What Size Bow Should You Shoot?
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2020
- You've heard of bow length, and know that you need a specific size for you, but what exactly makes up the length of the bow? And why is it important at all?
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Learn all about this, and how to choose your recurve bow size in this video.
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I started with a 68" bow and, after a couple years of working on getting stretched out more (more for me, that is, with just a 25" draw), and keeping in mind the shape of my face and string contact, switched to a 66" setup. Been shooting that ever since.
I started shooting age 14 with a 45lbs 200cm (79") english longbow. I didn't know anything about archery back then and tought myself. It took some time to build enough strenght to pull it back and i developed many bad habits that took a long time to get rid off. For anyone looking to get into archery i can only recommend to start with a light bow you can draw easily to develope the technique first and step up the game later. Would have saved me from some frustration and pain if i had followed that advice myself.
Thanks you. Very well explained
Excellent video, well presented. Subscribed just on the basis of this!
Thanks for posting this video series - it's been very helpful and informative.
Thanks so much! You're very welcome!
I really don't understand this sizing... It seems like the only way to get to a bow with the lengths mentioned in the video is with a custom ILF combination(?). For a beginner looking to get into an entry level bow, that cost may somewhat prohibitive. But, the complete bows that are available come in MUCH shorter than is being recommended. I.e. - A very common take-down recurve bow length currently available for sale is 62", with max draws of ~28", and seem to have ~20" risers. The PSE Razorback, which I believe is considered a common 'club' or 'rental' bow for new shooters is a 62" bow (w/ a 'Jr' model at 54"). I'm looking at one retailer that offers an 'XL' model of one of their 62" bows that is 64" '...for archers with greater than a 28" draw". Another popular archery retailer has ILF bow combos in 62/64/66 sizes, and a single Longbow in 68". For one-piece models, the general length seems even shorter, with 60"/62" seeming to be at the high end. I understand these are meant to be economical and appeal to a wider audience, but a 6-8" difference is lengths from what this video is recommending seems to be dramatic.
I'm just saying, for a new archer that may come across this video while doing research, it seems to make things even more confusing. I know I am....
the only bow iv ever shot was at summer camp back in high school. my cross country team went to a ymca summer camp so the the bows were meant for kids so im sure it was to small for all of us. it was fun though :)
Hey I thought I might just add in that a archery store in Perth Australia, has been determining the type of bows for people due to their size, seeing as he told my house mate (after a description of my height/weight) he recommended that I don't use anything more than a 58 inch and 40 pound... I thought this was a bit off, and after watching this video, I can see why ordering a 56 inch recurve won't really make a difference compared to the 62 inch, 35 pound that I'm using currently.
Your videos are very informative and very helpful when deciding what types of bows/equipment I should be ordering, tailered to my fit. Thank you so much and keep up the good work mate 🤟
28" draw, I've shot from 68" ILF to 50" Trad. I have to say I had a hell of a lot of fun with the 50", didn't notice stacking and it was very accurate. I will be likely buying that 50" bow next week.
Hello i started archery 7 months ago i bought 68" 35lb bow the draw length 28" i use 30" 500 carbon Arrow.
I have a Olympic style Bow
I have found that i am more accurate using string crawl.
I have never been to a club to learn. I have self taught with You/ jake Kaminski and NuSanel on UA-cam
I was told i am really good in such a short space of time.
I shoot at different
ent distances from
10ft /15ft /20ft at different size targets i wish i could send you videos of how i am doing if i can improve.
I might be a few years behind.
I shoot short bows, and I prefer the thumb technique.
If you have not, since I just stumbled on this video. PLEASE look into the thumb techniques and do video on that. I would love to see your opinion on short bows, and thumb techniques.
Yep. As a beginner coach told me I needed 70" based on height (or finger tip to finger tip measurement). 3 years later with 27" draw it's 68"
I've shot bows from 46" traditional korean to 84" longbow ;) I much more prefer korean but I'm also aware of its limitation - it is definitely not designed for a precise, short distance target shooting. But jokes away, I am going to go back to olympic archery. I used to shoot 70" in the very beggining and later (as my draw length is somewhat 27ish) a 68" bow. This is also the length I am going to continue with.
