"new players" yea all the vets that want more characters to later on in 6 months inyect the gold they get from this "new server" to the main xD and then let die the server xD
If old players don't gate keep, it's all good! You don't necessarily need to play with new player, you just need people doing the same content and PATIENT people.
"new players" yea all the vets that want more characters to later on in 6 months inyect the gold they get from this "new server" to the main xD and then let die the server xD
One death = wipe mechanic in raids made me quit the game. It gives me zero incentive to take new players in specially when I have bazillion alts to run raids with.
Hey guys we made guardian raid 1 time per day instead of 2 ! We hear you guys ! Please come back ! Hey guys, new server is out - you can get to endgame ! Come back !
Yes, you will have to regrind, but everything is sped up so you can get to where we are in less than 6 months. 1580 is what we achieved in a year and a half.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth lmao another 6 months of nosocial life and to get nowhere again just to get cockblocked by pheons and other bullshit whales in raids? no thanks, game is still gonna be shit, i guaarantee no more than 30k players after this week.
@@myst2212 The boost they will give is for one char, not for alts. So no, you will not have 6 months of no social life, unless you want that to happen. But if you join the normal servers, then yeah, no social life. These upstart servers will give you the opportunity to play the game with one single character and to progress fast. Also, pheons will not really be an issue in these servers since they will grant plenty to new comers and they will provide events that supply you with more. And you won't need that many anyway on one single character. Game is great and not that difficult. Players are the ones that make the game difficult. They FOMO themselves, play more characters than they actually need and senselessly try to catch up with whales when they cannot, like you. If you judge yourself based on the standards of whales, then you can pretty much quit most MMOs because whales are everywhere. Also, whaling in this game is pointless. Whale for what? To fail mech? XD What kind of sped up route do you want anyway? Log in, be 1580 with 5x3+1, full lv9-10 gems and some and then go on pugs to fuck up mechanics? Players like you want instant gratification.
and the problem repeat again, old player pretend new player with toxic blame fresh real new player when the raid failed, and "real" new player quit playing again lol
Really? You guys are seriously considering starting completely over and drudge through the main story again? This game sounds more like a punishment than anything fun. There are so many good games out there. Why bang your head against the wall with the same game over and over and over again? I went back to Guild Wars 2 after 9 years away and having more fun than ever with the expansions. Most of these current games are money pits and boring grinds. Ok...sorry. So they are giving all those who start on a Fresh Start Server a boost to level 50 and 1415? Is that correct? I recommend those who have never played and boost to 50 just to get past the main story grind to continue the islands story. I boosted past all of that on the old servers and regretted that. It's like I boosted past all the fun quests I enjoyed doing. I want something else to do besides grind. This is one of the reasons I went back to Guild Wars 2. There's always something to strive for and do and you don't have to empty your wallet to do it. You buy all expansions and Living Stories and that's all you pay.
Oh yeah I'm not planning to play LA like a job anymore. But I can share my FFXIV time with the Fresh start. BTW there's an instant boost that skips MSQ even on your first char
@@SywoSan Got it. This isn't meant to be directed at you personally. I think you do a fantastic job on your channel. I just don't get why players in general gravitate back to a game that became a letdown when there is just so much other stuff out there. It doesn't even have to be something brand new all the time. Thanks for all you do.
@@GuruChaz Because for some people this game is not let down. I still have fun after 1,5 year. Raids, combat systems and classes are far superior to the other MMOs rigth now. And the most important i found friends here and we have a lot of fun. And the future of the game looks promising.
new servers wont keep gatekeeping away .. they will be casuals and hustlers again. More vets than actual new or returning players i bet. After a two months or three there will be the same problems like on current servers. this is just a temporary fix to get new people to buy premium services, skins and all that stuff you need at the beginning.
most vets wont bother doing everything again when they got already a great roster and they have to keep spending time on their main roster to progress. there might be some vets on first week for the hype, but overall its a server for new and returning player, thinking the opposite makes no sense at all. also, as everyone start with the same free stuff/boost, the game will be more fair, not like actual server where you start like a mokoko with barely any help while other have already 6xakkan roster with LOS 30 and roster lv 250
@clementguitard6653 a fresh start don't fix the games problems it already has. It will be more or less the same as the first launch and how its like now
I agree with u, this is a temp fix, but they prob use this time to find a perma solution, i hope, im a returning player (stop at 1380 gs) and i will only back to game because that new server.
They are literally creating fomo for the new server by calling it -"fresh start" -"isolated servers" -"jump to endgame" If you can't see it's a trick to lure in addicted players by fomoing them out - I don't know what to tell you. Do you really think "new players" will join these servers when the game hasn't fundamentally changed at all ? It's going to be infested with veterans & sweatlords or people who wish to pay2win on new server and be the one to gatekeep others.
Yeah... not getting the time gated costumes, mounts, pets you've already bought. Having to re-do all the rapport, ship, and seed grinding all over again, all sounds like so much fun...
I like a lot of the new content and the changes to reduce the grind but its not enough to bring me back sadly. The core progression system is still fundamentally flawed and encourages you to grind for long amounts of time doing mundane activities, if you don't you won't get into groups where the matchmaking actively encourages gatekeeping. Helping others isn't what SG want you to do, if it was there would be a system in place to encourage this. Instead it wants players to either play the game 24/7 or swipe. I won't be coming back as long as this is how the game works.
No thanks, fundamentally at its core Lost Ark is still extremely predatory and flawed. The game encourages gatekeeping. I'm not coming back and quitting the game was honestly one of the best things I've ever done in my life (mental health wise) and I don't think I'd ever come back unless they actually fixed the core of the game (which will never happen) and actually balance engravings so that alternate class builds are viable. I wish the game implemented more solo stuff so I don't have to deal with the toxic gatekeeping. Stuff like soloable raids. Black desert introduced bosh rushes and that was super cool. Why can't Lost Ark do the same thing?
Until the core infrastructure of Lost Ark changes like the peon system, terrible honing rates, facet stone horrible RNG and the complete removable of group wipes. The Jumpstart servers will be an EPIC failure.!
the main problem is that we still need to create alts when the dust has settled. there will be a huge gap between ppl who start making alts and ppl who don't and gatekeeping will return.
