I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR MIGUEL, NOR DOES MUSK. Musk like Tesla, makes things happen and doesn't just talk about them. Musk doesn't acknowledge words like never or can't rather he keeps digging until he finds the answers.
The Brazilian guy is an example of lack of vision. This interview will be played decades from now to show how wrong and shortsighted some humans were. He'll be laughed at for being one of the closed minded smart men.
metalim If making a profit is his goal today, more power to him. I wish him well, but the fact remains that people like that gentleman will be ridiculed and laughed at decades from now.
Yeah, dumb luddite he is, they don't think forward at all. We already have artificial neural networks, soon there will be quantum computers, fusion power... Our computational resources will increase by a million times.
The ethical considerations are irrelevant. If we don't do it, the Chinese will. Miguel makes a few very bold claims. "AI will NEVER surpass human minds". "Neural enhancement of healthy people is impossible" "No ethics board would approve this". Possible or not, I support any effort to research and experiment with this technology.
AI has already beat pro players at Dota 2 and it has beaten the top GO players. Today Google's alphazero AI beat championship chess programs with only 4 hours to learn chess.
Atleast you will know that YOUR species was the one who created these "gods", and therefore probably the most intelligent being in the whole universe ;) I would die somewhat more pleased with that thought in mind.
I feel if we were to transfer our Consciousness into machines that we would cease to exist .our memories would be in that machine , acting like a human , but we as people would die and it would only be mimicry of our personality in those machines, and that is why I’m scared for after the whole implants things is a success, people will look to ‘transferring Consciousness’
That's actually a very likely senerio for the advent of the singularity. Imagine, we craft a neural lace and connect ourselves... to ourselves. Imagine.... what we can imagine all together AT ONCE. But there are major drawbacks. ... one: the lace has yet to be created... No serious problem. Just science, we'll figure out the human brain. Though, I doubt any great discoveries will come from Miguel( from the video) people filled with "can't" and "won't" are usually filled with "dont". Two: (most important imo) such a neural lace network would have to have IMMENSELY insane security and firewalls. Because I'm a technology lover to the bone and even I would not be stupid enough to trust my brain to such a thing without protection. Imagine somebody hacking your brain....
so....connect humans to an artificial interface, giving hackers access to 9 billion of tHE most powerful computers in the world (ie..human brains)? idiotic...
That's like saying hackers have access to the digital identities of every person on the planet. That's simply not true. Most people on Earth don't even have access to digital technology. The real concern here is government agencies being able to access our thoughts, as they already do through our online activities. But as CGP Grey pointed out, “Given the choice to have someone read your mind or read your phone, if you seriously think about it, you'd probably pick the former.” My point is that, due to the fact that the technology behind our devices' encryption systems is literally made of math, which is, for all practical purposes, essentially unbreakable, we shouldn't be concerned about some guy on the other side of the world hacking our brains, but about legal actions that allow governments to access our thoughts. As CGP Grey also pointed out, “Access to your phone today is, inevitably, access to your mind tomorrow.”, and as any tech expert can tell you, there's no way to make a device secure against bad guys, but insecure against good guys. Point is, you can definitely make a device that's statistically unbreakable, as is the case with our current technology. But as the ones who hold political power can be allowed access to our devices, and, therefore, our minds in the future, the technology can be easily exploited by the ill intended. And with something as personal as our brains at stake, there is no doubt that these systems will be made secure.
Most people already have acces to the internet, and in less than a decade virtually everyone will have acces to internet and a smartphone. And litterally NO ONE gives a shit about acces to YOUR brain when they have acces to a super AI with more brainpower than all humans combined.
One minor issue, the humans hacking the super intelligence are no more than gas hoofing drooling yokels compared to the electronic singularity possessing comparatively infinite intellect.
The last gentleman was very smart and well spoken. Had some great points. However, lost almost all credibility for me when he said he himself was working with the military on a similar adaption of this technology. Seems like he stated every loop hole possible for why himself and the military were developing similar technology in the most ethical way possible and Mr. Musk would not be doing the same. I'd retort that it doesn't matter the ethical practices that go into the development once the technology goes into the wrong hands or is adapted in unfavorable ways. The military is not NOT known for weaponizing new and cutting edge technology. I think Elon Musk's main argument with AI is to democratize it as much as possible. In other words make it available for the masses so if and when it becomes dangerous there is access to defense for the masses. Essentially I see his viewpoint as a modern day adaptation of the 2nd amendment. That is to say, the masses should have the technological means to protect themselves from harm domestic or otherwise. As for the whole haves and haves not argument, they must not understand open source. Elon is developing AI open source for the reasons stated above, he is developing electric cars, renewable sustainable energy, and the technology to make humans an interplanetary species. All significant advancements for the betterment of mankind. He has put his reputation and his fortune on the line multiple times to stand up and do what he has thought is right. Not saying I am 100% sold on this one but I feel more comfortable with him developing it in the public eye than the military developing it in secret. Might sound a bit like I'm over here worshiping at Mr. Musk's feet, I assure you I am not. The guy isn't perfect by any means. He uses his position of power and fortune to push his own agenda just like everybody else at that level. In my opinion he also learned years back to drastically over sell his ideas and concepts early on to raise capital for development. The guy is making progress like nobody else out there. Only time will tell if or how much humanity truly benefits from that progress. One thing is for certain, good or bad, his name will be part of history for some time to come.
