There were allot of signs though this submarine trip was not safe to go to. One person even pulled out from the sun trip after doing his research on the safety issue.
Don't pretend you're a tech startup and cut corners when you're making a vehicle designed to take humans safely to one of the most inhospitable places on earth.
You are acting like there is no traffic accident on road.... That s just how tech works, you know why people hate A I not bc there are afraid but they are afraid of getting replace
@@pewdavid3338 Boy u r slow... comparing a 'road trip'(car accident)... to a 13000 ft deep dive in the atlantic ocean... do you even understand what level of water pressure there is? let alone how dark and cold and dangerous it is... it was a 5 inch thick carbon + titanium sub that imploded and turned into dust in milliseconds... less humans have been in the deepest ocean on earth than they have been on moon... and you don't sign death wavier before going on a car trip... mf idiot...
@@pewdavid3338 what?! It’s more the fact they didn’t test it correctly and just went ahead with it. Even rushed the design and a complete arrogance to safety checks. Would you get on an aeroplane if I told you that? If you don’t, then fair play. If you do, then you need help.
Yeah angry spirits who were probably pissed that they can’t rip literally! Probably pulled them down on purpose and caused their demise. Now they have to suffer forever just like them. They shouldn’t have ever went down there period! Laugh it up people, but you should never mess with grave sites!
not really. this guy was vaporized into micrometers of pink human particle in a nanosecond from the implosion. like pause the video at 1:44. this guy just ceases to exist in any physical form any more,
@coz7891 The problem wasn't the game controller; they're robust and reliable enough and he had spares. The problem was not understanding in what ways carbon fiber is meant to be used.
He said classing the vessel was unnecessary because most accidents are caused by pilots poor decisions and not poor design. Well. Poor design is eliminated by classing vessels. He’ll be remembered for both - poor design and poor decisions. Well done!
OMG, wasn't that a bit small for five people? Even if it had been unquestionably structurally safe, I would not have gone in that submersible. Five people sitting in that space would have been shoulder to shoulder. My claustrophobia would have flared up the moment they closed the hatch. I feel sorry for the 19 year old who was afraid to go in and went just to please his dad. Very sad.
@@StormgreyTheGamer What's astounding is that anyone would pay that outrageous price for that! I can understand a couple of thousand dollars, perhaps $10,000 at max, but $250,000! That's insane!
What no one is saying is that the father should never have brought his son on that trip just to satisfy his own personal goal, especially given the waivers they had to sign.
@@rayarena879 well even with a full load of paying passengers the dives still operated at a loss. Then you have to take into the fact how many other corners they cut to save money literally everywhere. 10K ticket would have never been a possibility. The reality is the real cost should have been 2M per person. On the other hand life is priceless so make a choice. There is no reason to go down there at all. plenty of 4K videos online. no reason to go down just to record it with your phone through a tiny viewport or on a screen in the sub
Bro Im almost thinking this guy was in trouble. Legal and monetary trouble. Maybe he wanted it to implodeIdk just a really weird, sketchy guy it seems. Ripperino
His approach was not suitable for regulations. He used carbon fibre for the hull and he was precursor for this approach. There are AFAIK no regulations for building carbon fibre subs, but Rush seemed to have some clever ideas behind this choice. Also, he announced Titan as the first submarine capable for taking 5 people inside for such depths. He was definitely an inventor. I think that while we can't be sure what caused the fatal accident then we can't blame design choices of Titan.
@@kilobak2297No it is absolutely for the design of the sub. There’s a reason NO other sub used the mixed materials, it’s leads to implosion. The sub couldnt take the pressure after being damaged on every trip back and forth, until eventually it snapped. Other metals dont do this, and thats proven. We’ve been oceandiving since the 60s, it’s not this is new
All I can think about is poor Suleman Dawood. He never really wanted to be there, and his life was cut so short so cruelly due to someone elses passion being so intense that they cut some corners. May you rest well Suleman. Eternally young.
well thats why we never wanted certain peeps in our country in the first place. They arrange marriages and arrange for their terrified kids to go 2mile underwater in a sardine can designed and built by diversity hires that dont know the difference between polyester resin and proper epoxy resin. cheers
Except suleiman all four ppl were passionate about titanic. Even his father was very fascinated about titanic that he used to watch documentaries about titanic hours long
@@babababi7911I partially blame the media for overly romanticizing what is essentially an underwater graveyard, especially when compared to other shipwrecks.
How ironic that you’re facing the same fate as those on the Titanic. Waiting for someone to come rescue you. EDIT: same fate as the 1500 on the Titanic, now. RIP.
They were crushed on sunday, they were turned into red mist, maybe some bone splinters as soon as the communications stopped, the auto and the txt. They probably had a fraction of a second to think "oh sh..." and game over, instant death.
@@HD28Haileythere was a segment by nbc,abc, etc (one of them can’t remember, it’s on UA-cam) and they had an expert come on and say that this thing had 7 ways to come back up…one of which all passengers could be unconscious and it would STILL automatically float to the the top. They asked him why then could it still be lost…he said it’s highly likely that when they lost communications, it was due to it imploding immediately due to pressure and some malfunction. He also said even if by a miracle that wasn’t it, the 4 days of oxygen was only a theory, never actually proven or tested, so even if they made it to the bottom, they likely ran out of oxygen days ago. He also said if somehow they managed to resurface, it is impossible to open the craft from the inside, only external forces can open it, so again oxygen would be needed. I truly hope for a miracle, I do. But I hope that they imploded and didn’t suffer rather than be tortured and suffocated slowly over the course of days
@@HD28Hailey What Cassandra said and common sense, if the sub had taken them up to the surface, the automatic systems/locators would ping and they would have located them, even without power, combined with 4 search planes using their radar and sonar buoys. As Cassandra, i wish they were alive, but it's impossible, at least they had a quick death.
He was told he could never get a carbon fiber hull certified. He was told that a spherical hull compartment was the industry standard, that a cylindrical hull could not distribute pressure equally. He chose what he chose knowing full well certification for such unreliable specifications for auch a design would never happen, or if it did, it would be after years of safety testing. He KNEW that his hull was prone to delamination. ALL OF THAT IS FINE, IF HE WAS USING IT PERSONALLY, WITH SCIENTISTS THAT UNDERSTOOD THE FRAGILITY OF TITAN. Yet he CHOSE of his own free will to take on PAYING CUSTOMERS in order to continuously fund his dreams & indulgences. That is not pioneering. That is criminal negligence.
what i find crazy about the design is a lack of a seal from the dome to the "hull", if the two rings aren't evenly torqued that's a problem, it looks like two smooth surfaces. i'm guessing that's where the breach started, hopefully they can figure it out. amazing that they were able to make a trip once.
Those people who were onboard the Titanic didn’t have a choice going down with the ship, but these bunch literally voluntarily went down when they had every choice not to. Crazy
@@Tailionis Yes. I actually believe he had a weird death wish, or perhaps a fantasy to become famous in death by dying close to rich and famous people. Every interview I see with him, he radiates a "Now excuse me, I got to call the wife!" type of attitude, if you've watched the show Wilfred.
This video that will be a sad footnote to history. All of his peers in the industry told him this design was unsafe. I think he designed the marine version of the Edsel, but, a much deadlier vehicle. And I just cannot understand why anyone would want to get in any submersible and risk their life to see a shattered teacup on the floor of the ocean (3 miles down). We have plenty of pictures from previous expeditions. It's a crazy, crazy world where some people starve and some people have the money (and weird desire) to blow their money on this sort of insanely risky misadventure.
If people are starving in America thts by choice. Food pantries and assistance everywhere even from setting you up with a job and housing for 6 months or longer. And will always have assistance on utilities and garbage food. Clothing. Or you can go to a shelter they feed you clothe you. You just have to be there by 10 pm. But those “starving” are out just getting fucked up as their main priority.
@@oldironsides4107different ppl and different circumstances I believe is what he’s implying. It’s just sad what loaded ppl do with their money (and I completely say they’ve earned the right to whatever with what’s theirs) it’s all on your perception. I understand what he meant tho and I understand you too
Aside from foolishly not getting his design certified and combed over by multiple entities, u gotta remember that these are humans. All through history people have went far and wide to explore and see things. Some people would be highly fulfilled just to go so far down. Safety just has to be a priority and it doesn't look like it was here. Even worse, the writing was on the wall from shoddy design and a lack of responsibility for priorities
Well if that was so he would have charged more than 250k for the passangers. He just wanted to be the first and ignored warnings. Not for money for explorations trying to make it more avaible to public. If he wanted money would've charged a million to make it safer and get more profit
@@stephenrobinson8244 I used to work with these kind of “dreamer managers”, they sell the product even before the product is done… And they are so excited about it… Sometimes they need the money to continue financing the operations evoiding many important steps. And bum!! 💥
Disrespectful, and if the trip went well like it did countless of other times, you wouldn’t have said sh*t. Ignorance is crazy, jealous of the funds they had?
@@MyStupidUA-camHandle Didn't say I was jealous of their money. The CEO was clearly arrogant, ignoring all safety precautions and even firing those who warned him about how unsafe the subs OceanGate built were. Because of him neglecting basic safety guidelines, he endangered everyone in that sub including himself, resulting in what unfortunately happened.
@@MyStupidUA-camHandle”countless times”! Why are you protecting an obvious, dangerous ego maniac liar that is responsible for 4deaths? Titan made 3 trips before catastrophic failure, 3 not countless. That is NOT a good record by any ones standard, for any vehicle, and goes to prove the warnings were all true. Compare that to the Russian Mir submersible, 17 dives to titanic, a couple of which had issues but nothing severe enough to kill anyone.
