All New 2022 Royal Alloy GP300S Review by Robot
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2022
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Here in the UK we have had these for a few years now. I was contemplating buying one, after the two Vespa GTS 300's I have owned. Back in the day I have owned a Lambretta SX 150 and after that a GP 200. The nostalgia is strong with me, I was part of the scooter scene back in the early seventies. The fashion, the night life and run outs. We have a saying, scootering, it's a way of life. It still is for me. Anyway, I didn't buy the Royal Alloy for a number of reasons. I tour with my GTS and I need storage space. I looked at the fold down rack and a top case as you call them in America but I still hadn't got the underseat space. When my wife and I tried sitting on one there didn't seem to be too much space regarding the seat, we are average size people. The final thing is that the Royal Alloy look's great new but after a couple of years I have seen a few rough ones. I may be wrong but I think they need a lot more love and care than a Vespa. After all the Vespa exhausts and alloy casings can look shabbie pretty quickly and take some looking after to stay new looking but not like some of the Royal Alloys I have seen. I haven't had the rust problems with the three Vespa's I have owned that some have, a took delivery of a new GTS HPE last month. So, whatever you choose ride safe and have a great time.
Really would like to buy a Royal Alloy, the styling is really good. But with all the research I'm doing, everything directs me to a Vespa GTS 300, even a RA dealer said to go for a Vespa.
@@ajb08 After living with my Vespa GTS 300 HPE for a year now I glad I stuck with Vespa. I have just had it serviced as I have done 6,000 miles now. The reason for this is that I have run it a lot in winter this year due to high fuel prices, I get a genuine 85mpg.
Same here put off with all the problems with these RA & there support when it comes to sorting out issues with these scooters sound like there built on cheep & sold for stupid money for a scooter. But I wont buy a gts just doesn't cut it for me the styling is naff & well over priced
Great prog, i have the tg300 and i love it. the suspension is way improved from my previous 2018 gp200.
Interesting review of the GP300. Over here in the UK I have a Vespa PX which I use for the shorter rides and have a Royal Alloy GP200 for the longer rides.
I’ve owned the GP for 3 years and apart from a few minor faults it’s been a brilliant scooter. Mine are also kept away from the dreaded winter salt which tends to eat scooters alive😬
Awesome run down on a good looking scoot
Your knowledge is always very impressive.
The Scomadi 300 Finally Here 💪✊✌️
Great video Robot! I like that the RA has a OBD2 port connection and you do not need a special scanner to diagnose the scooter. This point makes it awesome for scooterist that repair their own scooter and scooterist that might not have the complete knowledge but want to know what is going on with their scooter when it acts up. I wish Vespa would do this with the modern Vespas.
Yes yes yes it's finally here thanks for sharing
I absolutely love my GP 300. It pulls like a train and has very good handling.
This video made me want one.
Great honest review that put me off buying one. Cheers.
It looks good, not new here in U.K. and I’ve seen a couple of shoddy looking ones about so they do take and need a little tlc to be kept looking nice. Just lack of luggage space is a nuisance. Thank you for the vid.
no way you guys are down the street!! how cool is that, im definitely checking u guys out soon. I need either this scooter or a vespa gts 300
Looks so nice!
Love the styling.. I'm interested to see how they hold up.
Absolutely beautiful! Much nicer looking than the Vespa and much better value for money. Also you suggested the narrower tyres limited the top speed, but that’s not the case. The fuel range only relates to the tank size and RA kept that compact to fit in to the beautiful body shape.
Excellent video :)
The GTS 300 needs a makeover, or at least a classically styled body to run in a parallel with the modern iteration. Something akin to the SS180 to compete with Royal Alloy's "Lambretta".
Yes I agree 100% the Royal alloys look amazing and if the were produced in Italy with more importantly parts backup I would buy one in a heartbeat. Its such a pity the modern vespa's just don't have that retro look. In saying all this I am buying a gts 300 soon because of hand injury and my size the auto is just better suited to me. The Lambretta effort out now is just horrible and embarrassing compared to the RA
@@Scale_Slotcars_Latvia did you ever get your RA ?
Awesome video and always, and I couldn't agree with you more regards the politics of where are scooters come from!
