1700 An Awesome DIY Multi Fuel Heater
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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This guy is doing vastly more for the British Citizen than the entire government. Maybe this guy should be Prime Minister.
Even a baboon would do a better job at running this country,
than the rich psychos who keep voting themselves in lately !
Agreed. Our governments care only for their own bank balance.
I just made a short video using glass wool and synthetic motor oil . Burned better than I expected considering its only 40% mineral oil and the rest is friction modifiers and detergents etc but the flame was deep dark orange. I will have a look at glass insulation wool when it's finished and cooled down !👍🏻
I'll jump over and have look mate
You have helped the struggling cold in the UK more than the Government in 5 mins.😉
I was having bad luck creating alcohol stove things based on internet designs (needed to start in ultra cold environs) and after a bit just resorted to burning alcohol in a tiki torch with an adjustable flame height wick. Worked like a charm and I didn't have to figure anything else out. I now have an idea for a simple design that will allow the user to package the whole thing up including the preloaded alcohol fuel and take it with them on the go.
5:28 is the end of the video. And the black screen lasts from there up until 8:01
Regardless, nice idea with the cans :)
The last 2:30 was an ad for the Helen Keller Foundation 🤣
cheers mate - error in the edit I am fixing
Cant wait to share this with my grandson.. Favorite class in home school one we had to add, DIY Hacks!. Thank you!
This guy was great on "Last of Summer Wine".
Robert, I believe that a bigger plate, to absorb and radiate, would be better than a thicker one.
It also looks like a good candidate for the fully enclosed, outside vented stove I saw in video I don't remember...
Robert, you would make a great super villain with your laugh, enthusiasm and the tadaaaa when you achieve a simple useful thing, except you are doing good to your community/ humanity. all the best sir :) still love all your videos and inventions
You sir are a genius. 👍 Thank you for making people's life's that little bit more cosy this winter. Cheers J
Excellent!! Thanks very much just in case we need heat, this could save lives!!
An upgrade to that might be some form of extenal tank that would have a controlled fluid feed into the centre tank, as at the moment refilling it would require the heater to be cold.
I like that suggestion and I am mulling that one over
Yes, the alcohol stove...a larger version of the tuna or cat food can stove burns out the fuel in well under an hour.
For the steel plate and pot, I use a small Lodge iron pot upside down with an insulated handle. Easy to remove when the fuel is gone...can cools down...refill...light...put the still hot iron pot back on top.
I don't know if a terracotta pot atop the iron pot would help, but i have put the apparatus inside a large pot rightside up.
Easiest pot heater is a can of sterno which burns 5 hours, with a flower pot on top.
Thanks man love your straight talk …..
If you want a fuel source a good one for putting in a wood stove or heater, just get a wax cardboard and normal cardboard mix in water until a glue like consistently then press them into bricks dry them out and then they should burn like wood
I really like your channel. It's practical informative where you hand several "bits" of usefull information you can easily put together to a working project!
I still fear the day i'll watch the news and see you walked away by cops while laughing and saying "you see, that's how easy it is to make your own weapons of mass destruction!" 😁
All joking aside, thanks for all the information .
I'm almost finished with my waste oil rocket mass heater for the greenhouse.
awesome - I am looking forward to seeing that mate!
The flowerpot men !... Excellent I will try that :-)
awesome
Bill & Ben would be very proud ! 😁 👍
lol - indeed
Was there supposed to be three minutes of blackness at the end?
Great idea. Now all you need is some safety features.
probably to hit 8min mark to get midroll for ad things (just youtube things for monetisation)
error in edit mate - I am fixing it - and yes I agree a few shield and anti spill would be good as would separating the fuel from the burn head - on it!
The Sopranos ending !
(Rob got 'hit' 😆... where's luke?)
lol
Good job on the heater. I like that is smokeless. I had wanted to mention a concentrating solar trough for heating a working fluid like oil for an oil heater. And sealing the oil loop so it is insulated some from the cold and natural convection keeps the warm oil inside and the cold out side. And an oil tank for a thermal storage.
nice mate - like an oil filled radiator?
@@ThinkingandTinkering Yes same idea but using concentrating solar to warm it up.
Mr Smith, you're awesome !
oh wow - cheers mate
can I do this with the veg oil heater ? No smoke is a big plus here. The misses won't like smoke from my heaters. Thanks , mate, you are top notch !
I think you did a vanishing trick at the end Rob!
trying a new ending lol
Will make quite fine cook plate for
just about any pan .
