It is refreshing to see a woodgas stove video where the stove is used as a gasifier. So many other videos show them being used as twig stoves. Well Done! Thanks for sharing with us.
Yes, you don't get the secondary burn with the fuel piled up above the holes on the middle inner chamber so any fuel above those holes will produce smoke, which means about 3.5 inch sticks.
I am a little late for the comment, but thank you for helping me decide on a wood stove. And it is refreshing to see someone not just complaining that a product lack a certain thing they need, you drilled some holes and made your own solution, awesome :).
I bought one a few months ago, the large version, which he demonstrated. Have seen other demonstrations, different fuel chamber packing methods, starting methods, etc. One thing that I noticed is that some people used cut and split wood, which didn't seem to catch that readily. The stove is usually packed so full that, I'm convinced, the air flow is hindered. As with most wood (and alcohol) stoves, a wider pot makes the most of a non-pressurized, broader flame pattern. I have a ti cup which nests nicely, but requires much more time, fuel, and fiddling to achieve a two cup boil than my Evernew 1.3 liter pot. I don't worry about soot. I just want to light it, put the pot on top, and get busy with other camp chores while the water comes to a boil. The smaller stove, from the videos that I have seen, requires more frequent tending because of its smaller burn chamber, and is not as stable because of its narrower base.
Nice vid, I'm going to look into getting one myself. Great to hear it not being called a "bug out bag". Drives me nuts. Too many people playing Zombie apocalypse.
I came across your video after I made my own "how to use'" the Toaks stove. It seems that we've both come to the same conclusion as to how to fill the Toaks. Yep, it took some goes to figure it out. Most overfill the stove above the gasifier holes and wonder why it smokes so much. The smaller Toaks stove fits into the Toaks 750ml pot.
Cool video, thanks for posting. For 'bushcrafting' I've been using one of the cheap chinese stainless steel woodgas stoves for a while, it fits perfectly inside my stainless steel Zebra billycan, it's an indestructible pairing, but quite heavy. I've not seen that Coughlans fire gel stuff here in the UK, but I've had good success using a cottonwool pad smeared with Vasoline as a lightweight firelighter. I have seen people soak a cottonwool pad in wax to make a waterproof fire lighter. I also have the Toaks 1100ml bail handle pot and the 650ml cup for backpacking which i use with the Toaks alcohol stove, which is a nice lightweight setup, but I find I always have a certain amount of 'fuel anxiety' on longer trips. So based on your excellent review here, I've just ordered the small version of this stove to supplement my existing setup. I'll probably post up a review/field test video once it arrives. atb from sunny Derbyshire, Tim o/
I always start the fire tiny. The chamber needs heating to work efficiently. So when the flame is developing you can scout around for a few more thumb sized dry pieces of wood. The best thing is to incorporate a pair of long handled pruning shears instead of an axe
the windscreen is upside down, you want the holes near the air intake. Also make some room around it so the air can get to it. It works best when the air flows into the lower intakes.
i think this stove is nice and is good if you just want to boil water. I feel that Gen2 Titanium Folding Firebox Nano is better. It lighter has 2 opening to feed wood into continuously, it is incredibly stable and can have grilling platforms added and can easily handle a skillet. It is also built to hold an alcohol stove and a gas burner if either is desired.
awesome review. I fully plan on picking this larger size Toaks stove up myself. The majority of the reviews that I've seen on it are all great and the stove itself is really inexpensive for just how well it works. Thanks for the extra info!
Useful tips for a real gem of a stove. This titanium wood stove has a superb design, especially, in regards to the internal chamber's ability to harness and utilize the wood gases efficiently. On Toak's website (accessory section), you can also pick up a titanium rack for the top, that is only $2.50. Toak's recommends that you buy two sets, for more functionality. And it's still a terrific deal at only $5, for a set of two. Supposedly, the rack can only be used on the larger model like the one you have, but it looks like it would be easy enough to modify it for the smaller unit. Thanks! for a well made video of what really should become in the future, like you said, "A Go To" wood gasifier titanium stove. Enjoy!
I like what you did with the DIY pot stands, just thinking with how tall this stove is, maybe drilling another set of holes slightly lower would help even more consideringy our cup nests inside the stove so well. Having the heat forced up the side of the cup further could result in faster boil times. You'd be covering the burn hole more but it could be a good trade off to try.