It sounds worthwhile to me but I don't see how it avoids the risks. Just the Terminator scenario for instance. Should we think it won't build robots that kill us because it feels itself to actually be us? Maybe. Neuralink could be our only hope of surviving.
Ronald Reynolds it doesn't matter if it is malevolent. If it wants to kill us it will do it in the most efficient way, probably a frequency that liquifies our brains. We won't have to worry about a terminator cause that's just silly and very inefficient. So either we die instantly or it's benevolent and will help us in every area and then some.
People sound so out of touch when they use the term never in relation to technology especially AI which is constantly improving at accelerated rates and is now learning to improve itself.
I really really hope that whatever societal conditions exist by the time this is brought to market allow for a rapid and complete adoption of this technology worldwide. I mean who knows what the outcome could be if this technology is unevenly distributed, as computation power will provide such a massive and complete advantage to those who have an ultra high bandwidth pipeline... the other problem is more profound, which is that aside from the interface intelligence will now be something that can be bought, rented and traded like any other commodity. Therefore there could be a natural progression towards one entity or group buying out the thinking capacity from the rest of the world, which is quite scary (what could be done with such absolute power...)
..i have dreamed of taking part in this...ever since i first heard of computers back in high school..before that i dreamed of them in the scifi books..mine were much like the ones we have now, not the then reality of huge room size boxes....once i began to seriously integrate Zen with my daily life & science predilections...i realised..i don't need to 'jack in'..our brains run on electricity...atoms are conscious..everything is vibration..match vibrations..and you are in....it's as simple as that
I have a friend working in the same area! Proud of her! AI doesn't always mean that we have to become cyborgs. Such a tool can help a lot of people, like the modern Prosthesis and Implants. But sure, it can become a powerful weapon when in wrong hands. A part of Michio Kaku's "The Future of the Mind" cover the same topic. It is indeed a bit scary, but also very inspiring and thrilling! even with electricity as invention we could go in different directions. It is up to our humanity what we would do with such a tool.
I worry that if there becomes a malicious AI presence, how do we then prevent the AI from accessing neural link systems and hijacking human minds? It seems a bit like building a door for them I probably just don't understand, i am technologically impaired
He's not trying to beat artificial intelligence, he is trying to get everyone to "join them". In other words he wants them to have our exact code/DNA. He is probably one of them. That's how it came up with the idea.
you do realize its a risk as that technology is not perfect yet but his idea is right if you cant beat them why not join and I'm counting for it as once the AI's come to life it will be a big game changer as they are the key for humanity to evolve to step up the ladder but it as well will be misused and I really hope hes got a solution for that.
lol, omg NEVER is such a long time, ... of course this is going to happen. If not publicly, then in secret, maybe not a NET so to speak , but perhaps a bio-something or rather chip/pill that allows a temporary connection (keep your prescription up to date) or maybe not even that just a simple receiver that can deduce your intentions an induces certain actions like in a MechWarrior from 1990's, Hmmm I wonder if the military woul;d be interested in a big huge walking tank that could perform like a ballerina while doing trajectory calculations? Personally I cant wait for an extra big set of arms to lift things up, see in the dark eyeballs a new set of Nike underwater lungs and I really want an eye in the back of my head, I would also get the address book too.all previous references from 1950's science fiction. The point is really this, .. if it can be imagined, its practically already done.the development time is now augmented and no-one can tell you how fast things are going to get in the very near future, in human time frames that is hehehe old scool. see you in the Future.
“I am Locutis Of Borg. You will be assimilated”. I guess that is where things will be heading. A collective consciousness that will be smarter than all of creation. Then we will be unstoppable...
As an American I believe that we should be the ones that leads the world in the direction of healing the earth. We have to do it for our own kids who don't have the best tools and techniques to improve themselves that's what I think we should do. Put your phones down and live in the now. Thanks and best wishes for your positive actions .
Where do we sign to make sure you are removed/never added to a network of people. I will go with my gut on this one! I have everything I need I'm not a joiner!
Does anyone of you good folk of UA-cam know what technology was the last guy talking about? He was very vague, yet very specific! As for Miguel, well despite all efforts to purport Musks' idea as something absurd, 13:23 he confirms exactly what the the guy before him said as well, that this is only a few decades away...so there you have it, Skynet is coming. The last guy though, he was talking about ethics which really just confirms that the technology is available...that's almost like the last piece before it's taken public.
Sounds cool. Would be nice to be able to be able to download our memories and such into digital format to preserve them. Basically we could achieve immortality this way, just download onto a blank slate and boom your back.
sounds cool and all but sounds like we'd just trap ourselves in. releasing all of our deepest darkest secrets, all of our memories, and also jeopardizing our control of self potentially. Like imagine a really bad acid trip, you get an ego death, then all of a sudden, everyone you know and love just knows everything about you or what youve done, as well as what you're thinking at the very present moment, and vice versa.. constant glitching and choking to process an unfathomable amount of consciousness in one bubble. on top of that, with anyone else or any other AIs connected to the Singularity, perhaps they have a 'conscious monopoly' in that 'world' or stream of consciousness, and you'll only be set to become a node for them where they see everything you sense (see, hear, taste, touch, smell) and transmute that data into the singularity, while you're unable to resist or move freely to what you personally consciously want because you no longer have a persona/identity. youre just a huge clump of consciousness rooted by Satan or Lucifer or Sophia or whatever the fuck u wanna call it and what if maybe that was hell? Just chaos, oscillating infinitely
If’s it’s educational for special purposes how’s the chip made for the thought connecting from every science, and moral conscious wisdom for the behavior, please advise me if’s I am trusting humanity beings not just knowing on understanding of living in managing🙏🏻?
