I particularly love the part at the beginning where the characters run in syncing up with the music, then the rest of the battle happens with that goddamn cube.
Since i'm an old hardrock/metal fanboy, I actually enjoy Singa's works. They are not my most liked in the falcom OST, far from that for sure, but I don't see them as actually bad. They are just from another genre, and I don't think tracks like this one lose to works from other franchises that are of said genre.
Yeah. This is just my personal assumption, but I imagine a lot of people dislike Singa's work, even the ones which I consider to be decently composed, because it's a much different style from people like Unisuga, Sonoda, Momiyama, and other people throughout Falcom's history whose songs are very melodic and have pretty traditional rhythms. A lot of Singa's battle songs have pretty erratic rhythms and a harsher guitar tone, which is a pretty big constrast compared to the heaps of other trails music and I can get that people don't like how much it sticks out. With respect to guitar, Unisuga and Jindo use much more "collected" guitar tones. With that said, I also agree that many of Singa's compositions and sound quality are not close to level of the other composers. Take Monstrum Spectrum, for example- It's certainly more chaotic than Unisuga's usual works, and people freaking love it. Sure, guitar is still less screechy, but imo (and probably others, too) the instrumentation and mastering is better than, say, this song or Boss Theme 4 from Kuro no Kiseki. And when it comes to sound quality and delivering large volumes of music, Singa tends to sacrifice quality over speed. It's not too rare for a town or event theme of his to just.... sound kinda compressed, aside from the mastering issues. The difference compared to others' works is noteworthy. Some of his themes are good in both composition and sound quality, definitely; but his inconsistency is a big hit to his reputation and his overall perceived quality. Compare this to Sonoda, who has historically been handed a lot of games' OST, especially when it was just him, Unisuga, and Jindo. Putting personal preference on composition and instrumentation aside for a moment, Sonoda consistently delivers high-quality sound, which puts his quality over Singa (again, personal opinion) (Also, I imagine one of the reasons they shove so much on him is because he's capable of handling such a massive workload) Singa definitely gets a lot of undeserved hate (and undeserved love too, yes? no?) but I can't really blame him for paying for his daughter's college tuition when Falcom has been making terrible decisions for the past few years and shattering their connections in the industry. People like to shit on him for kickboxing; I'm not gonna comment on that because I can think of that situation from lots of viewpoints, but the guy's said on his Twitter (can't find the exact tweets rn sorry) that's he's burnt out as hell, so yeah everybody needs a hobby when work isn't fun. It makes sense considering how much Falcom throws onto him. Singa's got skill. Sadly, he's under the shadow of many extremely beloved talents and isn't in an environment where he can put his heart and soul into his works. And well. I'd imagine it's easier to flat swing completely one direction on Singa rather than reflect on the history and current trends with Falcom's music. That, and, there are some very zealous Kiseki fans. So Singa gets unfathomed hate, and unfathomed devotion too. Anyway, I'm glad that I like hard rock. And that you do too.
@@Aewo ngl, that one struck deep. But it goes without the saying, "If you get some like, always expect the same level of hate." There is never a light without an equal shadow to walk behind you. I see Singa in mainly a positive light cause i enjoy most of his music. While i also understand his flaws that others have been trying to slam their keyboards into other people's to realize, but its really just music in the end so the spectrum goes both ways. Not to go on a personal level or anything. o3o i honestly like this rheme greatly.
I wasn't expecting this cube to be that disrespectful. But, this great track helped to keep me pumped and motivated. Rixia's little stance goes so well with this. Lloyd's "help im dying here" animation does too 😅
All the critics on Singa by western and all non-Japanese fans here made me wondering ー what are the Japanese Falcom fans' opinion on Singa's tracks? Do a lot of them expressed displeasure for his tracks, if anyone knows? Why I'm wondering about this? I believe their voices are the closest to Falcom that if they made their complaints well-known Falcom will hear from them first and foremost.
From what I've heard, it's a vocal critical minority on both sides (heard tell that they've review bombed OST releases-- granted even games like Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate were heavily review-bombed for things like perceived difficulty issues; Amazon JP review bombing is their equivalent of metacritic user score bombing in general). I think the fact his presence has only grown with time should tell people that he's sticking around; I personally think he ranges from meh to great and never had much issue with him.
Man why is the western falcom fandm full of sophists? I swear most of you played Sky and suddenly thought you were experts in musical theory. I actually have a bit of respect for the Umineko fandom now since at least they have a gentleman's agreement to not get into pointless fights over music.