Of course, people who play more will be more ahead of those who don't....... 😂 idk why you'd worry about alts when you can literally p2w... at least alts take effort.
@@zhenyucai8688 both p2w and alts are shit. The problem isn't the effort, it's about what I'm willing to do as a player to progress, and I'm neither willing to spend money nor to create alts, therefore I'm forever going to be behind other players no matter how much effort I put on my main character.
@@jeffbiz9568 That's the same for every other MMO with a working economy and daily/weekly lockouts.... MMO just isn't your cup of tea. BTW you don't have to play alts. To make it to the current content. I've watched a small streamer korean streamer play 2-3 times a week for a bit in NA and he made it to the latest raid ....He just did dailies on rested did his raids and honed.
Sorry bruh but honestly the new server thing is a waste of time and money both for the players and those who developed it. Its something that came too late and little it has to offer. Thats my opinion and oh trust me most people think like that too. Who would waste their time on a server outside of the real game? That would mean even more time wasted and the gap between the new and the already end game players will be even bigger
Nah ! I don't think it's gonna work... since they merge with EUW we have more gatekeeping, more busers... this new server is gonna be more interesting for diz same busers who killed the game coz the "legacy" server will get less new players which means less buyers for their bus... ! so many of them are gonna jump there and start the same shit !! EXCEPT if they don't allow the bus... it can work and be more interesting than the current servers !!
My life is so much richer since I quit Lost Ark. I actually go out and socialize sometimes. Never had time for that before because I had dailies and raids to do. I'm spending more time with my dog. Sure I never completely neglected her, but now I have time to go out to the dog park or something and let her run around for a while. She's clearly much happier. I get more sleep. I exercise more. I have lost weight and feel much healthier. This can all be yours too, quit Lost Ark today! But seriously at this point it would take some *dramatic* changes for me to even consider ever going back. Like eliminating the gear treadmill entirely. Which I really don't see them doing, so that's that.
You had addictive problem and fomo. This was not game problem but your pure personal :) I am doing all my raids for max 2 days and i have pletny of time for everything else.
I still think this game has so many strong points but about the same has the same number of problems. The first problem, history content is gear-locked which is astonishingly bad. History should be fully accessible. The second problem, you are obligated to do legion raids, I like the game, but I don't like the raids, and by forcing people like me to do so, I just gave up. Should have other end-game content for those who like the game but don't want to do legion raids, and to not make the legion raids lose their importance Smilegate should create another end-game after the legion raids and let people choose if they will do legion raids or the new content horizontal to gear up to be able to access the new end game. The RNG piled up in another RNG and another RNG it's not fun, unfortunately, this game is a BLUEPRINT of RNG, it's just not fun. Just reduced by 50% all RNG this game has, This doesn't need to include HONING, even with not adding honing in the list of RNG still has probably a hundred things that are RNG in this game like drop, rewarded from content, and island, craft, skills, life skills etc.... To summarise, games being less stressful and less annoying doesn't mean the game is fun.
Fun to play alts he said? My guy is obviously sponsored to make such video and i get that but come on... Majority of people quit the game because of this alt nonsense lets be real
Yes belive it or not most people actualy have fun playing their alts. I am even for removing the gold earners restiction. What's wrong to like the different class gameplay. Class and combat are the best in LA.
Theres nothing wrong with that as long as you're not being forced to do so, now go ahead and check steamcharts you might find an answer as to why alts should have no impact on your main char growth. Its terrible game design and you know it. And when you're saying "most people have fun playing alts" then how come the game is dead? @@koynov333
A game is about the journey. Removing all that, and pushing new player past the entire story and the whole learning process is not what will make Lost Ark good in the long run. A lot of the fundamental issues have been given a bandaid, while the root problems still exist. The game is very fun to play - Combat is nice. But this fresh start approach won't fix or save the game in any way at all.
Its not the roster level which is a problem, its punishing content. People dont want to waste time with mokokos and noobs. If Im roster 230 i dont want mokoko roster 97 in my party, cause i know he didnt played much, and he will 99% fail something and wipe us all. Its logic. If content would be less punishing people would get low roster cause they would simply carry them even if they fail. So removing roster, gems or cards doesnt mean shit, they should change content because people are just bad at games
@@Purrrfect264totally agree! Smile should also remove the weekly entry limitations. I don't play alts and have a single high Lv character. I would love to run several times a day Raids and help players after my Gold run. This would help to reduce the amount of toxicity.
@@zhenyucai8688 It’s a good idea, but that will essentially mean paying for the same thing twice, which I don’t really like. And I doubt I’d find the platinum pack sorc skin at a good price
@@MrWardove Bruh I'm starting to get brain rot listening to this. If you're not even playing the game who cares about the skins you've already bought..... and if you are already playing the game. This server wasn't made for you.
I think what you said might end up happening after the merge. But for at least a month you'll be as geared as most fresh start players :D Worst case scenario a quick jump in-jump out kinda thing. It's free anyway
The power pass + express will keep you on “godlike perfect” gear. There’s no incentive for some veterans to play on fresh start, it’s targeted for new and returning players so if you make your parties you’ll get people that are on your same level.
@@Joe-fb9ns At launch you could clear multiple levels then go afk and get disconnected , and basically just do that over and over and you would get the roster exp everytime
I'm pretty sure I'm not coming back, however I'm curious whether the cosmetics purchased on the original servers carry over to the new ones? If not it's a shamless cashgrab lol.
lmao what??? since when did cosmetics carry over servers in ANY game? except new world maybe but thats a transmog stuff, u need to buy shit all over again guy
I quit after Vykas, just before clown launch, spent so much time doing horizontal content ( almost maxed all including mokkokos). If those new jump start servers included atleast all skill potions/biofrosts/wealth runes/stat elixirs I would come back to the game 100%. Just thinking about doing the horizontal content all over again makes me sick.
Yeah suggesting folks return for the JS servers is basically telling them to prepare to be overwhelmed by 9000 red quest dots, all the systems at once and an extremely toxic raiding experience. You'd stand a better chance starting fresh on Legacy and finding a guild/group to help catch you up than being on a JS server. Not to mention when they do merge PF nobody is going to accept anyone who's on JS. Your character will be black marked simply by that being your server.
