@@hatespeach9835 I actually enjoyed that one. about the only one I did enjoy, would not be hard to scrape it and find the user and bulk purchase all for sale and relist.
There was a guy who didn't actually cheat. He did steal a bike but he didn't cheat in the tournament. So he had the same bikes as anybody else but didn't had to go trugh the stupid single player campaing to get it. So he legetimally won the tournament but because the bike was stolen he didn't get to win even tho he came first. And rules about stealing/hacking the bikes wasn't there when he applied. So he should have fun the tournament!
They'll send in Dmitri to simulate random breakdowns, and rumors have it that some of the funds go into rescue puppies to simulate random dogs walking across the path... And yes, they go in the same bucket as the water.
"esports that involve killing dont really vibe with the olypics" The olympics, which was literally founded to showcase an individual's military strength
The 20 people who won and were then found to be doping is cool and all, but imagine how suspicious they must be of the one dude who still somehow beat them all at the height of their scam.
You should know that using another rider's power output will be detectable through fourier transform. The same methods that assist in finding known signals in noise will cut through essentially any amount of noise and distortion you add on top of the other rider's profile.
@@petermuller608 Lets look at that for a minute though. Lets say you take an entire album in flac and you apply noise to it in the time domain. You multiply that by the original flac and you will get a very obvious positive match even if the noise is an order of magnitude greater than the signal, which would already outside the physically possible bounds for this ebike data. If any point in you data says that you're producing 15kw, you are cheating. So lets do what you suggested and take the same album, calculate the DCT of it. Then we're just going to apply some noise to the DCT and perform an inverse DCT to get our data with frequency domain noise added. How do we detect that? Well its exactly as simple as detecting a signal with time domain data. All we have to do is apply a DCT to the data we're looking for and compare it with the fake data, multiply them together and again, we get a very clear match. For the faker, however, adding frequency domain noise while keeping the time domain signal sane is much, much, much harder. So while you're right, adding frequency domain noise is mathematically trivial, it is equally trivial to detect. There's no reasonable amount of uniform noise or distortion you can add to a large enough data set that will not be detectable, regardless of the domain. Note that I said "mathematically trivial" and not just "trivial". Adding frequency domain noise (or, realistically, noise and distortion across as many domains as you can) is just as trivial to detect as it is to fabricate but *not* as easy to forge and keep sane. Tools do not exist to do this, or at least I haven't found them. In my work on adaptive constellation QAM, which involves doing all of this stuff I've just talked about, I've had to write everything myself (modifying the data, I still use FFTW3 for DCT/DFT). We're no longer in "trivial" territory. Hopefully this makes sense.
"Winners never cheat. Cheaters never win. Hackers sometimes cheat for fun." Therefore a hacker is not a winner; but some other nebulous thing* that is also not a loser. After all, if you're not having fun, what's the point? * wacky zany nutty funster
Virtual cycle UA-cam channels are POV camera montages of sweatybois in full cycling gear in their living rooms. It's actually kinda interesting from a purely clinical and technical perspective. But super weird.
I believe Gattaca had a running scene. "Jerome the Metronome" said Gore Vidal's character in the treadmill scene regarding Ethan Hawk's character's even heart rate. But he did cheat.
he explains eBike racing. me: oh sweet. so you can actually have a fair biking competition independent of peoples height/weight etc. him: the program actually accounts your height when calculating draft efficiency ......why??
