Time for... NOTES THAT **PRO** PROJECT SEKAI PLAYERS LOVE !!! Watch here :) ua-cam.com/video/t2pPIx3W1tA/v-deo.htmlsi=sra7_uSzitK9d1cu Watch part 1 here if you haven’t !!! ua-cam.com/video/ZTrscL9ZjlU/v-deo.htmlsi=c92r162YV5IUkNhM Now that I did a part 2, what notes do you agree or disagree with?
fun fact about flick notes: it doesn't matter which direction you flick in, as long as the game registers a swipe, you're in the clear. This means you can just flick upwards and it'll still work. Heck, you can even flick downwards if you're feeling adventurous.
Ah! Nevemind, I see now. for notes that point up you can also swipe down and it'll count as perfect. But notes that face left or right will count as great: you were right!
i actually think intense voice of hatsune miku (and other really spammy songs) are fun BUT THE UNREADABLE SPAM NOTES THAT I NEED TO USE MENTAL GYMNASTICS TO SEE THE PATTERN IN 😭😭
2:57 at firstI thought “Oh shit it’s still going” was supposed to be a joke about how many notes we hate, but then I realized, oh shit, IT’S STILL GOING
Heres a tip for the people who struggle with the “oh shoot its still going” for those who dont know! When u think its done do a little tap and if it works its still going and if its not the song is done C:
Me, a thumb player, getting Cup Noodle on full combo on first try and quickly healing the pain in my thumbs: uhhh... I'd call this the Utapri experience? (Utapri is a rythm game similar to Ensemble Stars, but with short songs that last only for about 2 minutes and better gacha pull rates [and it has better note reactions than Project Sekai, really])
3:09 Pro Player move: when playing these types of songs, press down and if the bar lights up, the song isn't over yet. It doesn't react to the touch once you've cleared the show! (IM AKITO SHINONOME TRUST)
For “Oh shit it’s still going” I usually do a small tap at the end of a song when I think it’s still going and when the song pauses, even if I know it’s still going.
as a person who has been playing for about a year, and might as well be addicted, two notes close together is the worst thing for master mode full combos, that and one large note.
The notes i hate the most are def the worm ones and that one golden flick that you accidentallly press instead of flicking it because you mistook it by the normal one
I actually kinda like the spiky sliders because they help me get more into the rhythm, and the short sliders are kinda easy to clear (unless it’s a fast song) but I HATE the skinny sliders that curve a lot (reborn on master is hell.)
Who when charting The Intense Voice of Hatsune Miku thought it was a good idea to have two consecutive notes in front of each other multiple times when Miku becomes Eminem?
oh my fucking god i cannot EXPRESS how much i HATE THOSE TINY NOTES WITH ALL MY BEINGGG 😃 nostalogic on master is my least favorite chart ever just because of those ant sized notes. Like i literally hate those more than any flick note ever.
poor thumb players. dont worry! i have some recommendations for yall! yaminabe - master whats up? pop! - master intense voice of hatsune miku - expert or master end of hatsune miku - master rin-chan now! - master
the worst is two flick notes AT THE SAME TIME, CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, and GOING IN CLASHING DIRECTIONS such that your fingers will bang together that's the worst one for me
My worst nightmare are TONS of little notes covering the whole board! Project sekai sometimes forgets that we all only have two pairs of hands, the game must have been built by a group of octopuses!
intense voice of hatsune miku except i have fat fingers and my speed is at 11.3 speed so i just spam press the middle part and it somehow ends up working
a bit of advice: when u think a song ended, tap a random note, if it still clicks, it's still going. if it doesn't react, then it's over. idk if i explained it well...