*Friendly Reminder:* *A game that indirectly forces you to play it like a Second Job Is not a "Game" - It is an Addiction.* *Achievements means nothing, in a game that directly Sell Power or Lock content behind Paywalls.*
These new servers are just a quick cash grab, Amazon is going to get $$$ milked out of returning players, and then later when people realize the game didn't change at all in it's core they will just leave again.
Fresh start servers feel like a misstake for current server populations but it will be a good start for new players, and hopefully the old servers havent died by then when they do the server merges 6 months in.
You gotta keep in mind that all horizontal content is 0 there. If at all, only new players will actually move from existing server. I and some of my friends plan to create 1 char there to check out a class we've never played before but i doubt people would really go hardcore there. Way much to do weekly/daily and even more important all the horizontal content.
@@FroggyNakasuko yes and thats the problem, new players + returning players will use the "jump start servers" and on top of that old school players will start playing on jump start servers also, so older servers will become even less populated then they are atm. even the old servers need a influx of new players and now older server have to wait 6 months for a influx of new players. So i see this is a big negative for excisting servers.
@@FroggyNakasuko Also at this point they should just merge all of EUC into 1 big server with 20 channels, instead of the ambonation of a server cluster we have now.
@@trahanddarkeyes5329 One thing i hope to see is that fresh start servers will make a impact on the overal users, hopefully we see the concurrent player count go up to 50-60K but i am kinda doubtfull :P but miracles can happen.
Saved the video, I'm really interested in your opinion as I was a few times when I wanted to check the state of lost ark. Now I have an honest question. To be able to do pve raids instances whatever ;to be relevant. Do you still need to have multiple characters and spend x hours on the game? I love the game, graphics, gameplay etc but I'm not looking for a "2nd job". Big thank you to anyone who can answer.
@@diegomoscosoricardi1433 thank you for your response. my idea would be 2-4 hours its fine.but i don't want to not be able to connect for a day or two and feel like its pointless to even try to keep up
@@Bogdan639Rearsthat is the nature of such a p2w korean mmo. If you are a f2p, play 6 characters to keep up with the whales. If you are f2p and have 2 characters? Well see you in end game content after 3 years when the whales moved on. Best way to play lost ark is to right click it in steam library and click uninstall.
@@Bogdan639Rears Playing one character means you have more incentive to do dailies everyday compared to people with many alts but using rest bonus. On one character it's not long. Another thing is that 100% of what you get really go into that one character, no alt gearing and stuff, so I guess it should be feasible.
This jump start is completely shit and unnecessary, put the same events on normal server and it’s literally the same thing… the only problem this game have is alt ans roster pushing, hone one character is a pain the ass, now imagine doing it 5 more times to be on pair with others
They can't put it on the normal server because the specials events would break the normal server economy. The game has made it 1490 honing is free(most likely increase in the future). So if you feel like you have the time to do alts. Honing is free. Most top end players don't even play with a full roster because it's time inefficient. The events give you more than enough to push your main. And lifestyle gives a lot of gold. Honing alts to the latest raid are for people who want to play/no life the game. They spend gold they won't make back for a year.
Very tempting but there are too many other good games out there taking up my time right now. Just curious if Amazon ever solved the bot problem. Just before I quit playing last year bots were everywhere.
Good luck mokokos, it will be disaster, 2 months and servers will be ghost town. Gatekeeping again cause low roster lvl, nothing will change. Not to mention poor auction house, potentially low population, will be harder to gear up. Its nice they've done that but i dont think it will be a success..
I would return if you could continue to power up outside of raids as an older gamer my reflexs are not there and wiping everyone is obviously not an option So my end was Argos at if I recall 1470 or just below losing the gold reward
lol I'm guessing you are one of those that burnt yourself out early into the game and quit, and still hate it to this day... It's ok man, you can move on. Let other people try enjoy the game, it's ALOT better now
@@raveturkey1996 no new players will enjoy this game tho, the servers will have players for 2 weeks then only veterans will remain who want to make a second roaster
so if i have an account and create a new character in the fresh start server that character will be merge with the others? because having 2 accounts doesn't make any sense to me (i've played up to vykas hard so i was considering playing this new server to see whether i can get any fun from playing again with the new support)
i played this game up until Vykas Hard ( when was current content ) . Today i kinda returned to get some nostalgia out of it and it was fun. i remember i had a Blade at 1490, and with all this free mats i legit made a character 1480 in a couple of hours. Cleared some valtan hard, some chaos dungeons, weekly challenge stuff. My big issue is : i wanted to try Elgacia questline, until i find out that u need to repeat a bunch of pre-requisite quests ( Some that i already done in the past ) and some that i cant even talk to the NPC'S cause i dont have the charisma or whatever to do so . Also in a few groups i was doing Valtan, i realized that there's already gatekeeping/ toxic / quiters after one wipe . As a person that never did clown and brel ( even tho Brel is easier now ) it made me realize how much of a pain it will be in pug scenarios. I think a lot of returning players gonna be ending in the same line of thinking as me . A good nostalgia for a week or two , but once they realize why they did quit the game , they will think its not worth in a long-term game, and this servers gonna be full of veterans, just farming for the injections of new characters and gold once they merge the servers .
I am for sure going to get back to Lost Ark. I quit after 1200 hours at release due to burn but now I am going to try to enjoy the game and not just grind and grind. Also, I will just start a fresh roster and ditch the previous one entirely. Do you think a machinist would be a good main class? Last time I played all the warrior classes at endgame and got bored of them very quickly. I enjoy ranged magic or minion classes but at the same time I just can not enjoy playing as a female :(
Hey, as a new player to lost ark im choosing story express but i see there are options in choosing rewards, are some of them "useless" or better than other?
Good to be back What if start playing fresh start server but i cant reach endgame like stop in iLv1490? Do i lock in that server until i get proper endgame gear the account will deleted after the event ends?
I'm not sad about these modifications, but I'm very optimistic for new players, but my main problem is the Roster Level and the Titles. I wish they would have hidden it or suggested any other solutions, for example, making raids more easier low health meter (Easy Mode).
