Hello, i am aneaesthesiologist and great fan of your channel, but I have to point out that you made a mistake. 4:34 you said that lungs will rupture and gas bubbles will go into the bloodstream causing embolism. That's not the mechanism of barotrauma - lugs will rupture and gas will break delicate structure of alveoli of the lungs causing pneumothorax - gas will enter the space between lungs and ribcage, and with each breath there will be more gas in this constricted space, essentially creating one-way valve, thus raising the pressure inside the ribcage, compressing the lungs and the heart. Veins entering heart and a part of the heart called atrium is very soft, so when compressed it will restrict the amount of blood, lowering the blood pressure and causing a blackout. Cheers from my nighshift!
Just finished 'For All Mankind' and i laughed when they took out the rolls of duct tape. One thing though, during the scene you could see the tape coming off or unraveling and blood boiling off into vacuum. Can't imagine the agony that must feel like.
Grey tape will work on ducts, until it fails. Temperature change (like you see on ducts) turns the adhesive brittle and solid, and the coated fabric decays, fairly quickly.
Din't use the standard fabric-backed grey "duct tape" on your HVAC ducts. It'll work for awhile, but will eventually fail and require you to re-do everything. This is coming from a guy who's spent countless hours under apartment buildings re-assembling dryer vent ducts. What you want to use is metal tape; essentially heavy aluminum foil with a more stable adhesive applied to one side. The truth is that for any given specific application, there's usually a specialized product that will do a better job, and will hold up better long-term. But as a catch-all field expedient tool for temporary or emergency patching or securing tasks, it's hard to beat a roll or two of the classic duct tape.
@@AntiComposite I can attest to this. I had a duct _fall off_ the ceiling (the ceiling was open) and land on the ground. I only noticed it 2 months later after the depths of winter had passed, and just couldn't figure out why my room wasn't getting warm.
Well donchaknow about Stanley K. and the fantastic space mission? Oh man was it the best recording ever, the earth if flat of course so we could NEVer actually do anything like that. Someone tried to teach me physics once, got to the part on ballistics, I figured out by removing the s at the end I could make em go away faster. Great stuff.
@@Yea_I_Got_Nothing I'm guessing a PPS would need a slightly elastic material to actually provide mechanical pressure. So grey tape or basic PVC tape rather than metal foil tape.
Hey Scott, loved your analysis! I noticed something during the episode that might influence it. Molly mentions a time or two that they'll need to empty their lungs before going out. That mention, plus the lack of an apparent oxygen supply for their masks, seems to imply that Gordo and Molly are actually just powering through this thing with empty lungs, rather than getting any air from the masks. They appear to be using them as a rigid element to cover their faces and still have some visibility rather than life support. It seems like the lack of oxygen is the limiting factor to their time of useful consciousness, since the suits seem to do a decent job for what they are.
True. Also I don't mean to be a name police or something but the girl that went out with Gordo is Tracy. My dad gets names wrong or outright forgets sometimes so I get it lol. Just letting you know :)
would their lungs stay empty? A little air would remain in their lungs when they exhale. Without pressure, would that expand to fill their lungs, like a small bubble deep underwater gets bigger as it rises?
@@joshm3484I’m no expert, but if there is only a small amount of air, then it could escape without much trouble. Since it takes the way which offers the least resistance and there is not so much air trying to escape all around once. But if there is no other route to the vacuum, which is the case in the show because they have masks (apart from maybe other significant openings of the body, they could maybe suffice), then I don’t know what would happen
They do -- all the time! My wife constantly reminds me that when watching science fiction or fantasy movies -- or even things like cop shows, where cars are blown into the air because one bullet penetrated the gas tank -- we're witnessing TV/Movie Physics. In those universes, the laws of physics behave however the writers need them to.
Yes, it is... I basically dropped watching this show after I saw that they put space marines in it... A good idea at the beginning, spioled by usual clichés and tropes.
Excuse me Mr. President how do you know what a missile is or who Macgyver is? And are you telling me that John Wilkes Booth shot you with a paper clip gun?
LOL Even more LOL, we actually built a demonstration prototype satellite thruster called the McGyver. And yes, there is a couple paper clips! Really did build something right out of sci-fi, but doesn't matter, the independent testing facility won't give me the time of day.
Thanks for the science on this, it was fascinating to learn it! What bugs me the most is, why would NASA not have an emergency suit next to EVERY airlock in case of emergencies? It seems outside of their normal safety margin, something they discussed in a couple episodes. I would have to agree that they definitely shopped at 'convenient plot device'-mart. Ending made me sad, which it was supposed to do, as well as highlight the dangers in space. Overall love the show, excited for the next season, which I hope focuses more on tech and less on relationships...
I don't think it's an emergency airlock. It's just the airlock from the original module. Probably isn't in use in any capacity. Plus it would take a good while to put on an EVA suit anyways. Not really helpful in a rapid depressurization event.
I know this post is old but I just finished this episode and I can't help but wonder why didn't they just depressurize their room, head to the room with the dead marines, snatch them, go back and repressurize. Would probably take less than 15 seconds. Yes those suits had holes in them but just cover those up with tape, it would be infinitely better than covering your entire body and having no oxygen. Absolutely shopped at plotmart.
Thing is, those two characters didn't have _oxygen masks_ . They just had gas masks poorly pressed against their faces in vain attempt to slow down desiccation of their eyeballs. However, upon decompression, the moisture would precipitate immediately and cover the mask with frost, rendering their view unusable. They did exhale air to prevent pulmonary rupture which doesn't make much sense if they already wanted the masks and tape to work. So in theory, running like 25 m there and back, to switch few cables and press a switch or two is possible, but it would require a lot of duct tape (they were poorly wrapped in the scene), mask held firmly against the face, probably some aluminium foil to prevent thermal damage to the tape, and breathing pure oxygen for few minutes before leaving. Injuries would be inevitable, as well as pain, but one could survive and likely stay reasonably focused during 15 s. The couple died because nobody administered emergency help after pressurization.
"Duct Tape is Magic and Should be Worshipped" ~M Watney. "Can you actually make a Space Suit out of Duct Tape?" ~S. Manley. "Why I actually HATE Duct Tape!" ~Adam Savage
@@joelnorton9742 I mean he was on a show for a number of years where the whole point of it was to test ideas that were simply myths or weren’t well known about. That show had like a 50% failure rate, but that was part of the show. Just like failure is part of engineering. There is simply no science that you can do that has a 100% success rate, otherwise what would you learn from it? I don’t know what you do for a living, if anything, but you probably don’t have a 100% success rate. If you do then I can almost guarantee that that means you haven’t done it enough.
In the show I don't even think they hooked up the face masks to an O2 tank. I think they just used it to protect their faces. That better explains why they only had 15s before loss of consciousness
Wouldn't have done anything anyways. I have a bunch of gas masks and SCBA's and actually own that exact mask as far as I can tell from the video. They use a pair of very thin rubber gaskets to control the air flow for intake and outflow to ensure that air only comes in through the filter and out through the output gasket. Even if the output wasn't designed to dump air out of the mask when there is a pressure differential the input gasket is thin enough it would likely fail with 1 atmosphere of pressure in the mask, on top of temperature stress to it. So the inside of their mask was in vacuum as soon as the decompressed anyways.