jesus christ, those people in the 1800s on bicycles were psychos lmao, putting itching powder in their crotches and killing their muscles with stric9 and poisoning their water. imagine a girl bringing a cyclist home to her parents thinking i landed a nice gentleman who likes to bike. and hes out there almost killing everyone lmao
"we dont want to have sports that involve killing people...... even in fantisy video games but lets see how far you can throw a javelin..... or how accurate your aim with a bow and arrow is.... which was used to kill people for 1000s of years....." like.....Olympic javelin is LITERALLY scored on how far....AND!!! accurately you throw it... you miss the "center line"..... and you get a few feet taken off, depending on how far off you are.... yet people doing the EXACT SAME THING..... just going for head shots with a mouse and keyboard.... "oh thats violent...." like.... in real life..... if you get shot in the head with a 30-06 rifle your dead before you even hear the gun shot.... you feel no pain..... its just living one microsecond.... to dead the next microsecond G fucking G but a javelin wound.... you are going to slowly bleed out.... probably for 5 to 20 minutes..... in EXTREME pain all you can hope for is that you go into shock quickly.... and pass the fuck out but massive blood loss, shock, and the DEATH SCREAMS as the persons lungs fill up with blood and they slowly drown IN THEIR OWN FUCKING BLOOD!!!! "oh ya, thats TOTALLY fine.....we will just say the jav was never used in war...... and was the equivalent of playing darts at the bar" like.... are you fucking kidding me?
hell.... the Olympics have RIFLE SHOOTING!!! contests.... AKA how accurately a person can shoot a target (target = deer, rabbit, ETC...... or another human) but because its a round target with concentric circles..... and a red dot in the center.... its TOTALLY different than trying to hit a humans heart or brain.... like.... you are LITERALLY SHOOTING A FUCKING RIFLE!!!!!! seeing how accurately you can shoot the rifle.... which is military 101...... the more accurate your troops are..... the more your troops kill, and then less get killed -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PS.... i live in montana, and voted for oboma.... and hopefully sanders next election FUCK TRUMP yet..... banning rifles like the AR-15 is just stupid as fuck.... i dont own an AR.......bullet is too weak to ethically hunt deer and i dont do a lot of pelt/varmint hunting (aka coyotes and gophers) so id rather have an AR-10..... which NO ONE talks about... but instead of a 0.223 inch bullet.... the AR-10 fires a 0.308 bullet.... doesnt sound like a lot..... but when that extra 1/10th of an inch is going ~3000 feet a second..... its a MASSIVE difference the AR-10 is 30 round, semi automatic.... and looks EXACTLY like an AR-15 and.... again.... shoots a bullet TWO TO THREE TIMES MORE POWERFUL!!!! yet.... no one bitches about the AR-10..... probably because most anti-gun people have never seen a gun.... let alone held one and they DAMN sure havent had to protect their family/property/live stock a coyote can eat 10,000 dollars in baby cows a gopher can dig a hole that breaks a cows/horses leg..... so ya.... i kinda need 30 rounds of semi-auto fire power.... coyotes wont let you get close..... and its HARD to hit a moving target at 300 yards... and their are so many gophers.... that you can shoot 100 of them and the very next day.... their is 150 more babys....
And fencing where 2 of the 3 where one of the weapons has a combat form another could kill some one if the safety features are removed which is easy and the last is practice for the other two
Guns don´t kill instantly like in movies. Haven't you ever been hunting and had to track a deer? It has been shown that even after decapitation the brain is still alive for a few seconds.
@@Catcrumbs No, but I ignore texts and tell people they can try harder if they really want to talk to me. And I don't waste my time and electricity and help destroy the planet with carbon emissions when I already own a bicycle that not only gives me good exercise but actually has wheels and works as a bicycle.
You already established that this is a wireless interface with no encryption, so why bother trying to insert something into the wired endpoints at a live event? You don't need COTTONMOUTH-1, just MitM the wireless link itself.
If the bikes have bluetooth you could hack the bikes firmware wirelessly to give lower resistance the steeper the map gets but display the proper data..
The thing about virtual cycling esports is that actual cycling outside exists AND they do actual racing from point a to point b. Its an interesting topic but it's about a thing that doesn't need to exist
why not if you go to a gym and you want to do a little warm up why not turn on a short race win it be happy you beat other people and go do your workout.