Good demonstration, thanks. I usually use a tiny alcohol stove (with the same titanium pot), but I'm going to look into your set-up .. I like the idea of not having to carry alcohol.
I look at them as not one or the other. I primarily use alcohol or isobutane when backpacking on trail but use wood burning when I am off trail. Either way I like this stove by far the most for wood burners.
Great vid mate.....I am very tempted to buy one of these.(though I have too many stoves already lol)..you can't beat a brew made on a wood stove Cheers Chris
I've watched this great video once before, but I was self-medicating with some "herbs" and decide to watch it again. It was even better this time, and since this is still the same video, I'm chalking it up to the herbs. :-) P.S I purchased that 19 cm windscreen at your recommendation. Thanks.
Very good review! Much appreciated sir👍 I ordered a Toaks pot with bail and a pan lid and a long spork. Maybe the stove will be my next on the wishlist. i love Toaks products. Cheers 👍😃👊
As a light weight ( 5 oz ) titanium stove it is a weight saver. Weight savings is always a good idea for a well made product. The only thing that stopped me from getting one is the height of it. I'm sorry you had trouble with your Bush Buddy. I have the ( 9 oz ) Solo Stove ( twin to the Bush Buddy ) and it has never failed me in all of the years of use. If they ( Toaks ) ever makes a lower version of their titanium stove I would have to try it.
The ABSOLUTE best, lightest and smallest carry size is TRAIL DESIGNS SIDEWINDER titanium sheet cone stove (or the larger TRI--TI. With the INFERNO inverted cone insert these stoves are TRUE GASSIFIER stoves like the TOAKS. But they both hold the dedicated pot lower into the cone to conserve heat and concentrate it on the pot bottom and sides. Got a favorite pot that needs one of these stoves? Trail Designs can usually make custom size for most backpacking pots.
The rocket/gasifying feature should theoretically give more heat from the fuel due to more complete combustion, and less particulate air pollution. Would steady it against tipover with rocks, if possible.
Put the gel on a stick placed at the bottom of the pile/stove. Light through one of the holes at the bottom. Fire/heat travel up. The fire will start faster.
Everett Vinzant: Obviously he has not, as your comment is in line with both physics and experience from well-seasoned outdoor people. Heat causes updraft, and this causes a constant supply of fresh air from below into the fire. However, (too) many guys find it difficult to do without burning themselves...and therefore for them (!) the "top burn start" is the easier way to start a fire. But that is not why a "top burn start" is "better"...it is just simpler for some.
Do you know if this stove fits inside the GLACIER STAINLESS BOTTLE CUP LARGE from GSI and if the Klean Kanteen Bottle you used was the 40 oz version or a different one ? Thanks :)
Could you provide a link for the windscreen you were using in this video? It actually looks better than the one displayed on the Toaks' website. Cheers!
+Stephen O'Brien www.aliexpress.com/item/Windproof-Plate-Height-15cm-19cm-Ultralight-Ultra-thin-Titanium-Outdoor-Camping-Stove-Wind-Shield-Screen-60cm/32465728526.html Ensure to get the 19cm version. The 15cm version is too short. I am finding more that it starves the stove so make sure to punch significantly more holes in the bottom section.
To make the fire starting easier: put the fire gel in the BOTTOM, then load with twigs on top, as you do. Light from the bottom and drop into the stand.
Try placing the tender/fire starter in the bottom and load the fuel wood on top. THEN lift the stove and lite it from the bottom. The 'ash pan' (this is the lower chamber of the 'fire box') is filled with holes and is perfect for putting the heat source (FLAME generated from whichever method) next to the tender. Indeed the upside down fire method is all the rage these days. Even the manufactures of these types of wood burning stoves try to entice would be buyers to buy their product by “selling” them on the idea that one may overcome basic fire building skills simply by purchasing their stove. This said, hear is simply a challenge. I dare you to try this method. I submit that it is important to understand the concept of convection and how it relates to fire building. The gentleman in this video demonstrates the idea very nicely. Keep in mind the 'PLATFORM' is built into the stove you are using. ua-cam.com/video/Ma6VqwIuI24/v-deo.html
I like wood gasification stoves but haven’t found any that we’re lightweight (for any price) until I happened to hear of this TOAKS stove. This is one of the better reviews of the stove that I’ve seen. Thank you for posting this video. By the way the large stove weighs 5.4 ounces and the small stove weighs 4.3 according to REI. One question, do you still use this stove?
