thanks for this. exactly the comparison i was looking for. i am using ryzen 3600 with rtx 4070 and after looking at so many reviews and benchmarks i had totally made up my mind to buy 5700x3d as everywhere it showed the difference will be huge including comments of everyone. but none of the comparisons were based on these 2. here in your video it shows there's hardly any gains. so now i am more confused lol.
you need to look at the 1% and 0.1% lows. Even if the average fps is similar across both, the 5700X3D boosts the 1% lows in a number of games so it will feel a lot smoother even if the average fps goesn't go up by much
@@darthslash yes i'm aware of the 0.1% & 1% lows as that's what everybody was talking about but do you see here in this test there's hardly any diff even in that. i had made up my mind to buy 5700x3d but now after looking at this i don't want to spend $285 for this minimal diff. i have ryzen 3600 + rtx 4070 and i play on 1440p and this test sums up for me.
Tests aren't done properly for many of those. They are mostly gated by the GPU, it's almost almost always under a full load when you look for it. You should compare the headroom that the CPU gives.
@@anthonymurphy342 5700 looses even to a 5600 becouse its zen 2 even tho the 5600 is zen 3 becouse the 5700 is bassically the 5700g without the integrated graphics
How good hey?! I use my PC for 10 hours a day minimum. 8 hours work and maybe 2 hours gaming of a night. Ryzen 3600 and RX 6600 - it just purs along with everything I throw at it. I don't really own or play any games newer than ~2018 and I'm all about 1080p.
While in some games, that are more cpu limited, then yes the 5700 is quite an upgrade, however it shows even in the games that the 5700 blows the 3600 away in, the 3600 is still generating a totally fine fps rate for playing those games, granted if playing on a stupidly fast refresh monitors, or perhaps at a push if people are playing compedativly then the 5700 might be better in some cases, but for the general person, these tests seem to show the 3600 still seems to hold its own even today.
In the first game in 1080p it is at the GPU limit. Just like with RDR2. In a test, the games run in 720p, for example, to see where the limit of the CPUs is.
@@Nost2682 Yeah like the Cyberpunk test you can see the 4070 is maxed out at 1080p even since it's 97% utilization for both cpus. Meanwhile the 5700x is only at 40% utilization.
What's the point if you can't see what the CPU can do? In many games it's at the GPU limit even at 1080p and there are also some that have a faster GPU than a 4070.
@@Nost2682 #those people should watch a comparison video showing a 4080 or 4090 :-) This video is for the people who own a 4070 or similar and for them it wont make any sense to watch a test with a 4090 either, lol. For people like me who play AAA games in 1440p with ultra details, the test shows exactly what I wanted to know: namely, that upgrading from my 3600 Ryzen using a 4070super is not worth it, or only very rarely. There is no question that the 5700x3D is better, but why do I care what fps I could have in 1080p and low settings for example, if I don't play that way.
@@rifle1337 If you want to see how fast your graphics card is, then you look at a GPU test, but not a CPU test and this is a CPU comparison and not a GPU comparison. There are times, I think, I have to take colored pencils and draw something so that some people understand it. The complete AVG Fps of the CPU are falsified because the GPU is limited and you don't do that in a CPU comparison. It's like comparing 2 cars, but setting the maximum speed to 60. Both cars are equally fast, so I don't need a test for that.
@@Nost2682You are missing the point. We already know the 5700x3d is generally faster. Yes it would be an improvement when using a 4080 or 4090, but the benchmark shows that it would be a waste of money upgrading from a 3600 to a 5700x3d when using 4070. For single player games at 1440p there is little difference. And the increase in online competitive games is worthless when youre already getting a framerate higher than your monitors Hz.
@@chunkylover48 It's not just about the Max Fps. If I buy a 144Hz monitor, I want to stay in that range and not drop to 50 fps, as a drop to 80 is much more pleasant. I myself switched from a 3600 to the 5700x3D and play in UWQHD and even then I notice the difference. And the minimum fps are particularly important in online games like WoW or shooters. Of course, games like CS or Rainbow Six have so many fps that it doesn't matter which of the two CPUs you play with. But there are so many other games where the 3600 is just too slow. My main concern is that this is a CPU test and even in 1080p the GPU is limited and you can't see what the CPU can do, the tests with 1440p etc. are completely OK for me.