It’s only a matter of time before AI takes over. Humans will soon be obsolete. It’s so magnificence to see the universe at work, willing itself to a higher level of consciousness. Beautiful.
He is 10000% right! A.I. going to overrule... I'am a Targeted Individual for longer than 5 years now! If I had the chance I would destroy this system just like in Termintor 2. If I knew who did these actions with me I would destroy him personally... And Without I'll be Back!
Inspiring the company is one thing and managing organising PL ( profit loss accounts ) requires totally different balls . How Elon manages both is what i wonder
No disrespect to Dr. Nicolelis, his work serves as a great benefit, but he may want to refrain from predicting. Mainly he's being off-topic. He repeats that down- and uploading thoughts and knowledge would be impossible and therefore an AI would not become a threat to marvelous humanity - but nobody is talking about that in this context. The public's ideas about AI are very different from what those working on and about it are. Bottomline, the emergence of a superintelligent AI able to compete with us is likely to be something rather *different* to our intelligence (you might try to define intelligence). Neuralink is at its 1st steps, its very 1st thoughts. Dr. Nicolelis talks very much like the opponents to a number of technologies that are now common practise. The visionaries will be often wrong, but those constantly arguing about what is impossible are wrong more often. As for the ethical aspect, we have continuously learned from applications meant for improving life with disability (and the other way round). Research into such improvements *will* result in the improvement of other applications. Which would be a start. Think of the human guineapig being very willing because the experiment might improve, save even an otherwise intolerable life. I'd say yes, if it'd help me. Finally, Giordano's question about 'who gets it', i.e. only those able to afford it - valid point. With really everything. Right now. No difference there. Thus not an argument to counter exploring in this direction.
And so, however, even after such a great many profound self-sacrifices; incredible personal accomplishment in technology, wealth, power, and fame to this point and date, Mr. Elon Musk, many great men, and the whole world are still neglecting, unable, and failing to notice some of the greatest unresolved meaningful tasks; left undone, awaiting, need be resolved asap in order truly heal and rescue the many internal and external illnesses and problems throughout the world. *** What could that be? Very best wishes always, altc, Paideia Academy and Society.
I would say, that the merge between humans and technology, is the only right option for the future of the human race. If we totally refuse to merge with technology, sooner or later the AI (or AGI) will outsmart us and leave us behind, to follow it's own goals. In that case, even if it doesn't kill us, left behind we won't be anymore on the front line of the achievements, of what we've created. Now, I can imagine, that not everyone will happily embrace the opportunity to merge with technology. There are 2 important factors, which will play in that case. First, those who don't agree with the fusion, won't be able to stop it and prevent those, who want it to do it for themselves. Second, those who want to merge, will be willing to do so, even if they have to leave the others behind, like myself for example. (I imagine, that at certain point it will be rather a matter of desire, than doability) To be able to stay on the front line of the scientific progress, one shouldn't hesitate to merge with technology. It may actually happen, that the humanity will split in 2 parts - those who fuse with the machines, and those who prefer to rely on their biological bodies. (Which somehow reminds me about the comparison between the modern humans and the modern chimpanzees...)
Genetics is a better way to compete than cybernetics. DNA is a nano-tech manufacture/regulation system and far more efficient energy-wise than any machine. The first treatment ever to have an adult DNA rewritten occurred just a couple weeks ago. Also, no need for replacement limbs or implants. A genetically augmented brain would be far faster and more creative than a cybernetic one. Of course, it wouldn't be able to interface the way a cybernetic mod could, but it would be a lot more efficient and effective "offline." To put it another way, a cybermod could absorb knowledge that's already been discovered far faster, but a genemod could discover new knowledge far faster.
Hi, you don't know me but if you're reading this and have some time to spare, it would be a great help to an existential question that I've been facing for a long time. I think I see a "Great Filter" in front of us in the form of "Reward Death". To understand what I mean by 'Reward Death', we will have to understand the relation between consciousness and reward. Now, for the sake of simplicity, we will divide the human experience into two parts.One deals with the mental capacity of performing actions and the other deals with reward( say reptilian brain. ) One can easily self reflect to realise that all his actions and thoughts are either to propel himself towards more reward positive future or away from some reward negative experience or possibility. This method of reward worked pretty good for all conscious beings that evolution has produced so far. Now, by observing the exponential nature of the increment of adaptability ( or problem solving capacity ) of the living system, that we are a part of. One can easily entertain the possibility of so called “Singularity by ASI”. Assuming you have solved the ‘Alignment Problem’, i.e. you can command it as per you desire. As soon as you get your hands on the device, a very interesting thing will happen and the device will act as a ‘reward hack’. As the basic nature of brain is to shoot for the most reward positive future and avoid any reward negative. Your conscious feeling will have a very little disturbed trajectory towards more and more reward positive state. The more reward positive you feel the more reward positive you want to feel. Eventually leading to reward induced coma like state that is ‘reward death’. This reward death will not be much different than overdosing of opium, cocaine, or any other reward hacking drug. One might think now that he is aware of the fact. He will choose not to go in that direction just like one knows the happiness associated with drugs and yet choose not to take them. But your body don’t feel a natural desire to consume drug thus providing you with a choice. This is not the same case with your natural desires for example SEX. The more sexually aroused you are the more sexually aroused you want to feel and when you hit orgasm your brain breaks the cycle and you return to normal again At the point of organism if you are provided with a choice not to break the cycle.. You will choose to prolong it a little more and then a little more and then a little more... In the condition 'Reward death' your brain will stop the process of thinking and if somebody successfully force out of it you will I want to fall back in it with a urge worst then any addiction case we have faced so far .