Thank you! x
I have made these "Penny stoves" for backpacking cooking before out of Guinness beer cans , lots of good backpacking versions of light weight alcohol stoves out there.
for sure
I used the outer stainless tube from a coffee pump with a flower pot on top ran sterno. Hours and hours over 300 f out put
nice
No smoke. Well done.
lol
anaerobic digestors AKA septic tanks may be a kick in the right direction for small amounts of heat. if a hot water heater is set up to burn the methane as an oversized pilot light, or if properly saved a burst heating system.
Amazing work.
Thank you! Cheers!
I've enjoyed the channel and have been trying my hand at making some of these burners. In my humble experience this particular burner is dangerous. I darn near burned the house down when I tried it. My advice is to put your time and energy into some of the other designs on this channel and leave his one alone.
Great work!!! Im going for it...one question however. What about the carbon something...is it like the one used in aquariums for filtering? Do you possibly have a link on amazon or could you send a link for your shop etc? Thanks a lot 👍👏👏👏
Wonder how long a liter would burn for?
I would guess 8-10 hours
@@ThinkingandTinkering Thx Rob
Love your videos🤩
can you bulid something that can be used offgrid with wvo and burn for days?
Best regards Marius
Ok so I just made this using cotton yarn as a wick instead. I wrapped it around the smaller can then put it inside the shorter fatter can. I used the yellow bottle of Heet, which I believe is mostly methanol, as the fuel. I lit it and it seemed to be starting up pretty good until about 60 seconds after lighting the burner it exploded. Like a dummy I was doing this in my kitchen on my stove. I was smart enough to put in inside a stainless steel pot and I had the lid ready to put on top to smother it in case any problems. Well the problem was the alcohol went everywhere as well as the flame. Thankfully I stomped it out with a blanket. I should have known better and done this outside. Besides the fact that I was stupid for testing this inside my house, any ideas as to why this happened? This isn't the first time I had one of these DIY stoves explode on me either. I don't understand what I am doing wrong exactly.
Ceramic wool is another w"wick" that doesn't burn down or away.
Design challenge: ceramic/ glass "dab" container , 1/3rd cotton ball, olive oil fuel... And a drip feed ramp composed of bent soda can and a nozzle made of heat stretched bic pen and possibly vice grips to control flow... GO!!!
lol
So nice i need that pressure cooker for that felt.
cool
Is it safe to burn methanol indoors?
These heaters are awesome but what are the different fuels off-gasing? Being indoors in all likely the gases could build-up in an enclosed space so that's slightly concerning for anyone with respiratory issues also could certain fuels be carcinogenic? Would love a video on this. Thanks for all the great content 😃👍
cheers mate
great video as normal
Hello, what thickness is the carbon felt?
5mm or 3mm. Get creative. You can add copper and braid it etc.. lots of diy on the web.
Brilliant .... Subscribed & hooked .
Newspapers rolled up, soak it in used cooking oil. Store in a container. One can boil water or heat a meal, should be able to be used for heating too.
cheers mate
Would this stove design work with veg oil as the fuel?
I'm having trouble finding the 100% carbon felt. Anyone have a link for it?
And…how do you stop this burning?
I love this stuff, could we use this to heat a bucket of sand ? =)
Some rough calcs: peak flame temperature of ethanol is 1,920 °C wow
7 Calories per gram, 0.789 g/cm 3 at the temperature of 20 °C.
5,523 Cals per litre
800kJ to heat a 30m2 room 3m high by +10ºC (adjust this factor by 1/90 * 10 etc. as needed etc)
=> 191 Cal which means 1L is enough 28 days ? except there are losses due to walls, quality of insulation, etc.
...could we make a vacuum flask type of wallpaper ? ^^
So, I’ve built this myself and found out it is a bit of a bomb… what happened with my heater is that the whole thing gets hot, which causes the fuel to evaporate faster and faster. At some point the flames were twice the size of the heater itself.
What did I do wrong? There’s no way to keep the bottom cool… or is there?
Anyone?
now if only the pot had alot more mass and was insulated it could store bit more heat to radiate out later... maybe another bucket with some sand mass :-) ... you probably see where we are going here...
go for it mate
So what is the point of the metal plate INSIDE the plant pot? I've seen a lot of plant pot heaters where there are plant pots inside plant pots, but I don't understand how/why that would be better... what's the mechanism? Or is it a fallacy?
oh I just did that for a bit of fun mate - the final video in this series will be today or tomorrow and then you will see where I am going with this
@@ThinkingandTinkering Total world domination?
Guess I'm never going to know why some people do pots inside pots... it's Potception!
Anyway to adapt the design to refill when lit?
yep
Would it work with a large aluminum heat sink instead of steal?
Or will it melt/ crumble?
I suspect it would work but I am going a slightly different way with this
@@ThinkingandTinkering
Ok. I'll try and will send you the recording of it.