Scott: “Minor spoilers from For All Mankind” Me: dont do it Scott: I won’t tell you who wears the suits tho Me: thank goodnesses Scott: *shows their faces* Me: damn
Yeah at about half the video I said to myself scew you Scott and your spoilers and watched the last two episodes missing. Darn, that finale was awesome. And now back to Scott and fact checking :D
By far one of the best episodes ever made. Seriously. So many emotions, so much anxiety, and so much connection to 2 of the best characters ever written for screen. For All Mankind is FIRE. ACES. Perfection. Finally a show that has real emotion.
That scene almost broke me, couldnt stop thinking about it, and the character development of those 2 is just insanely good. I could not agree more, 2 of the best characters ever written for screen.
@@bjnslc Think they made a mistake killing those 2 characters off. This last season has indeed reminded me aswell more of an soap series then the first 2, so I agree with you on that. First 2 seasons I really enjoyed though.
@@bjnslc At first I was a little put off by the super woke messaging (normally something I hate) but I stuck around because the acting was good and I liked some of the characters. The show really grew on me by the end of season 2. Season 3 I agree with you completely again, very soap-opera feeling.
well simple make a real time machine and save Grant from that accident that killed him and tada the show will not get taken off the air it will be like the butterfly effect
I read a scifi novel where humans met an alien race while fighting another race and after the fight was over the two fleets were making repairs and treating wounded while trying to figure out communication and trying to aid one another. In the end peaceful relations were established when an alien saw a human doctor using duct tape as an emergency suture for a wounded man. A couple cases were traded for advanced alien tech and the races became fast friends.
Haven't watched the show, but I would assume that they applied the tape on top of their clothing. If they had to apply it on bare skin, they can also apply the first layer sticky-side-up - they need multiple layers anyway, right? Some hairs might still get caught, but not nearly as many.
(Spoilers) Yep but I suppose at least it's a small consolation that they got to be back together in the end. Kind of beautiful how they start out as the dysfunctional couple and then end up dying together and in love while Ed and Karen seemed this perfect couple from the outside and then end up being the dysfunctional ones. What as show.
@@FYTJ Nah, Karen (hence the name...Karen)... is dysfunctional. Name one thing Ed did that was not true to his character or grounds for divorce? Her cheating didn't really make sense unless you want her character to be unlikable for the sake of drama imo
@@trulyinfamous Actualy the joke is that it's all to pass on your genetic information to the next generation. On a side note you don't actualy have to have kids youdelf to be successful in this way. Since your siblings also share your genetic information helping them pass it on also counts.
That was a cool scene, but the one that really had me wondering was the episode with the solar storm. Would any amount of radiation cause that sort of effect on the regolith?
@@axelvdp1 actually it's not unrealistic, NASA (the real one) has even article about it, if you want to look it up, search for "NASA Study finds solar storms could spark soils at moon poles". But basically for that scene the regolith on the moon is electrically charged which interracts with the solar particles and radiation. The only unrealistic thing about the scene is that in reality if that severe solar storm as in the show hits the regolith it will interract so much that will be like actual dust storm abd wont be able to see anything, they tonned it down for the show because they thought if they recreated it this way even more people would've thought its pure fiction, even tho it wouldn't.
I'm really glad they didn't make that scene any longer! It was tense enough as it was! I'm usually pretty restrained, but I was yelling at the TV for them to hurry.
Yeah, the skin getting burnt, the blood out of the eyes, the eerie look of duct tape ill human. I was like...is this the same show? This is really good stuff. Not that the show was bad, but I keep saying those last 2 episodes were next level.
Someone has probably said it already but grey tape was crucial in the Apollo 13 “Square peg, round hole” fix, arguably the most historic grey tape fix in orbit.
As far as I could tell the masks in the show were just to protect their faces, they breathed out as much air as they could and held their breath. The mask wasn't pressurised.
yeah, the 15 seconds was because they had to breathe out so that the air in their lungs wouldn't overexpand and destroy them once they stepped into the vaccum. That was what I understood at least from the show
A few years ago (maybe even a decade) there were news about experimental space suit technology using elastic materials to apply the needed pressure to the body. Do you have any information about that?
This plot-point was so fastinatingly haunting, I am uncomfortable even remembering it. The fact that they realistically could have survived that makes it even worse somehow. Thanks for that, I guess.
The one guy who was exposed to vacuum for 30 seconds had very little side effects. One trope in hard science fiction is having to dash across the moon without a suit.
I really don't get why they didn't try to use the suit of the dead astronaut, just lying in front of the door... It's surely a lot easier to fix small hole instead of creating a whole suit
You and Adam Savage both posted a video on duct tape within 40 minutes of each other. And both mention how bad it is for ducts almost immediately upon starting to talk about it. Love it
It’s been Duct Tape’s reputation for as long as I can remember. The first time I was introduced to it, my dad said the same thing some 30-odd years ago and he’s not scientifically or mechanically inclined so it’s very general knowledge.
Wondered if someone would already have mentioned the Tested "why i hate duct tape" video and here it is :). Scott had commented on one of Adam's video's recently iirc.
The duct tape I use in air conditioning work (flex duct) is very similar to duck tape, just a better quality. 20 years later it will still keep a duct sealed, where duck tape is shriveled up and worthless@@MrNeptunebob
What I've been learning over the years from various analyses of fiction involving exposure to hard vacuum, is that we consistently overestimate how deadly it is.
its still deadly due to our medical science. even at a few seconds the damage done would kill or severely cripple the person. even the more realistic sci fi depications mention you wouldn't want to be deliberately exposed to vacuum unless it was a dire emergency that death would 100% result if you didn't. it would be like jumping out of a the penthouse of a skyscraper versus being burned to death.
@@toomanyaccounts This comment precisely demonstrates the lack of understanding I'm talking about, thank you. It's equivalent to how you can tell people over and over that there's no sound in space but they'll still add sound effects to sci fi movies anyway. And characters will instafreeze or implode or whatever silly thing they think happens when exposed to vacuum.
@@z-beeblebrox well some of those sci fi depictions do mention that the sounds being heard are the computer adding them in so the crew wouldn't get freaked out by ships on the viewscreens exploding without sound or the ship weapons that fire without noise. I remember one rpg sourcebook saying that while laser weapons didn't have sound the manufacturers would add a sound making module with customizable sounds because customers found it disconcerting that the weapons weren't making a noise when fired. .
@@z-beeblebrox How would you know if there's no sound in space? You haven't gone to space with your ears out in space. When objects hit spacecraft with microphones, you can hear the object hit the outside. If there's a super nova, you think an explosion would have no sound? LOL
@@hegeliandetective1034 It's not a property of "space" it's a property of a vacuum: sound is nothing but how we sense vibrations through a fluid medium. 99% of the time, that medium is Earth's atmosphere, but any medium works. Like eg the metal vibrations on the side of a space ship rippling through the air inside said space ship, or whales singing in the ocean. But all you need to do to prove this fact is create a simple vacuum, go inside it, and you too can experience things not making any sounds. Because obviously - if there's no molecules to vibrate your eardrums, you won't hear anything. It's the sound equivalent of turning off the lights.
They were wearing cloth next to their skin with the duct tape wrapped over it - so probably not a problem other than in areas where the cloth didn't reach...around the neck, for example.
With the "it could have been longer" argument, you forget that the Generic Plot Device, Corp. masks not only provide as much pressure as required by the writer but also as little, and are also as unreliable as they need them to be, too.
