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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
- Let's talk about Andrew Berkshire's recent post regarding Zack Hyman, which has, to put it lightly, caused some serious controversy. All that discussed and more on today's NHL hockey video
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Article on Hyman's father: www.thestar.com/sports/hockey... - Спорт
Rich or not, McDavid or not. 50 goals are 50 goals.
Exactly. Maroon didn't score 50. Neither did Kassian, Puljarvi, or ANY of Mcdavid's other line mates. Draisaitl scored 50 only playing on McDavid's wing part time and on the PP. Only Hyman to date has scored 50 being exclusive to 97's wing.
@@LARGO125 Puljujärvi spell check.
@@LARGO125 ty rattie
"If wanna score goals, you gotta shoot the biscuit"
-Bobby Hull
Imagine being one of the hardest working players in the NHL and people downplay you because your parents had money. Tf?
It's not like Berkshire is standing up for the underprivileged. It's just grievance and resentment for its own sake.
That's the thing. I want to see where Berkshire is coming from,or trying to,just for context, before I pass my own judgement
Life is unfair - we get it. But someone who grew up with that much wealth and privilege could have just as easily been a lazy bum who just waited for everything to be handed to him and never made anything of himself.
exactly. you can’t buy skill, talent,and dedication
I would say it's even easier and more likely to become a lazy bum.
Zach Hyman's brother, Spencer Hyman, did not make the NHL despite all the money his parents apparently had. You can provide your son with all the money in the world to one day succeed in the NHL. But if he's still trash then he won't make it into the big leagues. The same thing goes for every other major sports leagues.
This goes for wealth in general, dispelling the big-picture argument he is making. Many a wealthy family has been ruined by the bad and wasteful financial decisions of their children. In 2 generations, 75% of wealthy families lose all their money, for exactly that reason. What this guy will never be able to admit is that making good decisions is a better path to success (especially in the long term) than simply being born rich. It just doesn't quite fit with his worldview is the only problem.
His brother played four seasons in the OJHL and is now an assistant coach with them. Even when playing doesn't work out, the privilege is still paying off.
@@patrickhall6627 the number 1 determinant of wealth or income is not hard work, or good ideas, or education. It is a matter of how wealthy your parents are. All the good decisions in the world will never come close to the advantages of having wealthy parents.
It is why poor people usually stay poor, middle class usually stay middle class, and the wealthy wait on inheritances and ride nepotism into the sunset.
@@bjbjbjbjbjb I'm well aware of this. That is describing an INDIVIDUAL, while I am talking about GENERATIONS. As it turns out, many things can be true at once.
Having wealth and keeping it are two very different things, and history is littered with people squandering it.
@@patrickhall6627 you are describing individuals and I'm describing generations and masses. There are examples of squandered wealth, absolutely. But the general trajectory of wealth is it follows familial lines.
It’s just engagement farming, but it’s still absolutely hilarious
In this case I don’t think it’s engagement farming. I think he’s actually THIS dense.
No, Berkshire is legitimately that delusional.
There's no way this is not farming. Hyman is such a hard working player.
Was Hyman a bit spoiled, yea obviously. But he still had to work for it, still had to dedicate himself to game. After juniors it’s completely out of his control and he still made it to the NHL.
100% you can get given everything but once you get to the big leagues that's when cracks start to show.
If he was just some spoiled rich kid we would all know...because he would be bad at hockey
Ok saying ”a bit” is too far brother 😭😭😭😭
A bit spoiled?
Yeah, like sure hockey is kind of a "gear sport" or whatever. But Hyman is a hard working player that deserves this success because he has been this hard working gritty player for so long. Love the guy.
A bit is crazy
The only response needed is the clip from The Big Lebowski. “You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole.” Give me all that stuff and sure I would be successful, but I wouldn’t be scoring 51 goals even with McDavid setting me up. Yeah Hyman has been given all the advantages for sure, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t worked his ass off as well and his accomplishment should be celebrated. Not a bad point to make if you’re trying to push for more accessibility into the sport, but terrible timing and a terrible way to make it. Instead of actually causing potentially good discourse you just come off as a dick trying to bring him down when the guy just accomplished one of the hardest feats in hockey.
You nailed it.
