John Forshee was born about 1883 and died in 1974 at Cincinnatus, NY. He was at least a third generation tinsmith as he is using his grandfather's patented tinsmithing tools.
10 years ago I saw this on UA-cam after a rough move in my new living room. Now I’m setting up my tin shop after thinking about John this whole time. Thank you sir for the inspiration.
People here in the UK would take offence at being called a tinker, but I think it is one of the greatest compliments that can be given, to make something from pretty much anything is a God given skill.
People in the UK will take offence at anything . I'm glad my grandparents didn't live to see the downfall and weakness of Britain , led by mercenaries and fops .
I am so happy this showed up on my list. Loved it. My Grandmother was born in 1896 and I learned a great deal from her about life in general. I recently retired as a 4th generation Tool and Die maker.
This kind of people built America in a time when being skilled and doing a honest work was very appreciated. They survived war times and depression and they literally built a country with their hands. Their only gain was at the old age when they could appreciate a peaceful life and little things like gardening. This was their reward. Many of them keep working their trade until the end. Was a time in human history when people really take pride of their trade and not they fortune.
The 'American Dream' has long been vaunted with great meaning and purpose for the nation: discouraging a critical view of the pursuit of wealth and fame; whilst more worthy goals are sidelined. When did perusing the American Dream come into the language and take hold? It's a phrase often applied to American immigrants going back to the 19th century but I suspect the phrase did not come into being and take a hold of the nation till the second have of the 20th century
This was "tinkering" years ago -- a skilled craft whose products were much in demand, and the craftsmen duly compensated. Today, we use the word to mean doing odd jobs during idle time, on various and sundry things. I wish they would have asked him about a "tinker's dam" -- my only complaint. Otherwise, a great video of a very skilled and admirable craftsman, and an insight into our past. Thanks for posting.
Seems like a good man living a good life we all should strive to be like him still doing still being productive glad to come a ross this vid hope this finds you well and working from Dublin ireland
My dad died in 2017..born in 1935, not super old.. but he told me about the rag man and knife sharpener man, and all kinds of older men that had push carts up & down streets in St. Louis Missouri..when he died I feel like some of the old ways died also. This kinda reminds me of him talking to me.
My father is still with us, but i feel you. its like watching him work in his shed. theres something special about this sort of thing that people just overlook.
I love those wonderful hands... I think how many things he handmade in his lifetime. Think of those beautiful everyday useful items he made! The wonder of who uses his work...
There are times that break my heart that the youngsters don't have the time to go to the oldsters to see how it was done and ask the questions. So much knowledge is lost . Once lost it is gone forever.
I saw a video of an Irish travelling tinker when I was in county Mayo doing this sort of stuff by hand. Wonderful to see a whitesmith at work, sad the way of these craftsman died out.
Amazing skills and a remarkable man- he mentions that he is using his father's patterns- actually made by his father so many years before. I remember seeing a programme about a watchmaker- the father of a reasonably well-known English actor. The watchmaker had knowledge and skills that were so extensive and remarkable it was just so awful to think that when he died- all that knowledge and experience would be lost.
Shame he wouldn’t take someone on to train, that’s one of the two reasons these old trades/skills are being lost. The other reason is automation, mass produced things that get thrown away because there no one around can fix them.
I would've like to have heard more in detail the different things that he was doing and techniques he was using as he constructed the piece he was working on.
I would have enjoyed seeing that grand old fella do the double seam on the bottom of the dipper. This should be in the Library Of Congress . Those tools would really make my projects smoother .
4 years later, and I still don't know why you said "get it" in quotation marks. I don't know what significance it holds that you had to make those words a quote.
He said he wouldn't take any help NOW because he's old. He was about 90 when they made this video. Give the guy some slack here. Don't you think he's earned the right to do things the way he likes them, and not to think about how another person would prefer to do things; to tinker for his own joy and entertainment? He said nothing about having taught the craft to others during the years of tinkering when he was not old, did he? There is no information about him or his disciples online, because he died over 40 years ago. So - you just won't know. You don't know if there were other bright-eyed boys standing by him learning the craft when he was 30, 40, 50, 60, do you? Unless you know, don't assume the worst.
Makes me think how I don't want to hear any petty complaints from people living today. These people helped build nations and gave us the opportunity to be our selfish selves.
@@franciestokes7121 Francie I think you are watching a different video . You done have to be a member of the travelling community to be a tinker there's a big difference between two.
you can tinker a robot body, (bots are nearly here!) would be quite a collectors item done in this fashion. (tin man, from the wizard of oz, is the look it would get.)
@@bobvogel5398 I did my apprenticeship as a coachbuilder. I know what it is, what it is worth and more importantly what to do with it. If you know how to use it the cost isn't that bad. You just happened to look in the wrong places maybe it can be found from people who need it gone yesterday.
