The Diablo 4 Developer Team is huge and over the recent Seasons they had to learn a lot. I am glad we finally have the chance to test these Seasons on the PTR! Hopefully our Feedback help and we will get a BANGER Season 5! @BellularNews made a very good video here. Original Video: ua-cam.com/video/BvejKi4FCkg/v-deo.html Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:04 Season 5 in danger 06:11 Season 4 10:10 PTR Season 5 21:40 Boss Fight Infernal Horde 28:09 Buffs & Nerfs - Personal opinions on the game 35:06 Vessel of Hatred & Huge D4 Dev Team All my Builds for Season 4 & 5 (I always try to keep it up to date): d4builds.gg/rob2628/builds/
i like s4 but skipped s3, so as i will skip s5. its ridiculous to think they can let us grind for years to find an uber when a season only lasts 3 month. i hate the idea of seasons but i like diablo. im born 1985 and played d1 and d2. either stop the season system and let us grind for unlimited paragorn and increase lvl cap to 200… then you can let us grind forever for an uber unique… or if you stick to seasons then give us feasible ways to get any uber in each season. period
i duno the s5 endgame mechanic that lookslike a helltide with an old recolored diablo boss is just not my cup of tea xD aint buying it and only 1 new class as content to play yea no
Exactly. Even if there were super rare crafting materials or masterworking or tempering runes that were tradable. But it's 2024. Open world but closed game play loop. Debt is money. Boys are girls. D4 is now a yearly expansion milk fest like call of duty and EA sports.
@@toast1211 and "smart" loot.... finding something that makes you want to start a completely new character is essentially non-existent, who's stupid genius idea was this?
The problem we have with class balance is they're trying nerf skills that are the most popular while trying to buff skills that are not so popular, but we still end up with less diversity overall due to them going from one extreme to another with balance , especially due to barbs continuing to get buffs in most skills, since their idea was to bring all the classes up to barbs level but they keep missing the mark.
@@toast1211 being a gamer doesn't automatically mean you know what a good game is. I think they are indeed casual players but don't have a good understanding for their game.
this philosophy never worked and never will, it's cool to think it should, but imagine, if all builds were s+ tier, the game would be boring af - what you really need is class balance. each class with even a single build in s+, the rest, tiered accordingly.
@@endorphinADMIN thats completely wrong, giving the player more choice IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT ANSWER. what if i dont like any classes? Any builds? the game sucks then end of story, all builds, all possibilities should be good that way players can actually do anything they want and not play fotm, fotm is trash, (btw you are right about class balance 100%) i didnt originally read your balance suggestion but the difference between bottom and top possibilites should never be insanely immense
@@endorphinADMINWhat is needed is the ability to make any build S+ tier and viable so you can theory craft and it’s not just cookie cutter builds you want to see a player going ham and be like wtf are you building not oh whirlwind bard bash barb which are the best build in the game head and shoulders above anything any other class can build one thing is on Druid let us use a weapon and totem and on sorc a book and weapon it’s time already and still won’t make them op
@endorphinADMIN I don't see why it would make the game "boring." If you can play your favorite on everyclass while each one of them being S or S+ Tier, then you'll have a ton of fun. Eitherway its just the way it's said in the video, that "So we can all have fun," that's important. I had no choice playing the windshear build on my druid before the patch where pulverize got buffed and all, because it was the only decent build out there for druid. Before that, I had a lot of fun on the shred build but wasn't strong enough to push the pit sadly, so there stopped the fun really.
Paladin is the only class that makes sense in the expansion. The new zone in the expansion is Nahuntu, the entire lore of the zone was that zakarum had Nahuntu as their seat of power and they had Paladins weeding out corruption in the area. Mephesto corrupted the Zakarum and filled the zone with demons leading to the zones conflict. The fact that Rod Ferguson saying paladin didnt fit into the theme it made me rage a little bit.
Paladin's orders exist everywhere. The seat of power is Travincal, their influence expanded through Kehjistan to Nahantu. They are Zakarumites, Zakarum is simply their faith/order, its not a place. It's D3's Witch Doctors who comes from Nahantu, D2's Paladin are WESTMARCH knights... they are from another CONTINENT, like Akkarat himself. What were you raging about? You dont know anything, just paraphrasing reddit/twitter/youtubers sentiment.
@@kahaneck i never said they didnt exist everywhere and I wasn't raging. Diablo lore has nahuntu as a "seat of power" for zakarum. My argument is that when rod Ferguson said that paladins didnt fit into nahuntu which is why they decided to not do paladins in the expansion. The whole story about the zone is that mephesto corrupted the Zakarum order in the area. Paladins probably fit best with the lore if Nahuntu, certainly they fit better than a brand new class with no established lore in the area.
It's just the end-game that is boring. Once you're geared and have your ubers, there's nothing left outside of pits or praying for GA gear that's an upgrade to your current stuff. The combat is good, but a lot of aspects of the game are still pretty rough.
100% True ive been screaming this out since the beginning of D4. They need to turn D4 into a MMOARPG. Need different variety of content. Its blizzard take a god dam look at World of Warcraft endgame.
Well this is true for those who play A LOT and in groups. Casuals might never find Ubers during seasons. So how to please both? First of , fix the balance and work on endgame
All these talks about endgame makes me even more sad about lost ark. That game could've been... THE GOD of ARPGS.. but greed got in the way, similar to archage...Sad
The problem with the Sorc nerfs is simple. They aren’t doing massive damage to start with. The “change” to ice armor, given the state of the class in the first place, makes no sense. The class already has to choose between survivability and damage, but scaling in damage doesn’t add up. That being said tho I still love the class. The skills and powers are fun to level with, and the effects are cool.
I genuinely wish more people were privy to how out of touch these higher popular content creators(NOT talking about Rob to be clear) who merely only check in when it's convenient for them to farm hate engagement, actually are. Revisionist history is a very real thing. When the original beta shipped, MOST of the sentiment around the game was largely positive (bc ppl thought it was a great STARTING point to build on). Launch was also largely received overwhelmingly positive. It wasn't until those patch notes dropped for season 1 where it ALL fell off a cliff. the season of the nerf. where the highlight was Rods colonoscopy joke. This guy said with a straight face that season 2 was a miss. How credible is anything past that point when you don't even have the community sentiment accurate? It's the same thing with Asmon when he swears through his teeth that the devs have listened to literally NOTHING...until season 4. lol. Like there's NOTHING wrong with not keeping in touch with something you don't like. Literally nothing. But don't come around pretending like you have a finger on the pulse whenever you decide it's convenient for you to farm engagement. You talk to damn near anyone that keeps up with D4. In one year the sentiment is fairly consistent. Even team, nothing but roses. Keep up the good work. Odd team...what in the actual fuck are you doing over there? lol.
Yes that's true when that guy said season 2 was a miss I just stopped taking anything he said seriously. Season 2 was great. I bet he will also be an advocate of just getting any piece of gear you want with a currency like, "you want a triple GA item with what ever affix you want" just do 1 helltide and its yours that's what kind of player mindset he gives me. All reward no effort needed.
My god, I can't stand the majority of these type of content "creators". The don't have a clue what is going on with the game, but act like they do, and their audience of millions of NPCs just take everything that comes out of their dumb mouth as gospel, then argue online sounding just as clueless as the streamer they simp over. Asmon is a prime example. The dude is funking clueless, and needs to stick to wow and stealing other people's hard work, like a pathetic leech he is, cause he knows f-k all about everything else in life.
I'd kind of like that if an uber dropped while you were doing group play that you could trade it to someone who was in group with you when it dropped. I play with a friend quite a bit and of the 4 ubers we've both gotten, all but one of them was something that the other one wanted, it was the right uber but dropped for the wrong person.
Atm. season 5 seems to me like a mid season patch. Pretty nice things tho, but nothing to be exited for. But well... They got a month left. Lets see. And if its just ok, ill be fine with 1-2 lvl 100 HC chars and wait for the new expansion.
Have a “root” of the whisper tree spawn in each zone so that I don’t have to bounce through load screens. I’d rather run to that “root” and submit. I could even map out sequence of whispers this way.
Belular doesn’t even play D4 - give me a break. By the way I love you Rob - your WW barb build took me from 115 on my heartseeker rogue to a 131 on my WW barb. 100% because of you! And maybe a little skill. But mostly you. PLEASE go ham next season with WW. ❤
Disagree on buff/nerf debate. The gap is too large between classes, not sure if its a bias making you think this way because lets be honest, if it was a case of buffing classes up it would be 4/6 classes being buffed up to barbarian/rogue level. Which seems counter intuitive. Bring damage numbers down, buff the skill tree and stop trying to patch issues with aspects. I also personally think some unique effects need to be moved to the paragon boards to make them more exciting and interesting and transformative for specific builds
So you just want guaranteed unique aspects which can be required in paragon. No that's a terrible idea as if you can make any op build you want with just paragon nodes will kill retention as players will be finished with builds too quickly and get bored.