I mean, if I was born rich nobody would ever hear from me, lol, I'd be off relaxing living an easy life somewhere. But Hyman still had the drive to reach the top in a very competitive field, I don't understand seeing that as anything but commendable.
Why the fuck am I not a journalist
Because you have a conscience. To be a journalist these days means intentionally writing misleading and aggravating stories in order to farm engagement and therefore ad revenue. This guy knew exactly what he was doing.
I know why I'm not a journalist - I don't want to end up getting roasted by Tortorella at one point in my career.
He is a lgbt 🏳️🌈
Because you have a brain and a bigger purpose?
@@gerrylee1687shocked im sure😂
did zach hymans parents also pay the goalies so he could score 50 😂
Berkshire going on all holier than thou about Hyman and the media is just ridiculous, coming from a guy who can't hold a job in hockey media and has to resort to writing betting articles to get by.
He's also a children's book author.
I read his Wikipedia lol and learned that
His dad bought all the publishing companies in the GTA!! Not legit!!!
My problem with his take was wtf does his rich upbringing have to do with him hitting his prime at 31. he absolutely got in the league primarily because his rich dad ensured his roster spot his whole pre-nhl career. But once in the NHL, all of the guys have access to the best training, food, doctors, etc. So him doing what he did at 31 absolutely is due to hard work. Plenty of guys have played next to Matthews and McDavid and couldnt deliver. So that argument is dumb too.
Nah. McDavid turned kane into a decent player, and everyone was literally questioning whether he’d even be an nhl player for much longer until he got to Edmonton.
Why doesn’t anyone focus on how much money Stuart Hyman dumped into hockey in general? That was to the benefit of way more people than just Zach.
Stuart must be one helluva hockey fan. Gotta love that.
For real. They say he "bought a team" or "bought a league" so his son could play... Doesn't that mean that he created another 20 or even a couple hundred other spots for all the other kids who would need to be on the team or in the league? How is that any kind of negative?
Because nobody cares.
@@dtmrea247 He probably threw really great birthday parties too, like the terrible jerk he is, right? lol, yeah, I'm with you on this. Sounds like he funded summer camp for the whole neighborhood.
Good point. Ask the Subban family.
Taking credits away from Hyman just because he is from a rich family is a really rough take. Man the dude just scored fifty !!
Tbh most people seem to develop this monkey behaviour. “He worked hard for something and is rewarded, not fair! I am entitled too for no reason!” Same reason why rich people are just blindly hated on because of the peasant monkey mind of people thinking they deserve things for existing.
@@poejavelski148 I largely agree with your sentiment. However, I can attest that many youth hockey players undeservedly make teams because of their fathers connections. The most apparent case of nepotism being a kid who played A for only three years before making the premier team in our city. His father was a well known NHL forward and the coach was his linemate.
@@onyx9316 Nepotism and using daddys connections is 100% a thing that happens everywhere, for sure. I agree with your comment.
It is annoying, but at the end of the day, you still gotta just do your best with what you were given. Even though Hyman and other players have advantages from the jump, they are still the ones getting up early to go practice, then go train, eat right, travel (which is mentally exhausting), etc. Not saying an athlete is the most difficult job in the world, but most people who moan and complain are not the types to put in effort to achieve success.
He is arguably one of the most hard working forwards. He is not lazy and he never was. He wasn't in Toronto and he isn't in Edmonton.
@@onyx9316 Honestly if people make the team because of their dad and their money that is bad. But idk if I would put Hyman in that category. Sure maybe his dad helped him early on or whatever but he is one of the most hardworking players every night.
Bro Datsyuk trained with rusty ass weighted plates taped to a shitty stick and was drafted late in the NHL just to produce magic. Hard work works.
yea 2 decades ago LOLOL
Pastrnak grew up with not a lot of money to tho right?
Not always.
Well my kid would love to play hockey but I can't even afford to get him into junior hockey team as its too expensive.
@@unclepauly3205back when things were a lot less expensive lol
Many have played with Connor McDavid, two have managed to score 50 in a season.
how is it Hymans fault that he was born with a rich family???
