HO Scale KCS 3rd Heavener Yard ops session video
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Detailed video of yard operations on the HO scale KCS 3rd sub. Nearly all trains into and out of the yard are shown. Somewhat long: we condensed a 3 1/2 hour operating session down to 67 minutes.
Begins with a 1 minute 40 second narrated overview - skip that if you want to get right to seeing the trains running.
The RFID system is shown in this video. To learn more about that, see this video: • RFID on the KCS 3rd
Note: This was recorded during the COVID-19 Pandemic. You'll see some people wearing masks, but many others not. All people not wearing masks have been fully vaccinated for a minimum of 20 days.
I drive for a company that works with Union Pacific, and it blows me away to see model railroaders operating their layouts like the real deal!
I've got to fulfill this lifelong dream to build a small switching layout. This looks like too much fun! Thanks!
Thank you for your kind comment and for checking out the video!
I love the fact that people can stay busy doing what they have done and like to do all of their lives and be able to walk away and go do what ever if they do not want to be there anymore. I recently semi retired. Lots of days off from here on out. I'll never stop until I'm just to old because I love what I do. I have been considering this hobby with DCC but not nearly on this scale. Thanx for the video.
Thank you for your comment and for watching! I myself only recently retired (last day was February 2024) and for me, while I did enjoy the challenge of my job, retirement was the right choice for me. I seem to be busier than I was before though! How is that???
You might not want to watch an hour till you give it 7 minutes. This is first-class top-notch model railroading. Best operations I've ever even heard about.
Thank you SO MUCH Blaine, you are very kind! I appreciate your watching and your kind words.
Yes, thank you. I WANTED to see the sorting of an entire train!
Thanks for your comment and for viewing the video!
Fantastic! As a white paint scheme era fan of KCS I enjoyed this even more.
I have learned much about layouts and ops from watching a couple of your vids already. Thanks for recording these.
btw - I know it's been 2 years but I hope 667 got it's dynamics sorted out ;)
Thanks for the comment - good catch on the 667! 👍😎
Excellent integration of action, dispatcher, commas, and informational text. Such a great layout and operational scheme.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I loved your comment about commas! 😂.
Very enjoyable video. The audio/visual, edidting and captions were made it easy to stay with what was going on. As a beginner, I used this as a training film for me lol. I especially liked the yard work, and the use of the rfid and tablet makes me want to do that as well, eventually. Anyway, well done to all involved.
Thank you so much for watching, and for your kind words!
Nice to get to watch the train we delivered to Heavner switched. Had fun that day.
Bob, thank you for coming out to operate. It looks like you might be interested in dispatching. If so, we have docs on the web site or just mark up as the "assistant dispatcher" and learn from one of our veterans. Thanks for making the trip out here - I know it is a bit of a drive!
"venerable GP9's". i agree!
looks like one of the most interesting layouts to operate that I've ever seen.
Thank you for the kind words and for watching!
Very impressive layout, I saw one close to it in Blanchard LA years ago. I spent 41 years going to work at Heavener yard.
You worked in Heavener? Wow! There was a spot/industry called the “Auction House”. Do you have any idea or recollection of what that was used for or what it looked like? I made an educated guess when I modeled it but have no idea if I was close. Thanks for watching!
@@TTownTrainFan Hey my dad started here in Heavener in 1963 and he hasn’t heard of any track called auction house.
Good to see you operating. Had 9 people for Friday meeting day and operations.
Good to see YOU operating too! I'm eager to start getting out more and visit/operate on other model RRs - maybe, YOURS? :-)
@@TTownTrainFan Alaway welcome here can punch some button have op session up and running in mins. Handle up to 12 for good session.
Steve, thanks for a great time. Enjoyed having Mark has the Yardmaster.
Excellent operation session! It was just so cool and looked so realistic! ;)
Thank you Alexandre!
Great video Steve! Can’t wait to be back down there in a few months. Looks like the order of something of the trains have changed since I last ran
We try and change it up and we've added a fair amount of scenery. My next project will be to add the 2nd subdivision. Always moving forward!
Great Video . Always Great to watch.
THANK YOU for watching and your nice comment! That's what keeps me doing these of course!