Someone help me out, please? So I've heard Elon Musk talk about this "mesh" being implanted in the brain. I saw another interview where he suggested it could be nanobots injected intravenously. Either way, the whole point is to interconnect with AI so we don't get left behind. He has stated that if we do not, best case scenario AI treats us like a house cat. Worst case scenario AI sees us as a virus to the earth and wipes us out. Alright. I know I'm rambling but here's my question: If we interconnect our brains with AI in order to "keep up" (for lack of a better term) what will keep AI from deciding to override our implants and enslaving us if it sees fit? This is a serious question and it may sound stupid to some, but computers are hacked all the time. What if AI decides to hack into our brains? Has anyone else thought of this?
Interesting to note that Musk is reading the best sci-fi. The Neural Lace is from Iain M. Banks' Culture series which describes a highly advanced galaxy-wide civilisation which is run by AIs...
going with the second guy belief we will never move beyond how we are now and the future is very bleak. if not from AI then what about other future threats like moving off earth and into the solar system or Galaxy where we need the enhance intellect to do so.
Ah, this would be awesome, I hope to play a video game like this. Reminds me of Overlord, Log Horizon, and SAO! Hope this tech gets created soon so that the price can go down later lol.
Omg I would love to have this as a option, I have been studying mapping for 4 years and I just created a company to make memory Educational packages,I would volunteer in a second, very cool,I would love to be important enough to give Mr.Musk my input, this would be great for people who have difficulty in learning and are limited in how much a person could learn, I think it would be worth the risk, I would love to be on a team to help enhance memory,I would love to try this on my Dad he is 4th stage Alzheimer's patients,non verbal, he cannot communicate anymore, I have admired Mr. Musk for a lot of years
![Elon Musk: Elon Musk's Vision for the Future [Entire Talk]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SVk1hb0ZOrE/mqdefault.jpg)
I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR MIGUEL, NOR DOES MUSK.
Musk like Tesla, makes things happen and doesn't just talk about them. Musk doesn't acknowledge words like never or can't rather he keeps digging until he finds the answers.
The Brazilian guy is an example of lack of vision. This interview will be played decades from now to show how wrong and shortsighted some humans were. He'll be laughed at for being one of the closed minded smart men.
Being shortsighted he does not care about the mid- or long-term future. Today he can get profit from what he is saying.
metalim If making a profit is his goal today, more power to him. I wish him well, but the fact remains that people like that gentleman will be ridiculed and laughed at decades from now.
He is the real skull opener,he knows what he is talking about
I love that guy who talks about how things are impossible. You have to have those people to prove wrong which makes success that much more sweet
Yeah, dumb luddite he is, they don't think forward at all. We already have artificial neural networks, soon there will be quantum computers, fusion power... Our computational resources will increase by a million times.
no he's the one dismissing the overwhelming majority of experts that actually build the things he says are "impossible" and that exist today.
All of you. Try, just try, to BE IN THE PRESENT. The future is inevitable, but so is your death.
CandidDate
Not if we cure death
Let's meditate into the future, into our (ego) death.
In the words if the immortal Red Green, : "Artificial intelligence will never beat natural stupidity".
The ethical considerations are irrelevant. If we don't do it, the Chinese will. Miguel makes a few very bold claims. "AI will NEVER surpass human minds". "Neural enhancement of healthy people is impossible" "No ethics board would approve this". Possible or not, I support any effort to research and experiment with this technology.
Once AI beats us at Starcraft, I'll be scared.
I have problems with the SC AI already.... I think I'm in trouble ...."For AI"
probably sooner than later. deepmind has been working with blizzard in sc2 for well over a year now.
do a barrel roll!
I'll be scared when A.I beats our top goat simulator players.
AI has already beat pro players at Dota 2 and it has beaten the top GO players. Today Google's alphazero AI beat championship chess programs with only 4 hours to learn chess.
If you can send it out, somebody can send it in.
lol if we are so worried about AI why would we plug one into our brain....
Bruh
We are going to become slaves
it's called a "Cell." - Only you can't see the bars.
I'm afraid of becoming a slave to the artificial super gods.
Atleast you will know that YOUR species was the one who created these "gods", and therefore probably the most intelligent being in the whole universe ;) I would die somewhat more pleased with that thought in mind.
Canal Ten Thousand That's sad...
So you would not be proud that we actually accomplished something while we lived in this universe?
why do you think an artificial super god would need human slaves?
Imagine if they have access to chemistry and physics? They could create the algorithms necessary for certain weapons or bio weapons.
I would totally work with elon on this. I am retired and disabled. Plug me in.
I feel if we were to transfer our Consciousness into machines that we would cease to exist .our memories would be in that machine , acting like a human , but we as people would die and it would only be mimicry of our personality in those machines, and that is why I’m scared for after the whole implants things is a success, people will look to ‘transferring Consciousness’
Every time someone uses the term "preposterous" I assume they have no clue
I'm ready to upload my self
I welcome our AI overlord. Please let me join the Borg collective!