I played Sky and I was like : "Oh leitmotives ! Nice." But I don't like ppl talking ill of Singa, or ppl going like "6/10, drums are lackluster". Those guys are just plain assholes
Me: Oh for once I don't see that Desmondes guy in here, gues she finally gave up on being a sore disgrace showing the bad side of us Critics- *Scrolls down* Oh.. How am I not surprised that the biased guy's back again. Overall, I definitely like this boss theme. Gives that guardian kind of theme with it's metal-like base track.
@@YourVinished now that I listened to it couple of times I'd say yeah it is Singa even if the drums in this one were powerful that Singa guitar still sticks out, if only he could improve his guitars like he did with his drums.
It's pretty solid overall, but man, some better lead guitar sound would do wonders for this track. It's really a shame that so many of Singa's tracks are brought down by that one aspect. I could also do without the usual EDM synth in the chorus, but that's more of a taste thing. edit: wow apparently I had much higher tolerance for Singa's nonsense 2 years ago.
The intro is actually quite nice, but for the rest, Singa really needs to replace that main guitar of his for something that matches his heavier stuff. 1:09 just sounds bad. Also someday the FOFcube will have its revenge.
The intro was good... It doesn't feel really cohesive after, it feels like it was stretched in order to reach the 2 minute mark. 7/10. If you guys see me rating, it's just a marker to know which tracks I like or dislike. Of course, you see the rating more often on the Singa ones but it's because I'm not the biggest fan of his music. Though you can see that I mostly put 7 or higher because I don't believe that his songs are complete garbage but still need a bit of polishing. I'd also like to add that you can like Singa more than I do and I won't judge, if you hate Singa's music then just say and don't be too toxic about it. I myself almost feel that by constantly saying things about Singa, I am myself feeling that I am becoming toxic. I hope that I don't feel too toxic and if you saw some of my previous comments please say if I'm too extra. Just don't confuse being toxic and expressing your opinion.
@@MaskedKingDavid That's reassuring. I just don't want to be the guy ruining other people's experience by being toxic. By the way, I could say the same thing to you, I always see you as calm, polite, and rational and it's always a pleasure to converse with you.
I like this one, now who on earth is the composer? Can't be Sonoda, N, Jindo or Unisuga. A lot of the instrumentation feels like Singa, but at the same time I feel like something is a bit off to be him. I just don't see it for some reason. Personally, my guess (as far-fetched as it sounds) is that this is one of Koguchi's Ys IX rejects and Falcom just decided to use it here for some reason.
I stopped expecting anything remotely listenable from Singa a long time ago (or did I ever have any positive expectations towards his work to begin with?) and so should anyone else. XD
@SunnySeviper 526 I think you replied to the wrong guy. I was saying that in response to a somone who claimed that "others shouldn't expect anything good out of Singa" because THEY THEMSELVES didn't. It's one thing to have an opinion that doesn't match with mine, it's another to be tasteless AND tactless, and that guy was both.
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I particularly love the part at the beginning where the characters run in syncing up with the music, then the rest of the battle happens with that goddamn cube.
That's the puzzling part of the cube. No pun intended.😅
Cube: you're doing great so far, let me award you with a METEOR STORM.
*Proceed to drop everyone's HP to 8 specifically*
that cube gave me a sucker punch when i thought it was doing great.
Since i'm an old hardrock/metal fanboy, I actually enjoy Singa's works. They are not my most liked in the falcom OST, far from that for sure, but I don't see them as actually bad. They are just from another genre, and I don't think tracks like this one lose to works from other franchises that are of said genre.
Gonna agree with you there, 'cause holy shit does it go *hard* at the start.
Yeah. This is just my personal assumption, but I imagine a lot of people dislike Singa's work, even the ones which I consider to be decently composed, because it's a much different style from people like Unisuga, Sonoda, Momiyama, and other people throughout Falcom's history whose songs are very melodic and have pretty traditional rhythms. A lot of Singa's battle songs have pretty erratic rhythms and a harsher guitar tone, which is a pretty big constrast compared to the heaps of other trails music and I can get that people don't like how much it sticks out. With respect to guitar, Unisuga and Jindo use much more "collected" guitar tones.