@@barrymacdonald3439 90% of uniques aren't worth using. Nor are they hard to get. By the time I hit 100 and get all my paragon points for this "op" system I've got 4-5 copies of every class unique sitting in my stash. Opportunity cost is a thing, getting that unique effect on your paragon board would come at the cost of whatever paragon you're replacing. It wouldn't make anyone op, nor would your build be finished any sooner. You could give necros black rivers effect for free AND keep the replacement paragon. Corpse explosion would still be trash, but at least it wouldn't be aids to play.
@@barrymacdonald3439 he said "some" and to be fair retention is already bad because builds are finished too quickly and you get bored. lvl 100 in 1-3 sessions...
@mikemcqueen9899 hey at least you guys can read. Some unique not all. The legendary nodes in the paragon board are so low impact this would change that and put some power back into the classes that need it at their core. New aspects doesn't fix the problem or buffing numbers
The thing about carry over to the next run is it totally invalidates the lesser chest rewards, and removes some of the incentive to do the best you can on the highest teir you can in order to get the big box. That being said the big box needs to be an amazing reward, not three garbage items
The PTR for season 5 was so buggy because it was played in a version of the game that was from before Season of the Construct went live. If you went into the wardrobe they had placeholder assets for transmogs that released during that season.
Makes me wonder if there's some kind of fundamental flaw in the way they develop things. It's like the team that just had finished up season 3 took that build of the game and started building season 5 right on top of it. So all the hot fixes that were released throughout season 3, to fix all the bugs with it, plus all the changes with season 4, plus all the hot fixes with season 4, none of that is reflected in the season 5 PTR build. Do I know that's actually the case? No, but your comment makes me think that could be what is going on and why we are seeing so many fucking bugs all over the place that were previously squished in the live game by the way
@@d4mephisto also probably why they were unable to add in things like profane mindcages, seasonal elixirs and the iron wolf questline. really lends credence to the theory that there's one dev team for odd seasons and another for even-numbered seasons.
@@nerf_t yep. And even though rod Ferguson has in a recent interview refuted that idea, that could just be public relations speak. Like the actual reality could be. They still have these two teams, where one is retarded and the other is like okay, but rod is just trying to spin things and make us think that's not the case. It's almost like we know too much and that's a problem for them lol
Well he's a fat white guy who plays a lot of Destiny 2. He has terrible taste when it comes to almost everything in life. I've read enough of his inane articles to determine that's the case with him. He also was writing things at the launch of D4, saying things like seasons shouldn't exist, characters should never need to be re-created or re-leveled up, and that leveling should take a long time because you should only ever have to do it once for your main character, blah blah blah. He legit was expecting Diablo 4 leveling and character progression to be just like in an MMO. That is where Paul has always been wrong. D4 is not an MMO and is nothing like an MMO. It has a few MMO elements, but that's it. The actual true beating heart and soul of an MMO, those elements are not inside Diablo 4. Because it's an ARPG. We can all be glad that Paul has mostly shut up about the game and just let it be. We're all better off for that. He's a moron lol.
@@jordan_goes_in4378 who tf made you the boss here? He won't shut up about it, I never said he's bad or anything, not trying to offend your boyfriend, every Diablo video of his devolves into the same nothing non argument
I don't understand why the devs are so scared to give us good loot rewards for the endgame content. Pits are just a grind for upgrading gear. They are more fun than nightmares for sure but it should have a lot higher chance for uniques and GA items to drop the higher you go imo. It doesn't look like season 5 will change any of this either. The new mode looks trash to me.
Speaking of the treadmill. People actually like treadmill mechanics. Go into any modern gym and you’ll see folks running on them…when they can run outside for free. (Sure you can make a case for safety, but isn’t that another conversation entirely?)
Treadmills are generally the lesser evil in quest for a reward. Contolled weather, speed, incline and no interruptions in my quest to to have moderately decent hearthealth. Ubers aren't a 'reward' they're just a dophamine hit. One you shouldn't look for if you don't enjoy the process.
they could change the renown to a reputation system with the mercenaries, and like certain classes have easier access to certain mercenaries, and other classes have to grind a bit to get that mercenary
The quest line I thought was excellent, in its leveling potential, the amount of loot that dropped, and how many elites were present. Also, you got the special amulet at the end. The event itself needs to be way better.
I want the ability to change armor color on mounts, backpack type stuff also maybe weapons so more variety. I have the mount armor sets on a few character armor sets that are matching but look stupid when you cant change the mount armor color but you can on the character. even if they made it match to the color picked the characters armor
Diablo IV's main problem is that it's boring. Grinding the same limited pool of content over and over again isn't fun, and the only people who would enjoy it are hardcore loot gambling addicts... I say "would" because D4 loot sucks ass, so its hard for me to see how it would satisfy anyone. With D2, you'd play through the campaign, and then either play the same campaign again with a new character or on a higher difficulty level. This works because the progression through the campaign naturally provides variety and a constant goal to work towards (a goal that isn't something meaningless like grind 10,000 seasonal reputation points or whatever), while the campaign depth is deep enough that you don't feel like you are mindlessly repeating the same content. What does D4 do? It throttles the absolute shit out of your progression if you want to play the campaign (you can hit the lvl 50 soft cap easily just by playing through the 1st chapter), taking the fun out of the experience. Or you can skip the campaign and lock yourself into a tiny amount of repetitive and lackluster content... man, I sure do love sitting in one place farming 500 helltide bosses in a row. Or the same 4 boring, grindy Pit bosses again and again and again... This is probably the wrong audience for this comment, but fuck, Path of Exile figured out how to do it right years ago.
@rob2628 - The reason we were hoping for something "Different" is that other ARPG's like Lost Ark managed to figure out how to do it WITHOUT resetting. If you've never played it, this is what some of the "quality of life" things they offered that us "dads" were hoping D4 would bring: 1. Campaign skip after you've done the campaign once - they ACTUALLY did it. This was a W. 2. The Ability to boost your next ALT - Diablo still wants you to spend HOURS doing repetitive stuff. This season it was the meta of making a new character, and running straight to helltide hoping others would join for boss fight. then sit there for 2 hours, before you could run capstone solo. Boring AF waste of time 3. NO RESETTING - Lost Ark adds "horizontal" things to do and new bosses every big patch. They also sometimes raise the max level so you have something to grind towards. Why does diablo cap at 100? I have an 8-5 job with 3 kids and a wife and stuff to do around home and I managed to get 4 characters this season to 100. That should not be possible. The reason everyone wants resets is because of bad game design. D2/D2R has seasons, but it more fun running a character in that because it is MONUMENTALLY harder to get to 99. You feel like you always have something do to. In D4, I ran out of things to do. I beat 100 Pits (no incentive to push that further), I beat all tormented bosses, beat lilith, ran helltides 1098701237410938 times, got many uber uniques. So naturally I could use a new season. But our hope was that it was going to have SO MUCH to do, that we didn't want resets. So D4 is so bad with content, we sorta need seasons.
Pits dungeons need higher gold reward. Also farming mats to spawn Ubers is somewhat tedious since you have to rejoin another server to keep farming them.
I’m hoping the Spiritborn class will be a cross between Rogue and Sorc. It would be insanely fun if this were the case and to see it out perform all classes but also providing a wide variety of builds. I doubt the devs want to have any other class out-perform Barb though
I started at Launch and passed on all seasons til s4, probably gonna skip s5 unless some major changes coming through. At this point I just hope VoH is great.
Why not make the mats for internal hordes really hard to find - but when you do it it needs to be REWARDING. I think it is cool that it takes time. But they can of course make it more interesting to play the 40 minutes.
they already brought in a version of challenge rifts and a version of echoing nightmares from D3, they might as well just bring in bounties as well. I know we already have whispers, but no one does the blue checkmark quests. just make another mini system that highlights certain blue quests and get a reward as well, be it gems or mats or gold or whatever currency needed in the game. They are already in the game, make them useful in some way
Ron, you're being a bit disingenuous about how people reacted badly to seasons imho. Remember that blizzard wanted us to grind renown every single damn season in the beginning (including all the Altars of Lilith and shit)!
With Baneful Hearts - there's no reward for spending more than 1, which was extremely bad feeling when you're in a group of 5-6 and it's 1-2 people depositing... why am I spending 2 hearts to get 33% extra loot when I could just be a leech and stand around waiting for other suckers to come and deposit for free. If the loot scaled (higher quantity drops, or higher tier drops) with deposits, you'd have people fighting over who gets to deposit - but they've nerfed the drop rate, and done nothing to supplement it as far as the loot - and that feels bad. Helltides will likely slowly fade into irrelevance again outside of angelbreath.
