Comprehensive 9.1 Kyrian Arcane Mage Guide (Rotation, Soulbinds, Stats, etc.)

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  • @SupertroopTV
    @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +5

    9/3 UPDATES (Double on-use IQD/Ruby) BELOW:
    I forgot to include an explanation in the Tips & Tricks section for the Presence of Mind /cancelaura macro that you can find in the description. This macro lets you hard cast the final Arcane Blast if you used Presence of Mind for your 3rd or 4th Arcane Blast cast during the ST ramp.
    8/12 Update (Empyreal Ordnance vs. Ruby):
    www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8GYjjXbenb15SdZEnKr7Pi (Ordnance vs. Ruby ST 5 Min Sim)
    I've had a few questions regarding Empyreal Ordnance so I want to explain why I think it can work but shouldn't be chosen over Ruby. If you look at my sim report you can see that Ordnance sims close to Ruby.
    My main issues with Ordnance are:
    1) 14+ sec ramp time (yet another thing to have to line up)
    2) I still prefer to focus on getting Barrage to crit
    3) I can see this being useable in raid when you have to build Barrage stacks on pull, but in keys when you can start every pull with 18 Barrage stacks I can't see being able to wait until you get the int buff to use CDs.
    With that said I think you might be able to make it work in keys if you use it as a pack is dying and try to drag the int buff into the next pull or offset AP from your group's CDs and hope you don't lose Magi damage from mobs dying/moving due to waiting to start the ramp. All in all I think Ordnance can be effective but taking into account sims and my experience using Ruby so far I still believe the play is to keep grinding ToP until it drops. >.<
    Hope this helps!
    8/14 Update (40% Spark/Barrage Snapshot Issues):
    There have been a few comments about being unable to get both Blast and Barrage to benefit from the 40% Spark damage buff so I want to address that. I'm not sure exactly what is causing it because I haven't had that issue so far but my best guess is Spell Queue Window settings. I've put together a Google Doc with resources/screenshots to help you adjust you Spell Queue Window to see if that's causing the problem: docs.google.com/document/d/1QP-70mPDvDVzqpM5ywIGkmJ3SJFBisNi6A02HzOt9VY/edit?usp=sharing
    The other factor I can think of is if you're trying to wait/time pressing Barrage with the end of Arcane Blast to try and "queue" it up. All "queueing" Barrage up means is just mash the button like crazy!
    Let me know if this helps!
    8/18 Update (Mikanikos):
    I'm seeing quite a few good Raid Parses using Mikanikos lately. I've hit training dummies a bit but I haven't tested this very much. As with most CDR in general, if you can make good use of the extra CD uses then it can be a net gain. I could see lining up Spark with Orb being good in AOE situations. Pure ST the Spark CDR doesn't seem like it would gain much value. You can see in my sim: www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/36k9TehPGEfRkPvfZo5WWK that Mikanikos and Pelagos are pretty much equal. If you're able to fit 18 stack Barrages in between CDs without holding Magi/AP I could see this being viable. I still personally prefer the crit from Kleia in AOE for now.
    9/3 Update (IQD+Ruby w/Arcane Prodigy):
    I finally got around to testing IQD and Ruby double on-use with Pelagos/Mikanikos and IQD seems to work out much better in keys because you generally pop it on pull, so much less chance of it healing/giving the healer mana. And by macroing IQD into AP you still only need 1 trinket hotkey. So far I think that running double on-use with Arcane Prodigy is the play for Tyrannical because getting a 2nd AP during a sketchy Boss fight can be clutch.

    • @AAKhanivore
      @AAKhanivore 3 роки тому

      Trinket info re Ordnance is really important as mplus shows most ppl use ruby but wowhead advises ordnance. Thanks for sharing. Asked on discord but got the standard ‘sim it’ reply which is pointless as I’m low ilvl and gearing up.

  • @HighMakaMaka
    @HighMakaMaka 3 роки тому

    Beginner mage here. Excellent guide and amazing attention to detail. I was looking for a beginner guide and I found your video. I’ve been arcane leveling up and wanted to try fire. But after watching this video, I’m sticking with arcane. Thanks again for making this and I look forward to utilizing your instructions on playing Arcane to its highest potential.
    Keep up the great work!

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      Happy to hear it and welcome to Mage! Kyrian Arcane is a bit tricky but very rewarding. I will also be making both Fire and Frost content in the near future in prep for 9.1.5 when we can swap Covenants whenever we want :D

  • @genesismarsh-potini4153
    @genesismarsh-potini4153 3 роки тому +1

    great work, loving Arcane Mage.

