This airline situation is ridiculous. This is no different from leaving a child or a pet locked in a car. No air and no way to leave. This is criminal. Period.
Isn’t there a “law” stating passengers cannot be held on a plane longer than 3 hours for domestic and 4 hours for overseas flights? Someone needs to contact a lawyer for clarification and possibly a lawsuit, if they haven’t already done so! What they went through was cruel and in my opinion unconscionable!
Delta - no excuse. Either get the plane back to the gate or get a stairway up to the plane and get them off. You deserve to be sued big time for this. Even if no one died there will be lots of heat related injuries.
Let me get legalistic here. The airline was on a tarmac….not in the air. Not returning to the gate and disembarking was “false imprisonment”. Anyone in the criminal justice system knows that event is one to avoid at all costs. Second, this should constitute reckless endangerment charges against who ever denied disembarkation. Third….if there were children onboard, addition child protection laws were violated. Until passengers and the media aggressively pursue this through legislation and civil lawsuit….what has the airline to loose? Everyone of these passengers, and crew, need to begin a class action suit. There were real and severe consequences to this malfeasance by the airline.
The Las Vegas info, is simply unbelievable. As travelers, we have to be ready for the known, the anticipated, and the unimaginable. We know to take snacks, water, etc. However, even the most seasoned traveler might not have been ready for a four hour standstill in 111° temps. Thanks for the update ❤
Does anyone hear Lawsuits coming Delta’s way? I would sure think so endangering the lives of trapped passengers in that way. Some people might have died, fortunately no one did - this time.
Hi Don, We're on the pride in Kiel...we will not be heading to Dover for the foreseeable future. Parts had to be ordered and are on the way. We will be moving from the cruise terminal to a cargo terminal tonight around midnight and all remaining passengers onboard will not be allowed to leave the ship for the remainder of our stay in Kiel....also the port missed was Gothenburg, Sweden.
We live in Henderson, Nevada next door to Las Vegas, Nevada and Harry Reid International Airport and I feel for the passengers on that plane. It’s been unusually hot this summer. I’m not 100% sure why this aircraft was delayed so long, but I can tell you that when it gets above 110+ here ATC requires further distances between planes. Hot air is less dense, something like that. Love the channel.
I know what you mean about no a/c until the plane starts. I used to fly between Dallas and Houston every week but fortunately never had a long delay. But it definitely gets hot. I can’t imagine why the crew didn’t offload passengers after an hour. Seems like common sense is very uncommon these days. And they tell us crews priority is supposed to be passenger safety-guess not!!
We were on the same flight (DL555 LAS-ATL) two weeks before when it was 101F in LAS. The AC did not work on the taxi out, it was hot and people were complaining. I don’t think this is an isolated incident. DL seems to have mtce pblms with their 757 fleet. P.S. It also took us 13 1/2 hrs to get ATL-LAS on a Delta 757 on the trip out due to a mtce divert to MEM!
We just spent over 7 hours on a Delta flight from JFK to Atlanta. Yup...2 hour flight time, but 7 hours from boarding in JFK to deplaning at ATL. Boarded at 11 a.m. and sat on the runway for 2 1/2 hours before returning to the gate and waiting for another 2 hours. One passenger got confrontational and demanded to be let off. He voluntarily deplaned while we waited at the gate. Needless to say, this is how in-flight incidents start. Finally taxied back out and got into the air almost 5 hours late. OK, we got there safely, but c'mon...this is getting crazy. We didn't get off the plane until 6:15 p.m. Then connecting flight was delayed another 2 hours while they waited for those pilots to arrive on an inbound flight...chaos much? I will say the flight crews were professional and kept us informed. Remember, it isn't their idea to endure these delays. I'm sure this isn't any fun for flight crews either.
I was stuck in a plane on a runway for 4+ hours many years ago, and a portable air conditioning unit was brought out and attached to the plane. I wonder why something like that couldn't have been done.
Maybe they were already in use by other planes? Just a guess. I also suppose they don't keep many of those units around, though perhaps now they will order more of them. The whole thing stinks of lack of common sense on the part of the crew and the airport management.