"Diablo4 is at good place at the moment" ?? Firrst of all I payed 140£ that is 200$ for a game where the half of the original content is missing. Diablo, Baal locations etc etc. A 100$ just to have a chance to fight Mephisto... Are you f kidding me.. And ofc we will be forced to pay 200$ more to see Diablo and Baal in 2027 or 2030 if ever... After 2 or 3 weeks into season I'm on god gear 2x shako, 3x doombringers, 2x rings bla bla bla. 1 shot ubers, zero challange and nothing left to do. Broken boring Dog sh..t! A f 100lvl take 3 hrs to level up. Dog sh...t!! Lets talk mechanics in this forever beta state piece of garbage. Shall we... Tempering.. dog sh.t, Aspects system.. dog sh.t, GA system DOG SH.T! Makes even uber unique items feel like garbage if they roll without GA. Rare items.. garbage, legendary items.. garbage, unique items.. garbage. Aspect system kills all the fun from finding legendary items. Again.. no GA on a good item?... garbage. All items feels like trash if not with this horribly stupid GA system. And again.. this moronic tempering system and mastering system. What the actual f this suposed to be.. A f lotto game.. or Bingo perhabs. Not to mention best item can becone a trash brick becouse of this id.iotic system.. A "good place" you having a laugh dude... If a uber unique drop I want to jump up from excitement that I found gosu item. Insted it drop, I check for GA.. no GA? Trash.. utter garbage design. Now don't make me even start about builds, nerfs, buffs... forever unbalanced beta trash. And before you say anything.. I play Diablo since day 1. Hc pro 99 soso, paly, barb,dudu and what not and etc. d1, d2, d3 and then alpha d4, now beta d4 All of previous tittles were better than d4. Yes graphics are spot on, combat itself good but all the rest... suck balls big time. Open world... meeh but fine.. okay Musicis okay but the whole itemization system is a UTTER DOG SH.T! No advenrture, no excitment, no challange and nothing to do but boooooring af grinding for mats... That is the worst diablo ever. Original creators of Diablo faceplam all day fr. I could go on and on about how broken this game is.. Thankfully... Poe2 is coming out and boy oh boy it looks 100 tines better in every way than D4. So until Blizz don't want to D4 be abonded like it deserve to be at this point they really need to start doing their f job. For now this alpha/beta 0.5 D4 is going to be put on a shelf. I spent 100$ for incoming dlc and that is the last tine I support this company.. Also I refuse to pay any more money for any additional content, dlc bs in the future.. meanning that I will never see Diablo in a f Diablo game.. how rediculus is that?! A f cash grab. This game should be named "Diablo 4 The Etetnal Cash Grab" Again. It is at best a beta test game with half of contet missing and it is unacteptable. Making billions of dollars they have a nerve to ask for a 100$ just to fight Mephisto plus 1 new character. This is new level of greed. This tactics will ruin the players count 100% Ppl will get fed up. They are fed up. I'm fed up so its good bye to D4 untill new Dlc. I will get on board to see whats up and that will be a last chance.. the very last chance. They will have to pull a miracle and I know they won't. It will be the same dog sh.t unbalanced builds, annoying broken systems and boring 3 weeks run whit nothing really to do afterwards but do some bs boring af pits or helltides plus forever boring grind for sone small digits numbers on a item that it will be trash any way. No excitment whatsoever. Peace..
The shock half the playerbase had when they found out about Seasons and having to start a new character each time. Everyone treated this game like an mmo 🤦♂️ I actually haven't had a single bad day with D4 yet, and I've been playing since launch. The worst part about this game for me is the other players. In fact scratch that, other players that I meet *in-game* are great, but the supposed "players" I see commenting online, are some of the most toxic man children I've ever come across. Devs release new patch notes for D4 - and suddenly a sea of sweaty pasty gamers who haven't seen sun light in 2 decades start to gather on the horizon, as they collectively storm all the forums, chat rooms and comment sections, and decide which parts of the game are bad before even playing it, because HuRr DuRr BlIzZaRd BaD D4 BaD
@@BL00DYME55 the only reason "seasons" were ever invented was to fix a ruined exploited trading economy, which this game doesn't have... what's the effing point?
My issue was there was no variety in unique. The builds were boring. I am ok with different tiers of uniques too but there wasn’t enough. If there is very little to get then it becomes boring.
12:17 the gameplay of the S5 quest was better than the Infernal Hordes. density and elite packs and such were so much better. A larger area to run around and still more enemies.
Well yeah. Because it's a map, not a room. I guess putting a new map in per challenge is a bit too difficult for whatever reason for the odd season team.
The Inferno Horde is very challenging and Engaging when you're playing as a Necro that requires dodging boss moves. But I could imagine standing still ignore all boss moves as a barb could get very boring.
Yeah it can be boring but if it comes down to efficient farming for mats for builds the barb and rogue will be used more as they just complete content faster so if I only have a few hours to play I will build the fastest farmer first then play a build I have fun with. It is a problem but it will not be fixed I feel, blizzard will just make new classes op like barb and rogue to get expansion sales.
the PTR is a necessary thing. And early access should be looked at as a secondary PTR within the live game with hot fixes to come before everyone else jumps in
how is it necessary? they're literally using you for free labor.... they used to pay money for peoples opinions, now they get it all for free and still screw everything up... Necessary? Really?
They tipped their foot in some MMORPGS features like the open map with interactions with multiple players, but it's like everything Diablo is doing is just half-baked. They just hang into the franchise name. This season was the first one that I went beyond level 15-ish because it was fun leveling and go for the items and uniques. But for me (and I guess a lot of people) the game feels EMPTY right after you finish a build. I got my andariel visage rogue functional, cleared a pit 100 something with ease, I can kill uber lilith. What more can I do? Farm endlessly for small increments just so I can beat the exact same pits that so happen to show that is a number higher? It's so odd to finally have my build completed and feel like "ok... guess I just stop playing" There needs to be more activities and they should take pages from the MMORPGS. One rpg I like played back in the day was Ragnarok. Ragnarok had something called war of emperium: there were maps with castles that clans could enter to fight for a hour. Once the hour ended the clan in possession of the castle would retain it until the next war (it was 2x a week). The castle granted access to some benefits unique to the castle. Something similar would give players a pvp option and a reason to grind and interact. DOesn't even need to be a group/clan thing. Rayman Legends has a post game system that have 4 challenges that all players can do individualy, but your score or time would be matched online and you would receive medals based on your tier, with the top player defining the threshold. By the end of the event you would collect rewards. Diablo could make an hour for players to enter pits chained in a row and your rank would be compared on how many you completed and how many the best player in the world did. You could do it like a pit starting at lvl 90 and increasing a level each time. So many ways. And of course, I could go on with multiple ideas, but any of them would flop if your reward is a chest with 3 items...
02:00 and here we see the fucking problem at its peak of the D4 DEVS and their thought process..... I DONT NEED TO HAVE MY UBER UNIQUE FAST and it wouldnt ever take me years to farm it in d2 that is straight up BS in D2 I had so many ways of making "currency" i could farm mephisto andariel hell or cs or cow level or even PGEMS in the Acts and farm my "UBER UNIQUE" that way. I never felt like there is an item i cant get in diablo 2 doenst matter how rare it was cuz i could farm stuff and in the end i was sure i could trade it for the items i need and want. THATS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE.
You don't have multiple bosses here to farm? Cows= hell tide.. all the sams shit. I played d2 for years and years and there are many items I've never found. Rng was worse on d2. So not really sure what youre even talking about.
@@RickieJr Agree..Enigma became so mandatory to many builds It became BiS - And farming Ber was 0 to no possible - Without trading with others there was a possibility you never seen the rune. Tyrel Might was so rare it become a legend and grandfather as well. That being said this guy never played diablo 2 lol. To me, making some items super rare was a good thing, but ppl that play games these days are just spoiled brat's that want's everything immediately.
@blazedehart2748 as you can in d4 most gg items are legendary. Most builds in season 4 don't even require a Uber and they basically give you a Uber free.
@@GaliwarixI think the modern internet era is hugely at fault for this because b4 UA-cam and social media everyone couldn't look up the best builds online Everyone couldn't watch 100s of videos of ppl using the best hard to get items so they never felt left out if u didn't have that hard to get item u didn't feel left out next cause barely anyone had them from your perspective But now u go on UA-cam and watch all these videos and it seems like everyone has that item EXCEPT for you and u feel cheated and left out.
@@Rohirrim009well the beauty is sin cosmetic in the shop has a lower drop rate than all mythic uniques and my triple malice exploit and frigid finess necklass with 2 GA dropped and I'm still waiting for that outfit in store. First world problems really mess with mind.
if you played classic WoW and tries learning new dungeons people would smash thier keyboards because they were so hard alotta people dont remember that and the games been out for so long yeah you will learn the mechanics but it wasn't easy for a long time.