I use a 74" bow (27" riser with 72" limbs), it's a perfect set up for my 32.5 drawlength !
Nice!
Where did u find 72" limbs??? And please inform me about 27" risers🙏🏻 If we have a 27" riser, we must to add +2 to our limbs length right? Like if we have 27" riser and we buy a new 70" limbs, It works like 72" for our situation? So how can we know exact lbs now?
@@nucleaireoupas4172 You can find draw weight simulator on the uukha's website. They also make 72" limbs and 27" risers.
@@nucleaireoupas4172 A 72 inch bow is a 27 inch riser with long limbs. You will lose about 2 pounds draw weight so to keep the same weight order 2 pounds heavier. The best deal on a 27 inch riser is a Mybo Wave XL. For 74 Hoyt sells extra long limbs but Hoyt prices. Another way is a Gillo 29 inch riser.
Also, shorter bows has stacking problem (draw cycle become harsher in the end) and it's hard to get right anchor point for target shooting for more string angle. Traditional recurve has higher and one point anchor so that's not an issue. Trad recurve bows specially hunting bows have length from 56" to 62".
I shoot a 60" hunting bow with 33" draw length, i use the same anchor as an olympic recurve, and i have two anchor points... You Just need to adapt your form to your shooting style.
68 and 70. Started shooting as an adult. Great work by the way thanks for the info.
Awesome! You're very welcome, thanks for watching! :)
4...as a hunter I started with the 58, it's too short for me and uncomfortable to shoot. The 60in is better but not great. The 62 is so far my favorite. The 64 in a recurve is bordering on unwieldy in a tree stand. I do have a set of ilf longbow limbs ordered to try the 64 again with a different style bow and a 68in (different ilf risers). I am still trying to figure it out
I shot 70 for years. Last year went up to 72 with new Uukha 27 inch riser. It’s great
Awesome, the Uukha limbs have such a different draw force curve don't they!
Online Archery Academy they are fantastic. I can’t imagine shooting anything else!
Is it possible to find a 25 inch riser in posh wood or laminates that has provision threaded inserts for universal limbs and all of the accessories hardware inserts still? Sights weights clickers rests ect. Most ive seen seem bare.
I have shot 3 72inch Longbows a 60inch mongol bow 2 55inch horsebows, a 70inch Marxman takedown, a 66inch yamaha YTD, longr limb making
it 68inch, a 68inch greenhorn, 68inch Stylist, and now a 66nch winners!
There you go, the full list!😊😊😊
I measured my draw length at around 28", will a 64" bow still be okay for me?
I want to get a recurve for simple backyard target shooting, but the bow I have my eye on (Matrix Evo) is only available in 64" around here.
i started with a 62 inch bow. i know have a black hunter 60 inch recurve takedown bow. both with a 30 lb 28 inch draw . my draw length is 29 to 30 inches which make's it about 34 lb draw
62” bow (Sage recurve). I’m new; been shooting for a month. My draw-as measured by a coach-is 28 1/2”. The coach said I should go with a 70” bow. I suspect he observed that I’m not getting full draw with my beginner form?
I've shot 62, 64, and 68 inch (overall length), but on a variety of riser sizes.
Thanks for watching - here are the timestamps for the video, and don't forget to drop your answer to the question of the day below!
00:20 - Question of the day
00:55 - What makes up the bow length
01:30 - The most common bow sizes
03:15 - Differences between a longer and shorter bow
04:15 - The effect on the string angle
07:05 - CHOOSING THE BOW LENGTH FOR DIFFERENT DRAW LENGTHS
how much lbs your limbs?
27" draw, started with 66", went to 68", then back again to 66" for speed. Now using 64" - shooting long distances (140 yards) where arrow speed and lack of wind drift's important.
Please make a video on draw weight
58" Horse bow, 48" Horse bow, 60" Takedown Long Bow and Recurve (hunting style), 68" Recurve (target)
Wow! Quite the mix!
