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  • @idleunam
    @idleunam 2 місяці тому +72

    1:52:40 omg you can actually see Bianchi's tracker on the map vanish after the hairpin, when he'd obviously gone off the track beforehand at Dunlop, that's chilling

    • @jiwimozz4277
      @jiwimozz4277 2 місяці тому +10

      Same for Sutil's a lap before

    • @idleunam
      @idleunam 2 місяці тому +6

      @jiwimozz4277 I noticed that when I watched it back, what's worse is that Bianchi's name wasn't mentioned for a long time afterwards

  • @willtalley4753
    @willtalley4753 3 місяці тому +116

    Can’t believe it’s been over 10 years now, I remember when I first found out about the accident. Since the Japanese GP always occurs at night where I live (the U.S.), I remember waking up and my dad telling me about that accident. One thing that’s stuck with me throughout the years was the desire for more information regarding Jules health due to the uncertainty at the time, as a kid I didn’t really understand the severity of the accident right away.

  • @Burnout900012
    @Burnout900012 3 місяці тому +102

    Remember this very vividly sadly, when I saw the marshall doing the crane signal at 1:52:40, I knew something had happened, then the long shot of the Sauber garage. (FOM at this moment probably had no idea what to show due to the accident) then you see "BIA" going down the order at the bottom of the screen, then you knew it was serious whatever happened at that corner.
    Insane to think its 10 years, RIP Jules.

    • @hexgraphica
      @hexgraphica 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Burnout900012 as I was watching it then, a few seconds earlier than this I was thinking "why isn't the safety car out?"

  • @Takhar7
    @Takhar7 2 місяці тому +28

    1:58:40 - the production director will have known about the Bianchi incident far before the commentators did. That's why he's asked for shots of the Bianchi garage. Gosh, what a tragedy.

  • @TheJokerit19
    @TheJokerit19 3 місяці тому +42

    I'm surprised how slow they were to notice Bianchi's off.
    Yes, his car was out of sight in the world feed coverage, but they should've quickly noticed the word 'stop' in where his S1 times appeared & his disappearance from the driver tracker.

    • @christiantracey915
      @christiantracey915 2 місяці тому +11

      i suppose its hard to both speculate on him when there wasn't a clear visual, that or they had word and can't say anything until there's official info.

    • @TheJokerit19
      @TheJokerit19 2 місяці тому

      @@christiantracey915 Good point

  • @jraybay
    @jraybay 3 місяці тому +157

    Everything about this race weekend felt off from the start. Obviously no one predicted a fatality but for anyone who's watched racing for a long time, that classic 'uneasy' feeling in your stomach was there the whole time and I remember barely celebrating Lewis's win. Martin Brundle also had some eery foreshadowing and unfortunately we saw what unfolded.

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 3 місяці тому +1

      Ferrari struggle massively in rain

    • @dantheracer16
      @dantheracer16 3 місяці тому +14

      Couldn't agree more. I remember at the start of that weekend when they gave the warning about the severe weather I also had this 'hunch' that something wasn't quite right and that something could happen that weekend. I've never hated being right more in my life. But the FIA could have avoided this had they started the race earlier like many in the paddock asked and wanted.

    • @Inky.64
      @Inky.64 3 місяці тому +4

      The lack of information we have on the crash genuinely unnerves me tbh
      Like, I know I'm probably overthinking it but I can't help but feel *somethings* being covered up about it

    • @dantheracer16
      @dantheracer16 3 місяці тому +10

      @@Inky.64 Well unfortunately what a lot of people forget and choose to ignore is that Jules Bianchi was speeding under double waved yellows and was the reason he ended up having his accident.
      I love Jules Bianchi and I always have but I'll never understand why he was pushing so hard while running P15 or 16 whatever it was.
      The next problem was that the FIA with Charlie Whiting and FOM with Bernie Ecclestone had blood on their hands the days after the incident because they both had the power to start the race earlier where it could have been done in the best conditions of the day but wanted to stick to the original timeslot to maximise TV Viewings in Europe (moreso Bernie than Charlie) it was just a messy weekend unfortunately.