Game is just still boring at endgame. Pit runs and helltides get boring fast. Its the same crap over and over. Game needs variety of content. Different stuff to do and not talking about different ways of killing monsters. PROPER crafting systems are needed and im not talking about going to the blacksmith. Actually going out in the world and farming stuff. Like the herbs but doing different activites.D4 i think will never change unless the devs realise they need to TAKE A PAGE OUT OF World of Warcraft and turn it into a MMOARPG.
Chat is dead trying to sell and trade almost non exsistant they also need to add dungeon q for uber bosses tired of spamming for an hour or making a group for people to leave after 1 run make it you go to dungeon add the mats and it q you up easy.
Last epoch has seasons to but you can enjoy the same content while playing your first created character without torturing yourself each new season doing the same nonsense over and over again! Blizz/Activision has the tendency of doing this BS on every IP they have just to troll their playerbase!
Even with all of the notes and information, I'm seeing a pattern to play the even seasons and skip the odd ones. Season 2 wasn't too bad. Season 4 was the version of the game we should have had at launch. The goal should be to increase replay value and trying multiple classes/builds like in season 4. Boost lesser utilized builds and paragon board stats. We could use 5 skills and 5 innate perks per skill tree tier, including 10 options within the final tier. Each item type should have a unique weapon (why don't we have unique crossbows, focuses, totems, 1h maces, etc)
@@victorsoto4821 there are plenty of alternatives, the issue is ARPG players balk at them because of this weird intrinsic belief that those alternatives dont belong in the genre (a fallacy). a simple alternative for "fake obsolescence" is to scale item power. as opposed to forcing people to restart a toon every 90days, you can impart shorter sprints with releasing chase items that exceed the "seasons" item power. as an example: 925 is the highest in D4 right now. 2 weeks into the season, they can up the item power to 935 and tweak drop rates. this expands item choice for those who are chasing ubers and those who get 935 drops (which theoretically would outperform 925 ubers in certain affixes/criteria). mechanics that are introduced as "new season" i.e. malignant hearts, vampiric powers can simply be rolled into a themed event. MMOs do this to great effect. the proof is in the pudding anyway - diehards blow through the current seasonal content anyway and it all devolves into some patterned workflow (helltide, pits, infernal horde) that have little to no impact on whether you have to restart a toon to get there or not. its just making a decision on how you want this "looter shooter" to be. ARPGs, by and large, would benefit greatly by synthesizing MMORPG elements that cater to a broader audience that have already solved the player-retention problem.
I'm seeing comments from people saying we need more endgame. I'm kind of tired of all the different things I need to do to keep up. I'm kind of happy ubers will be dropping from helltide chests now too. I find myself looking back to D3's simplicity. I liked you casually correcting bellular on the pronounciation of the word 'kaput'. Also, he used it incorrectly, I believe. Currency evaporates, it's not broken.
Man they saying they tried going in the Diablo 2 direction scares me, they have no idea wtf they are doing. There was never anything diablo 2 about diablo 4.
They did all the bad, gems max stacks were at 50. In Diablo 3 they could stacked to 100k+ in gem bag. They used the inventory system from 2 should have used 3's inventory system and improved upon it. All the boss mats should stack higher living steel stacks should cap at least 100 not 50 same with blood. Or at the very add a another tab next to consumables and use it for the boss mats. Now that they have pets why can't they auto salvage commons; rares, and epics liked Diablo 3 did. Vendors sell trash ancestral from 450k to 950k rares to epics. They only pay 20k for legendary ancestrals. They used triple the sell cost to actually give players incentive to pick them up.
@@Juggs_WoW people liked d2 because there was an actual community to play with, an economy which makes farming actually worth something, and purpose to restart new characters. Even today you could easily have fun making 3 sorcs because there's literally 3 elemental builds that are all viable. D4 is a huge boring waste of time. have fun alone grinding so that only you can use your item that nobody gives 2 shits about because you cant give it to them anyway.
I mean they just need to listen to players that are playing their game then they’ll be okay I don’t get why companies don’t get that yet when they say a class is bad a class is bad get to work on some buffs and balance them no reason barb is just cracked and they are scared to buff every other class it doesn’t make sense we can’t compensate for the bad with the paragon and skill tree either
I wish the game stopped being about the grind and started adding more content. I LOVED the campaign. The whole reason I bought Diablo IV was because I fell in love with the lore and the story of Diablo II. I learned that Diablo II was about the grind after I did the campaign in Diablo IV and decided to check Reddit to see what people are saying about the game, lol.
yea when you see druids doing 2 damage. sorcs nerfed to hell on release. ETC devs who didn't have a clue on how to play the game. Overall I have said they should have fired all the devs on day one. Shout about ptr...bullshit its just a way for someone to do their job for them.and I was surprised that everything wasn't nerfed into the ground.
I actually HATE the seasonable concept of D4. I came back for Season 4 but I dont think I can be bothered to create a new character for Season 5. They are going to start doing Seasonal Characters in Division 2 as well so that will end that game for me too.
i started playing D4 is season 4. its horrible. no sets, useless uniques, horrible loot rewards, etc. blizz has been clueless about the direction of the game. classes unbalanced, majority of spells not viable at all. should i go on...?
The Diablo 4 Developer Team is huge and over the recent Seasons they had to learn a lot. I am glad we finally have the chance to test these Seasons on the PTR! Hopefully our Feedback help and we will get a BANGER Season 5! @BellularNews made a very good video here.
Original Video: ua-cam.com/video/BvejKi4FCkg/v-deo.html
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:04 Season 5 in danger
06:11 Season 4
10:10 PTR Season 5
21:40 Boss Fight Infernal Horde
28:09 Buffs & Nerfs - Personal opinions on the game
35:06 Vessel of Hatred & Huge D4 Dev Team
All my Builds for Season 4 & 5 (I always try to keep it up to date): d4builds.gg/rob2628/builds/
I agree
i like s4 but skipped s3, so as i will skip s5. its ridiculous to think they can let us grind for years to find an uber when a season only lasts 3 month. i hate the idea of seasons but i like diablo. im born 1985 and played d1 and d2. either stop the season system and let us grind for unlimited paragorn and increase lvl cap to 200… then you can let us grind forever for an uber unique… or if you stick to seasons then give us feasible ways to get any uber in each season. period
let's not call hot fixes of bugged builds "nerfs" as they are not. fix bugs and balance the rest. done.
i duno the s5 endgame mechanic that lookslike a helltide with an old recolored diablo boss is just not my cup of tea xD aint buying it and only 1 new class as content to play yea no
Baleful heart drop rate nerf is one of the dumbest things Blizzard has ever done right next to making Diablo Immortal.
D4 devs tried to emulate the super rarity of D2 drops, but without the economy and trading system to go along with it. It made zero sense.
Exactly. Even if there were super rare crafting materials or masterworking or tempering runes that were tradable. But it's 2024. Open world but closed game play loop. Debt is money. Boys are girls. D4 is now a yearly expansion milk fest like call of duty and EA sports.
@@Dunkdamonk Amen.
The economy is lacking for sure. You can still load up D2 and find an item you've never seen before.
And with diablo 3 systems. So there is no way to target farm areas and items
@@toast1211 and "smart" loot.... finding something that makes you want to start a completely new character is essentially non-existent, who's stupid genius idea was this?
The problem we have with class balance is they're trying nerf skills that are the most popular while trying to buff skills that are not so popular, but we still end up with less diversity overall due to them going from one extreme to another with balance , especially due to barbs continuing to get buffs in most skills, since their idea was to bring all the classes up to barbs level but they keep missing the mark.
Spot on there 🙂
I'm convinced the devs of D4 don't play D4.
They certainly do but only on a casual lvl
judging by the cc duration, they def dont lol
I think they are not gamers at all
@@toast1211 being a gamer doesn't automatically
mean you know what a good game is.
I think they are indeed casual players but don't have a good understanding for their game.
@@sonoftristram don't remember asking your opinion. But just maybe being a gamer would help them know how to make a game fun
"All builds up to S or S+ tier so we can just all have fun" Love that Rob
this philosophy never worked and never will, it's cool to think it should, but imagine, if all builds were s+ tier, the game would be boring af - what you really need is class balance. each class with even a single build in s+, the rest, tiered accordingly.
@@endorphinADMIN thats completely wrong, giving the player more choice IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT ANSWER. what if i dont like any classes? Any builds? the game sucks then end of story, all builds, all possibilities should be good that way players can actually do anything they want and not play fotm, fotm is trash, (btw you are right about class balance 100%) i didnt originally read your balance suggestion but the difference between bottom and top possibilites should never be insanely immense
@@endorphinADMINWhat is needed is the ability to make any build S+ tier and viable so you can theory craft and it’s not just cookie cutter builds you want to see a player going ham and be like wtf are you building not oh whirlwind bard bash barb which are the best build in the game head and shoulders above anything any other class can build one thing is on Druid let us use a weapon and totem and on sorc a book and weapon it’s time already and still won’t make them op
@endorphinADMIN I don't see why it would make the game "boring." If you can play your favorite on everyclass while each one of them being S or S+ Tier, then you'll have a ton of fun.