@@koko-hh2bq this was an accident the same submarine went down many times. His unfortunate death doesn’t take away all the success he’s had and work towards this newer area, he didn’t lead anyone to death.
It turns out that this guy didn't take safety of people on board seriously because it didnt have thing which would send distressed call signal so they can be located easily.
The guy was taking chances when he fired the employee that voiced concerns over its safety. Wish the other 4 people who signed waivers knew about this and made informed decision. Most likely they did not. No matter how much you hate Government interference but it’s there for Public safety. Not just his own employees but other companies in the same business told him as well that Titan needed ABS certification. He ignored everyone. Can you imagine flying without FAA, NTSB, TSA etc oversight? Human greed knows no bounds.
As someone who tends to lean more libertarian…you’re totally right. Not all government regulation is bad and there is just certain things that private industries miss on-like safety regulation.
@@JoeKyser they also said however that it’s not to say that the equipment is unsafe and that it was state of the art stuff but it was just new technology…the liability form is just for legality purposes
Under sustained load in the presence of seawater, carbon fiber tensile strength decreases 7 to 12%. Every time he took the sub down, he was weakening the hull, until he broke the camel's back. The last message he sent was that he was unloading ballast weights, so he must have sprung a leak in a stress crack and was taking on water. It probably wasn't long until the tiny crack opened up into a big crack and unfortunately it was game over. The hull should have been made from titanium, but he probably didn't want to spend that much money and was trying to get out the cheap way, with carbon fiber. He even said that he was breaking all the rules by building this first ever design. Why would anyone want to break the rules when it comes to something so dangerous?
He was trying to be innovative and do things differently than others / the tried and true methods. Titanic trips were meant to be a process to give his design credibility. He planned to approach big oil and gas after things dwindled with the titanic trips…that was his main goal. Because they spend $$$ on robotics….anyway read all that today…sad really.
@@Seashellsbytheseashore21 You're right, he even referred to himself as an innovator. I think his ego got in the way of logic. When people told him that carbon fiber was not safe to use, he was out to prove them wrong. He was one of those know it all people that his ego wouldn't let him admit he was wrong. When an employee said the vessel was not safe and stress cracks were appearing, he fired the guy. Like you said, he wanted to have a bigger vessel to be able to take more passengers. When you're charging 250k, it makes sense to maximize profits on each trip. This whole carbon fiber thing was about saving money. A sub that size could have been made from titanium, but he probably couldn't afford it. From what I've heard, the end pieces were titanium, and I'd be curious to know how he married the titanium end pieces with carbon fiber hull. As you know, you can't weld carbon fiber. If the truth was known, the breach might have occurred at those joints where the end pieces meet the hull.
Doubt they were taking on water as even a hairline crack would have been enough to implode the whole thing in less than the blink of an eye, even at the shallower depth they were at whilst still descending. More likely the hull's stress sensors were giving him warnings so he decided to drop ballast and it was too late. Or more likely still he dropped _some_ ballast to descend more slowly as the reports are they were descending too quickly. Either way it's extremely likely they would all have known something was at least partially wrong before the implosion. I'm sure the 19 year old was not taking that well certainly on the inside. Probably kept a brave face for his dad.
Looking how micro technology evolved laws of physics dont always win. They just limit advancement. We can now get transistors on atom scale which was not possible many years ago. Thanks to all research innovators and visionares we have todays phones which are multitools
He wasn’t an engineer. A REAL engineer doesn’t allow their hearts to lead them. They don’t care about that. They care about safety, efficiency and reliability. This guy wanted fame, he wanted to be a mad scientist, he wanted to do things cheep and he wanted attention and unfortunately fools with too much money and say, allowed him to do this and now people are dead. If you are in a field of work that deals with the handling of peoples lives. Whether it’s a sub, an aircraft, a hospital environment, operating a roller coaster etc. YOU have a duty to protect individuals who use those services. You don’t allow your heart to rule. People die when feelings become our focus. Save your feelings for your pillow and bring your brain to work instead. Simple as. Maybe your mom cares how you feel, maybe your partner cares what your dreams are, maybe your dad, brother, sister, dog, whatever! But reality doesn’t.
😂 Yeah, James Camerons vessel was bonded with proper West Systems 105 epoxy not junk Chinese poly resin and they put the hatches on his with Norbar torque wrenches not a 18v Aldi rattle gun hahahaha
They are probably in one of two scenarios right now. 1. They were crushed in an implosion. 2. They are sitting in deep darkness with little food or water, oxygen running out, no hope of rescue from anyone else. In this case, it would be a bit like Sartre’s No Exit. It’s hard to imagine the emotions or conversations they would be having as they wait to die. If they can return to the surface on their own and signal their ship, that’s their only chance.
not just from titanic. hate to spill the big secret but rich or poor, we're all destined to die. it's a grand equalizer. and today i'm one day closer to my end than i was yesterday.
I think this guy was in love with the Titanic for whatever reason and he was going to use whatever resources he had to have a relationship with that wreck. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that dying the way he did, near the wreck, was a secret desire of his. It would certainly explain his lack of concern over a major safety issue like the area of the port hole being a weak point in the vessel.
I agree completely. He seems like a pretty decent and intelligent guy. I think it was his dream to go down and he let his pride, arrogance, and drive get in the way and cost the lives of many.
What he's saying about it deteriorating and collapsing...and most people know better than to go in dodgy old half collapsed abandoned buildings and factories...now imagine doing that in an environment which is trying to kill you anyway, in a home made mini sub steered with a Logitech knockoff ps controller...
Stockton Rush is actually lucky he went down with the Titan. If he'd been topside when the accident occurred, he likely would have gone down for criminal negligence. This despite whatever waivers were signed, since they were clearly signed by people who didn't know about all the warnings Rush had ignored regarding the faulty design of his submersible.
This is the absolute worst fate I could ever imagine , you’re stuck in a extremely tight space , it’s cold , dark and a remote place away from humanity just waiting to die if you haven’t already. The worst thing about it is , you don’t know if any help is ever coming or if you’re going to die and never be seen again
I went to the liquor store tonight and had an extensive conversation with a lovely man who works there about all of this, and we had the exact same sentiment.. when will the world just finally let these souls rest in peace?
Most people don't realize that the Titanic is a mass grave for over a thousand people, with 5 more being added to it over a century after it first dropped to the seafloor.
I didn’t know it was that small of a tube. 5 people, are in there just sitting? You can’t even stand? Or sit straight. Ughh I can’t imagine. How horrible.
hopefully, it was fast... one of the possibilities is a structural failure in the carbon fibre construction, if it does happened like that, their death would've been fast and painless, they wouldn't even be able to register what happened
I'm pretty sure I would've died of poor circulation after sitting with my legs crossed for multiple hours straight. They're shoulder to shoulder all with their legs crossed. That in itself is terrible!
Some strange facts: 1. CEO wife, Wendy Rush, is great- great granddaughter of Isador Strauss. 2. 14 yrs before Titanic, The Wreck of the "Titan" was published about the wreck of an ocean liner. 3. Titan is name of submersible. Looks like the Titanic curse claimed the life of another billionaire.
@@slayerdeth0705 fourteen years before the titanic, there was a book published about the wreck of the “titan” which is literally the name of the oceangate sub
It is crucial to ensure accuracy when presenting factual information. In 1898, Morgan Robertson wrote a novella called The Futility, which was later revised and published as The Wreck of the Titan in 1912 after the Titanic sank. It's worth noting that the ship in the book was already named "Titan" before the revision. There are some similarities between the Titanic and the ship in the book, which you can research. The submersible was probably named "Titan" due to inspiration from the book or the Titanic itself, which is unsurprising.
Stockton rush was a member of, heavans gate'' the cult that thought hale bopp was the harbinger of the end of the world. 'ocean gate'' heavens gate... it was a suicide with 4 sacrafices. They all traveld to the next level.
This morbid fascination (or even obsession) with disasters always baffled me. The Titanic is a water tomb and a historic disaster site. It's not a cool tourist attraction. Leave it alone already!
@@Nate-ur6rqand the son of one of the richest men in Pakistan . I have no doubt he would have turned out to be a giant turd like his father . Nothing was lost on the Titan
When this first happened I pictured Titan, hopelessly snagged on Titanic, and future submersibles slowly approaching Titan and peering in with their spotlights. Just another part of the sightseeing. They’ll have to be satisfied with the mini debris field now.
@@Domino13334 Great. You have the beautiful Titanic then you have this guy's shitty, exploded backyard welding project along with a cheap ass video game controller beside it.
That's just craziness! Why anyone would climb inside of a sealed cylinder and drop 12,000 feet below the surface, with limited air supply, boggles the mind. There are too many variables, all of which point to, "don't do it"... but they did anyway!
Going down to the titanic in a submersible is, believe it or not, relatively safe. IF you go down in a properly certified vehicle, not some piece of crap homemade submarine built out of arrogance. The guy who ran Oceangate was told multiple times by so many people that his submarine was unsafe, HE BRAGGED ABOUT BREAKING SAFETY REGULATIONS because the submarine worked the first couple times because it turns out, safety regulations exist for a reason
RUSH wanted to be a pilot, but did not have good vision, so he went to the sea to become famous. HE was not even a specialist of the sea, nor a qualified engineer. HE was a WANNABE engineer of the sea in search of fame at the expense of others.