I like the original coal furnace from 1910 in the basement. By the time this was filmed most of them had been removed or had a retrofit gun style oil burner conversion done. These old guys worked in thier basements alot instead of their garage to work where there was heat in the winter. Very common. What was not common yet was to spend on a fancy heated pole barn.
The shame is - he's using modern techniques and no ancient ones as they would of hand-hammered that. 2x2 to bend metal? I've laughed people out of the shop for that.
10 years ago I saw this on UA-cam after a rough move in my new living room. Now I’m setting up my tin shop after thinking about John this whole time. Thank you sir for the inspiration.
Good on you , I hope it's been successful
Hats off to this Master Craftsman!!
At this old age, his attention to detail, his concentration, his urge for perfection is superb!! commendable!!
He is a National Treasure
Was.
People here in the UK would take offence at being called a tinker, but I think it is one of the greatest compliments that can be given, to make something from pretty much anything is a God given skill.
People in the UK will take offence at anything . I'm glad my grandparents didn't live to see the downfall and weakness of Britain , led by mercenaries and fops .
These skills still flourish in countries like India and Pakistan, there's many videos of superb craftsmanship from even young Tinsmiths.
Fascinating and heart-breaking all at the same time.
This world lost a great man the day he died, I guess that comes to all of us in time. Wish I had of had a chance to know him.
That bend in his back must be from decades and decades if not a lifetime of devotion to his craft
I am so happy this showed up on my list. Loved it. My Grandmother was born in 1896 and I learned a great deal from her about life in general. I recently retired as a 4th generation Tool and Die maker.
This kind of people built America in a time when being skilled and doing a honest work was very appreciated. They survived war times and depression and they literally built a country with their hands. Their only gain was at the old age when they could appreciate a peaceful life and little things like gardening. This was their reward. Many of them keep working their trade until the end. Was a time in human history when people really take pride of their trade and not they fortune.
well said - thank you for sharing
The 'American Dream' has long been vaunted with great meaning and purpose for the nation: discouraging a critical view of the pursuit of wealth and fame; whilst more worthy goals are sidelined. When did perusing the American Dream come into the language and take hold? It's a phrase often applied to American immigrants going back to the 19th century but I suspect the phrase did not come into being and take a hold of the nation till the second have of the 20th century
Y’all r dumb
Forty six years...I would have loved, so, to share coffee with this man.
This was "tinkering" years ago -- a skilled craft whose products were much in demand, and the craftsmen duly compensated. Today, we use the word to mean doing odd jobs during idle time, on various and sundry things.
I wish they would have asked him about a "tinker's dam" -- my only complaint. Otherwise, a great video of a very skilled and admirable craftsman, and an insight into our past. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for introducing me to this wonderful craftsman and gentleman
A life being well lived , for he stands and owes no man . Beautiful tinsmithing .
Seems like a good man living a good life we all should strive to be like him still doing still being productive glad to come a ross this vid hope this finds you well and working from Dublin ireland
My dad died in 2017..born in 1935, not super old.. but he told me about the rag man and knife sharpener man, and all kinds of older men that had push carts up & down streets in St. Louis Missouri..when he died I feel like some of the old ways died also. This kinda reminds me of him talking to me.
djstl100 we had those here in England when I was young, about 50yrs ago.
My father is still with us, but i feel you. its like watching him work in his shed. theres something special about this sort of thing that people just overlook.
I love those wonderful hands... I think how many things he handmade in his lifetime. Think of those beautiful everyday useful items he made! The wonder of who uses his work...
Superb - a pleasure to watch - thank you for giving this to us..
The coming generations will watch videos of old men showing their skills at rapping and breakdancing, all they learned during their young years.
There are times that break my heart that the youngsters don't have the time to go to the oldsters to see how it was done and ask the questions. So much knowledge is lost . Once lost it is gone forever.
@ check the video at 3:20 this guy won't pass the trade along.
I couldn't believe my ears when he said he wouldn't be passing it on.
There are still tinsmiths around. They just don't build what this fellow did due to economics.
Ways of doing things change or die, nobody bemoans the loss of stone wheel craftsman.
I saw a video of an Irish travelling tinker when I was in county Mayo doing this sort of stuff by hand. Wonderful to see a whitesmith at work, sad the way of these craftsman died out.
gotta love old craftsmen
a lovely Man - thank you for sharing
Thank you for posting this.
Amazing skills and a remarkable man- he mentions that he is using his father's patterns- actually made by his father so many years before. I remember seeing a programme about a watchmaker- the father of a reasonably well-known English actor. The watchmaker had knowledge and skills that were so extensive and remarkable it was just so awful to think that when he died- all that knowledge and experience would be lost.
who was the watchmaker?