the worst thing about intense voice of miku is when i make one little mistake (eg get good not great) suddenly i can tplay at all and i fail the majority of the notes
a tip for the lots of flicks in different directuons, you don’t have to flick flicks in the direction theyre facing - you can flick them all up, left, right , even down, just as long as you flick them
I have and entire list of ones I beef with 1. When it goes 2 connected notes, and the a single whole note right after that, and then repeats the 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1 over and over again. 2. When one of the connected notes in a flick note and the other isn’t 3. When both are flick notes but they go in different directions 4. When the beginning of the song is 1000x harder than the chorus 5. When the majority of the notes in a spam song are in the middle, but theres a bunch of notes on the farthest lane on either side (r.i.p thumb players) 6. When there’s a note immediately after a flick note in the same lane (takes too long to get my finger back down) 7. When a huge slider suddenly becomes ant sized in the farthest lane before you can process the fact that it’s shrinking 8. The ant sized sliders in general, they’re so unforgiving when you even slightly move off of them 9. The entirety of What’s up? Pop! 10. (The golden note hate but remixed) when the sliders that have a crap ton of beats inside them are golden (like the last slider of don’t fight the music expert) 11. When the 5 billion spam notes are all in a row (like master mode of underwater) 12. When the hard part of the song is so far into the song that it takes you forever to restart and get back to it if you mess up (bonus anger points if the rest of the chart before that part is boring) 13. Literally any song with Miku’s name in it. (End of Hatsune Miku, intense voice of Hatsune Miku, Hatsune creation myth) 14. Songs that give you a false sense of security by being super easy on hard mode and then throw the hardest chart imaginable on expert (don’t fight the music, end of Hatsune Miku, and intense voice of Hatsune Miku specifically)
3:21 I honestly love intense voice because it’s not the note spamming that I have a problem with. It’s the fact that my brain gets so hyped up that I mess up before the note spamming but also also I only play on Hard because I’m not ready for Expert yet so
I especially hate the sliders that go from one side to another when they have NOTES NEXT TO THEM! LIKE BRUH- I CANT SLIDE MY FINGER ACROSS AND ALSO PRESS THE NOTE THAT MY HAND IS BLOCKING WITH MY OTHER FINGER👺
I actually quite like short holds - the trick there is to just treat it as any regular note spam and ignore the hold parts, because those WILL get registered just due to the length your finger is on the screen naturally!
I know you mentioned short holds, but I have a personal distain for diagonal quick slides, they have killed so many full combo runs and I LOATHEEEE them
I've gotten into the habit of tapping a few times after the song ends to make sure it's actually over. If it registers me tapping, there's more left. If it doesn't, I'm good. Also, I submit for your approval: A regular note followed immediately by a flick. Specifically ones where you have to use the same finger for it. For example: ^ - -
I also submit for your approval: I‾ I_ ‾I _I AKA hold note with one finger, notes with at beginning and end of the hold on the other finger, alternating sides multiple times.
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NOTES THAT **PRO** PROJECT SEKAI PLAYERS LOVE !!!
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Now that I did a part 2, what notes do you agree or disagree with?
intense voice expert us very easy to fc master is just NO
@@starpeep5769for you, but for master can totally agree. Expert depends on skill tbh
Oop
Spam notes like:
Machine gun poem doll
What's up pop
Don't fight the music
Hatsune miku creation myth
@@rinikurchie584 every player hates the ultimate popular song….
THE INTENSE VOICE OF HATSUNE MIKU
As a thumb player, I do admit that our lives are harder.
Yes
🫡
AGREED. ☹️💔
🫡
I, too, am a thumb player and it so difficult sometimes fr
“oh shit it’s still going” has thought me to never let my guard down
aah, the day i thought i fc don't fight the music!!
I personally think flick notes that come out of nowhere are the worst. Idk how to describe it, maybe I’m just bad.
Fr I hate when I do two parallel long slide notes and it comes out of nowhere with a flick note on the end of one BUT NKT THE OTHER ONE
THE AMOUNT OF COMBOS IVE LOST TO RANDOM FLICKS
Idk flicks are honestly my favourite notes
same here, mostly in that one faster part on hard mode in “the intense voice of miku”, its so annoying-
fun fact about flick notes: it doesn't matter which direction you flick in, as long as the game registers a swipe, you're in the clear. This means you can just flick upwards and it'll still work. Heck, you can even flick downwards if you're feeling adventurous.
downwards 😭😭
@@mb.ying_ you can try it yourself if you don't believe me! swipe in any direction, it works :)
it does matter if you're trying for an all perfect, it'll count as a Flick Great if you go the wrong direction
@@CherryMK_6 that's not true; I just tested it.
your timing may be off?
