These guys are no Germans but Bavarians. A faction who can't decide if they are german or austrian. They also have an emperor who is called 'Markus Söder'. Odd people
@@pawelsawicki1750yes sure.. the russians give the Ukrainians T72B3 T90 and T80BVM and say. Hey can you tow it away for a video? But please bring them back again👉👈
@@KingSpittusFactus Of course I don't believe that any of those VERY, VERY FEW tanks/vehicles that actually might have been "towed away" ever go back to Russia. I think hey follow the same path that most weaponry and armament that was stuffed into Ukraine past years went through - they are sold/traded further: Middle East, Africa, South America, etc. etc.
@@pawelsawicki1750 So you're a real idiot. Why would Ukraine sell weapons that they can use when their country is fighting for it's life. HOW would they export these, given that the black sea is closed to military traffic? Stupid fool.
Yes, a farm tractor most likely would be able to pull a tank. The tractor's treads are made for gaining a lot of traction in soft soil, while the tank's are made for more solid surfaces ( note the thread patterns ) .
Its not a power demonstration, more a traction situation. Tractors generally need 1000 lbs or 450 kg per HP. This is just a small tractor in the Steiger range they go up to 700 hp and would top out at 70000 lbs or 32 000 kg. A heavier tank would do better in this instance. Fun for sure.
@@lpdirv its also important to note that tractors tend to be pulling large heavy loads that typically don't have their own power and more often than not split power off the tractor via the PTO. The stiger winning doesn't surprise me but put a valtra 700 or similarly sized tractor and it probably be a little more even.
@@user-sk2ih3os2j танку как бы не желательно иметь широкие гусеницы, всё таки ему приходится преодолевать грубо говоря не только злаковые поля но и минные
The biggest difference is that a Tractor is made to pull things, while a Tank, or on this case a Tank Destroyer is made to move itself through rough terrain. Just think about how most Tanks are designed for their own weight, no major excess weight.
Der Panzer hat noch seine Gummipuffer dran, die die Strassen schonen (und bei vereisten Strassen auch gerne mal dafür sorgen dass der quer kommt). Diese werden im Ernstfall entfernt oder sogar durch Schneegreifer ersetzt. Dann hat IMHO der Schlepper keine Chance mehr. The tank has its rubbers on which don't destroy the streets (also reason for serious problems if streets are covered with ice). Without this or even with special pads for snow things would be very different. Aber schön dass die Jungs das mal vorführer. Anyway: compliments to the crews :-)
Kummiketten - raupenfahrwerke gegen zwei Kettenlaufwerke würde ich sagen passt schon. Wie Georg Wagner sagte, haben die Ketten von Panzer beim Pull nicht weitergedreht.😂
Das würde nichts daran ändern, das der Tracktor mehr Auflagefläche hat und somit den besseren Grip.
8 років тому+18
It is like comparing a Trabant against Subaru. Tractor for ploughing fields with brutal torque against old school tank ;-) Winner was known from very beginning.
Came down to the tread contact area. On a street surface the outcome might have been reversed especially if the tank weighs more than that tractor. Not obvious if it does partly since tractors often come with forward counterweights.
The winner more likely depends on the weight of the two vehicles. Many equations for friction don't even use contact area. It's all weight and coefficent of friction. The pattern of the treads likely contribute to which tread is less likey to slide but the biggest contributor is generally weight.
@@ddegn That only holds when the surface stays intact. Such as on an asphalt surface as I described. The soil beneath the treads failed in sheer. That is why I say contact area, because a larger patch of ground can withstand a larger amount of horizontal force without sheering.
@@alexanderx33 I had a feeling friction was more complicated than just coefficent of friction and weight. The tractor treads look like they're intended to dig into the dirt a bit. The tank treads look like they've been modified not to dig in. I think you're right about the tank have a better chance on asphalt. Thanks for setting me straight.
@@ddegn Your right it is complicated, there are interparticle adhesive forces that are relevent to this kind of sheer but the confining pressure of the weight of the vehicle also adds to sheer strength capacity as well. Generally the weaker the soil is in shear the more contact area will have a stronger affect than weight. Confining pressure works best on interlocking substrates like crushed rock. Even that doesn't capture everything at play though.