    • @Takhar7
      @Takhar7 2 місяці тому

      Could you remind me of what Martin Brundle said?

  • @mikulitsi1819
    @mikulitsi1819 3 місяці тому +36

    Over 10 years already... Damn time flies

  • @lancealvarez1009
    @lancealvarez1009 3 місяці тому +42

    I remember watching that live on bbc, I immediately knew something was really off, the coverage ended so abruptly after the podium and no usual bbc montage or analysis

    • @Scorpio19110
      @Scorpio19110 2 місяці тому +4

      I thought the coverage was cut short by our broadcaster because of scheduling, didn’t know it was for everyone

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 3 місяці тому +85

    I remember watching the BBC TV coverage of this race. I felt a sense of foreboding when I saw the medical crews by the recovery vehicle and Bianchi was listed as out, but not mentioning him. I remember they were so preoccupied about Adrian Sutil that they didn't seem to notice Bianchi not circulating. I was getting more and more concerned, thinking "why aren't they discussing Jules Bianchi??"
    I haven't heard the 5 Live commentary until now, and it seems to reflect the same thoughts after Jules crashed into the JCB

    • @lancealvarez1009
      @lancealvarez1009 2 місяці тому +5

      I remember the BBC Tv coverage ended so abrubtly, no montage like they usually do, so I knew something was off

    • @JoanseCastillo
      @JoanseCastillo 2 місяці тому +3

      On the latinamerican broadcast they actually mentioned that the gps data showed Bianchi on the crash site way before the safety car and they kept mentioning that there was no data for Jules anywhere in the track

    • @zisist5493
      @zisist5493 2 місяці тому

      they were sleeping as usual

  • @sanfordcurtis8242
    @sanfordcurtis8242 3 місяці тому +13

    I never watched this race live. I’d just moved back to Uni the day before and had no WiFi yet. I checked my phone upon waking up on Sunday morning and Jules was the No 1 person trending on Twitter, but not for good reasons. RIP Jules

  • @BurnBot_TV
    @BurnBot_TV 3 місяці тому +181

    Saw this race live on SkySports. Truly horrifying day. Worst part is we had warning crashes prior to this.
    EDIT: seems I stirred a hornets' nest. Lemme clarify, I mean leading up to the events of Suzuka _2014_ there were accidents. 1994 was not exactly recent, but I can see where y'all got the idea.

    • @TheJokerit19
      @TheJokerit19 3 місяці тому

      & more than a few over the years, with the most recent situations of a recovery vehicle only being covered by localized yellows happening at Hockenheimring only 2+ months earlier & the first on the same circuit in coincidently similar conditions & at Dunlop Curve with Brundle, some 20 years prior, so FIA simply played with safety regarding recovery vehicles for too long, so the fatal 2014 accident was simply a result of this long-time thing.

    • @BurnBot_TV
      @BurnBot_TV 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TheJokerit19 I meant within 2014.

    • @seb99342
      @seb99342 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@BurnBot_TV+VSC should have been introduced in 2008 after Kubica's incident in 2007

    • @PEPSIMaxMusic
      @PEPSIMaxMusic 2 місяці тому +1

      Brundle hitting a marshal in 1994 should have been the warning calk they needed, but of course they didn't change anything until someone actually died.

    • @TheJokerit19
      @TheJokerit19 2 місяці тому +1

      @@PEPSIMaxMusic The very first close-call occasion should've indeed already led to a change in approach instead of leaving everything up to chance for 20 years, which was always going to fail eventually, given people can't be fully lucky forever.

  • @Eggplant92
    @Eggplant92 2 місяці тому +6

    FOM definitely knew immediately of the severity of the incident, we never got to see the camera angle used at 1:50:59 a single other time (top left, cutting to Sutil going off)

  • @Takhar7
    @Takhar7 2 місяці тому +4

    A clearer version of this race was uploaded on Dailymotion for several years, and seeing Biachni's GPS tracker just completely disappear is still as haunting now as it was back then.

