The inside the circle worst lie argument is such classic foundation 😂 im on hunter and Trevor's side, they should be putting from thw furthest/worst lie. Kon Man's game is looking so much improved compared to just a few months ago!
Yes, because the rule was "throw two, take worst." They already threw two each, so you can't stop the second part of that just because they went into the circle.
@@matthewbertram4312 also if you did it the other way, it would essentially give them 4 shots to put it next to the pin and take the best shot, which makes no sense lol
@@feelthepayne88 I think their argument was that since all four discs were in the circle, they were guaranteed to be in C1. I still agree with Hunter and Trev though, that the handicap doesn't end until your throwing your shot from the circle.
The thing I was confused about was the rule says to "throw two and take the worst", but I don't see why they would take the worst throw of all 4. Normal doubles rules would be both people throw and you take the best one, the rule modifies it so that each of them individually throws twice and takes the worst of the two of their own shots, but then between those two results, they should be able to take the best of them still.
The worst lie argument from Kon has my brain broken. I don’t even really understand how Kon could come to the conclusion of worst throw and best lie in the same argument🤣
@@benistoneman9737how anyone is understanding this is baffling. The shot before is worst lie, they throw 4, so they now take the worst of the four, from then on, because they are in the circle, they only have to each throw one and they can take the best.
@@user-ek3ks2xb3y correct but by the rules at the beginning and during the mulligan rule a few hole later they said in the circle negates “ALL” handicaps including the one you spoke of. So if one disc was outside the circle the handicap would applied but since all four were in the circle it cancels the handicap as stated multiple times in the video. It is really not that hard to understand, but they want to change the rules to win easy. And poor konner is too weak to speak up for himself.
@@benistoneman9737it negates the punishment for the next shot. They don't get a mulligan anymore cause they can't use it on their putt, if they wanted to keep their mulligan for their putt they would have to land just outside the circle and then have 1 mulligan for their putt. That being said it wouldn't negate having to take the worst lie inside the circle since it negates the punishment for the next shot.
When getting to the circle you still obviously have the worst shot handicap Because the worst one inside the circle is your worst shot before you got into the circle
That may be how it "should have been played", but the way they played it is better. If I was playing I'd play it like that too, more fun. Big wheel=big punishment.
That’s so funny I ALMOST bought one of those as a prize for the 2024 TDG Open tournament last Sunday! Ended up settling on Ript Revenge instead (as well as an MVP black hole micro basket, disc golf beanie, and $40 for CTP prize)
Robbie was playing imposter. Those early releases were BOTHERING him. You could tell. 🤣 also that argument was confusing on Kon and Robbie’s part. Hunter and Trevor were right. Hahaha
Instead of saying "whole hole", you can say "entire whole". Love your videos and this is the first thing I've felt compelled to comment. Carry on, boys.
VIDEO IDEA: Konner and Silas play normal best shot dubs for all 18 holes. Hunter and Trevor play first 6 holes worst shot(both MUST make putt), next 6 holes best score(individual), and final 6 holes normal best shot.
@@davidspalding1195 1. They have driven past it to play the worst course in the US. 2. It a really good course for the average player. 3. No ones asking you to come play.
Here is your rule: Each team spins the Crazy Caddy once per hole. Each player on a team must throw their tee shots as described by the Crazy Caddy and establish their lie as described by the Crazy Caddy. If the lie established from the tee shot is NOT inside the circle, all subsequent throws must also be thrown as described by the Crazy Caddy, until a lie is established as described by the Crazy Caddy inside the circle. Once a lie is established inside the circle, the team may play out the hole with normal best-shot team rules (therefore, if the Crazy Caddy describes the lie as "worst shot", the team must take the worst shot inside the circle, because their lie has not been established until all the team's throws are complete and the team has taken their worst shot).
Yea the handicap argument could have easily been settled saying "the handicap applies to each throw until after the new lie has been established, once the new lie is established then the handicap starts over for that throw, if the disc lands in the circle it's still part of the original handicapped throw and the throw is not completed as the new lie has not been determined, however the following putt would not have handicap as the handicap throw was settled, new lie established and you're new lie is inside the circle"
To be clear on rules, if you are going to say in the circle handicap is no longer in play, you should be able to choose what shot you prefer as a team. If not then putt left handed. Cant have your cake and eat it too. Rules are rules. I get fan boys will rule it certain way. But in the rules of really any game, rules should be laid in a stack which technically would rule in team Robbie's favor.
Really awesome content, I love all the FDC team and RobbieC. Konnor and Robbie are 100% correct, based on the specific wording of the game, that was presented at the beginning of the video. I think when the game was imagined, the word phrasing was not quite perfect. Great video, and great game idea!!!