@@teflontelefonGoogle images in the comfort of one's own home is better arguably. The wreck should be left alone, it's a mass grave site of the passengers that perished.
I think you would say listen captain if you are actually using a 🎮 to steer my life into the unknown I am quietly gonna get xbox to take you to the dry cleaners for using a controller In a real adventure. 250k is a lifetime Xbox membership to receive anything you need
Sad how he wanted to leave a legacy of innovation but sadly due to ignorance and cutting corners he died looking a fool to most people. Although he cut corners and ignored safety I still respect him for trying to create a new era of deep sea exploration. But now people interested in doing what he wanted to do will take what happened to him and his crew to better the industry. Rip to Stockton and the rest of his crew.
How did James Cameron go to the titanic like 30 times without major issues? Is it cause he invested millions and millions of dollars to buy the best equipment and hire the best people?
Cameron went way way deeper than titanic. Marianas trench. With early 2000s Lithium batteries and a foam/glass shell. Looking back there is no footage of camera decenting. Just national geographic special. He likely did a moon landing in a studio. The white male movie maker goes to the deepest part of the earth alone with early 2000s tech. Not buying it.
I don't feel too sorry for the OceanGate CEO who fired the guy who told him the thing was unsafe at this depth. The others should have done more vetting of the company.
One crazy part about all of this is that the passengers probably had to sign a waiver acknowledging the dangers that clears the company of all charges.
@@bigduphusaj162t depends. Let me ask you a question. Let's say you invented an elevator and told people to sign a waiver that it is experimental. But if an engineer came by the day before and noted that there's a big crack in the cable and it isn't safe and you still give a ride to the public, does your waiver still hold? Id say, and I know lawyers will agree, waiver or no waiver, that is negligence and manslaughter beyond the scope of the contract which only serves to hold the company harmless in case of an unforeseeable accident during an experimental phase of a project. That specific concern and the waiving of rights to blame is based only on the scope and impression given to the signer. Now if the contract says I waive all rights to sue under any and all conditions including malice or manslaughter, you are running into some ethical issues in agreement drafting. Thus, a full waiver always has exceptions in consideration of how blatantly awful people can be.
Remember when he said he designed this submersible using his aerospace background? Well, 3 people died inside Apollo 1 because they were bolted in and couldn't escape once it caught fire. Just saying.
@@rachell8661es!!! Yes!!! Please respect it and stop the stupid tourism. What's worse is that the rich people took precedence so most of the victims were poor people...who were now being visited by rich people...
He took money from people and gambled their lives, he got exactly what was coming to him. I feel bad that the innocent others had to go with him, especially a 19 year old.
The whole risk was becaused he was so obsessed by going to the titanic that he lost the 99% safety aspect of the submersible. People who build these kind of vehicles build them to be save as possible and not for diving to a specific object underwater.
That’s probably exactly what happened too. Breech in the vessel and the pressure crushed it. Losing ALL communications including the ping it sends out every 15 minutes, they say that’s the most likely scenario
The irony here was his name , Rush , well cutting corners and rushing into things is what he did , i think he went on every expedition because he knew one day it would fail and he couldn't imagine haveing to deal with the public, almost cowardly if you think about it ,,, rather die a fool then live as a bad example....
I’d say what’s even more ironic is how similar the captain of the sub and the captain of the Titanic were. The captain of the Titanic was repeatedly warned about ice in the area but kept going at full speed and what happened, a catastrophic event. The captain of the sub (Stockton Rush) was repeatedly warned about the materials used to make the sub (and got offended when this was flagged to him and even fired an employee for raising concerns) and that if he goes through with this a catastrophic event could happen and what happened, a catastrophic event
If I had that money, I would buy 10, 8k resolution monitors and surround myself with ulta HD video of a live feed of Titanic in a specially built, dark room. I would never, ever, ever risk going down there. Your resolution could arguably be better on the HD monitors. Same with audio. They all played a stupid game and they just won a very stupid prize. Maybe it was a status thing- to brag about what they did and how epic it was. Dumb. R.I.P.
Yeah at first I thought there was windows that they could look out of with high powered lights to illuminate the wreckage…I didn’t realise they were just looking at screens displaying an image. Crazy.
@@thejudderman8265 Isn't there a small window up front? Still, give me my coffee and some 8k monitors. Who wants to see a rusty old shipwreck anyway- rather do a wreck dive. Sadly, these people had more money and ego than brains. they wanted bragging rights to their rich friends. Let's just say, it did not work out. Heck, pay someone to do some diligence on that shoddy vessel. Hard Pass.
I wonder what people would have thought back when we couldn’t even find the titanic. If they knew in the future billionaires would be going to visit it for funsies
I don’t fully understand the hate and shade thrown at the individuals who went on this expedition. It must come from negative self reflections because they were successful enough to make money. And then with that type of money they could have played life safe and did whatever. But they were living life by being curious. I could argue it’s a better use of their time and money than a ton of things the average person would do IF they fell into money or made it themselves. It’s sad they all died and it’s crazy they huddled up in that submarine. But I can’t knock the curiosity and balls.
Business can be very relentless if the owner intends to risk their own life and be responsible for the lives of their clients to make big money by giving them such a unique/inquisitive experience and not have any apprehension of the what if's
Ha, wait till you see DSV Alvin & the Mir submersibles. 3 people in a steel pressure sphere. But they are certified to go to that depth & beyond. James Cameron's "Deepsea Challenger" can go right to the deepest point on Earth, and it only had room for 1 man... in a fetal position.
The man who didn't believe his tin can coffin needed any failsafes and made money from expeditions to a ship which was boasted the be "unsinkable". Hubris.
@@oldironsides4107 normally, planes go under rigorous tests to see how pressurisation cycles impact the structural integrity of the craft. There was no emergency beacon on this sub should communications fail. I have to say, I'm no engineer but a vessel that communicates to the mother ship by text through a network that notoriously doesn't work well on land, is controlled by a clunky game controller from 2005, and uses old lead pipes for ballast, screams sloppy and an accident waiting to happen.
James Cameron explained that the biggest issue was the use of carbon fibers for the hull. Apparently it’s widely known among engineers that you can’t use that material for extreme external pressure and it only works against internal pressure. Rush should have listened to any number of the people who told him it wasn’t possible to use that material for a reason.
The titanium cap of the vessel was glued on with adhesive and it wasn't even done in a sterile environment; even if the alignment was within microns of tolerance, who knew what sort of dust particles got between the adhesive and the cap to create imperfections in the seal? Not only that, but the glass of the viewing window was apparently only rated to a fraction of the theoretical safe depth of the vessel so that could've been another weakpoint.
aged like the cheap chinese polyester resin they used to bond the titanium end caps😂 Should have spent the extra and got proper West System 105 epoxy resin
It’s crazy to actually pay attention to this design now and compare it to other submersibles and you’re just mind blown at how different this one looked. He tried to cut the gadgets and the panels and double the size of a one or at most two person submersible and make it into a soda can with a game controller and a laptop. I mean how….
He was showing off how low tech the thing was. Even threw the playstation controller on the floor and laughed in front of the camera crew - probably getting his kick out of the reactions. The guy is pure ego with very little knowledge of what it actually takes to build something that is entrusted with the lives of people. His arrogance and lack of knowledge combined cost the lives of 4 others.
You nailed it. His arrogance is off the charts. His cavalier way of throwing around the controller. It's obvious in his mannerisms that he thinks that he's above safety, he thinks nothing of risking the lives of others to go down to the bottom of the ocean floor. The height of hubris with Stockton Rush. Pride goes before destruction.
theres a dramatic irony that both stockton rush and edward smith both went down with their ships for the same reason, they just wouldn't listen to advice and do the safe thing.
@@harrypeterson9287 Steel is heavy, the weight of it will be an issue for the Sub, Submersibles have to be secure and have the ability to move around, with steel it would struggle to move around because the weight will cause it to sink and it will struggle to come back up. Titanium is just as strong but lighter, most submersibles are made of titanium because like steel, it is strong enough to withstand water pressure but it’s also light enough to where the Sub can travel and go up and down without issues.
The saddest part about this whole tragedy is that Mr. Rush ultimately had a very cheap way out of this whole mess. Nobody on board had any clue at all of the implosion, it happened so fast that they didn't feel or see a thing, its like somebody flicked a switch and boom, you are not there anymore. Its a solace for the families of the other 4 passengers but I cant help but think it would have been fairer if good old Stockton had been aware before his demise of his complete failure as an engineer, innovator and anything remotely close to a decent human bieng.
I imagine they would’ve heard the carbon fiber material cracking or tearing apart from it’s binding material, even for a few seconds I believe they heard the hull breaking before the implosion. Their mother ship also stated they dropped their weights for an emergency ascent. But we’ll most likely never know
@@adb8003"they" didn't try anything. 4 of them were simply rich passengers. Stockton was the only one aware of anything happening, and if he was a decent captain he didn't tell them of their impending doom. To tell the passengers would have induced panic for no reason. They couldn't have helped. He'd likely have just told them they were ascending.
It's a weird feeling watching the CEO answer questions about the trip knowing his whole body imploded and is now just a fine paste smeared on the walls.
The person being interviewed, Stockton Rush, is currently MISSING! He was last seen with 4 others in his tiny submersible attempting to dive down to the Titanic on Sunday June 18th 2023. Only 96 hours of oxygen is onboard. Scariest part: There is no hatch door to exit from. Even if the submersible managed to float to the surface 17 bolts are screwed in from the outside, holding the 5 men in tightly.