It’s just try in to paint an “us vs them” argument to win rapport with the working class masses. Money or no, the guy has talent and worked his ass off to get to that position. Parents got him through a series of doors, and maybe still bankrolls back channel deals to pave ramps, but it’s up to him to stick it once he’s given a shot. The argument would have more merit if he capped out at like a 15-25 goal ceiling despite playing with the best, but he keeps finding ways to keep the pace up.
This shit is just like cheap pandering promos wrestlers cut to win over a crowd quickly, minus the charisma.
I met Zach Hyman in the 2019-2020 season. He’s a super chill guy and I’m really happy he’s finally producing insanely well and this guy trying to overshadow the achievement is just stupid. Even with the financial support he could’ve been ass 🤷♂️
Yeah, Hyman is like Jack Quaid, sure their parents gave em a step up, but they're STILL there cause they've done well with their opportunities. Neither of them are Dakota Johnson.
He may have come from a white collar family, but he is the epitome of the traditional blue collar work effort.
You can have all the resources at your disposal but if you don't put the work in, you won't succeed. Guy just sounds jealous and childish honestly.
Not many think of how a superstar benefits from certain players. McDavid has a historical single season assist total in big part due to Hyman
That Twitter video is one of the most rage-baiting L-takes I've ever seen.
Who on earth does this guy think he is???
He is a lgbt person that’s why
Literally never heard of him, he's never played hockey at a high level, and on his twitter he has a bunch of dickhead takes. He makes things political for no reason.
A revolutionary maybe? IDK exactly what his target audiences is...
Karl Marx
He is definitely a lgbt guy
People really hate people being up lifting
Buds just salty he never made it outta peewees
Haters will hate keep moving forward
Zach Hyman may have had lots of doors opened for him but he ain’t sticking around if he could not put the puck in the net.
Nah, this is a generational level of hating on one person for reaching an incredible milestone 😂
Hockey is a rich man's sport but Hyman has earned what he has accomplished. The guy is a beast and a workhorse who gets better year after year.
Even with the money, it still takes an insane amount of efforts to reach the NHL. Sound like that guy is jealous.
Sounds like a salty flames fan
The way I look at it is Hyman isn't scoring because he's on McDavid's line. He's on McDavid's line because he's scoring. Plenty of players have gotten the chance to wing McDavid many of whom did not produce at an acceptable rate. If Zach Hyman wasn't deserving of the spot then he wouldn't be in it. You don't get a 50 goal season in the NHL, a feat only 100 players have ever achieved, without excelling at the game. Their is no doubt that McDavid is a legendary playmaker and that Hyman benefits from playing with him but that is a privilege he earned on the merits of his play.
money didn't buy him 50 goals
This guy's parents could have been billionaires who spared no expenses and he's still not scoring a single goal in the NHL
This dude bought a AAA team for his kid to play on lol
Imagine not spending what you can afford to help your kid achieve their goals.
Imagine not having the means to help your kid achieve their goals.
I don't have to imagine, Lawrence Stroll I am not.
@@patron40silverimagine not having kids at all to prevent that, crazy am I right
Did Zacks Dad get his money illegally? No he sid not and how he chooses to spend it is his business . You spent a 1000 on your U -7s gear ? Ok well if you can afford it great no worries, but if it puts you in a bad way financially, bad move . There is almost 0 %chance you will ever get any return on that investment in terma of a future in Hockey for your kid. You do it , like i did , because your kid is passionate about it. If you are doing it for them making it to the NHL a college fund will pay far greater dividends. Zack Scored the goals , he accomplished his dreams , how he got there is only the concern of folks bitter that they were not good enough, no conspiracy,just no talent
My take on this; Of the points you covered in this from that guy (I didn't see his actual full video), I agree that he has gotten quite lucky to be next to 2 of the greatest players of this generation, especially McDavid this year, which obviously everyone knows if he wasn't playing with McD he would probably have about 50-70% of his current goal total. As far as the rich parents thing, that is news to me for what you said about his father, and hockey absolutely takes a really fortunate childhood to even begin to play it in this first place and have parent(s) or people around you that can and are willing to pay for it, also true.. But Hyman is a GRINDER. Watching him for years on the Leafs, he was night in and night out the only player consistently battling like every game mattered to him. Aggressive forechecks, good backchecking, PK, blocking shots, all the dirty work to keep himself valuable. We have seen time and time again players get put next time Marner and Matthews and what happens? They don't perform or add anything to the line and get demoted 1-3 games later. Hyman flat out grinded to get there, grinded to stay there, and grinded to become of enough value to then get an offer when he became a FA and was fortunate enough to get next to McD. But even if he went to another team, he was always scoring 30+ this season in my opinion. Absolute work horse.