With that said, I also agree that many of Singa's compositions and sound quality are not close to level of the other composers. Take Monstrum Spectrum, for example- It's certainly more chaotic than Unisuga's usual works, and people freaking love it. Sure, guitar is still less screechy, but imo (and probably others, too) the instrumentation and mastering is better than, say, this song or Boss Theme 4 from Kuro no Kiseki. And when it comes to sound quality and delivering large volumes of music, Singa tends to sacrifice quality over speed. It's not too rare for a town or event theme of his to just.... sound kinda compressed, aside from the mastering issues. The difference compared to others' works is noteworthy. Some of his themes are good in both composition and sound quality, definitely; but his inconsistency is a big hit to his reputation and his overall perceived quality. Compare this to Sonoda, who has historically been handed a lot of games' OST, especially when it was just him, Unisuga, and Jindo. Putting personal preference on composition and instrumentation aside for a moment, Sonoda consistently delivers high-quality sound, which puts his quality over Singa (again, personal opinion) (Also, I imagine one of the reasons they shove so much on him is because he's capable of handling such a massive workload)
Singa definitely gets a lot of undeserved hate (and undeserved love too, yes? no?) but I can't really blame him for paying for his daughter's college tuition when Falcom has been making terrible decisions for the past few years and shattering their connections in the industry. People like to shit on him for kickboxing; I'm not gonna comment on that because I can think of that situation from lots of viewpoints, but the guy's said on his Twitter (can't find the exact tweets rn sorry) that's he's burnt out as hell, so yeah everybody needs a hobby when work isn't fun. It makes sense considering how much Falcom throws onto him.
Singa's got skill. Sadly, he's under the shadow of many extremely beloved talents and isn't in an environment where he can put his heart and soul into his works.
And well. I'd imagine it's easier to flat swing completely one direction on Singa rather than reflect on the history and current trends with Falcom's music. That, and, there are some very zealous Kiseki fans. So Singa gets unfathomed hate, and unfathomed devotion too.
Anyway, I'm glad that I like hard rock. And that you do too.
@@Aewo ngl, that one struck deep. But it goes without the saying, "If you get some like, always expect the same level of hate." There is never a light without an equal shadow to walk behind you. I see Singa in mainly a positive light cause i enjoy most of his music. While i also understand his flaws that others have been trying to slam their keyboards into other people's to realize, but its really just music in the end so the spectrum goes both ways. Not to go on a personal level or anything. o3o i honestly like this rheme greatly.
He's kind of hit or miss as far as Falcom goes but honnestly in the grand scheme of things I think his tracks are usually more than above the average
@@Aewo 日本から。素晴らしいコメントです、感動さえしました。
自分は真我の曲を多く好んでいるので、他の真我への前向きな姿勢を見ると元気が出ます！
fighting against one tough Rubik's cube
I wasn't expecting this cube to be that disrespectful.
But, this great track helped to keep me pumped and motivated. Rixia's little stance goes so well with this.
Lloyd's "help im dying here" animation does too 😅
geez, this Rubik's cube is such a pain in the ass...I think it gives me trauma when I saw him again later in final dungeon.
I hate this thing, seriously.
"You shall not pass!". The boss
Half boss track half character team theme. A great track!
THE CUBE HAS APPEARED!
All the critics on Singa by western and all non-Japanese fans here made me wondering ー what are the Japanese Falcom fans' opinion on Singa's tracks? Do a lot of them expressed displeasure for his tracks, if anyone knows? Why I'm wondering about this? I believe their voices are the closest to Falcom that if they made their complaints well-known Falcom will hear from them first and foremost.
From what I've heard, it's a vocal critical minority on both sides (heard tell that they've review bombed OST releases-- granted even games like Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate were heavily review-bombed for things like perceived difficulty issues; Amazon JP review bombing is their equivalent of metacritic user score bombing in general).
I think the fact his presence has only grown with time should tell people that he's sticking around; I personally think he ranges from meh to great and never had much issue with him.
All my friends and me myself love it so there ya go. Even the mid boss theme that people here be calling chicken sound is also loved
@@ririisu Half us people who joke about the chickens in it also love the track.
@@MaskedKingDavid I mean, can you really blame the chickens? Only a true master of music could make that decision
ドラムでリズムとんの好き
ほんそれ
Man why is the western falcom fandm full of sophists?
I swear most of you played Sky and suddenly thought you were experts in musical theory.
I actually have a bit of respect for the Umineko fandom now since at least they have a gentleman's agreement to not get into pointless fights over music.
It's catchy and it makes the feel good chemicals in my brain go wosh, why can't we just leave it at that?
I played Sky and I was like : "Oh leitmotives ! Nice." But I don't like ppl talking ill of Singa, or ppl going like "6/10, drums are lackluster". Those guys are just plain assholes
Me: Oh for once I don't see that Desmondes guy in here, gues she finally gave up on being a sore disgrace showing the bad side of us Critics-
*Scrolls down*
Oh.. How am I not surprised that the biased guy's back again.