For those of you that already have a 3600 ryzen procesor you won't need any cpu upgrades on this platform if you already have a 1440p monitor because a part of the cpu load will go into gpu basically balancing their usage properly, most people buy more expensive cpus like 5800x3d or 7800x3d for AM5 that will benefit more on the 1080p side where cpu is more intensive, the higher the resolution the less usage will be applied on the procesor and more on the gpu. By all means you guys can buy whatever you would preffer, I don't want to feel like I'm forcing someone to buy what I perceive as "a must buy" its just a personal view that I would like to share to help few people spend some of their $ on other parts that could probably help better. Cpus like x3d variants help with 1% and 0.1% in some games that feel a little smoother but at the end of the day, on my personal gaming pc I hardly noticed that much difference to really seek that upgrade ( I own both 5800x3d and 7800x3d )
So I have no reason to upgrade the godly 3600 yet. I paired it with 4070 super. Playing games on an Ultrawide 3440x1440p 34" monitor + 4K 32" for content viewing. Has AM5 matured yet?
I've the R5 3600 and a GTX1080. Want to get an RTX 4070 but I'm worried about bottlenecks. However, there is a very relevant test here: Red Dead Redemption 2. I used to get around 50 - 60 fps average on it with the current setup, 1080p. The increase here with the 4070 is twofold. Maybe the chip can wait...
Я использую 5 3600 + 4070 (пересел с 1070). Процессора ак раз хватает для 4070. Но если вы захотите уже в будущем новую видеокарту, то лучше будет сменить полностью ПК (новый процессор + материнская плата + озу + видеокарта). Но для текущего процессора 4070 очень хорошо подходит.
Probably. The 2060 is starting to show its age now. It’s still worth a decent amount of money which can go towards a new cpu. I sold my 1660 and bought a 3060 12gb on sale for like 250. The 1660 sold for 120 so i basically only spent 130 dollars. I’m still using my Ryzen 5 3600 with my 3060 but I’m planning to upgrade it.
I have a 4070S which i got recently. Had a 3600 Ryzen for a few years now and was going to get a 5700x3d. I game in 1440p, this video suggests I'd be wasting my money on the newer CPU.
you wont waste it, i have 3600 and i've played the same games and the fps is no where near to this test i get way less fps and stuttering from time to time so im gonna switch anyways
@@Aaron-ng3efA gpu bottleneck is preferable than a cpu bottleneck. It's actually good that your gpu is the one doing all the work instead of the cpu cause it means it is beong pushed to it's peak performance.
Obviously 32 mb of L3 Cache means alot, anything less then that is not enough if lower frequencies. 5600x also have 32 mb of L3 cache but higher freq. so its almost same in performance as 5700x3d wich has 96 mb of L3 cache, but lower freq.
Thank you for the comparison, but you should not up resolutions or make the game run in ultra when you're comparing CPUs. Your GPU eill bottleneck the test, and it happened in many games. It goes to show that a 3600 is capable of bottlenecking a 4070, but it doesn't show what truly are the differences between them unlike in games like Fortnite
Actually, that test was perfect for me. I have a 3700x (and the 4070), and I was planning on switching to the 5700x. If the increase is not that much I rather wait to get a new mobo, because I like to play games all maxed out.
difference in some cases was small due to GPU bottleneck due to author tested with high settings, this test just show that 5700x3d can handle stronger gpu than 4070, what gpu optimal for 5700x3d is other question, but probably something like 4080.
@@sandornyemcsok4168 Always these blanket statements. It depends on what you play. Games like World of Warcraft benefit greatly from an X3D CPU. I switched from a 3600 to the 5700x3D and had a minimum of 24 fps in a fight, with the X3D in the same fight it was 60-70 fps. And I'm talking about worst case scenario here.
i am surprised. i went from a 5600x to a 7800x3d. the jump is quite similar compared to 3600/5700x3d. i use a 3080 which is quite similar to a 4070, too. i game at 1440p and i had the experience that the difference is quite huge. basically all games i can remember apex, destiny2, borderlands 3, tiny tina, which i play at high refreshrates had fps drops to around ~150 fps. after switching to the 7800x3d apex rock solid 240 fps and the other games never below 200 fps. 1% low on all games around 30 % higher. why is this so different?