As someone who's helped make and had made on them duct tape suits for costume sizing I can confirm some of this. One to two rolls per layer is about right depending on the size of the roll. And they can absolutely create enough pressure, even accidentally, to completely stop your ability to breathe causing people to pass out. I absolutely believe this that they could create enough pressure to act like a pressure suit
As a squba diver i love that a lot of the problems with pressure differences are the same as if you are going to space. The number one rule when scuba diving is never hold your breath especialy when ascending or decompressing
Well to be fair so long as you are just sitting at a constant depth there's nothing wrong with extracting as much O2 from your air as possible by slowing your breathing.
@@S1baar Rapid decreases in pressure while diving can cause decompression sickness. The extra nitrogen that is dissolved into your blood will separate creating air bubbles in your tissue and blood vessels. These bubbles can block blood flow and additionally cause a condition called the "bends" where by the severe agony of bone and joint pain causes you to double over. To put it simply, your body becomes a carbonated drink that just got opened, it's all bubbly and stuff.
@@S1baar Ezekiel Jones isn't wrong, but he didn't answer your question: the reason you never hold your breath is because if you have to swim to the surface in an emergency, the air in your lungs will expand as the outside pressure on your body decreases. This will cause your lungs to inflate and will damage the lung tissue. This is called lung expansion injury, and is a whole other thing that can painfully kill you besides the bends. SCUBA diving is lots of fun, but you really need to get good training.
Fun fact, (as a painter who had stretched many canvases from duck cloth, I'll never get tired of this,) "duct" tape comes from the Dutch word "doek" which simply means canvas or cloth, and I believe was originally used as strips of cloth to repair sails, without ant adhesive backing. Anyway, "doek" is commonly anglicised as "duck," so it's actually more accurate to just call the stuff, "duck tape," since it's no better for use on ducts than it would be on actual ducks. Also gaffers tape is just infinitely better and should always be used in preference when available, (and in most cases is actually adhesive backed cloth, meaning it would be most accurate to call it doek tape instead, but this is English and we don't use words for their etymological consistency around here.)
@@jacksonledford6874 You should not use "duct tape" for ducting work; nearly all brands of commonly sold "duct tape" will fail at properly sealing ducts. The actual kinds of ducting tape used are typically aluminum foil tape.
@@RamadaArtist yeah it's not used to seal ducts just everything else. It came from the history of attaching adhesive to sheets of duck cloth, then called duck tape then duct tape then both interchangeably
Another possible origin is that Duck Tape was originally made using duck feathers as part of the backing, as they have the right size, flexibility, and backing.
@@DanStaal I thought it was called Duck Tape because it was intended to strap multiple ducks together. This... this could explain a few things... excuse me... I have some... things... to... un-tape?
Yeah, you're right, it was far too short. What they depicted was easily survivable, but as usual Hollywood depicts vacuum's lethality as much faster than it actually is.
I think Scott actually talked about that scene in the past. If I remember correctly while he wouldn't have felt perfectly healthy. He wasn't in the vacuum long enough for it to be definitely fatal. The only issue was he breathes in before going out, when the correct response would be to breathe out.
In 2001 Dave pulls the recompression lever in 8 s and recompression starts/completed in about 14 s. So it seems plausible that Bowman could have survived as shown.
I once read somewhere about an oopsie with a spacesuit in the big vacuum chamber at JSC. The guy lived, everything was fine, but I remember one detail of his description of events -- apparently having the saliva on your tongue boil is a very strange feeling, because that's when he realized the scale of the malfunction.
Hi Scott! The masks that appear in the series are not for oxygen, but for face protection. It is mentioned in the series that all the oxygen in the lungs must expire before they can come out.
The quick and simple answer should be no, why? Cuz in the show they wear masks incorrectly aka the hollywood/video game style over the "protective gear" and not under lile they should. If the rubber isn't tightly hugging your skin it doesn't make an air tight seal. So putting it on top of the tape suit would make the masks useless.
Its rare that we see a solution that work in real world in a show but that in the show it works less optimally than it will do in real life. Usually its the other way around lol.
I like to think that I'm addition to getting the Medal of Honor as a civilian, Tracy was given the title of Honorary Marine for consistently helping the Moon Marines on their missions.
I do believe she also got the Presidential Medal of Freedom; there is also a Space Medal of Honor which carries the same weight as the military version and is awarded to astronauts. Pretty cool. Their scene made me so uncomfortable to think about how painful and excruciating it must have been, but they powered through because so many other people's lives were on the line.
and how come the rifles have so little recoil because in real life an ak-47's recoil on lunar gravity would make you lift off the ground. bullets in space should be rocket bullets
@@TeddyKrimsony nope, your mass is the same. The recoil on a AK is not that much. But a AR is a better weapon on the moon as the piston is inside the bolt and would blow any regolith out of the action. That moon dusk will likely jam any semiautomatic weapon. And I would be more terrified by the rocket exhaust with a Gyrojet. In addition, they are useless in CQB as they will need time to get up to high velocity
The show was mostly nonsense from a science viewpoint in the 2nd season. Pathfinder's NERVA engine apparently uses magic pixie dust, because the writers decided liquid hydrogen tanks are lame. Their Moonbase that you don't want a nuclear meltdown in case it renders the surface radioactive.... as the writers forgot earlier in the same season they used the radioactive nature of space as a plot point.., We can go on, like how their is no communication on the "dark"(and the writers think dark and far side of the moon are the same thing) side of the moon, because apparently there was enough in the budget to make a moon base but not put a few comm sats in Lunar orbit.
@@TheOwenMajor and the lack of bottles on the masks. The lack of emergency suits in the locks. Them not replacing the landers. The marines should have been Seals and way better trained. Kind of goes on and on. But still better than a lot of other stuff
That's what I thought too, it seemed it was just so they wouldn't have to cover their face in tape. They didn't bring oxygen tanks with them after all.
Imagine being a network manager or executive producer for this show. You come to visit the set to see how filming is going and how the budget is being spent. You expect to see some amazing set pieces, cool astronaut costumes, maybe catch a space gunfight scene being filmed. But then you see two of the actors wearing gas masks, covered head to toe in duct tape, running across a green-screened sandbox. 😅
@10:27, I get the feeling that someone tried to argue with Scott about how much duct tape would be needed; so Scott did the math, proved them wrong, then flipped them off. :)
@@lumiapowered8463 Yes. A friend of mine who worked in a grocery store, when asked by customers, "Where do I find product such-and-such?" would answer by pointing to the correct aisle with her middle finger, saying "over in aisle three." It was unintentional.
I once gifted a family of truckers a bunch of duct tape and zipties as birthday day gift. Everybody laughed. Many months later we meet again and they said - it literally saved them on the road.
That was a fun sequence, but we need to talk about something else from the show: Moon Blockade. I just... there's no way, right? How could a single Buran blockade the moon, when it seems like even if they arranged their orbit to encounter Sea Dragon and Pathfinder on LOI, all you have to do is like burn a few m/s in any direction a few hours before your LOI burn and Buran will be encountering only empty space. Would it not be the easiest thing in the world to play orbital keep away?
A single buran can blockade the moon if there's no attempt made to divert from a preplanned flight trajectory, such as with automated delivery services. You also still need to be in a specific position for your burn to the moon and the Buran has the initiative on reacting to that; it's already there, and it takes much less dV to make changes in its orbit compared to yours
I was a hysterical mess during that entire scene. I knew they weren't going to make it yet held out hope when they made it back to the module. I needed a drink afterwards.