+The Emporium Yes it still resides in my "go pack" and is still in my opinion the best option for a wood burning stove. I will likely pick up the smaller version that fits the smaller canteen for an even lighter more portable setup.
I'm undecided between this Toak or UL Compact Design Titanium Emberlit, please give me your advice? You've had experience with emberlit? I do not know what to buy
I appreciate the thoughtful review. Here is a general question about these types of stoves: are they allowed in parks that do not allow open fires? I'm unclear what constitutes 'open fire'? Thanks again.....Keefe
Keefe Borden, no forest or park ranger would allow any open flame except directly on mineral soil with no flammable materials near to catch flame, spark, or coal not put "dead out" with sufficient water ready at the fire itself, an on/off stove is the usual requirement or a no fires ban. This is for USA, elsewhere likely have different laws and regulations. Here, it is a hefty fine and backcountry rangers for enforcement. The "fire bugs" are arrested. The problem of these videos showing wood fires on "forest duff" not mineral soil, and inflammable materials so nearby is that a fire can catch immediately or be in the "forest duff" and break out later on. The number of forest fires should be a "hint" because there is no lightning involved. If I seem oversensitive on this point, we have perfectly safe backpacking stoves banned with the on/off stove rule already because one fool very likely kicked over his stove in Colorado and, now, we have another forest fire just off the trail at an overnight "wild" camp as so many denizens of the UA-cam say. There isn't any backpacking stove with an automatic tip over on/off, nevertheless the new fire ban order rule persists. It won't be long, and we can have a "no fires" rule, except at established fire rings, or strictly "no fires" because UA-cam has so many videos depicting "campfires" so big tree branches could catch fire. I made photos of the steps involved of the actual way to put a gasifier wood stove fire "dead out" over at bplite.com forum on this thread www.bplite.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=4623 because so many participants were interested in the development of wood stoves for backpacking and we had just had that incident in Colorado. I like Toaks a lot, so I am commenting here.
The gel is cohglans fire gel. Cheap stuff and works great. I have noticed after long storage it will start to get crusty and is harder to work with but it still works!
Buy yourself some Vaseline and bees wax. Melt the beeswax, remove from heat (!) , when it starts to thicken, add vaseline to it. Stirr into gel. - Alternatively... soak cotton balls in vaseline, coat soaked balls in beeswax... break open before lighting.
how come you don't carry a piece of wire that is rigid enough to bend into a grill and place it on some rocks make a fire and cook some thing that's what I did find some 1/8 inch thick wire or a little thicker much lighter in the pack and cools faster
+Outdoor Exploration soot is petroleum based the ASH is good for the ground and you spent to much because you didn't think about what you need I found the wire from some guys doing a drop ceiling I cook hot dogs and other things it works much better than the stove and bend it into a grill for cooking or a spit to stick through a small animal (rabbit) bend a turning handle on it and rotate the game over the fire try the wire trust me !!!
And I didn't even burn the forest down! Please describe a scenario where this small of a fire that is being attended to from light to the coal being cool where I start a forest fire? Any fire that could potentially bleed out of the stove would be so small my nalgene of water and a bit of tamping would be more than acceptable to deal with the fire. Even if it is knocked over and dumps the small amount of coals the same strategy would be effective because, again, I don't walk away from it.
regardless of what you and your super human powers do or dont do...ANY time there is open flame you make sure that there area is clear of things that can and will burn. You disregarding that with your super human powers only confirms that you have no clue what you are doing in the woods and your lack of considerations for others that enjoy it the way that is is. have fun
Yeah... So, Esbit is the way to go for the easiest, lightest weight way to boil a cup or so of water. I've jacked with all kinds of stoves, different fuels. Esbit. Period.
It is refreshing to see a woodgas stove video where the stove is used as a gasifier. So many other videos show them being used as twig stoves.
Well Done! Thanks for sharing with us.
Yes, you don't get the secondary burn with the fuel piled up above the holes on the middle inner chamber so any fuel above those holes will produce smoke, which means about 3.5 inch sticks.
"Can't stand the term bug-out-bag, I'm not surviving the apocalypse I'm just trying to have fun" -> the fastest I've ever subscribed to a channel!