If you pick throw 2/take worse within best shot doubles, I would argue you should be allowed to take your second worst shot and not your worst worst ✌🏼
why tf does robbie look at the camera when he throws. makes no sense. throws go everywhere but where they’re supposed to bc of it. lessens quality of video get it together
I know Kon was tripping but I honestly think they played worst shit wrong for doubles. I'd say each individual takes the worse but then they choose best of those. Basically the handicap happens and then you do normal doubles rules like all the others.
First off we need more of KonRobbie, but that rules argument was absurd the handicap was in play on the throw not the lie so they should’ve played the worst shot in the circle because if one shot had been outside they would’ve had to use that shot so just because they all are inside doesn’t mean they get to now use the best shot
I thought that when you chose to have a mulligan, your first shot was null and void and you had to go with the second shot. Taking a mulligan and getting to choose the first shot is too easy.
The inside the circle worst lie argument is such classic foundation 😂 im on hunter and Trevor's side, they should be putting from thw furthest/worst lie. Kon Man's game is looking so much improved compared to just a few months ago!
Yes, because the rule was "throw two, take worst." They already threw two each, so you can't stop the second part of that just because they went into the circle.
@@matthewbertram4312 also if you did it the other way, it would essentially give them 4 shots to put it next to the pin and take the best shot, which makes no sense lol
But they did it wrong anyway, it shouldn't have been each player throws two and gets the worst, and then you take the best of those two worst shots.
@@feelthepayne88 I think their argument was that since all four discs were in the circle, they were guaranteed to be in C1. I still agree with Hunter and Trev though, that the handicap doesn't end until your throwing your shot from the circle.
Worst shot doesn't always mean farther. Worst shot could be 5 ft from the basket behind a 3ft wide tree while the other shot is 15ft wide open
Hunter and Trevor are completely right on the hole 2 argument 😂
yep, they have to be right, otherwise as long as you landed in the circle, you could just ignore the handicap
The thing I was confused about was the rule says to "throw two and take the worst", but I don't see why they would take the worst throw of all 4. Normal doubles rules would be both people throw and you take the best one, the rule modifies it so that each of them individually throws twice and takes the worst of the two of their own shots, but then between those two results, they should be able to take the best of them still.
Anyone else see how much better Konner has gotten over him joining up? Bro had dialed for a while now. Big shoutout to Konman he’s the goat 🐐
Vaya Kon Dios!
I think Robbie was the imposter this time. Happens to the best of us.
The argument on hole 2 was absurd. Of course you play from the worst lie inside the circle.
Yeah I thought that was pretty obvious too but it also kinda felt like Konner and Robbie were kind of just antagonizing a little bit
Especially since Konnor talked about using a mulligan on a putt a couple of holes later.
Am I gonna get toasted for being on the other side of this one?
@@wesleyverity7310 I think you will..
The worst lie argument from Kon has my brain broken.
I don’t even really understand how Kon could come to the conclusion of worst throw and best lie in the same argument🤣
Because they said in the beginning that the handicaps ends in the circle so if all discs are in the circle it cancels the handicap per their rules
@@benistoneman9737how anyone is understanding this is baffling. The shot before is worst lie, they throw 4, so they now take the worst of the four, from then on, because they are in the circle, they only have to each throw one and they can take the best.
@@user-ek3ks2xb3y correct but by the rules at the beginning and during the mulligan rule a few hole later they said in the circle negates “ALL” handicaps including the one you spoke of. So if one disc was outside the circle the handicap would applied but since all four were in the circle it cancels the handicap as stated multiple times in the video. It is really not that hard to understand, but they want to change the rules to win easy. And poor konner is too weak to speak up for himself.
@@user-ek3ks2xb3y 1:18. “Applies to “every shot” until inside circle one. “
@@benistoneman9737it negates the punishment for the next shot. They don't get a mulligan anymore cause they can't use it on their putt, if they wanted to keep their mulligan for their putt they would have to land just outside the circle and then have 1 mulligan for their putt. That being said it wouldn't negate having to take the worst lie inside the circle since it negates the punishment for the next shot.
If you take a mulligan, you cant pick the throw the mulligan is "replacing".
Konner and Robby absolute brain rot argument... Hopefully they were trolling lmao
the rules argument at 12:00 had me cracking up
Yo on the real Kon has gotten so much better in the last couple of months honestly probably just as good as the bros now 💯💯💯
When getting to the circle you still obviously have the worst shot handicap
Because the worst one inside the circle is your worst shot before you got into the circle
Ok I’m convinced
Loved watching you guys play with Simon Lizotte. Hope you guys had safe travels and a great trip!