Why it doesn't need to exist? It is one way to avoid the inconvenience for other people on the road. To make a real race, roads that are used for moving around must be closed down. This avoids that aspect of the "hosting" the event. You are not so time constraint on when you can have the event. I remember my coworker saying that they went home from one event and didn't know there was some cycling event. The roads were closed for the event and they had to take 60 km detour because the main bridge over one river was closed and next one was quite some distance away. Virtual event would not cause the roads to be closed down and like someone commented, you will not have weather affect the results. It is one way to avoid accidents and even medical staff can be on the live competitions at the site instead of having to go and look for cyclist who has had accident if it should happen (I do not know how often it could be, but I am sure some medical teams are on standby around the track), on e-cycling live events you can have less since there is no distance to cover. Of course for training most likely the cyclists actually go out on real streets and train there and maybe also the virtual one at evenings when it might be dark and more dangerous to cycle on streets/roads. It is not the same as on real streets, they try to emulate it, but emulation sometimes can go wrong for sure, so you as a cyclist should know the real road and virtual cycling differences.
it's pretty universal for decades now, and it's serial in contrast to parallel, basically an upgrade to RS232 or what it's called, and it is usually muxed, like a bus.
it allows devices with different functionalities, input, output, storage=universal it uses a single data line = serial you can have usb hubs attached to a single port = route traffic for several devices on a single line = a bus
@DEFCON Conference You mentioned facedancer. Check out a new board called the GreatFET One that does the same thing and more, faster. It basically can emulate any type of USB peripheral plus has a bunch of different protocols, 100 gpio pins, and soon they are going to be offering add on boards that do some really cool stuff called neighbors
Why not just turn the pedal shaft with an electric motor(hell use an old power drill) just put it on a trigger and figure out the wattage that wont trigger their anti-cheat...go pwn online with your power drill bike
How about using a simple static yrainer with a speed sensor. Then, do not put the wheel resistance in plce so your wheelbis spinning freely. Voila. Also, use a wheel based power meter (i believe those exist but I'm not sure). Anyway, this is EASY. How come he hasn't thought of this? Or use an E-bike (haha). Or: connect a power drill to your crank. Weeee of you go. The best cheat: Just be gud at it and do it legit... (Well, actually no one wants to try that(
you say video games are different than "e-SPORTS".... yet..... why cant you hide an aim-bot inside the mouse.... or wireless receiver for said mouse?? ive thought for YEARS that this is how the pro "counter strike" players cheat...... hiding the hack inside their mouse or keyboard as some players raise a HUGE stink when they cant use their personal mouse and/or keyboard and when they have to use the provided peripherals.... all of a sudden, instead of 30 kills to 5 deaths they go 2 kills to 50 deaths..... hell..... most headsets are USB powered today..... VS the old school fully analog 3.5mm jack headsets/mics so you can have your hacks inside your FUCKING MICROPHONE!!!!!! who would have guessed.... in say.... 1999.... that video game hacks could be "installed" into a headset....
You can watch the processes running on the computer to see if there is any additional software. Can also look at a check sum for the game files to look for hidden dll mods etc. If you were to insert any additional code it would show up real quick. You would need a really advanced system with cameras to watch the screen, process the mouse movements you want to make for a kill, then transmit them to the mouse or keyboard and have them relay those movements to the computer.
Not being able to use your own peripherals is actually really big deal in esports. In video games, a lot of the skill comes from muscle memory. Having a mouse you aren't familiar with will definitely affect your performance. When I tried playing starcraft on my work keyboard, I was hitting wrong keys constantly. And I barely play that game. Imagine someone who actually practices 8+ hours a day on one keyboard being forced to play a competitive game on another.
Their pronunciation of France isn't half as bad as the one of Tour. They make it sound like onion routing, while the French say it with the oo as in boot. The French r has no equivalent sound in American English, afaik.
DEFCON 2011: "Steal Everything, Kill Everyone, Cause Total Financial Ruin!"