I am a little late for the comment, but thank you for helping me decide on a wood stove. And it is refreshing to see someone not just complaining that a product lack a certain thing they need, you drilled some holes and made your own solution, awesome :).
I bought one a few months ago, the large version, which he demonstrated. Have seen other demonstrations, different fuel chamber packing methods, starting methods, etc. One thing that I noticed is that some people used cut and split wood, which didn't seem to catch that readily. The stove is usually packed so full that, I'm convinced, the air flow is hindered. As with most wood (and alcohol) stoves, a wider pot makes the most of a non-pressurized, broader flame pattern. I have a ti cup which nests nicely, but requires much more time, fuel, and fiddling to achieve a two cup boil than my Evernew 1.3 liter pot. I don't worry about soot. I just want to light it, put the pot on top, and get busy with other camp chores while the water comes to a boil. The smaller stove, from the videos that I have seen, requires more frequent tending because of its smaller burn chamber, and is not as stable because of its narrower base.
"not trying to survive the apocalypse, just trying to have fun"
amen brother
My "go bag" kept my family comfortable when we had those power outages in Texas in February.
Nice vid, I'm going to look into getting one myself. Great to hear it not being called a "bug out bag". Drives me nuts. Too many people playing Zombie apocalypse.
I came across your video after I made my own "how to use'" the Toaks stove. It seems that we've both come to the same conclusion as to how to fill the Toaks. Yep, it took some goes to figure it out. Most overfill the stove above the gasifier holes and wonder why it smokes so much.
The smaller Toaks stove fits into the Toaks 750ml pot.
Awesome demonstration. I just got the smaller Toaks wood stove and this video answered all my questions. Thank you.
Perfect - I love the modifications with the stakes.
Thanks for the video. I'm going to purchase one of these and the tips will help use it better starting at the first use.
Cool video, thanks for posting.
For 'bushcrafting' I've been using one of the cheap chinese stainless steel woodgas stoves for a while, it fits perfectly inside my stainless steel Zebra billycan, it's an indestructible pairing, but quite heavy.
I've not seen that Coughlans fire gel stuff here in the UK, but I've had good success using a cottonwool pad smeared with Vasoline as a lightweight firelighter. I have seen people soak a cottonwool pad in wax to make a waterproof fire lighter.
I also have the Toaks 1100ml bail handle pot and the 650ml cup for backpacking which i use with the Toaks alcohol stove, which is a nice lightweight setup, but I find I always have a certain amount of 'fuel anxiety' on longer trips.
So based on your excellent review here, I've just ordered the small version of this stove to supplement my existing setup.
I'll probably post up a review/field test video once it arrives.
atb from sunny Derbyshire,
Tim o/
I always start the fire tiny.
The chamber needs heating to work efficiently. So when the flame is developing you can scout around for a few more thumb sized dry pieces of wood. The best thing is to incorporate a pair of long handled pruning shears instead of an axe
So much safer. I use a pair of 6 inch knipex cobra pliers and just crush and break them. These pliers have amazing leverage at the back of the jaws.
the windscreen is upside down, you want the holes near the air intake. Also make some room around it so the air can get to it. It works best when the air flows into the lower intakes.
Now this is a great stove, I bought the Toaks small version of the stove...and love it...
You could use a couple of titanium stakes to secure the stove to the ground.
The bottom air holes should do nicely.
i think this stove is nice and is good if you just want to boil water. I feel that Gen2 Titanium Folding Firebox Nano is better. It lighter has 2 opening to feed wood into continuously, it is incredibly stable and can have grilling platforms added and can easily handle a skillet. It is also built to hold an alcohol stove and a gas burner if either is desired.
awesome review. I fully plan on picking this larger size Toaks stove up myself. The majority of the reviews that I've seen on it are all great and the stove itself is really inexpensive for just how well it works. Thanks for the extra info!
Useful tips for a real gem of a stove. This titanium wood stove has a superb design, especially, in regards to the internal chamber's ability to harness and utilize the wood gases efficiently. On Toak's website (accessory section), you can also pick up a titanium rack for the top, that is only $2.50. Toak's recommends that you buy two sets, for more functionality. And it's still a terrific deal at only $5, for a set of two. Supposedly, the rack can only be used on the larger model like the one you have, but it looks like it would be easy enough to modify it for the smaller unit. Thanks! for a well made video of what really should become in the future, like you said, "A Go To" wood gasifier titanium stove. Enjoy!