Which port in Switzerland did the Carnival Pride have to skip? You seem to be reporting more and more cruise ships going to Switzerland and I am curious of the route and which ports are becoming popular? Does it go to Zurichsee or Lake Lucerne? or all the way to the lake at Geneve? Did they build and underground canal from Germany down to Switzerland? 🙂 AIS now reports that the ship was moved from the western side of port starting at 21:10 UTC (23:10 local time) to a cruise dock on eastern side of bay and it took about 1 hour to do the move. The skip first pulled out backwards of port for quite some distance and then forwards to the new dock. Don't have enough access to know if it moved under its own power or not.
I think once the door is closed and the plane pulls away from the terminal it counts as an on time departure. This happened once to on a flight for about an hour and not as hot. Also if it gets to hot planes can be grounded for high temperatures
So sad about the pride. We just cruised on the Pride from June 9-30 and no problems then. Vegas is horribly hot in late July. We can't even go outside until about midnight. I don't understand how this could have been allowed. So dangerous!
I would have been one of those people carried out on a stretcher-IF I hadn’t died. I cannot handle hot temperatures for any length of time (an hour at best) without getting ill. I am a “young” senior citizen-the older I get, the less able I am able to tolerate heat. I can see the lawsuits against Delta piling up already. This was just a common sense thing-an hour had passed with no relief in sight-those people should have been taken off the plane. All of the southwest U.S. is sweltering under these temps. The airlines had better put some protocols in place to prevent this from happening ever again. Flying just keeps getting worse and worse.
Clearly Carnival has problems. Fights aboard, drug issues, trip cancellations, breakdowns etc. Perhaps its worthwhile to consider MSC in the same price category.
Update... Carnival Pride will arrive in Dover Monday morning for a revised 6 day itinerary. A big shout out to the amazing staff on the Pride who have been tirelessly working to get everyone back home safe and keep us B2B cruisers informed and entertained with special performances from great talent like Marcus Anthony and Donna Ramsdale.
I was supposed to be on Carnival Pride right now! Broke my ankle/had surgery and cancelled 2 weeks ago. Still in the fb group, it’s a mess!! Everyone getting conflicting info regarding per diems/reimbursements/carnival credit, waiting for updates, checking travel insurance, hotel price gouging in Dover, rail strikes from Dover to London. So crazy! Latest, anticipating Dover departure to complete last 1/2 of itinerary.
Planes do have A/C on the ground that can be run from the engines or the APU (aux power unit) in the tail. It could of been off to save fuel, or not working. A four hour delay on the tarmac with A/C on may use enough fuel to require refueling before takeoff. At the gate the plane is usually powered off, so would not have A/C, so the only A/C in that case may be piped in from the terminal.
The Pride has had issues like this for years!! Way back in 2018 it was late for our boarding in Baltimore because it had to limp up the eastern seaboard due to a propulsion issues then!! I feel so sorry 😔 for those stuck over there in Europe!! Both on the ship and in hotels with the plans cancelled...
The problem with people stuck in an airplane is that if they let them back to the airport, after a certain amount of delay, they are eligible to compensation, but if they are stuck in the plane, it just count as a long flight and there is no compensation. The airlines will let people bake in a plane instead of paying compensation Greed is the culprit!
I can’t believe that from Delta! Shame on the pi,it’s allowing this ! The passengers should of said Open the cabin door now! I can’t imagine this ! I’m a nurse and I would of stop and said open the door now or t he people who die will be a lot worse than the heat! LAWSIUT! Big time!
Sounds like bad management with Delta leaving those passengers on board that long. It's bad enough being stuck on the tarmac for 15 minutes, but 4 hours? I'd hate it. How to turn off people from flying!!! Thanks for your updates, Don. We hope we can get into Bar Harbor for our upcoming New England/Canada cruise starting on 9th September. Are you sure the Carnival Pride had to miss a Swiss port (they don't have any...it's land locked)...I think you must have meant Sweden.
Don, Switzerland is surrounded by the Alps and is in the center of Europe. It’s not in the Baltic. Nor does it have any open-water ports. Except for lakes, it’s landlocked. I think the country you were talking about was Sweden, which is in the Baltic.
Carnival refunded 100 % also 100% FCC. They also are comping passengers for meals , rooms and flight changes, for the ones in Dover. They are also covering flight changes for those stranded on the ship.