Very good video. 👍 🤝
Thank you!
You folks are pros. You could work for the railroad! If I were there, I’d be a spectator.
Nah, we're just playin'! :-)
@@TTownTrainFan Ah, but it’s serious fun 🤩
A very nice video and layout. I have plans to expand my own HO scale layout, though I don't think mine will be quite as large (or modern) as this.
It's a great hobby, I wish you the best with it! I think to some it is modern but I'm modeling 1982 so not THAT modern (heck that's 40 years ago!) 🙂 THANK YOU for watching!
@@TTownTrainFan You're quite welcome :). I'd say your layout is more modern, considering I'll be modeling the 1940s-50s period. I also agree that model railroading is a wonderful hobby, though it's probably not for the faint of heart or (exceptionally) light of wallet.
Nice work Steve!! Hope to make it down now that things are getting back to "normal"!!
Thanks for the comment - I'd love to see you out here! Things are fairly normal now - at least here in Oklahoma. :-)
This video is awesome!!! I love the captions, etc.
Thank you - especially since I got criticized about the captions! LOL
The captions helped me understand what was going on and also taught me things I should do and also be aware of on my own railroad. Thanks!!
Simply incredible
This is amazing! I'd love to come visit.
Visitors are always welcome, and, we operate the 4th Saturday of every month at 1 pm CT. You can learn more at our web site at kcs3.webs.com I can't publish my address etc. here on UA-cam for obvious reasons but you can send me a PM from that site. And THANK YOU for watching, and especially your kind words.
Hi what a great video and layout thank you
Thank you so much for viewing!
I really enjoy these operating session videos.
I haven't seen anybody do the RFID system before and I would be very interested in learning more about that. How do you equip the cars and what software and hardware drives the system.
Brandon, thank you for viewing and for leaving this comment. The hardware and RFID tags came from Model Railroad Control Systems. they also have software that comes with it, but I wrote my own to interface with JMRI since that controls all of my car movements. You can see practically everything about it in another of my videos at: ua-cam.com/video/v2rSqCuwZlU/v-deo.html
Great share. Thanks!!
A great video as always. A big Thankyou to you and your crew great to see you all back. A great layout and job representing KCS in the 80s . How many locomotives and cars do you have on the layout?
Thanks for watching the video. I'm not really sure how many, I've never counted. More than a few to be sure! Maybe 70 locos, 700 cars - but that's a guess (I have all of that in JMRI but it gives me a list and I'd have to manually count them - I'm too lazy for that!)
*Question 1:* Did prototypical KCS trains that dropped and added cars at Heavener during the early 1980s arrive pre-blocked, such that the Heavener drill or trim job could simply pull the entire Heavener drop as a single coherent cut from one end of the arriving train?
*Question 2:* If these trains did arrive preblocked... did the Heavener drill job block cars added to these trains in sequence for 2nd and 4th subdivision terminals that the trains would work down the line (i.e. _Watts, Gentry, Neosho, Pittsburg_ northbound and _DeQueen, Ashdown, Texarkana_ southbound)?
Another superb operations video from an impressive layout. Cheers
You have significant knowledge of the KCS - and railroading. I’m impressed!
Q1 the answer is yes: all of the cars for Heavener were in a single block, both on the prototype and on our mode. So the drill always pulls them as one unit and then classifies them further by destination on the 3rd sub. They took advantage of that in our video for train 2 when the Yardmaster wanted to get the crew on the train and the train out without waiting for the drill to sort all the cars on that single outbound cut.
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Q2: the trim blocks cars by destination, whether by 3rd sub location for local trains, or major yard if off the 3rd sub. The terminals (major yards) on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th subs were Kansas City, Pittsburg, Heavener and Pittsburg. Plus to your point, #77 and #78, the Super Dogs worked the terminals plus Watts, Neosho, Sallisaw and a few others. Some of the other towns you mentioned were served by Dodgers.
Disclaimer: I know very little about KCS operations south of Shreveport.
😊 thanks
Thank you for watching!
Awesome bro
Thank you for watching and leaving a comment!