You guys have become my favorite disc golf channel!
the smart move to lose the hole before the tough par5 was KEY !!! thanks
I weirdly could not root for the beard boys on this one. They were kind of annoying today.
This course looks amazing. I need to visit this place
Played it last month for the first time. It's brutal but a very, very good course.
This is the first disc golf “game” I’m actually considering picking up, seems like a lot of fun
Kon man has gotten much better! Way to go man!
Konnor was kind of shredding in this video!
What a misplay on hole 2… Kon takes his worst, Robby takes his worst, then take the best of those two since it’s best shot doubles!
You aren’t smart
Yes! I agree. It should not have been worst of the 4 throws.
@@Irgevwvrheioakwhtalking about yourself?
That may be how it "should have been played", but the way they played it is better. If I was playing I'd play it like that too, more fun. Big wheel=big punishment.
Konner has been REALLY getting his game together this year! Lets friggin go Kon Man!
Thanks for all the content lately boys!
Apparently all Konnor needed to be an awesome putter was a little practice😂 Ever since that 1000 putt live stream my mans been nasty
It's mind blowing that Robbie has instructional videos on how to throw discs 🤦♂️🤦♂️
My thoughts exactly
His early releases in this video were absurd honestly
Kon is goated. Had me cracking up the whole video
I loveeee Robbie's channel 🤘
“This hole will suck your discs… oh it’s suckin… *slurp slurp slurp*”
-an actual quote from this video:)
Robbie unlocked new challenge on the spinner, Don’t look where you throw.
That’s so funny I ALMOST bought one of those as a prize for the 2024 TDG Open tournament last Sunday! Ended up settling on Ript Revenge instead (as well as an MVP black hole micro basket, disc golf beanie, and $40 for CTP prize)
This video had a certain . . . tension
It was Robbie.
@@dgdagwoodkills the vibe
Tis what happens when hunter and Trevor are losing. Tension rises
@@WannabeSemiGood idk it was off rip
Robbie C out here playing Imposter instead of the real game 😂😂
Trevor just called the disc a frisbee 😂 8:37
I had no idea Konner had that goat impression down so well, well done
Robbie was playing imposter. Those early releases were BOTHERING him. You could tell. 🤣 also that argument was confusing on Kon and Robbie’s part. Hunter and Trevor were right. Hahaha
Why did the dude stare into our souls at 3:32 lmao
This is peak Konner & Robbie
Lefty’s was a killer great video and Robbie loves to smack talk found that out at the Hyzer Club Championship last year😂
the number of times that the Kon and Robbie got the "your choice" option is crazy
Hole 2 Robbie’s discs had 0 chance of turning😂
38:30 Konner said “this hill will suck your disc” and I got worried for a moment
I think Konnor is getting better. His shots are way more smooth than I remember.
That 1k putt punishment may have been the best thing to ever happen to the boys their putts are all dialed.
That lefty side arm roller on 18 was brilliantly hilarious
Someone please make sure Kon reads the comments here about hole 2, that was silly.
Instead of saying "whole hole", you can say "entire whole". Love your videos and this is the first thing I've felt compelled to comment.
Carry on, boys.
best part of the video: bird ASMR 34:48
Robby “Can’t throw a hyzer flip at New London” C is back at it again. I don’t understand what that course does to him.
A mulligan is a do-over, not a best shot. Connor disqualified, sorry.
I’m going to play New London long for the first time this weekend, any advice?
Keep it in the fairway and don’t get greedy
Did foundation have a groupon for the tanning salon or did someone crank up the warm filter a bit too much? Lol 😂
This round was filmed in Mexico.
😂@@pjkf01
"I'm not him." lol
VIDEO IDEA: Konner and Silas play normal best shot dubs for all 18 holes. Hunter and Trevor play first 6 holes worst shot(both MUST make putt), next 6 holes best score(individual), and final 6 holes normal best shot.
Crazy how fast it went from bogey bro rule, to nope you picked backhand. Can’t pick mulligan! Haha.
So…. a mulligan you need to take the shot you’re replacing?
And hole 2 argument was so silly. lol
Yay Robbie
I think when you guys start a video, everyone in the background should be standing as if they are on a punk rock album cover.
FYI, when taking a mulligan, it replaces the shot the mulligan was taken for. You don't get to pick the best of the 2.
Vid 18 of asking yall to come down to NC to play Zebulon Park for either a battle or just to play.
That course ain’t that good
@@davidspalding1195 1. They have driven past it to play the worst course in the US.