They are indeed covering but as a reimbursement, which, according to the Facebook group for the British isles cruise, is a huge or for some unattainable financial burden. It’s thought provoking.
I think that was the ship that Cruise News Today was saying was going to stay in the port that they went to until the issue is fixed. And they have notified the passengers for the next cruise that their cruise is cancelled.
Don, I am forced to tell you that you were wrong about the airplane and lack of a/c. Modern airliners have an Auxiliary Power Unit commonly referred to as the APC. The APC is a small jet engine located in the tail of the aircraft that provides power to the aircraft when there are no engines running. The APC provides lighting, a/c etc. The engines when running will provide the power to do the same. Why there was no a/c is a question to be asked of the flight crew. A/C should have been available either via the main engines or the APC.
Carnival's on-board customer service is horrible. 1 hour wait on day one and then had to go back because of the wrong sail pass at the cabin door. Then waited another 45 minutes. That was fun. They were training new reps onboard. Getting off was a breeze with passports. Non passports line was crazy long. Felt like I had a fast pass at Disney.
We spent a good length of time in "Hotlanta" sitting on the tarmac twice. Once for repairs - (they ended up putting us on a different plane), and once on the taxiway where we were like 30th in line. We realized how the city got its nickname! 😅
On aircraft: On ground, the APU would be running on the tarmac and this provides air conditioning on plane. And if it weren't running, it would not allow aircraft to start it engines and flight would have been cancelled because not much use if the plane can't start its engines. If the APU was running but not able to keep up with heat, it would be different story, but the inside of aircraft would still be much cooler than outside of aircrtaft. And if people were really suffering, the pilots could have started one engine to provide much more air conditioning capability. (unless this is a 787 where air conditioning is traditional machines not related to aircraft). In traditional bleed air system, the air from outside is pressurized as it passes through engine core and becomes very hot. Part of engine core air is then "bled" to high pressure ducts leading to fuselage. A heat exchanger inside airctraft pulls in unpressurized outside air to cool the pressurized very hot bleed air. When that bleed air is then expanded to cabin pressure, its temperature drops and due to much heat having been remove while compressed, the uncompressed version ends up much cooler than the air that was sucked in by engine. (or APU). (Of you look at aircrtaft belly near wings, you will see a "trap door" that is usually open on ground with warning of very hot air coming out, and that is the air that was sucked in a bit forward on fuselage and passed through heat exchanger and dumped back to the outside. Varying the amount of cooling at that stage varies how much cooling is done and the "air cylcling" machine can also use that heat to heat the aircraft. If the amout of cooling was inadequate, it might not have retained normal 20° temperature inside aircraft, but doubtfull it would have been deadly since it would have still provided much cooling.
Quite a few years ago I was flying Delta from Aruba, after a cruise, to Miami. Of course it was super hot in Aruba. We boarded the full flight and taxied away from the gate. And stoped still. Turned out the control tower was in curaçao and they had gone to lunch! The pilots turned the plane so the port side was to windward and opened the main door to let the breeze in. I remember thinking at any moment I was going to tear off my seatbelt and run screaming up the aisle in a panic. But, since nobody else did, I decided I could tough it out, too. After about 45 minutes they buttoned everything up and we were airborne. 3 hours in Nevada must have been hell!
Airline should be held accountable. If you leave a animal in a car you can go to jail. We are talking about hundreds of people in a bad situation. Shame on delta
What is Delta Airlines doing many people with heart conditions could’ve died 80 is too hot why didn’t they call for emergency help and let people off the plane ? This story is unreal
I'm sorry If I were on that flight, That would have been the day I commented a crime and opened the door... Why would the piolets not turn that around as soon as the flight attendants said something about the extreme heat shame on Delta...
They don’t accept pets in extremely hot weather. They also have to limit cargo weight due to the heat. The heat affects takeoff and so they sometimes have to limit the weight.
Don really knows how to post stories that makes a person NOT want to travel. I don''t know the entire story of the Delta debacle but there are laws they must deplane after a certain time and it is not 4 hours. The lawsuits are lining up.
You know, they break car windows when kids or pets are found inside them in the summertime...and arrest the owner of the car! Why wasn't someone arrested for 4 hours in an airplane with no A/C!!!????