Great job with video
Great review, as always. It's obvious you personally prefer Vespas but are able to review the RA impartially. I prefer the styling of the RA since I always liked the looks of the Lambretta over the Vespa. And the original reason for the Vespa rear styling (side mounted motor) doesn't even exist anymore. But for the relatively small price difference I think I'd go with the Vespa for the better resale value, bigger dealer network, and the security of knowing they aren't going to go out of business and leave me with an orphan. BTW, those passenger pegs appear to be the same as on my Kymco 150 Like, if so I found that they tend to rattle, especially at low speeds away from a stop.
Interesting take on this, Robot. Like the overall look, but besides to potential additional maintenance headaches vis-a-vis your garden-variety Vespa GTS, one *big* sticking pointer me is the floorboard height, which reminds me of the high floorboards of NIU's electric scooters (which I'm intimately familiar with, by way of Revel's NYC scooter-share program). That height drives me more than a little nuts on Revel's scoots, but since I rent the tings by the minute, I can deal; buy something like that to take home? Maybe not. But, more scoots to choose from, rather than less, is almost always a Good Thing.
Great review thank you from the UK 🛵🛵👍
I think this is a better motor than the HPE. I feel like the HPE's boost in performance is negated by it's oil consumption and increased maintenance requirements. This is coming from an HPE owner.
Wow really cool one 👌
Good to know how this stack up against the Vespa 300 range.
Have decided to get into the scooter scene here in the UK, have narrowed it down to the Vespa GTS 300 or the Royal Alloy 300. The styling of the RA is awesome but I am reading so much of problems with getting parts and with warranty claims etc. The biggest problem with them seems to be the digital display especially the fuel gauge & build quality. But like I say its a great looking scooter. Its tough to decide, be interesting to see how you get on with repairs etc to them. I was even advised by a RA dealer to go for a Vespa GTS 300....read so much positivity about the Vespa and after watching your videos which are amazing it looks like it will have to be a Vespa. Now what model ? Keep the awesome videos coming.
Had mine 2&1/2 years has scorpion ceramic exhaust with Titanium link pipe, PM Tuning piggy pack ecu, bitubo front suspension and new Michelin pure power tyres. Had to remove centre stand and fit R&G exhaust slider because of scraping... Next upgrade is rear suspension when I can find or rework something. Then malosi engine & gear box internals at end of summer service.
Sits at 90mph (gps) and two up with my boy last night hit 74mph (gps)...
Good scooter
Only issue was a crap batch of fuses...
amazing scooter cool 👍
Thank you for the great videos, Robot! I'm a new rider and have learned so much from your videos. Really appreciate you sharing your wealth of knowledge. I hope to buy a Vespa 300 GTS Supertech, but I'm 5'3". so need to see if I can handle the inseam/weight aspects. Thanks again!
as an owner, when the fuel gauge starts flashing the last bar, you can top up ~6.5L of fuel. which means a top up every ~200km
Great job, Robot. You’ve convinced me not to buy one as a replacement for my GTS 250 As good looking as it is, I can’t see that I would buy one over the new Vespa GTS. The price spread is insufficient to compensate for the deficiencies mentioned as compared to the Vespa. Increased labor charges on routine maintenance will likely eliminate the price advantage within a few years years at most.
But it does look good.
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This looks very stylish and appears to be selling well in the UK. However, I think it’s popularity is almost entirely due to 1960s nostalgia. I guess most will be used very sparingly, unlike many Vespas, which are more practical because of the under seat storage,and much more likely to get hard use.
Soon as you get Various colors I'll grab one especially that the Cowls can be removed accident wise that's the plus over the Vespa 🧐✌️
Thank you again for awesome video! Mr. Robot But I think not worth it buying this scooter because tires to small!
I think I know what I'm upgrading from my sprint 150 now
Thanks for the Video,it pretty much stopped me wanting one.The looks for me are superior to the GTS's but the lack of storage and potential increase labour costs make it unfeasable for me.
Hey, whatbout consumption? I'm taking all pros and cons between this and the GP125...not a lot of data about that.
bv350的速度表是用后轮转动来传输的吗
Some Thais lower the RL, and it gives it a more classic look, IMO. The original lammy sits low.