@@alexanderx33 between you and @Duane Degn, you both have very good and solid arguments and the both of you has spoken the most sense, compared to all the other idiots in the comments section 😂👍🏻
тут без вариантов... у трактора гусеницы поцепче будут (прорезиненые) и пошире, а у танка узкие и не цепкие... даже при меньшем весе с такими гусеницами намного больше шансов
+Willhelm Meyer wenn man auf den case ne 105mm gezogene glattrohr kanone draufschraubt...ne lieber nicht, sonst gibts unter den bauern noch verletzte...
Liebe Alexandria, das ist in Oberbayern der "Oberbayrische Dialekt" 😃 👍 Das ist da, wo die großen Kartoffeln wachsen und wo das Bier aus 1-Liter Eimern getrunken wird 🍺😂🤗💞
@@markmark2080 You are absolutely right, but my friend always say whenever I mention the word “Fun” ; { Fun is much better with a Gun }… Until this moment I still don’t know exactly what he means ?! and I never asked him why either.
Bread feeds the sword, and the sword protects the bread. In other words, if the farmers don’t do their job well, the military won’t be able to do their job very well either. No one wants to fight on an empty stomach.
Those were made in WW2, they were all put in a building. Some country bombarded that building, now there arent any left and they never were in a real battle situation
@@Online-Trading- Люди да, но участники нет. В принципе можно рассчитать сидя на диване, зная (по степени важности) вес , площадь сцепления, мощность(не л. с.). Передаточные числа и умение водителя тут на четвёртом и пятом месте.
ich auch, habe den jaguar im jahr 2000 selber gefahren. das macht schon mächtig bock. ist mit 500 ps zwar einer der kleineren, was dem spaßfaktor aber keinen abbruch tut. was gäbe ich dafür, noch mal mit dem jaguar zu cruisen :(
Nice to see you Germans know how to have a good time too. I love this stuff
wow the last time we had a good time the americans came.... ^.^
@@ericee-gn1jj omg that almost made me fall out of my chair lolol
These guys are no Germans but Bavarians. A faction who can't decide if they are german or austrian. They also have an emperor who is called 'Markus Söder'. Odd people
@@HankScorpioXX Bayerisches Großreich
@@HankScorpioXX hahahaha
Ganz eigenes Völkchen
the rope, the strongest of them all
Nowadays you see a lot of tanks pulled by traktors ....
Just and only in propaganda videos
@@pawelsawicki1750yes sure.. the russians give the Ukrainians T72B3 T90 and T80BVM and say. Hey can you tow it away for a video? But please bring them back again👉👈
@@KingSpittusFactus Of course I don't believe that any of those VERY, VERY FEW tanks/vehicles that actually might have been "towed away" ever go back to Russia. I think hey follow the same path that most weaponry and armament that was stuffed into Ukraine past years went through - they are sold/traded further: Middle East, Africa, South America, etc. etc.
@@pawelsawicki1750 So you're a real idiot. Why would Ukraine sell weapons that they can use when their country is fighting for it's life.
HOW would they export these, given that the black sea is closed to military traffic?
Stupid fool.
"Modern machinery in agriculture is truly an efficient way to enhance productivity and reduce labor. I really enjoy watching your videos!"
I really want to see this done with a M88A1. I drove those for many years in the Army. I loved it every moment.
I saw photos recently of a Centurion recovery tank versus a D7 in Vietnam. The Dozer won easily
In war?
wait, that's not the M88? looks like it to me.
@@MrDhalli6500 You have the vision of a waffle iron.
One for killin', one for tillin'.
🤣🤣
@@truth-Hurts375 you nailed it right there.... turn your swords into ploughshares chilluns!🤣🤣🤣
I like that
Здорово
Yes, a farm tractor most likely would be able to pull a tank. The tractor's treads are made for gaining a lot of traction in soft soil, while the tank's are made for more solid surfaces ( note the thread patterns ) .
Its not a power demonstration, more a traction situation. Tractors generally need 1000 lbs or 450 kg per HP. This is just a small tractor in the Steiger range they go up to 700 hp and would top out at 70000 lbs or 32 000 kg.
A heavier tank would do better in this instance. Fun for sure.