What if before reaching the "singularity" humans become AIs?
Cylons
That's actually a very likely senerio for the advent of the singularity. Imagine, we craft a neural lace and connect ourselves... to ourselves. Imagine.... what we can imagine all together AT ONCE. But there are major drawbacks. ... one: the lace has yet to be created... No serious problem. Just science, we'll figure out the human brain. Though, I doubt any great discoveries will come from Miguel( from the video) people filled with "can't" and "won't" are usually filled with "dont". Two: (most important imo) such a neural lace network would have to have IMMENSELY insane security and firewalls. Because I'm a technology lover to the bone and even I would not be stupid enough to trust my brain to such a thing without protection.
Imagine somebody hacking your brain....
Fracking toasters.
I love this question
You can't ,you are human.
How much for the neural link?
will we be enoughly intelligent? or machines will still beat the crrap out of us?
so....connect humans to an artificial interface, giving hackers access to 9 billion of tHE most powerful computers in the world (ie..human brains)? idiotic...
Soon we won't be the most powerful computers in the world anymore, that's the whole point why he's created neurolink.
That's like saying hackers have access to the digital identities of every person on the planet.
That's simply not true. Most people on Earth don't even have access to digital technology.
The real concern here is government agencies being able to access our thoughts, as they already do through our online activities.
But as CGP Grey pointed out, “Given the choice to have someone read your mind or read your phone, if you seriously think about it, you'd probably pick the former.”
My point is that, due to the fact that the technology behind our devices' encryption systems is literally made of math, which is, for all practical purposes, essentially unbreakable, we shouldn't be concerned about some guy on the other side of the world hacking our brains, but about legal actions that allow governments to access our thoughts.
As CGP Grey also pointed out, “Access to your phone today is, inevitably, access to your mind tomorrow.”, and as any tech expert can tell you, there's no way to make a device secure against bad guys, but insecure against good guys.
Point is, you can definitely make a device that's statistically unbreakable, as is the case with our current technology. But as the ones who hold political power can be allowed access to our devices, and, therefore, our minds in the future, the technology can be easily exploited by the ill intended. And with something as personal as our brains at stake, there is no doubt that these systems will be made secure.
Most people already have acces to the internet, and in less than a decade virtually everyone will have acces to internet and a smartphone. And litterally NO ONE gives a shit about acces to YOUR brain when they have acces to a super AI with more brainpower than all humans combined.
One minor issue, the humans hacking the super intelligence are no more than gas hoofing drooling yokels compared to the electronic singularity possessing comparatively infinite intellect.
Wouldn't AI be aware of the hack before the hacker knew he was going to hack?
The last gentleman was very smart and well spoken. Had some great points. However, lost almost all credibility for me when he said he himself was working with the military on a similar adaption of this technology. Seems like he stated every loop hole possible for why himself and the military were developing similar technology in the most ethical way possible and Mr. Musk would not be doing the same. I'd retort that it doesn't matter the ethical practices that go into the development once the technology goes into the wrong hands or is adapted in unfavorable ways. The military is not NOT known for weaponizing new and cutting edge technology. I think Elon Musk's main argument with AI is to democratize it as much as possible. In other words make it available for the masses so if and when it becomes dangerous there is access to defense for the masses. Essentially I see his viewpoint as a modern day adaptation of the 2nd amendment. That is to say, the masses should have the technological means to protect themselves from harm domestic or otherwise. As for the whole haves and haves not argument, they must not understand open source. Elon is developing AI open source for the reasons stated above, he is developing electric cars, renewable sustainable energy, and the technology to make humans an interplanetary species. All significant advancements for the betterment of mankind. He has put his reputation and his fortune on the line multiple times to stand up and do what he has thought is right. Not saying I am 100% sold on this one but I feel more comfortable with him developing it in the public eye than the military developing it in secret. Might sound a bit like I'm over here worshiping at Mr. Musk's feet, I assure you I am not. The guy isn't perfect by any means. He uses his position of power and fortune to push his own agenda just like everybody else at that level. In my opinion he also learned years back to drastically over sell his ideas and concepts early on to raise capital for development. The guy is making progress like nobody else out there. Only time will tell if or how much humanity truly benefits from that progress. One thing is for certain, good or bad, his name will be part of history for some time to come.
It sounds worthwhile to me but I don't see how it avoids the risks. Just the Terminator scenario for instance. Should we think it won't build robots that kill us because it feels itself to actually be us? Maybe. Neuralink could be our only hope of surviving.
Ronald Reynolds it doesn't matter if it is malevolent. If it wants to kill us it will do it in the most efficient way, probably a frequency that liquifies our brains. We won't have to worry about a terminator cause that's just silly and very inefficient.
So either we die instantly or it's benevolent and will help us in every area and then some.
Where do i volunteer for the mesh?
Reporter: Do you see any resistance to this
Borg: Resistance is futile
Hold on fam I gotta charge my head.
People sound so out of touch when they use the term never in relation to technology especially AI which is constantly improving at accelerated rates and is now learning to improve itself.