Eitherway its just the way it's said in the video, that "So we can all have fun," that's important. I had no choice playing the windshear build on my druid before the patch where pulverize got buffed and all, because it was the only decent build out there for druid. Before that, I had a lot of fun on the shred build but wasn't strong enough to push the pit sadly, so there stopped the fun really.
Paladin is the only class that makes sense in the expansion. The new zone in the expansion is Nahuntu, the entire lore of the zone was that zakarum had Nahuntu as their seat of power and they had Paladins weeding out corruption in the area. Mephesto corrupted the Zakarum and filled the zone with demons leading to the zones conflict. The fact that Rod Ferguson saying paladin didnt fit into the theme it made me rage a little bit.
Paladin's orders exist everywhere. The seat of power is Travincal, their influence expanded through Kehjistan to Nahantu. They are Zakarumites, Zakarum is simply their faith/order, its not a place. It's D3's Witch Doctors who comes from Nahantu, D2's Paladin are WESTMARCH knights... they are from another CONTINENT, like Akkarat himself.
What were you raging about? You dont know anything, just paraphrasing reddit/twitter/youtubers sentiment.
@@kahaneck i never said they didnt exist everywhere and I wasn't raging. Diablo lore has nahuntu as a "seat of power" for zakarum. My argument is that when rod Ferguson said that paladins didnt fit into nahuntu which is why they decided to not do paladins in the expansion. The whole story about the zone is that mephesto corrupted the Zakarum order in the area. Paladins probably fit best with the lore if Nahuntu, certainly they fit better than a brand new class with no established lore in the area.
It's pretty simple. Round up the team for S1, 3 & 5 and make them janitors.
It's just the end-game that is boring. Once you're geared and have your ubers, there's nothing left outside of pits or praying for GA gear that's an upgrade to your current stuff. The combat is good, but a lot of aspects of the game are still pretty rough.
100% True ive been screaming this out since the beginning of D4. They need to turn D4 into a MMOARPG. Need different variety of content. Its blizzard take a god dam look at World of Warcraft endgame.
Well this is true for those who play A LOT and in groups. Casuals might never find Ubers during seasons. So how to please both? First of , fix the balance and work on endgame
The game is not made to go on indefinitely. Just play hc or make a new character if you get bored.
All these talks about endgame makes me even more sad about lost ark.
That game could've been... THE GOD of ARPGS.. but greed got in the way, similar to archage...Sad
@@akhsdenlew1861 agreed man Valtan fight was one of my favourites of any MMO the combat was great but yeah greed...
Feedback: We want paladin.
Blizz: Best we can do is Spirit Born...
Feedback: D4 bad
Blizz: Best we can do is this.
It's good to see Blizzard putting their foot down. It's worked so well for them in the past.
The problem with the Sorc nerfs is simple. They aren’t doing massive damage to start with. The “change” to ice armor, given the state of the class in the first place, makes no sense. The class already has to choose between survivability and damage, but scaling in damage doesn’t add up.
That being said tho I still love the class. The skills and powers are fun to level with, and the effects are cool.
If the rewards are as terrible as they were on ptr I'm definitely sitting out season 5
These guys aren't gamers; they're programmers.
I want them to introduce a "Home" recall. So that i can set what town I want to port to, when I hit the "T".
I genuinely wish more people were privy to how out of touch these higher popular content creators(NOT talking about Rob to be clear) who merely only check in when it's convenient for them to farm hate engagement, actually are. Revisionist history is a very real thing. When the original beta shipped, MOST of the sentiment around the game was largely positive (bc ppl thought it was a great STARTING point to build on). Launch was also largely received overwhelmingly positive. It wasn't until those patch notes dropped for season 1 where it ALL fell off a cliff. the season of the nerf. where the highlight was Rods colonoscopy joke.
This guy said with a straight face that season 2 was a miss. How credible is anything past that point when you don't even have the community sentiment accurate? It's the same thing with Asmon when he swears through his teeth that the devs have listened to literally NOTHING...until season 4. lol. Like there's NOTHING wrong with not keeping in touch with something you don't like. Literally nothing. But don't come around pretending like you have a finger on the pulse whenever you decide it's convenient for you to farm engagement.
You talk to damn near anyone that keeps up with D4. In one year the sentiment is fairly consistent. Even team, nothing but roses. Keep up the good work. Odd team...what in the actual fuck are you doing over there? lol.
Yes that's true when that guy said season 2 was a miss I just stopped taking anything he said seriously. Season 2 was great. I bet he will also be an advocate of just getting any piece of gear you want with a currency like, "you want a triple GA item with what ever affix you want" just do 1 helltide and its yours that's what kind of player mindset he gives me. All reward no effort needed.
My god, I can't stand the majority of these type of content "creators". The don't have a clue what is going on with the game, but act like they do, and their audience of millions of NPCs just take everything that comes out of their dumb mouth as gospel, then argue online sounding just as clueless as the streamer they simp over. Asmon is a prime example. The dude is funking clueless, and needs to stick to wow and stealing other people's hard work, like a pathetic leech he is, cause he knows f-k all about everything else in life.
“We found out very quickly if you don’t give them their Ubers they get very upset” 😂 guilty as charged
I have 3 lvl 100 accounts and have received 0 ubers
Instant gratification weakness.
I'd kind of like that if an uber dropped while you were doing group play that you could trade it to someone who was in group with you when it dropped. I play with a friend quite a bit and of the 4 ubers we've both gotten, all but one of them was something that the other one wanted, it was the right uber but dropped for the wrong person.
@@Kraybraynot that hard. Do a bunch of tormented zirs, and you should get one easy.
@@DanielgunKim how? I have 75k+ attack power on every char and can't even sniff doing a tormented boss and I refuse to cheese
Not going to lie, i have no excitement for season 5😢
You are certainly not alone with this - I feel a lack of hype in the entire community sadly
@@Rob2628 i still have hype for your video tho!🥰😁
Atm. season 5 seems to me like a mid season patch. Pretty nice things tho, but nothing to be exited for. But well... They got a month left. Lets see. And if its just ok, ill be fine with 1-2 lvl 100 HC chars and wait for the new expansion.
Well, we don't even know what the season mechanic is gonna be so how should we be hyped ?
@@sonoftristram well last ptr i was overhyped 😉
I skipped season 3 also. but I played every other one
much of the same.. tried s01 and left before level30.. tried s02 was cool.. s03 didnt appeal to me.. s04 tho.. 3 level100s which is a record for me
Have a “root” of the whisper tree spawn in each zone so that I don’t have to bounce through load screens. I’d rather run to that “root” and submit. I could even map out sequence of whispers this way.
Belular doesn’t even play D4 - give me a break. By the way I love you Rob - your WW barb build took me from 115 on my heartseeker rogue to a 131 on my WW barb. 100% because of you! And maybe a little skill. But mostly you. PLEASE go ham next season with WW. ❤
Disagree on buff/nerf debate. The gap is too large between classes, not sure if its a bias making you think this way because lets be honest, if it was a case of buffing classes up it would be 4/6 classes being buffed up to barbarian/rogue level. Which seems counter intuitive. Bring damage numbers down, buff the skill tree and stop trying to patch issues with aspects. I also personally think some unique effects need to be moved to the paragon boards to make them more exciting and interesting and transformative for specific builds
So you just want guaranteed unique aspects which can be required in paragon. No that's a terrible idea as if you can make any op build you want with just paragon nodes will kill retention as players will be finished with builds too quickly and get bored.
@@barrymacdonald3439 90% of uniques aren't worth using. Nor are they hard to get. By the time I hit 100 and get all my paragon points for this "op" system I've got 4-5 copies of every class unique sitting in my stash. Opportunity cost is a thing, getting that unique effect on your paragon board would come at the cost of whatever paragon you're replacing. It wouldn't make anyone op, nor would your build be finished any sooner.
You could give necros black rivers effect for free AND keep the replacement paragon. Corpse explosion would still be trash, but at least it wouldn't be aids to play.
@@barrymacdonald3439 he said "some" and to be fair retention is already bad because builds are finished too quickly and you get bored. lvl 100 in 1-3 sessions...
@mikemcqueen9899 hey at least you guys can read. Some unique not all. The legendary nodes in the paragon board are so low impact this would change that and put some power back into the classes that need it at their core. New aspects doesn't fix the problem or buffing numbers
The thing about carry over to the next run is it totally invalidates the lesser chest rewards, and removes some of the incentive to do the best you can on the highest teir you can in order to get the big box. That being said the big box needs to be an amazing reward, not three garbage items
Mephisto didn't help us. He tricked the girl to help him. And now we will fail to kill him before he summons Diablo or Baal.