DEFCON 2019: "How to cheat at eSports"
everyone has a price
2019: everything has been stolen, the only people alive and the only functioning economy are in esports
Just watched a couple of these segments...thinking the same thing...that woman and the coffee pods.....get a life
@@hatespeach9835 At least the coffee pods had some useful antifraud stuff. This is... Just for the meme
@@hatespeach9835 I actually enjoyed that one. about the only one I did enjoy, would not be hard to scrape it and find the user and bulk purchase all for sale and relist.
I had no idea that such thing as eCycling even existed.
I only learnt about it when someone was caught cheating, now amazed to see a DEFCON show and tell about it!
there is even eFishing
@@gnutscha One needs more information on this... for... research... reasons...
@@local9 google Russian Fishing 4
0:53
Correction: cheating is the ONLY fun part about competitive cycling
There was a guy who didn't actually cheat. He did steal a bike but he didn't cheat in the tournament. So he had the same bikes as anybody else but didn't had to go trugh the stupid single player campaing to get it. So he legetimally won the tournament but because the bike was stolen he didn't get to win even tho he came first. And rules about stealing/hacking the bikes wasn't there when he applied. So he should have fun the tournament!
Haha kind of sad but also funny...
Just because the rules do not include crimes in them does not mean crimes are allowed by the rules.
When it rains in the game, do they throw a bucket of water to the face of the guy on the bicycle?
They'll send in Dmitri to simulate random breakdowns, and rumors have it that some of the funds go into rescue puppies to simulate random dogs walking across the path... And yes, they go in the same bucket as the water.
"esports that involve killing dont really vibe with the olypics"
The olympics, which was literally founded to showcase an individual's military strength
Olympics is full of sports that are about killing but its 2020 everything has to be PC
Most people have no clue where track and field's events actually started from: WAR.
So that one dude that wasn't cheating in those 7 years didn't win, either?
The 20 people who won and were then found to be doping is cool and all, but imagine how suspicious they must be of the one dude who still somehow beat them all at the height of their scam.
@@frankie5781 it was 21 people over 7 years, so that dude could have just been the third place constant in one year
You should know that using another rider's power output will be detectable through fourier transform. The same methods that assist in finding known signals in noise will cut through essentially any amount of noise and distortion you add on top of the other rider's profile.
While I do not disagree, it's also trivial to apply noise on the frequency domain
@@petermuller608 Lets look at that for a minute though. Lets say you take an entire album in flac and you apply noise to it in the time domain. You multiply that by the original flac and you will get a very obvious positive match even if the noise is an order of magnitude greater than the signal, which would already outside the physically possible bounds for this ebike data. If any point in you data says that you're producing 15kw, you are cheating.
So lets do what you suggested and take the same album, calculate the DCT of it. Then we're just going to apply some noise to the DCT and perform an inverse DCT to get our data with frequency domain noise added. How do we detect that? Well its exactly as simple as detecting a signal with time domain data. All we have to do is apply a DCT to the data we're looking for and compare it with the fake data, multiply them together and again, we get a very clear match. For the faker, however, adding frequency domain noise while keeping the time domain signal sane is much, much, much harder.
So while you're right, adding frequency domain noise is mathematically trivial, it is equally trivial to detect. There's no reasonable amount of uniform noise or distortion you can add to a large enough data set that will not be detectable, regardless of the domain. Note that I said "mathematically trivial" and not just "trivial". Adding frequency domain noise (or, realistically, noise and distortion across as many domains as you can) is just as trivial to detect as it is to fabricate but *not* as easy to forge and keep sane.
Tools do not exist to do this, or at least I haven't found them. In my work on adaptive constellation QAM, which involves doing all of this stuff I've just talked about, I've had to write everything myself (modifying the data, I still use FFTW3 for DCT/DFT). We're no longer in "trivial" territory.
Hopefully this makes sense.
"Winners never cheat. Cheaters never win. Hackers sometimes cheat for fun." Therefore a hacker is not a winner; but some other nebulous thing* that is also not a loser.
After all, if you're not having fun, what's the point?