We are on the Pride, stuck because immigration won’t let us run around Kiel and Carnival doesn’t want us in the commercial port or away from the ship if they suddenly find they can get underway. We are still offloading the last of the charter flight people tomorrow and are down to 700 people on board as of Friday at 6 pm. If you read a google translate version of the news from the Kiel paper it says we ran aground, which we did not as we were in the regular shipping lane. The motor in one of the azipods ate itself, so here we are. The overall mood is pretty relaxed, all the angry people got off the ship yesterday. Frankie sounds like he took a nap. You can go to guest services and ask everyday questions again. Carnival announced they are doing an abbreviated British isles cruise following this unexpectedly extended Baltic cruise and that cruise has already sold out. Of course we are still parked up in Germany so….? A mostly empty cruise ship is a delight, let me tell you!
Don facial recognition is great in “theory”. You might want to look at the downside. The “downside” can happen to anyone. Facial recognition is not 100% guaranteed or accurate. Just beware.
This airline situation is ridiculous. This is no different from leaving a child or a pet locked in a car. No air and no way to leave. This is criminal. Period.
to be fair. The pilot and crew were also stuck in the same temperatures
the government allows it so the airlines are taking full advantage.
100%!
I was stuck in a plane on a runway for 4+ hours many years ago, and a portable air conditioning unit was brought out and attached to the plane.
. It does not make it fair...it's f'n criminal
Isn’t there a “law” stating passengers cannot be held on a plane longer than 3 hours for domestic and 4 hours for overseas flights? Someone needs to contact a lawyer for clarification and possibly a lawsuit, if they haven’t already done so! What they went through was cruel and in my opinion unconscionable!
Su Dorothy..you sound like a little high school kid crying that you're spending too long in a classroom
Once again, it's Sweeden, not Switzerland. We don't have any sea access here in Switzerland 🙂
I was wondering about that.
Yup, haha Don's slipping lol
@@corinnemcleod1804 Don is tired! I hate to move! We can give him a pass.
Don, did you mean Sweden? Switzerland is land locked.
Why you you be surprised? He never edits his content and butchers the English language
I’m afraid I would have gone hysterical right before I passed out.
I’m not surprised the Carnival Pride didn’t make it to Switzerland.
😂
Me neither 😂
I didn't know Switzerland had any ports. LOL
Yes they do. There a ski lifts right from the port 😂
Delta - no excuse. Either get the plane back to the gate or get a stairway up to the plane and get them off. You deserve to be sued big time for this. Even if no one died there will be lots of heat related injuries.
Let me get legalistic here. The airline was on a tarmac….not in the air. Not returning to the gate and disembarking was “false imprisonment”. Anyone in the criminal justice system knows that event is one to avoid at all costs. Second, this should constitute reckless endangerment charges against who ever denied disembarkation. Third….if there were children onboard, addition child protection laws were violated. Until passengers and the media aggressively pursue this through legislation and civil lawsuit….what has the airline to loose? Everyone of these passengers, and crew, need to begin a class action suit. There were real and severe consequences to this malfeasance by the airline.
Read your plane ticket fine print.
Also probable elder abuse. The airline had a duty of care and they were more than negligent.
The Las Vegas info, is simply unbelievable. As travelers, we have to be ready for the known, the anticipated, and the unimaginable. We know to take snacks, water, etc. However, even the most seasoned traveler might not have been ready for a four hour standstill in 111° temps. Thanks for the update ❤
Does anyone hear Lawsuits coming Delta’s way? I would sure think so endangering the lives of trapped passengers in that way. Some people might have died, fortunately no one did - this time.
Hopefully this Delta thing gets the ball rolling on reforms - no one should ever be stuck in a plain with no AC for that long
Hi Don, We're on the pride in Kiel...we will not be heading to Dover for the foreseeable future. Parts had to be ordered and are on the way. We will be moving from the cruise terminal to a cargo terminal tonight around midnight and all remaining passengers onboard will not be allowed to leave the ship for the remainder of our stay in Kiel....also the port missed was Gothenburg, Sweden.
I fly Delta all the time. Can't believe that 4 hrs is acceptable by the FFA.
