Single shots can still be considered to be like a real shotgun, don’t forget that slug shells are single shots of solid lead that doesn’t spread not all shotgun shells are bird shots
You should do a new series called "Is It Worth It" where you give your opinion if something that is skeptical either be gear or a marker be worth it to buy
Pretty smart except it would seem that one of those 6mm bbs would throw off the trajectory of the FS round if one of them hits the back fin of the round coming out of the barrel before it has time to Spread
Because of your review I went and got one, and then did some dremel and tap work to get it to take a remote line and resprung it to get velocity up to 280 and now it's by far my favorite marker. Thanks for putting eyeballs on these fun guns!
I completely agree. Something that's made this well really makes me wish the velocity didn't suck so much. I wondered for a second if it'd work better with green gas, but there's just no way it'd shoot any faster....total letdown :(
i have the first model the aps cam870 model T ( T = tactical, pistol grip and m4 adjustable stock in this case) it uses the system where you gas upp every shell with co2 or hpa with a loading adaptor. firing speed from barrel single shot is around 85 m/s, it has a aluminium barrel but you can still shot for example .68 cal paintballs including first strike rounds, and 6 mm airsoft rounds including the paintball version and if you whant to go a little more destruktiv you can use 4.5, 5.5 and 6.35 mm steel bb`s but you will wear down the barrel faster unless you can make a custom made Remington 870 steel barrel fit on the gun, then it is rock n roll!
Pat Best there isn't one I think the reason for that is because it was made for cqb indoor airsoft and I think most airsoft gun you can't change the velocity
I used this for paintball and worked very well. It was for my brothers party and I was lent this gun by a ref ( sounds like bull crap I know) but we dominated the enemy team, and I didn't die once in spite of many close quarter engagements.
Fun that you called the brass/shellcatcher a scrotum. The Swedish military used a similar for years on their rifles and smg's, it was widely called "elefantpung" = Elephant scrotum.
Would be a great dorm home defense shotgun. Pepper ball in the chamber and 2 in the tube, 3 solid nylon defense rounds. That would definitely do some work. (In places where a standard shotgun isn't the best option) personally I'm choosing my 12 Guage with Winchester superx 00. But I could see this being a decent defense weapon if need be. 🤔
I was curious at how the 6mm spread would work. Thanks for showing this.. I have to buy and put this in our videos someday, hopefully a version that runs HPA. Thanks again Too Tall
I think the biggest thing putting me off of this is as cool as the shell ejection looks the shells are not cheap and they'll easily get lost and i don't want to be scrambling around looking for them after every shot in a game but apart from that I really want one
Zachary Mcginnis Yeah I saw that and while that solves the problem it ruins how cool the ejecting shells look but there's no way round it it's one or the other
I think that using this paintgun against other unique designs such as the Goblin, the HDR50/TR50 .50 caliber revolver, or their HD Double Barrel shotgun, or any of the lower capacity pistols, revolvers or bolt-action rifles sold or built by players. These types of markers are slower to reload and of lower capacity placing them at a disadvantage when used against hopper fed semis, pumps or Magfed markers as primary guns.Their unique designs make them interesting and fun to play with, but they will probably take the role of backup guns or a field might consider specialty games where everybody can use such products against each other on a more level playing field. I think this would make for an interesting yet fair game for the players and they can more fully enjoy these types of paintguns.
The only issue I've got with this one are the shells. Finding those again even on a speed ball field would be a royal pain in the ass, and hell forbid someone steps on one.
ahaha! Funny. Finally a positive one for MCS. I think they deserve it. I would personnaly find another technology for the air and some way to chrono it If I were them. I am curius to know what you would say about a 468 or PTR, because they seems to be THE magfed marker actually.
I own a 468 (2016 model) and I can say that I've had issues with air leaking from multiple areas, however with about 10 minutes and some plumbers tape/seal I was able to patch every leak (some threads just needed a little extra sealant because of winter). Amazingly reliable as all parts are able to be worked on without tools. Lokbolt is sick because I've never chopped a ball even when they are as soft as gum drops. Idk about the PTR price but the extra upgrades for the price don't seem worth it. Regular 468 is the better way IMO for price/use.
I have an old hurricane. I should say a phenom with takamo. I have the lock bolt, and, ooowlowwrd, how any other brand is trying to copy that? I never broked any ball.
I feel like this would be super effective in a paintball game. If you are effective at using a shotgun and you know how you could do some damage with that thing.