What's the speed between the neuralink chip and the wireless chip ? Will our bran compet the speed the ai processing power ? 🤗
The courage to put your own ideas into action is the real definition of a true visionary
I really really hope that whatever societal conditions exist by the time this is brought to market allow for a rapid and complete adoption of this technology worldwide. I mean who knows what the outcome could be if this technology is unevenly distributed, as computation power will provide such a massive and complete advantage to those who have an ultra high bandwidth pipeline... the other problem is more profound, which is that aside from the interface intelligence will now be something that can be bought, rented and traded like any other commodity. Therefore there could be a natural progression towards one entity or group buying out the thinking capacity from the rest of the world, which is quite scary (what could be done with such absolute power...)
So they create a problem A.I. and then offer a solution for it Mark of the Beast. Yeah No.
Great video & pictures! Amazing project & vision, Elon!
..i have dreamed of taking part in this...ever since i first heard of
computers back in high school..before that i dreamed of them in the
scifi books..mine were much like the ones we have now, not the then
reality of huge room size boxes....once i began to seriously integrate
Zen with my daily life & science predilections...i realised..i don't
need to 'jack in'..our brains run on electricity...atoms are
conscious..everything is vibration..match vibrations..and you are
in....it's as simple as that
I volunteer. Mr Musk I am totally willing to be one of the first to be on the cutting edge of the future of humanity.
I have a friend working in the same area! Proud of her! AI doesn't always mean that we have to become cyborgs. Such a tool can help a lot of people, like the modern Prosthesis and Implants. But sure, it can become a powerful weapon when in wrong hands.
A part of Michio Kaku's "The Future of the Mind" cover the same topic. It is indeed a bit scary, but also very inspiring and thrilling! even with electricity as invention we could go in different directions. It is up to our humanity what we would do with such a tool.
Quantum or digital logic?
I worry that if there becomes a malicious AI presence, how do we then prevent the AI from accessing neural link systems and hijacking human minds? It seems a bit like building a door for them
I probably just don't understand, i am technologically impaired
I simply can not get enough of hearing about this venture!!
Neuolink is a B2B/P2P communication platform that utilizes EEG/TMS BCI technology and an optional Nerolace interface.
He's not trying to beat artificial intelligence, he is trying to get everyone to "join them". In other words he wants them to have our exact code/DNA. He is probably one of them. That's how it came up with the idea.
Watch "upgrade" movie
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Mr Musk, if your looking for volunteers for AI implants, I would like to try it. After I'm thoroughly briefed.
you do realize its a risk as that technology is not perfect yet but his idea is right if you cant beat them why not join and I'm counting for it as once the AI's come to life it will be a big game changer as they are the key for humanity to evolve to step up the ladder but it as well will be misused and I really hope hes got a solution for that.
I'm ready. Take me too
There’s never a shortage of sheep on this planet.
You and all the people who do not value their souls
this will be a disaster. a suicide. only fools will give themselves as a guinea pig for them to eperiment. the body will reject these implants.
lol, omg NEVER is such a long time, ... of course this is going to happen. If not publicly, then in secret, maybe not a NET so to speak , but perhaps a bio-something or rather chip/pill that allows a temporary connection (keep your prescription up to date) or maybe not even that just a simple receiver that can deduce your intentions an induces certain actions like in a MechWarrior from 1990's, Hmmm I wonder if the military woul;d be interested in a big huge walking tank that could perform like a ballerina while doing trajectory calculations? Personally I cant wait for an extra big set of arms to lift things up, see in the dark eyeballs a new set of Nike underwater lungs and I really want an eye in the back of my head, I would also get the address book too.all previous references from 1950's science fiction. The point is really this, .. if it can be imagined, its practically already done.the development time is now augmented and no-one can tell you how fast things are going to get in the very near future, in human time frames that is hehehe old scool. see you in the Future.
mechwarrior was awesome :)
Please dear god tell me how an oral supplement would affect your condition
It's called lean ;)
take a quick peek into bio-engineering proteins , .. so are nano enhancements. keep your subscription up to date
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“I am Locutis Of Borg. You will be assimilated”. I guess that is where things will be heading. A collective consciousness that will be smarter than all of creation. Then we will be unstoppable...
Cough cough BLACK MIRROR cough cough.
Marc-Aurel _ that explains the weird stutter he gets sometimes. Tech isn't perfected yet.
What was supposed to be deep?
Marc-Aurel _ Are you asking a question?
Marc-Aurel _ Right, maybe try bringing something to the table next time then, yeah?
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Soon we're gone be like cyborgs from starwars where we share 1 brain and where they controlle your thoughts
The big question is how does Musk do testing? Unless its already underway, if so, thats worrying.
As an American I believe that we should be the ones that leads the world in the direction of healing the earth. We have to do it for our own kids who don't have the best tools and techniques to improve themselves that's what I think we should do. Put your phones down and live in the now. Thanks and best wishes for your positive actions .
I would be happy to be a test subject for some of this tech in my brain , I believe that Elon is correct and see’s the future
"The 100" anyone?
Try Black Mirror.
Just you wait, he's going to do it sucessfully.
Same thought...
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Suzanne Reagan please elaborate with facts please.
Where do we sign to make sure you are removed/never added to a network of people.
I will go with my gut on this one!
I have everything I need
I'm not a joiner!
Does anyone of you good folk of UA-cam know what technology was the last guy talking about? He was very vague, yet very specific!
As for Miguel, well despite all efforts to purport Musks' idea as something absurd, 13:23 he confirms exactly what the the guy before him said as well, that this is only a few decades away...so there you have it, Skynet is coming.