You have a problem with free will? Everyone agreed and wanted to take the trip. It’s like going for a hike or a cave or a cross country drive. Sky diving skiing. There’s always dangers in everything. You act like these adults were so naive and uneducated.
@@oldironsides4107they all knew the risks and still step foot on that submarine that is notoriously known for not having any safety inspections. lol. id argue they’re more than just naive and uneducated.
I feel bad for the 19 year old kid. Probably felt safe with dad and I’m sure they thought that paying 250k for a ticket it would be state of the art and mostly safe. Poor kid.
@@Pugetwitch u guys are so funny. He was genuinely passionate and excited about it. Yet you guys try to paint him as a literal star wars villain or someshit lmao
The lesson from the titanic was the arrogance to believe it was “unsinkable”. Clearly not everyone got that lesson.
It's been 111 years since it sank, good chance some idiot will be repeating these mistakes.
There were allot of signs though this submarine trip was not safe to go to. One person even pulled out from the sun trip after doing his research on the safety issue.
@@frankdixon3560 Actually, an expert working for them did predict this. He was fired.
@@frankdixon3560This tragedy could've been avoided with proper certification and redundancy.
they actually called this sub invulnerable. learned nothing.
Don't pretend you're a tech startup and cut corners when you're making a vehicle designed to take humans safely to one of the most inhospitable places on earth.
At a pretty penny.
One of the most inhospitable? It’s completely inhospitable…unless you’re a sea creature.
You are acting like there is no traffic accident on road.... That s just how tech works, you know why people hate A I not bc there are afraid but they are afraid of getting replace
@@pewdavid3338 Boy u r slow... comparing a 'road trip'(car accident)... to a 13000 ft deep dive in the atlantic ocean... do you even understand what level of water pressure there is? let alone how dark and cold and dangerous it is... it was a 5 inch thick carbon + titanium sub that imploded and turned into dust in milliseconds... less humans have been in the deepest ocean on earth than they have been on moon... and you don't sign death wavier before going on a car trip... mf idiot...
@@pewdavid3338 what?! It’s more the fact they didn’t test it correctly and just went ahead with it. Even rushed the design and a complete arrogance to safety checks.
Would you get on an aeroplane if I told you that? If you don’t, then fair play. If you do, then you need help.
OceanGate's last dive included a surprise meet and greet with the original Titanic crew.
Lolll
😂
Yeah angry spirits who were probably pissed that they can’t rip literally! Probably pulled them down on purpose and caused their demise. Now they have to suffer forever just like them. They shouldn’t have ever went down there period! Laugh it up people, but you should never mess with grave sites!
@@dmmice2344 yup, never visit ww1, or ww2 grave sites cuz the "spirits" will find it disrespectful
Ya can’t buy that for a dollar 😂😭
Those who cannot learn from history, will be doomed to repeat it.
Hi I'm raising funds to crowdfund a sub to explore the wreckage of the Titan. Wanna come? Only $250000.
The Democratic Party
Yes, humanity should never have left its cave 🙄
@@fj06carnoneor maybe they could’ve used conventional materials in the design of the sub. What you said is irrelevant.
How that republican nut taste 😂
Well, he got the full titanic experience. I’ll give him that.
Too soon💀
😂
I lol'ed
not really. this guy was vaporized into micrometers of pink human particle in a nanosecond from the implosion. like pause the video at 1:44. this guy just ceases to exist in any physical form any more,
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Stockton left behind a legacy he didn’t expect: Being an idiot and an example of why proper engineering is required when designing a submarine
Talk about "being an idiot" - Did you see the video where he's proud of using a cheap video game controller to guide it?
He said he wanted to be remembered as an innovator. Considering the entire situation; good luck with that.
@@coz7891 there’s an interview of him admitting about not caring about safety and breaking rules
@coz7891 The problem wasn't the game controller; they're robust and reliable enough and he had spares. The problem was not understanding in what ways carbon fiber is meant to be used.
@@h8GWoh he knew how to used it, he just chose to break engineering rules.
He said classing the vessel was unnecessary because most accidents are caused by pilots poor decisions and not poor design. Well. Poor design is eliminated by classing vessels. He’ll be remembered for both - poor design and poor decisions. Well done!
Looks like he fell for his own version if the survivorship bias fallacy
OMG, wasn't that a bit small for five people? Even if it had been unquestionably structurally safe, I would not have gone in that submersible. Five people sitting in that space would have been shoulder to shoulder. My claustrophobia would have flared up the moment they closed the hatch. I feel sorry for the 19 year old who was afraid to go in and went just to please his dad. Very sad.
Other than milking 5 people each 250k, I don't get why they went with 5 people on these expeditons. Would go for 3 at max.
@@StormgreyTheGamer What's astounding is that anyone would pay that outrageous price for that! I can understand a couple of thousand dollars, perhaps $10,000 at max, but $250,000! That's insane!
What no one is saying is that the father should never have brought his son on that trip just to satisfy his own personal goal, especially given the waivers they had to sign.
@@rayarena879 well even with a full load of paying passengers the dives still operated at a loss. Then you have to take into the fact how many other corners they cut to save money literally everywhere. 10K ticket would have never been a possibility. The reality is the real cost should have been 2M per person. On the other hand life is priceless so make a choice. There is no reason to go down there at all. plenty of 4K videos online. no reason to go down just to record it with your phone through a tiny viewport or on a screen in the sub
@@umbreonpokemon8190 Do you have access to his finances? How do you know that the sub ride was running at a lost?
You couldn't pay me to go down there, i would never want to see such a graveyard
Wouldn’t step foot in that submarine if I was paid all the money in the world.
@@thejudderman8265same :/
Surface of the ocean is scary enough
Yea give me a first class ticket 🎫... Just kidding I would not set foot there
@@thejudderman8265 Money can be regained, your life is one time.
He really loathed regulations - the same regulations and maritime building codes that would have kept him and his crew safe. A harsh lesson 😕
Regulations are written in blood. This is why.
There was no crew. It was a one man operation within the sub.
Bro Im almost thinking this guy was in trouble. Legal and monetary trouble. Maybe he wanted it to implodeIdk just a really weird, sketchy guy it seems. Ripperino
His approach was not suitable for regulations. He used carbon fibre for the hull and he was precursor for this approach. There are AFAIK no regulations for building carbon fibre subs, but Rush seemed to have some clever ideas behind this choice. Also, he announced Titan as the first submarine capable for taking 5 people inside for such depths. He was definitely an inventor. I think that while we can't be sure what caused the fatal accident then we can't blame design choices of Titan.
@@kilobak2297No it is absolutely for the design of the sub. There’s a reason NO other sub used the mixed materials, it’s leads to implosion. The sub couldnt take the pressure after being damaged on every trip back and forth, until eventually it snapped. Other metals dont do this, and thats proven. We’ve been oceandiving since the 60s, it’s not this is new
A crushing defeat for Mr. Rush.
yikes
Savage
@@RB01.10 Someone had to say it. Buddy sunk so low to allow this to happen.
All I can think about is poor Suleman Dawood. He never really wanted to be there, and his life was cut so short so cruelly due to someone elses passion being so intense that they cut some corners. May you rest well Suleman. Eternally young.
well thats why we never wanted certain peeps in our country in the first place. They arrange marriages and arrange for their terrified kids to go 2mile underwater in a sardine can designed and built by diversity hires that dont know the difference between polyester resin and proper epoxy resin. cheers
Except suleiman all four ppl were passionate about titanic. Even his father was very fascinated about titanic that he used to watch documentaries about titanic hours long
@@babababi7911I partially blame the media for overly romanticizing what is essentially an underwater graveyard, especially when compared to other shipwrecks.
@@beanpasteposts yeah ofcourse media play a big role to romanticise titanic just a ship sinking like other ships
I think you meant "Eternally chum"
This is gonna be a good Internet Historian video in a few years.
It is already.
FR 😂
Facts
😂
1000%
How ironic that you’re facing the same fate as those on the Titanic. Waiting for someone to come rescue you.
EDIT: same fate as the 1500 on the Titanic, now. RIP.
They were crushed on sunday, they were turned into red mist, maybe some bone splinters as soon as the communications stopped, the auto and the txt.
They probably had a fraction of a second to think "oh sh..." and game over, instant death.
@@NatoHorosource?
@@HD28Haileythere was a segment by nbc,abc, etc (one of them can’t remember, it’s on UA-cam) and they had an expert come on and say that this thing had 7 ways to come back up…one of which all passengers could be unconscious and it would STILL automatically float to the the top. They asked him why then could it still be lost…he said it’s highly likely that when they lost communications, it was due to it imploding immediately due to pressure and some malfunction.
He also said even if by a miracle that wasn’t it, the 4 days of oxygen was only a theory, never actually proven or tested, so even if they made it to the bottom, they likely ran out of oxygen days ago. He also said if somehow they managed to resurface, it is impossible to open the craft from the inside, only external forces can open it, so again oxygen would be needed.
I truly hope for a miracle, I do. But I hope that they imploded and didn’t suffer rather than be tortured and suffocated slowly over the course of days
@@HD28Hailey What Cassandra said and common sense, if the sub had taken them up to the surface, the automatic systems/locators would ping and they would have located them, even without power, combined with 4 search planes using their radar and sonar buoys.
As Cassandra, i wish they were alive, but it's impossible, at least they had a quick death.