Certainly produces heat, but how much? Can it heat a room by itself in the winter? How much fuel would you consume doing so? Could you build a thermal bench and toss the heat into it, and would that be worth doing? Interesting video :)
and then we place an even larger pot over the original pot...... lol. How long did the tin can flame burn for? How much does methanol cost compared to petrol - as a percentasge in the UK would do? And this version of the video ended with "look Ma, no smoke" at approxe 5:31 although the video continued to 5:46 - just saying... Great ideas beget greater ideas.... Please keep them coming.
cheers mate
Soft Carbon Graphite Felt PAN-based Good Electrical Thin Sheet High Pure Carbon Graphite Industrial Grade Flexible Electrode - is this the material you use?
Any idea what the felt is after all mate?
Have you ever tested for carbon monoxide?
Where do you buy methanol?
I get mine from amazon 1.55 per lire
Amazon, amongst other places...
@@ThinkingandTinkering although it gives a beautiful flame, how long would a litre last, I suppose you can update us when winter comes or measure out a tenth of litre and time it.
What about refuelling
have a spare and swap it out - like a log burner!
@Robert Murray-Smith >>> 👍👍
wow - cheers mate
Bl**dy hell Bob, I just paid £84 for a new paraffin burner off ebay (and they just chopped those prices in half). I haven't even got it out of the box & this kit does the same job! But have u tried to blow it out yet? What's the easiest way without being able to turn down the wick?
I have a fire blanket and I drop that on - but any cover will do it - a tin lid for example
Is someone going put that in their living room? How can you SAFELY heat any home with this? Might make a good greenhouse heater, maybe. Also, it's not exactly 'multifuel' is it?
see other videos on other fuels and this kind of heater is used in boats - look it up
I think you can make a nice video on how to make your own spectrometer using a CD and a webcam.
I suppose - I can have look at it mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering I made one using a diffraction grating slide and made it exactly like "DIY Light Spectrometer" videos from Chris Wesely's channel describes. He's in UK too.
It's one of those things you wonder how you did without.
identifies fake UV LEDs and verifies the wavelength of lights. Very precise.
Cheers.
@@ThinkingandTinkering I think you will benefit greatly by buying a kit from him for under 100 pounds, if you don't care to build one, and use it to see the effects of florescence in your research and experiments.
Once I have passed my lazy phase, I plan on designing and building a smaller version for my pan and tilt 8" telescope and explore stuff in the night sky.
If I'm super lucky, maybe capture a UFO with all it's spectrum glory. 😃
👍🙏
cheers mate
Whats happened to Luke? Not seen him recently.
he is running. his own channel - there is a link to it in this video
If you put a bucket of sand ontop of the steel plate then you would have a slow release heat battery!!
Why there isn't any CO, just CO2?
it's methanol
@@ThinkingandTinkering apparently both ethanol and methanol burn without CO , I didn't know that. That's great news
More maniacal laughing. Ah! Another invention.
lol
doesn't matter how experienced you are, or how small the flame, we all have a little jump when the fuel ignites. 😆
lol - well spotted mate
I so enjoy your pure, unadulterated happiness when you create, quite endearing(and of course, smart solutions).
Thank you very much mate
That is so well put. I truly enjoy the same about him! Tada!
Excellent upgrade that. Video ends with a minute of black btw
I know it cut out the real ending - don't know why
ended on a cliffhanger
@@ThinkingandTinkering where do we get the carbon felt from Mr
I'd like to buy some ?
I don't know how I haven't stumbled upon your channel before but you've definitely kept me busy between watching your old video and the high frequency you upload at. Definitely an under recommended channel. Keep up the good work.
wow - cheers mate
Well earned 🏅
Self heating heater
He teaches self reliance and self confidence. The nanny state and it's big tech minions only want consumers.
Damn, I will have to buy stocks/shares from carbon-felt producers!
lol
Really really really enjoy the enthusiasm!!!
Thanks for sharing and I will definately build this and the 1702-video stove.
Thanks again and keep up the good work!!!
another great video, I collected some "bricks" from an old storage heater (I think they contain kryptonite 😳, never come across weight to mass like it, apart from lead), I think they would make a very good radiator, although would take a lot longer than a steel/copper ingot.
nice mate!
Sounds good. Give it a try and let us know.
Make sure they're not asbestos bricks - depending on the age of the storage heater they came from, they might be. I think up until something like the late 70s or possibly even into the 80s, some storage heaters used asbestos containing bricks.
According to another site, if you can “write” with a brick like chalk, then they’re safe to use in a rocket heater-type scenario.