Ah! Nevemind, I see now.
for notes that point up you can also swipe down and it'll count as perfect. But notes that face left or right will count as great: you were right!
i actually think intense voice of hatsune miku (and other really spammy songs) are fun BUT THE UNREADABLE SPAM NOTES THAT I NEED TO USE MENTAL GYMNASTICS TO SEE THE PATTERN IN 😭😭
I uhhh… kind of fullcomboed That on expert…?
HOW. JUST HOW. @@TxtAlain1
I have personnal beef with the two notes disguised as one
Frfr I be playing some song for a while and there's one note that's literally won the oscar for making me miss
2:57 at firstI thought “Oh shit it’s still going” was supposed to be a joke about how many notes we hate, but then I realized, oh shit, IT’S STILL GOING
LMAO
Real😭😭Also that specific pattern is so annoying as well
Heres a tip for the people who struggle with the “oh shoot its still going” for those who dont know! When u think its done do a little tap and if it works its still going and if its not the song is done C:
“The entirety of the intense voice of hatsune miku” LMAO
fr bro 😭😭😭 that shits trauma inducing
that kinda stuff gives you ptsd man
Im a new player and i had a heart attack seeing someone play it 😭
real
one note missed in the intense voice of hatsune miku makes your entire rhythm crumble
THE SHORT HOLDS ON CUP NOODLE ARE ACTUALLY INSANE AS A THUMB PLAYER THAT GETS SORE FINGERS☹️☹️☹️☹️
It’s easy with the index fingers, but I can’t imagine with thumbs…😱
Me, a thumb player, getting Cup Noodle on full combo on first try and quickly healing the pain in my thumbs: uhhh... I'd call this the Utapri experience?
(Utapri is a rythm game similar to Ensemble Stars, but with short songs that last only for about 2 minutes and better gacha pull rates [and it has better note reactions than Project Sekai, really])
AS A THUMB PLAYER WHO GETS SORE FINGERS BUT ALSO HAS HAND TOURETTE'S, I AGREE
the two notes disguised as one is the whole reason why i have an instinct to tap big notes with two fingers even though there’s only one
My thumb popped out it’s socket or something trying to do asithete because my thumb has to REACHHH across the screen
How!
3:11 hack: tap the judgement line, if it tips then it’s still going, if not then it’s over
Yesss I used this ever since I discovered that when the show ends it doesn't let you tap more
3:09 Pro Player move: when playing these types of songs, press down and if the bar lights up, the song isn't over yet. It doesn't react to the touch once you've cleared the show! (IM AKITO SHINONOME TRUST)
Thanks Akito for helpful tutorial ☺️
@@UwU28 akito always helps
AKITO? IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR U
For “Oh shit it’s still going” I usually do a small tap at the end of a song when I think it’s still going and when the song pauses, even if I know it’s still going.
I got it from ItzJolted
I HATE sharp turns. Like WDYM I missed?? I DIDNT MISS-
HOW DO I U-TURN-
LMAO
Reborn... I hate the chart sm
iffudoudou's master chart's sliders makes me cry 😭
@@mrithyunthegamerSame💀
Like b- my Thumb nor Fingers are that small bffr
as a person who has been playing for about a year, and might as well be addicted, two notes close together is the worst thing for master mode full combos, that and one large note.
THE TWO NOTES DISGUISED AS ONE ALWAYS GET ME
The notes i hate the most are def the worm ones and that one golden flick that you accidentallly press instead of flicking it because you mistook it by the normal one
"oh shit it's still going"
gehenna moment
I actually kinda like the spiky sliders because they help me get more into the rhythm, and the short sliders are kinda easy to clear (unless it’s a fast song) but I HATE the skinny sliders that curve a lot (reborn on master is hell.)
real!!
the spiky sliders are fun they remind me of sound voltex
so real!!
i was playing cheerful show and yk EVERY TIME SOMEHOW WE GET THE INTENSE VOICE OF HATSUNE MIKU AND IM LIKE "AM I CURSED?????? WTF????" lol 😭
Who when charting The Intense Voice of Hatsune Miku thought it was a good idea to have two consecutive notes in front of each other multiple times when Miku becomes Eminem?
“Oh shit it’s still going” too relatable
when u think a song ended, tap a random note, if it still clicks, it's still going. if it doesn't react, then it's over
"Oh shity its still going," has lost me multiple full clears in my life.