  • @jeejee3100
    @jeejee3100 3 роки тому +1

    I’m always confused with radiant spark. It says the effects end after four spells. So I always do spark blast blast blast blast
    then barrage and those are five spells! Is that wrong because your aoe rotation has 6 spells in total. Or when you said blast/barrage they were counted as one spell because they hit at the same time?

    • @TheSaitinho
      @TheSaitinho 3 роки тому

      I'm confused too

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      Yea the tooltip is a bit ambiguous lol. The last 2 do basically count as one spell because of how barrage snapshots it damage (1:22). So queuing it up gives it the 40% buff with the 5th blast.

  • @Dojihr
    @Dojihr 3 роки тому

    What are you doing outside of any CDs on single target? Most I've seen is spam missile, orb if its up to get to two charges, then arcane blast to 4 charges and then barrage at 18 stacks 4 charges but I'm constantly low mana at 22% mastery because of this rotation.

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      Yea I usually end up getting 1 or 2 barrages between CDs depending on CC procs but with low mastery causing mana issues maybe just barrage at 10+ stacks since that's 2 missile casts and you get the mana refund from barrage, and make sure to use your mana gem on CD starting early in the pull. Another very minor thing you could do to save mana with orb is build the first 2 arcane charges with blast then orb for the 3rd and 4th charges instead of the other way around. Also, playing pelagos if you aren't already is probably necessary for mana conservation lol.

    • @Dojihr
      @Dojihr 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV so you just missile twice, barrage, and repeat unless orb is up?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      ​@@Dojihr Well cast Missiles twice and build to 4 Charges with Blast then Barrage because that will get you 10/13/16 stacks depending on Clearcasting procs for the Barrage. You can also start by building Arcane Charges after you Barrage to try for Clearcasting procs for the Missiles instead of building Barrage stacks first. The best solution is to get some more mastery but until then maybe smaller more frequent Barrages will help mitigate it the Mana issues.

    • @Dojihr
      @Dojihr 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV So you don't just constantly spam missiles even sitting at 18 stacks until orb is up?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      @@Dojihr I build to 18 stacks and then build 4 Charges with Orb or Blast depending on when Orb comes up, but as soon as I hit 18 stacks I'll start building Charges. I usually only cast Missiles with 18 stacks if I'm holding them for upcoming CDs. What I'm suggesting in the previous replies are ideas to help with your Mana problems due to lack of Mastery but my focus is to cast as many 18 stack/4 Charge Barrages as I can between CDs until ~12 seconds before Magi is ready.

  • @juanmatiasohara775
    @juanmatiasohara775 3 роки тому +1

    Any thoughts on Mekanicos? I've been really enjoying him for keys, specially when packs survive longer than 20s. You can pop it in combination with arcane orb and do a pretty decent amount of funnel + aoe damage.
    Also, sims suggest Mekanicos is the way to go for most situations. I might consider swapping to Kleia for Tyran weeks just because that third potency gets a lot more value.
    I really enjoyed your comments on secondary stats. I prefer playing with 13-15% haste, although currently I'm playing with 11% due to gear.
    Overall, excellent guide, I really enjoyed listening to you, a lot of the things mentioned thing were things I found out by myself and having the reassurance from a great arcane mage, makes me glad that I'm getting a good grasp of this very fun spec.

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      I haven't done any testing with Mikanikos yet. So far with how things have played out in keys for me I can't see getting full value from the Radiant Spark CDR and my understanding is Mikanikos is mainly good for the Haste trait (Hammer of Genesis), which I can't see being optimal for this build. With that said, because I haven't done any testing and I don't know how good the dmg from Bron is (since I have read that Arcane can proc Bron fast with Barrage cleave), it's possible it has some use. I personally prefer Kleia for the crit that bypasses DR. It never hurts to test though! :D
      Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

    • @juanmatiasohara775
      @juanmatiasohara775 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV I’m gonna play with both Kleia and Pelagos this week. Given how easy the affixes are, I can give myself some leisure to experiment in high keys.

  • @Verigo
    @Verigo 3 роки тому +1

    Im having trouble killing my Muehzala soul in the dungeon De Other Side. Do you have any tips to be able to kill the soul while also dodging the missiles?