A lot of gpu bound games. And the gpus in some cases are not over 90% utilized, so there is a cpu bottleneck even on 5700x3d in a few games shown. Would need 7800x3d or better to get them closer to 90%. No games here that take advantage of 3d cache by the looks. Overall youre fine even on 3600. Simply because gpus matter more in modern games
I've been running this exact setup for 6 months and I haven't had a single problem yet. I considered the 5700x3d until I watched this video, so you're fine sticking with the 3600.
I have r5 3600x and rx 7800xt. Got gpu week ago, didn't test it much... Getting bottlenecks in PUBG and dota 2 at 1440p. I will try Fortnite and Warzone and see what happens... In dota is so weird, tried 1080p, 1440p and 4k resolutions, both low details and ultra details, and always getting 90 fps...Later will try more games but I think it's hard bottleneck in my case...
@@joefraser5551 5700x3d makes the most sense since it's basically the best gaming cpu on the am4 platform aside from 5800x3d (too expensive at $300 still) and only costs $40-50 more than the normal 5700x.
@@DemonLordGamingAC0 For people like me who play AAA games in 1440p with ultra details, the test shows exactly what I wanted to know: namely, that upgrading from my 3600 Ryzen using a 4070super is not worth it, or only very rarely. There is no question that the 5700x3D is better, but why do I care what fps I could have with CSGO in 1080p and low settings for example, if I don't have or play any games like that?
Meh... I might just upgrade my GPU first and then see if I need to upgrade something else. R5 3600 will probably be able to game a while longer at 1440p. Also, this video was for me much more about what Ryzen 5 3600 can do with a better GPU than my current 1660 Super 😅 and it can still definitely deliver some good FPS at 1440p.
Thnx for the this. I'm running 3700x witb 2070S, to be honest, no issues at all, perfect almost 4 years, not a single problem from day 1,,,but, awaiting any day to arrive combo deal 7800x3d from Microcenter. Upgrading to AM5 with current 2070s, psu and case,,,will see how it goes, what improves for mainly playing CS2,,,if any 😂
If your GPU isn’t bottlenecked by your CPU, it’s usually not worth to upgrade. Ie, if you got 4080 or 4090, 3600 probably can’t keep up the GPU (60%-70% utility)
As someone still using a 60hz screen, I can't wrap my head around why I would upgrade from my 3600. Selling it for €70 and then buying a new CPU for €200, and receiving 5 fps extra in Cyberpunk, is not a good use of my money lol xD
His GPU is maxed out with both CPUs (97% utilization for both), so it's not the best test. In your case buying a better monitor with higher refresh would definitely be a better use of money, the r5 3600 can still get 80-100fps in a lot of modern games so it wouldn't be a wasted upgrade.
You not doing the test correctly for eg. In fortnite if you use dlss or fsr you will see the the difference when the frames go up the 3600 wont be able to keep up
All those videos with 4090 ... A person with 4090 would not use these CPUs haha. All you need is a CPU that can bring your GPU load 90+%. This task becomes easier as you: 1) Go up in resolution 2) Worse GPU.
You probably have the bottleneck, if you see in the in 1:04, Fornite at 1080p the GPU is working with less percent than CPU so you should check with your PC if it happens the same if not maybe manage the PC ventilation
La diferencia se nota más que todo en juegos competitivos, más fps. En general el rendimiento es muy similar debido a la tarjeta gráfica. estaba pensando en cambiar mi 5600g, pero por mucho le pondría una 7800xt, así que no valdría la pena el cambio
You are almost there. This is the whole idea of the video, testing real life scenarios and see if the gpu will be the bottleneck or the cpu, you were close gj.
This test is to show the difference between the R5 3600 and R7 5700X3D with the RTX 4070. In some games you do get an advantage with the 5700X3D but not all.