@@zetster1144 Being a geek is better than being a midwit.
@@lpdirv its also important to note that tractors tend to be pulling large heavy loads that typically don't have their own power and more often than not split power off the tractor via the PTO. The stiger winning doesn't surprise me but put a valtra 700 or similarly sized tractor and it probably be a little more even.
The tractor was even heavier than the tank here.
The tractor has so much track surface area compared to the tank that power doesn't really matter here.
Пусть так будет всегда - что б тракторы были сильнее танков!
tractors are tanks
Yes
Сельхозтехника победила технику разрушения! Браво!
Алессупахгуууд!
Йа йа
Ты, ты!
Tractor wins. Panzer shoots tractor.
This "tank" has no canon.
TOW
MASSTERCAM HOT actually
Stronk Vodka both actually, it depends if this was a Jaguar 1 or a Jaguar 2. Front view would be nice from this one in the video to be sure.
Zo‘r
Танк не должен пахать с огромным тяговым усилием, а трактор не рассчитан что бы быстро уносить ноги с чужого поля
Гитлер капут)))
зацеп тоже должен быть на одном уровне ..
@@user-sk2ih3os2j танку как бы не желательно иметь широкие гусеницы, всё таки ему приходится преодолевать грубо говоря не только злаковые поля но и минные
Genau. Aber, es ist nur eine Show. Так, развлекуха....
У танка гусянки на резиновом ходу для езды по дорогам.
Where did you get your figures from? The Jagdpanzer IV Maybach v12 only has 300PS (296hp).
The biggest difference is that a Tractor is made to pull things, while a Tank, or on this case a Tank Destroyer is made to move itself through rough terrain.
Just think about how most Tanks are designed for their own weight, no major excess weight.
They call ist Bergepanzer for a reason.
@@TheMorredits a Jaguar not a Bergepanzer
That tractor on the left is such a tank!
It is a tank
😀👍👋 buenísimo saludos gracias
Tanks for the neat video.
Ist ja recht viel passiert. Glaube es waren fast 53 cm hin und her. Respekt, interessantes Video.
Du musst dringend zum Augenarzt
Jaguar hunting tank: 22,5 tons - 500 HP vs CASE STX440: 23,2 tons - 440 HP
Thx
Thats one up for the ‘push me pull you Tractor’!
POWER Extrem 💪
Der Panzer hat noch seine Gummipuffer dran, die die Strassen schonen (und bei vereisten Strassen auch gerne mal dafür sorgen dass der quer kommt). Diese werden im Ernstfall entfernt oder sogar durch Schneegreifer ersetzt. Dann hat IMHO der Schlepper keine Chance mehr. The tank has its rubbers on which don't destroy the streets (also reason for serious problems if streets are covered with ice). Without this or even with special pads for snow things would be very different. Aber schön dass die Jungs das mal vorführer. Anyway: compliments to the crews :-)
Hat der Panzer nicht einfach zu wenig Kraft? Oder warum "drehen" sich seine Ketten nicht wenn er vom Case weggezogen wird?
Kummiketten - raupenfahrwerke gegen zwei Kettenlaufwerke würde ich sagen passt schon. Wie Georg Wagner sagte, haben die Ketten von Panzer beim Pull nicht weitergedreht.😂
Ja sieht mir aus als wenn er den Panzer abgewürgt hätte.
Das würde nichts daran ändern, das der Tracktor mehr Auflagefläche hat und somit den besseren Grip.
It is like comparing a Trabant against Subaru.
Tractor for ploughing fields with brutal torque against old school tank ;-) Winner was known from very beginning.
Love Subaru
Redemption for the harper Adams video!
I used to operate case all the time 🤘
Когда трактор тащил, боевая машина почему-то не сопротивлялась, гусеницы не крутились.
Zablokowała je siła traktora. Czołg waży 30 ton, dlatego się nie obracały.
Came down to the tread contact area. On a street surface the outcome might have been reversed especially if the tank weighs more than that tractor. Not obvious if it does partly since tractors often come with forward counterweights.
The winner more likely depends on the weight of the two vehicles.
Many equations for friction don't even use contact area. It's all weight and coefficent of friction. The pattern of the treads likely contribute to which tread is less likey to slide but the biggest contributor is generally weight.