Also, as someone who never got to play organized hockey growing up as I grew up with a single mother of 4 with no other family in sight helping, I agree and understand that hockey is too expensive and unfortunately a lot of kids/players who could have a real chance at becoming great players, stars, even generational talents, never even get the chance to begin to play and what not. But given Hymans situation, which obviously not like he chose to have rich parents who would do such things to support him chasing his dreams to begin with, but that makes it really respectable, maybe even MORE respectable from the fact that it would be so much easier knowing that no matter what, whether you make it to the OHL, NHL, AHL, or even if he never made it out of house league, that he would be set for life anyways due to generational wealth he was born into.. but put in 10x more work then other players that say they want to be in the NHL one day or other pro sports or other dreams they have, and he still kept grinding at it as if he needed to make it to pay his rent. Some people get blessed with opportunities, but not everyone works hard to take advantage of them.
That Oilers Game vs WPG was so entertaining!
If they scored on that last high stick I would have died
@@Vektroxbrutal call
@@Vektrox same
Almost every kid that makes the NHL comes from money and "every possible opportunity" in the form of camps, lessons, travel, etc. Sure, not every kid has their parent buy teams and stuff but Andrew is being a complete douche about this
There’s no way the dude was actually serious was he?
I'm sick of seeing people saying Hyman is only good because he has played with Mathews and McDavid. I can't count the number of players that have been tested with those two and failed on the top line.
A nuanced take that I live very much. I agree with what you said, what the guy said doesn't really apply to Hyman (but does to some degree) but it would indeed be disingenuous to say hockey as absolutely no barrier of entry for some people.
and literally nobody has ever said that. it's a cringe strawman virtue signal
“Barrier to entry” is just another way of saying it isn’t free. That applies to pretty much everything. College, career, relationships, etc. Sometimes those barriers are monetary, sometimes they are not, often they are a mix of things. Hockey isn’t unique in this area (gymnastics? Tennis? Golf?). There are lots of kids playing house league with second hand equipment and their parents aren’t rich, at all. If someone wants to get more serious than that, the truly determined find a way.
He has scored a quarter of all his goals in his career this year. Seems like he might truly be a hard worker.
Man, I must've missed all those seasons where every single player ever has scored 50 goals when playing on McDavid's line. Like, yeah, I think he's the best player in the league, but I also think he's thankful to be playing with someone with a real nose for the net.
I mean he’s not arguing that it isn’t a great accomplishment, he’s arguing against a certain narrative in media that he has seen, and that he simply isn’t too excited/is indifferent about another guy who was given the world succeeding
I agree. I do however think that even if you are set up by your parents for success, it still takes quite a bit of work ethic and dedication to make it big in sports
And that’s why he’s getting all the hate, what he said is 10x more of a brain dead take then saying it’s not a great accomplishment.
Of course, has anyone seen that narrative with Hyman? I sure haven't. The narrative has more been that playing with McDavid has sure helped his numbers.
He says - he’s not arguing that it isn’t a great achievement but the subtext sure points to sour grapes. It’s the old Gretz argument “I’m not saying he wasn’t great but he did play in the day when goalies would throw the puck in the net themselves the d was so bad. “ just shitty disingenuous crap.
I really don’t think that being rich has anything to do with talent. Like yeah it can get you opportunities, but if you’re not good than you’re just not good
hyman will just keep winning. yall can be salty all yall want, doesnt change that hes doing better than everyone was expecting. rich or poor, hyman is good at what he does and hes a total sweetheart on and off ice who works insanely hard, hes ALWAYS putting in the effort no matter what the state of the game is - being rich doesnt magically make u a good player, it just gives u more opportunities. zach hyman is a player who is a gem to have , and to basically write all of his efforts off just by saying "oh but money!!!" is so fucking disrespectful to the game as a whole. what if he WASNT rich, what then? what if he played just as good while being poor , does that now mean he deserves his success? its so hypocritical to bring up money because money just doesnt make you good - there are so many people out there who use money to get in every door, but they still suck.