@@Eversoncars That was such a mean betrayal of my expectations. Usually if a show says "to survive the characters have to do xy" and they manage to do that the characters survive. I really liked how the show reminded us there that space isn't fair. And yes, I also had to pur myself a drink afterwards.
I think part of the "issue"here is grading of duct tape,there is a vast difference in consumer grade tape and industrial high grade duct tape,so you need to add that into the equation in terms ,density of material,adhesive factor.What exact type\specs would NASA use?
NASA uses a Kapton backed tape rated for used between -269C and 400C to ASTM D-5213 (previously they used tape to MIL-P-46112B). It’s 3M 5413 DYCDCKXX Kapton Silicon adhesive tape. NASA Material Number 05896. It is commonly used for precision masking tape.
but wait scott, when they used it in apollo 13, they were essentially taping up an airduct for the co2 scrubbing canisters, in that application it was duct tape
During his Lego Shuttle assembly livestream, didn't he make fun of the kit for not using consistent units? Edit: Why, yes, yes he did, within the first 10 minutes in fact. Glass houses...
@@5Andysalive Аpollo did the flying in metric, mate, calculation and telemetry and all. It was only _translated_ to backwards and _displayed_ so for the crew and the crew only because throughout the whole run the crew was mostly Navy pilots who never touched a metric thing in their life. Also, it's not imperial, it's US Customary. Please learn the difference.
For some weird reason this tape is called gaffer tape in Germany even though most people wouldn’t even know what a gaffer is. It’s used so much by event technicians though that the English term stuck.
The funny part is the show actually mentions foil being their only other choice. They should have wrapped it in a layer of foil above the tape to prevent the adhesive from melting.
God thermodynamics in space is weird. Without atmosphere to transfer heat energy away if you leave stuff in direct sunlight they get baked literaly from the rays. But just throw it in the shade and shits below freezing in a hot second. Crazy stuff
For All Mankind is such an underrated show. One of my favorites at this point. It might be worth remembering that they were holding their breath during this sequence; the masks weren't oxygen masks.
for the most part the show seems to *HAVE* to comply *WAY TOO MUCH* with 2021 gender agenda roles that it starts to be painful. The only redemption for the show is the Gordo and Tracey storyline. Gordo's descent into alcoholism, and getting that "Phoenix Metaphor" when he returned to space, is something A HUGE MAJORITY of people can relate. As well as the tumultuous relationships struggles between Gordo and Tracy is such a great common ground with majority of the viewers because who haven't gone through a difficult/challenging heterosexual relationship in real life? IMHO Yes, it was just sad Tracey and Gordo got killed off.
Close, they weren't holding their breath but emptying their lungs due to the pressure tearing their lungs apart. The mask was probably to protect their eyes.
@@h.cedric8157 “gender agenda roles”? What a mouthful. It’s interesting how I can watch the show and find it a fascinating look at an alternative timeline and see some of the real issues that people faced be they make, female, black, white, gay or straight, skinny or fat, insecure, etc. as well as create some different possible outcomes for various minorities and gender roles... but you boil it all down to some weird lens you look at the world through that you don’t like?
@@JessicaKStark Any fire / emergency facemasks would have bottles, the plot was for them to die. Just like the glue melting. Looks like the tape works fine on the actual lunar rovers.
I have a similar mask with a thread to screw on filters or a air supply (like firefighters use). They seem to have no oxygen supply in the TV show, it's just a full face mask, like you wrote
@@simonm1447 On the ISS they have bottles. On the moon they would as well. Space stations (and moon bases) flood the area with C02 or halon. Filters would be of no use.
Boys and girls, we were right all along. Our childhood imaginations had real-world implications. We CAN in FACT build a spacesuit out of duct tape and tinfoil!
Fascinating! As a pretentious know-it-all who barely understood the science behind this, I need to add that it's not "duct" tape, but rather "duck" tape. I know. That's odd. But hear me out. It was a waterproof tape invented during WWII to quickly repair amphibious vehicles known to GIs colloquially as "Ducks." Originally olive green, and usefull beyond imagination, after the war the color changed to the gray-silver used today. There. I'll shut up now.
If Adam and Jaime made a raft to paddle from Alcatraz to the Marin Highlands using available materials in the prison, I think Adam could figure out a way to make a spacesuit with available materials in a spacecraft.
They didnt have "oxygen masks" though. They had masks and had to exhale their last breath to protect their lungs. So all the oxygen they had is what was in their blood. Atleast thats what I got from the show. And besides, where are the air tanks.
Yes. I think Scott misunderstood that scene. The masks would be IMHO mostly to provide limited sun protection (and possibly dust protection though you can't kick up dust on Moon like on Earth).
On ISS the masks have tanks. On the moon they would also. You can't fight fires in a confined space without them. But they also had the tape melt and Apollo proves that wrong.
The masks clearly had an outer gas seal, and another seal around the nose and mouth. Pulled tight enough, the masks may have retained pressure in the lungs. The plot wanted them to die.
Well, Scott, I have a complaint about that scene. Why is it that Hollywood always - ALWAYS - shows people moving about normally at atmospheric pressure, but the minute they are in vacuum, they're in slo-mo? I understand that on the moon, things fall more slowly, but lateral motion would be unaffected. It's one of my biggest pet peeves about Hollywood science fiction.
Although - given your weight is less but mass hence inertia unchanged, it's probably advisable to move slowly. Less gravity to engage your feet with the (powdery) ground. Probably a Health & Safety requirement
@@crawlinginfilm9683 I watched the astronauts on the moon during the Apollo era. They were not jogging, but neither were they being excessively cautious. They experimented with various modes of locomotion, and IIRC, concluded that a sort of kangaroo hop was the most efficient. In any case, neither they nor the ISS astronauts move in slo-mo, as Hollywood seems to think is required if you're not surrounded by atmosphere.
@@craigcorson3036 I was wondering why they were running "normally" in slow-mo, rather than that skipping-hopping motion. They looked more like they were in an episode of "The Six Million Dollar Man"...and now I have the theme music running through my head :(
@@hatad321 They weren't in zero g, they were on a planetary surface. But, I have seen other films where going from atmosphere to vacuum in a zero g environment made them go slo-mo. Hollywood directors all seem to think, for some reason, that a lack of atmospheric pressure makes a person move more slowly. They're idiots.