@@ddegn That only holds when the surface stays intact. Such as on an asphalt surface as I described. The soil beneath the treads failed in sheer. That is why I say contact area, because a larger patch of ground can withstand a larger amount of horizontal force without sheering.
@@alexanderx33 I had a feeling friction was more complicated than just coefficent of friction and weight.
The tractor treads look like they're intended to dig into the dirt a bit.
The tank treads look like they've been modified not to dig in. I think you're right about the tank have a better chance on asphalt.
Thanks for setting me straight.
@@ddegn Your right it is complicated, there are interparticle adhesive forces that are relevent to this kind of sheer but the confining pressure of the weight of the vehicle also adds to sheer strength capacity as well. Generally the weaker the soil is in shear the more contact area will have a stronger affect than weight. Confining pressure works best on interlocking substrates like crushed rock. Even that doesn't capture everything at play though.
@@alexanderx33 between you and @Duane Degn, you both have very good and solid arguments and the both of you has spoken the most sense, compared to all the other idiots in the comments section 😂👍🏻
So do you have footage of them doing tug-of-war?
Такого не может быть!Военная техника никогда не уступит гражданской!
A jednak ;)
Плащадь соприкосновения гусениц у трактора больше нежели у бтр.
Это не единственный фактор. И не основной)
И это не бтр)))
好厉害的钢索
Трудиться, уважать, помогать друг другу нужно, а не воевать
Excellent
тут без вариантов... у трактора гусеницы поцепче будут (прорезиненые) и пошире, а у танка узкие и не цепкие... даже при меньшем весе с такими гусеницами намного больше шансов
Еще и полный привод на тракторе решает, вон как яг пантеру задирает при усилии, что еще сильнее снижает цепкость и без того узких гусеничных лент.
Skip to 1:00 to see the pull
This is a 440 hp version of the tractor but there is a 620 hp aswell
whats the maximum the quadtrac can pull
Dafür hat der CASE Steiger einen viel geringeren Kampfwert als der Jaguar Panzer. :-)
Willhelm Meyer der Case ist auch nicht zum Kämpfen gedacht XD
LPDoOn Das wollte ich damit ausdrücken. Beide Geräte sind für unterschiedliche Arbeiten ausgelegt, ein Kräftevergleich ist daher unzweckmäßig.
+Willhelm Meyer wenn man auf den case ne 105mm gezogene glattrohr kanone draufschraubt...ne lieber nicht, sonst gibts unter den bauern noch verletzte...
Respekt auch an das Seil! 😂
Deutsch fernseher
Zupa zalupa
@@kemaleraslan4254 hasch en problem?
Macht das mit russischen Panzern und versenkt sie im nächsten Moor
@@siegfriedplachy8539 Nah, ebay Motor
what is tank ?
That's the most german thing i ever watched.
Welche Sprache ist das?
Wer das nicht versteht braucht ins Allgäu, nach Schwaben oder Sachsen oder in die Eifel nicht reisen.
@@fendtbluebird4701 Wer das nicht versteht hat einen Migrationshintergrund
Liebe Alexandria, das ist in Oberbayern der "Oberbayrische Dialekt" 😃 👍
Das ist da, wo die großen Kartoffeln wachsen und wo das Bier aus 1-Liter Eimern getrunken wird 🍺😂🤗💞
Die Physik kann nicht getäuscht werden, alles ist einfach.
I'm more impressed with the cable holding them together. It is stronger than my marriage...
Stronger why it is ''''élastic'''' like a spring!!!!...
Not much of a contest. It's all about traction. They both have enough weight and power so whoever has the best treads wins. Change tracks = win pull.
This was totally gay. Shoulda just floored it,both ends, my burnt out toyota hilux coulda smashed this like a prom queen on graduation night. .
Неудивительно, площадь гусениц трактора больше, отличный грунтозацеп.
Ты прав
Нашли кого с кем сравнивать
и танк на резиновых башмаках - зацепа на грунте нет почти ))
Плюс вес!! Панзер легче в 2 раза сравнили бы с т80
@@Artem-69 у танка вообще зацепа за грунт нет и тонет в нем как нож в масле
Ich hätte nicht gedacht, dass der Traktor gewinnen würde!