  • @thomasconway95
    @thomasconway95 3 місяці тому +85

    Incredible reporting from Jennie on the Bianchi incident. Never heard the 5 live comms before. Thanks for this.

    • @zisist5493
      @zisist5493 2 місяці тому +8

      this easaly the worst commentation ive seen in f1 history, something was clearly going on in the crash scene and they were talking about Button

    • @thomasconway95
      @thomasconway95 2 місяці тому +1

      @@zisist5493 easy for you to say with the benefit of hindsight

    • @Baguenaudeur
      @Baguenaudeur 2 місяці тому +1

      @@thomasconway95 Not really, in my country's coverage they immediately noticed something was wrong with Bianchi as his name dropped from the drivers list. It's actually insane the British commentators didn't pick that up at all.

  • @stonexl
    @stonexl 2 місяці тому +7

    Utterly insane how a local yellow was an acceptable situation to have recovery equipment and marshalls out on a live track just 10 years ago. It's the sort of thing you would've expected to be outlawed in like the 70s.

  • @strathruncie
    @strathruncie 3 місяці тому +23

    Pierre Gasly was understandably quick to remind everyone of this after his own close encounter with a Suzuka tractor. And even I entertained the dark thought that for all we knew, it may as well have been the same damn one. 😬

    • @Yukino-014
      @Yukino-014 2 місяці тому

      I watched Gasly's POV in that race and the amount of similarities between that close call and Bianchi's crash were as surreal as they were frightening. The damn truck was also *on the tarmac* in that occasion, while Gasly was speeding to catch the SC queue, and he missed it by about a car's width.

  • @PEPSIMaxMusic
    @PEPSIMaxMusic 2 місяці тому +5

    I remember watching this live and seing Bianchi's name suddenly slide down the order (as a Marussia fan, I always kept track of both drivers), and being sad that he potentially crashed. I didnt know it was as bad as it was untill seing it on the news at school the next day. Such a devistating race :(.

  • @Scorpio19110
    @Scorpio19110 2 місяці тому +15

    Watching Bianchi’s accident unfold, the whole time I was thinking something happened to Sutil, then the “ambulance on track” banner was shown, thinking something happened to him, it was much later when it turned out Bianchi crashed and maybe the ambulance was for him. The rest, we all know…

    • @lancealvarez1009
      @lancealvarez1009 2 місяці тому +4

      Only now have I realised there was a ambulance on track notification by race control, I never knew that till now which makes what happened even more sadder and haunting

  • @samanthacoupe6613
    @samanthacoupe6613 2 місяці тому +6

    I was 10 when this happened, and more than anything I was excited going into the race that my parents let me get up early and watch the race live, at 4 or 5 in the morning (particularly rare as BBC often couldnt show those early races live). I particularly adored wet races, and my favourite driver was winning the race and the championship. But then, with the Sutil crash, I noticed Bianchi fall down the order and retire, and I was sure something with up. I figured he was off out of view at Dunlop where Sutil crashed, confirmed when his name flashed up on the graphic there. I didnt know what had happened - I thought maybe he'd gone off at 130R and somehow ended up down the hill - but I knew it wasnt good. Still, I didn't expect it to be as bad as it was and i held out hope until he passed, which hit me hard.

    • @artekfin
      @artekfin 27 днів тому

      I feel you. I was 8 and it came right in the morning, I believe it was 9 am here and I had just woken up and watched the race while eating breakfast. I didn't really think of it much back then because my consentration was on Räikkönen and Bottas, since I'm a Finn, but I noticed the Sutil crash and moments later saw Bianchi falling in the order too. Of course the 8 year old me didn't really pay attention to what had just happened, but after the race stopped, I didn't really understand the situation until my father explained to me that the crash had been as serious as it was. Now 10 years later I think I finally get what happened that day...😢

  • @hexgraphica
    @hexgraphica 3 місяці тому +39

    It's strange how the positioning system keeps Adrian and Jules running at dry pace for some time after they crash, and let both markers disappear right after the hairpin.
    It must be to prevent situations when the live comment says a driver appears to be out but it's a timing malfunction

    • @StefMeister2011
      @StefMeister2011  3 місяці тому +41

      I believe it's because at the time the driver tracker used the timing mini sectors to track the cars rather than actual GPS data. So if a car went off there marker on the tracker would continue to move until they failed to be detected by the next timing sector a few seconds after the system expected them to go past it.