I just watched the first season of "For All Mankind" because of this video. I'm tired of lazy writers making everyone look incompetent because they aren't creative enough to develop drama without constant failures. It's not fun to watch people screw things up for 10 straight hours. Update: I just finished season 2. More screw ups and incompetence. I mean they put all these women in there presumably to make some sort of equality statement. Why turn around and make them screw everything up? Then they pull a Fail Safe at the end. So dumb. Also they give Tracey the Medal of Honor and bury her in Arlington, but she wasn't military so wtf? I don't think it works that way lol Civilians were awarded MoH in the Civil War but not once since. Then they play non period music at the end. So lame. Play Nirvana and show Mars. So they're skipping 10 years ahead for season 3 and going to Mars. Got it. Sorry Scott for rage commenting on FAM. Good show just picky with sci fi
I agree with you. I have watched the first season with a hope, because the soviets being first on the Moon was quite an interesting concept. Then they had to screw Apollo 11 landing (in our timeline, Neil Armstrong actually performed the softest landing of all), then they had to blow up a Saturn V on the pad AND the abort system also had to throw the Apollo 23 command module on the beach instead of the sea. Then the J-2 engine had not to relight during Apollo 24. Then the whole orbital repair with Apollo 25 was just too much. You can't wait with a cryogenic stage on orbit for a day until someone, who btw has very little training to perform the task, arrives and changes a broken part. Then the accidental ignition. The writers just wanted Deke dead, along with the other astronaut who died too. As you have written, the series is actually a series of screw ups with some moments of success (Apollo 11 did make it back home, Apollo 15 did find ice on the Moon after a HUGE ammount of drama). It's a terrible space program if there are more failures than successes. That being said, I had no interest in even starting watching season 2. Now that I know how the season went, I don't regret not watching it. I have no problem with military activities in space or on the Moon, but I suppose the recruits would be the most skilled and trained people availiable on both sides. Then I've seen the scene when they shot the two cosmonauts. Very stupid actions from both sides and rules of engagement being thrown out of a window. Then the soviets somehow come unnoticed until it's too late and they invade Jamestown, which should be the best guarded outpost ever. Then there's another reactor making plutonium, which is about to explode and the only acces point to the backup systems is outside. Terrible idea, two people killed. It's just too much of incompetence, not just from the astronauts, but also designers and mission planners and also the military. I'm not saying the show is bad, but for a space nerd like me it's unwatchable. But if the audience enjoys it, I guess it's fine.
Great video as always. I happen to teach aeromedical training to pilots and aircrew and I could probably just play part of this video sit back and enjoy a cup of tea and my students would still get the bulk of the info they need. Not sure how I missed this when it came out. Just some bonus info Pre-breathing O2 does more then just add some extra oxygen in the tissues. If they were breathing a nitrogen oxygen mix before the exposure then there would be a real risk of decompression sickness (DCS) occurring as the nitrogen bubbles out of their blood like co2 does when opening a can of soda. If you switch to 100% oxygen for a couple of hours before hand you can off gas the majority of the nitrogen dissolved into the blood and minimize the effect of the DCS.
"Does duct tape work in a vacuum? You may ask. The answer is, of course it does. Duct tape is magic and should be worshipped."
in the show, they said the adhesive would boil, so tape yes, glue no.
Duct tape cult
*duck tape - everyone writes it the wrong way.
@@vorname1485 its duct tape look it up
@@dylanrimmer No, I'm pretty sure it's duck tape.
TO SHOW YOU THE POWER OF FLEX TAPE, I MADE A SPACE SUIT OUT OF IT
This is the way
I sawed this suit in half!
IT EVEN WORKS UNDERWATER!!!
This could ruin cosplay.
(Airlock scene from Event Horizon) THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE!
Hello, i am aneaesthesiologist and great fan of your channel, but I have to point out that you made a mistake. 4:34 you said that lungs will rupture and gas bubbles will go into the bloodstream causing embolism. That's not the mechanism of barotrauma - lugs will rupture and gas will break delicate structure of alveoli of the lungs causing pneumothorax - gas will enter the space between lungs and ribcage, and with each breath there will be more gas in this constricted space, essentially creating one-way valve, thus raising the pressure inside the ribcage, compressing the lungs and the heart. Veins entering heart and a part of the heart called atrium is very soft, so when compressed it will restrict the amount of blood, lowering the blood pressure and causing a blackout. Cheers from my nighshift!
Thumbs up for nightshift! :)
Well that sounds even more horrid. Thanks!
@@jonathanfairchild Yeah, "cheers!" at the end after that horrifying description, lol.
Im so glad there are smart people with better thinky thoughts than me. Nifty
I’ve had pneumothorax and an embolism (from a car crash, a transport truck came into my lane) - can’t say I recommend it ahaha
Just finished 'For All Mankind' and i laughed when they took out the rolls of duct tape.
One thing though, during the scene you could see the tape coming off or unraveling and blood boiling off into vacuum. Can't imagine the agony that must feel like.
You knew they were bleeding internally.
@@dalethelander3781 just adds to his point
There was a video where dude put his hand in a vacuum chamber. Looked a little less dramatic though
@@оаоаоаммм-л6ь its not the vacuum you have to worry about in space
@@nickowen7406 It’s the Aliens
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If the ladies don't find ya handsome, they should at least find you handy.
keep your stick on the ice
Most under rated comment right here.
thats hilarious😂
Haven’t seen that show in ages I would watch that with my dad as a kid lol
>"You don't use duct tape to fix your air ducts."
>Proceeds to describe how to use duct tape to reinforce human air ducts.
You do actually use duct tape to fix ducts. Looks just like duck tape, but better quality.
Not to be confused with foil metal tape.
@@JoshuaTootell
Your phrasing confused me, but yes, metal foil tape is the modern _literal_ duct tape.
Grey tape will work on ducts, until it fails. Temperature change (like you see on ducts) turns the adhesive brittle and solid, and the coated fabric decays, fairly quickly.
Din't use the standard fabric-backed grey "duct tape" on your HVAC ducts. It'll work for awhile, but will eventually fail and require you to re-do everything. This is coming from a guy who's spent countless hours under apartment buildings re-assembling dryer vent ducts. What you want to use is metal tape; essentially heavy aluminum foil with a more stable adhesive applied to one side.
The truth is that for any given specific application, there's usually a specialized product that will do a better job, and will hold up better long-term. But as a catch-all field expedient tool for temporary or emergency patching or securing tasks, it's hard to beat a roll or two of the classic duct tape.
@@AntiComposite
I can attest to this. I had a duct _fall off_ the ceiling (the ceiling was open) and land on the ground. I only noticed it 2 months later after the depths of winter had passed, and just couldn't figure out why my room wasn't getting warm.
The problem with making a scene like this more realistic, is that more people would complain it is too far from reality...
Well, it's a pretty fantastical scene.
I probably wouldn't believe it even if it was a true story.
haha! so true!
Well donchaknow about Stanley K. and the fantastic space mission? Oh man was it the best recording ever, the earth if flat of course so we could NEVer actually do anything like that. Someone tried to teach me physics once, got to the part on ballistics, I figured out by removing the s at the end I could make em go away faster. Great stuff.
@@Mardhyn you are wasting your intelligence on doing everything you can to not do real work and learn real science……
@@Mardhyn cant tell if trolling or smooth brained
“Duct tape is magic and should be worshipped”
- Mark Watney
ALL HAIL THE GREAT AND POWERFUL DUCT TAPE!!!
The Cult Mechanicus would go crazy for duct tape. Praise the Omnisiah!
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Arthur C Clark
All this time the Ductists and Duckists were fighting over who was right, not realising that they were worshiping the same god!
@@Yea_I_Got_Nothing I'm guessing a PPS would need a slightly elastic material to actually provide mechanical pressure. So grey tape or basic PVC tape rather than metal foil tape.
10:22 "you don't need hundreds of rolls tape, you just need one or two" *flips off the people who think you need hundreds of rolls*
Hey Scott, loved your analysis! I noticed something during the episode that might influence it. Molly mentions a time or two that they'll need to empty their lungs before going out. That mention, plus the lack of an apparent oxygen supply for their masks, seems to imply that Gordo and Molly are actually just powering through this thing with empty lungs, rather than getting any air from the masks. They appear to be using them as a rigid element to cover their faces and still have some visibility rather than life support. It seems like the lack of oxygen is the limiting factor to their time of useful consciousness, since the suits seem to do a decent job for what they are.