I like this test exactly with 4070. It looks like real situation, when you`re in doubt, should you upgrage your 3600 if you`re gonna buy 4070 and lower. I think my 3600 is the best choice with 2060 :) And even after buyng 4070 I still don`t need to change my CPU
Yes 720p or lower is better, but imo it's better to get high settings because there are some intensive cpu tweaks too, like physics This video has a lot of gpu bottleneck 😢
I cannot see the point. There are other videos like that and then this video would not add much information to what is already presented by other testers. This is very good because it is a real life scenario, and shows very well that if you crank up the graphics settings (with a middle class GPU), what everybody does in real life, the CPU does not make as much difference.
thanks for this. exactly the comparison i was looking for. i am using ryzen 3600 with rtx 4070 and after looking at so many reviews and benchmarks i had totally made up my mind to buy 5700x3d as everywhere it showed the difference will be huge including comments of everyone. but none of the comparisons were based on these 2. here in your video it shows there's hardly any gains. so now i am more confused lol.
you need to look at the 1% and 0.1% lows. Even if the average fps is similar across both, the 5700X3D boosts the 1% lows in a number of games so it will feel a lot smoother even if the average fps goesn't go up by much
@@darthslash yes i'm aware of the 0.1% & 1% lows as that's what everybody was talking about but do you see here in this test there's hardly any diff even in that. i had made up my mind to buy 5700x3d but now after looking at this i don't want to spend $285 for this minimal diff. i have ryzen 3600 + rtx 4070 and i play on 1440p and this test sums up for me.
@@bCoOL90Because this test is GPU limited. If u will buy 5 or 6xxx in the future 3600 will be dead as f.
Tests aren't done properly for many of those. They are mostly gated by the GPU, it's almost almost always under a full load when you look for it.
You should compare the headroom that the CPU gives.
@@Anakeish I'm not looking at future, I'm looking at now.
Perfecto comparison. Resolutions people will use and side by side execution
Thanks! :)
im so happy with my ryzen 5 3600 . Only $60 dollars in Black Friday
Very good budget cpu if u plan on upgrading I just found a Reyzen 5 5600x on sale with Amazon for 120$ world of difference
@@frostyfiber3750 You do realize that cpu wont be that much of a difference if the r7 5700 isnt a big jump right .
@@anthonymurphy342 5700 looses even to a 5600 becouse its zen 2 even tho the 5600 is zen 3 becouse the 5700 is bassically the 5700g without the integrated graphics
How good hey?!
I use my PC for 10 hours a day minimum. 8 hours work and maybe 2 hours gaming of a night.
Ryzen 3600 and RX 6600 - it just purs along with everything I throw at it.
I don't really own or play any games newer than ~2018 and I'm all about 1080p.
@@CmndaPnda With DLSS, FSR, and frame generation, you can play all the newest games as well :) It literally doubles your frames
3600 is timeless masterpiece.
yes😍
@@ItaGam Trying to figure out if ryzen 5 3600 should be upgrade to ryzen 7 5700x3d for rx7800xt cant find any results
@@cbinsanity5498yes u should, makes a world of difference
1440p price/performance king
fact im using 3600XT
While in some games, that are more cpu limited, then yes the 5700 is quite an upgrade, however it shows even in the games that the 5700 blows the 3600 away in, the 3600 is still generating a totally fine fps rate for playing those games, granted if playing on a stupidly fast refresh monitors, or perhaps at a push if people are playing compedativly then the 5700 might be better in some cases, but for the general person, these tests seem to show the 3600 still seems to hold its own even today.
In the first game in 1080p it is at the GPU limit.
Just like with RDR2.
In a test, the games run in 720p, for example, to see where the limit of the CPUs is.
@@Nost2682 Yeah like the Cyberpunk test you can see the 4070 is maxed out at 1080p even since it's 97% utilization for both cpus. Meanwhile the 5700x is only at 40% utilization.
Finally a cpu test for real situations, ty
What's the point if you can't see what the CPU can do? In many games it's at the GPU limit even at 1080p and there are also some that have a faster GPU than a 4070.