We are ALL the same,, we will ALL meet the same fate one day! 🙏🏽
He was told he could never get a carbon fiber hull certified. He was told that a spherical hull compartment was the industry standard, that a cylindrical hull could not distribute pressure equally. He chose what he chose knowing full well certification for such unreliable specifications for auch a design would never happen, or if it did, it would be after years of safety testing. He KNEW that his hull was prone to delamination. ALL OF THAT IS FINE, IF HE WAS USING IT PERSONALLY, WITH SCIENTISTS THAT UNDERSTOOD THE FRAGILITY OF TITAN. Yet he CHOSE of his own free will to take on PAYING CUSTOMERS in order to continuously fund his dreams & indulgences. That is not pioneering. That is criminal negligence.
Dude thought he knew everything
Perfectly said.
Shut. up.
what i find crazy about the design is a lack of a seal from the dome to the "hull", if the two rings aren't evenly torqued that's a problem, it looks like two smooth surfaces. i'm guessing that's where the breach started, hopefully they can figure it out. amazing that they were able to make a trip once.
Perfectly said .
This aged well
Those people who were onboard the Titanic didn’t have a choice going down with the ship, but these bunch literally voluntarily went down when they had every choice not to. Crazy
And paid $250k too lol
@@real360froscopeyou mean paid with there liv☠️
This is so horrible 😞
@@ventura15 for them it is smh see better pics of titanic on the t.v if i want to go in the water i will get in the bath
Agreed
He lived by his arrogance , he died by his arrogance
Yep! That is the truth. He was swollen with pride and destruction came to him.
@@mariapopovici4467and this is why Pride is the deadliest sin.
@@elizabethowen8559 r u with god side
He killed others by his arrogance.
This was all staged to distract from hunter Bidens bribery schemes and giving classified documents with foreign regimes. Sleight of the hand
This is an example of an adventure best experienced through a television screen.
I would go in a nautilus submarine but the titan submersible literally had components held together by duct tape
Or an Apple Vision Pro.
That's what VR is for.
I believe it's an example of what happens when people mistake adventures for games. The difference is that in an adventure, you can die.
3:23 he had no idea this would end him
He knew
@@Tailionis Yes. I actually believe he had a weird death wish, or perhaps a fantasy to become famous in death by dying close to rich and famous people. Every interview I see with him, he radiates a "Now excuse me, I got to call the wife!" type of attitude, if you've watched the show Wilfred.
Can we all agree to just send robots from now on.
Or build a sub up to code. James Cameron went almost 3 times the depth of the Titanic but it was a sub that was built for it.
They are looking at it through a monitor anyway. I don't understand why anybody has to be in the sub.
How about just leave the Titanic alone... let it rest along with the souls that have been lost there now including these guys.
Robot lives matter
@@rikkisan1those ghost kill those guys
This video that will be a sad footnote to history. All of his peers in the industry told him this design was unsafe. I think he designed the marine version of the Edsel, but, a much deadlier vehicle. And I just cannot understand why anyone would want to get in any submersible and risk their life to see a shattered teacup on the floor of the ocean (3 miles down). We have plenty of pictures from previous expeditions. It's a crazy, crazy world where some people starve and some people have the money (and weird desire) to blow their money on this sort of insanely risky misadventure.
If people are starving in America thts by choice. Food pantries and assistance everywhere even from setting you up with a job and housing for 6 months or longer. And will always have assistance on utilities and garbage food. Clothing.
Or you can go to a shelter they feed you clothe you. You just have to be there by 10 pm. But those “starving” are out just getting fucked up as their main priority.
@@oldironsides4107different ppl and different circumstances I believe is what he’s implying. It’s just sad what loaded ppl do with their money (and I completely say they’ve earned the right to whatever with what’s theirs) it’s all on your perception. I understand what he meant tho and I understand you too
Aside from foolishly not getting his design certified and combed over by multiple entities, u gotta remember that these are humans. All through history people have went far and wide to explore and see things. Some people would be highly fulfilled just to go so far down. Safety just has to be a priority and it doesn't look like it was here. Even worse, the writing was on the wall from shoddy design and a lack of responsibility for priorities
@@oldironsides4107pro life Christian arguing why we shouldn't feed children lol
@@chrishansen9582 Nice reading comprehension.
He was more focused on the money than get the safety certification.
Bingo
Well if that was so he would have charged more than 250k for the passangers.
He just wanted to be the first and ignored warnings. Not for money for explorations trying to make it more avaible to public.
If he wanted money would've charged a million to make it safer and get more profit
@@stephenrobinson8244 I used to work with these kind of “dreamer managers”, they sell the product even before the product is done… And they are so excited about it… Sometimes they need the money to continue financing the operations evoiding many important steps. And bum!! 💥
How long did you know him ?
Negligence is a sin, and this is a perfect example of that being proven
Disrespectful, and if the trip went well like it did countless of other times, you wouldn’t have said sh*t. Ignorance is crazy, jealous of the funds they had?
@@MyStupidUA-camHandle Didn't say I was jealous of their money. The CEO was clearly arrogant, ignoring all safety precautions and even firing those who warned him about how unsafe the subs OceanGate built were. Because of him neglecting basic safety guidelines, he endangered everyone in that sub including himself, resulting in what unfortunately happened.
@@MyStupidUA-camHandle”countless times”! Why are you protecting an obvious, dangerous ego maniac liar that is responsible for 4deaths? Titan made 3 trips before catastrophic failure, 3 not countless. That is NOT a good record by any ones standard, for any vehicle, and goes to prove the warnings were all true. Compare that to the Russian Mir submersible, 17 dives to titanic, a couple of which had issues but nothing severe enough to kill anyone.
@@MyStupidUA-camHandleno one is jealous of being dead unless theyre suicidal 😂
@@koko-hh2bq this was an accident the same submarine went down many times. His unfortunate death doesn’t take away all the success he’s had and work towards this newer area, he didn’t lead anyone to death.
I can barely stand being stuck in traffic. I wouldn’t last 10 minutes in that tube
Fr. It’s literally so small. If they’re still alive, I can’t imagine the chaos and panic going on in there. Cramped with all those people.
You couldn’t pay me $250k to go down in that thing with 5 people way too claustrophobic 😢😢😢😢
Who cares...There are people who are passionate
Worst still going down in something that is classed as experimental...
It turns out that this guy didn't take safety of people on board seriously because it didnt have thing which would send distressed call signal so they can be located easily.
The guy was taking chances when he fired the employee that voiced concerns over its safety. Wish the other 4 people who signed waivers knew about this and made informed decision. Most likely they did not. No matter how much you hate Government interference but it’s there for Public safety. Not just his own employees but other companies in the same business told him as well that Titan needed ABS certification. He ignored everyone. Can you imagine flying without FAA, NTSB, TSA etc oversight? Human greed knows no bounds.
FAA “oversight” in regards to the Boeing 737 MAX 8 certification was a disgrace and downright criminal.
As someone who tends to lean more libertarian…you’re totally right. Not all government regulation is bad and there is just certain things that private industries miss on-like safety regulation.
Apparently the waiver has 10 different ways to die. So do we hope they knew? They knew too well
Its like summiting Mt Everest and not expecting to die.
@@JoeKyser they also said however that it’s not to say that the equipment is unsafe and that it was state of the art stuff but it was just new technology…the liability form is just for legality purposes
Under sustained load in the presence of seawater, carbon fiber tensile strength decreases 7 to 12%. Every time he took the sub down, he was weakening the hull, until he broke the camel's back. The last message he sent was that he was unloading ballast weights, so he must have sprung a leak in a stress crack and was taking on water. It probably wasn't long until the tiny crack opened up into a big crack and unfortunately it was game over. The hull should have been made from titanium, but he probably didn't want to spend that much money and was trying to get out the cheap way, with carbon fiber. He even said that he was breaking all the rules by building this first ever design. Why would anyone want to break the rules when it comes to something so dangerous?
He was trying to be innovative and do things differently than others / the tried and true methods. Titanic trips were meant to be a process to give his design credibility. He planned to approach big oil and gas after things dwindled with the titanic trips…that was his main goal. Because they spend $$$ on robotics….anyway read all that today…sad really.
Oh also ~~ he wanted to be able to take more people down….carbon fiber allowed him to take 5 ….
@@Seashellsbytheseashore21 You're right, he even referred to himself as an innovator. I think his ego got in the way of logic. When people told him that carbon fiber was not safe to use, he was out to prove them wrong. He was one of those know it all people that his ego wouldn't let him admit he was wrong. When an employee said the vessel was not safe and stress cracks were appearing, he fired the guy. Like you said, he wanted to have a bigger vessel to be able to take more passengers. When you're charging 250k, it makes sense to maximize profits on each trip. This whole carbon fiber thing was about saving money. A sub that size could have been made from titanium, but he probably couldn't afford it. From what I've heard, the end pieces were titanium, and I'd be curious to know how he married the titanium end pieces with carbon fiber hull. As you know, you can't weld carbon fiber. If the truth was known, the breach might have occurred at those joints where the end pieces meet the hull.
How do you know what his last message was?
Doubt they were taking on water as even a hairline crack would have been enough to implode the whole thing in less than the blink of an eye, even at the shallower depth they were at whilst still descending.
More likely the hull's stress sensors were giving him warnings so he decided to drop ballast and it was too late. Or more likely still he dropped _some_ ballast to descend more slowly as the reports are they were descending too quickly.
Either way it's extremely likely they would all have known something was at least partially wrong before the implosion. I'm sure the 19 year old was not taking that well certainly on the inside. Probably kept a brave face for his dad.
History repeats itself.