2. It a really good course for the average player.
3. No ones asking you to come play.
I want a shirt that says “245 feet- COME AT ME” 😂
Just want to stop and commend Conners putt and how much it has improved. Looks like his confidence is up too
Don't fight now! Hahahaha H and T are right tho! 🎉😅
This might be my first comment ever on this channel. Im with Bogey Bros 100% on hole 2 putting....lol.
Why did it feel like Robbie was staring into my soul on 1's tee?
Hunter I did it!!!!
Robbie is the sorest winner this channel has ever seen, yikes.
What is the patent pending one???
Connor’s argument on hole 2 is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
I may not have laughed so much during any episode before.
Here is your rule: Each team spins the Crazy Caddy once per hole. Each player on a team must throw their tee shots as described by the Crazy Caddy and establish their lie as described by the Crazy Caddy. If the lie established from the tee shot is NOT inside the circle, all subsequent throws must also be thrown as described by the Crazy Caddy, until a lie is established as described by the Crazy Caddy inside the circle. Once a lie is established inside the circle, the team may play out the hole with normal best-shot team rules (therefore, if the Crazy Caddy describes the lie as "worst shot", the team must take the worst shot inside the circle, because their lie has not been established until all the team's throws are complete and the team has taken their worst shot).
Where do I get hunters hat
Right here: foundationdiscs.com/products/foundation-college-hat?_pos=1&_psq=college&_ss=e&_v=1.0
On the roller hole I would have thrown some forehand rollers?
Yea the handicap argument could have easily been settled saying "the handicap applies to each throw until after the new lie has been established, once the new lie is established then the handicap starts over for that throw, if the disc lands in the circle it's still part of the original handicapped throw and the throw is not completed as the new lie has not been determined, however the following putt would not have handicap as the handicap throw was settled, new lie established and you're new lie is inside the circle"
what bout a video where u spin an arrow, where it lands u have to throw a line at
You should also make a " most wins fun" shirt
Right here! foundationdiscs.com/products/most-fun-wins-garment-dyed-heavyweight-t-shirt?_pos=1&_sid=71e954593&_ss=r
Why did I find joy in watching Trevor and Hunter get repeated bad spins?
They should be putting forehand if that’s what they land on though
how come he never gives the foundation nation enough time to answer what is good?
Underrated comment.
I wish this video was sponsored by Hostess Ho Ho's snack cakes!
To be clear on rules, if you are going to say in the circle handicap is no longer in play, you should be able to choose what shot you prefer as a team. If not then putt left handed. Cant have your cake and eat it too. Rules are rules. I get fan boys will rule it certain way. But in the rules of really any game, rules should be laid in a stack which technically would rule in team Robbie's favor.
Really awesome content, I love all the FDC team and RobbieC. Konnor and Robbie are 100% correct, based on the specific wording of the game, that was presented at the beginning of the video. I think when the game was imagined, the word phrasing was not quite perfect. Great video, and great game idea!!!
Mulligan should apply to every throw outside the circle. Not just off the tee. Just like every other option.
Were they technically the first ones to beat the bogie Bros???
If you pick throw 2/take worse within best shot doubles, I would argue you should be allowed to take your second worst shot and not your worst worst ✌🏼
Robbie c and konner are drunk lol. GG yall
On the worst shot hole it 100% should be the worst lie inside the circle
Why did you do worst of 4 shots on hole 2? It should have been the better of the worst shot from each guy.
Probably a foot fault by konnor at 34:25
Robbie can’t hit a fairway to save his life unless it’s a 100ft forehand.
Another episode of can robbie throw anything other than hyzer off the tee
Handicap is over after coming to rest in circle
why tf does robbie look at the camera when he throws. makes no sense. throws go everywhere but where they’re supposed to bc of it. lessens quality of video get it together
The bald guy sure likes to play out of the woods.
Konnor legit played really well though
missed opportunity for RoboCon
who poo'd in whos cheerios? tense
I know Kon was tripping but I honestly think they played worst shit wrong for doubles. I'd say each individual takes the worse but then they choose best of those. Basically the handicap happens and then you do normal doubles rules like all the others.
Did Robby forget you guys were not playing imposter? Dud was just NOT into it today lol
First off we need more of KonRobbie, but that rules argument was absurd the handicap was in play on the throw not the lie so they should’ve played the worst shot in the circle because if one shot had been outside they would’ve had to use that shot so just because they all are inside doesn’t mean they get to now use the best shot
Connor. Goated 🐐 ♑️ 🐑 🐐
I thought that when you chose to have a mulligan, your first shot was null and void and you had to go with the second shot. Taking a mulligan and getting to choose the first shot is too easy.