Got in contact with amazon support yesterday and asked about the fresh-start servers "merge". They said that they dont have any information regarding how it would be but they said it probably wont merge into any of the existing servers or into another roster. It will continue to be the new server but people will be able to do cross-server content with the old ones.
Well the game already lost a big portion of players maybe because most casual players (like me) couldn't keep up with other players and whales. And the solution they offer is a fresh server ?!! I said it before at the launch date that it was wrong to start with tier 3, we should have started at tier 1 and update the game with tiers step by step because the game needs alts + horizontal progress which is so hard and much stress for casual players. Add to this, that on launch they didn't release already existing classes like summoner, arcanist, etc and the need for a reroll.
Yeah many content creators knew about the tier 3 start before release, and most of us felt the same as you do. Imagine the complaints about not catching up fast to KR though :D
Pheons will never be removed. They reduced them for relic accessories. And you do not want them to be removed. Otherwise whales can empty the entire market of things and you are left with nothing to buy so you can build your character, especially in regards to tripods, stones or bracelets.
I mean, I'd jump on it if I could keep my current roster progress. But I actively disliked the horizontal grind, somewhat fun when you've got a lot of players doing it, but I don't want to spend another 2000 hours catching up to where I am. Allow me to get something that can help my active roster and I'm in, otherwise there's no point to starting fresh again.
@@FtoisMp Yeah, I already have 2 rosters. 1 on east that I play, and an old one on west that had almost 1000 hours of progress, which I lost when I went to east. Fuggin stupid.
@@austinwelch1132 That's why me and my friend completely quit, we started plaing on february 2022, server was a lot of players and when we came back it was basically a dead server filled with bots and once we couldnt even transfer our accounts to another server, we basically gave up. It was a fun time playing and we really enjoyed it but i dont see a reason to actually come back
@@FtoisMp Yeah, it's also a never ending gridfest. Even if you've done all the horizontal and have LOS 30, if you take a break, you're going to get gatekept. Gets old.
If im like right now like 1490 before Eglacia on my main will it be worth to just move on to jump start serwer to progress faster? (Im totally casual f2p 0 $ spend so far)
1490 is really easy to reach now days, I’d say to try them out if your main is: Not lvl 60, your roster isn’t lvl100, you’re low on horizontal/collectibles, why? The jump-start server is gonna have a 200% exp boost for you to reach lvl60, stronghold lvl60, roster lvl60, professions lvl60 and it’s not confirmed yet but there’s also a plan to speed up players on collectables. Collectables gives you access to some skill points and reaching lvl60 let’s you lvl up skills to lvl12. Either way, there’s gonna be plenty of new people/returning players in case you want to prog/learn the raids.
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No thx, I already have a RL job
Don't need one where I don't get paid.
"new players" yea all the vets that want more characters to later on in 6 months inyect the gold they get from this "new server" to the main xD and then let die the server xD
Can't wait to play with all the "new" players when servers release
there is lot of new and return players that are excited to play what I read in yt comments during past few days
If old players don't gate keep, it's all good!
You don't necessarily need to play with new player, you just need people doing the same content and PATIENT people.
"new players" yea all the vets that want more characters to later on in 6 months inyect the gold they get from this "new server" to the main xD and then let die the server xD
@Jarot_TV yeah it's simply a fad that will die put in a month. Wouldn't be surprised if returning players quit after doing akkan once or twice
man not decent player will full time the Jump servers, maybe at launch to see whats happening, but most will come and try and help people.
One death = wipe mechanic in raids made me quit the game. It gives me zero incentive to take new players in specially when I have bazillion alts to run raids with.
Hey guys we made guardian raid 1 time per day instead of 2 !
We hear you guys !
Please come back !
Hey guys, new server is out - you can get to endgame ! Come back !
Milking the remaining playerbase with "fresh isolated server".
Gotta inject that fomo to the addicted players. 💊
Fresh start?!
so i have to regrind all the shit that i grinded before?
no thanks
He explained, just watch the video well my guy
Yes, you will have to regrind, but everything is sped up so you can get to where we are in less than 6 months. 1580 is what we achieved in a year and a half.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth lmao another 6 months of nosocial life and to get nowhere again just to get cockblocked by pheons and other bullshit whales in raids? no thanks, game is still gonna be shit, i guaarantee no more than 30k players after this week.
@@myst2212 The boost they will give is for one char, not for alts. So no, you will not have 6 months of no social life, unless you want that to happen. But if you join the normal servers, then yeah, no social life. These upstart servers will give you the opportunity to play the game with one single character and to progress fast.
Also, pheons will not really be an issue in these servers since they will grant plenty to new comers and they will provide events that supply you with more. And you won't need that many anyway on one single character.
Game is great and not that difficult. Players are the ones that make the game difficult. They FOMO themselves, play more characters than they actually need and senselessly try to catch up with whales when they cannot, like you. If you judge yourself based on the standards of whales, then you can pretty much quit most MMOs because whales are everywhere. Also, whaling in this game is pointless. Whale for what? To fail mech? XD
What kind of sped up route do you want anyway? Log in, be 1580 with 5x3+1, full lv9-10 gems and some and then go on pugs to fuck up mechanics? Players like you want instant gratification.
and the problem repeat again, old player pretend new player with toxic blame fresh real new player when the raid failed, and "real" new player quit playing again lol
I have the feeling this will not resolve the gatekeeping issue, It will be the same dogshit all over again
Fresh start to milk new players in the same old way...
Really? You guys are seriously considering starting completely over and drudge through the main story again? This game sounds more like a punishment than anything fun. There are so many good games out there. Why bang your head against the wall with the same game over and over and over again? I went back to Guild Wars 2 after 9 years away and having more fun than ever with the expansions. Most of these current games are money pits and boring grinds.
Ok...sorry. So they are giving all those who start on a Fresh Start Server a boost to level 50 and 1415? Is that correct? I recommend those who have never played and boost to 50 just to get past the main story grind to continue the islands story. I boosted past all of that on the old servers and regretted that. It's like I boosted past all the fun quests I enjoyed doing. I want something else to do besides grind.
This is one of the reasons I went back to Guild Wars 2. There's always something to strive for and do and you don't have to empty your wallet to do it. You buy all expansions and Living Stories and that's all you pay.