@@Nost2682 #those people should watch a comparison video showing a 4080 or 4090 :-) This video is for the people who own a 4070 or similar and for them it wont make any sense to watch a test with a 4090 either, lol. For people like me who play AAA games in 1440p with ultra details, the test shows exactly what I wanted to know: namely, that upgrading from my 3600 Ryzen using a 4070super is not worth it, or only very rarely. There is no question that the 5700x3D is better, but why do I care what fps I could have in 1080p and low settings for example, if I don't play that way.
@@rifle1337 If you want to see how fast your graphics card is, then you look at a GPU test, but not a CPU test and this is a CPU comparison and not a GPU comparison.
There are times, I think, I have to take colored pencils and draw something so that some people understand it.
The complete AVG Fps of the CPU are falsified because the GPU is limited and you don't do that in a CPU comparison.
It's like comparing 2 cars, but setting the maximum speed to 60. Both cars are equally fast, so I don't need a test for that.
@@Nost2682You are missing the point. We already know the 5700x3d is generally faster. Yes it would be an improvement when using a 4080 or 4090, but the benchmark shows that it would be a waste of money upgrading from a 3600 to a 5700x3d when using 4070.
For single player games at 1440p there is little difference. And the increase in online competitive games is worthless when youre already getting a framerate higher than your monitors Hz.
@@chunkylover48 It's not just about the Max Fps.
If I buy a 144Hz monitor, I want to stay in that range and not drop to 50 fps, as a drop to 80 is much more pleasant.
I myself switched from a 3600 to the 5700x3D and play in UWQHD and even then I notice the difference.
And the minimum fps are particularly important in online games like WoW or shooters.
Of course, games like CS or Rainbow Six have so many fps that it doesn't matter which of the two CPUs you play with.
But there are so many other games where the 3600 is just too slow.
My main concern is that this is a CPU test and even in 1080p the GPU is limited and you can't see what the CPU can do, the tests with 1440p etc. are completely OK for me.
For those of you that already have a 3600 ryzen procesor you won't need any cpu upgrades on this platform if you already have a 1440p monitor because a part of the cpu load will go into gpu basically balancing their usage properly, most people buy more expensive cpus like 5800x3d or 7800x3d for AM5 that will benefit more on the 1080p side where cpu is more intensive, the higher the resolution the less usage will be applied on the procesor and more on the gpu. By all means you guys can buy whatever you would preffer, I don't want to feel like I'm forcing someone to buy what I perceive as "a must buy" its just a personal view that I would like to share to help few people spend some of their $ on other parts that could probably help better. Cpus like x3d variants help with 1% and 0.1% in some games that feel a little smoother but at the end of the day, on my personal gaming pc I hardly noticed that much difference to really seek that upgrade ( I own both 5800x3d and 7800x3d )
So I have no reason to upgrade the godly 3600 yet. I paired it with 4070 super. Playing games on an Ultrawide 3440x1440p 34" monitor + 4K 32" for content viewing. Has AM5 matured yet?
I've the R5 3600 and a GTX1080. Want to get an RTX 4070 but I'm worried about bottlenecks.
However, there is a very relevant test here: Red Dead Redemption 2. I used to get around 50 - 60 fps average on it with the current setup, 1080p. The increase here with the 4070 is twofold. Maybe the chip can wait...
Я использую 5 3600 + 4070 (пересел с 1070). Процессора ак раз хватает для 4070. Но если вы захотите уже в будущем новую видеокарту, то лучше будет сменить полностью ПК (новый процессор + материнская плата + озу + видеокарта). Но для текущего процессора 4070 очень хорошо подходит.
@@fallenwerewolf I see. I might get a 5800x3D as well for good measure. But there's only so much money I can spend all at once.
You're better off upgrading GPU first since the 3600 can still handle modern games.
@@Flyon86 I got an RTX 4070 and Ryzen 7 5800x3D. It's all smooth as a baby's face...
@@Jaeger_89 Yeah that's a good combo. Should last you for a good while.
With an RTX 2060 and a Ryzen 5 3600 it seems that it would make more sense to upgrade my graphics card first.
Probably. The 2060 is starting to show its age now. It’s still worth a decent amount of money which can go towards a new cpu. I sold my 1660 and bought a 3060 12gb on sale for like 250. The 1660 sold for 120 so i basically only spent 130 dollars. I’m still using my Ryzen 5 3600 with my 3060 but I’m planning to upgrade it.