* wacky zany nutty funster
I attached my speed sensor to the spoke of my car rim, and drove it cross state. Constantly hitting 70 km/hr lol.
Set your powerlevels to inconspicuous... Truer words were never said.
meanwhile at formula one
„alright, lets decide how much cheating we will allow for this season“
Virtual cycle UA-cam channels are POV camera montages of sweatybois in full cycling gear in their living rooms. It's actually kinda interesting from a purely clinical and technical perspective. But super weird.
A psychiatrist also has a clinical perspective on things.😄
I used to work at a bike shop, there were shelves upon shelves upon shelves of bike technology
Uh, what? Esports? Cycling? Did i go into the twilight zone where this is a thing?
Why not just say you did it and watch tv instead.
presumably for the Olympics they'd at least make all the eracers sit in the same room, right? I don't think slacker mode will fly there 😂
Are they not going to drug test the ebikers? you can cheat just like lance did with drugs even if you were pedling 'legit'
This is exactly what happened during the bike scene in the film Gattaca (1997)
I believe Gattaca had a running scene. "Jerome the Metronome" said Gore Vidal's character in the treadmill scene regarding Ethan Hawk's character's even heart rate.
But he did cheat.
@@souloftheage hi Michael Allen, I think you are probably right. It's been a while since I've watched the film
Some folks like water
Some folks like wine
Well I like the taste
Or straight strychnine
It feels like he spends more time trying to sell the commercial USB tool he built instead of actually telling us about the hack
Well he has to eat. 🤣
"long ruler"
Rocket League:
Its soccer
but with
jetpack go karts.
>shows Dota 2
>says league of legends
he explains eBike racing.
me: oh sweet. so you can actually have a fair biking competition independent of peoples height/weight etc.
him: the program actually accounts your height when calculating draft efficiency
......why??
How would not taking into account body mass be fair? Big boy = potential for big muscles
Simple, they should provide the bikes, a standard unhacked bike, then the competitors get to just compete on something they won't have access to.
Also appreciate the captions!
Do sports or don't.
Any kind of cheating makes a shitshow of sports - harder to compete for future generations, and a money scheme.
Exceed 20Watt for more than 20 seconds...... You are superhuman.
Robert forstemann has entered the game
I think you're missing some zeros. I'm probably close to 20 watts right now, just sitting here reading youtube comments.
Yeah no, the average non competitive cyclist can run at 200-300 watts for about an hour
jesus christ, those people in the 1800s on bicycles were psychos lmao, putting itching powder in their crotches and killing their muscles with stric9 and poisoning their water. imagine a girl bringing a cyclist home to her parents thinking i landed a nice gentleman who likes to bike. and hes out there almost killing everyone lmao
this dude lost an eCycling race like 2 weeks ago. this is him just saving face
Tyler Phillips Did you even watch the talk? Lmao
@@HolowatyVlogs ITS A JOKE
so... how many participants of the "Virtual Tour de France" have seen it :D
"we dont want to have sports that involve killing people...... even in fantisy video games
but lets see how far you can throw a javelin..... or how accurate your aim with a bow and arrow is....
which was used to kill people for 1000s of years....."
like.....Olympic javelin is LITERALLY scored on how far....AND!!! accurately you throw it...
you miss the "center line"..... and you get a few feet taken off, depending on how far off you are....
yet people doing the EXACT SAME THING..... just going for head shots with a mouse and keyboard....
"oh thats violent...."
like.... in real life..... if you get shot in the head with a 30-06 rifle
your dead before you even hear the gun shot....
you feel no pain..... its just living one microsecond.... to dead the next microsecond
G fucking G
but a javelin wound.... you are going to slowly bleed out....
probably for 5 to 20 minutes..... in EXTREME pain
all you can hope for is that you go into shock quickly....
and pass the fuck out
but massive blood loss, shock, and the DEATH SCREAMS as the persons lungs fill up with blood
and they slowly drown IN THEIR OWN FUCKING BLOOD!!!!