Overall, I definitely like this boss theme. Gives that guardian kind of theme with it's metal-like base track.
from 0:00 to 0:30 is badass after that tho it goes downhill so fast, it's really a shame because this is the best intro Singa has ever done.
It could be Unisuga tho just because of the drums but that guitar reminds me so much of Singa idk.
I think it's singa
it's pretty obviously singa. it sounds like a recycled Welcome to Chaos
@@YourVinished now that I listened to it couple of times I'd say yeah it is Singa even if the drums in this one were powerful that Singa guitar still sticks out, if only he could improve his guitars like he did with his drums.
welcome to chaos' lost twin
This is a fucking banger, I don't care what anyone else says.
The most dangerous foe yet the cube of rubik. (Night at the museum 2 reference)
i jerk off to rean porn
I see that just like me the rest of the comment section also sees the Cube as a pain in the ass.
I don＇t get why people dislike this，this is actually like one of the best boss theme smh
because they enjoy hating good things like this boss theme
Guess they dont know the real Music/Art hence the hate
Falcom fans only care about one style of chord progression and anything outside that norm is cringe
@@GanymedePrincss
Falcom fans only want one thing and it's fucking disgusting
Da...... Dadada.........
this is good
This is some Attack On Titan and Parasyte The Maxim Shit combined. I love it.😎👍👌💪
It's pretty solid overall, but man, some better lead guitar sound would do wonders for this track. It's really a shame that so many of Singa's tracks are brought down by that one aspect. I could also do without the usual EDM synth in the chorus, but that's more of a taste thing.
edit: wow apparently I had much higher tolerance for Singa's nonsense 2 years ago.
I really like singa's songs except that guitar. Honestly makes me want to remake the songs with a different guitar.
gud intro, typical Singa
falcom really be like
'we're stealing fof from singa rpg'
Next they're going to steal your rejected tracks.
The intro is actually quite nice, but for the rest, Singa really needs to replace that main guitar of his for something that matches his heavier stuff. 1:09 just sounds bad.
Also someday the FOFcube will have its revenge.
The intro was good... It doesn't feel really cohesive after, it feels like it was stretched in order to reach the 2 minute mark. 7/10. If you guys see me rating, it's just a marker to know which tracks I like or dislike. Of course, you see the rating more often on the Singa ones but it's because I'm not the biggest fan of his music. Though you can see that I mostly put 7 or higher because I don't believe that his songs are complete garbage but still need a bit of polishing. I'd also like to add that you can like Singa more than I do and I won't judge, if you hate Singa's music then just say and don't be too toxic about it. I myself almost feel that by constantly saying things about Singa, I am myself feeling that I am becoming toxic. I hope that I don't feel too toxic and if you saw some of my previous comments please say if I'm too extra. Just don't confuse being toxic and expressing your opinion.
Wanted to say, I don't think you're toxic at all. In all the comments of yours I've seen, you're calm, polite, and rational.
@@MaskedKingDavid That's reassuring. I just don't want to be the guy ruining other people's experience by being toxic. By the way, I could say the same thing to you, I always see you as calm, polite, and rational and it's always a pleasure to converse with you.
@@CS2Malk Thanks man. It's always great talking to you too.
I like this one, now who on earth is the composer?
Can't be Sonoda, N, Jindo or Unisuga. A lot of the instrumentation feels like Singa, but at the same time I feel like something is a bit off to be him. I just don't see it for some reason. Personally, my guess (as far-fetched as it sounds) is that this is one of Koguchi's Ys IX rejects and Falcom just decided to use it here for some reason.
Y'know what, never mind. The more I hear this the more I feel like it has to be Singa. Still seems a bit off for him tho.
I liked singa more in general this game, but man this gives me a headache...
Sigh...
Kek
Another masterpiece from maestro.
Please look forward to Singa RPG
POPCORN DRUMS
Pseudo musicians when they hear a snare drum
Cool intro but man this lead guitar and the synth is NOT it.
I don't like this song personally, it's like a concentrate of all the tropes in hard rock I dislike.
I stopped expecting anything remotely listenable from Singa a long time ago (or did I ever have any positive expectations towards his work to begin with?) and so should anyone else. XD
Sunny bullying Mondblut is a redemption arc I can get behind
Your taste is bad and you should feel bad.
the chad sunnyseviper vs the virgin people with wrong opinions.
@SunnySeviper 526 I think you replied to the wrong guy. I was saying that in response to a somone who claimed that "others shouldn't expect anything good out of Singa" because THEY THEMSELVES didn't.
It's one thing to have an opinion that doesn't match with mine, it's another to be tasteless AND tactless, and that guy was both.
And gone is Sunny's comment. RIP.