FINALLY someone that knows how to light this thing!
I like what you did with the DIY pot stands, just thinking with how tall this stove is, maybe drilling another set of holes slightly lower would help even more consideringy our cup nests inside the stove so well. Having the heat forced up the side of the cup further could result in faster boil times. You'd be covering the burn hole more but it could be a good trade off to try.
Good demonstration, thanks. I usually use a tiny alcohol stove (with the same titanium pot), but I'm going to look into your set-up .. I like the idea of not having to carry alcohol.
I look at them as not one or the other. I primarily use alcohol or isobutane when backpacking on trail but use wood burning when I am off trail. Either way I like this stove by far the most for wood burners.
+T3Knical5urg3 Got it, that makes sense. Subscribed to your channel ...
Great vid mate.....I am very tempted to buy one of these.(though I have too many stoves already lol)..you can't beat a brew made on a wood stove
Cheers
Chris
Good adjustments to make it work for you. Nice overall system. Going to look into this.
I've watched this great video once before, but I was self-medicating with some "herbs" and decide to watch it again. It was even better this time, and since this is still the same video, I'm chalking it up to the herbs. :-) P.S I purchased that 19 cm windscreen at your recommendation. Thanks.
Great video. Thanks so much for sharing! I just ordered the small version.
timex watch great choice , i went back to them because they never fail
Very good review! Much appreciated sir👍 I ordered a Toaks pot with bail and a pan lid and a long spork. Maybe the stove will be my next on the wishlist. i love Toaks products. Cheers 👍😃👊
I would have loved a link to that wind screen.
As a light weight ( 5 oz ) titanium stove it is a weight saver. Weight savings is always a good idea for a well made product. The only thing that stopped me from getting one is the height of it. I'm sorry you had trouble with your Bush Buddy. I have the ( 9 oz ) Solo Stove ( twin to the Bush Buddy ) and it has never failed me in all of the years of use. If they ( Toaks ) ever makes a lower version of their titanium stove I would have to try it.
The height of this design is one reason why it works so well. The updraft is enhanced, pulling more air in from the bottom.
The ABSOLUTE best, lightest and smallest carry size is TRAIL DESIGNS SIDEWINDER titanium sheet cone stove (or the larger TRI--TI. With the INFERNO inverted cone insert these stoves are TRUE GASSIFIER stoves like the TOAKS. But they both hold the dedicated pot lower into the cone to conserve heat and concentrate it on the pot bottom and sides.
Got a favorite pot that needs one of these stoves? Trail Designs can usually make custom size for most backpacking pots.
Take 3 more of your stakes and tripod effect with sticking them into the ground so the stove do not move. Good video.
What would it be like if you dig s small trench to get more air under the stove? Like a Dakota pit fire hole type scenario.
For stability try tent pegs through the bottom holes
Windscreen if it were turned over the vent holes would be on the bottom and feed air to the bottom of the stove.
The rocket/gasifying feature should theoretically give more heat from the fuel due to more complete combustion, and less particulate air pollution. Would steady it against tipover with rocks, if possible.
It’s basically the back draft effect with these kinds of stoves.
At the beginning of this video I was laughing in my mind at those dry leaves thinking this is how the Lady Gaga's house burned down in 2015.
You can use 3 tent stakes for stability...
Put the gel on a stick placed at the bottom of the pile/stove. Light through one of the holes at the bottom. Fire/heat travel up. The fire will start faster.
ward4peace I'd really like to know the science behind that. Do you have a source?
Everett Vinzant: Obviously he has not, as your comment is in line with both physics and experience from well-seasoned outdoor people. Heat causes updraft, and this causes a constant supply of fresh air from below into the fire. However, (too) many guys find it difficult to do without burning themselves...and therefore for them (!) the "top burn start" is the easier way to start a fire. But that is not why a "top burn start" is "better"...it is just simpler for some.
www.drtlud.com/?resource=prt15740
Natural Draft- Top Lit Updraft Gasifiers are designed to be lit from the top.
Hear, hear! Always top light a 'gasifier' wood stove!
Nice review. What is the site for the wind screen?
