My question is early in the interview, Rosario said a wrong response would be to say “don’t feel guilty and don’t repent”. What if our response was “don’t feel guilty and repent”?
I respect Dr. Butterfield so, so, so, so much. I refuse to believe that someone with her story is even capable of having a narrow or closed mind. I have also heard so, so much about how loving she and her husband are. I have had an intention to attend her church for a while. Unfortunately, I have failed to find a time in which I have managed to do so (mainly because I graduated from a nearby university, and now the commute to the church would take a half-hour longer.) With all that said, I must admit I have no understanding of how she came to her conclusions on same-sex attraction and same-sex sexual behavior. I have never managed to find a convincing argument that condemns either by means of scripture. I seriously have no idea how such an idea could be derived from the Word of God., I am willing to discuss this, and want to express my deep respect, but I honestly cannot reconcile my exploration of the Word with her understanding of this issue.
When she is quoting Jsmes about temptation, giving birth to sin. If you look at the first part ... there is a key there that is often overlooked. Each one is dragged away and enticed by his own 'evil' desires. The key here is EVIL. Do a deep dive in the word EVIL. It is not necessarily what you think it is. And a better understanding of what evil really is pretty convicting. We think of evil as some awful morally reprehensible thing, the reality is quite different. As root, evil is a turning ... a turning away from but more appropriately turning towards. Evil is turning away from God's divine will or law and turning towards another. It is evil any time we turn away from God and turn towards another. If we put these together by "our own evil desires" we are dragged away and enticed, we get a picture of turning away from God's desires and his will or turning away from desiring God ... (so much to unpack here but time is limited) and trusting His goodness and desires that turn away from God and toward another ... If you really unpack this ... Desires in and of themselves are not bad. They can be very good. You can have healthy desires like desiring God and His will. But when those desires turn away from God (evil) they give birth to sin ... sin to death. So the message that 'desires' are not wrong is misleading. They lead to sin and should be repented of. Repentance again is a word rooted in "turning". To repent is to turn away from. To turn back to God. I know this is long, believe it or not I could go into it sp much more. It's a beautiful passage when it's truly understood. The warning here is guard you heart, your mind, your soul. Your desires are the key ... what do you desire.
What a wonderful interview!
I love this lady,sister,Christian,ere of Christ,! 😅
My question is early in the interview, Rosario said a wrong response would be to say “don’t feel guilty and don’t repent”. What if our response was “don’t feel guilty and repent”?
I respect Dr. Butterfield so, so, so, so much. I refuse to believe that someone with her story is even capable of having a narrow or closed mind.
I have also heard so, so much about how loving she and her husband are. I have had an intention to attend her church for a while. Unfortunately, I have failed to find a time in which I have managed to do so (mainly because I graduated from a nearby university, and now the commute to the church would take a half-hour longer.)
With all that said, I must admit I have no understanding of how she came to her conclusions on same-sex attraction and same-sex sexual behavior. I have never managed to find a convincing argument that condemns either by means of scripture. I seriously have no idea how such an idea could be derived from the Word of God.,
I am willing to discuss this, and want to express my deep respect, but I honestly cannot reconcile my exploration of the Word with her understanding of this issue.
She addresses this at about 5:13
When she is quoting Jsmes about temptation, giving birth to sin. If you look at the first part ... there is a key there that is often overlooked.
Each one is dragged away and enticed by his own 'evil' desires. The key here is EVIL. Do a deep dive in the word EVIL. It is not necessarily what you think it is. And a better understanding of what evil really is pretty convicting.
We think of evil as some awful morally reprehensible thing, the reality is quite different. As root, evil is a turning ... a turning away from but more appropriately turning towards. Evil is turning away from God's divine will or law and turning towards another. It is evil any time we turn away from God and turn towards another.
If we put these together by "our own evil desires" we are dragged away and enticed, we get a picture of turning away from God's desires and his will or turning away from desiring God ... (so much to unpack here but time is limited) and trusting His goodness and desires that turn away from God and toward another ...
If you really unpack this ...
Desires in and of themselves are not bad. They can be very good. You can have healthy desires like desiring God and His will. But when those desires turn away from God (evil) they give birth to sin ... sin to death.
So the message that 'desires' are not wrong is misleading. They lead to sin and should be repented of. Repentance again is a word rooted in "turning". To repent is to turn away from. To turn back to God.
I know this is long, believe it or not I could go into it sp much more. It's a beautiful passage when it's truly understood.
The warning here is guard you heart, your mind, your soul. Your desires are the key ... what do you desire.