@KING YETI Target recurves are considerably larger than hunting bows. While you can hunt with a large bow, you need to factor in moving through brush. But you need to factor in that learning on a shorter bow will be harder to get a perfect release at first. However I'd say get a cheapish 66"-68" ILF bow to practice and then move down to a 15-17-19" riser for hunting. Just remember that when you change riser length you increase the poundage of the limb (roughly 1lb per inch).
Also update on the bow lengths:
I primarily shoot 60" (wood riser and carbon, and an aluminum left hander) and I'm waiting on a 23" wood riser. And at my draw length of 29.5' ~ 30' even 60 feels fine (though the wood riser stacks more). I've gone full ILF, it's too neat and a recommend it to everyone.
I've never had had issues moving through the bush with a long bow. Actually it can help sometimes to climb and push spider webs out the way. Also my longbow and quiver weigh nothing compared to my compound hunting set up
It's been a while since you posted this Ashe, but hoping to get your view with regard to bow size with respect to following....
I have a 30 1/8" draw length & am shooting 72" bow (27" Hoyt riser, long limbs). However I have string contact on chest at full draw. To negate this, which would be better... a shorter 25" riser keeping the long limbs, or stay with the 27" riser & fit medium limbs? Love your stuff Ashe. Hope you can find time to do a video on chest clearance....
Sounds like an ideal draw length for a 70" bow
56 hunter and 70 target with 28 inch draw length
started with a 54" 30# traditional one piece recurve bow. now im shooting a 70" 38#
i have a draw length of 28" and im 185cm tall
So I'm shooting medium limbs right now but feel that I really need to go to long limbs due to my draw length being a little over 29 inches. Is it safe to say that my current arrows will still be close to tuned with the long limbs of the same poundage?
When started I used 68” club bow; my own bow now is 70” (25” handle, L-limbs) with 30” draw length ...
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Is 2 inch difference have any effect? In your chart I suppose to use medium limbs but I have already bought long limbs. Can I compensate it in tuning like lowering my braised height, lessen the grain in my arrow point etc etc?
What draw length do you shoot?
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy it makes a difference with a 70' your fingers dont get pinched so much and i find it easier reference points where string touch face the 68" does not touch my lip, use your long limbs they are fine and use the manufacturer recommended brace height . some manufactures recommend 70" for 28+ and 68" for 26-28 . there is no hard set draw length like in compound bows, with recurve you can use what feels good for you. also it feel like 68" pound limbs increase 4lbs on your fingers over the set weight of the limbs
what's the recommended length for kids that may still be growing? The chart for draw length stops at 64" AMO but should someone with say a 20-22" draw, go down to a 62" for efficiency or even smaller say 60"? Would a 66" for a 24" draw be detrimental vs using a 64" bow (23" riser with shorts vs 25" riser with shorts)?
I have a draw length of 31 1/4 inches, but it's very hard to find a 27" riser in my area, especially the more affordable ones. So I shoot a 70" bow instead. But lately I noticed that my limb tips are holding on for dear life every time I shoot but I'm not sure if it's "stacked", because it still feels "light" for me to expand from full draw. My question is, is there any way to visually identify if the limbs are close to stacking for a certain draw length?
Bow length 58" ,60", 62", at my draw length of 27.5" Using ILF rise 15" to 19"
68" club bow then 70". After reading all the comments here I know it's time to move on to a 72" bow to accommodate my 32" draw. I can't safely engage my index finger on the string, it presses down on the arrow and bad things happen like pushing the arrow off the rest at the point of release. Just need to work out what 72" bow combination is best.....27" riser or 72" limbs.. Thanks for your great video's.
No worries, thanks for watching!
How can we obtain72" bow length? With 25" riser & 72" limbs and 27"riser & 70"limbs. Am I right at this point? please can you inform me
Seems that AMO bow size charts recommend a 68" bow size for a 28" draw length. However t/d trad bow charts recommend a 60" bow size for a 28" draw? Why the difference? Is it just down to manufacturer recommendations. Just a bit worried about getting a trad t/d and then over drawing or stacking? I shoot a 68" bow size for a 28" draw length but want to try trad. Great channel btw.
