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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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"Before Macintosh: The Apple Lisa" is a fascinating look into the computer that really changed the way we used personal computers; it started the modern personal computer revolution! Not only did key people from the project go on to help create the Macintosh, but so did key components of both hardware and software. In the end, Apple even converted the Lisa into a Macintosh-compatible computer, before canceling it altogether. Find out why it mattered then, and why it’s a valuable computer collectible now.
Part I - Genesis: The Apple Lisa at Apple
Part II - Second Life: The Apple Lisa after Apple
Part III - Legacy: The Apple Lisa Today
Interviewed:
Adam Rosen, Vintage Mac Museum
Andrew Madsen, Lisa & Apple Enthusiast
Bill Atkinson, Former Apple Engineer
Bob Cook, Former President, Sun Remarketing
Dr. Bruce Damer, DigiBarn Computer Museum
Dan Keller (Smith), Former Apple Desktop Manager
Harry McCracken, Global Technology Editor, Fast Company
James Savage, RetroMacCast Podcast
John Leake, RetroMacCast Podcast
John Couch, Former Lisa Development Manager
John Sculley, Former Apple CEO
John Woodall, VintageMicros & "The Last Lisa Dealer”
Josh Dersch, Engineer, Living Computer Museum
Ray Arachelian, LisaEm Lisa emulator
Rich Page, Former Apple Engineer
Thank you for the deep dive. I kinda feel like I was born 20 years too late. I would have loved to have gotten into the tech world in the mid 70s and landed a job at a place like Apple, Dec, Microsoft, etc in the early 80s. When a guy with a soldering iron in his garage could truly change the world.
Wow, many memories conjured up for me. I joined Apple in 1981 (Peripherals division) and I recall the day my manager took me over to Bandley Drive to see a very secret Lisa prototype (you needed a blue badge to get in, the rest of us had red). Blown away, of course. A few years later I was writing the ROM for one of two competing projects, "Big Mac" and "Mid Mac", one of which would later become the Mac II. I was on Big Mac along with the hardware engineering leader Rich Page. Steve Jobs was backing Big Mac, but it was ultimately canceled in favor of Mid Mac after many months of parallel development. We held a "wrap party" at Rich's house where the team gathered to hear Steve thank us for the hard work we did. Steve left Apple soon after.
Oh, the destruction of those Lisas is INFURIATING.
Yeah. That really hurts. Still to this day to me.
A great documentary, really enjoyed it. May the algorithm bless you!
Beautiful work Thank you. My sister had a very early Mac. No sign of the Lisa in Tasmania. For me it was a Commodore Colt XT...Green screen MS DOS something.. upgraded to 6.1, Multiplan etc dBase3 and 4, Lotus 1,2,3, WordStar and Wordperfect ...definitely the Mac was groundbreaking, but it didn't have the "business" software. We lived in a time of the new world. We even used Olivetti 286 at work...super fast...even a floor at work with tbe DEC (?) PDP 11 (?) ..I should have paid more attention ..bunch of geniuses back then
"Speed Limit 14"... Yep, thats Utah alright.
How do you know ur doing 14 when ur speedometer is in increments of 5?
Yea, I used to live in Logan too... hated it. Went to school at bridgerland for electronics and computer stuff.
Weird how none of the Lisa stuff was mentioned there. I would think it would be a daily curse word because of what happened to all the lisas and the dik move of paying guys extra to make sure they were destroyed.
Well worth the wait. Amazing!
Thank you algorithm for recommending me this. Always been curious about the history of the Lisa ever since I read about it when I was a kid developing an interest in vintage computing in 2011 or so.
Thank You this is great I got my Mac in 1985
Congratulations 🎉it was a pleasure meeting you in Atlanta
Same here!
SO Jealous of you Luis. It does explain your FB connection though. 🤓
I paid over 6K for my Mac IIsi with monitor and printer in 1992. It should have been more affordable.
There always was a more affordable better option to apple in the 80s and 90s. In the 80s the Atari ST line gave the macs a run for their money in the 90s Windows was better until MacOSX came!
56:22 Steve Jobs left in ‘85 but this Lisa burial happened in ‘89? In ‘89 Steve was running NeXT
They are presenting Bob Cook’s memory/opinion. I’d guess Sculley was the blame. Or Gassée? Gassée killed an early project for a budget Macintosh before he left Apple.
There are several bits that in some way don't make sense specifically because of NeXT which seems to be ignored. Granted, NeXT was a less than totally separate thing in some ways, like there were people who kinda sorta worked for both. I get the impression that they are taking some creative license and massaging things to put the Lisa stuff in the center of the story when in many ways it actually became a sort of side track and "oh yeah, that thing in the corner of the basemen" since the main story for Apple became the Mac.
NeXT is a cool story on it's own, I've played with a Cube Color as well as had many of the lesser known things in my hands, but the pure collector side there has always pushed the prices so incredibly high that I could never justify buying one myself. I know of a fully loaded NeXT Cube Color a guy has, who's been trying to sell it for more than 10yrs. But he wants ALL the money heh. Granted, it has all the fancy bits including the MO drive and the DSP bits working and is complete - but I'm not paying the price of a small new car for some old junker that might spontaneously combust tomorrow. Not to mention, those things are SLOW. Even just running their OS they are slow, let alone doing something with it.
I’ve watched further on now. The answer is at 1:41:55. Was John Sculley and CFO Joe Graziano that made the decision.
@@av_oid Yes, sorry if that was not made clear enough, but right. Steve Jobs was responsible for essentially killing the Lisa though, through 1985 up until he left. The boardroom "battle" happened because he wanted to do the same to Apple's cash cow, the Apple II.