True. Also I don't mean to be a name police or something but the girl that went out with Gordo is Tracy. My dad gets names wrong or outright forgets sometimes so I get it lol. Just letting you know :)
Yes this! This whole video missed a bunch of major points
would their lungs stay empty? A little air would remain in their lungs when they exhale. Without pressure, would that expand to fill their lungs, like a small bubble deep underwater gets bigger as it rises?
@@joshm3484I’m no expert, but if there is only a small amount of air, then it could escape without much trouble. Since it takes the way which offers the least resistance and there is not so much air trying to escape all around once. But if there is no other route to the vacuum, which is the case in the show because they have masks (apart from maybe other significant openings of the body, they could maybe suffice), then I don’t know what would happen
Scott continues his tradition of flipping us off every episode at 10:26
I was wondering about that why does he do it?
@@andjoa1975 some poeple do index finger stuff with the middle finger instead. Its more common in russia from what i know
@@kirtil5177 Looks like you uncovered a russian spy...
Scott salute!
Fang you too, Scott ;D
- "Manufactured by Generic Plot Device Corporation" Hollywood should use that more often.
They do -- all the time! My wife constantly reminds me that when watching science fiction or fantasy movies -- or even things like cop shows, where cars are blown into the air because one bullet penetrated the gas tank -- we're witnessing TV/Movie Physics. In those universes, the laws of physics behave however the writers need them to.
Call it GPD Corporation
Yes, it is... I basically dropped watching this show after I saw that they put space marines in it... A good idea at the beginning, spioled by usual clichés and tropes.
Acme Corporation: products that work - in theory (meep meep)
The GPD Corporation.
Somehow, this actually sounds like a real thing.
Woman to Macgyver: Are you one of those guys who can build a missle out of a paper clip?
Macgyver: Why? You got one?
Excuse me Mr. President how do you know what a missile is or who Macgyver is? And are you telling me that John Wilkes Booth shot you with a paper clip gun?
@@gamertron0882 I got bit.
@@abrahamlincoln9758 by the tape? Or by Scott? Scott is known to bite
"A paperclip, or a missile?"
"Missile. My paperwork is a mess."
LOL
Even more LOL, we actually built a demonstration prototype satellite thruster called the McGyver.
And yes, there is a couple paper clips!
Really did build something right out of sci-fi, but doesn't matter, the independent testing facility won't give me the time of day.
Thanks for the science on this, it was fascinating to learn it!
What bugs me the most is, why would NASA not have an emergency suit next to EVERY airlock in case of emergencies? It seems outside of their normal safety margin, something they discussed in a couple episodes. I would have to agree that they definitely shopped at 'convenient plot device'-mart.
Ending made me sad, which it was supposed to do, as well as highlight the dangers in space. Overall love the show, excited for the next season, which I hope focuses more on tech and less on relationships...
Budget cuts....
I don't think it's an emergency airlock. It's just the airlock from the original module. Probably isn't in use in any capacity.
Plus it would take a good while to put on an EVA suit anyways. Not really helpful in a rapid depressurization event.
Hooo boy does Danny Stevens have bad news for you.
@@ebmusicman84 Worst character in the show.
I know this post is old but I just finished this episode and I can't help but wonder why didn't they just depressurize their room, head to the room with the dead marines, snatch them, go back and repressurize. Would probably take less than 15 seconds. Yes those suits had holes in them but just cover those up with tape, it would be infinitely better than covering your entire body and having no oxygen.
Absolutely shopped at plotmart.
Thing is, those two characters didn't have _oxygen masks_ . They just had gas masks poorly pressed against their faces in vain attempt to slow down desiccation of their eyeballs. However, upon decompression, the moisture would precipitate immediately and cover the mask with frost, rendering their view unusable. They did exhale air to prevent pulmonary rupture which doesn't make much sense if they already wanted the masks and tape to work.
So in theory, running like 25 m there and back, to switch few cables and press a switch or two is possible, but it would require a lot of duct tape (they were poorly wrapped in the scene), mask held firmly against the face, probably some aluminium foil to prevent thermal damage to the tape, and breathing pure oxygen for few minutes before leaving. Injuries would be inevitable, as well as pain, but one could survive and likely stay reasonably focused during 15 s. The couple died because nobody administered emergency help after pressurization.
"Duct Tape is Magic and Should be Worshipped" ~M Watney.
"Can you actually make a Space Suit out of Duct Tape?" ~S. Manley.
"Why I actually HATE Duct Tape!" ~Adam Savage
😂 adam savage. Did you see his latest lame reaction wheel engine failure? Enough said
@@joelnorton9742 Who the hell are you to think engineers don't fail?
@@joelnorton9742 I mean he was on a show for a number of years where the whole point of it was to test ideas that were simply myths or weren’t well known about. That show had like a 50% failure rate, but that was part of the show. Just like failure is part of engineering. There is simply no science that you can do that has a 100% success rate, otherwise what would you learn from it? I don’t know what you do for a living, if anything, but you probably don’t have a 100% success rate. If you do then I can almost guarantee that that means you haven’t done it enough.
Well, that's why savage got his ship disassembled in orbit around Venus. Should've used more duct tape.
The duct tape fandom gained some activity this week
In the show I don't even think they hooked up the face masks to an O2 tank. I think they just used it to protect their faces. That better explains why they only had 15s before loss of consciousness
Yup you are correct. They didn't have a supply of o2.
@@Ketothev If memory serves, wasn't that done partially because they wanted to avoid rupturing their lungs?
Yes, they were told to breath out before exiting the airlock, to prevent damaging their lungs. They did not have an oxygen supply.
Wouldn't have done anything anyways. I have a bunch of gas masks and SCBA's and actually own that exact mask as far as I can tell from the video. They use a pair of very thin rubber gaskets to control the air flow for intake and outflow to ensure that air only comes in through the filter and out through the output gasket. Even if the output wasn't designed to dump air out of the mask when there is a pressure differential the input gasket is thin enough it would likely fail with 1 atmosphere of pressure in the mask, on top of temperature stress to it.
So the inside of their mask was in vacuum as soon as the decompressed anyways.
@@mitchellhood8320 Yeah I was thinking that too, the gas mask is designed to let air out not keep it in.
Scott: “Minor spoilers from For All Mankind”
Me: dont do it
Scott: I won’t tell you who wears the suits tho
Me: thank goodnesses
Scott: *shows their faces*
Me: damn
If I were you I would’ve clicked off the video as soon as he said For All Mankind bro
Yeah at about half the video I said to myself scew you Scott and your spoilers and watched the last two episodes missing. Darn, that finale was awesome. And now back to Scott and fact checking :D
@@SpiderGuy38 yeah probably...
So you caught all that other stuff but you missed the part where he said "if you really care about such things you should go watch the show now"?
It's fine, nothing weird happens.
By far one of the best episodes ever made. Seriously. So many emotions, so much anxiety, and so much connection to 2 of the best characters ever written for screen. For All Mankind is FIRE. ACES. Perfection. Finally a show that has real emotion.
That scene almost broke me, couldnt stop thinking about it, and the character development of those 2 is just insanely good. I could not agree more, 2 of the best characters ever written for screen.
I can only hate watch this soapy series. Clearly it has an audience who doesn't hate it.
@@bjnslc Think they made a mistake killing those 2 characters off. This last season has indeed reminded me aswell more of an soap series then the first 2, so I agree with you on that. First 2 seasons I really enjoyed though.
I agree. Season 2 was the strongest season for me, S3 felt a little flat with out Tracy and Gordo.