We live in Henderson, Nevada next door to Las Vegas, Nevada and Harry Reid International Airport and I feel for the passengers on that plane. It’s been unusually hot this summer. I’m not 100% sure why this aircraft was delayed so long, but I can tell you that when it gets above 110+ here ATC requires further distances between planes. Hot air is less dense, something like that. Love the channel.
My brother lives in Henderson near a water park or theme park of some sort.
@@bronzefox9035 Yes that’s on the east side of Henderson. We are west near Reid International Airport. 😎
I know what you mean about no a/c until the plane starts. I used to fly between Dallas and Houston every week but fortunately never had a long delay. But it definitely gets hot. I can’t imagine why the crew didn’t offload passengers after an hour. Seems like common sense is very uncommon these days. And they tell us crews priority is supposed to be passenger safety-guess not!!
We were on the same flight (DL555 LAS-ATL) two weeks before when it was 101F in LAS. The AC did not work on the taxi out, it was hot and people were complaining. I don’t think this is an isolated incident. DL seems to have mtce pblms with their 757 fleet. P.S. It also took us 13 1/2 hrs to get ATL-LAS on a Delta 757 on the trip out due to a mtce divert to MEM!
Don, please explain to me how the Carnival Pride gets to land locked Switzerland 🇨🇭!!!???
Same thing happened to me in Las Vegas two decade’s ago. Some things never seem to change.
This is the second time you have confused Switzerland, a landlocked country, with Sweden, a country along the Baltic. Please lol at a map of Europe.
Texas prisons get up to 130°F with no relief available. For some reason our governor thinks that that’s OK.
Ugh that is terrible for those poor passengers AND the airline staff. Inexcusable! Hope everyone is all right now. ❤❤
We just spent over 7 hours on a Delta flight from JFK to Atlanta. Yup...2 hour flight time, but 7 hours from boarding in JFK to deplaning at ATL. Boarded at 11 a.m. and sat on the runway for 2 1/2 hours before returning to the gate and waiting for another 2 hours. One passenger got confrontational and demanded to be let off. He voluntarily deplaned while we waited at the gate. Needless to say, this is how in-flight incidents start. Finally taxied back out and got into the air almost 5 hours late. OK, we got there safely, but c'mon...this is getting crazy. We didn't get off the plane until 6:15 p.m. Then connecting flight was delayed another 2 hours while they waited for those pilots to arrive on an inbound flight...chaos much? I will say the flight crews were professional and kept us informed. Remember, it isn't their idea to endure these delays. I'm sure this isn't any fun for flight crews either.
I was stuck in a plane on a runway for 4+ hours many years ago, and a portable air conditioning unit was brought out and attached to the plane. I wonder why something like that couldn't have been done.
Maybe they were already in use by other planes? Just a guess. I also suppose they don't keep many of those units around, though perhaps now they will order more of them. The whole thing stinks of lack of common sense on the part of the crew and the airport management.
It’s hard to take off with that attached to plane!!
Regarding Bar Harbor. The residents have said no to cruise ships. Like everything else in life, no means NO.
Currently in Germany on the Carnival Pride which had the issue . The missed port was Gothenburg Sweden... not Switzerland
I love Delta, but this was just unacceptable! Heatstroke is very dangerous! I can imagine the lawsuits behind this chaos!
Shame on Delta for allowing that situation to escalate. So much negligence. Putting peoples health in jeopardy.
No heatwave in the UK. As usual it's cold, raining, and miserable.
I smell a lawsuit being filed against Delta on that one
Could have died on that plane. Delta needs to be held accountable.
Which port in Switzerland did the Carnival Pride have to skip? You seem to be reporting more and more cruise ships going to Switzerland and I am curious of the route and which ports are becoming popular? Does it go to Zurichsee or Lake Lucerne? or all the way to the lake at Geneve?
Did they build and underground canal from Germany down to Switzerland? 🙂
AIS now reports that the ship was moved from the western side of port starting at 21:10 UTC (23:10 local time) to a cruise dock on eastern side of bay and it took about 1 hour to do the move. The skip first pulled out backwards of port for quite some distance and then forwards to the new dock. Don't have enough access to know if it moved under its own power or not.