Another corny white boy saying “y’all” lol
he's not entirely wrong, but it's not a good message - name one generational talent who's parents weren't either loaded or taking out mortgages to get there kids more ice time. It's not a positive message or a good way to think - but hockey does have a pay to play problem. You can't make up for ice-time, it's just the reality. Not taking away from Hyman either, he had to commit to that ice-time, no matter how available, to get where he is. Those generational talents, did too.
Wow- really terrible - a father speeding time and resources to help his son succeed…
Sure he’s lucky. Not the first or the last. Chris Kunitz never should’ve been on Team Canada or had the career he had, but being linemates with Sid made it happen. Regardless, luck alone doesn’t do it. You still have to be good as well.
Hockey is one of if not the only major sport we have in America where you really do need money to play. It's not cheap, baseball, basketball and even football are MUCH more accessible than Hockey. Most schools have teams for the first three but not nearly as many schools are rocking their own hockey teams, so a lot of the time you're playing for a separate league or a "county" team or something and there is NO funding outside the parents for the bulk of those leagues. Basically if you don't have money you're probably not playing hockey at any level that matters. It was $2000/season when i looked into it for my then 9 yo. We just didn't have $2000 for a youth sport when there's a mortgage and ever increasing grocery/utility bills. It's easily the biggest hurdle for hockey, at least here in America.
What the guy said could apply to 90% of NHL players.
That guy looks like he can eat 50 bags of chips
twitter is toxic. I rarely go on there anymore.
It's definitely a "who you know" sport. It's not just money to get in, but as far as climbing the ladder...definitely who you're willing to schmooze with. We saw this with our son, as he got to high school age, and was trying to make the move to AAA and/or junior A. He got cut from his local AAA team, so he tried out for the Grand Rapids Owls (jr A). I've coached and played since Troy was 7, and he was now 15 or 16. Not to be biased, but he definitely performed as well or better than a couple other defensemen. But he got cut, and another one or two made it. He then went to play for a AAA team in Kentwood, MI (home base for Mike Knuble). He was doing well and playing well...until he got hurt. Then he was all but blackballed by the staff. He would still be on the team, but wouldn't be starting when he came back. He was definitely head and shoulders above another kid, but HIS dad was team manager and had ties to the Griffins organization. The kid was cool about it, he felt bad for Troy and knew he deserved the spot. Some people's parents...
So Troy quit, and wrestled his last two years for his school. All that time and effort in a sport and position he loved now gone, because we weren't major butt-kissers, or "all that".
And Zach Hyman just got his 51st goal of the season and 200th career goal lol. He has been insane
You just know there’s a flames sweater under that jacket lmao. It’s always great to see the boys go out and get rewarded from their hard work. Stoked for Hyman and anyone else who hits that milestone!
I kind of agree with your take. I also agree with the other guy too. Yeah he is a good hockey player, but like you also said, his parents had stupid rich money so that he was able to get the training and playing time that he needed to get to where he is now. Sports in general take a lot of money to become good as a player the majority of the time. When I was growing up and I asked my parents if I could have played hockey, they would have said hell no. I was lower middle class at best. If people in the pro sports industry do not start recognizing this and actually help lower income families out with the cost, they are going to start loosing fans. I grew up on the east side of Madison, WI in the 80's and 90's, and each high school had it's own hockey team. That was Madison alone not including the other cities around Madison. I just went back in January for a funeral, and there is basically one high school out of Madison that even has a hockey team and the rest of the schools combined, including the cities around the east side of Madison.
You can knock me all you want as a hater, but what I said is the truth, that sports are becoming stupid expensive for families to afford.
The reality is Hyman is not a natural, but he puts in the work sacrifices his body, and he's kind as hell to everyone.
yes, his personality matches his hockey skills
It's the classic nature vs nurture debate. Everyone who is in the NHL has natural born talent. Everyone discounts this because EVERYONE in the NHL has natural born talent. The narrative that says, if you work really hard, you too can score 50 goals in the NHL - is completely BS. You need to have both, just to make the NHL. And a lot of luck and a lot of money... I know a ton of kids who have worked really hard (likely harder than some NHLer), and their parents had a ton of money, and they couldn't even make Junior A. Natural born talent matters.