Oh yeah I'm not planning to play LA like a job anymore. But I can share my FFXIV time with the Fresh start. BTW there's an instant boost that skips MSQ even on your first char
@@SywoSan Got it. This isn't meant to be directed at you personally. I think you do a fantastic job on your channel. I just don't get why players in general gravitate back to a game that became a letdown when there is just so much other stuff out there. It doesn't even have to be something brand new all the time. Thanks for all you do.
@@GuruChaz Because for some people this game is not let down. I still have fun after 1,5 year. Raids, combat systems and classes are far superior to the other MMOs rigth now. And the most important i found friends here and we have a lot of fun. And the future of the game looks promising.
if alts are required then im not returning
this guy is the reason why i started playing lost ark. he knows how to talk about the game to new players 👍
new servers wont keep gatekeeping away .. they will be casuals and hustlers again. More vets than actual new or returning players i bet. After a two months or three there will be the same problems like on current servers. this is just a temporary fix to get new people to buy premium services, skins and all that stuff you need at the beginning.
most vets wont bother doing everything again when they got already a great roster and they have to keep spending time on their main roster to progress. there might be some vets on first week for the hype, but overall its a server for new and returning player, thinking the opposite makes no sense at all. also, as everyone start with the same free stuff/boost, the game will be more fair, not like actual server where you start like a mokoko with barely any help while other have already 6xakkan roster with LOS 30 and roster lv 250
@clementguitard6653 a fresh start don't fix the games problems it already has. It will be more or less the same as the first launch and how its like now
I agree with u, this is a temp fix, but they prob use this time to find a perma solution, i hope, im a returning player (stop at 1380 gs) and i will only back to game because that new server.
They are literally creating fomo for the new server by calling it
-"fresh start"
-"isolated servers"
-"jump to endgame"
If you can't see it's a trick to lure in addicted players by fomoing them out - I don't know what to tell you.
Do you really think "new players" will join these servers when the game hasn't fundamentally changed at all ?
It's going to be infested with veterans & sweatlords or people who wish to pay2win on new server and be the one to gatekeep others.
Yeah... not getting the time gated costumes, mounts, pets you've already bought. Having to re-do all the rapport, ship, and seed grinding all over again, all sounds like so much fun...
Dont worry you can do it on multiple characters ! And have the same ammount of fun with different characters !
is it still the same number of daily and weekly quests?
It is the same number of quests but time to do them has been reduced by a lot
They did reduce daily Guardian Raids, and there's plans to drop a lot of weekly stuff, too.
"No, I don't think I will."
Same chore new server
sadly playing lost ark is a mistake haha, although the game has good gameplay, the progression is just mindblogging bad
Still pay to win trash. Don't take the bait guys.
I like a lot of the new content and the changes to reduce the grind but its not enough to bring me back sadly. The core progression system is still fundamentally flawed and encourages you to grind for long amounts of time doing mundane activities, if you don't you won't get into groups where the matchmaking actively encourages gatekeeping. Helping others isn't what SG want you to do, if it was there would be a system in place to encourage this. Instead it wants players to either play the game 24/7 or swipe. I won't be coming back as long as this is how the game works.
Right back at you bro
No thanks, fundamentally at its core Lost Ark is still extremely predatory and flawed. The game encourages gatekeeping.
I'm not coming back and quitting the game was honestly one of the best things I've ever done in my life (mental health wise) and I don't think I'd ever come back unless they actually fixed the core of the game (which will never happen) and actually balance engravings so that alternate class builds are viable.
I wish the game implemented more solo stuff so I don't have to deal with the toxic gatekeeping. Stuff like soloable raids. Black desert introduced bosh rushes and that was super cool. Why can't Lost Ark do the same thing?
Nope....remove alts....remove pheons....and stop forcing players into raids. What other MMO only has raids as an end game option? I'll wait ✋️
I wish there wasnt so much emphasis on raiding. I love the side content.
Until the core infrastructure of Lost Ark changes like the peon system, terrible honing rates, facet stone horrible RNG and the complete removable of group wipes. The Jumpstart servers will be an EPIC failure.!
the main problem is that we still need to create alts when the dust has settled.
there will be a huge gap between ppl who start making alts and ppl who don't and gatekeeping will return.
Yep the core issue with Lost Ark hasn't been changed.
Of course, people who play more will be more ahead of those who don't....... 😂 idk why you'd worry about alts when you can literally p2w... at least alts take effort.
@@zhenyucai8688 both p2w and alts are shit. The problem isn't the effort, it's about what I'm willing to do as a player to progress, and I'm neither willing to spend money nor to create alts, therefore I'm forever going to be behind other players no matter how much effort I put on my main character.
@@jeffbiz9568 That's the same for every other MMO with a working economy and daily/weekly lockouts.... MMO just isn't your cup of tea.
BTW you don't have to play alts. To make it to the current content. I've watched a small streamer korean streamer play 2-3 times a week for a bit in NA and he made it to the latest raid ....He just did dailies on rested did his raids and honed.
Sorry bruh but honestly the new server thing is a waste of time and money both for the players and those who developed it. Its something that came too late and little it has to offer. Thats my opinion and oh trust me most people think like that too. Who would waste their time on a server outside of the real game? That would mean even more time wasted and the gap between the new and the already end game players will be even bigger
Beep boop
New players are real and not generated
Beel boop, logging out. 🤖
Nah ! I don't think it's gonna work... since they merge with EUW we have more gatekeeping, more busers... this new server is gonna be more interesting for diz same busers who killed the game coz the "legacy" server will get less new players which means less buyers for their bus... ! so many of them are gonna jump there and start the same shit !! EXCEPT if they don't allow the bus... it can work and be more interesting than the current servers !!
My life is so much richer since I quit Lost Ark.
I actually go out and socialize sometimes. Never had time for that before because I had dailies and raids to do.
I'm spending more time with my dog. Sure I never completely neglected her, but now I have time to go out to the dog park or something and let her run around for a while. She's clearly much happier.
I get more sleep. I exercise more. I have lost weight and feel much healthier.
This can all be yours too, quit Lost Ark today!