RIP Sorcs anyway
The PTR for season 5 was so buggy because it was played in a version of the game that was from before Season of the Construct went live. If you went into the wardrobe they had placeholder assets for transmogs that released during that season.
Makes me wonder if there's some kind of fundamental flaw in the way they develop things. It's like the team that just had finished up season 3 took that build of the game and started building season 5 right on top of it. So all the hot fixes that were released throughout season 3, to fix all the bugs with it, plus all the changes with season 4, plus all the hot fixes with season 4, none of that is reflected in the season 5 PTR build. Do I know that's actually the case? No, but your comment makes me think that could be what is going on and why we are seeing so many fucking bugs all over the place that were previously squished in the live game by the way
@@d4mephisto also probably why they were unable to add in things like profane mindcages, seasonal elixirs and the iron wolf questline. really lends credence to the theory that there's one dev team for odd seasons and another for even-numbered seasons.
@@nerf_t yep. And even though rod Ferguson has in a recent interview refuted that idea, that could just be public relations speak. Like the actual reality could be. They still have these two teams, where one is retarded and the other is like okay, but rod is just trying to spin things and make us think that's not the case. It's almost like we know too much and that's a problem for them lol
Paul Tassi won't shut up about starting over on seasons, smh
Paul is awesome. Shut your mouth.
Who?
Well he's a fat white guy who plays a lot of Destiny 2. He has terrible taste when it comes to almost everything in life. I've read enough of his inane articles to determine that's the case with him.
He also was writing things at the launch of D4, saying things like seasons shouldn't exist, characters should never need to be re-created or re-leveled up, and that leveling should take a long time because you should only ever have to do it once for your main character, blah blah blah.
He legit was expecting Diablo 4 leveling and character progression to be just like in an MMO. That is where Paul has always been wrong. D4 is not an MMO and is nothing like an MMO. It has a few MMO elements, but that's it. The actual true beating heart and soul of an MMO, those elements are not inside Diablo 4. Because it's an ARPG.
We can all be glad that Paul has mostly shut up about the game and just let it be. We're all better off for that. He's a moron lol.
@@jordan_goes_in4378 who tf made you the boss here? He won't shut up about it, I never said he's bad or anything, not trying to offend your boyfriend, every Diablo video of his devolves into the same nothing non argument
Dude need to shut up really. These kind of people are going to ruin D4 in the long run.
The beta testers were all content creators, so instead of a proper beta test people spent time making guides and videos for when the NDA lifted.
Said F it and gave Last Epoch a try these past few days...Blizzard needs to get it TOGETHER ASAP.
I don't understand why the devs are so scared to give us good loot rewards for the endgame content. Pits are just a grind for upgrading gear. They are more fun than nightmares for sure but it should have a lot higher chance for uniques and GA items to drop the higher you go imo. It doesn't look like season 5 will change any of this either. The new mode looks trash to me.
Speaking of the treadmill. People actually like treadmill mechanics. Go into any modern gym and you’ll see folks running on them…when they can run outside for free. (Sure you can make a case for safety, but isn’t that another conversation entirely?)
Gym treadmill rewards get you fit, D4 treadmill rewards get you sh1t
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Treadmills are generally the lesser evil in quest for a reward. Contolled weather, speed, incline and no interruptions in my quest to to have moderately decent hearthealth.
Ubers aren't a 'reward' they're just a dophamine hit. One you shouldn't look for if you don't enjoy the process.
they could change the renown to a reputation system with the mercenaries, and like certain classes have easier access to certain mercenaries, and other classes have to grind a bit to get that mercenary
The quest line I thought was excellent, in its leveling potential, the amount of loot that dropped, and how many elites were present. Also, you got the special amulet at the end. The event itself needs to be way better.
I want the ability to change armor color on mounts, backpack type stuff also maybe weapons so more variety. I have the mount armor sets on a few character armor sets that are matching but look stupid when you cant change the mount armor color but you can on the character. even if they made it match to the color picked the characters armor
The season 5 mechanic to me is they moved the blood maiden fight to hell
There is no season mechanic yet.
The infernal hordes come to eternal realm as well and will be a persistent mode, not the season mechanic.
Diablo IV's main problem is that it's boring. Grinding the same limited pool of content over and over again isn't fun, and the only people who would enjoy it are hardcore loot gambling addicts... I say "would" because D4 loot sucks ass, so its hard for me to see how it would satisfy anyone. With D2, you'd play through the campaign, and then either play the same campaign again with a new character or on a higher difficulty level. This works because the progression through the campaign naturally provides variety and a constant goal to work towards (a goal that isn't something meaningless like grind 10,000 seasonal reputation points or whatever), while the campaign depth is deep enough that you don't feel like you are mindlessly repeating the same content. What does D4 do? It throttles the absolute shit out of your progression if you want to play the campaign (you can hit the lvl 50 soft cap easily just by playing through the 1st chapter), taking the fun out of the experience. Or you can skip the campaign and lock yourself into a tiny amount of repetitive and lackluster content... man, I sure do love sitting in one place farming 500 helltide bosses in a row. Or the same 4 boring, grindy Pit bosses again and again and again... This is probably the wrong audience for this comment, but fuck, Path of Exile figured out how to do it right years ago.
And then with the glyphs being cap at 15, there’s no point in even running sigil anymore
cap is on 21
Did u stop levelling 15???😮
D4 should add a Greater Shard or something that allows you to upgrade 1 affix at random to a greater affix. Hunting GA’s is just such a grind
THAT. IS. THE. POINT.
You don't want a grind? Don't play a ARPG!
@rob2628 - The reason we were hoping for something "Different" is that other ARPG's like Lost Ark managed to figure out how to do it WITHOUT resetting. If you've never played it, this is what some of the "quality of life" things they offered that us "dads" were hoping D4 would bring:
1. Campaign skip after you've done the campaign once - they ACTUALLY did it. This was a W.
2. The Ability to boost your next ALT - Diablo still wants you to spend HOURS doing repetitive stuff. This season it was the meta of making a new character, and running straight to helltide hoping others would join for boss fight. then sit there for 2 hours, before you could run capstone solo. Boring AF waste of time
3. NO RESETTING - Lost Ark adds "horizontal" things to do and new bosses every big patch. They also sometimes raise the max level so you have something to grind towards. Why does diablo cap at 100? I have an 8-5 job with 3 kids and a wife and stuff to do around home and I managed to get 4 characters this season to 100. That should not be possible. The reason everyone wants resets is because of bad game design. D2/D2R has seasons, but it more fun running a character in that because it is MONUMENTALLY harder to get to 99. You feel like you always have something do to. In D4, I ran out of things to do. I beat 100 Pits (no incentive to push that further), I beat all tormented bosses, beat lilith, ran helltides 1098701237410938 times, got many uber uniques. So naturally I could use a new season. But our hope was that it was going to have SO MUCH to do, that we didn't want resets. So D4 is so bad with content, we sorta need seasons.
Pits dungeons need higher gold reward. Also farming mats to spawn Ubers is somewhat tedious since you have to rejoin another server to keep farming them.
Give the other classes 2 additionell items just like barb.
I’m hoping the Spiritborn class will be a cross between Rogue and Sorc. It would be insanely fun if this were the case and to see it out perform all classes but also providing a wide variety of builds. I doubt the devs want to have any other class out-perform Barb though
I wish they'd fix or remove tempering. I'm tired of paying 10-20 billion for an item and losing it in 20 seconds.
I started at Launch and passed on all seasons til s4, probably gonna skip s5 unless some major changes coming through. At this point I just hope VoH is great.
Change your damn builds then lol Don't just leave them there on MaxRoll all fubared.
Why not make the mats for internal hordes really hard to find - but when you do it it needs to be REWARDING. I think it is cool that it takes time. But they can of course make it more interesting to play the 40 minutes.
Any mandatory uber unique?
they already brought in a version of challenge rifts and a version of echoing nightmares from D3, they might as well just bring in bounties as well. I know we already have whispers, but no one does the blue checkmark quests. just make another mini system that highlights certain blue quests and get a reward as well, be it gems or mats or gold or whatever currency needed in the game. They are already in the game, make them useful in some way
S4 “Loot Reborn” S5 “Loot Murdered Again”
Season 1 and 3 were bad and season 4 had no theme because they had to rebuild the core systems.
Ron, you're being a bit disingenuous about how people reacted badly to seasons imho. Remember that blizzard wanted us to grind renown every single damn season in the beginning (including all the Altars of Lilith and shit)!
He's not. The even odd season meme existing is evidence enough of the communities disapproval with al least half of them.
People definitely complained about seasons even existing. The last people the devs should listen to.
His name is Rob
Who's Ron? This is beavis
Never seen a community complain and cry so much in my life.
With Baneful Hearts - there's no reward for spending more than 1, which was extremely bad feeling when you're in a group of 5-6 and it's 1-2 people depositing... why am I spending 2 hearts to get 33% extra loot when I could just be a leech and stand around waiting for other suckers to come and deposit for free.
