. Notes from the underground is basically a black comedy of sorts
Andrew Klavan is right about everything.
"It was the Conservatives who were stultifying the conversation, it was liberals who were challenging all the orthodoxies"
I think you can make the case now, that the Conservatives were right to do so. If they had won, the world would be a better place than it is now.
Nah, some things needed to change. We really didn't have free speech as we know it until the 70s, as there were vulgarity and public decency laws in the past. And what counted as vulgarity and public indecency was anything that the dominant culture didn't like. People were actually going to jail for making jokes, or performing music that weren't approved by the conservative Christians. There was a lot that needed to change, and so it did. People look on the past with rose tinted glasses, and they like to pretend that their side is always right, was always right, and will always be right. That is simply impossible for any human, let alone a large group of humans.
@@spracketskooch The vulgarity and indecency we have now is a good trade for the collapse of marriage and the grooming of children that we also have now?
You're insane.
I’m so excited for this one!
Andrew Klavan is a fascinating and vibrant person. Bursting with intelligence and sense.
You can't have a compelling story without an antagonist. There's no overcoming a paper tiger.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Because just one thumbs up for this one was a crime!
Andrew is a gem
It's been a while since I've listened to Andrew Klavan, and this has made me realize how much I've missed. Kudos to you guys for having him on the show.
I have heard Andrew klavan speak many times but you guys got the best from him
100 years seems quite optimistic.
I give it 15 max
Very well done interview
Fantastic interview. Thanks!!
This man reminds me of the way I grew up with my dad with good common spiritual sense, loves God and morality. The good ol days. He sees it the way it really is, not the crazy way they want this generation to think. Needs to be more men like him!
"Let others do whatever they're going to do, let them work out their salvation with fear and trembling"
I don't think you've ever been deeply betrayed by someone who was doing just that -- at least, no one you couldn't safely outlive.
That's were faith comes in. The rejection of fear and forgiveness of others allows one to move on from betrayal.
@@SMacCuUladh And when the betrayal simply doesn't stop, but goes on and on, with new reminders every week, every day?
That's when you realize why God made hell, and why it's a good, just, and righteous thing that some people are sent there.
Great listen! Thank you guys.
I watched sooooooo much of Andrew circa 2012-2015 on PJTV
"I'm a conservative because I'm a liberal". WOW what a great quote.
Great work, gentlemen. Wonderful interview
I really like that fire place!
That area does look cozy, doesn't it?
I really don't
I'd like to see a few whole chickens roasting in there..
Thank you for that treasure. A refreshing discussion with brilliant insights and some new points of view, at least for me.
Thank you guys, you are one of the few channels wich are able to deliver deep discussions, ask difficult questions with respect and fun.
Amazing guys, kind regards from Germany.
Right at the end he said it; ' Power being kept at bay, so that the individual can thrive !!! '
Why i tune in every Friday to this man. Truely one of the wisest conservatives out there
“You said it’s all circling the drain … it had to end sometime.” ~Richard B. Riddick
America definitely went from savagery to decadence and missed out on the civilizational part inbetween. Oscar Wilde made the same remark.
Moonlight was a great film--very moving. It was something I'd never seen or imagined about life.
He has a point… I have always been a liberal, and wokeness moved back to get closer to God… because it teaches humility, and thrive for a higher state
Yet again an impressive interview!
This one really meant a lot to me.
I’m proud to be a woman, and I know my limits. I’ll leave the fighting to the men.❤
Hear hear!
Absolutely, along with carrying heavy things, and opening doors.
Reasonable 🎉
WONDERFUL !!!!!!
The most profound episode yet. This strikes at the heart of Western decline. 10:02 a society without mothers is a house without a foundation. Also 10:34 "he wants to replace the mother". At 8:50 "this brings together the pieces of ourselves". Will anyone listen? Psalm 128:3 "Your wife shall be like a fruitful vine, In the very heart of your house, Your children like olive plants, All around your table". We now have a culture "dead on the inside", no "fruitful vine", no "heart in the house". Houston, we have a problem.