"oh ya, thats TOTALLY fine.....we will just say the jav was never used in war...... and was the equivalent of playing darts at the bar"
like.... are you fucking kidding me?
hell.... the Olympics have RIFLE SHOOTING!!! contests....
AKA how accurately a person can shoot a target (target = deer, rabbit, ETC...... or another human)
but because its a round target with concentric circles..... and a red dot in the center....
its TOTALLY different than trying to hit a humans heart or brain....
like.... you are LITERALLY SHOOTING A FUCKING RIFLE!!!!!!
seeing how accurately you can shoot the rifle....
which is military 101......
the more accurate your troops are..... the more your troops kill, and then less get killed
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
PS.... i live in montana, and voted for oboma.... and hopefully sanders next election
FUCK TRUMP
yet..... banning rifles like the AR-15 is just stupid as fuck....
i dont own an AR.......bullet is too weak to ethically hunt deer
and i dont do a lot of pelt/varmint hunting (aka coyotes and gophers)
so id rather have an AR-10..... which NO ONE talks about...
but instead of a 0.223 inch bullet....
the AR-10 fires a 0.308 bullet....
doesnt sound like a lot..... but when that extra 1/10th of an inch is going ~3000 feet a second..... its a MASSIVE difference
the AR-10 is 30 round, semi automatic.... and looks EXACTLY like an AR-15
and.... again.... shoots a bullet TWO TO THREE TIMES MORE POWERFUL!!!!
yet.... no one bitches about the AR-10.....
probably because most anti-gun people have never seen a gun.... let alone held one
and they DAMN sure havent had to protect their family/property/live stock
a coyote can eat 10,000 dollars in baby cows
a gopher can dig a hole that breaks a cows/horses leg.....
so ya.... i kinda need 30 rounds of semi-auto fire power....
coyotes wont let you get close..... and its HARD to hit a moving target at 300 yards...
and their are so many gophers.... that you can shoot 100 of them
and the very next day.... their is 150 more babys....
triggered much? xD
And fencing where 2 of the 3 where one of the weapons has a combat form another could kill some one if the safety features are removed which is easy and the last is practice for the other two
Guns don´t kill instantly like in movies. Haven't you ever been hunting and had to track a deer? It has been shown that even after decapitation the brain is still alive for a few seconds.
this is some great copypasta
2:50... VR????? Beat Saber???? lol, fuck wii bowling, that was just cute.
I wish that the cheating done in pro-sports that was allowed in general public
offline cheating: doctored xml file + strava. online cheating: hacked ANT+ or BT power meter and HRM
Great talk!
3:19 Objection: road cycling (and the more closely related disciplines) have the best cheaters. There's no need to slander cycling in general.
>shows Dota 2
>says League of Losers
Doesn't care
If you can tell those pre-teen, e-begging, chinese farming simulators apart then you're not worthy of DEF CON.
@@seenfranklin5609 Got to waste your time in a salt mine after a long day in a room with solder and plastic fumes.
@@seenfranklin5609 'if you have a hobby then don't watch this specific set of UA-cam videos'
No racing sim games?
Sim racing is virtual cycling's grandfather, and motorsports in general lives on people stretching the rules and flat-out cheating.
@@uncajesse Exactly. Stock car racing is exactly that. Everyone gets pretty much the same car and you do whatever you can to make yours faster.
Bookmark: USB monitoring, tinkering.
Wait, @8:00 is not jeff goldblum?
Nicky yes it is. It even says to in the bottom text of the screen
@@iW4FFL3Z thank you for pointing that out haha i missed it
@@phineusmcclintock1 no problem. I had to pause the video too because i was so confused :D
even cyclists hate cycling. they need to play video game cycling to even bother now.
Everyone's always picking on "The Mikes"
Jesus H. Christ, why don't people just go outside and ride a damn bike.
Do you tell people who use the telephone to go meet their conversation partner in person instead?