@@m6dspartan903 I love my 870 but at the same time I hate it. The quality of Remington dropped like crazy you either have to buy an older one or a Police model because they are made in a different factory with better quality control. My Remington 870 has given me several problems that you'd never ever get with a mossberg 500 and if you did mossberg would immediately fix it in a heart beat or send you parts to fix it. Mossberg you can blow one of their shotguns up from abusing it and firing like a 45lc from a 410 shotgun and they'd fix or replace it. Lol You can take a maverick 88 and buse the fuck out of it til you break something, call them, tell them you broke the gun from abusing it and they'll send replacement parts in the mail. Lol
@@GiuseppeSimonetti I haven't had issues with mine but I believe you. I have a wood and matte black 870 and it shoots like a dream for me but I believe u
@@m6dspartan903 It's a problem with their quality control since they were bought it. Remington isnt Remington anymore. They were bought out like 10 years ago or some shit.
If you take the primer out of empty shotgun shells, would they work too? Once the shell is used and the primer is out it looks alot like the shell you held up
If I could get one that would load a shell that had 3-4 .50 cal paintballs and fired that load at around 200-250 and was powered on a 13ci in the stock, I'd be into it.
I've been thinking about getting one of these for awhile to use in paintball and to try to get into airsoft but I'm just not shure if any paintball field would me use this
Have Defcon paintball ever made a video about the Tacamo/Rap4/MCSUS Magfed Conversion Kits? Now the newer models with the lok bolt mechanical eyes and all that jazz sound really interesting.
I wonder how it would be to shoot Grimburg Joules with bb's behind would love to test that out maybe good for home defense only thing I'd change is the fps a bit higher please😊
No recoil? :( also they should create something that use the gas and make a smaller boom, sure waste co2 or gas but you get to boom boom too, i'd be intrested in that
Alright, Firstly, the wad is the plastic cup that holds shot, or BBs in this case. Secondly, Sabot is pronounced 'Sāy-boe'. Third, Sabot is a type of slug, or large singular bullet for a shotgun, as opposed to bird, buck, or target shot. (Shot is what we call the varying sizes of metal balls loaded in a shotshell. In the wad.) Addendum: Sabot slugs are actually different from normal slugs, in that Sabots have a wad in each shell, much like shot does. Typical slugs don't have any wad at all.
So I wanted to get this gun and a guy from stingray in Brooklyn ny told me anything the ejects is no good so I got the 2 barrel shot gun but I really wanted the gun I just want other options
Im using Madbull PB XM-4 in my underbarrel grenade launcher as "shotgun". 4 Paintballs fit in a row inside the Shell and when you fire, those 4 balls spread like a shotgun should. Thats for me the most milsim you can get with paintballs in case of shotgun spreading. This bad boy looks nice but due to the fact it uses CO2 you will have for sure a ton of problems in winter/cold days. Also the fill nipple and the inlet will wear off by time and i didn´t saw you mentioning if they are replaceable. But by first look it doesnt seems like you can and should. Looks cool but why no Airstock, why so much plastic. You can also have Revolver remakes, but besides the fact the drum rolling makes the first 5 minutes fun you will figure out that the barrel is very crappy made and then for such a "beauty" 300€ but on the field totally useless, is a joke.
Imagine the ref’s reaction when he sees a shell come out of your gun.
Then you realize its the wrong shotgun
@@TwigPB Then you hear pumped up kicks playing
@@Mafia_Boss_Donut pumped up kicks russian/ukrainian
I think I would get in trouble for bringing this to my field
@@imperialwarphotographer4346 FS T15 and TMC: allow us to introduce ourselves
I can tell this channel will take off if you keep up your quality. Great stuff!
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Love ur vids
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Didn't expect you here
Single shots can still be considered to be like a real shotgun, don’t forget that slug shells are single shots of solid lead that doesn’t spread not all shotgun shells are bird shots
"HA HA HA (PUMPS) HO HO HO" best quote 2018
They should add that qoute to the box art
You should do a new series called "Is It Worth It" where you give your opinion if something that is skeptical either be gear or a marker be worth it to buy
Lol
I know this is late but. Yes.
*Racks shot gun*
Alex:*FRENCH MODE ACTIVATED *
I load 6mm paintballs and then use a fs round as the shell cover...giving you both a spread and an accurate round.
Pretty smart except it would seem that one of those 6mm bbs would throw off the trajectory of the FS round if one of them hits the back fin of the round coming out of the barrel before it has time to Spread
Because of your review I went and got one, and then did some dremel and tap work to get it to take a remote line and resprung it to get velocity up to 280 and now it's by far my favorite marker. Thanks for putting eyeballs on these fun guns!