Ok cool ....still no correlation between being well off and scoring 50 goals .Burkshire is basically talking about two separate subjects and trying his darnest to mash them into 1....
Can we resume ignoring Twitter neckbeards now?
Yes, agree. It's just ONE guy's opinion, people should ignore...
If Hyman only got 50 goals due to his parents wealth why did it take him so long to score 50 goals? If his parents wealth is what made him play and practice more why did it take him so long to reach 50 goals? Why didn't his parents wealth make him a 50 goal scorer the moment he first touched the ice? What about his parents wealth made him work hard? How did his parents wealth give him a strong work ethic?
I knew this from before and I 1000 percent agree. He was born on 3rd he didn't hit a triple.
I'd take Hyman's dad's pure love for hockey and development of the sport over Bettman's way of business any day of the week. I miss having him on the Leafs. Great player.
Hyman's season is perfectly described by coach chippy.
Should cover the Edmonton "high stick" penalty from tonight. May be the worst ref call of the year.
Hyman scores 50 goals in a NHL season & there's haters, who knew??
finding out that hyman is rich has about the same effect on me as if finding out he is gay... he is a good player who cares about anything else? idk
How many wingers have they tried to put with McD and it doesn't work, hyman puts in the work, yeah he comes from a rich family but he still puts in the work
nah it's a real problem especially in hockey and this andrew dude spoke the truth. this is like being CEO at 31 when your dad owns the business. at least in the states with something like football you can play IN HIGH SCHOOL and then get a scholarship to big state or whatever. that exploitation is a whole other conversation though.
look at soccer. how young do those dudes sign contracts and they don't even play. make a big club and get a 100k a year and all you need are boots and a ball.
idk how medically safe it would be to share equipment so parents could save dosh in the growing years but goddamn something needs to be done or this sport will be just be ice polo.
Thanks for playing devil's advocate on this one. Hockey is expensive AF. I played for a season or two when I was 8 or under but I think it just cost too much for my parents. I started a learn to play around 7 years ago at 27 and seem to still have some God given ability. However, who knows where it could have gone had I been doing it my whole life.
Definitely not something that every kid and family can afford to do and when you're set up like that, it sure removes some of the barriers... Owning 90+ teams and a scouting team, etc. ...? Just wow..
It’s call the “Myth of Meritocracy”
I applaud Hyman. It takes even more dedication when you are already set up well financially. Most affluent kids lack motivation because they are already set up.
Maybe it’s a bit unfair to make it the primary point of the story, but it’s true that a lot of your most well off success stories came from significant means. When you can dedicate yourself to your craft while not having to worry about getting a job to pay the bills, you’re probably going to get farther than most people.
I say this as someone who broke free from the lower working class if my childhood. It was incredibly difficult. I had to take big risks and execute appropriately.
Dude got fired by Steve Dangle.
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Curious, where’d you hear that?
@@NathanLipetzhe hosted a show on Steve Dangles podcast network called game over Montreal a recap of every Habs game. It got next to no views and they cancelled it after one season.
he wasn't fired, the sdpn had to lay off every Game Over crew because they weren't bringing in viewers (i.e. making enough money)
@@cheddarandsourcream they canceled all of them. So everyone got fired not just him specifically
Andrew well…nothing he says should be listened to and if you are going to listen take with a grain of salt a person who blames someone for being rich for success is either jealous, or just flat out angry he isn’t successful. Taking away someone’s achievement because of the hand he was dealt is one of the stupidest things ever
For me, the most remarkable thing is that Zach Hyman acts like a consistently good, down-to-Earth person. Actually listening to the Berkshire's points, though, he's right. He's saying 1) 50 goals is a great accomplishment, but 2) let's not pretend that this is a rags-to-riches inspirational story.
Hey, even Tie Domi scored 15 goals the year he was on Sundin's wing on a regular basis.
I'm not saying it's fair to s**t on Hyman, 50 doesn't happen by fluke, but buddy makes some very good points whether people want to admit it or not.
Hyman had every opportunity possible given to him by his father, but he also still had to work insanely hard to make it work and actually become an NHL star. Tons of other dudes would have just flamed out. I've seen guys who flamed out similarly, there are tons in every sport.