@@caboose6411 im still using my 3600 with my 3070, but im planning to upgrade the card exactly )
@@mooncult88 Dont neglect your monitor. If you up the resolution to 1440p, cpu bottlenecks become far less relevant.
Me too.
@@Andytlp it's actually 1440/144hz
I was gonna upgrade but it seems theres not much difference unless you have a gpu better than the 4070?
I have a 4070S which i got recently. Had a 3600 Ryzen for a few years now and was going to get a 5700x3d. I game in 1440p, this video suggests I'd be wasting my money on the newer CPU.
I’m in the same boat right now
you wont waste it, i have 3600 and i've played the same games and the fps is no where near to this test i get way less fps and stuttering from time to time so im gonna switch anyways
I recently upgraded from 3600 to 5700x3d. Completely worth it, stuttering reduced by a significant amount
All this video "suggests" is that a faster CPU doesn't help when you have a GPU bottleneck... ;-)
@@Aaron-ng3efA gpu bottleneck is preferable than a cpu bottleneck. It's actually good that your gpu is the one doing all the work instead of the cpu cause it means it is beong pushed to it's peak performance.
Obviously 32 mb of L3 Cache means alot, anything less then that is not enough if lower frequencies. 5600x also have 32 mb of L3 cache but higher freq. so its almost same in performance as 5700x3d wich has 96 mb of L3 cache, but lower freq.
Good test, thank you, was about to buy a Ryzen 5800x3d-5700x3d for my rx 6800 xt, now it will wait.
Same lol xD
What was your decision today? I also have 3600 with 6800xt.
@@TodoLokoYB Hello, I bought from Aliexpress with sales a 5700X3D some days ago, I paid 170€ but you can pay even less during the sales.
Tanks for the test, my 3600 will be fine for more 1 or 2 years to come
Thank you for the comparison, but you should not up resolutions or make the game run in ultra when you're comparing CPUs. Your GPU eill bottleneck the test, and it happened in many games.
It goes to show that a 3600 is capable of bottlenecking a 4070, but it doesn't show what truly are the differences between them unlike in games like Fortnite
Actually, that test was perfect for me. I have a 3700x (and the 4070), and I was planning on switching to the 5700x. If the increase is not that much I rather wait to get a new mobo, because I like to play games all maxed out.
difference in some cases was small due to GPU bottleneck due to author tested with high settings, this test just show that 5700x3d can handle stronger gpu than 4070, what gpu optimal for 5700x3d is other question, but probably something like 4080.
@@Inokentych
This test also shows that if you cannot afford a GPU of 4070 or above, do not waste money on CPU upgrade if you are on R5 3600 😉
@@sandornyemcsok4168 Always these blanket statements.
It depends on what you play. Games like World of Warcraft benefit greatly from an X3D CPU.
I switched from a 3600 to the 5700x3D and had a minimum of 24 fps in a fight, with the X3D in the same fight it was 60-70 fps. And I'm talking about worst case scenario here.
Dang thanks. Almost bought a cpu before a gpu glad to know my cpu can still handle it a bit. Though i have a 3500.
the first logical test what I found - testing low-budget processors on high-end graphics cards makes no sense- bravo
My 4 years old 3600 is still here to stay, paired with RTX A2000 OC on my 5l mini PC
i am surprised. i went from a 5600x to a 7800x3d. the jump is quite similar compared to 3600/5700x3d. i use a 3080 which is quite similar to a 4070, too. i game at 1440p and i had the experience that the difference is quite huge. basically all games i can remember apex, destiny2, borderlands 3, tiny tina, which i play at high refreshrates had fps drops to around ~150 fps. after switching to the 7800x3d apex rock solid 240 fps and the other games never below 200 fps. 1% low on all games around 30 % higher.
why is this so different?
Can you tell your cpu's bios settings? also using ryzen 5 3600
do u also have the fps drops? I dont even have a half of his fps in fortnite. My fps between 100-170 fps
@@taaye_ fornite is very cpu intensive
Is 5700x3D +Rtx 4070 is a good combi? Im planning to buy
Hope I'm not late, but yeah, it's a solid 1440p combo for every modern game. If a 3600 can handle the 4070 really well, a 5700x3d is more than enough.