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 3 місяці тому +3

      @@StefMeister2011 And prior to the red flag, we almost had 4 DNFs, which was Hulkenberg
      His car was shut down after he exit the pit lane. Because he had going out, he will be force to retire the race.

    • @nathanturner5186
      @nathanturner5186 3 місяці тому +4

      @@StefMeister2011I remember vividly, the official F1 app live timing, had the dots tracking the cars in live action. I saw SUT stopped. And then BIAs dot stop a short while after. Without even seeing the pictures I knew something bad had happened. As time went on and nobody even mentioned Sutil let alone Bianchi on the TV coverage. That feeling is stuck with me even now, dread, sadness and confusion. It was only after the race the BBC tv interview with Adrian in the pen, he described what I had assumed the hour earlier. I know the FIA has the onboard and I’m sure they’ll never release it, but Button went through on full wets just a few moments before (or maybe just after) Sutil did, and almost dropped it. Bianchi was on inters (awful call from Marussia the Pirelli inters are a joke), it’s no surprise he had no grip. 10 years later and that Pirelli inter is still godawful.

  • @SURGASURGE12
    @SURGASURGE12 3 місяці тому +8

    Absolutely wild to think that it's already been 10 years since this race. The first fatality I had witnessed watching a race live.
    IIRC, at the time I remember thinking why they kept showing Jules' graphic when they cut to the shot of the stricken Sauber. I initially thought it was an error. And then when everyone suddenly became concerned and coverage cut away quickly, I realised this was bad.

  • @DEVESHKANAKARAO800
    @DEVESHKANAKARAO800 Місяць тому +1

    RIP Jules. You deserved so much more. Big fan of your Godson, and I am sure he'll live your dream and go on to win the World Championship in the Ferrari.

  • @Dan_Blick1986
    @Dan_Blick1986 13 днів тому

    Dark day for Formula 1. Over 10 years ago but yet remember the race and what happened very vividly. I remember that once the live coverage on Sky Sports ended and they knew the seriousness of what had happened, they pulled all repeats and any old Grand Prix coverage on the channel for the rest of the day, putting on their filler documentaries. I also recall checking the EPG later that day before sitting down to watch the race and wondering why that was the case and thought it was a bit odd, unaware of what had happened. Jules Bianci - gone, but never forgotten ❤

  • @Sportfan-w6u
    @Sportfan-w6u 3 місяці тому +45

    RIP jules bianchi. Always in our ❤

  • @NB46_LetsPlays
    @NB46_LetsPlays 2 місяці тому +4

    A dark day for the world of Motorsport

  • @flintey360
    @flintey360 3 місяці тому +4

    I remember that morning like it was yesterday, honestly that whole race felt so off and weird.

  • @julianbeallion
    @julianbeallion 2 місяці тому +1

    We need more of this from other races

  • @987CARTOONS
    @987CARTOONS 3 місяці тому +27

    F1 MANAGEMENT PLEASE DONT TAKE THIS DOWN 🙏

    • @danielguimera12
      @danielguimera12 3 місяці тому +1

      then download it like i did :)

    • @987CARTOONS
      @987CARTOONS 3 місяці тому

      @danielguimera12 right now I can't 😭

  • @tunovettel7
    @tunovettel7 3 місяці тому +11

    Jules Bianchi🥺😭

  • @carlitosjuarez18
    @carlitosjuarez18 2 місяці тому +11

    1:52:30 interesting footage, we can see in the Ericcson onboard the moment after the crash

    • @Logoooo
      @Logoooo 2 місяці тому

      and not reducing speed at all

  • @cameronchesters5300
    @cameronchesters5300 Місяць тому

    I will always remember watching this live with my mum, and i said that it looked like there was smoke coming from the tractor picking up Sutil's car, not knowing at that point that was Bianchi's car causing it.....haunts me to this day

  • @LeGezallet
    @LeGezallet 2 місяці тому +1

    OMG. Sutil was 0.5 seconds behind Bianchi when Adrian lost control. Symbolic moment

  • @luuduonghy659
    @luuduonghy659 3 місяці тому +4

    4 DNF in this race:
    Fernando Alonso(Retire due to car failure)
    Adrian Sutil and Jules Bianchi(Retire due to incident)
    Nico Hulkenberg(Retire due to car failure, because he did escape the pit lane but could not get the car going, he were force to retired from the race if the race was able to restart).