Cause it's harder to cheat, duh
@@Catcrumbs No, but I ignore texts and tell people they can try harder if they really want to talk to me. And I don't waste my time and electricity and help destroy the planet with carbon emissions when I already own a bicycle that not only gives me good exercise but actually has wheels and works as a bicycle.
You already established that this is a wireless interface with no encryption, so why bother trying to insert something into the wired endpoints at a live event? You don't need COTTONMOUTH-1, just MitM the wireless link itself.
Thats just for the heart-rate monitor, doubt you can win the race by having a impressive heart-rate alone :P
this is pretty cool
ahh yes, the olympics definition of "esports"
If the bikes have bluetooth you could hack the bikes firmware wirelessly to give lower resistance the steeper the map gets but display the proper data..
Does E-Archery exist yet?
Closest thing I could think of would be WiiSports Resort Archery.
@@nicholaslau8642 totally forgot about that, yeah that was good... Now I wonder what the archery world could do for peripheral device.
when e sports hits the olympics, the olympics are finished.
Such french innovation :D
The thing about virtual cycling esports is that actual cycling outside exists AND they do actual racing from point a to point b. Its an interesting topic but it's about a thing that doesn't need to exist
why not if you go to a gym and you want to do a little warm up why not turn on a short race win it be happy you beat other people and go do your workout.
Imagine simulated rain during the competition
@@huhulili9021 hehehe
I Imagine it's a lot of people that wanted to cycle the world but coudn't get the money to.
Why it doesn't need to exist? It is one way to avoid the inconvenience for other people on the road. To make a real race, roads that are used for moving around must be closed down. This avoids that aspect of the "hosting" the event. You are not so time constraint on when you can have the event. I remember my coworker saying that they went home from one event and didn't know there was some cycling event. The roads were closed for the event and they had to take 60 km detour because the main bridge over one river was closed and next one was quite some distance away. Virtual event would not cause the roads to be closed down and like someone commented, you will not have weather affect the results. It is one way to avoid accidents and even medical staff can be on the live competitions at the site instead of having to go and look for cyclist who has had accident if it should happen (I do not know how often it could be, but I am sure some medical teams are on standby around the track), on e-cycling live events you can have less since there is no distance to cover.
Of course for training most likely the cyclists actually go out on real streets and train there and maybe also the virtual one at evenings when it might be dark and more dangerous to cycle on streets/roads. It is not the same as on real streets, they try to emulate it, but emulation sometimes can go wrong for sure, so you as a cyclist should know the real road and virtual cycling differences.
killing not the vibe of the olympics... Bruh, have you seen the original?
Wow. OG.ana made it to defcon 🤙🏻
When the Tour was started they were riding up and down those mountains for 21 days ... on fixies.
That is mind blowing.
Wow! I didn't know that cheating takes part in competitive cycling
Oof - no CSGO for esports in the olympics? Sounds kinda fraudulent
CSGO's gameplay isn't really Olympic family friendly content
Csgo is for virgins
Warcraft 3 ftw
how is this even a fking thing.
Literally none of the tech/methods he discussed is actual hacking. Clickbait title.
Where does it say hack, hacks, or hacking in the title?
@@allooutrick8266 He thought this was gonna be another "30 Life hacks that totally blow your mind" video and was disappointed.
You know hacking is just altering something to make it fit a different purpose, right?
@@elcidbob No, in the computer world hacking is forcing your way into a computer system you shouldn't have access to.
@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny lol, sure thing guy.
Very nice
Ah... so real sports
USB - not universal, not serial and not a bus.
it's pretty universal for decades now, and it's serial in contrast to parallel, basically an upgrade to RS232 or what it's called, and it is usually muxed, like a bus.
it allows devices with different functionalities, input, output, storage=universal
it uses a single data line = serial
you can have usb hubs attached to a single port = route traffic for several devices on a single line = a bus
edope.bike fucking classic bravo sir
Cheating is the American way.