LEGIT SAME- that abrupt prolonged silence KILLS ME
0:16 dont get me started on rin chan now💀
I TRIED IT OH IT WAS MY MISTAKE
Real💀
once i fc’d intense voise of hatsune miku i never touched it again.
the intense voice of hatsune miku is the intense scream of pjsekai players
that gold note and flick sequence on teratera murdered me lmao took me a while to fc that. also i actually love the short holds tho those are great
As a thumb player who plays on a tablet the size of a computer screen I think this entire game is out to get me
thumbs on tablet 😨 ???????
@@mb.ying_It’s actually pretty easy
@@mb.ying_Once you get used to it it’ll be fine
I DIDNT EVEN KNOW FLICKS HAD A DIRECTION ARE U KIDDING ME
oh my fucking god i cannot EXPRESS how much i HATE THOSE TINY NOTES WITH ALL MY BEINGGG 😃 nostalogic on master is my least favorite chart ever just because of those ant sized notes. Like i literally hate those more than any flick note ever.
Blinding Golds and “Oh it’s still going” are my 13th reason why.
NOO 😭
@@mb.ying_ I LOST A PERFECT COMBO COS OF THE LATTER
As a thumb player that has small hands, the Ant-Sized Notes are a P A I N
Relatable, I have thicc-ass thumbs and the ant-sized notes sometimes don't tend to react to me tapping on them
“Oh shit still going” and I are best friends at this point
1:20 2:12 “This side.. Uhh.. No, that side!” Ahh notes🙏🙏😭😭🔥🔥
LITERALLYY LOL
Everytime i show my dad my “skills” on pjsk, he goes, “nice finger tapping.” FINGER TAPPING?! EXCUSE ME 😭
they don’t know our pain 😔
The short sliders in piano x forte x scandal are freaking DEADLY
"the entirety of the intense voice of Hatsune miku" is so real😭😭
Flicks in slider notes:😄
Normal flicks💀💀💀
poor thumb players. dont worry! i have some recommendations for yall!
yaminabe - master
whats up? pop! - master
intense voice of hatsune miku - expert or master
end of hatsune miku - master
rin-chan now! - master
Yes those are some the most easy songs ❤❤
tyy ill be sure to check those out !!!!!!❤️
I can ap those on one finger, it's so beginner friendly ❤🥰
I HATE SHORT SLIDERS WITH MY ENTIRE BEING
OMG I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
"Intense voice of hatsune miku" is simply the charting team yelling "RANDOM BULLSHI-T GO!!"
LMAOO
not really, there is a pattern
3:11 MESSES ME UP SO MUCH LIKE ALL COMBO AP THEN BOOM ALL GONE. EVEN WORSE IF ITS IN CO-OP😭
the worst is two flick notes AT THE SAME TIME, CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, and GOING IN CLASHING DIRECTIONS such that your fingers will bang together that's the worst one for me
You know you got a miss when you hear the nails clanging against each other…
@@mb.ying_ YES :"(((
i like the intense voice of hatsune miku since i prefer to spam normal notes rather than flick notes
Sameee
ohh this is so accurate. short holds have broken so many combos T-T
when it said "ant sized notes", i alrdy knew itd be patchwork staccato😭😭😭😭
SHORT HOLDS ARE THE WORST. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO MAKE ME THINK OTHERWISE. KIDNAP MY FAMILY AND THIS OPINION WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
i actually really like short holds- they kinda just feel like more taps for me
i love golden notes they're so shiny and make sparkle sound
and they look so fluffy to touch, and they are actually fluffy to touch
I love the short sliders,spiky notes,and the gold notes.a good way to test if it’s still going is to keep tapping until it doesn’t let you.
the worst are the small slider THAT GO EVERYWHERE, like reborn and usseewas master would be so easy IF THE SLIDERS WOULD STAY STILL AHHHHHHH
My worst nightmare are TONS of little notes covering the whole board! Project sekai sometimes forgets that we all only have two pairs of hands, the game must have been built by a group of octopuses!