I wondered the same, I’ve been to Switzerland, I never found an ocean
He's a dummy, Sweden , not Switzerland.
Cruise from Switzerland to Dover UK? Interesting Hmmmm
I'm currently on the ship in question, we missed Githenburg Sweden....not Switzerland.
Sorry, meant Gothenburg...got up early to get on charter flight from Germany
I think once the door is closed and the plane pulls away from the terminal it counts as an on time departure. This happened once to on a flight for about an hour and not as hot. Also if it gets to hot planes can be grounded for high temperatures
Carnival Pride has to skip port in Switzerland (Don at 0:42). Hmm, I think I see the problem :)
🤦🏼♀️ Sweden, Don...
So sad about the pride. We just cruised on the Pride from June 9-30 and no problems then.
Vegas is horribly hot in late July. We can't even go outside until about midnight. I don't understand how this could have been allowed. So dangerous!
July 9 - 30th? we the 20th today, you mean June right?
@@ellem2293 yes, thank you so much for catching it.
Carnival; the Gift that keeps on giving.
I would have been one of those people carried out on a stretcher-IF I hadn’t died. I cannot handle hot temperatures for any length of time (an hour at best) without getting ill. I am a “young” senior citizen-the older I get, the less able I am able to tolerate heat. I can see the lawsuits against Delta piling up already. This was just a common sense thing-an hour had passed with no relief in sight-those people should have been taken off the plane. All of the southwest U.S. is sweltering under these temps. The airlines had better put some protocols in place to prevent this from happening ever again. Flying just keeps getting worse and worse.
Why no A/C?
One thing I have learned never to take a flight the same day as your cruise. always go a day early.
John Heald already announced the cancellation of the next cruise on the Pride.
Clearly Carnival has problems. Fights aboard, drug issues, trip cancellations, breakdowns etc. Perhaps its worthwhile to consider MSC in the same price category.
You mentioned the Carnival Pride was in Switzerland. Isn't that nation landlocked? Do cruises go there. Do you mean Sweden?
Jay from The Ship Life is supposed to be on the Pride and he is stuck in England still waiting for word from Carnival.
Agree - dangerous situation. Could have hurt people.
Update... Carnival Pride will arrive in Dover Monday morning for a revised 6 day itinerary. A big shout out to the amazing staff on the Pride who have been tirelessly working to get everyone back home safe and keep us B2B cruisers informed and entertained with special performances from great talent like Marcus Anthony and Donna Ramsdale.
They should have gotten a bus out there and taken the people to the terminal. There will be law suits
I was supposed to be on Carnival Pride right now! Broke my ankle/had surgery and cancelled 2 weeks ago. Still in the fb group, it’s a mess!! Everyone getting conflicting info regarding per diems/reimbursements/carnival credit, waiting for updates, checking travel insurance, hotel price gouging in Dover, rail strikes from Dover to London. So crazy! Latest, anticipating Dover departure to complete last 1/2 of itinerary.
Carnival Pride caught in Switzerland?
Currently on the ship as well..yeah i think he did take a well deserved nap. Dwl
Planes do have A/C on the ground that can be run from the engines or the APU (aux power unit) in the tail. It could of been off to save fuel, or not working. A four hour delay on the tarmac with A/C on may use enough fuel to require refueling before takeoff. At the gate the plane is usually powered off, so would not have A/C, so the only A/C in that case may be piped in from the terminal.
The Pride has had issues like this for years!! Way back in 2018 it was late for our boarding in Baltimore because it had to limp up the eastern seaboard due to a propulsion issues then!! I feel so sorry 😔 for those stuck over there in Europe!! Both on the ship and in hotels with the plans cancelled...
Great update as always… out of curiosity, where is the cruise port you talked about in Switzerland that the Carnival Pride missed? Thanks, James
Since Switzerland is landlocked, I think it might be Sweden!
@@23oakhill I figured that was the case 😅😎
The problem with people stuck in an airplane is that if they let them back to the airport, after a certain amount of delay, they are eligible to compensation, but if they are stuck in the plane, it just count as a long flight and there is no compensation. The airlines will let people bake in a plane instead of paying compensation Greed is the culprit!
That is the bottom line!
I hope Delta is forced to compensate all of the people on that flight, even if by lawsuit. That should be illegal. Someone could have died.