Looks nice from the outside but when you start digging you see mistakes that you don’t want them on your scooter I’ll give it 6/10
Aftermarket Forks and It's Gonna Handle Way Better That The Vespa Landing Gear Single Front Suspension A Track Fact🧐
I'M BUYING THE GP 300S
I was really interested in the GP. In the pre-production pictures it had a really nice SX-style headset. But the edgy one they were using in the regular production is not half as nice. I will rather go for the TG, as I always fancied the Series II as well as the SX.
I'm going for a TG300 after the year for summer 23 yeehaaa...
I'd live both signals hooked up
Further reading on about the GP300 S indicates they lacking grease in the stearing bearings. Snd centrt stand, the fuel injector controller is smashed up toward the battery, it needs a long front mufflap to shield the air filter, side mirrors are too narrow, some of the wiring is cheap and electrical connectors are cheap.
I have a very small dealer near my home. He's been in business selling Genuine Scooters.
I may order a GT300S IF we have a sit down and itemize what I want to correct these issues.
If the cheap fuses, connectors ans the above are fixable as fealer prep, I may pull the trigger.
He has never delivered a Royal Alloy.
Hallo 👋 the luggagewrag Look like a 946 wrag 2 me 😉
the RA GP and (especially) TG models are imo streets ahead of the Vespa GTS in terms of looking like 'real' old school scooters.
Lookalike GP front end, SX back end.
It's all about the retail price compared to the Vespa. In Britain, these scooters are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than the equivalent Vespa, so you pays your money and...
...you know the rest...
Hi
Is it normal for the gp300 to turn on a lot of fans in traffic?
My TG300 does the same , fan comes on whenever the scoot comes to a stop , not had any overheating problems with mine working this way
The TG version based on the series 2 Lambretta looks a lot better
Yip the TG looks awesome, I'm purchasing one early next year 2023.
1400 dollars cheaper than the Vespa is a fortune to some people.
The Royal alloys look amazing and if they were produced in Italy with more importantly parts backup I would buy one in a heartbeat. Its such a pity the modern vespa's just don't have that retro look. In saying all this I am buying a gts 300 soon because of a hand injury and my size the auto 300 is just better suited to me. The Lambretta effort out now is just horrible and embarrassing compared to the RA
1st batch from production line are always dodgy. Looks 👌👌
My 2023 GP 300S is dynomite.
Is the engine temperature generally high?
hi again , mine generally sits on 4 bars on the temp gauge
@@uptowndisco2 thanks a lot🌼
Do vespas still have an unconditional lifetime warranty on the transmissions
They’ve never had that.
@@nsoul8469
I worked for a Yamaha, Kawasaki, Vespa dealer that started in business in 1958. I started working there part time evenings and Saturdays January through May slashthe busy season here in the Northeast in 1978.. The owner was teaching me to be a salesman instead of a mechanic, which i was at 2 other Honda/Yamaha shops. But he wanted me to be in sales.. he said I had a lot of product knowledge and I am a likable guy. So he started teaching me, and am I glad he did, I was making way more money selling bikes, and I didn’t get dirty..this man was a professional salesman, he wasn’t just somebody that owns a motorcycle shop. He was in sales and bought a motorcycle shop for fun after he made his millions. I do definitely remember him telling me, to turn all the vespa lookers over to him, because, he said those people are completely different than people that are interested in Yamaha or Kawasaki motorcycles. And I remember him telling me and seeing ads on posters, that they have a 100% lifetime warranty on the transmissions of Vespas..
maybe they dropped that warranty policy over the last 40+ years, but I never forgot that because that’s risky to give a lifetime warranty on something like that..
then again maybe it’s like those television auto warranties that they have every other commercial on television that make you think you’re getting a great warranty, when actually you’re not. A buddy of mine is a BMW convertible lover. He has one of those extended warranty things from television. $155 a month. His driver seat Frame broke, not covered
his power window would not go up and down, not covered
some type of a sensor on his radiator went bad, not covered
his convertible top would not go up and down anymore with a push of a button. Not covered
his automatic transmission selector/shifter that allows you to go from automatic to semi auto mode, not covered..