You got me laughing for a solid minute 🤣
intense voice of hatsune miku except i have fat fingers and my speed is at 11.3 speed so i just spam press the middle part and it somehow ends up working
Two notes disguised as one is the bane of my existence
Edit: the consecutive flicks too, wait no, its ALL OF EM flicks
Miku possessed me and I full comboed on the intense voice of miku on expert and master😨
WHAT
@@Mitsuri_fann I'M BUILT DIFFERENT
@@R4iko._ LITERALLY
@@Mitsuri_fann RIGHT.
a bit of advice: when u think a song ended, tap a random note, if it still clicks, it's still going. if it doesn't react, then it's over.
idk if i explained it well...
as a former thumb player, i can confirm i was suffering so much that i switched my playstyle 😀
You forgot one:When MIKU posses you with her 3 songs
isnt that a good thing or somethinf
The worst is when there are flick notes and normal notes at once
3:19 When I say I freaked out when I FC’d the hard mode- I wasn’t expecting it at all lmao
Blinding Golden Notes: *Me trying to full combo Rin-chan now in master* Why are we here... Just to suffer... 🙃
That part where you try to jack the notes alternatively and suddenly both of your fingers sync
IM SO PRUD OF MYSELF I DID THE INTENSE VOICE OF HATSUNE MIKU FULL PERFECT COMBO ON MASTER ON 11 SPEED
as a thumb player i fear your power
@@goddamnit_vinne >:)
I can't for the life of me so intense voice and disappearance's spam notes
the worst thing about intense voice of miku is when i make one little mistake (eg get good not great) suddenly i can tplay at all and i fail the majority of the notes
That one moment when you realize your hiting all notes and your not even trying
almost full combo the song Intense Voice of Hatsune Miku.. IF IT WERENT FOR THE SPAM NITES AT THE END.. 😭😔
I almost did the same for end of Hatsune Miku and almost unlocked Master but then I MISSED ONE TOO MANY 😭
I can play the intense voice of hatsune Miku but as soon as I get a good,bad or a miss I immediately die because I get distracted 😔
as a thumb player who broke their thumb and now uses index, most of these were a problem but now aren't
a tip for the lots of flicks in different directuons, you don’t have to flick flicks in the direction theyre facing - you can flick them all up, left, right , even down, just as long as you flick them
yeah, but it counts as great, so it doesnt work when youre trying to ap
I have and entire list of ones I beef with
1. When it goes 2 connected notes, and the a single whole note right after that, and then repeats the 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1 over and over again.
2. When one of the connected notes in a flick note and the other isn’t
3. When both are flick notes but they go in different directions
4. When the beginning of the song is 1000x harder than the chorus
5. When the majority of the notes in a spam song are in the middle, but theres a bunch of notes on the farthest lane on either side (r.i.p thumb players)
6. When there’s a note immediately after a flick note in the same lane (takes too long to get my finger back down)
7. When a huge slider suddenly becomes ant sized in the farthest lane before you can process the fact that it’s shrinking
8. The ant sized sliders in general, they’re so unforgiving when you even slightly move off of them
9. The entirety of What’s up? Pop!
10. (The golden note hate but remixed) when the sliders that have a crap ton of beats inside them are golden (like the last slider of don’t fight the music expert)
11. When the 5 billion spam notes are all in a row (like master mode of underwater)
12. When the hard part of the song is so far into the song that it takes you forever to restart and get back to it if you mess up (bonus anger points if the rest of the chart before that part is boring)
13. Literally any song with Miku’s name in it. (End of Hatsune Miku, intense voice of Hatsune Miku, Hatsune creation myth)
14. Songs that give you a false sense of security by being super easy on hard mode and then throw the hardest chart imaginable on expert (don’t fight the music, end of Hatsune Miku, and intense voice of Hatsune Miku specifically)
this game is your worst enemy 🙏
@@mb.ying_ pretty much 😭
Mikumiku ni shite ageru?
I personally despise ant sized notes specifically on the farthest sides, and I play with my index fingers
for being such a low difficulty master song Echo has a lot of notes that piss me right off the bat
3:20 I still remember how I felt when my older brother full combo it on hard without changing his normal speed-
THE SHORT HOLDS IN JACK POT SAD GIRL, AHHH MAKES ME MAD
Gehenna is just "oh shit it's still going" twoce
3:21
I honestly love intense voice because it’s not the note spamming that I have a problem with. It’s the fact that my brain gets so hyped up that I mess up before the note spamming but also also I only play on Hard because I’m not ready for Expert yet so
The song is still going
i despise especially on expert mode.