    • @f1david995
      @f1david995 3 місяці тому

      But the official result says Hulkenberg finished in 8th place

    • @luuduonghy659
      @luuduonghy659 3 місяці тому

      @@f1david995 Should the race being restart, Hulk will be count as "DNF", since prior to red flag, his car had left the pit lane but couldn't move.

  • @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512
    @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 2 місяці тому +1

    Multiview in around 2014 are different than today

  • @PEPSIMaxMusic
    @PEPSIMaxMusic 2 місяці тому +1

    The Formula E commentary duo were an F1 duo as well? And I thought thatnwith the drivers, they already had enough people from F1 lol.

  • @OrgulloVerdinegro
    @OrgulloVerdinegro 3 місяці тому +10

    Hey, how do you get access to and recover the videos? I'm interested in getting some onboards from Jaime Alguersuari

  • @carlitosjuarez18
    @carlitosjuarez18 2 місяці тому +2

    1:52:42 with a strange delay the Jules car disappear from the map

  • @matthewfontanez8646
    @matthewfontanez8646 Місяць тому +1

    1:15

  • @robertwittkopf3756
    @robertwittkopf3756 2 місяці тому

    why the hell are both gps markers from sutil and bianchi move on for a few more turns? 🤔

    • @StefMeister2011
      @StefMeister2011  2 місяці тому +4

      Because they weren't using GPS for the driver tracker at the time. They were using the timing loops placed every few hundred metres around the circuit & estimating when cars would arrive at each loop to create the motion on the map between each one.
      It's why sometimes you may see a car on the map jump forward a bit as it arrived as the next timing loop before it was expected. And why cars that stopped or crashed continue moving for a bit until they fail to pass the next timing loop.

  • @Bananananananannananananna
    @Bananananananannananananna 3 місяці тому

    Forza jules 💔 this makes me wanna cry

  • @gabrielsabino7485
    @gabrielsabino7485 3 місяці тому +4

    16:15 Bianchi 😢

  • @WezMan444
    @WezMan444 3 місяці тому +1

    Do you have any other race audio from 5 live? I’m always on the look out since there’s no official archive.

  • @BlitzedRacing
    @BlitzedRacing 2 місяці тому

    Could you do more of these full length races...

  • @DariXon.
    @DariXon. 3 місяці тому

    RIP 🕊️ Jules

  • @punch845
    @punch845 2 місяці тому

    1:50:27 Sutil overtakes Bianchi and crashes, one lap later Bianchi crashes at the same point, very interesting.

  • @alc-d4163
    @alc-d4163 3 місяці тому +2

    Forza Jules

  • @BDSFormula1
    @BDSFormula1 3 місяці тому +4

    4 days after this race, my brother was born. I was very young when i saw this, but looking back on this race gives me second hand trauma.
    #ForzaJules 2:01:48

  • @RosarioSannino
    @RosarioSannino 2 місяці тому +1

    Bianchi accident at 1:52:27 😓

  • @jj4485-o5o
    @jj4485-o5o 2 місяці тому

    Jesus Christ what a horrible day that was. Absolutely awful, the feelings i felt after that race came back for a minute and it made me want to throw up. I never want to witness something like that again.

  • @yinyang5162
    @yinyang5162 Місяць тому

    how the hell the commentators just don't notice...

  • @MSATVRESMİ
    @MSATVRESMİ 3 місяці тому +1

    I wonder if Korea will come to Korea in 2010?