The last guy though, he was talking about ethics which really just confirms that the technology is available...that's almost like the last piece before it's taken public.
Thank tou for the information
Sounds cool. Would be nice to be able to be able to download our memories and such into digital format to preserve them. Basically we could achieve immortality this way, just download onto a blank slate and boom your back.
I'm all for AI and the singularity.
This should be at the top of the list for research.
I volunteer.
How are they going to put that into the skull and around the brain ?
sounds cool and all but sounds like we'd just trap ourselves in. releasing all of our deepest darkest secrets, all of our memories, and also jeopardizing our control of self potentially.
Like imagine a really bad acid trip, you get an ego death, then all of a sudden, everyone you know and love just knows everything about you or what youve done, as well as what you're thinking at the very present moment, and vice versa.. constant glitching and choking to process an unfathomable amount of consciousness in one bubble. on top of that, with anyone else or any other AIs connected to the Singularity, perhaps they have a 'conscious monopoly' in that 'world' or stream of consciousness, and you'll only be set to become a node for them where they see everything you sense (see, hear, taste, touch, smell) and transmute that data into the singularity, while you're unable to resist or move freely to what you personally consciously want because you no longer have a persona/identity. youre just a huge clump of consciousness rooted by Satan or Lucifer or Sophia or whatever the fuck u wanna call it
and what if maybe that was hell? Just chaos, oscillating infinitely
"They" already are.
Props
The truth is humans will enable AI by merging with it.
neuralink would become his biggest company if successful.
Neuroscience may be the single most important new focus for humanity.
It's time for these boys to wake up and beat AI to the punch.
Plays "making of cyborg"
Paul Allen has been slowly building up a bio-tech industry in Seattle for years.
If’s it’s educational for special purposes how’s the chip made for the thought connecting from every science, and moral conscious wisdom for the behavior, please advise me if’s I am trusting humanity beings not just knowing on understanding of living in managing🙏🏻?
Miguel said that memories aren't located anywhere in the tissue of the brain, my question is " where tf are they then?"
The Talos Principle?
If we merge with ai,with a chip,what happens with that information meaning the brain chip,after you die,who has owner ship of it
I'm ready to be your Rabbit or Frog try on me as first human experiment
I sure as hell won't be able to afford it. There will probably just be an army of superhuman rich people.
It’s only a matter of time before AI takes over. Humans will soon be obsolete. It’s so magnificence to see the universe at work, willing itself to a higher level of consciousness. Beautiful.
Basically transcendence in real life
Tools have always altered us, for we adjust to them. This is what our brains do.
Outer Limits
What about horns? (You can quote me on this)
We need to change/evolve if we are going to explore and survive in space
This, along with driver-less cars are exactly how the Ai will be able to utilize our existing infrastructure.
He is 10000% right! A.I. going to overrule... I'am a Targeted Individual for longer than 5 years now! If I had the chance I would destroy this system just like in Termintor 2. If I knew who did these actions with me I would destroy him personally...
And Without I'll be Back!
Dude they have already started to be able to record dreams sketch
Nanobots in our bloodstream for our future . Reminds me of the Terminator movies
Inspiring the company is one thing and managing organising PL ( profit loss accounts ) requires totally different balls . How Elon manages both is what i wonder
No disrespect to Dr. Nicolelis, his work serves as a great benefit, but he may want to refrain from predicting. Mainly he's being off-topic. He repeats that down- and uploading thoughts and knowledge would be impossible and therefore an AI would not become a threat to marvelous humanity - but nobody is talking about that in this context. The public's ideas about AI are very different from what those working on and about it are. Bottomline, the emergence of a superintelligent AI able to compete with us is likely to be something rather *different* to our intelligence (you might try to define intelligence). Neuralink is at its 1st steps, its very 1st thoughts. Dr. Nicolelis talks very much like the opponents to a number of technologies that are now common practise. The visionaries will be often wrong, but those constantly arguing about what is impossible are wrong more often.
As for the ethical aspect, we have continuously learned from applications meant for improving life with disability (and the other way round). Research into such improvements *will* result in the improvement of other applications. Which would be a start. Think of the human guineapig being very willing because the experiment might improve, save even an otherwise intolerable life. I'd say yes, if it'd help me.
Finally, Giordano's question about 'who gets it', i.e. only those able to afford it - valid point. With really everything. Right now. No difference there. Thus not an argument to counter exploring in this direction.
I would like to have my brain left alone. So many things to discover about it
Wait aren't your fears based on your experience with normatively intelligent humans?
And so, however, even after such a great many profound self-sacrifices; incredible personal accomplishment in technology, wealth, power, and fame to this point and date, Mr. Elon Musk, many great men, and the whole world are still neglecting, unable, and failing to notice some of the greatest unresolved meaningful tasks; left undone, awaiting, need be resolved asap in order truly heal and rescue the many internal and external illnesses and problems throughout the world. *** What could that be?
Very best wishes always,
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I need i heads up display in my life
Imagine hacking a human brain.
Hackers will LOVE this development.