@@bjnslc At first I was a little put off by the super woke messaging (normally something I hate) but I stuck around because the acting was good and I liked some of the characters.
The show really grew on me by the end of season 2.
Season 3 I agree with you completely again, very soap-opera feeling.
Wish Mythbusters was still on the air. I can totally see them doing this one with the help of NASA and an instrumented Buster.
well simple make a real time machine and save Grant from that accident that killed him and tada the show will not get taken off the air it will be like the butterfly effect
@@raven4k998 The final episode of mythbusters aired two years before Grant passed away. He also died of an aneurysm unrelated to any accident.
Congrats for Scott Manley starring as a Soviet moon base commander, excellent performance!
Let's not forget that Ductape saved Matt Damon on Mars
I read a scifi novel where humans met an alien race while fighting another race and after the fight was over the two fleets were making repairs and treating wounded while trying to figure out communication and trying to aid one another.
In the end peaceful relations were established when an alien saw a human doctor using duct tape as an emergency suture for a wounded man. A couple cases were traded for advanced alien tech and the races became fast friends.
You say that like it's a good thing. ;-)
@@DrewLSsix do you remember the name of that novel or the author?
@@contar549 It's in one of the later books of the lost fleet series by Jack Campbell.
@@DrewLSsix I need to know the name of this series.
“Ok thank god we got back to the ship alive!”
“Yes, yes. Let’s take the tape off now!”
“Wai-“
Ow...
Haven't watched the show, but I would assume that they applied the tape on top of their clothing. If they had to apply it on bare skin, they can also apply the first layer sticky-side-up - they need multiple layers anyway, right? Some hairs might still get caught, but not nearly as many.
@@namewarvergeben maybe..who knows...
the tape of now? what does that mean? I keep re-reading this sentence and it makes no sense to me.
@@desmond-hawkins sorry, typo. I meant off 😃
That scene was heartbreaking and difficult to watch. At least for me.
I was crying when they showed their bodies in the airlock and the scenes after it. I rarely get emotional but this show is just amazing.
I guess this is going to be like GoT. Best not to get too attached to any of the characters.
It wasn’t just you :(
(Spoilers) Yep but I suppose at least it's a small consolation that they got to be back together in the end. Kind of beautiful how they start out as the dysfunctional couple and then end up dying together and in love while Ed and Karen seemed this perfect couple from the outside and then end up being the dysfunctional ones. What as show.
@@FYTJ Nah, Karen (hence the name...Karen)... is dysfunctional. Name one thing Ed did that was not true to his character or grounds for divorce? Her cheating didn't really make sense unless you want her character to be unlikable for the sake of drama imo
I’d just wear what the camera crew had, they seemed to of stayed out longer 😉😊
Duct tape is like the Force: it has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
Beat me to it... was just going to post that. 😉
I can't believe that I just saw this in 2021
Happy May 4th!
May the Forth be With You
May the Forth be With You
"the human body is actually mostly there to support this brain up here"
Gonads: You really think so? That's precious.
You can survive without your gonads.
You can't survive without your brain. (insert political joke here)
Either way the next generation is screwed.
@@trulyinfamous Actualy the joke is that it's all to pass on your genetic information to the next generation. On a side note you don't actualy have to have kids youdelf to be successful in this way. Since your siblings also share your genetic information helping them pass it on also counts.
@@TheAkashicTraveller my bad
Explains why people make bad decisions when gonads are involved. All that oxygen deprivation...
@@phoephoe795 only sustainably for one generation, though.
9:56 "The great thing about tape though is... if it is not strong enough, you can just add multiple layers" - a words to live by.
"If duct tape doesn't work, you're not using enough of it"
Just like a onion, the green god was right....
And you need many layers -> radiation is the bigger problem than vacuum.
That was a cool scene, but the one that really had me wondering was the episode with the solar storm. Would any amount of radiation cause that sort of effect on the regolith?
I think that effect was just to create some drama
@@axelvdp1 actually it's not unrealistic, NASA (the real one) has even article about it, if you want to look it up, search for "NASA Study finds solar storms could spark soils at moon poles". But basically for that scene the regolith on the moon is electrically charged which interracts with the solar particles and radiation. The only unrealistic thing about the scene is that in reality if that severe solar storm as in the show hits the regolith it will interract so much that will be like actual dust storm abd wont be able to see anything, they tonned it down for the show because they thought if they recreated it this way even more people would've thought its pure fiction, even tho it wouldn't.
@@toreadoress Amazing. thanks for the heads up
This scene was unsettling, and excellent. I'd totally look past the unrealism of it, and it's even better knowing it's plausible.
@@toreadoress I know a thing or two about unshielded microwave ovens and that many RADs would cook your corneas, blinding you almost instantly.
I'm really glad they didn't make that scene any longer! It was tense enough as it was! I'm usually pretty restrained, but I was yelling at the TV for them to hurry.
honestly this scene shook me so much, especially when blood started spurting out of the cracks
A very emotional scene for sure
Yeah who cares if it’s realistic or not, it was the most heartbreaking and beautiful scene I’ve ever seen in a show
Yeah, the skin getting burnt, the blood out of the eyes, the eerie look of duct tape ill human. I was like...is this the same show? This is really good stuff. Not that the show was bad, but I keep saying those last 2 episodes were next level.
they die?
Next time they go out to the moon make them wear duct tape suits and save money
Someone has probably said it already but grey tape was crucial in the Apollo 13 “Square peg, round hole” fix, arguably the most historic grey tape fix in orbit.
Not orbit; cis-lunar space.
As far as I could tell the masks in the show were just to protect their faces, they breathed out as much air as they could and held their breath. The mask wasn't pressurised.
That was also my impression
yeah, the 15 seconds was because they had to breathe out so that the air in their lungs wouldn't overexpand and destroy them once they stepped into the vaccum. That was what I understood at least from the show
Same
Yeah, when Molly instructs Gordo, she explicitly tells him to breathe out all the air or his lungs will burst. So, no fresh air supply.
That was for the plot. Any fire masks would have an oxygen bottle. You are NOT going to live if the writers want you dead.
How the hell this show went under my radar until just now is beyond me. I'm gonna start watching it tomorrow.
ikr the show is right up my alley but i only found out about the show when they already halfway through season 2
Because the first half of the first season is pretty awful. Even when it eventually starts to pick up at best its a C+ show towards the end.
@@jfdowsley yeah I loved the show! It was awesome. Can’t wait for season 3
@@pyromcr How does it compare to the expanse?
It's one of the greatest shows of all time and yet it's hardly advertised or talked about. Apple needs to make it available on other platforms.
A few years ago (maybe even a decade) there were news about experimental space suit technology using elastic materials to apply the needed pressure to the body. Do you have any information about that?
Ultra tight nylon-spandex-rubber suits, the issue is that they rip too easily and they're tough to put on.
This plot-point was so fastinatingly haunting, I am uncomfortable even remembering it. The fact that they realistically could have survived that makes it even worse somehow.
Thanks for that, I guess.
The one guy who was exposed to vacuum for 30 seconds had very little side effects. One trope in hard science fiction is having to dash across the moon without a suit.
@@bindingcurve That wasn't next to the highly reflective surface of the moon, making it 200 degrees C.
@@karadan100 That temperature would drop off substantially at just a short distance above the surface in a vacuum.