I can guarantee I would have been off that plane quicker than 4 hrs. I may have been in handcuffs, but I would have been off.
That’s awful about Delta
That's madness to have these people in that tin can so long
Sardine can!
I can’t believe that from Delta! Shame on the pi,it’s allowing this ! The passengers should of said Open the cabin door now! I can’t imagine this ! I’m a nurse and I would of stop and said open the door now or t he people who die will be a lot worse than the heat! LAWSIUT! Big time!
Another good one Don! Great advice and info ,Bob, UK.🚢👍
Switzerland ?????
I smell a lawsuit against that airline!
I see Dlta having a lawsuit in their future.
If you look at carnival the most popular question is how old is the ship
The Carnival Pride is canceling the next two cruises in is going into drydock to fix the engine problems
Sounds like bad management with Delta leaving those passengers on board that long. It's bad enough being stuck on the tarmac for 15 minutes, but 4 hours? I'd hate it. How to turn off people from flying!!! Thanks for your updates, Don. We hope we can get into Bar Harbor for our upcoming New England/Canada cruise starting on 9th September. Are you sure the Carnival Pride had to miss a Swiss port (they don't have any...it's land locked)...I think you must have meant Sweden.
Don, Switzerland is surrounded by the Alps and is in the center of Europe. It’s not in the Baltic. Nor does it have any open-water ports. Except for lakes, it’s landlocked. I think the country you were talking about was Sweden, which is in the Baltic.
Carnival refunded 100 % also 100% FCC.
They also are comping passengers for meals , rooms and flight changes, for the ones in Dover.
They are also covering flight changes for those stranded on the ship.
They are indeed covering but as a reimbursement, which, according to the Facebook group for the British isles cruise, is a huge or for some unattainable financial burden. It’s thought provoking.
Delta should’ve done some thing at lot lot lot earlier than that
I think that was the ship that Cruise News Today was saying was going to stay in the port that they went to until the issue is fixed. And they have notified the passengers for the next cruise that their cruise is cancelled.
The Shiplife was notified the sailing on the 21st was canceled, he is supposed to be on the next sailing.
How does a cruise ship get stuck in a land locked country?
Dwl... I'm on the ship and trust me Switzerland was not on the itinerary
I think all the passengers should file a lawsuit against Delta!
They should have returned to the gate even if had to be towed.
Responsibility? Who in government ensures the safety in airlines and cruise ships? We only hear about them after tragedies.
Don, I am forced to tell you that you were wrong about the airplane and lack of a/c. Modern airliners have an Auxiliary Power Unit commonly referred to as the APC. The APC is a small jet engine located in the tail of the aircraft that provides power to the aircraft when there are no engines running. The APC provides lighting, a/c etc. The engines when running will provide the power to do the same. Why there was no a/c is a question to be asked of the flight crew. A/C should have been available either via the main engines or the APC.
Carnival's on-board customer service is horrible. 1 hour wait on day one and then had to go back because of the wrong sail pass at the cabin door. Then waited another 45 minutes. That was fun. They were training new reps onboard. Getting off was a breeze with passports. Non passports line was crazy long. Felt like I had a fast pass at Disney.
We spent a good length of time in "Hotlanta" sitting on the tarmac twice. Once for repairs - (they ended up putting us on a different plane), and once on the taxiway where we were like 30th in line. We realized how the city got its nickname! 😅
Delta...appears that situation violates airline passenger rights. Who is at fault, Delta or the ATC?
Don have you ever done a video on Travel Insurance options?
Switzerland is land locked, broadway shows take place on broadway, not Vegas
On aircraft: On ground, the APU would be running on the tarmac and this provides air conditioning on plane. And if it weren't running, it would not allow aircraft to start it engines and flight would have been cancelled because not much use if the plane can't start its engines. If the APU was running but not able to keep up with heat, it would be different story, but the inside of aircraft would still be much cooler than outside of aircrtaft. And if people were really suffering, the pilots could have started one engine to provide much more air conditioning capability. (unless this is a 787 where air conditioning is traditional machines not related to aircraft).