Thanks so much Eoghan!
Good question - I'm no trad expert but I think it's just because trad bows are generally shorter as more designed with ease of movement/moving through woodland...etc in mind. So it comes down to what you want the bow for mainly and what type of archery you want to shoot :)
P.S. Any trad shooters in the comments feel free to correct my assumptions as to why the sizing is like that! :P
68" and 62" recurves - the 68" is a Junxing F155 (23" riser) with 40lb limbs and the 62" uses a homemade 17" riser and 36lb Junxing limbs, drawing 42.5lb
My first bow, 17" Riser. it makes a 60" long bow
What is the suitable raiser length for 70 inch limbs.. Please reply
29-and-a-bit inch draw length with 70" bow (25" Riser and Long Limbs)
Nice! My favourite combination too!
I've shot: Compound bare with fingers 43", Korean traditional bow 48", Several Hunting recurves from 58"-62", Barebow 68"-70". My draw length is 29".
Many bows!
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy I'm doing archery for 15 year now. I'm more a traditional archer but gone to barebow the last year.
Longer limbs also means lesser stacking compared to medium limbs right? Assuming the same 'cheap' limbs are used. Should stacking be a factor in changing from med to long limbs, or should we just get better limbs to prevent stacking?
That's correct :) It can be a factor but most limbs these days are pretty good, so it shouldn't be too much of a worry :)
What do you recommend for a player whose measurement is 72" please??
Riser 27" + Climbs 70"
OR
Riser 25" + Limbs 72"
I bought a beautiful looking bow (my first) but I know now I'm under lengthened with! It's 58", my draw length is 28"! Darn it! As I learned and applied proper form I realized it wasn't my form as much as over drawing the bow when in good form. I maybe able to return and get something longer! More like 66" to 68". Salesperson mentioned nothing about bow length!
Question: Do hunting bows operate differently? The Hoyt Satori max size is only 66”, my draw length about 28.5”?
That's right, they'll be much shorter to save space in the field :)
what do suggest sir, I will get a bow I am 20 years old and wat is best for me pl hep me.
I’m 5’8”, My wingspan is 69” but draw length was measured to be 24” AMO, My coach says my shoulders are not aligned and my front arm needs to be straight and not bent when I shoot. So what bow length should I get? Since my current draw length is 24” should I get a 64” bow?
*wink, see what I’m getting at?
Yes bow length should be based on draw length for efficiency but as developing archers progress so does their draw length. It is important to keep this in mind if you are ordering a bow based on draw length but not on height or wingspan. What you really should know is what the archers draw length SHOULD be, not necessarily what it currently is!
31.5" drawlenght here, I mostly shoot a 70" but I am trying a 72" at the moment. I like the string angle but what I have always disliked is the "unwieldyness/clunkyness" of a 72 bow. I wish extra long limbs were more readily available, making a 72" bow with a 25" riser.
That's true! You never know, the 25" riser might feel tiny and weird when you go back to it now 😆
KG archery and Border (I think) will make you some extra long limbs for a 72" bow on a 25" riser.
The thumbnail pic shows that our hero has the perfect profile for a recurve archer 😂
Beginner here and I've only shot the club's 68" so far. However, with a draw lenght of 32-33" and shooting lefty, shopping for a first bow will cost an arm and a leg, which will be terrible for archery...
7:12 draw length with or without point??? Because I shoot on 68" now they broken... my draw length 28.5... can i shoot at 68" or buy a 70"???? I'm 178cm tall
With that draw length either should be ok, but it sounds like a 70" could be a better option for you...
Thanks a lot)))
@@bohdanyemchyk8972 same size as you and draw length i use 70" i find it easier on fingers and the draw weight seem more on the fingers with a 68"
66" with a 26,5" draw lenght and 68" with 27,5" draw lenght (after a year of shooting). I'm 173cm tall
Awesome, sounds spot on!
I want to order me a bow for hunting/practicing my goal is to hunt deer. How can I tell what my draw length should be , I don’t have anything close to go get tested with bows.
shooting 72" with 32,5" draw, maybe a 29" riser with xlong limbs can fit better for me, one day i need to try it
That is definitely a long bow! (Not a longbow...but a long bow...) 😆
Which brands have 29" risers? And xlong limbs for 29" risers?