  • @itswais77
    @itswais77 2 місяці тому

    1:52:33 she knows….

  • @jamiewebber1903
    @jamiewebber1903 3 місяці тому

    Great video
    RIP BIA

  • @konepe1653
    @konepe1653 3 місяці тому +2

    So for how long this is going to be up lol?

  • @omfaba11
    @omfaba11 2 місяці тому +1

    an unbelievable mistake why not throw sc right after sutil's incidet

    • @jortm4075
      @jortm4075 2 місяці тому

      cranes on track used to be normal during a race.

  • @bebolino100
    @bebolino100 3 місяці тому +3

    1:50:20

  • @laszlocarreidas9548
    @laszlocarreidas9548 2 місяці тому +1

    These commentors so unprofessional, OMG

  • @BlueCapcutofficialPlays
    @BlueCapcutofficialPlays 3 місяці тому +3

    Bianchi

  • @carlosargaez4195
    @carlosargaez4195 2 місяці тому +1

    ¡¡¡JULES BIANCHI ES ETERNO!!!

  • @christiantracey915
    @christiantracey915 2 місяці тому +1

    the frustration is, not the fact there was a crane on the circuit, but that wet weather racing is the fallguy for the accident.
    This accident made me stop watching F1 for about 3 years too

    • @Scorpio19110
      @Scorpio19110 2 місяці тому +1

      The three years you talk about weren’t much spectacular bar Rosberg winning the title and Hamilton’s misfortune at Sepang, so you didn’t miss much
      Edit: I forgot Verstappen’s first win

    • @AAARREUUUGHHHH
      @AAARREUUUGHHHH 2 місяці тому

      Yup. The blame the weather instead of the management of the race. They blame anyone but themselves.

  • @CycloneSakura
    @CycloneSakura 2 місяці тому

    They should not have run this race, in the midst of a Typhoon, Phanfone to be exact.

  • @sametozkan9175
    @sametozkan9175 3 місяці тому +9

    I wish Alexander Rossi should have been replaced Bianchi for that weekend 😢

    • @Dolek135
      @Dolek135 3 місяці тому +16

      Why would he though?

    • @LFGamer2004
      @LFGamer2004 3 місяці тому +14

      I just wished this race was canceled!

    • @Bananananananannananananna
      @Bananananananannananananna 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LFGamer2004or atleast red flagged when the conditions got too wet. They left the cars out for way too long.

    • @stevelewis1514
      @stevelewis1514 3 місяці тому +7

      @@Bananananananannananananna Many of the drivers said conditions at the end were actually not too bad & that they had actually been worse in terms of visibility & standing water when the race was initially started.
      It had started raining harder but it wasn't that bad & grip was apparently fine if you were on a full wet & not too bad on inters if you stayed on the drier line. The problem which caught out Sutil & then Jules was that offline at Dunlop there was some standing water & if you put a wheel onto it with worn inters you aquaplaned. If you watch the onboard feed at 1:47:53 Magnussed on old inters does this & nearly loses it and then a lap later on full wets Ericsson does the same thing & was fine.
      Had both Sutil & Bianchi been on full wets it's unlikely either would have gone off and given how everyone likely woudl have made the switch to full wets over the next 2-3 laps I think the race woudl have been able to finish without issue as again most drivers were of the view conditions were actually not too bad when interviewed by sky after the race.

    • @lancealvarez1009
      @lancealvarez1009 2 місяці тому

      @@Bananananananannananananna The bigger issue was not calling a safety car straight away, that resulted in the digger being on the track when no safety car and pace neutralised, that ended up being what made the incident fatal

  • @316CactusJack
    @316CactusJack 3 місяці тому +8

    Shame Jack Nicholls turned out to be a wrong un

    • @elsviec
      @elsviec 3 місяці тому

      I MISS HIM

    • @slipstreamhog3027
      @slipstreamhog3027 3 місяці тому +1

      not surprised one bit he sounds like one

  • @Christopher77-e7k
    @Christopher77-e7k 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you SteifMeister2011 for this video, I have the one from the pitlane stream from Japan also in French version. possible to chat in private message?