I would like to hear what Chris Berman has to say about that since he is a commercial rep for that company..
maybe you have to jump through all kinds of hoops like having the dealer change the transmission oil every year and make adjustments to the cable shifter mechanism every year to get the warranty to stay in force…Who knows, but I do remember that Vespa scooters had a lifetime warranty on the transmission back in the 70s
@@Jodyrides If that was the case I’ve never heard or read about it. I’d be extremely surprised if it was true to be honest.
I’ve also been searching online and cannot find any evidence this was ever the case.
@@nsoul8469
then I guess the answer is NO..Vespas do not still have the lifetime warranty on their transmissions.. that’s too bad because I would never have considered a Vespa, but when I heard that warranty, that impressed me to the point where I thought, these things must be pretty damn good for them to give that kind of a warranty..
that dealer that I worked for part time that was a Kawasaki, Yamaha, Vespa dealer, never stocked Vespas. I never saw one come into the service department. I have seen people come in and inquire about getting one, but I never sold one. I never rode one, I’ve only seen maybe 10 of them in my whole life here in western Pennsylvania USA. I actually worked with a guy at my real job, that he and his wife both bought brand new Vespa motorcycles about 2012 or 2014. They were relatively expensive I thought.. anyway that guy rode that thing to work about 6 miles one way through neighborhoods mostly not on the highway for years..
I always felt that the wheels were too small for the potholes we get here around Pittsburgh with the thaw/ freeze cycles we get here in December, and especially in March when the snow is melting, and the roads get craters in them. Lots of truck traffic around a big commercial/industrial city like Pittsburgh to tear up the roads.. that is the reason I never got interested in scooters…
but my best riding friend since high school shocked the hell out of me one day. He had a BMW K 1200 RS. Once he got to know that machine and see how much it is to maintain one at the dealer, he could not wait to get rid of that machine. He put it up for sale, nobody wanted it enough to buy it, but a dealer was willing to take it on trade on a Suzuki Burgman 650 … my friend did not tell me what he was thinking when he made that decision to trade in his BMW on a scooter… I was actually almost yelling at him, what the hell is the matter with you. How are we gonna do 500 mile days with you riding on that toy… boy was I in for a surprise. I was very surprised at how fast that thing was. 650 CC, manual or automatic shifting, enormous under seat storage, two cylinder, water cooled, fuel injected, and the motor wasn’t attached to the swinging arm like a Vespa which is horrible when you consider unsprung weight. It did not even have belt drive. It had a succession of primary and idler gears transferring power from the transmission to the rear wheel.I really liked it
I'm not sure what these costs are compared to the Vespa, but I would rather have the Vespa. Even with Honda, I would buy only Japanese-made.
Is royal alloy a Chinese company?
The 2023 Gp is built in Thailand.
Great unit.
The excessive weird badging kills me.
Somebody needs to 'style' a modern form factor in classic or vintage manner.
You just watched a video where that's exactly what's happened!!!...
@@pwdb1968 No. Modern scooters aren't step through and have a longer wheelbase.
@@clangerbasher All Royal Alloy scooters are step through, also all based on traditional Lambretta styles.
@@pwdb1968 Is stating the blatantly obvious your superpower?
@@clangerbasher You said modern scooters aren't step through!!!!. All Royal Alloy scooters are...
Funny how they hint at a British Union Jack flag on the badges despite them having nothing to do with Britain...
...except the historic scooter scene...
Originally developed by English guys so your wrong!
When did Vespa start making them in China?
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Why do you always compare the Royal alloy to a Lambretta? Why don't you compare the GTS to a PX vespa?
Because it's painfully clear who RA is echoing with their bikes' form factor…which is just fine, generally speaking, although the irony of pushing Lambretta lines with Piaggio underpinnings *might* be a bit on-the-nose for some (like me).
No storage..... that sucks
Not sure why anyone would choose this over a Vespa. Vespas are still rare to see on the streets in Canada so it's not like you'd buy this to be different than all the million Vespas on the road. IMHO It's cool but not as cool as a Vespa for close to the same money.
I think it looks a little better than the Vespa but I still agree with you. Even if these were sold in Canada I'd still prefer a Vespa for parts availability and quality
…from viewing video only, I lean more toward Vespa. 09 250GTS ours is white. It’s a blast. I hope a local shop can get Vespa and Alloy side by side to compare…
Good if you’re disabled and can’t ride a classic Lambretta.