That's friggin sweet
Uhm.thAts Badass. 🇺🇲🤜💥🤛🇺🇲
Do the 468 PTR!! Love your channel man
Tureta PB this is going to be expensive haha
*150-195 FPS is completely unacceptable.*
*The 6mm loads are great!*
Bulwark1911 your charging it wrong
I completely agree. Something that's made this well really makes me wish the velocity didn't suck so much. I wondered for a second if it'd work better with green gas, but there's just no way it'd shoot any faster....total letdown :(
Mag Fed Ops it's a shotgun for God's sake not a fucking rifle you dumbfuck
Jester Purdy best reply ever. I hope this is Nate
Jester Purdy ok, someone needs their diaper changed.
hmmm, such a magnificent marker - but that mini "poof" firing is so anticlimatic. Hahaha. I just expected it to sound more like "BANG!"
Thought same
Its not a real shotgun dumbass
Wire a mini speaker into the stock and put a switch on the trigger so it plays your shotgun sound of choice when shooting
i have the first model the aps cam870 model T ( T = tactical, pistol grip and m4 adjustable stock in this case) it uses the system where you gas upp every shell with co2 or hpa with a loading adaptor. firing speed from barrel single shot is around 85 m/s, it has a aluminium barrel but you can still shot for example .68 cal paintballs including first strike rounds, and 6 mm airsoft rounds including the paintball version and if you whant to go a little more destruktiv you can use 4.5, 5.5 and 6.35 mm steel bb`s but you will wear down the barrel faster unless you can make a custom made Remington 870 steel barrel fit on the gun, then it is rock n roll!
Everything about this shotgun is awesome except for the sound it makes when you fire.
It needs more bang.
Is there no velocity adjustment?
Pat Best there isn't one I think the reason for that is because it was made for cqb indoor airsoft and I think most airsoft gun you can't change the velocity
Duct tape will fix it.
I used this for paintball and worked very well. It was for my brothers party and I was lent this gun by a ref ( sounds like bull crap I know) but we dominated the enemy team, and I didn't die once in spite of many close quarter engagements.
Fun that you called the brass/shellcatcher a scrotum.
The Swedish military used a similar for years on their rifles and smg's, it was widely called "elefantpung" = Elephant scrotum.
I love it how the shells eject from the gun. Just by watching, that shotgun is DAM!
This thing might actually get me playing paintball again! I love me a shotty! I only wish they had a Mossberg 590 version.
Sub MOA they do I’m pretty sure
these guns make an impressive bang when the go off in airsoft
Would be a great dorm home defense shotgun. Pepper ball in the chamber and 2 in the tube, 3 solid nylon defense rounds. That would definitely do some work. (In places where a standard shotgun isn't the best option) personally I'm choosing my 12 Guage with Winchester superx 00. But I could see this being a decent defense weapon if need be. 🤔
I want some gameplay vids of that thing now.
Do it too tall, for science and all
I was curious at how the 6mm spread would work. Thanks for showing this..
I have to buy and put this in our videos someday, hopefully a version that runs HPA.
Thanks again Too Tall
Airsoft BB spread is pretty good, but the Tokyo Marui's and Golden Eagles are better cause they don't eject shells
Love the enthusiasm and i will get a varient for sure
I think the biggest thing putting me off of this is as cool as the shell ejection looks the shells are not cheap and they'll easily get lost and i don't want to be scrambling around looking for them after every shot in a game but apart from that I really want one
He only mentioned it once in the video, but it comes with a net that can hang off the side to catch the ejecting shells
Zachary Mcginnis Yeah I saw that and while that solves the problem it ruins how cool the ejecting shells look but there's no way round it it's one or the other
Almost any shell catcher if not all will fit
Nice video, this gun looks sick. Thanks for your advice.
I think you geeked out a lot... Funny as hell... Wish we could use one in Australia...
I think that using this paintgun against other unique designs such as the Goblin, the HDR50/TR50 .50 caliber revolver, or their HD Double Barrel shotgun, or any of the lower capacity pistols, revolvers or bolt-action rifles sold or built by players. These types of markers are slower to reload and of lower capacity placing them at a disadvantage when used against hopper fed semis, pumps or Magfed markers as primary guns.Their unique designs make them interesting and fun to play with, but they will probably take the role of backup guns or a field might consider specialty games where everybody can use such products against each other on a more level playing field. I think this would make for an interesting yet fair game for the players and they can more fully enjoy these types of paintguns.
The only issue I've got with this one are the shells. Finding those again even on a speed ball field would be a royal pain in the ass, and hell forbid someone steps on one.
ahaha! Funny.
Finally a positive one for MCS. I think they deserve it.
I would personnaly find another technology for the air and some way to chrono it If I were them.