@@jsl4228 Yeah, the serpentine family are heavy minerals. Optimized for heat storage, it's not in its fibrous form (asbestos), so I don't imagine there's any risk to the lungs from the stuff.
Please do a video on those 'soda can' style passive solar heaters. Also, whether or not the ones that are supposed to go inside the window would heat a room better than simply letting the sunshine in through the glass.
will do mate
Collecting and concentrating solar is great solution in my opinion. I second this request.
Third request here. Great tutor. Cheers for taking the time to, it can’t be easy, but much appreciated.
@@WSmith_1984 Yes indeed, if you have the Sun. Alas, we have so many trees that its not practical for us unless we spend A LOT of money to remove a number of rather large trees. We would like to since a good portion are sweet gumball... but we just don't have the money.
FWIW there are more great ideas for home made alcohol stoves on Tetkoba's alcohol stove YT channel... Really clever. I thought he'd stopped a few years ago but I'm pleased to see he's been uploading again.
hey enjoy all your vids. my question is can i convert my kerosine heater to burn alcohol? very expensive here in canada. can i just replace the kerosine with alcohol? juast wondering .
Robert could you Pease send a link for the exact carbon fiber you buy on amazon? when I look i don't see any that says 100% carbon thanks
I wouldn't have expected any smoke from methanol. Try the cooking oil.
have done
Great Work Earthling
Bless Up
cheers mate
Looks kind perfect to me although I would add some 1mm holes 10mm below the outside top edge to maximise the oxygen for the longer carbon chained fuels .
nice one mate - cheers
Can someone help me with the carbon felt please? On amazon I'm finding fireproof welding cloth but nothing that says 100% carbon felt.
Me too !
Now what to do when booze disappears off the shelves to be burned as fuel... 😁
(Hint, distilling your own is easy and fun! Why yes officer, it IS for fuel!!)
lol
I've been thinking about this because these small fuel burners make sense to me. I was given 8 gallons of methanol from a hardware store closure this summer and want to make a stove-heater, beginning with that fuel. I live in a small apartment attached to friends' family home with children, so it has to be super safe. I've seen many designs. Wondering which one will be very safe and efficient.
methanol heaters are sold mostly for marine - check out a few of the designs
Do not put this in your home. Especially if there are children living in the same building.
@@ThinkingandTinkering I am frugal and don't mind building something but if buying a safe and efficient burner makes better sense, I'm fine with that.
@@hubrisnaut marine versions will be designed to be spill proof I would imagine, also they are likely constructed with safety being absolutely paramount.
@@WSmith_1984 I'm going to look into buying something like that. I was given approx. $150 worth of fuel for free so that is the budget. If it was only myself to worry about, I would just do a build. Although I am extremely confident, in this instance, I could never forgive myself if I built something and it went terribly wrong for other people.
any issues with fumes given off in a small room tho?
they use methanol heaters in boats
Love the thinking process explained and the humour of your presentation style.
One thing, I noticed the methanol was clear, with no purple dye, is that available please?
yep - it's on amazon - the stuff with purple dye Is methylated spirit - it's really ethanol with a bit of meths chucked in
Thank you for the clarification 👍
your joy is infectious. Subbed and loving it....
Love the enthusiasm and the presentation style!
LOVE these videos, but a word of caution to those trying this, if you fill the fuel more than half, I experience it bubbling out of the can stove, and causes a volcano of methyl hydrate to cascade out like a geyser, nearly starting our house on fire.. be careful when playing with these stoves.
Can you use a sock in this like you've just demonstrated and can the fuel be methylated spirits?
Always coming up with ideas that offer REAL solutions…..that almost anyone can do. Keep at it!
cheers mate
I've just realised who Robert reminds of - a young Anthony Hopkins! He should have made this heater with a tin of fava beans and then had a nice chianti fufufufufufu 😂
now that would have been awesome lol
Kind of binging your videos - Thanks for doing what you do - I'm trying to come up with something I can use in my van when camping/living in it - I like you chemical reaction heater as well
What about putting a soapstone on top?
The ending, Rob, should we be worried? 😉🤗
lol - just an oddity in the upload - don't know why but how strange
Perhaps no visible smoke?? What about the carbon monoxide created by use of open undrafted flame??
I couldn't find the recommended size of the stainless steel mesh screen material. Anyone?
How do you know there's no CO1, because of the methanol? Can you go over what fuels do or do not produce CO1? Its an important consideration for indoor heating. (Edit - i see youve got other videos on that!)
So unlike the veg oil alternative methanol is much more combustible therfore would it not be likely to combust the storage point in the middle of the heater, I mean would just an easily dislogable coin be suffice when typing up an ignited burner???
I ask as I'm just about to construct one myself.
Chas