But seriously at this point it would take some *dramatic* changes for me to even consider ever going back. Like eliminating the gear treadmill entirely. Which I really don't see them doing, so that's that.
😂
You had addictive problem and fomo. This was not game problem but your pure personal :) I am doing all my raids for max 2 days and i have pletny of time for everything else.
I still think this game has so many strong points but about the same has the same number of problems.
The first problem, history content is gear-locked which is astonishingly bad. History should be fully accessible.
The second problem, you are obligated to do legion raids, I like the game, but I don't like the raids, and by forcing people like me to do so, I just gave up. Should have other end-game content for those who like the game but don't want to do legion raids, and to not make the legion raids lose their importance Smilegate should create another end-game after the legion raids and let people choose if they will do legion raids or the new content horizontal to gear up to be able to access the new end game.
The RNG piled up in another RNG and another RNG it's not fun, unfortunately, this game is a BLUEPRINT of RNG, it's just not fun. Just reduced by 50% all RNG this game has, This doesn't need to include HONING, even with not adding honing in the list of RNG still has probably a hundred things that are RNG in this game like drop, rewarded from content, and island, craft, skills, life skills etc....
To summarise, games being less stressful and less annoying doesn't mean the game is fun.
I think the entire game has to be revamped for me to play. Outside of the animations, I don’t care to ever play again
sigh i still regret playing on us west
Fun to play alts he said? My guy is obviously sponsored to make such video and i get that but come on... Majority of people quit the game because of this alt nonsense lets be real
Yes belive it or not most people actualy have fun playing their alts. I am even for removing the gold earners restiction. What's wrong to like the different class gameplay. Class and combat are the best in LA.
Theres nothing wrong with that as long as you're not being forced to do so, now go ahead and check steamcharts you might find an answer as to why alts should have no impact on your main char growth. Its terrible game design and you know it. And when you're saying "most people have fun playing alts" then how come the game is dead? @@koynov333
A game is about the journey. Removing all that, and pushing new player past the entire story and the whole learning process is not what will make Lost Ark good in the long run.
A lot of the fundamental issues have been given a bandaid, while the root problems still exist.
The game is very fun to play - Combat is nice.
But this fresh start approach won't fix or save the game in any way at all.
That's a goofy way to think. Not everyone plays games for the same reason.
@@zhenyucai8688 - I guess it's "goofy" because it doesn't match your perspective. Great arguement :)
Milking the remaining playerbase with "fresh isolated server".
Gotta inject that fomo to the addicted players.
No thanks, never again :D
Remove roster levels, lol. Its a good way to stop people judging you when. Give those who completed roster/went high special rewards for doing so.
they will find other ways to judge ppls
@@favekev7235YEP there always will be THAT one thing to “filter” people, happens on every MMO that I know of.
Its not the roster level which is a problem, its punishing content. People dont want to waste time with mokokos and noobs. If Im roster 230 i dont want mokoko roster 97 in my party, cause i know he didnt played much, and he will 99% fail something and wipe us all. Its logic. If content would be less punishing people would get low roster cause they would simply carry them even if they fail. So removing roster, gems or cards doesnt mean shit, they should change content because people are just bad at games
@@Purrrfect264totally agree! Smile should also remove the weekly entry limitations. I don't play alts and have a single high Lv character. I would love to run several times a day Raids and help players after my Gold run. This would help to reduce the amount of toxicity.
If I’d get all the costumes I already bought, I’d probably try a fresh start. But without them it just feels like a rip off
Just buy them from the market, they'll probably be really cheap at the start.
@@zhenyucai8688 It’s a good idea, but that will essentially mean paying for the same thing twice, which I don’t really like. And I doubt I’d find the platinum pack sorc skin at a good price
@@MrWardove Bruh I'm starting to get brain rot listening to this. If you're not even playing the game who cares about the skins you've already bought..... and if you are already playing the game. This server wasn't made for you.
im still casual player so there is nothing new,why return when elitist/whale players will reject me because my gear is not godlike perfect.
I think what you said might end up happening after the merge. But for at least a month you'll be as geared as most fresh start players :D Worst case scenario a quick jump in-jump out kinda thing. It's free anyway
The power pass + express will keep you on “godlike perfect” gear.
There’s no incentive for some veterans to play on fresh start, it’s targeted for new and returning players so if you make your parties you’ll get people that are on your same level.
God damn since when guardiola playing lost ark?!
No its not, im not gonna do chaos and guardias daily, bye
Can we still do the tower exploit for roster exp
its not rlly an exploit u can only do it once per character and answer is yes
@@Joe-fb9ns At launch you could clear multiple levels then go afk and get disconnected , and basically just do that over and over and you would get the roster exp everytime
Can't wait to play the exact same game with the exact same issues xdd really excited about it!
what issues are u referring to?
You don't have to?
I'm pretty sure I'm not coming back, however I'm curious whether the cosmetics purchased on the original servers carry over to the new ones? If not it's a shamless cashgrab lol.
lmao what??? since when did cosmetics carry over servers in ANY game? except new world maybe but thats a transmog stuff, u need to buy shit all over again guy
thank you for the explanation. No I don't think I will :) @@myst2212
@@myst2212 Not to mention transmog in New World costs $.
Dude, how many MMOs offered you this opportunity? Are you fucking deluded?
They will move over with you into the next server, idk why ppl think the opposite.
I quit after Vykas, just before clown launch, spent so much time doing horizontal content ( almost maxed all including mokkokos). If those new jump start servers included atleast all skill potions/biofrosts/wealth runes/stat elixirs I would come back to the game 100%. Just thinking about doing the horizontal content all over again makes me sick.
Yeah suggesting folks return for the JS servers is basically telling them to prepare to be overwhelmed by 9000 red quest dots, all the systems at once and an extremely toxic raiding experience. You'd stand a better chance starting fresh on Legacy and finding a guild/group to help catch you up than being on a JS server.
Not to mention when they do merge PF nobody is going to accept anyone who's on JS. Your character will be black marked simply by that being your server.
*Friendly Reminder:*
*A game that indirectly forces you to play it like a Second Job Is not a "Game" - It is an Addiction.*
*Achievements means nothing, in a game that directly Sell Power or Lock content behind Paywalls.*
Biggest turn off for me are runes, cards and books, is there a way to permanently get those easily? I want a striker.