I am curius to know what you would say about a 468 or PTR, because they seems to be THE magfed marker actually.
I own a 468 (2016 model) and I can say that I've had issues with air leaking from multiple areas, however with about 10 minutes and some plumbers tape/seal I was able to patch every leak (some threads just needed a little extra sealant because of winter). Amazingly reliable as all parts are able to be worked on without tools. Lokbolt is sick because I've never chopped a ball even when they are as soft as gum drops. Idk about the PTR price but the extra upgrades for the price don't seem worth it. Regular 468 is the better way IMO for price/use.
I have an old hurricane. I should say a phenom with takamo. I have the lock bolt, and, ooowlowwrd, how any other brand is trying to copy that? I never broked any ball.
This ain’t even a MCS product tho
It's not?? Well... I think it is, no? Now I have a doubt
well,,, I really think it is. Check there youtube channel
I feel like most fields and people would freak out if you walked out onto the field with this. Pretty cool though, definitely a cool concept
This would be fun for stock class/limited ammo play.
I feel like this would be super effective in a paintball game. If you are effective at using a shotgun and you know how you could do some damage with that thing.
Wow, that's really cool and realistic like my real Remington 870.
I love my 870
@@m6dspartan903 I love my 870 but at the same time I hate it. The quality of Remington dropped like crazy you either have to buy an older one or a Police model because they are made in a different factory with better quality control. My Remington 870 has given me several problems that you'd never ever get with a mossberg 500 and if you did mossberg would immediately fix it in a heart beat or send you parts to fix it. Mossberg you can blow one of their shotguns up from abusing it and firing like a 45lc from a 410 shotgun and they'd fix or replace it. Lol You can take a maverick 88 and buse the fuck out of it til you break something, call them, tell them you broke the gun from abusing it and they'll send replacement parts in the mail. Lol
@@GiuseppeSimonetti I haven't had issues with mine but I believe you. I have a wood and matte black 870 and it shoots like a dream for me but I believe u
@@m6dspartan903 It's a problem with their quality control since they were bought it. Remington isnt Remington anymore. They were bought out like 10 years ago or some shit.
@@GiuseppeSimonetti honestly it's sad, the 870s are so classic
THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS
If you take the primer out of empty shotgun shells, would they work too? Once the shell is used and the primer is out it looks alot like the shell you held up
If I could get one that would load a shell that had 3-4 .50 cal paintballs and fired that load at around 200-250 and was powered on a 13ci in the stock, I'd be into it.
Just modify it
You should try the HDX .68 ide love to know your thoughts on it. Sadly no ejecto shell action though.
It hasn’t been released in Canada yet. When they are released, we will do a video on it.
I find the 6mm better because you can load way more into a mag and stuff like that
Velocity is way too low, but the 6mm paint bbs are cool
I like to keep this for close encounters
Could this be the ultimate carpenter bee killer? Load with course sand or sea salt?
not practical, but totally awesome. that's great.
Perfect sidearm too.
THATS WHAT I'M SAYIN!
How would your carry it? Solder strap?
tactical squire.
Oh man that looks sooo cool and fun to shoot 😍
I've been thinking about getting one of these for awhile to use in paintball and to try to get into airsoft but I'm just not shure if any paintball field would me use this
it shoots well under all fields limit, but i would recommend asking your local fields about it before you drop the cash.
Have Defcon paintball ever made a video about the Tacamo/Rap4/MCSUS Magfed Conversion Kits? Now the newer models with the lok bolt mechanical eyes and all that jazz sound really interesting.
we have not done that yet, we will totally look into it.
Awesome! Looking forward to it!
I guess I'm used to shooting real shotguns, this was a let down and the power was weak as hell
2:46 you're right. one ball is not a shotgun. its like a long deagle
Make it work on HPA with adapter for remote line and yeah..
But where can I buy one?
Biggest downside is the shells. Is there a way to make a paintball gun that doesnt need them?
As a duck hunter. Love seeing that shotgun is a left handed gun 😂😝I want this
For that much, just get an 870 and do trapshooting.
@virgxl sir if you have ever shot trap you would disagree with that statement
@virgxl ok sorry your right honestly I was just basking in american glory and didnt really think. Have a nice night
This video put a big smile on my face 😁
Hey alex you shooting form is a little bit off,what you have to do is put you elbow up your putting to much pressure on your hand
I think you should try the other cam MK shot gun it's 4 of them now
Ok now for a real question. I haven't played NPPA or NPA paintball since 2011 but isn't regulation like 250fps
Rm
Very cool. Hope there is a Spaz version
The spaz trades are very protected
Upvoted for french jackhammer at the beginning.
Do they still make these?