    • @autocrab481
      @autocrab481 3 роки тому

      You should have mini burst for this. When battle with muehzala starts you have to pop all your cds at very start of battle. If you don't have any at this time, then save them on shadow. Time between start and portals is approx. 50 - 60 seconds. When you teleport to shadow use mini burst at very start. Cast ring, then when shadow appears cast spark+totm and so on. Mini burst will take about 70% hp of shadow. Also don't forget to have 18 stacks before portals

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      On high tyr keys I just save AP for the add phase and mini-burn on pull, also make sure to have presence of mind and u can probably hard cast the first arcane blast then PoM and skip the 5th Blast if you have to move. But ya what they said make sure u have 18 stacks going into the add phase so u can start the ramp immediately.

  • @pevloescobar3510
    @pevloescobar3510 3 роки тому

    Radiant spark says that it's only affected by direct damage spells, so how come the aoe ramp part of the video has you doing arcane explosions to further the spark damage?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      The tooltip is a bit ambiguous, I think direct damage spells just means non-Dot spells/debuffs. For example Magi doesn't proc the stacks, I assume because it deals no damage, but both Orb and Arcane Explosion proc the stacks.

  • @shigeosato8
    @shigeosato8 3 роки тому

    Any tips on how to consistently get 5 arcane blasts + barrage in for radiant spark? my barrage seems inconsistent and sometimes gets the 40% spark boost and sometimes it doesn't. I've tried distance, more haste, etc. and nothing seems to work.

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      So the distance and haste thing is more about getting Barrage to land during Magi than getting the 40% Spark buff for both Blast and Barrage. Dubcat commented earlier about the spell queue window setting affecting his ramp so I'll be putting together an explanation of how I set my spell queue window soon and I'll put it in the pinned comment. With that said, all "queuing up" means for Barrage means just mash the barrage button while you cast Arcane Blast, so if you've been waiting until the end of the cast to try and time it that may be why.

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      I've added a Google Doc with resources regarding the Spell Queue Window and how you can change it to see if that's the problem.

    • @shigeosato8
      @shigeosato8 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV This worked great! thanks a bunch for posting it

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      @@shigeosato8 glad to hear it!

  • @marek6371
    @marek6371 3 роки тому +1

    Hey would u take Arcane Prodigy in m+? Because it bites a lot with the ruby doesnt it ?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      Lately I've been liking Kleia in keys so I havent been taking arcane prodigy. I've found when pushing that I'm not able to use AP exactly on CD all the time because it needs to be up for specific pulls. Also the way I see Ruby and Arcane Prodigy is that if u crit without using Ruby u do the same dmg as if u had used Ruby so using AP without Ruby doesn't always mean less dmg, just more likely to be less dmg lol

    • @marek6371
      @marek6371 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV ok but u always want to use ruby together with AP right? so isnt ruby kinda wasted when u play arcane prodigy and use AP on cd? because like that u can only combine AP and ruby every 3rd AP and not every single one like without arcane prodigy :

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      It definitely feels like a waste but given that ruby's crit buff scales with enemy HP (which can be gamed a bit) its still gonna be more stat than IQD and I'm not a huge fan of ordnance given the struggle of timing the ramp with cleave. I think ruby is still the best option available with pelagos and it's a ST increase to use AP on CD even if ruby isn't ready. Given that this build is all about timing, for me it comes down to if I can get the full AP dmg out before ruby is ready, if I can I send it and if I can't then I take kleia instead. So far I've had good results doing this.

  • @brandon9689
    @brandon9689 3 роки тому +1

    LOL barrage is mega wonky man. I see it refuse to hit cleave targets all the time. You are the first class guide I've seen to make any mention of this.

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      ya i've started getting used to saying things like, "i know this is obnoxious but... could you plz move the boss like 3yds closer? THX :D"

  • @AAKhanivore
    @AAKhanivore 3 роки тому

    When you say ‘touch of the magi cleave’ do you mean the explosion at the end of the 8 seconds?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      Yea exactly

    • @AAKhanivore
      @AAKhanivore 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV one thing that might be worth sharing with viewers is about spellqueuewindow. Warrior discord had me set that to 100+latency so 121 in my case. Turns out this was resulting in big gaps in my cast which meant my barrage was hitting after TOTM unless I stood right on the mob. Arcane discord had me set it to 400 and it’s all working fine now. No more gaps!

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      Good point! I've had mine set to 250 for Fire last tier and so far it seems to be working well. I've seen/read conflicting suggestions on what it should be so I've just trial & errored my way to 250. I'm gonna put together something about it and put it in the pinned comment.