If the loot scaled (higher quantity drops, or higher tier drops) with deposits, you'd have people fighting over who gets to deposit - but they've nerfed the drop rate, and done nothing to supplement it as far as the loot - and that feels bad. Helltides will likely slowly fade into irrelevance again outside of angelbreath.
They need to add more tiers so there is a bigger gap for less casual players to go instead of just a few dungeon type things and a few bosses.
Have you heard any rumors of Rune words coming in the expansion?
season 3 was ptr for season 4
I can’t wait for PoE2
"Diablo4 is at good place at the moment" ?? Firrst of all I payed 140£ that is 200$ for a game where the half of the original content is missing. Diablo, Baal locations etc etc.
A 100$ just to have a chance to fight Mephisto... Are you f kidding me..
And ofc we will be forced to pay 200$ more to see Diablo and Baal in 2027 or 2030 if ever...
After 2 or 3 weeks into season I'm on god gear 2x shako, 3x doombringers, 2x rings bla bla bla. 1 shot ubers, zero challange and nothing left to do. Broken boring Dog sh..t!
A f 100lvl take 3 hrs to level up. Dog sh...t!!
Lets talk mechanics in this forever beta state piece of garbage. Shall we...
Tempering.. dog sh.t, Aspects system.. dog sh.t, GA system DOG SH.T!
Makes even uber unique items feel like garbage if they roll without GA.
Rare items.. garbage, legendary items.. garbage, unique items.. garbage.
Aspect system kills all the fun from finding legendary items.
Again.. no GA on a good item?... garbage.
All items feels like trash if not with this horribly stupid GA system.
And again.. this moronic tempering system and mastering system. What the actual f this suposed to be.. A f lotto game.. or Bingo perhabs. Not to mention best item can becone a trash brick becouse of this id.iotic system..
A "good place" you having a laugh dude...
If a uber unique drop I want to jump up from excitement that I found gosu item.
Insted it drop, I check for GA.. no GA? Trash.. utter garbage design.
Now don't make me even start about builds, nerfs, buffs... forever unbalanced beta trash.
And before you say anything.. I play Diablo since day 1. Hc pro 99 soso, paly, barb,dudu and what not and etc.
d1, d2, d3 and then alpha d4, now beta d4
All of previous tittles were better than d4.
Yes graphics are spot on, combat itself good but all the rest... suck balls big time.
Open world... meeh but fine.. okay
Musicis okay but the whole itemization system is a UTTER DOG SH.T!
No advenrture, no excitment, no challange and nothing to do but boooooring af grinding for mats... That is the worst diablo ever.
Original creators of Diablo faceplam all day fr.
I could go on and on about how broken this game is..
Thankfully... Poe2 is coming out and boy oh boy it looks 100 tines better in every way than D4.
So until Blizz don't want to D4 be abonded like it deserve to be at this point they really need to start doing their f job.
For now this alpha/beta 0.5 D4 is going to be put on a shelf.
I spent 100$ for incoming dlc and that is the last tine I support this company..
Also I refuse to pay any more money for any additional content, dlc bs in the future.. meanning that I will never see Diablo in a f Diablo game.. how rediculus is that?!
A f cash grab. This game should be named
"Diablo 4 The Etetnal Cash Grab"
Again. It is at best a beta test game with half of contet missing and it is unacteptable.
Making billions of dollars they have a nerve to ask for a 100$ just to fight Mephisto plus 1 new character. This is new level of greed.
This tactics will ruin the players count 100%
Ppl will get fed up. They are fed up.
I'm fed up so its good bye to D4 untill new Dlc. I will get on board to see whats up and that will be a last chance.. the very last chance. They will have to pull a miracle and I know they won't.
It will be the same dog sh.t unbalanced builds, annoying broken systems and boring 3 weeks run whit nothing really to do afterwards but do some bs boring af pits or helltides plus forever boring grind for sone small digits numbers on a item that it will be trash any way. No excitment whatsoever.
Peace..
The problem with seasons is that it's literally they easiest concept to encourage play time , then characters go to a empty eternal realm
Be nice if they would fix the Rupture bug already
How about a Cursor that does not turn black when attacking the boss? Different colors is meaningless if they fade to black wtf
That was the worst thing for me at launch, all the people who have no understanding of Diablo giving their opinions.
The shock half the playerbase had when they found out about Seasons and having to start a new character each time. Everyone treated this game like an mmo 🤦♂️
I actually haven't had a single bad day with D4 yet, and I've been playing since launch. The worst part about this game for me is the other players. In fact scratch that, other players that I meet *in-game* are great, but the supposed "players" I see commenting online, are some of the most toxic man children I've ever come across. Devs release new patch notes for D4 - and suddenly a sea of sweaty pasty gamers who haven't seen sun light in 2 decades start to gather on the horizon, as they collectively storm all the forums, chat rooms and comment sections, and decide which parts of the game are bad before even playing it, because HuRr DuRr BlIzZaRd BaD D4 BaD
@@BL00DYME55 the only reason "seasons" were ever invented was to fix a ruined exploited trading economy, which this game doesn't have... what's the effing point?
My issue was there was no variety in unique. The builds were boring. I am ok with different tiers of uniques too but there wasn’t enough. If there is very little to get then it becomes boring.
12:17 the gameplay of the S5 quest was better than the Infernal Hordes. density and elite packs and such were so much better. A larger area to run around and still more enemies.
Well yeah. Because it's a map, not a room. I guess putting a new map in per challenge is a bit too difficult for whatever reason for the odd season team.
The goblin event was the biggest dud of the game.
What id like to know is what is going to happen with our Varshan parts? Will the heads hands and femurs just go poef, or will they turn into hearts?
into only malignant hearts its frustating they not changed it for ptr
The Inferno Horde is very challenging and Engaging when you're playing as a Necro that requires dodging boss moves. But I could imagine standing still ignore all boss moves as a barb could get very boring.
Yeah it can be boring but if it comes down to efficient farming for mats for builds the barb and rogue will be used more as they just complete content faster so if I only have a few hours to play I will build the fastest farmer first then play a build I have fun with. It is a problem but it will not be fixed I feel, blizzard will just make new classes op like barb and rogue to get expansion sales.
Loading Screens are the real meta currency in Diablo 4
the PTR is a necessary thing. And early access should be looked at as a secondary PTR within the live game with hot fixes to come before everyone else jumps in
how is it necessary? they're literally using you for free labor.... they used to pay money for peoples opinions, now they get it all for free and still screw everything up... Necessary? Really?
They tipped their foot in some MMORPGS features like the open map with interactions with multiple players, but it's like everything Diablo is doing is just half-baked. They just hang into the franchise name. This season was the first one that I went beyond level 15-ish because it was fun leveling and go for the items and uniques. But for me (and I guess a lot of people) the game feels EMPTY right after you finish a build. I got my andariel visage rogue functional, cleared a pit 100 something with ease, I can kill uber lilith. What more can I do? Farm endlessly for small increments just so I can beat the exact same pits that so happen to show that is a number higher? It's so odd to finally have my build completed and feel like "ok... guess I just stop playing"
There needs to be more activities and they should take pages from the MMORPGS. One rpg I like played back in the day was Ragnarok. Ragnarok had something called war of emperium: there were maps with castles that clans could enter to fight for a hour. Once the hour ended the clan in possession of the castle would retain it until the next war (it was 2x a week). The castle granted access to some benefits unique to the castle. Something similar would give players a pvp option and a reason to grind and interact. DOesn't even need to be a group/clan thing.
Rayman Legends has a post game system that have 4 challenges that all players can do individualy, but your score or time would be matched online and you would receive medals based on your tier, with the top player defining the threshold. By the end of the event you would collect rewards. Diablo could make an hour for players to enter pits chained in a row and your rank would be compared on how many you completed and how many the best player in the world did. You could do it like a pit starting at lvl 90 and increasing a level each time. So many ways.
And of course, I could go on with multiple ideas, but any of them would flop if your reward is a chest with 3 items...
02:00 and here we see the fucking problem at its peak of the D4 DEVS and their thought process..... I DONT NEED TO HAVE MY UBER UNIQUE FAST and it wouldnt ever take me years to farm it in d2 that is straight up BS in D2 I had so many ways of making "currency" i could farm mephisto andariel hell or cs or cow level or even PGEMS in the Acts and farm my "UBER UNIQUE" that way. I never felt like there is an item i cant get in diablo 2 doenst matter how rare it was cuz i could farm stuff and in the end i was sure i could trade it for the items i need and want. THATS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE.
You don't have multiple bosses here to farm? Cows= hell tide.. all the sams shit. I played d2 for years and years and there are many items I've never found. Rng was worse on d2. So not really sure what youre even talking about.