@@JackOfHearts_cr thankyou boss
@@falsegodess2527 got you 🫡
A lot of gpu bound games. And the gpus in some cases are not over 90% utilized, so there is a cpu bottleneck even on 5700x3d in a few games shown. Would need 7800x3d or better to get them closer to 90%. No games here that take advantage of 3d cache by the looks. Overall youre fine even on 3600. Simply because gpus matter more in modern games
I have 3700x & 4070 with random spike like 5 fps should i upgrade cpu? Please help 😢 i try everything but nothing works
Try overclocking your cpu and do some undervolting, will increase performance by abit
the 3700x is going to bottleneck the 4070 quite substantially in CPU heavy games, not much you can really do
i think 3600 + rx 7800xt at 1440p is enough
i hope
I've been running this exact setup for 6 months and I haven't had a single problem yet. I considered the 5700x3d until I watched this video, so you're fine sticking with the 3600.
I have r5 3600x and rx 7800xt. Got gpu week ago, didn't test it much... Getting bottlenecks in PUBG and dota 2 at 1440p. I will try Fortnite and Warzone and see what happens... In dota is so weird, tried 1080p, 1440p and 4k resolutions, both low details and ultra details, and always getting 90 fps...Later will try more games but I think it's hard bottleneck in my case...
@@joefraser5551 5700x3d makes the most sense since it's basically the best gaming cpu on the am4 platform aside from 5800x3d (too expensive at $300 still) and only costs $40-50 more than the normal 5700x.
Something weird with your GPU usage, no ? Or 3600 bottlenecks gpu even if CPU usage is 30% ?
You need a bigger GPU to see the true power of the 5700 x3d
You need to put graphics on low, not ultra
@@DemonLordGamingAC0 For people like me who play AAA games in 1440p with ultra details, the test shows exactly what I wanted to know: namely, that upgrading from my 3600 Ryzen using a 4070super is not worth it, or only very rarely. There is no question that the 5700x3D is better, but why do I care what fps I could have with CSGO in 1080p and low settings for example, if I don't have or play any games like that?
Great review
How do you get so many FPS on Fortnite performance? I run a 3060ti but I'm mostly CPU limited to like 140fps in 1080p
do u fix this?
atleast give comparison with RTS, simulator game that usually CPU bound
Is it fine to upgrade to a 5600 with an rtx 4070?
thank you bro. saved me 200 bucks lol
Meh... I might just upgrade my GPU first and then see if I need to upgrade something else. R5 3600 will probably be able to game a while longer at 1440p.
Also, this video was for me much more about what Ryzen 5 3600 can do with a better GPU than my current 1660 Super 😅 and it can still definitely deliver some good FPS at 1440p.
Thnx for the this. I'm running 3700x witb 2070S, to be honest, no issues at all, perfect almost 4 years, not a single problem from day 1,,,but, awaiting any day to arrive combo deal 7800x3d from Microcenter. Upgrading to AM5 with current 2070s, psu and case,,,will see how it goes, what improves for mainly playing CS2,,,if any 😂
Thank you for testing fornite. A lot of reviews don't test it anymore.
The 3600 is a beast.
If your GPU isn’t bottlenecked by your CPU, it’s usually not worth to upgrade. Ie, if you got 4080 or 4090, 3600 probably can’t keep up the GPU (60%-70% utility)
3500x vs 5700x3D ?
wow, i thought there would be a major difference in performance in 1440p gaming. there's really not that much
you just saved me 200 euros thanx! :)
As someone still using a 60hz screen, I can't wrap my head around why I would upgrade from my 3600. Selling it for €70 and then buying a new CPU for €200, and receiving 5 fps extra in Cyberpunk, is not a good use of my money lol xD
His GPU is maxed out with both CPUs (97% utilization for both), so it's not the best test. In your case buying a better monitor with higher refresh would definitely be a better use of money, the r5 3600 can still get 80-100fps in a lot of modern games so it wouldn't be a wasted upgrade.