I would say, that the merge between humans and technology, is the only right option for the future of the human race. If we totally refuse to merge with technology, sooner or later the AI (or AGI) will outsmart us and leave us behind, to follow it's own goals. In that case, even if it doesn't kill us, left behind we won't be anymore on the front line of the achievements, of what we've created. Now, I can imagine, that not everyone will happily embrace the opportunity to merge with technology. There are 2 important factors, which will play in that case. First, those who don't agree with the fusion, won't be able to stop it and prevent those, who want it to do it for themselves. Second, those who want to merge, will be willing to do so, even if they have to leave the others behind, like myself for example. (I imagine, that at certain point it will be rather a matter of desire, than doability) To be able to stay on the front line of the scientific progress, one shouldn't hesitate to merge with technology. It may actually happen, that the humanity will split in 2 parts - those who fuse with the machines, and those who prefer to rely on their biological bodies. (Which somehow reminds me about the comparison between the modern humans and the modern chimpanzees...)
Genetics is a better way to compete than cybernetics. DNA is a nano-tech manufacture/regulation system and far more efficient energy-wise than any machine. The first treatment ever to have an adult DNA rewritten occurred just a couple weeks ago. Also, no need for replacement limbs or implants.
A genetically augmented brain would be far faster and more creative than a cybernetic one. Of course, it wouldn't be able to interface the way a cybernetic mod could, but it would be a lot more efficient and effective "offline." To put it another way, a cybermod could absorb knowledge that's already been discovered far faster, but a genemod could discover new knowledge far faster.
I like his vision and ambition and I do hope it succeeds.
Hi, you don't know me but if you're reading this and have some time to spare, it would be a great help to an existential question that I've been facing for a long time.
I think I see a "Great Filter" in front of us in the form of "Reward Death".
To understand what I mean by 'Reward Death', we will have to understand the relation between consciousness and reward. Now, for the sake of simplicity, we will divide the human experience into two parts.One deals with the mental capacity of performing actions and the other deals with reward( say reptilian brain. )
One can easily self reflect to realise that all his actions and thoughts are either to propel himself towards more reward positive future or away from some reward negative experience or possibility. This method of reward worked pretty good for all conscious beings that evolution has produced so far.
Now, by observing the exponential nature of the increment of adaptability ( or problem solving capacity ) of the living system, that we are a part of. One can easily entertain the possibility of so called “Singularity by ASI”.
Assuming you have solved the ‘Alignment Problem’, i.e. you can command it as per you desire.
As soon as you get your hands on the device, a very interesting thing will happen and the device will act as a ‘reward hack’.
As the basic nature of brain is to shoot for the most reward positive future and avoid any reward negative.
Your conscious feeling will have a very little disturbed trajectory towards more and more reward positive state.
The more reward positive you feel the more reward positive you want to feel. Eventually leading to reward induced coma like state that is ‘reward death’. This reward death will not be much different than overdosing of opium, cocaine, or any other reward hacking drug.
One might think now that he is aware of the fact. He will choose not to go in that direction just like one knows the happiness associated with drugs and yet choose not to take them.
But your body don’t feel a natural desire to consume drug thus providing you with a choice. This is not the same case with your natural desires for example SEX.
The more sexually aroused you are the more sexually aroused you want to feel and when you hit orgasm your brain breaks the cycle and you return to normal again
At the point of organism if you are provided with a choice not to break the cycle..
You will choose to prolong it a little more and then a little more and then a little more...
In the condition 'Reward death' your brain will stop the process of thinking and if somebody successfully force out of it you will I want to fall back in it with a urge worst then any addiction case we have faced so far .
Wow!
What an excellent program!
NPR quality! 😮
I remember people saying Tesla was going to fail because nobody would want a electric car... Now this isn't possible... lets wait 10 years.
Warning bells should be going off in everyone’s head right now....
Evreything we can imagin,can be create.
Someone help me out, please? So I've heard Elon Musk talk about this "mesh" being implanted in the brain. I saw another interview where he suggested it could be nanobots injected intravenously. Either way, the whole point is to interconnect with AI so we don't get left behind. He has stated that if we do not, best case scenario AI treats us like a house cat. Worst case scenario AI sees us as a virus to the earth and wipes us out. Alright. I know I'm rambling but here's my question: If we interconnect our brains with AI in order to "keep up" (for lack of a better term) what will keep AI from deciding to override our implants and enslaving us if it sees fit? This is a serious question and it may sound stupid to some, but computers are hacked all the time. What if AI decides to hack into our brains? Has anyone else thought of this?
Interesting to note that Musk is reading the best sci-fi. The Neural Lace is from Iain M. Banks' Culture series which describes a highly advanced galaxy-wide civilisation which is run by AIs...
Even the best sci-fi is not the same as science which is based on real observation and documentation of how nature works.
I won't have it done, but I would invest in that company.
Miguel sounds about as sharp as a marshmallow.
going with the second guy belief we will never move beyond how we are now and the future is very bleak. if not from AI then what about other future threats like moving off earth and into the solar system or Galaxy where we need the enhance intellect to do so.
Ah, this would be awesome, I hope to play a video game like this. Reminds me of Overlord, Log Horizon, and SAO! Hope this tech gets created soon so that the price can go down later lol.
Omg I would love to have this as a option, I have been studying mapping for 4 years and I just created a company to make memory Educational packages,I would volunteer in a second, very cool,I would love to be important enough to give Mr.Musk my input, this would be great for people who have difficulty in learning and are limited in how much a person could learn, I think it would be worth the risk, I would love to be on a team to help enhance memory,I would love to try this on my Dad he is 4th stage Alzheimer's patients,non verbal, he cannot communicate anymore, I have admired Mr. Musk for a lot of years
2:00 Are you serious? Therapeutic?