I have let guard down and look up for a split sec and my combo is dead
me in Gehenna
If y'all think the "intense voice of Hatsune Miku" is hard, you are gonna HATE "the disapearance of Hatsune Miku "
i did both and its kinda eqss for me tho,,,
Played it on normal,8.0 speed,DIED 2 TIMES
i cleared disappearance and not intense...
I cleared both…
Creation myth 🫡
@@blowsuppankaneswithmind same but hard diff,i died alot in master.
I especially hate the sliders that go from one side to another when they have NOTES NEXT TO THEM! LIKE BRUH- I CANT SLIDE MY FINGER ACROSS AND ALSO PRESS THE NOTE THAT MY HAND IS BLOCKING WITH MY OTHER FINGER👺
kirapipi☆kirapika master chart is playable with thumbs but its so hard for what😭😭
@@meowmieawnya who knows...wait- HOW DO THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE CHARTS JUST THINK OF ADDING ALL THOSE NOTES IN BEAT? 💀
3:00 ALWAYS tap the bar, if the white lines or whatever they are dont show up that means the song is done
THIS
I do this so often now it and it helps so much
0:15 I’m a thumb player with a laggy phone so whenever these notes come it will get laggy for some reason + its so bright like what
Same
LMAO SAME! 😭
I actually quite like short holds - the trick there is to just treat it as any regular note spam and ignore the hold parts, because those WILL get registered just due to the length your finger is on the screen naturally!
Fun fact with flick notes you can just swipe in any direction and they'll still count
I know you mentioned short holds, but I have a personal distain for diagonal quick slides, they have killed so many full combo runs and I LOATHEEEE them
I remember when at the exact same song these shit fuck me up (but not necessarily) throughout the song 1:45
oh shit it's still playing : me when bitter choco decoration
Gehenna on the jp server has like two fake endings and it throws me off every time
As a new player of project seakai and a thumb main i can accurately say it burns my hand
Me too
1:20 As a thumb player in arcaea I can confirm that the muscle memory to not switch fingers with long sliders is actually painful 😭😭😭
So real😭
As a new Project Sekai player, this is entirely true, especially the "Oh shit its still going" lol
THE ANT SIZED NOTES + SHARP SLIDES don't even get me started on them
Istg i hate people who choose intense voice of hatsune miko on co op like
DO YOU WANT US TO SUFFER?!?
REAL
Yaminabe!!!! Rn: am i joke to you!?
@@tofiibearzofficial I'M TRYING TO PLAY CHILL PEOPLE STOP PICKING PAIN! IT'S NOT EVEN THE PRO ROOM WHY DO YOU MAKE US SUFFER 😭😭😭
they're tryna flex
mecwho just does it on normal or hard
I actually love the entirety of the intense voice of Hatsune Miku SORRYYYY
✨But on hard difficulty✨
PHEWW 😮💨
I like the entirety of intense voice
on master
because it's pain
(just know I fc'd it on expert so im kinda bored of it now)
ant sized slider notes that start from one side and go to the other
that are also sharp
A tip on how to tell if a chart has ended: tap the screen. If it registers, its still going and if not, it’s over
Fun fact: you don’t need to flick the notes in the direction it says, it’ll still count as a combo if you swipe a left flick note up
HUH
yes but you wont be able to ap because you get a great
You’d Get a Great for That ,And If you have the ,,Late/Early “ button it’ll tell you ,,Wrong direction “ for that too.
As a thumb player, I hate and have a personal vendetta against everyone who selects The Intense Voice in Co-op.
I've gotten into the habit of tapping a few times after the song ends to make sure it's actually over. If it registers me tapping, there's more left. If it doesn't, I'm good.
Also, I submit for your approval: A regular note followed immediately by a flick. Specifically ones where you have to use the same finger for it. For example:
^ -
-
I also submit for your approval:
I‾
I_
‾I
_I
AKA hold note with one finger, notes with at beginning and end of the hold on the other finger, alternating sides multiple times.