" THREE GIANT STEPS " 1957 NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD CENTRALIZED TRAFFIC CONTROL XD14274

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  • @greglivo
    @greglivo 4 місяці тому +14

    Lots of beautiful first generation diesels in this film. I've never heard of the Flexi-Van service before. I'll bet the poor guy pushing with all of his might to rotate the container wishes he'd never heard of it either.

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for your comment and for being a sub!

    • @kevinkwiatkowski7197
      @kevinkwiatkowski7197 3 місяці тому +3

      Just imagine doing that for eight hours, he dosent.want any over time

    • @zanelindsay1267
      @zanelindsay1267 3 місяці тому +3

      I saw lots of those Flexi-vans on NYC in the 1960's. Didn't know one guy could rotate it on the car. I reckon they were just demonstrating that one [straining] guy could rotate the container; probably not how it was routinely done!

  • @andyinsdca
    @andyinsdca 4 місяці тому +11

    It's interesting to see that NYC was *ALMOST THERE* with containerization.

    • @justforever96
      @justforever96 4 місяці тому +3

      The most important part of containerization is getting the shipping and trucking industry to standardize on your design. That's why they are international standard containers. is there any chance that the world would adopt their proprietary container system, or that they would allow it? Although I'm sure this was one of the things that directly led to that result. I don't think they just gave up on it, it wasn't long after this that standard containers were adopted, although it took a while for them to really take over. Who is to say that the international container wasn't directly result of this, an adaptation of the idea with improvement m

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 4 місяці тому

      @@justforever96 It wasn't. Containers came about to get cargo on and off ships quickly, specifically to get military cargo from the US to Viet Nam during the war there. This was strictly a US effort, led by one man, as I recall. The current international standards were initially just a rubber stamp on what had already been designed for one shipping line. So yes, the world adopted a proprietary container shape. While the containers are specified in metric dimensions everywhere but in the US, the containers are marked as 20 foot, 40 foot, and 53 foot. The metric dimensions are just the metric representations of the English dimensions.
      During this era various railroads were trying piggyback, roadrailer, and about three other forms of semi-containerization. Several of them had promise, and I think one of them is still in partial use on the descendent of whichever Eastern railroad originally invented it. However, flat cars and well cars to take standard containers have vastly surpassed the cargo carrying capacity of any attempts the railroads came up with.

  • @JazznRealHipHop
    @JazznRealHipHop 4 місяці тому +6

    Hmmm maybe I should buy stock in New York Central

    • @azmike1
      @azmike1 4 місяці тому

      Too late.

  • @helicopterharry5101
    @helicopterharry5101 4 місяці тому +12

    Speed of the Freight train has almost doubled because they can now use passenger tracks
    This was the beginning of the end for American passenger trains. Now freight has priority on passenger tracks. Who would use a transit system where being delayed is part of normal procedure.

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 4 місяці тому +2

      Originally there were two reasons for separate passenger and freight tracks. The first was obviously so that passengers could run around freight easily. The second was that freight is heavier, and it tears up the track a whole lot quicker. This doesn't hurt the freight that much, since it is relatively slow, but it pretty quickly makes the track almost unusable for passenger traffic at any decent speed, since the cars bob, dip, and weave all over the place from the ruts in the track profile. The people in the back rooms knew this very well, but the people in the front office didn't give a damn, as they already saw that passenger traffic was going away.

  • @manhoot
    @manhoot 4 місяці тому +10

    It's important to remain on the right side of the tracks.

    • @Xardueth
      @Xardueth 4 місяці тому +2

      Yessir!

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 4 місяці тому

      CTC allows trains to utilize either track, traffic depending. That's the beauty of it. Still in use!

  • @azmike1
    @azmike1 4 місяці тому +1

    It seems that "flexi-van" is more efficient than today's container yards? No? Enlighten me please.

  • @aviatortrucker6285
    @aviatortrucker6285 4 місяці тому +2

    1957 automation, then total bankruptcy within the next 5 years or so for the NYC System.

  • @65gtotrips
    @65gtotrips 4 місяці тому +2

    I dunno about that Flexi-Van as it appeared to put a whole lot of stress on the front and rear of the trailer.

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 4 місяці тому +3

    3:50: Causing the Empire State Express to switch tracks was wrong, since the train would have to slow down to 45 mph to negotiate the crossover turnouts and pass the freight. Better to have the freight do all that work, and the Empire State wouldn't have lost time.

    • @azmike1
      @azmike1 4 місяці тому

      Agreed.

  • @zanelindsay1267
    @zanelindsay1267 3 місяці тому

    These vintage films are rather entertaining with their old-style narration drama. I found it interesting that the primary topic is about newly installed CTC, Centralized Traffic Control. I grew up next to the NYC mainline in upstate New York. I was just a tot when four tracks were changed to two main tracks with CTC which was claimed to handle more traffic, more epediently. A large signal bridge (originally spanning four tracks) and crossovers near our house provided considerable fascination for me as a child. I saw lots of those Flexi-van cars on the NYC back in the 1960's.

  • @davidwilliams1060
    @davidwilliams1060 4 місяці тому +1

    A lot of good information, thanks.

  • @mikemidulster
    @mikemidulster 4 місяці тому +2

    '42,000 lbs', What's the point in having 'tons'?

    • @andyinsdca
      @andyinsdca 4 місяці тому +3

      It's more precise, 21T could be 42,000lb or, 41,900 or 42,173.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 4 місяці тому +3

      Highway/truck regulations are noted in pounds, not tons.

  • @65gtotrips
    @65gtotrips 4 місяці тому

    @00:47 Engine, power unit, power unit, engine

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 4 місяці тому

      Or in the terms of the time, and ABBA consist.

  • @marstondavis
    @marstondavis 4 місяці тому

    The Vanderbilt's would be proud of this.

  • @samh6761
    @samh6761 4 місяці тому +5

    "A 6 and 1 quarter million dollar project". In today's world, that project would be budgeted at 6.25 billion, and end up costing twice as much due to budget overruns. Progress!

  • @CrabMan2539
    @CrabMan2539 4 місяці тому +2

    3:14 Nowadays it would be "To avoid stopping the freight, we pulled the passenger train to the side to allow the freight train to pass despite a (never enforced) law prohibiting that making the passenger train 4 hours late since this happened several other times on its journey."

  • @J_Calvin_Hobbes
    @J_Calvin_Hobbes 11 місяців тому +1

    👍

  • @amazing50000
    @amazing50000 3 місяці тому +1

    This is now called the MTA Metro North Railroad (at least in the New York City Area) and Amtrak.

  • @J_Calvin_Hobbes
    @J_Calvin_Hobbes 4 місяці тому +4

    thumb 👍

  • @carltonkeys6205
    @carltonkeys6205 4 місяці тому +2

    11years later they took over Pennsylvania rail road

    • @stopsign997
      @stopsign997 4 місяці тому +3

      Edit…..11 years later they merged with PRR to avoid bankruptcy which resulted in a financial catastrophe

  • @evan12697
    @evan12697 4 місяці тому

    coltrane reference