@@RickieJr Agree..Enigma became so mandatory to many builds It became BiS - And farming Ber was 0 to no possible - Without trading with others there was a possibility you never seen the rune. Tyrel Might was so rare it become a legend and grandfather as well. That being said this guy never played diablo 2 lol. To me, making some items super rare was a good thing, but ppl that play games these days are just spoiled brat's that want's everything immediately.
@@RickieJrhes saying that even you personally had bad RNG, you could still farm and trade your way to gg items in D2.
@blazedehart2748 as you can in d4 most gg items are legendary. Most builds in season 4 don't even require a Uber and they basically give you a Uber free.
@@GaliwarixI think the modern internet era is hugely at fault for this because b4 UA-cam and social media everyone couldn't look up the best builds online
Everyone couldn't watch 100s of videos of ppl using the best hard to get items so they never felt left out if u didn't have that hard to get item u didn't feel left out next cause barely anyone had them from your perspective
But now u go on UA-cam and watch all these videos and it seems like everyone has that item EXCEPT for you and u feel cheated and left out.
Ptr should be for bugs and minor fixes but they shouldn't be relying on user feedback for content so heavily in a ptr
i was actually considering skipping season 5 as well, and just waiting for the expansion.
They just need to make some cosmetic drops super rare and worth the grind. When progression is halted due to drop rates it isn’t fun.
Gear Sets are needed for each class Rare but worth the grind. Stats which increase if you have 2, 4 or 6 of the same set.
@@Rohirrim009well the beauty is sin cosmetic in the shop has a lower drop rate than all mythic uniques and my triple malice exploit and frigid finess necklass with 2 GA dropped and I'm still waiting for that outfit in store. First world problems really mess with mind.
if you played classic WoW and tries learning new dungeons people would smash thier keyboards because they were so hard alotta people dont remember that and the games been out for so long yeah you will learn the mechanics but it wasn't easy for a long time.
Those were the days 🤩
Dan and Bellular? Pure Gold vid!
Game is just still boring at endgame. Pit runs and helltides get boring fast. Its the same crap over and over. Game needs variety of content. Different stuff to do and not talking about different ways of killing monsters. PROPER crafting systems are needed and im not talking about going to the blacksmith. Actually going out in the world and farming stuff. Like the herbs but doing different activites.D4 i think will never change unless the devs realise they need to TAKE A PAGE OUT OF World of Warcraft and turn it into a MMOARPG.
Chat is dead trying to sell and trade almost non exsistant they also need to add dungeon q for uber bosses tired of spamming for an hour or making a group for people to leave after 1 run make it you go to dungeon add the mats and it q you up easy.
Last epoch has seasons to but you can enjoy the same content while playing your first created character without torturing yourself each new season doing the same nonsense over and over again! Blizz/Activision has the tendency of doing this BS on every IP they have just to troll their playerbase!
Even with all of the notes and information, I'm seeing a pattern to play the even seasons and skip the odd ones. Season 2 wasn't too bad. Season 4 was the version of the game we should have had at launch. The goal should be to increase replay value and trying multiple classes/builds like in season 4. Boost lesser utilized builds and paragon board stats. We could use 5 skills and 5 innate perks per skill tree tier, including 10 options within the final tier. Each item type should have a unique weapon (why don't we have unique crossbows, focuses, totems, 1h maces, etc)
the idea that ARPGs have to have seasons is a fallacy.
It is lazy tweaking some minor aspects of the game to give you the illusion of being fresh; recycled 💩 is still 💩
Agreed! I've hated seasons since the inception. Just divides the player base with weak fomo
What are other alternatives to incentive players to want to come back though? Once we have fully decked out characters.
@@victorsoto4821 there are plenty of alternatives, the issue is ARPG players balk at them because of this weird intrinsic belief that those alternatives dont belong in the genre (a fallacy). a simple alternative for "fake obsolescence" is to scale item power. as opposed to forcing people to restart a toon every 90days, you can impart shorter sprints with releasing chase items that exceed the "seasons" item power. as an example: 925 is the highest in D4 right now. 2 weeks into the season, they can up the item power to 935 and tweak drop rates. this expands item choice for those who are chasing ubers and those who get 935 drops (which theoretically would outperform 925 ubers in certain affixes/criteria).
mechanics that are introduced as "new season" i.e. malignant hearts, vampiric powers can simply be rolled into a themed event. MMOs do this to great effect. the proof is in the pudding anyway - diehards blow through the current seasonal content anyway and it all devolves into some patterned workflow (helltide, pits, infernal horde) that have little to no impact on whether you have to restart a toon to get there or not. its just making a decision on how you want this "looter shooter" to be.
ARPGs, by and large, would benefit greatly by synthesizing MMORPG elements that cater to a broader audience that have already solved the player-retention problem.
Ladders have existed since the beginning of diablo, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about lol
See you in October for Szn 6
I'm seeing comments from people saying we need more endgame. I'm kind of tired of all the different things I need to do to keep up. I'm kind of happy ubers will be dropping from helltide chests now too.
I find myself looking back to D3's simplicity.
I liked you casually correcting bellular on the pronounciation of the word 'kaput'. Also, he used it incorrectly, I believe. Currency evaporates, it's not broken.
An actual good take by Bellular. Hardcore definitely feels a lot more meaningful.
they better make it so we still get an iron wolf style quest n get gear n shit or I'll be pussed
Man they saying they tried going in the Diablo 2 direction scares me, they have no idea wtf they are doing.
There was never anything diablo 2 about diablo 4.
That's just marketing talk.
and that's a good thing. I don't need to spend another 20 years grinding the same two bosses in Diablo 2.
They did all the bad, gems max stacks were at 50. In Diablo 3 they could stacked to 100k+ in gem bag. They used the inventory system from 2 should have used 3's inventory system and improved upon it. All the boss mats should stack higher living steel stacks should cap at least 100 not 50 same with blood. Or at the very add a another tab next to consumables and use it for the boss mats. Now that they have pets why can't they auto salvage commons; rares, and epics liked Diablo 3 did. Vendors sell trash ancestral from 450k to 950k rares to epics. They only pay 20k for legendary ancestrals. They used triple the sell cost to actually give players incentive to pick them up.
I am in the crowd that I need D4 to be just like D2. If its more like D3, I am not as excited
Like D2 in what sense, D2 has no endgame?
well it was with the ubers... and people HATED it.
Trust me people will HATE diablo 2 in 2024...
@@akhsdenlew1861 I couldn't get back into Diablo 2 I can't stand the inventory system and management.
@@Juggs_WoW people liked d2 because there was an actual community to play with, an economy which makes farming actually worth something, and purpose to restart new characters. Even today you could easily have fun making 3 sorcs because there's literally 3 elemental builds that are all viable. D4 is a huge boring waste of time. have fun alone grinding so that only you can use your item that nobody gives 2 shits about because you cant give it to them anyway.
I got boring farming angel breath and nethiron
I mean they just need to listen to players that are playing their game then they’ll be okay I don’t get why companies don’t get that yet when they say a class is bad a class is bad get to work on some buffs and balance them no reason barb is just cracked and they are scared to buff every other class it doesn’t make sense we can’t compensate for the bad with the paragon and skill tree either
The hair looks perfect rob , good lad ❤
I played season 4 and enjoyed it. But I will not be playing season 5.
I wish the game stopped being about the grind and started adding more content. I LOVED the campaign. The whole reason I bought Diablo IV was because I fell in love with the lore and the story of Diablo II.
I learned that Diablo II was about the grind after I did the campaign in Diablo IV and decided to check Reddit to see what people are saying about the game, lol.
Is it me or all odd seasons are garbage? seeya at the expansion....
Rob = Beavis. Wudijo = Buthead.
yea when you see druids doing 2 damage. sorcs nerfed to hell on release. ETC devs who didn't have a clue on how to play the game. Overall I have said they should have fired all the devs on day one. Shout about ptr...bullshit its just a way for someone to do their job for them.and I was surprised that everything wasn't nerfed into the ground.
I played D4 Season 4, and I had fun until the end game, where the build I liked and enjoyed playing was useless. Now I'm playing Elden Ring 😂
I actually HATE the seasonable concept of D4. I came back for Season 4 but I dont think I can be bothered to create a new character for Season 5. They are going to start doing Seasonal Characters in Division 2 as well so that will end that game for me too.
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I feel like we need new fame filter like d3 or even d2. So you can group better. Plus they should balance pit group mode and solo boss farming
more stash plz
Blizzard Balance Team : The barbarian is too strong, let's nerf the Sorc.
1:17 why do they think that lol.d4 got like what,10 ubers lol ofcourse people get mad if it dont drop..if that was 50 it was other story
i started playing D4 is season 4. its horrible. no sets, useless uniques, horrible loot rewards, etc. blizz has been clueless about the direction of the game. classes unbalanced, majority of spells not viable at all. should i go on...?