You not doing the test correctly for eg. In fortnite if you use dlss or fsr you will see the the difference when the frames go up the 3600 wont be able to keep up
3600x is not good for FullHD. Its good for QHD.
If you change to QHD, you will have the same FPS, like in FullHD before.
soo It's not a big difference in 1440P?
All those videos with 4090 ... A person with 4090 would not use these CPUs haha. All you need is a CPU that can bring your GPU load 90+%. This task becomes easier as you: 1) Go up in resolution 2) Worse GPU.
i have a problem i have r5 3600 and 4070 super with 1080p and my average is only 170 and it drops to 45 sometimes in fortnite
You probably have the bottleneck, if you see in the in 1:04, Fornite at 1080p the GPU is working with less percent than CPU so you should check with your PC if it happens the same if not maybe manage the PC ventilation
did u fix it somehow?
I assume my Be quiet pure rock 2 will handle the 5700x3d
5700 is for FHD and 2k, 3600 is for 2k. 3600 ist not good in FHD and high fps.
Se esse video for real, com tão pouca diferença de performce, não troco meu 3600 tão cedo.
Упор в видеокарту идёт. Какую ты производительность увидел
a troca só faria sentido pra jogar R6/Fortnite/Valorant/CSGO em monitor de 240hz+ pra ter estabilidade
@@ikki3430 pois é! Eu só jogo AAA, campanha em geral e em QHD. Não tem motivo pra sair do meu 3600
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La diferencia se nota más que todo en juegos competitivos, más fps. En general el rendimiento es muy similar debido a la tarjeta gráfica. estaba pensando en cambiar mi 5600g, pero por mucho le pondría una 7800xt, así que no valdría la pena el cambio
U need lower ur game setting to test CPU performance. it look bottleneck.
You are almost there. This is the whole idea of the video, testing real life scenarios and see if the gpu will be the bottleneck or the cpu, you were close gj.
In 4k games are gpu bound and not cou bound....but still R5 3600 ...is competing hat's off 😮😊
Im a little scared to put a 5700X3D on my b350m-a. I've got a 3070 and want to milk this board for another few years
In almost all cases there is a GPU bottleneck so this is useless data
Then, no point upgrading from 3600 to 5700x3d when playing at 1440 (RX7800XT) 🤭
Это не тест процессоров. Это тест видеокарты.
Вывод, если видеокарта RTX 4070 ,то хватит даже Ryzen 5 3600 ,а потом уже можно сделать апгрейд по процессору 5700X3D.
Not a valid comparison with gpu bottlenecking
This test is to show the difference between the R5 3600 and R7 5700X3D with the RTX 4070. In some games you do get an advantage with the 5700X3D but not all.
I like this test exactly with 4070. It looks like real situation, when you`re in doubt, should you upgrage your 3600 if you`re gonna buy 4070 and lower. I think my 3600 is the best choice with 2060 :) And even after buyng 4070 I still don`t need to change my CPU
Ryzen 5 3600 the best budget beast cpu ive ever had.
no difference in 144hz monitors. good upgrade for 360hz monitors.
720p low setting is the best for CPU testing in game
Yes 720p or lower is better, but imo it's better to get high settings because there are some intensive cpu tweaks too, like physics
This video has a lot of gpu bottleneck 😢
also: who actually plays in 720p? 🤔
lmao sure
where is naraka
not difference big fps ryzen 7 5700x 3d vs ryzen 5 3600 no way!!
3600 big! 1440! 4k?
Можно и дальше сидеть на 3600 :) а потом на AM5
No one difference
morale: upgrade GPU
BS if you believe this your believe anything
You are GPU bound most of the tests. Use lower settings to test CPU's or use higher end GPU.
I cannot see the point. There are other videos like that and then this video would not add much information to what is already presented by other testers. This is very good because it is a real life scenario, and shows very well that if you crank up the graphics settings (with a middle class GPU), what everybody does in real life, the CPU does not make as much difference.
Smartest pcmasterrace redditor:
You won't be playing with Low settings on a 4070...
@@sandornyemcsok4168 4070 is not a real life gpu , most ppl still using 1080 or 1660 since 5700x3d can be considered as quite budget cpu