Are you one of the kids reached by mr Cartmenez?
@@charstringetje si. he teeeched me good
@DEFCON Conference You mentioned facedancer. Check out a new board called the GreatFET One that does the same thing and more, faster. It basically can emulate any type of USB peripheral plus has a bunch of different protocols, 100 gpio pins, and soon they are going to be offering add on boards that do some really cool stuff called neighbors
21:35
@@DuckClues yeah I commented when he was talking about facedancer. Once I did he mentioned GreatFET. I didn't feel like deleting the comment
eSports in 2k19...
Esports or esport it is a collective noun and not a product
no one uses eMail or e-mail unless they stuck in 2000's
Yeah the title doesn't have the correct capitalization
So what do you call an email address?
Why not just turn the pedal shaft with an electric motor(hell use an old power drill) just put it on a trigger and figure out the wattage that wont trigger their anti-cheat...go pwn online with your power drill bike
That wont look good in the live races ;)
How about using a simple static yrainer with a speed sensor. Then, do not put the wheel resistance in plce so your wheelbis spinning freely. Voila. Also, use a wheel based power meter (i believe those exist but I'm not sure). Anyway, this is EASY. How come he hasn't thought of this? Or use an E-bike (haha). Or: connect a power drill to your crank. Weeee of you go. The best cheat: Just be gud at it and do it legit... (Well, actually no one wants to try that(
Strangely cycling has the most cheating of any sport
you say video games are different than "e-SPORTS"....
yet..... why cant you hide an aim-bot inside the mouse.... or wireless receiver for said mouse??
ive thought for YEARS that this is how the pro "counter strike" players cheat...... hiding the hack inside their mouse or keyboard
as some players raise a HUGE stink when they cant use their personal mouse and/or keyboard
and when they have to use the provided peripherals.... all of a sudden, instead of 30 kills to 5 deaths
they go 2 kills to 50 deaths.....
hell..... most headsets are USB powered today..... VS the old school fully analog 3.5mm jack headsets/mics
so you can have your hacks inside your FUCKING MICROPHONE!!!!!!
who would have guessed.... in say.... 1999.... that video game hacks could be "installed" into a headset....
comment so I get responses
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You can watch the processes running on the computer to see if there is any additional software. Can also look at a check sum for the game files to look for hidden dll mods etc. If you were to insert any additional code it would show up real quick.
You would need a really advanced system with cameras to watch the screen, process the mouse movements you want to make for a kill, then transmit them to the mouse or keyboard and have them relay those movements to the computer.
Not being able to use your own peripherals is actually really big deal in esports. In video games, a lot of the skill comes from muscle memory. Having a mouse you aren't familiar with will definitely affect your performance. When I tried playing starcraft on my work keyboard, I was hitting wrong keys constantly. And I barely play that game. Imagine someone who actually practices 8+ hours a day on one keyboard being forced to play a competitive game on another.
@@harrodharrod5239 right....
I ment to say "when they are provided a mouse that is the exact same as theirs"
This is what riding 700w looks like: ua-cam.com/video/S4O5voOCqAQ/v-deo.html
HAX
really?
Fuuuuuuuuck Ooooooooff
After you.
Anyone else try game rock it work
Cyclist continue to be some of the most despiteful people xD
fuck eSports, rigged af
bruh
I can't believe that I at last found a web app that is real. Received so many free gems and gold from Gamecrook.
Gamecrook seems to be the perhaps only working web app for free gems and coins.
Great presentation, but please learn to say "France" without such a horrible American accent ;)
It's pronounced as farts right?
@@electronJarvs Yep, it sounds like "farts".
@@electronJarvs can confirm.
"Fronch Fries"
Their pronunciation of France isn't half as bad as the one of Tour. They make it sound like onion routing, while the French say it with the oo as in boot. The French r has no equivalent sound in American English, afaik.
I want to save everyone's time and tell you that a majority of the sites in the comments are fake. Only Gamecrook works.
why?