In a battle of true visionaries vs. laws of physics, the laws of physics will win every time
Looking how micro technology evolved laws of physics dont always win. They just limit advancement. We can now get transistors on atom scale which was not possible many years ago. Thanks to all research innovators and visionares we have todays phones which are multitools
Welp, this aged poorly. The irony is Stockton’s wife is the great-great-granddaughter of two Titanic victims.
I wonder if he had an obsession with the subject that he pursued her because of this distant connection. 🤔
She needs to stop feeding her relatives to that ship.
He wasn’t an engineer. A REAL engineer doesn’t allow their hearts to lead them. They don’t care about that. They care about safety, efficiency and reliability.
This guy wanted fame, he wanted to be a mad scientist, he wanted to do things cheep and he wanted attention and unfortunately fools with too much money and say, allowed him to do this and now people are dead.
If you are in a field of work that deals with the handling of peoples lives. Whether it’s a sub, an aircraft, a hospital environment, operating a roller coaster etc. YOU have a duty to protect individuals who use those services.
You don’t allow your heart to rule. People die when feelings become our focus. Save your feelings for your pillow and bring your brain to work instead. Simple as.
Maybe your mom cares how you feel, maybe your partner cares what your dreams are, maybe your dad, brother, sister, dog, whatever! But reality doesn’t.
Darwin award of the decade for this guy. Oceangate, a very fitting name for the company responsible for this whole debacle
Tough competition this year what about the kid that jumped off the ship
People die like that all the time, this was unfounded in its stupidity and avoid ability
I see this video is getting views now... Never heard of Oceangate till now
"Oceangate"? What, "Watergate" was taken? 🤔
@@BabySpit I must have missed that one. What happened with the kid jumping off the ship?
James cameron was able to go down there without any issues because he didnt buy his submarine off wish and his controlling devices from radio shack
He didn’t get the sub from Wish. 🤦♂️
@@FasterthanSpeed414oh my days he was joking
@@FasterthanSpeed414 it was a joke u idiot
@@SpaltonTAG he really think i was serious people are really slow af these days
😂 Yeah, James Camerons vessel was bonded with proper West Systems 105 epoxy not junk Chinese poly resin and they put the hatches on his with Norbar torque wrenches not a 18v Aldi rattle gun hahahaha
They are probably in one of two scenarios right now. 1. They were crushed in an implosion. 2. They are sitting in deep darkness with little food or water, oxygen running out, no hope of rescue from anyone else. In this case, it would be a bit like Sartre’s No Exit. It’s hard to imagine the emotions or conversations they would be having as they wait to die. If they can return to the surface on their own and signal their ship, that’s their only chance.
I can't comprehend the guilt of that father who brought his son with him
I was just thinking this is like no exit...hell is other people😢
I heard there were 7 ways to get back up even if there were power problems so i think its the first one
Theyre bolted in so they cant get out and signal anything... scary
If I had to choose it would be scenario 1. I wouldn’t be able to handle 2.
1:45 Yes because James Cameron filmed the actual wreck and is an actual expert on deep sea diving.
And was one of the people against it
In James’ defense he has made several deep-sea dives including a dive to the Challenger deep which is the deepest known depth Any human has gone
@antilag138 Defense of what? He is a deep-sea diving expert, he doesn't need a defence.
Another lesson from the Titanic was that no amount of money can save you
not just from titanic. hate to spill the big secret but rich or poor, we're all destined to die. it's a grand equalizer. and today i'm one day closer to my end than i was yesterday.
@@God.Almighty Yes, people always seem to think death is a surprise when watching the news, not an absolute certainty like taxes and change.
I think this guy was in love with the Titanic for whatever reason and he was going to use whatever resources he had to have a relationship with that wreck. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that dying the way he did, near the wreck, was a secret desire of his. It would certainly explain his lack of concern over a major safety issue like the area of the port hole being a weak point in the vessel.
His wife was a great great grand daughter of a couple in the original titanic...
Maybe he was a reincarnation of one of the victims.
@@vividarkhmm interesting comment
I agree completely. He seems like a pretty decent and intelligent guy. I think it was his dream to go down and he let his pride, arrogance, and drive get in the way and cost the lives of many.
Sejx with boat
What he's saying about it deteriorating and collapsing...and most people know better than to go in dodgy old half collapsed abandoned buildings and factories...now imagine doing that in an environment which is trying to kill you anyway, in a home made mini sub steered with a Logitech knockoff ps controller...
"Someday I'll go down there and it won't look the same" he says as he joins the exposition
Titanic : "You will not look the same"
Stockton Rush is actually lucky he went down with the Titan. If he'd been topside when the accident occurred, he likely would have gone down for criminal negligence. This despite whatever waivers were signed, since they were clearly signed by people who didn't know about all the warnings Rush had ignored regarding the faulty design of his submersible.
Welp, this company is toast.
How did Washington state let them operate so apparently negligently?
They’re also toast
@@BrandonGavin_EDCDon't be a troll.
@@BrandonGavin_EDC 😂 yes it’s the west coast
International waters, im no expert, but im assuming thats why they are allowed to operate with no safety certifications etc.
They operated in international waters, nobody could tell them what to do.
This is the absolute worst fate I could ever imagine , you’re stuck in a extremely tight space , it’s cold , dark and a remote place away from humanity just waiting to die if you haven’t already. The worst thing about it is , you don’t know if any help is ever coming or if you’re going to die and never be seen again
They're not stuck, they're crushed into red mist.
And your oxygen is about to run out. So sad. So awful :(
@@NatoHoroyou don’t know that
@@mistersirthegoodsir Oh, but i do.
@@mistersirthegoodsir my hope is that guy is right, that would've been fast and painless
Anyone else see the irony in this company being named OceanGATE???
Gate is applied to events that are scandalous and riddled with criminality.
It was a choice between Oceangate or Watergate, the company stands by its decision! 😉😂
Or UFO suicide cults...
Also the name STOCKton RUSH
I went to the liquor store tonight and had an extensive conversation with a lovely man who works there about all of this, and we had the exact same sentiment.. when will the world just finally let these souls rest in peace?
Liquor Haram
I thought the same thing. This wreck is a graveyard you should not disturb
Most people don't realize that the Titanic is a mass grave for over a thousand people, with 5 more being added to it over a century after it first dropped to the seafloor.
These angry spirits aboard the titanic said “f**k you we’re taking you with us forever “ don’t mess with grave sites
Omfg stfu, lets never visit ww2 graveyards, how about the pyramids, so disrespectful visiting them
I didn’t know it was that small of a tube. 5 people, are in there just sitting? You can’t even stand? Or sit straight. Ughh I can’t imagine. How horrible.
I’d go crazzzy! Go to sleep and hope to die in it 😢
hopefully, it was fast... one of the possibilities is a structural failure in the carbon fibre construction, if it does happened like that, their death would've been fast and painless, they wouldn't even be able to register what happened
I'm pretty sure I would've died of poor circulation after sitting with my legs crossed for multiple hours straight. They're shoulder to shoulder all with their legs crossed. That in itself is terrible!
@@crysjoli , I got bad knees, could never get in that death tube
It reminds me of a mri tube claustrophobic
Some strange facts:
1. CEO wife, Wendy Rush, is great- great granddaughter of Isador Strauss.
2. 14 yrs before Titanic, The Wreck of the "Titan" was published about the wreck of an ocean liner.
3. Titan is name of submersible.
Looks like the Titanic curse claimed the life of another billionaire.
what does point 2 mean?
@@slayerdeth0705 fourteen years before the titanic, there was a book published about the wreck of the “titan” which is literally the name of the oceangate sub
It is crucial to ensure accuracy when presenting factual information. In 1898, Morgan Robertson wrote a novella called The Futility, which was later revised and published as The Wreck of the Titan in 1912 after the Titanic sank. It's worth noting that the ship in the book was already named "Titan" before the revision. There are some similarities between the Titanic and the ship in the book, which you can research. The submersible was probably named "Titan" due to inspiration from the book or the Titanic itself, which is unsurprising.
Stockton rush was a member of, heavans gate'' the cult that thought hale bopp was the harbinger of the end of the world. 'ocean gate'' heavens gate... it was a suicide with 4 sacrafices. They all traveld to the next level.
@@jjhaya should have used the name Olympian
Maybe sometimes we have to learn that there are places on this earth that humans should leave alone.....
This morbid fascination (or even obsession) with disasters always baffled me. The Titanic is a water tomb and a historic disaster site. It's not a cool tourist attraction. Leave it alone already!
"us going back next year will be great" 😢 that's a haunting statement wow
My heart breaks for that 19 year old. He had no clue how incredibly dangerous this trip was😢
he is 19 hes not retarded
@@Nate-ur6rqand the son of one of the richest men in Pakistan . I have no doubt he would have turned out to be a giant turd like his father . Nothing was lost on the Titan
Exactly. I'm torn up about It.
Hes old enough
I think at 19 you can assess the danger very well. He is no longer 5
Wonder if they will ever have tourist trips to visit his wreck
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When this first happened I pictured Titan, hopelessly snagged on Titanic, and future submersibles slowly approaching Titan and peering in with their spotlights. Just another part of the sightseeing.
They’ll have to be satisfied with the mini debris field now.
Yes. Titanic expedition but you also can add a Titan wreck visit as an extra. 💰
theres nothing left bar two titanium end caps mate. Everything else got vapourised or liquified within 5secs
@@Domino13334 Great. You have the beautiful Titanic then you have this guy's shitty, exploded backyard welding project along with a cheap ass video game controller beside it.