You failed to say if this was the stv-11 or the still-12?
Great review!
thanks for a good video.question: you think during time the bottom on this woodstove can dissolve due to the Amber's
Do you know if this stove fits inside the GLACIER STAINLESS BOTTLE CUP LARGE from GSI and if the Klean Kanteen Bottle you used was the 40 oz version or a different one ? Thanks :)
Hi may I ask what canteen that is? Looks like a great fit with hte toaks. Thanks!
You do the right way
how much heat does that thing kick off when your sitting right there next to it?
If you don't like "Bug Out Bag," a common term amongst people I know is "Ready Bag." It's less doomsday-apocalypse. Cheers.
Thanks for the great info!
is that the "large " toaks stove and the 750ml toaks pot?
How is the soot on mugs/pots?
If you're using titanium it's an easy clean. Even easier if you coat the outside of the Titanium with paint used for grills.
Hi, nice video. Is this the Toaks STV-11 or STV-12? Thank you.
Thank you
Nice video ,I prefer the solo stove lite
Adam Newman please give your reasons. Thx
I've always wondered why you dont light the stove from beneath rather than the top?....as soon as the bottom catches it will rapidly burn upwards.
I've thought that too, people load them up with wood and light the top. Maybe that's the correct way?
It's meant to be lit from the top and burn down.
This allows the smokeless factor.
Google the Toaks stoves and get the correct information. 😊
Could you provide a link for the windscreen you were using in this video? It actually looks better than the one displayed on the Toaks' website. Cheers!
+Stephen O'Brien
www.aliexpress.com/item/Windproof-Plate-Height-15cm-19cm-Ultralight-Ultra-thin-Titanium-Outdoor-Camping-Stove-Wind-Shield-Screen-60cm/32465728526.html
Ensure to get the 19cm version. The 15cm version is too short. I am finding more that it starves the stove so make sure to punch significantly more holes in the bottom section.
+T3Knical5urg3 Brilliant, thank you!
To make the fire starting easier: put the fire gel in the BOTTOM, then load with twigs on top, as you do. Light from the bottom and drop into the stand.
Gerben Van Duyl
These stoves are ment to burn from the top down.
Try placing the tender/fire starter in the bottom and load the fuel wood on top. THEN lift the stove and lite it from the bottom. The 'ash pan' (this is the lower chamber of the 'fire box') is filled with holes and is perfect for putting the heat source (FLAME generated from whichever method) next to the tender.
Indeed the upside down fire method is all the rage these days. Even the manufactures of these types of wood burning stoves try to entice would be buyers to buy their product by “selling” them on the idea that one may overcome basic fire building skills simply by purchasing their stove.
This said, hear is simply a challenge. I dare you to try this method. I submit that it is important to understand the concept of convection and how it relates to fire building.
The gentleman in this video demonstrates the idea very nicely.
Keep in mind the 'PLATFORM' is built into the stove you are using.
ua-cam.com/video/Ma6VqwIuI24/v-deo.html
Thanks for hating bug-out term. I wanted to hate it. ha I just want to live a good life and go camping sometimes.
is this the small or large version?
Large version
I like wood gasification stoves but haven’t found any that we’re lightweight (for any price) until I happened to hear of this TOAKS stove. This is one of the better reviews of the stove that I’ve seen. Thank you for posting this video. By the way the large stove weighs 5.4 ounces and the small stove weighs 4.3 according to REI. One question, do you still use this stove?
After using the stove is there a scortched area underneath?
Very much so. I usually dig that spot out a little and fill it back in afterwards.
Are you still enjoying the TOAKS stove? I'm considering upgrading to one.
+The Emporium Yes it still resides in my "go pack" and is still in my opinion the best option for a wood burning stove. I will likely pick up the smaller version that fits the smaller canteen for an even lighter more portable setup.
I'm undecided between this Toak or UL Compact Design Titanium Emberlit, please give me your advice? You've had experience with emberlit? I do not know what to buy
Without a doubt I would pick the Toaks. Emberlits are just a box to contain your fire really. Toaks actually creates a more efficient fire.
Thank you ver much for your fast answer! I will follow your advice
Outdoor Exploration
Thank you ver much for your fast answer! I will follow your advice
I appreciate the thoughtful review. Here is a general question about these types of stoves: are they allowed in parks that do not allow open fires? I'm unclear what constitutes 'open fire'? Thanks again.....Keefe
Keefe Borden It will vary each park.