Ja moin. War für den Case eigentlich kein Problem.
Na ja, der Jagdpanzer darf nicht alle Fähigkeiten einsetzen...
Ciągnik waży ok 22 ton a ten czołg ile? 15?
Case IH STX - the best tractors ever!
Siema mart8n
Я один ждал черный дым из труб?
Это не по европейски...
Полная амараканская хуйня
@@ankamanka9867 Ничего, что "амаракансы", говорят по немецки?
@@user-nikomunichegoneskagu да не, ничога, амараканцы по немецки, а американцы на английском 😂😂😂😂!!!!! Отдыхай филолох...
это не к-700
С уровнителями асфальта катками было бы интересней. )
Power!!!
Case like a boss xD
Now take them road tracks off and get the proper ones on that tank.
Amazing 💪
Will like to see Leopard 2A6.
It’s not rocket science, the heaviest with same type of tracks always win
That M-88 is 60 tons, looks like he just set the brakes .
euhhh you need some power also ?
@@markmark2080 You are absolutely right, but my friend always say whenever I mention the word “Fun” ; { Fun is much better with a Gun }… Until this moment I still don’t know exactly what he means ?! and I never asked him why either.
МИР СИЛЬНЕЕ ВОЙНЫ!
ПЕРЕКУЁМ МЕЧИ НА ОРАЛА!
Чтоб не орал что ли?!
У трактора тяговое усилие минимум на треть больше, а то и масса тоже больше.
Spannend. Auch wenn ich kein Wort verstanden habe. Was für eine Sprache ist das?
SUPAH! SUPAH!
Сколько вес танка и трактора?
Я думаю перетягивает более тяжелый, гусеницы провернуть у всех сил хватит, а вот сцепного веса не хватает.
На танке ещё гусли закрыты
Не сколько вес, а какой вес.
@@salavatsadnt2342 гусли - музыкальный инструмент.
@@gottlicherwind942 Ну и какой же вес у танка и трактора из видео?
@@user-ow4zh3bt5r откуда мне знать какой вес? Знаю точно, что эта танкетка не проектировалась как тягач, у танкетки другое предназначение.
tank bro, do you even lift?
All farm equipment manufacturers will soon have similar set ups. (4 tracks & articulate)
Тащить волоком? И это победа?
Это просто реклама трактора.
Он даже не сопротивлялся.
Глупость полная.
Я работаю на таком тракторе, только 435. И поверь дури в нем придостаточно.
Farming is more mighty than military! Bread is mightier than sword!
Bread feeds the sword, and the sword protects the bread. In other words, if the farmers don’t do their job well, the military won’t be able to do their job very well either. No one wants to fight on an empty stomach.
👍
Wooos, i vorstäh keen Wort. Gibs das Video auch in Deutsch ?
So wie sich deine Rechtschreibung liest glaub ich dir das aufs Wort...
I couldn't agree more with what he said!!
Накладки для асфальта забыли снять с гусениц.Естественно будет скользить.
M1 Abrams: are you challenging me?
Трактор без брони но видимо догружен достаточно дабы сцепку агрегатов по полю тянуть 🤔
Now we mount the gun on the tractor and plow with the tank?
The recovery vehicle wasn't even pulling, it let the tractor pull it.
The panzer was not a recovery vehicle, it was a Raketenjagdpanzer. Which was a missile armed tank hunter.
@@TheSybermedic Glad you think so, then why does it have the A-frame for lift parts like the engine covers on it?
@@Chuck59ish just search for Jaguar tank and you‘ll see. The Bundeswehr only uses recovery tanks based on Leopard, no Raketenjagdpanzer.
connector cable at wrong height...not level.
M
M
Yes but in this case the tank have the advantage. ..
Cummins Power on that tractor.
I like it
Exactly
wow mit straßenketten.... was ein vergleich
ud wo wahr das, in welchen Dorf?
Notzing
Case ih 620 vs köningstiger :-)
rip tiger 2 transmission
This makes no sense! Neither Vehicle was trying at the same time!!
The tank also appears to have rubber-faced tracks, for use on paved roads, not the usual metal cleats that tanks use off-road.