I think a lot of players have to come from some sort of wealth, its just the nature of how expensive the sport is, ice time, gear, travel ect..
Looking at equipment and registration fees: hockey has long been a rich kids’ game
Hymans father definitely paid for his son’s opportunities but Zach put the work in and 50 goals is proof that he deserves to be there.
There are plenty of other guys in the NHL who made it based on their family connections and money who haven’t come close to being the player that Hyman is
Total clown
Thank you for one of the reasonable takes on this AB video. He was not singling out Hyman, he was pointing out the "if you just work hard" that everyone was going on about in regards to Hyman. The culture brought Hyman into it, and AB just put more context into the situation.
What should be concerning but not surprising is the "bro" culture that piled on AB, without putting any thought into what was a being said. They ignored what he said right off the top of his video.
Some truly gross takes on AB video and attacks on him. Hockey culture is toxic and AB just exposed it in the biggest way.
I think that twitter guy missed when they said “5th round draft pick to 50 goal scorer” and thought they said “5 year old to 50 goal scorer” Hes acting like Hyman is only good at hockey because he was rich and not because he had any talent whatsoever, and they weren't even talking abut his childhood in the first place. Also, many players have played next to Matthews and McDavid, and not many have been 50 goal scorers.
He’s not wrong you can work as hard as you want but if you aren’t in the right game to be seen by a scout or you get injured at the wrong time your very likely not going to make the show
What makes his take so bad is that this is like the most obvious thing in the world, everyone knew this when they were 9 years old and this guy is just 40 just realizing it and posting it on twitter as breaking news 😂😂😂
He probably lost to Hyman in peewee and has held a life long grudge.
how does zach hyman being rich and his parents helping him get scouted have any effect of him now 31 years old scoring 51 goals. people complain about anything these days. he is a hard worker and he is a great player what the fuck does being rich as a kid have to do with what hes doing right now at 31??????
I’m not agreeing with what he said. But the stuff about his dad is WILD
your take on this was pretty spot on bruh. however, it kinda worked as i do see hymans success as a little less impressive now that i know this info
Many top players grow up with the advantage of wealth or being sons or nephews of pro players. The Tkachuk brothers have had this high end coaching environment and pedigree connections...but they also are incredibly skilled hard workers, love the game, leave everything one the ice and deserve the rewards they achieve. Hyman has the silver spoon but acts otherwise and has been not just blessed with great teammates, but he is also a very skilled, smart, tough, dogged player. He has a working mans attitude to the game. Kudos to him.
One thing I kinda agree with him on is that you do have to grow up rich these days to make it to the NHL, that is a huge barrier to entry. Hockey is an expensive sport, more so if you want any personal training or coaching which is pretty much needed these days to make it to the elite level
A ton of really good conversations coming out of this about hockey accessibility. Say what you will about this take, but it appears the sports writer did his job.
I’ve genuinely never heard such a trash bias/ spiteful take in my life from a “professional” journalist. Here’s a bulleted breakdown.
1. He’s “attacking” journalists for the narrative or hard work. As a ‘fan’ watching a 5th round player improve every year is the narrative of hard work (everyone who gets to the league had to work hard at some point) and he’s a veteran at this point. So bringing up childhood advantages is just hateful and irrelevant to the topic.
2. He had it easy playing with Matthews/ McDavid. Besides both being superstars there skill set and play style is completely different. They have complete control of who plays with them. Does anyone actually think Mcdavid who let Hyman on his line without explicit approval? other players like Evander Kane never got to the same level with same privileges. Once again a professional should be able to do that analysis. So if he was a real journalist, he should be asking why is he so successful with these players that others weren’t and why do superstars like playing with him.
So yah f. that guy.
By his logic, every child of rich parents would be in the NHL.
Maybe if this reporter's parents had money, he'd actually be good at his job.
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I couldn't play hockey because my parents couldn't afford it. I agree, money definitely helps. But you have to have talent to score 50 against the best players in the world.
I see both sides of this. I think people need to realize is that hard work is necessary but insufficient for success. If you think that "hard work = success" and that things like timing, luck, connections and networking don't play a role, you're fooling yourself. And that's more than just hockey. That's literally everything.