Nice Layout and a great Yard. How many people do you run the sessions? Greets from Germany
Danka! Typically around 11 people including dispatcher.
At about 41 minutes there’s a BN coal train that heads in to the yard for a crew change, and the dynamic brakes are mentioned. Is this the operator pushing the function button to make this happen?
By the way, I keep coming back to this and I think Sallisaw. I’ve never operated anything besides my small 2.5’x4’ N scale loop with two industries and a staging track.
Really nice, Ive subscribed
Very kind of you, THANK YOU for watching and leaving a comment!
I’ve watched a number of your operating sessions. Thank you for taking the time to share. Steve I hear the KCS might be purchased by the CP. Your thoughts?
Not a fan but I'd prefer the CP to the CN: The CN already has the former IC north-south route to the Gulf, if they have both they may severely cut traffic on the KCS side. :-(
Very nice ops session. What type of computer system is used for car forwarding on this layout?
Thank you for watching and for your comment. We use JMRI - the Operations section of the Panel Pro app.
@@TTownTrainFan how do you get JMRI to do yard operations? Do you have to stack trains so they arrive at different times? I also tried to get my yard tracks to have specific destinations like yours, but I could not figure out how to make it work
@@JoeG-firehousewhiskey There are several ways to do this in JMRI ops. The way I chose we to set up every yard track as a "C/I" or "Classification/Interchange" track. Then I set up each track to accept setouts from only certain trains, and allow pickups from only one or two trains. Half of my yard services longer distance trains (trains that run to staging) and the other half services trains going to local destinations. So a long-distance or through train would drop cars for local destinations on the various tracks destined for local towns, and pick up cars destined for north or south staging. Locals work the opposite way: they pick up cars for the local town(s) they are servicing from a track dedicated for that, but set out all their cars to the various tracks for trains outbound to staging. Thanks for asking.
Your back!!!! Yeah!!!!
Pandemic put a crimp in the video pipeline! I’ve reached out to my friends to see if any of them will let me shoot videos of their layouts. Thank you for the comment and encouragement!
@@TTownTrainFan your layout and videos are always giving me ideas for my hopeful layout. Glad to have you back and the layout looks great
All we need is a cab ride
Go forward stop right there call pull forward stop right there
I wonder if there is a complete track plan somewhere for KCS 3rd sub. Its probably obvious and I missed it?
That is a fair request. And, I need to get a better quality plan. That said, here are some links to the plans on my web site: LOWER LEVEL uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/15278ad0-6347-4359-81f0-b38499848fbf~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital
UPPER LEVEL uploads.documents.cimpress.io/v1/uploads/61731f43-9be1-465f-ae04-f81567cb47e3~110/original?tenant=vbu-digital (but Waldron branch is out of date 😞
Also in the October 2019 Railroad Model Craftsman magazine there are better maps.
do I spot a Vermont railways tracker trailer at 44:44
It was nice that you did the voice over at the start of the video, but if I wanted to read text I would of purchased a magazine, not sure why you did not add voice over into spots with? You took the time to do the text. As I try and watch this on the TV on the wall, I can not fully read the text on the TV.
Fair comment, I never thought of that. This is the first of my model RR videos that I did with ANY narration, though I do it for my train simulator videos. And I restricted that to before the actual ops video started.
My thinking was, I wanted viewers to experience what it’s really like during our operating sessions: hearing the locomotive sounds, hearing the operators discuss things, etc. Next one I do I’ll try and cut down on the on-screen graphics. I appreciate your comment - I’m always looking to improve.
@@TTownTrainFan text on the screen is fine, just narrate over it at the same time. To be fair I wanted to share this with my ops group. but I know that the video is watched on a smaller TV up in the corner of the big room too. I would suggest just go back and add voice over like in other videos. Up load it as a separate video and it will be more enjoyable for all... Just my suggestion. Thanks for understanding. As some of us listen to a video as much as watch a video. In my case I'm sitting in our home diner with breakfast having to look up and try to read the screen as I'm looking down at my eggs, toast and bacon and drink my OJ trying to do all this at breakfast, yes all at the same time :) Yes, I did give the Video a Thumbs up!
Ya'all couldn't have done this without the girl there doing the thinking.
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