Keefe Borden, no forest or park ranger would allow any open flame except directly on mineral soil with no flammable materials near to catch flame, spark, or coal not put "dead out" with sufficient water ready at the fire itself, an on/off stove is the usual requirement or a no fires ban.
This is for USA, elsewhere likely have different laws and regulations.
Here, it is a hefty fine and backcountry rangers for enforcement. The "fire bugs" are arrested.
The problem of these videos showing wood fires on "forest duff" not mineral soil, and inflammable materials so nearby is that a fire can catch immediately or be in the "forest duff" and break out later on.
The number of forest fires should be a "hint" because there is no lightning involved.
If I seem oversensitive on this point, we have perfectly safe backpacking stoves banned with the on/off stove rule already because one fool very likely kicked over his stove in Colorado and, now, we have another forest fire just off the trail at an overnight "wild" camp as so many denizens of the UA-cam say.
There isn't any backpacking stove with an automatic tip over on/off, nevertheless the new fire ban order rule persists. It won't be long, and we can have a "no fires" rule, except at established fire rings, or strictly "no fires" because UA-cam has so many videos depicting "campfires" so big tree branches could catch fire.
I made photos of the steps involved of the actual way to put a gasifier wood stove fire "dead out" over at bplite.com forum on this thread www.bplite.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=4623 because so many participants were interested in the development of wood stoves for backpacking and we had just had that incident in Colorado.
I like Toaks a lot, so I am commenting here.
What is the exact name of this fire gel?
What are the component of it?
The gel is cohglans fire gel. Cheap stuff and works great. I have noticed after long storage it will start to get crusty and is harder to work with but it still works!
Is that the Alcohol wax?
Buy yourself some Vaseline and bees wax. Melt the beeswax, remove from heat (!) , when it starts to thicken, add vaseline to it. Stirr into gel. - Alternatively... soak cotton balls in vaseline, coat soaked balls in beeswax... break open before lighting.
Sound filter drives me crazy
Should of bought the toaks titanium Crossbars.
Keep cooking....;)
Dude, Toakes makes pot stands... they work well...
The only thing I don't like about this stove, is how wobbly it is...
how come you don't carry a piece of wire that is rigid enough to bend into a grill and place it on some rocks make a fire and cook some thing that's what I did find some 1/8 inch thick wire or a little thicker much lighter in the pack and cools faster
In some situations that is fine, but using this stove I use far less fuel, the fire is contained, and the amount of soot produced is far less.
+Outdoor Exploration soot is petroleum based the ASH is good for the ground and you spent to much because you didn't think about what you need I found the wire from some guys doing a drop ceiling I cook hot dogs and other things it works much better than the stove and bend it into a grill for cooking or a spit to stick through a small animal (rabbit) bend a turning handle on it and rotate the game over the fire try the wire trust me !!!
will 750ml toaks cup fit in it ?
tamernator yes it will.
@@friarrodneyburnap4336 No it does not, i just checked.
Small one fits in the toaks 750, he says large fits in the 850
So how is this better than punching a few holes in a soup can?
secondary combustion
i got to 7 minutes in and here you are lighting a wood stove on the ground surrounded by dry leaves.
And I didn't even burn the forest down! Please describe a scenario where this small of a fire that is being attended to from light to the coal being cool where I start a forest fire? Any fire that could potentially bleed out of the stove would be so small my nalgene of water and a bit of tamping would be more than acceptable to deal with the fire. Even if it is knocked over and dumps the small amount of coals the same strategy would be effective because, again, I don't walk away from it.
regardless of what you and your super human powers do or dont do...ANY time there is open flame you make sure that there area is clear of things that can and will burn. You disregarding that with your super human powers only confirms that you have no clue what you are doing in the woods and your lack of considerations for others that enjoy it the way that is is. have fun
Paul Fitzpatrick only takes one ember to burn down a forest.
What's the link for the Ti wind screen??
any 1 else notice this high pitch sound ? my ears hurt
In a pile of leaves, really?
Yeah... So, Esbit is the way to go for the easiest, lightest weight way to boil a cup or so of water.
I've jacked with all kinds of stoves, different fuels.
Esbit. Period.
Wrong usage