It's like looking at a marriage video after the divorce
More like a happy marriage video after a murder-suicide by the husband. 😬
Aged like milk left out in the Sahara.
That's just craziness! Why anyone would climb inside of a sealed cylinder and drop 12,000 feet below the surface, with limited air supply, boggles the mind. There are too many variables, all of which point to, "don't do it"... but they did anyway!
Going down to the titanic in a submersible is, believe it or not, relatively safe. IF you go down in a properly certified vehicle, not some piece of crap homemade submarine built out of arrogance. The guy who ran Oceangate was told multiple times by so many people that his submarine was unsafe, HE BRAGGED ABOUT BREAKING SAFETY REGULATIONS because the submarine worked the first couple times because it turns out, safety regulations exist for a reason
Just thinking about it makes me feel a little anxious and panicked 😩
Balls
RUSH wanted to be a pilot, but did not have good vision, so he went to the sea to become famous. HE was not even a specialist of the sea, nor a qualified engineer. HE was a WANNABE engineer of the sea in search of fame at the expense of others.
Well it has been done hundreds of time before, so they thought nothing has gone wrong till now so why not
Imagine paying $250k to see the Titanic, getting into the submersible and seeing the captain using a Logitech controller for steering
Dude pulls out a Madcatz and says, "here's your controller bro."
Then he immediately stick drifts into a wall.
It is an old model controller released 10 years ago.
@@teflontelefonGoogle images in the comfort of one's own home is better arguably. The wreck should be left alone, it's a mass grave site of the passengers that perished.
I think you would say listen captain if you are actually using a 🎮 to steer my life into the unknown I am quietly gonna get xbox to take you to the dry cleaners for using a controller In a real adventure. 250k is a lifetime Xbox membership to receive anything you need
US Navy uses x box controllers.
“Someday I’ll go down there and it won’t look the same” that was…. creepy
Sad how he wanted to leave a legacy of innovation but sadly due to ignorance and cutting corners he died looking a fool to most people. Although he cut corners and ignored safety I still respect him for trying to create a new era of deep sea exploration. But now people interested in doing what he wanted to do will take what happened to him and his crew to better the industry. Rip to Stockton and the rest of his crew.
I totally agree with you. I think he shouldn't have turned a deaf ear to noises coming from his peers.
@@BIGFREAKYMAN I agree with you but there’s still a lesson to be learn from it
Netflix already finalising a deal on this
doubt it! they were all men..unless one one of them is part of the alphabet
@@alvarotorres5736there were two Pakistani people, probably enough to make an inclusive movie
😂
@@Ricko441 alphabet only!
I was just going to say that!
How did James Cameron go to the titanic like 30 times without major issues? Is it cause he invested millions and millions of dollars to buy the best equipment and hire the best people?
And he knew to make his money above water and on a much bigger screen 😂
Cameron went way way deeper than titanic. Marianas trench. With early 2000s Lithium batteries and a foam/glass shell. Looking back there is no footage of camera decenting. Just national geographic special. He likely did a moon landing in a studio. The white male movie maker goes to the deepest part of the earth alone with early 2000s tech. Not buying it.
@@MyFriendlyPup he did it in 2012, not early 2000s
@@MyFriendlyPupyou nutcase haha
@@di-gun5791they’re saying he did it with early 2000s tech
I feel sorry for all these guys onboard and there kids especially😢😢
Uncertified.. warnings ignored. A totally avoidable tragedy.
I saw no picture and no video of them going in the sub, maybe it’s all a cover up all of them were shady in a way or another except the kid !
@@elturko7003 wtf are you saying
Lol
I don't feel too sorry for the OceanGate CEO who fired the guy who told him the thing was unsafe at this depth. The others should have done more vetting of the company.
They need to stop giving him a hard time, he was under alot of pressure.
And even after all of that they were still only going to see it from a screen.
There's a window
@lewisb812 My apologies, for I am a moron lol
Just over the toilet.
@@keithholmes8709 4D experience with smell.
No toilet. Only water bottles and ziplock bags. 😞
Kinda crazy he’s just showing off his coffin
One crazy part about all of this is that the passengers probably had to sign a waiver acknowledging the dangers that clears the company of all charges.
A lot of those contracts don’t hold up in court
They did sign waivers stating that they could die from doing the trip
Correct!
@@lilyjessicalimmer7531umm yes they do. They are written up by judges, QC and lawyers mate they 100% hold up if you've signed a full waver.
@@bigduphusaj162t depends. Let me ask you a question. Let's say you invented an elevator and told people to sign a waiver that it is experimental. But if an engineer came by the day before and noted that there's a big crack in the cable and it isn't safe and you still give a ride to the public, does your waiver still hold?
Id say, and I know lawyers will agree, waiver or no waiver, that is negligence and manslaughter beyond the scope of the contract which only serves to hold the company harmless in case of an unforeseeable accident during an experimental phase of a project. That specific concern and the waiving of rights to blame is based only on the scope and impression given to the signer.
Now if the contract says I waive all rights to sue under any and all conditions including malice or manslaughter, you are running into some ethical issues in agreement drafting. Thus, a full waiver always has exceptions in consideration of how blatantly awful people can be.
The former CEO will be best remembered for his arrogance than his enthusiasm for exploring the Titanic.
Remember when he said he designed this submersible using his aerospace background?
Well, 3 people died inside Apollo 1 because they were bolted in and couldn't escape once it caught fire.
Just saying.
He wasn’t even enthusiastic for exploration, he was enthusiastic for profit and corner-cutting.
Nope, will be remembered as a great man cry about it
Idiot
@@MyStupidUA-camHandleYeah, he was great alright...great at being criminally negligent.
All of this just to see rusted metal at the bottom of the ocean.
Yes people are weird
It’s a grave site where people died in some of the worst ways to perish. It’s disturbing.
Exactly!!! I was saying the same thing
@@rachell8661es!!! Yes!!! Please respect it and stop the stupid tourism.
What's worse is that the rich people took precedence so most of the victims were poor people...who were now being visited by rich people...
That's not rusted metal!
That's the biggest ocean linear of 1912, "The Titanic"!!!
He took money from people and gambled their lives, he got exactly what was coming to him. I feel bad that the innocent others had to go with him, especially a 19 year old.
So your Saying he took the 4 people with him to die with him ?
Exactly. He should hv played with his own life not taken Tourists
@@mariyamniyaznobody is holding a gun to there heads. They literally do there own research and pay
@@oggualafeinbut he was lying to them how safe it was. He was trying to convince people that irs safer than on streets xS
the only innocent one in all this was the 19yr old kid. End of
The whole risk was becaused he was so obsessed by going to the titanic that he lost the 99% safety aspect of the submersible. People who build these kind of vehicles build them to be save as possible and not for diving to a specific object underwater.
Now future researchers can study how the Titan will decay at the bottom of the sea floor
A fine example of nature demanding respect from man. Man’s hubris led to the unnecessary loss of 5 lives 😮
She gonna have to earn it, so far she being ran through by humanity's giant global warming. 😂
God not nature you ungrateful person.
Covid 19 was a far worse tragedy of nature demanding respect from man...
‘And this, my friend, is where I will be laid to rest, next to the other 2000+ people in the Titanic’
That’s probably exactly what happened too. Breech in the vessel and the pressure crushed it. Losing ALL communications including the ping it sends out every 15 minutes, they say that’s the most likely scenario
Anyone who calls the ocean floor dirt would be a red flag !
Oh boy, now he’s forever part of the tragic legend.
The irony here was his name , Rush , well cutting corners and rushing into things is what he did , i think he went on every expedition because he knew one day it would fail and he couldn't imagine haveing to deal with the public, almost cowardly if you think about it ,,, rather die a fool then live as a bad example....
I’d say what’s even more ironic is how similar the captain of the sub and the captain of the Titanic were. The captain of the Titanic was repeatedly warned about ice in the area but kept going at full speed and what happened, a catastrophic event. The captain of the sub (Stockton Rush) was repeatedly warned about the materials used to make the sub (and got offended when this was flagged to him and even fired an employee for raising concerns) and that if he goes through with this a catastrophic event could happen and what happened, a catastrophic event
A piece of melancholic collection of someone who no longer with us.
I bet Stockton Rush was elated when he realised he wasn't dealing with journalists here, just publicists. Great work 👍
Can wrap my head at the fact that hes liquified and turned to nothing at the bottom of the sea😮
If I had that money, I would buy 10, 8k resolution monitors and surround myself with ulta HD video of a live feed of Titanic in a specially built, dark room. I would never, ever, ever risk going down there. Your resolution could arguably be better on the HD monitors. Same with audio.
They all played a stupid game and they just won a very stupid prize. Maybe it was a status thing- to brag about what they did and how epic it was. Dumb. R.I.P.
Yeah at first I thought there was windows that they could look out of with high powered lights to illuminate the wreckage…I didn’t realise they were just looking at screens displaying an image. Crazy.
@@thejudderman8265that's not true, there is 1 small window infront of the sub. It also serves as the "door" bolted from the outside.
Or VR headsets
@@thejudderman8265 Isn't there a small window up front? Still, give me my coffee and some 8k monitors. Who wants to see a rusty old shipwreck anyway- rather do a wreck dive. Sadly, these people had more money and ego than brains. they wanted bragging rights to their rich friends. Let's just say, it did not work out. Heck, pay someone to do some diligence on that shoddy vessel. Hard Pass.