Very cool video to watch. Would have loved a chance to meet and speak with him.
Beautiful
i have the same brake! never seen one like it until today!
do you want to sell it?! reply if so!!!!
@@robroy5729 can not, it is being gifted to a friend who loves tin banging :) and will use it daily
@@johndecoteau629 A lucky friend at that!!!!
Shame he wouldn’t take someone on to train, that’s one of the two reasons these old trades/skills are being lost. The other reason is automation, mass produced things that get thrown away because there no one around can fix them.
He uses His brain now you guys 2+2=5 what do you use ohhhhh a computer nowadays there Is not Time to appreciate the simple things that makes us happy
I would've like to have heard more in detail the different things that he was doing and techniques he was using as he constructed the piece he was working on.
That was cool.
That's how it's done... A good life truly lived
Priceless ❤️👍
it really annoy's me when I see the five dislike's above I find my self asking why very good video btw
though you cant see them anymore, they were more than likely misclicks.
I would have enjoyed seeing that grand old fella do the double seam on the bottom of the dipper. This should be in the Library Of Congress . Those tools would really make my projects smoother .
turn it upside down on an anvil and slap it with leather.
The greatest generation.
If you think this vid was about tinsmithing. Your just never going to "get it".
4 years later, and I still don't know why you said "get it" in quotation marks. I don't know what significance it holds that you had to make those words a quote.
Does anyone do this anymore? Maybe it a heritage museum. Otherwise most people don't give a tinker's damn.
I found this video again for the second time just wish I had the tools and the know how to use them
üstat TÜRKİYEDEN SELAMLAR
He said he wouldn't take any help NOW because he's old. He was about 90 when they made this video. Give the guy some slack here. Don't you think he's earned the right to do things the way he likes them, and not to think about how another person would prefer to do things; to tinker for his own joy and entertainment?
He said nothing about having taught the craft to others during the years of tinkering when he was not old, did he? There is no information about him or his disciples online, because he died over 40 years ago. So - you just won't know. You don't know if there were other bright-eyed boys standing by him learning the craft when he was 30, 40, 50, 60, do you?
Unless you know, don't assume the worst.
He said that he didn't take on an apprentice because the other mans work would have been different to his.
Makes me think how I don't want to hear any petty complaints from people living today. These people helped build nations and gave us the opportunity to be our selfish selves.
Awesome in every way
A wonderful video
what a clever old chap.
He was a shit💩💩
I first view this dome time in the late 80s. It is a shame that his art and craft is only found in the third world. Now to this is disapering.
A human shaped by toil.
Great tinker 👍
He was not a tinker
@@franciestokes7121
Francie I think you are watching a different video .
You done have to be a member of the travelling community to be a tinker there's a big difference between two.
@@mazman8343 it true there a tinker in some of us👍
I just went through my sheetmetal apprenticeship , we did all fabrication by hand too but at work its all machines
I did mine building coach bodies and formula cars. Sadly, flat rate at the dealership pays better.
what a great video ...
such sad depressing music
hes cool
Una tradicion que no tiene heredero !!!
you can tinker a robot body, (bots are nearly here!) would be quite a collectors item done in this fashion. (tin man, from the wizard of oz, is the look it would get.)
Ill bet he could make excellent whiskey stills. I wonder what happened to all of his tools and equipment?
sold on eBay. $50 cause nobody knows how to use them.
@@maxwebster7572 That stuff brings big $ at antique tool auctions. If they went cheap I'd have a basement full of them.
@@bobvogel5398 I did my apprenticeship as a coachbuilder. I know what it is, what it is worth and more importantly what to do with it. If you know how to use it the cost isn't that bad. You just happened to look in the wrong places maybe it can be found from people who need it gone yesterday.
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cool
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Plastic has replaced these skills . V
It has. Have you ever tried to repair a plastic moulding though?
Are you my relation. I'm a Forshee in NC.
Are you a tinsmith?
Lovely old accent.
I like the original coal furnace from 1910 in the basement. By the time this was filmed most of them had been removed or had a retrofit gun style oil burner conversion done. These old guys worked in thier basements alot instead of their garage to work where there was heat in the winter. Very common. What was not common yet was to spend on a fancy heated pole barn.
He was not a tinker100%asure you he was not a tinker
What was he then?
@@bobbymancini9069 he was a gobshite 💩
@@franciestokes7121 just like the other guy who made the copper lantern??
@@franciestokes7121 pray to God we live that long as this guy. Obviously he did something right...
Bet he has a copper bong in his freezer
His like are for the most part, gone forever .....Mores the pity.
machines in China
Это ирония?
nacht film
The shame is - he's using modern techniques and no ancient ones as they would of hand-hammered that. 2x2 to bend metal? I've laughed people out of the shop for that.