These new servers are just a quick cash grab, Amazon is going to get $$$ milked out of returning players, and then later when people realize the game didn't change at all in it's core they will just leave again.
I am debating if I should Do the story Express. I have quested through that story 2-3 times and its enough 😄
I watch all of this whit 3k hours and no intention on starting on the jump start servers
Fresh start servers feel like a misstake for current server populations but it will be a good start for new players, and hopefully the old servers havent died by then when they do the server merges 6 months in.
You gotta keep in mind that all horizontal content is 0 there. If at all, only new players will actually move from existing server. I and some of my friends plan to create 1 char there to check out a class we've never played before but i doubt people would really go hardcore there. Way much to do weekly/daily and even more important all the horizontal content.
@@FroggyNakasuko yes and thats the problem, new players + returning players will use the "jump start servers" and on top of that old school players will start playing on jump start servers also, so older servers will become even less populated then they are atm. even the old servers need a influx of new players and now older server have to wait 6 months for a influx of new players.
So i see this is a big negative for excisting servers.
@@FroggyNakasuko Also at this point they should just merge all of EUC into 1 big server with 20 channels, instead of the ambonation of a server cluster we have now.
Its a good thing to keep in mind that its "within 6 months" based on server population. It can be before the 6 month Mark.
@@trahanddarkeyes5329 One thing i hope to see is that fresh start servers will make a impact on the overal users, hopefully we see the concurrent player count go up to 50-60K but i am kinda doubtfull :P but miracles can happen.
I quit because of P2W and the need to play like 5 characters to keep up with whales. Too little too late.
No thanks
game still good till get on after valtan than just annoying, thaty why tons of many people quit
Can the netherlands play already or what? I hate using VPNs
was surprised to see a lot of new low roaster players who actually are new players who started bc game became more easy
Saved the video, I'm really interested in your opinion as I was a few times when I wanted to check the state of lost ark. Now I have an honest question. To be able to do pve raids instances whatever ;to be relevant. Do you still need to have multiple characters and spend x hours on the game? I love the game, graphics, gameplay etc but I'm not looking for a "2nd job". Big thank you to anyone who can answer.
depends on ur time my friend, i play with only 2 characters and have a lot of fun
@@diegomoscosoricardi1433 thank you for your response. my idea would be 2-4 hours its fine.but i don't want to not be able to connect for a day or two and feel like its pointless to even try to keep up
@@Bogdan639Rearsthat is the nature of such a p2w korean mmo. If you are a f2p, play 6 characters to keep up with the whales. If you are f2p and have 2 characters? Well see you in end game content after 3 years when the whales moved on. Best way to play lost ark is to right click it in steam library and click uninstall.
@@Bogdan639Rears Playing one character means you have more incentive to do dailies everyday compared to people with many alts but using rest bonus. On one character it's not long. Another thing is that 100% of what you get really go into that one character, no alt gearing and stuff, so I guess it should be feasible.
So all the skins that were paid for including the $100 edition ones are just gone on fresh start servers? Yeah no thanks
They didn't mention which skins afaik. Guess we'll have to see
This jump start is completely shit and unnecessary, put the same events on normal server and it’s literally the same thing… the only problem this game have is alt ans roster pushing, hone one character is a pain the ass, now imagine doing it 5 more times to be on pair with others
They can't put it on the normal server because the specials events would break the normal server economy. The game has made it 1490 honing is free(most likely increase in the future). So if you feel like you have the time to do alts. Honing is free. Most top end players don't even play with a full roster because it's time inefficient. The events give you more than enough to push your main. And lifestyle gives a lot of gold.
Honing alts to the latest raid are for people who want to play/no life the game. They spend gold they won't make back for a year.
Nah.
Very tempting but there are too many other good games out there taking up my time right now. Just curious if Amazon ever solved the bot problem. Just before I quit playing last year bots were everywhere.
There’s always be bots, however they have been doing a good job to lesser the amount of bots + china has their own servers now.
bruh its sooo good now i never even hit 50 when game came out now im fully back in
this game is very grindy it might not be for u
No, this is trap im pretty sure, nice try lost ark
New to the game Am I too late to join this server?
Good luck mokokos, it will be disaster, 2 months and servers will be ghost town. Gatekeeping again cause low roster lvl, nothing will change. Not to mention poor auction house, potentially low population, will be harder to gear up. Its nice they've done that but i dont think it will be a success..
Hello sywo, would you play on the fresh start server?
It would be nice to play with you some times, but i m in Legacy one
March 24? 6 months almost dude.
You made the right choice to drop Diablo IV and come back to us as shown by the lack of viewers and audience in the Diablo IV live stream in Korea
Yeah nah, not willing to do story again
Im new player and start the game from 4 days when i reached gear 300 there is no players to grind with you so i must wait freah server
btw do you gain any benefits for having an character on the old account? Like items/mounts etc or is it totally seperate from each other?
I would return if you could continue to power up outside of raids as an older gamer my reflexs are not there and wiping everyone is obviously not an option
So my end was Argos at if I recall 1470 or just below losing the gold reward
Can't wait for the new players to quit when they have to face the ALT reality. Worst system in any mmo i've ever played
That u need tons of ALT is just people say that are bad at math
Alts are one of the fun aspects. Different class, different gameplay. What's wrong?
lol I'm guessing you are one of those that burnt yourself out early into the game and quit, and still hate it to this day...
It's ok man, you can move on.
Let other people try enjoy the game, it's ALOT better now
@@raveturkey1996 no new players will enjoy this game tho, the servers will have players for 2 weeks then only veterans will remain who want to make a second roaster
@@yato8645 point me one other mmorpg (any of you liking & choice) that lets you delegate gold earning characters.
Big lmao.
so if i have an account and create a new character in the fresh start server that character will be merge with the others? because having 2 accounts doesn't make any sense to me (i've played up to vykas hard so i was considering playing this new server to see whether i can get any fun from playing again with the new support)
do we get another pass on jump start servers ?. I just cant decide what should i play. I wanna play sharpshooter, soulfist or gunslinger.