I wonder what people would have thought back when we couldn’t even find the titanic. If they knew in the future billionaires would be going to visit it for funsies
I don’t fully understand the hate and shade thrown at the individuals who went on this expedition. It must come from negative self reflections because they were successful enough to make money. And then with that type of money they could have played life safe and did whatever. But they were living life by being curious. I could argue it’s a better use of their time and money than a ton of things the average person would do IF they fell into money or made it themselves. It’s sad they all died and it’s crazy they huddled up in that submarine. But I can’t knock the curiosity and balls.
Business can be very relentless if the owner intends to risk their own life and be responsible for the lives of their clients to make big money by giving them such a unique/inquisitive experience and not have any apprehension of the what if's
My claustrophobia would have prevented me from ever entering this tube of death.
Same here
Ha, wait till you see DSV Alvin & the Mir submersibles. 3 people in a steel pressure sphere. But they are certified to go to that depth & beyond.
James Cameron's "Deepsea Challenger" can go right to the deepest point on Earth, and it only had room for 1 man... in a fetal position.
"Someday I'll go down there and it won't look the same"
Yep, true to his words it won't!
Yep. The Titanic wreck has a little friend now, over 100 lonely years later.
He made millions skimping on safety. Sad he cared more about profit than safety.
The company isn't profitable. He made nothing but losses
How many Xbox controllers and handles from camper world can u get with $1m
@@MyFriendlyPup ofc they made profit everyone that was involved had made lol now they have to pay the family's 😂 all together
@@deliriumbee4678 i dont think they are obligated to pay the families, cos the victims themselves signed a death waiver
Sadly he won’t be able to enjoy a single penny of that money. Wonder if it was worth it for him.
The man who didn't believe his tin can coffin needed any failsafes and made money from expeditions to a ship which was boasted the be "unsinkable". Hubris.
Exactly. Beautifully said. Greed meets consequence…
7 emergency fail safes isn’t enough?
What are all of the fail safes when your up in the air in a plane?
@@oldironsides4107 normally, planes go under rigorous tests to see how pressurisation cycles impact the structural integrity of the craft. There was no emergency beacon on this sub should communications fail. I have to say, I'm no engineer but a vessel that communicates to the mother ship by text through a network that notoriously doesn't work well on land, is controlled by a clunky game controller from 2005, and uses old lead pipes for ballast, screams sloppy and an accident waiting to happen.
James Cameron explained that the biggest issue was the use of carbon fibers for the hull.
Apparently it’s widely known among engineers that you can’t use that material for extreme external pressure and it only works against internal pressure. Rush should have listened to any number of the people who told him it wasn’t possible to use that material for a reason.
in cycling world we called it CARBON LODI!
The titanium cap of the vessel was glued on with adhesive and it wasn't even done in a sterile environment; even if the alignment was within microns of tolerance, who knew what sort of dust particles got between the adhesive and the cap to create imperfections in the seal?
Not only that, but the glass of the viewing window was apparently only rated to a fraction of the theoretical safe depth of the vessel so that could've been another weakpoint.
And he was proud of himself, for breaking the rules
He did not want to recruit the help of “50 year old white males” and paid the price
50 year old white males also built the Titanic….
Nice investigative work guys 👍 so great to hear all about the safety concerns, totally not free advertising for OceanGate whatsoever. Bravo.
Almost as if most "news" is simply PR for the billionaire class 🤔
Can you look at the date when this video was posted? SMH 🤦🏻♀️
@@sunflowers_and_rosesI'm pretty sure they know when it was posted. Thats why they made the comment. It just went over your head apparently.
This has aged like milk.
i like cheese tho
aged like the cheap chinese polyester resin they used to bond the titanium end caps😂 Should have spent the extra and got proper West System 105 epoxy resin
All this work, all this documented…… building his own coffin.
Mess with anyone you want but never mess with Mother Nature
Hmm, trans people might beg to differ! 🤔
It’s crazy to actually pay attention to this design now and compare it to other submersibles and you’re just mind blown at how different this one looked.
He tried to cut the gadgets and the panels and double the size of a one or at most two person submersible and make it into a soda can with a game controller and a laptop.
I mean how….
Exactly, the question wasn’t “if” the sub will implode but “when” it was bound to happen with how it’s designed.
He was showing off how low tech the thing was. Even threw the playstation controller on the floor and laughed in front of the camera crew - probably getting his kick out of the reactions. The guy is pure ego with very little knowledge of what it actually takes to build something that is entrusted with the lives of people. His arrogance and lack of knowledge combined cost the lives of 4 others.
"needlessly prioritized passenger safety over commercial innovation"
You nailed it. His arrogance is off the charts. His cavalier way of throwing around the controller. It's obvious in his mannerisms that he thinks that he's above safety, he thinks nothing of risking the lives of others to go down to the bottom of the ocean floor. The height of hubris with Stockton Rush. Pride goes before destruction.
Logitech good sir
theres a dramatic irony that both stockton rush and edward smith both went down with their ships for the same reason, they just wouldn't listen to advice and do the safe thing.
Less titanium, more carbon fiber, lack of certification by professionals, did this guy even take engineering classes?
No
Why not just use steel though?... Way cheaper and more proven than titanium or carbon fiber.
@@harrypeterson9287 Steel is heavy, the weight of it will be an issue for the Sub, Submersibles have to be secure and have the ability to move around, with steel it would struggle to move around because the weight will cause it to sink and it will struggle to come back up. Titanium is just as strong but lighter, most submersibles are made of titanium because like steel, it is strong enough to withstand water pressure but it’s also light enough to where the Sub can travel and go up and down without issues.
The saddest part about this whole tragedy is that Mr. Rush ultimately had a very cheap way out of this whole mess. Nobody on board had any clue at all of the implosion, it happened so fast that they didn't feel or see a thing, its like somebody flicked a switch and boom, you are not there anymore. Its a solace for the families of the other 4 passengers but I cant help but think it would have been fairer if good old Stockton had been aware before his demise of his complete failure as an engineer, innovator and anything remotely close to a decent human bieng.
I imagine they would’ve heard the carbon fiber material cracking or tearing apart from it’s binding material, even for a few seconds I believe they heard the hull breaking before the implosion. Their mother ship also stated they dropped their weights for an emergency ascent. But we’ll most likely never know
Good point ser. He was scum
Agreed.
They knew something was wrong because they tried to ascend
@@adb8003"they" didn't try anything. 4 of them were simply rich passengers. Stockton was the only one aware of anything happening, and if he was a decent captain he didn't tell them of their impending doom. To tell the passengers would have induced panic for no reason. They couldn't have helped. He'd likely have just told them they were ascending.
They should’ve just went down 20 feet and played footage of the Titanic on the screen. Such an unnecessary way to go
or they could have had a long rope to lift the submarine back up by a strong ship
@@DBd-ko9vu RV that finds the debris have the long rope attached lol
Or sent a live stream camera in it unmanned.
@@DBd-ko9vu that would be very heavy, thats why it didn't have that
@@cherrydrivereviews8930 oh 👀
“Us going back next year is going to be great.” That did not age well….
It's a weird feeling watching the CEO answer questions about the trip knowing his whole body imploded and is now just a fine paste smeared on the walls.
More like blended into the sea
More like turned into plancton in literally milliseconds.
@@michaelmyersknife8426 I'm sure there would be parts of smeared human on the debris kid.
@@michaelmyersknife8426 When..?
The irony -him talking nonstop about the bow of the ship when it’s one of the things they found
The person being interviewed, Stockton Rush, is currently MISSING! He was last seen with 4 others in his tiny submersible attempting to dive down to the Titanic on Sunday June 18th 2023. Only 96 hours of oxygen is onboard. Scariest part: There is no hatch door to exit from. Even if the submersible managed to float to the surface 17 bolts are screwed in from the outside, holding the 5 men in tightly.
Wtf!!! Screwed in from the outside??? Also it is being controlled by Bluetooth!!!! Bluetooth always disconnects.
Imagine they are found and get to the top just as they are running out but they don’t unscrew the bolts in time
@@patrickbateman1434 that's an awful thought, reminds me of space movies!!
I'm confused how were they getting out when the resurfaced?
@@manesecretsthe docking ship would unbolt them
This guy will no longer risk others lives for money.May he rest in peace.
You have a problem with free will?
Everyone agreed and wanted to take the trip.
It’s like going for a hike or a cave or a cross country drive. Sky diving skiing.
There’s always dangers in everything.
You act like these adults were so naive and uneducated.
@@oldironsides4107exactly and everyone knew the risks
He was an awful person. He was a scammer. Now he can’t do that anymore.
@@oldironsides4107they all knew the risks and still step foot on that submarine that is notoriously known for not having any safety inspections. lol. id argue they’re more than just naive and uneducated.
I feel bad for the 19 year old kid. Probably felt safe with dad and I’m sure they thought that paying 250k for a ticket it would be state of the art and mostly safe. Poor kid.
Tragic how it happened at the end. He looked happy and optimistic about something. I can’t say I’ve ever felt like that about anything. Rip
He was an arrogant POS who only cared about fame and money.
I hope one day you find happiness. I understand what you mean but he was optimistic on a dangerously delusional scale.
we are witnessing the adrenaline spike of a psychopath.
yeah, that wasn't joy or optimism. that was derangement.
@@Pugetwitch u guys are so funny. He was genuinely passionate and excited about it. Yet you guys try to paint him as a literal star wars villain or someshit lmao
3:25 "Every year we go we're gonna get that very steady drumbeat of what is the process."
More like a sudden implosion of the process.
The definition of "F&ck Around & Find Out"