@@pulaski1 Wouldn't matter, the tank doesn't have a prayer. It's just a spectacle for the crowd.
I hate to say this, but they should really be using armoured versions of that tractor for tank recovery after watching this!
😍😍😍😍
try it with maus :P
ratte! :)
Those were made in WW2, they were all put in a building. Some country bombarded that building, now there arent any left and they never were in a real battle situation
pipo5141 yes and the case quatrac 600
They -have- had a working Maus. It was put together by the russians after the war, using the hull of a V1 and turret of the V2 prototype.
Robert Jensen Never knew that! Gotta look it up
Дак что-бы чесно возьмите танк Maus или E 100
@@MouseVinograndaya о феменистки тут как тут уже, повелазили умные!
Трактора это в первую очередь тяговые аппараты, а военная техника предназначена для другого.
Ich glaub der Ansager guckt jeden abend auf seinen Schwanz und sagt genau diesen Text den er da redet😂😂😂😂
now i wana be a farmer and have some fun ;)
That orange tractor has way much more area of traction than the tank, so no wonder why it was able to kinda drag it away
+Sommer Phipps no it's orange 😤
+VenDErxxVb V case is red
It's a red Case tractor... they are red..
Секс
Парн
The tank has rubbers over the threads, for road purposes
Which engine is most powerful?
дык у Кейса на порядок более цепкая гусень
Плюс ко всему у вояк гусянка стоит дорожная - узкая, с резиновыми накладками и без грунтозацепов.
@@Losinkyilos Про то и речь - практически слики.
Витязь нужно туда.
+ двигатель как весь танчик
@@rarecase3666 какой танк?. где на видео танк?.🤔
Кто ждал, что порвется трос и снесёт комунить бошку)) 😂
Ахахахаааааа 👏👏👍
слишком короткий . так что порвать его проблематично , а если бы и порвался то что бы кого то достал вероятности 0 .
@@user-my5qe4iq7d Так то да, но мысли были)
Asi mismo es👍🔥😎
STX 440😀!!! SUPERRR..🤗❤❤❤!!!
I wanna give some applause to whatever they used between them. The chain or whatever space material it is.
It's just a cable. That tank and tractor really aren't that much weight. A 2 inch cable won't break till at least 300k lbs.
вы бы ещё танк на лыжи поставили - протектор сравни !!!
Не только протектор. Площадь сцепления четырёх гусениц и по длине и по ширине больше минимум на треть. Ну а про массу и мощность мы не знаем.
люди пришли посмотреть шоу и по сути похеру кто кого перетащит...
@@Online-Trading- Люди да, но участники нет. В принципе можно рассчитать сидя на диване, зная (по степени важности) вес , площадь сцепления, мощность(не л. с.). Передаточные числа и умение водителя тут на четвёртом и пятом месте.
@@user-zw5jv9jc8s видать это шоу, не для россиян)) Окей забудь
@@user-zw5jv9jc8s яга(ПТ) - 27,5т но без орудия около 25 тонн, наверное, трактор (CASE Steiger STX 440) -18 тонн без навесного оборудования.
Tanks are made to move only themselves around, tractors are made for pulling other things as well as themselves. Tank never stood a chance
ich auch, habe den jaguar im jahr 2000 selber gefahren. das macht schon mächtig bock. ist mit 500 ps zwar einer der kleineren, was dem spaßfaktor aber keinen abbruch tut. was gäbe ich dafür, noch mal mit dem jaguar zu cruisen :(
1:25. И тут без Дзюбы не обошлось ! Канц-канц-канц))
Трос хороший.
Масса+Площадь контакта с грунтом=WIN
I'd be curious to know which material the bar/cable in the middle is made of... 😱😄
It would be the same kind of chain that boats use, heavy hardened steel
Elastic steel cable/wire.....
у танка гусеницы не агрессивные стоят а походные не те что для боевых целей так что не чистая победа
Я тоже на это обратил внимание !)
я ездил на подобной технике потому и понимаю что почем на нормальных гусянках танк бы уделал этого сельхозника
Думаю еслы бы танк ещё и дуло развернул... Вот это поворот)
@@Roma4e ну и пару снарядов и все в принципе всех на этом соревновании победил )))