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      @@AAKhanivore ua-cam.com/video/1Ff2JAmmJ78/v-deo.html I found the video I learned about spell queueing from, pretty great resource and makes an argument for 400 being a bit high.

  • @dims4627
    @dims4627 3 роки тому +1

    #showtooltip Counterspell
    /cast [@mouseover, exists, nodead][] Counterspell
    This macro does mouseover counterspell BUT it also counterspells your primary target if there's no mouseover or you simply hold right mouse button.
    It's so good, I don't know how to play without it now

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      That's a good one for sure but I've found that the travel time for my mouse makes me miss kicks lol, I stick to focus kicks for insurance purposes and just use the mouseover set focus. I would also add a "harm" component to it to make sure it doesn't bug out if u mouseover an ally if that's ever been an issue for u.

  • @AytacYildirim
    @AytacYildirim 3 роки тому

    Hello i can't cast 5. arcane blast during ToTM window with %13 haste. My range also close to dummy like 7-8 yards. What are you think about that problem ?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      My best guess is your Spell Queue Window is causing this. I've added resources to the pinned comment that explain how to adjust that to see if that's what's causing it.

  • @Colls96
    @Colls96 3 роки тому

    Hey Sup,
    Thank you for all the vids and guides. Really appreciate it.
    Is there any chance that U’ll make some m+ guides as well? Taking us thru ur keys explaining stuff? I personally feel like sometimes I can’t react too well on certain situations as arcane and losing dps. Doing around 8-9.5k overalls on 18-20 keys feel like im under perfoming and would really love to have some talk thru m+’s if U could!
    Have a nice evening!

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      I am planning to do m+ guides! Because keys are so long I'm going to break them up into smaller videos focusing on specific topics (such as blink stun removal opportunities). I will be working more on that in the next couple weeks and if you have a specific topic you'd like me to cover just join my discord and let me know in the UA-cam-short-request channel :). And regarding overall DPS that's about where I end up but that's with missing Barrage cleave during CDs for various reasons. I'd start by making sure you arent using CDs during tank movement or other situations where Barrage cleave would be reduced.

  • @Robaldeenyo
    @Robaldeenyo 3 роки тому

    Any chance you can do a quick EO guide?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      I updated my pinned comment with my take on Ordnance, assuming EO meant Empyreal Ordnance lol

    • @Robaldeenyo
      @Robaldeenyo 3 роки тому

      I don't see the pinned comment! Appreciate the video it's very clear.

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      @@Robaldeenyo I guess it cancelled the pin when I edited it, it's pinned now

  • @frostfire5208
    @frostfire5208 3 роки тому

    For AOE do we want to farm up 18 stacks or just go straight into the rotation with no stacks?

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      For AOE you want to only missiles with Clearcasting procs up to 7 targets, dont bother with missiles over 7. But when Orb is gonna be up before I'd have time to generate 4 charges with Arcane Explosion and Barrage, I'll cast missiles til Orb is ready.

  • @Azratful
    @Azratful 3 роки тому

    How to proper use Ruby? its always on cd when 2th arcan power is up

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      I've had good results just holding Ruby for the next Arcane Power use. I looked through my sim sample action sequence and it uses Ruby the same way. It's more important to use Arcane Power on CD when running Arcane Prodigy than to line it up with Ruby.

  • @yesh1000
    @yesh1000 3 роки тому

    I am curious what is ur current stat %

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому +1

      My current stats as of 8/18 are:
      23.4% Crit
      13.3% Haste
      12.6% Vers
      27% Mast
      Im finding this plays pretty well so far.

    • @yesh1000
      @yesh1000 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV
      Ahhh I think I have too much in my mastery!
      27% crit
      11% haste
      31%mastary
      6% vers

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      @@yesh1000 Ya I've been following my stat weights and they want me stacking vers>mast/crit for now so I'm seeing how that turns out. So far so good.

    • @yesh1000
      @yesh1000 3 роки тому

      @@SupertroopTV how do you do that stat weight? Is it through raidbot

    • @SupertroopTV
      @SupertroopTV  3 роки тому

      @@yesh1000 Yea, on raidbots pick the Stat Weights tab and u can load in your characters current armory profile and sim that, or if u have the SimulationCraft addon installed just type /simc and copy paste that data into the raidbots window. And then the best way to save your stat weights in game is an addon called pawn, raidbots will generate a pawn string that u can paste into pawn in wow.