@@nucleaireoupas4172 Gillo have the 29" riser and border bows have long limbs
I've tried 66 68 inch the 66 did feel smal because the limbs felt like here were stacking at full draw the 68 seems right but I feel like I'm dropping my head to get my nose on the stri ng
I am using a 54 inch bow
can u shoot a 58 hunting bow with a 31 inch draw?
This video just saved me a whole lot of money by preventing me from buying the wrong length bow
Happy to help!
5. 54”, 64”, 68”, 70”, 2m
That's quite a range, good going! Is that a 2m bow?! Maybe a longbow?
I’m 186cm tall and I have used bows from 72-90 inches with a 32 draw length
Is it okay if my bow is 2inch shorter than the bow I need my recommended bow is a 68” but I would like a 66” I’m 1,73cm tall and my width is 1,75cm
It can be ok :) It's more a guideline than an absolute thing. You might find the shorter bow is a little more unforgiving, but this can be offset by other things. For example, if you want the 66" to get a faster arrow and less effect of the wind on your shooting, then having the faster 66" can offset the forgiveness element :)
64, 68 and 70. 70 is my current shooting.
Nice, I'm on the 70" too!
Veri good
Thanks :)
i have a draw length of 32" and shoot a 60" bow. but also it is a one piece hunting recurve
62" - I am 5'11" with 29" Draw length. Moving to 70" recurve bow
Hi im 5'11' too. Can i use a 25"riser and 70" limb? Or i hv no choice but to go for 72"riser. Beginner here
I'm 5'8 and using a 64 inch bow (25' riser - which was originally made for my wife)..is this too short? what should be my ideal size?
It might be, it's more dependant on draw length than your height. What's your draw length?
@@OnlineArcheryAcademy around 28 inches
So how can I reach to 27" riser & 72" bow length setup? With 27" riser that part is so clear 😅 but there is no 72" limbs in market. So I should buy 70" and this measurement is for 25", If I'm using 27" riser, I will be 72" for me, Am I right???
That's exactly right :) it is a bit confusing, but a 70" limb is when measured with a 25" riser. So a 70" limb with a 27" riser does indeed measure 72" :) Hope that helps :)
I started with 70” bow but now I shoot 72” bow. I get 227fps with 36# limbs (45# at fingers) and ACE arrows. I have heard that the geometry of Innomax 27” riser is made so that there shouldn’t be any speed penalty compared to 25” risers. Have you heard anything like that?
Nice :) I haven't heard that, but it sounds like speed isn't too much of a problem for sure if you've got 227fps!!
Online Archery Academy I think my ACEs are a tad too light, since I have had problems with some components of my sight breaking. Perhaps I should switch to X10s.
@@santtilagmailcom I'm shooting Nano Max 27" with #36 limbs but have #52 otf. I'm getting up to 224fps with X10.
Robert Kowalski Thanks. How much point weight do you have. Nano max and Inno max should be almost identical, if I’m not mistaken. There were only some internal changes to shift the center of gravity a tad forward. You must draw an inch or two more than I do to get that much out of 36# limbs. I tested for some time 40# Ex Primes, and those gave 50# for me, which was a bit too much.
@@santtilagmailcom 34" DL, 120grains tungstens. With tiller bolts all way out (#49otf) and 140gr points I had 210fps. 34" arrow lenght as well.
The standard riser size is a 25 inch - is this across the board for everyone men and women. Age and hight doesn't affect it but what about difference is stature
op think i found the answer in your video below
Haha no worries! Yeah 25" is pretty much standard across the board :)
@onlineArcheryAcademy why do I find it hard to string my bow up I have a short draw length I'm 5ft in height am I just too short . 🙃 I need 2 people to help me string it
58", 68", 70", 72"
I now shoot 72" for Field and 68" for target (over 70m)
Nice! Thanks for sharing :) Which is your favourite feeling wise?