Not a fan. Still smells like Chinesium.
The cooling system is better than vespa the air flow is more than vespa
It seems to be everything what's not vespa us bad motorcycle. The rest no good.only vespa is good motorcycle. 🙌
if its a chinese company, it will be referred to as a knock off....i think .....LOL
A Vespa will last for 20 years. A Royal Alloy will last for 20 months.
I am on my 3rd gts, they are OK but mega expensive to maintain with vespa dealers. The first two developed rust patches. God knows why the exhaust can't be made in stainless steel
Nope, the GTS rusts big time...
Meh for $1000 more I rather buy a real Vespa or Piaggio.
So a Royal Alloy isn’t real but Vespa or Piaggio are ? Interesting…
It looks just worse. It had to be either better or cheaper. It's neither
It looks like a deformed Serveta Jet.
Storage👎
A lambretta for people who don't know how to build lambretta's
God awful thing to try and service and maintain. What an afterthought!
Dude. Thailand is a democracy, just like USA. Ya might want to check that out. As for poorly built bikes, ever had a fresh out of the box Harley? Complete crapshoot without a complete assembly check.
Thailand can hardly be described as a democracy.
@@thesmallerhalf1968 what is its system of government, then? How often have you been there? How well do you know it’s neighbors and their situations? My breath is bated with anticipation, oh fount of knowledge.
@@lukerabin5079 Try a web search. Thailand has a style of constitutional monarchy, underpinned by laws that ensure the military retain much influence. Thailand has a history of military coups when the senior military leaders have decided the elected government is too chaotic or has drifted too far from the ‘right’ path. It is definitely not like the US. And yes I have been there often, for work, and have also visited neighbouring countries.
Slap the camera man! Your describing the instrument panel and the camera is looking at the grips!!!!!!! 🤬
You are clearly biased towards vespa products...
Well, *probably* …but so am I: my ride is essentially a year-round "daily-driver", so it puts up with a lot of stuff for a lot o' miles, so, besides my affinity for Vespa's overall aesthetic-go ahead, change my mind-there's the small matter of a company that's been making the things *continually* since 1946, largely figured out what does and doesn't work, and, in the case of my GTS SuperTech, has sufficiently sorted the details so that I needn't worry (much) about problems…and, if a problem should rear its ugly head, the mothership fixes it on their dime for the first two years of ownership. Oh, yes-I'm sure the the RA is a hella lot of fun to ride when all's running right, but doubtfully more fun than mine. At any rate, it's cool the 300i is finally a "thing" here in the States…the more, the merrier.
@@barrettwbenton Vespa went bankrupt, it was ressurrected later ... and basically you can buy a Taiwanese scooter (not Chinese) for half the price and its just as good. All youre doing is stroking Italians pride
@@blitzmotorscooters1635 keep trolling bro! Love how you delete comments when challenged. Taiwanese scooters are mid grade at best. Glad you make so much money selling them!
@@rodgerwill1042 I dont feel challenged, its just that youre not worth the hassle. Japanese and Piaggio scooters, when contrasted with Taiwanese scooters, are not worth the bang for the buck. Youre paying for a Name and you know it. Atleast we agree the China ones are junk but you actually own a CHinese scooter! Check the VIN on that Rattler pal. Anyway. RIde on dude, I dont hate you... Dont dog Tai brands though, they are all that is keeping this market afloat right now. Not everyone has $6000 to dump into a PCX150, or $9000 to dump on a Vespa. You can buy a Tai for $4500 that will last you 30,000 miles or until you resale it for good money 8 years later. See the argument Im making instead of calling everything Chinese when its clearly not an 'L' VIN
@@rodgerwill1042 Primavera has plastic on it... plastic is better anyway so that its lightweight and cheaper to replace. Paint and Body is expensive
Super creepy dude !!!! WTF !!!!
It's not a good looking scooter. Sorry
Robot your negative comments about China where over the top and unecessary
they were correct.
Chicom sux a big one!!
Best thing they did was quit the Chicom mfg...I would never by commie mfg anything...very nice hooking up with Piaggio stuff