I wonder how it would be to shoot Grimburg Joules with bb's behind would love to test that out maybe good for home defense only thing I'd change is the fps a bit higher please😊
I would like you show step by step how to load the shot gun and the 50 caliber gun revolver
Can you use an adapter to fill it from a 20oz co2 tank instead of buying the disposable ones
You should do a Tippmann A-5 does it suck video
Sadly it's not showing up on your website
Try some self defense ammo or some steel bbs lol i would love to see what all it will shoot
Idk why there are absolutely no gameplays on this gun
I bought one and , everything time I reloading , the shells get stuck, not sure it’s fabric defect or ...this airgun sucks! But I need my money back
I wish the shells could hold three FSRs or .68 to make it more practical. Maybe a 13 ci or remote stock work so much better.
those two things are exactly what i would love to see as well.
Brad the older shell that you have to air up could probably fit two fs but it would not be worth it because it would probably just roll out the barrel
Brad
Brad well this was never designed for paintball it was made for Airsoft it’s just a coincidence that the bore fits a paintball
No recoil? :( also they should create something that use the gas and make a smaller boom, sure waste co2 or gas but you get to boom boom too, i'd be intrested in that
Alright,
Firstly, the wad is the plastic cup that holds shot, or BBs in this case.
Secondly, Sabot is pronounced 'Sāy-boe'.
Third, Sabot is a type of slug, or large singular bullet for a shotgun, as opposed to bird, buck, or target shot. (Shot is what we call the varying sizes of metal balls loaded in a shotshell. In the wad.)
Addendum: Sabot slugs are actually different from normal slugs, in that Sabots have a wad in each shell, much like shot does. Typical slugs don't have any wad at all.
Could you use this like a first strike sniper rifle? How many shots per charge?
How many shot can you get before refilling the co2 in the gun
your reaction to the pump
i told u when u do the reviw of the 6 mm paintballs
You rock you got me into paint ball
What color is that dye mask? I love the subdued look
Saw off as much of the stock as you can and the barrel and it could be a bad ass sidearm.
Love to hear your opinion on the Crosman
Jester Valentine which one?
Defcon Paintball Gear The revolver I think it's the crosman 3357
What happens when you play at sgt splatters and the shel gets full of sand
Where can I buy one. And can it be shipped through the USPS?
Can you try the 250 Caliber paintball
Had to get myself one of these. I just wanted it in my life.
Where can I buy one?
Can you use this tipe of gun in an actual paintball field?
where can i get this beauty, the website doesn't have em
So I wanted to get this gun and a guy from stingray in Brooklyn ny told me anything the ejects is no good so I got the 2 barrel shot gun but I really wanted the gun I just want other options
Can you guys review the psychoballistics delta 68 if you guys ever get one??
Im using Madbull PB XM-4 in my underbarrel grenade launcher as "shotgun". 4 Paintballs fit in a row inside the Shell and when you fire, those 4 balls spread like a shotgun should. Thats for me the most milsim you can get with paintballs in case of shotgun spreading. This bad boy looks nice but due to the fact it uses CO2 you will have for sure a ton of problems in winter/cold days. Also the fill nipple and the inlet will wear off by time and i didn´t saw you mentioning if they are replaceable. But by first look it doesnt seems like you can and should. Looks cool but why no Airstock, why so much plastic. You can also have Revolver remakes, but besides the fact the drum rolling makes the first 5 minutes fun you will figure out that the barrel is very crappy made and then for such a "beauty" 300€ but on the field totally useless, is a joke.
Whats the chances of you making one into a sawn off zombie hunter and testing it (shorter barrel no stock) ?
Granger70 already 2 short barreled non stocked variations
if it werrent 450 dollar i would get one
robot797 it’s not
It’s 250
@@liamfisketjon7365 where
@@liamfisketjon7365 I can still get a REAL shotgun for 250 sooooo
You can get a single shotgun for 90 bucks
Can u still get those
Can't seem to find the gun on your website though?
Can this hold a 0.68 pepper ball rounds
when i load my mkii bolt with co2 or green gas, it just sprays the gas right back out the input valve wtf?
I want this just for the spread!
Anyone know if the magazine can be extended to increase capacity? Is this based on any real shotgun platform so that it has compatible parts?
It's based off the Remington M870 but I SERIOUSLY doubt this is compatible with any of the real parts
What if you fill it with real bbs
Can you use for self defense
You should tell me where u got that I want to buy it to have fun with it
Do a does it suck on the Atomic Pickle
Does the cam MK3 work for paintball
Imagine if you put 6mm airsoft bbs in it
Why imagine, that’s literally what they show in the video with paint BBs.