Crystal Radio--A Good 1N34A Diode Substitute (4K)

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  • I've gotten a lot of suggestions for alternatives to the 1N34A diode as a detector in crystal radios. I have tested several, including power diodes like the 1N4007 (not worth showing) and the Schottkey diodes (on the oscilloscope it looks good, but is muffled compared to the 1N34A or D9K in actual use).
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    1N34A
    Forward voltage drop: 1V @ 5mA
    Breakdown voltage: 65V @ 1mA
    Reverse leakage current: 30µA @ 10V, 500µA @ 50V
    Flat Junction capacitance
    Lower leakage current
    Absolute Maximum Ratings: (TA = +25C unless otherwise specified)
    Peak Inverse Voltage, Repetitive (I R = 1mA), PIV 65V
    Reverse Voltage DC, V R 20V
    Peak Forward Surge Current, Non−Repetitive (t = 1sec), IFSM 0.5A
    Peak Forward Surge Current, Repetitive, I FSR 200mA
    Average Rectified Output Current, I O 50mA
    Operating Junction Temperature, T J +75C
    Storage Temperature Range, Tstg −55 to +75C
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    D9K
    Maximum reverse voltage U(BR) 30 V
    Maximum forward current IF 60 mA
    Maximum reverse current IR 60 uA
    Forward voltage drop at the pn-junction U(F) 1 V
    Frequency range, maximum Fd 100 kHz
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  • @marcisberzins
    @marcisberzins 13 днів тому +4

    Not sure, but Д9К could be one of soviet germanium small junction diodes of biggest reverse resistance (subtype 'K' of Д9).

  • @robinj.9329
    @robinj.9329 14 днів тому +2

    The correct diode used to be readily available at every corner "Radio Shack"!
    I likely still have a few bags of a dozen diodes purchassed decades ago!

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  14 днів тому +1

      They are worth a lot on ebay!

  • @jim9930
    @jim9930 14 днів тому +2

    Something you should try: Anybody can find AA 1.5v cell. Two diodes, one forward biased with 1-10megohm feeding the second diode thru another 1-10meg. Microamps down into nanoamps will allow schottky, Si transistor junctions or whatever - just get close to turn on voltage to keep the impedance high.
    Matching the diodes is even better. Germaniums are easiest to match with an ohmmeter forward/reverse. Silicon by Vd. Rectifier efficiency goes way up... with a tiny forward bias. Below turn on; log characteristic changing to linear well above turn on. (simplest RF log convertor used in many RF voltmeter designs).

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  14 днів тому +1

      I saw a circuit diagram with that. Can't remember what it is called.

    • @jim9930
      @jim9930 14 днів тому +2

      @@tsbrownie You might want to look up 'temperature compensated' diode bias etc.
      Collin's Avionics had 200 service centers worldwide with 200 HP tube front end voltmeters spec'd across thousands of repair documents for hundreds of aircraft.
      ....only a handful of replacement tubes left from the original batch. And they were desperate! We got a contract to build an RF front end that had to exactly match the curve for AM peak detection. I did it with two schottky MBD701 Motorola diodes in series to get the 700 volts (capacitive divider) and another matched 701 for forward bias. $400k in the back pocket fed 22 employees that month with a weeks worth of tinkering.
      edit: Up to 500MHz and small signal, too. There is a ton of radios on commercial airliners - all FCC, FAA approved - no changes to meter specs without millions of dollars in rewrites. AM broadcast band should be quite easy & cheap to optimize...

  • @StepDub
    @StepDub 9 днів тому +3

    What about the OA79 ? I seem to remember using this device in a crystal set 60 odd years ago.

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  9 днів тому +1

      "Germanium contact point high-frequency diode, intended for use as detector in FM receivers". There are lots of diodes that sort of work, but give poor sound quality like clipping or low volume. I have not tried this one but it seems made for other purposes.

    • @StepDub
      @StepDub 8 днів тому +1

      @@tsbrownie I think it was included in the Philips EE kits, which I had. Worked quite well if I recall.

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  8 днів тому +1

      @@StepDub I'll have to see if I can find one to test.

  • @franzliszt3195
    @franzliszt3195 14 днів тому +2

    So does the D9K sound better than the 1n34a?

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  14 днів тому +1

      I cannot hear much of a difference. The D9K might have a higher pitch in the same radio.

  • @adnacraigo6590
    @adnacraigo6590 14 днів тому +1

    Where were you able to find your d9k diode?

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  14 днів тому +2

      I bought them on ebay. (There's a funny song about that from Weird Al Yankovic.)

    • @adnacraigo6590
      @adnacraigo6590 14 днів тому +1

      @@tsbrownie Thank you, sir.

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  13 днів тому +2

      @@adnacraigo6590 I found my order. The shop on ebay is called "Stavr-shop". I don't know him, but he delivered what was advertised. It did take a while.

  • @Lechoslowianin
    @Lechoslowianin 14 днів тому +1

    it is best to check such diodes on a working system

    • @tsbrownie
      @tsbrownie  14 днів тому +2

      I agree and I did that. For example, the Schottkey diode looks OK on the scope, but sounds muffled in a radio.