In traditional bleed air system, the air from outside is pressurized as it passes through engine core and becomes very hot. Part of engine core air is then "bled" to high pressure ducts leading to fuselage. A heat exchanger inside airctraft pulls in unpressurized outside air to cool the pressurized very hot bleed air. When that bleed air is then expanded to cabin pressure, its temperature drops and due to much heat having been remove while compressed, the uncompressed version ends up much cooler than the air that was sucked in by engine. (or APU).
(Of you look at aircrtaft belly near wings, you will see a "trap door" that is usually open on ground with warning of very hot air coming out, and that is the air that was sucked in a bit forward on fuselage and passed through heat exchanger and dumped back to the outside. Varying the amount of cooling at that stage varies how much cooling is done and the "air cylcling" machine can also use that heat to heat the aircraft.
If the amout of cooling was inadequate, it might not have retained normal 20° temperature inside aircraft, but doubtfull it would have been deadly since it would have still provided much cooling.
111F, wow, everybody was well cooked!
Why didn't they let them off the damn plane????!
Sweden I believe was where the pride was headed. They have already cx the next sailing on the Pride.
The airlines need to do better in getting flights out on time and stop canceling flights and/or changing flights itineraries.
Quite a few years ago I was flying Delta from Aruba, after a cruise, to Miami. Of course it was super hot in Aruba. We boarded the full flight and taxied away from the gate. And stoped still. Turned out the control tower was in curaçao and they had gone to lunch!
The pilots turned the plane so the port side was to windward and opened the main door to let the breeze in. I remember thinking at any moment I was going to tear off my seatbelt and run screaming up the aisle in a panic. But, since nobody else did, I decided I could tough it out, too. After about 45 minutes they buttoned everything up and we were airborne. 3 hours in Nevada must have been hell!
It’s delayed
Jay from the ship life was supposed to be on that sailing
Could the airline not allow the flight attendendents to give out ice or ice water?
I’d be busting that emergency exit open. No shits given if it costs the airline $75,000.
Airline should be held accountable. If you leave a animal in a car you can go to jail. We are talking about hundreds of people in a bad situation. Shame on delta
What is Delta Airlines doing many people with heart conditions could’ve died
80 is too hot why didn’t they call for emergency help and let people off the plane ?
This story is unreal
Don... Sometimes your mic levels are rather low and hard to hear even at high volume
I'm sorry If I were on that flight, That would have been the day I commented a crime and opened the door... Why would the piolets not turn that around as soon as the flight attendants said something about the extreme heat shame on Delta...
I hope there were no pets on the plane or in the hold
They don’t accept pets in extremely hot weather. They also have to limit cargo weight due to the heat. The heat affects takeoff and so they sometimes have to limit the weight.
Don really knows how to post stories that makes a person NOT want to travel. I don''t know the entire story of the Delta debacle but there are laws they must deplane after a certain time and it is not 4 hours. The lawsuits are lining up.
You know, they break car windows when kids or pets are found inside them in the summertime...and arrest the owner of the car! Why wasn't someone arrested for 4 hours in an airplane with no A/C!!!????
We are on the Pride, stuck because immigration won’t let us run around Kiel and Carnival doesn’t want us in the commercial port or away from the ship if they suddenly find they can get underway. We are still offloading the last of the charter flight people tomorrow and are down to 700 people on board as of Friday at 6 pm. If you read a google translate version of the news from the Kiel paper it says we ran aground, which we did not as we were in the regular shipping lane. The motor in one of the azipods ate itself, so here we are. The overall mood is pretty relaxed, all the angry people got off the ship yesterday. Frankie sounds like he took a nap. You can go to guest services and ask everyday questions again. Carnival announced they are doing an abbreviated British isles cruise following this unexpectedly extended Baltic cruise and that cruise has already sold out. Of course we are still parked up in Germany so….? A mostly empty cruise ship is a delight, let me tell you!
How does a cruise get to port in Switzerland ? ? it is in the middlel of Europe, land locked.
volume still too low
Port in Switzerland?
Don facial recognition is great in “theory”. You might want to look at the downside. The “downside” can happen to anyone. Facial recognition is not 100% guaranteed or accurate. Just beware.
Hi Don - you picked the wrong european country regarding Carnival Pride "had to skip a port in Sweden not in Schwitzerland" :-)