My length is 170_172cm... What bow do you prefer to me? What length I mean
I did 62 and 70
I shot 64, 68 and 70
Gillo GT29 29” riser, Uukha Vx+ long limbs make a 74” bow. Draw length 31,5 inches, 37lbs on fingers.
R u happy with it??? I’m planning to pass 29” riser but not sure. I never used one but I’m about 2.05cm. Do you have any suggestion for me. 29” with long limbs is enough for me or maybe 27” riser with xlarge limbs. Bcz both make 74” bow. Why do you prefer that setup.
@@nucleaireoupas4172 &es, very happy with it, though I’m 1,86m tall only. A 74” bow is much more forgiving, for me it feels perfect.
@@hartmuthillmann do you have any idea about how often Gillo releases new series? I’m planning to buy a GT29 but I think they released it 1 year ago.
@@nucleaireoupas4172 If you are on facebook search for the group “gillo gold medal users” you can ask the gillo people like Vittorio Frangilli in person.
54, 60 , 62, 66, 68, and 70"
66" made of 23" riser with medium limbs
I've shot a 60" amo and a 70" amo
What if your bow is 20 cm taller than you because mine is would it make a difference
0 lengths just joind this rabbithole
I have a 60" hunting bow with 33" draw length. And it works pretty well. I have compound speed with a recurve XD
Bow lengths for flat bows, long bows, horse bows and recurve over 56 years. 45", 50", 54" 60" 68" and 70" which is what I shoot now.
I think we have a winner! That's many bows!
Tuning in late. I currently own a 60" recurve (from childhood), a 66" recurve (teenager purchase) and a 68" ILF bow (decades later). My arrows are 25.5", though my actual current draw length is more like 25". I use a magnetic clicker. I plan to get new limbs this summer, going up a bit in weight (28 to 32). I think I should be getting short limbs this time, though the sales rep at LAS talked me out of them last time. Should I stick to my guns this time and get the short limbs so I have a 66" bow?
Bow riser 25", bow length 68", 26 lbs
Nice!
Hi can i know ur height? Im looking to buy a riser dunno 25" or 27" will be better for me
@@jingan97 will am 172cm
62" 66" 68" and 70"
Ive shot 20lb 66” 22lb 68 and 50lb 60”
Started with club bows at 68". My bow is a 70". I have a 31.5" draw, when it was last measured, so debating whether or not to get a 27" riser but they are expensive. I don't know anyone else that has one and there's only one archery store where I live and he doesn't have any in stock and would only order one in special if I bought it. Trying to get one second hand is hard too because they are sort after and get good money on the used market. I've seen a Inno CXT 27" on sale, store demo, that is very tempting but still expensive.
Just saw that the new MYBO Wave X is now being made in a Wave XL variant which is 27". About half the cost of anything from W&W, Hoyt, Gillo, Fivics & Bernadini.
Wow, yeah it sounds like a 27" would be best for you!
my bow is 51", 30lb. I think my draw length is 32".
30ish inch draw here, and I'm shooting a 70 inch bow. Love it. Had to laugh at your very male-centric view on chest clearance issues though. Ain't a bow big enough to help me with that. If my alignment is right, I don't have a hope.
Sorry it came across that way, but actually a slightly shorter bow might help as it will cause a sharper string angle, so might give less contact :) With that draw length definitely not a 66" tough! Maybe draw up a friends 68" and see if it's any better :)
70”
Me too!
You might won’t to mention that this applies to a recurve bow not a compound and there difference because you could have someone very confused if they don’t know
To be fair, he is holding a recurve, but you aren't wrong, lots of new people at the time (me).
60", 66" and 70"
68,it's my first
66" , 68" , 70"
54", 62", 66"
Nice! That's quite a range too!
0 but looking to buy one
I've shot a club bow at 66", and old bow my dad had lying around at 68", and I am currently shooting a 70" bow. I should be shooting 68", cause I'm a 27" draw, but I just really preferred the feel of the 70", as I'm a beginner I can't compensate with technique yet. They're cheap limbs too, so I'm just replacing them with 68" limbs whenever I move up in draw weight.