Are u returning to lost ark?
i m coming back.from 0 to hero agen :D ah its not from 0.then skip nothing new and fun
dedicated sea server pls
That's a pretty dark take bro '' Take each day as if it's your last'' O_O
i played this game up until Vykas Hard ( when was current content ) . Today i kinda returned to get some nostalgia out of it and it was fun. i remember i had a Blade at 1490, and with all this free mats i legit made a character 1480 in a couple of hours. Cleared some valtan hard, some chaos dungeons, weekly challenge stuff. My big issue is : i wanted to try Elgacia questline, until i find out that u need to repeat a bunch of pre-requisite quests ( Some that i already done in the past ) and some that i cant even talk to the NPC'S cause i dont have the charisma or whatever to do so . Also in a few groups i was doing Valtan, i realized that there's already gatekeeping/ toxic / quiters after one wipe . As a person that never did clown and brel ( even tho Brel is easier now ) it made me realize how much of a pain it will be in pug scenarios. I think a lot of returning players gonna be ending in the same line of thinking as me . A good nostalgia for a week or two , but once they realize why they did quit the game , they will think its not worth in a long-term game, and this servers gonna be full of veterans, just farming for the injections of new characters and gold once they merge the servers .
Fresh start hype fresh start hype! (if you know you know) XD
I wish that i dont have to go to raids to level up gwars etc la la la.. i wish there is option to do so ..but anyway lost ark is cute😂🤦🏽♀️
I am for sure going to get back to Lost Ark.
I quit after 1200 hours at release due to burn but now I am going to try to enjoy the game and not just grind and grind. Also, I will just start a fresh roster and ditch the previous one entirely.
Do you think a machinist would be a good main class? Last time I played all the warrior classes at endgame and got bored of them very quickly. I enjoy ranged magic or minion classes but at the same time I just can not enjoy playing as a female :(
Both specs good now
Play AT scouter it’s really good atm!
Scouter is broken. AT is top tier and transformation is disgustingly strong for a transformation class.
new player here. What is AT? :) @@zhenyucai8688
Hey, as a new player to lost ark im choosing story express but i see there are options in choosing rewards, are some of them "useless" or better than other?
What is it about
new :D i bet half of them will be veterans to sell bus
Any horizontal progression boosts? Like rapore ? Or still gonna take me a month for Fast ship?
Good to be back What if start playing fresh start server but i cant reach endgame like stop in iLv1490? Do i lock in that server until i get proper endgame gear the account will deleted after the event ends?
You keep your progress, the server just joins the main servers after a period of time.
I'm not sad about these modifications, but I'm very optimistic for new players, but my main problem is the Roster Level and the Titles. I wish they would have hidden it or suggested any other solutions, for example, making raids more easier low health meter (Easy Mode).
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If you make a new character on the new server, what happens with all the skins, and mounts you had purchased on the legacy server?
The server is going to be merged with the others in 3-6 months as stated in the vid. So you won't have them for 3-6 months
@@uncleruckkus6867 ahhh gotcha, thanks!
Got in contact with amazon support yesterday and asked about the fresh-start servers "merge". They said that they dont have any information regarding how it would be but they said it probably wont merge into any of the existing servers or into another roster. It will continue to be the new server but people will be able to do cross-server content with the old ones.
Thanks for the info. This makes complete sense tbh - merging with existing roaster is probably not even possible technically
Well the game already lost a big portion of players maybe because most casual players (like me) couldn't keep up with other players and whales. And the solution they offer is a fresh server ?!!
I said it before at the launch date that it was wrong to start with tier 3, we should have started at tier 1 and update the game with tiers step by step because the game needs alts + horizontal progress which is so hard and much stress for casual players. Add to this, that on launch they didn't release already existing classes like summoner, arcanist, etc and the need for a reroll.
Yeah many content creators knew about the tier 3 start before release, and most of us felt the same as you do. Imagine the complaints about not catching up fast to KR though :D
still sad that there's no news about Female Paladin what so ever Q w Q
Did they removed Pheons yet ?
Nope. Just installed it last week to jump back into the fresh start servers and that bullshit is still there
Pheons will never be removed. They reduced them for relic accessories. And you do not want them to be removed. Otherwise whales can empty the entire market of things and you are left with nothing to buy so you can build your character, especially in regards to tripods, stones or bracelets.
LOL no. But they said they'll give them for free on fresh start haha
They are still there, but they reduced the prices for epic, legendary and relic gear.
Thanks for this video Sywo! Love & Light
I mean, I'd jump on it if I could keep my current roster progress. But I actively disliked the horizontal grind, somewhat fun when you've got a lot of players doing it, but I don't want to spend another 2000 hours catching up to where I am. Allow me to get something that can help my active roster and I'm in, otherwise there's no point to starting fresh again.
they dont even give u the option to change server like come on
@@FtoisMp Yeah, I already have 2 rosters. 1 on east that I play, and an old one on west that had almost 1000 hours of progress, which I lost when I went to east. Fuggin stupid.
@@austinwelch1132 That's why me and my friend completely quit, we started plaing on february 2022, server was a lot of players and when we came back it was basically a dead server filled with bots and once we couldnt even transfer our accounts to another server, we basically gave up. It was a fun time playing and we really enjoyed it but i dont see a reason to actually come back
@@FtoisMp Yeah, it's also a never ending gridfest. Even if you've done all the horizontal and have LOS 30, if you take a break, you're going to get gatekept. Gets old.
If im like right now like 1490 before Eglacia on my main will it be worth to just move on to jump start serwer to progress faster? (Im totally casual f2p 0 $ spend so far)
1490 is really easy to reach now days, I’d say to try them out if your main is: Not lvl 60, your roster isn’t lvl100, you’re low on horizontal/collectibles, why? The jump-start server is gonna have a 200% exp boost for you to reach lvl60, stronghold lvl60, roster lvl60, professions lvl60 and it’s not confirmed yet but there’s also a plan to speed up players on collectables.
Collectables gives you access to some skill points and reaching lvl60 let’s you lvl up skills to lvl12.
Either way, there’s gonna be plenty of new people/returning players in case you want to prog/learn the raids.
@@tanatos1997 thanks