I really don't get why they didn't try to use the suit of the dead astronaut, just lying in front of the door... It's surely a lot easier to fix small hole instead of creating a whole suit
@@karadan100 Apollo used duct tape on the rovers without issues. There is no air to conduct the heat. Their shoes would have been fine for a while.
You and Adam Savage both posted a video on duct tape within 40 minutes of each other. And both mention how bad it is for ducts almost immediately upon starting to talk about it. Love it
It’s been Duct Tape’s reputation for as long as I can remember. The first time I was introduced to it, my dad said the same thing some 30-odd years ago and he’s not scientifically or mechanically inclined so it’s very general knowledge.
Wondered if someone would already have mentioned the Tested "why i hate duct tape" video and here it is :). Scott had commented on one of Adam's video's recently iirc.
Now a question is: Would actual duct tape made of a foil material marketed for use on ducts be any better?
@@MrNeptunebob I believe according to Adam Savage and the video posted earlier, yes it is much better. 😄
The duct tape I use in air conditioning work (flex duct) is very similar to duck tape, just a better quality. 20 years later it will still keep a duct sealed, where duck tape is shriveled up and worthless@@MrNeptunebob
Bye Bob 😭
My poor Gordo and Tracy went out like Champs. A sad yet great end to great characters and character arcs.
Poor gordo was my favourite character, of the show, i was so sad when i saw they both died
Bye bob
That scene had me a little teary.
@@dalemsilas8425 yeah, me too. They will be always remembered as the true heroes of the show!
Bye bob:(
What I've been learning over the years from various analyses of fiction involving exposure to hard vacuum, is that we consistently overestimate how deadly it is.
its still deadly due to our medical science. even at a few seconds the damage done would kill or severely cripple the person. even the more realistic sci fi depications mention you wouldn't want to be deliberately exposed to vacuum unless it was a dire emergency that death would 100% result if you didn't. it would be like jumping out of a the penthouse of a skyscraper versus being burned to death.
@@toomanyaccounts This comment precisely demonstrates the lack of understanding I'm talking about, thank you. It's equivalent to how you can tell people over and over that there's no sound in space but they'll still add sound effects to sci fi movies anyway. And characters will instafreeze or implode or whatever silly thing they think happens when exposed to vacuum.
@@z-beeblebrox well some of those sci fi depictions do mention that the sounds being heard are the computer adding them in so the crew wouldn't get freaked out by ships on the viewscreens exploding without sound or the ship weapons that fire without noise.
I remember one rpg sourcebook saying that while laser weapons didn't have sound the manufacturers would add a sound making module with customizable sounds because customers found it disconcerting that the weapons weren't making a noise when fired.
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@@z-beeblebrox How would you know if there's no sound in space? You haven't gone to space with your ears out in space. When objects hit spacecraft with microphones, you can hear the object hit the outside. If there's a super nova, you think an explosion would have no sound? LOL
@@hegeliandetective1034 It's not a property of "space" it's a property of a vacuum: sound is nothing but how we sense vibrations through a fluid medium. 99% of the time, that medium is Earth's atmosphere, but any medium works. Like eg the metal vibrations on the side of a space ship rippling through the air inside said space ship, or whales singing in the ocean. But all you need to do to prove this fact is create a simple vacuum, go inside it, and you too can experience things not making any sounds. Because obviously - if there's no molecules to vibrate your eardrums, you won't hear anything. It's the sound equivalent of turning off the lights.
I had to pause the video for 20 hours to watch the show, because I've never heard about it before, but it was worth it.
"Fly safe", he tells me after teaching me how to make a duct tape space suit, and previously a fire extinguisher manuvering unit,...
Lol!!
Fly safe could be a call to not to get out of whatever you're flying.
when did he do the last thing
Just imagine you survive and you need to pull all the tape off your skin. Woohoo!!
Ow
Oh, I get it no, duck tape mittens are not gonna make it easy.
Better than dead 💀
They were wearing cloth next to their skin with the duct tape wrapped over it - so probably not a problem other than in areas where the cloth didn't reach...around the neck, for example.
My comment exactly lol
Generic Plot Device Corp
Delivering you the exact specifications to move your story forward
I'm pretty sure they're a subsidiary of Acme.
The props face masks are north 5400 respirator with the filter cartridges removed fyi
With the "it could have been longer" argument, you forget that the Generic Plot Device, Corp. masks not only provide as much pressure as required by the writer but also as little, and are also as unreliable as they need them to be, too.
There is no actual gas tank. They just use them as a rigid, transparent structure so they can see. They are running on empty lungs.
IRL those masks are designed to let air out very easily.
They at least acknowledge that they aren't hooked up to an air supply, so points for trying.
This sounds like a Mythbusters episode.
As someone who's helped make and had made on them duct tape suits for costume sizing I can confirm some of this. One to two rolls per layer is about right depending on the size of the roll. And they can absolutely create enough pressure, even accidentally, to completely stop your ability to breathe causing people to pass out. I absolutely believe this that they could create enough pressure to act like a pressure suit
your people just got a shout-out in scotts twitter, about knowing how much duct tape it takes.
Hehe fursuit maker
Cousing people to WHAT?
how do you know this?
@@DrWhom People use tape to measure the size of a person for cosplays/fursuits
That scene when they find out what happen after they got back in was rough.
As a squba diver i love that a lot of the problems with pressure differences are the same as if you are going to space. The number one rule when scuba diving is never hold your breath especialy when ascending or decompressing
Well to be fair so long as you are just sitting at a constant depth there's nothing wrong with extracting as much O2 from your air as possible by slowing your breathing.
@@SimplySketchyGT Slow your breathing = fine, holding breath = very bad habit
i dont get that. why is that?
@@S1baar Rapid decreases in pressure while diving can cause decompression sickness. The extra nitrogen that is dissolved into your blood will separate creating air bubbles in your tissue and blood vessels. These bubbles can block blood flow and additionally cause a condition called the "bends" where by the severe agony of bone and joint pain causes you to double over.
To put it simply, your body becomes a carbonated drink that just got opened, it's all bubbly and stuff.
@@S1baar Ezekiel Jones isn't wrong, but he didn't answer your question: the reason you never hold your breath is because if you have to swim to the surface in an emergency, the air in your lungs will expand as the outside pressure on your body decreases. This will cause your lungs to inflate and will damage the lung tissue. This is called lung expansion injury, and is a whole other thing that can painfully kill you besides the bends. SCUBA diving is lots of fun, but you really need to get good training.
Fun fact, (as a painter who had stretched many canvases from duck cloth, I'll never get tired of this,) "duct" tape comes from the Dutch word "doek" which simply means canvas or cloth, and I believe was originally used as strips of cloth to repair sails, without ant adhesive backing. Anyway, "doek" is commonly anglicised as "duck," so it's actually more accurate to just call the stuff, "duck tape," since it's no better for use on ducts than it would be on actual ducks.
Also gaffers tape is just infinitely better and should always be used in preference when available, (and in most cases is actually adhesive backed cloth, meaning it would be most accurate to call it doek tape instead, but this is English and we don't use words for their etymological consistency around here.)
In the us it is used for duct work sometimes and the oldest brand is called duck tape
@@jacksonledford6874 You should not use "duct tape" for ducting work; nearly all brands of commonly sold "duct tape" will fail at properly sealing ducts. The actual kinds of ducting tape used are typically aluminum foil tape.
@@RamadaArtist yeah it's not used to seal ducts just everything else. It came from the history of attaching adhesive to sheets of duck cloth, then called duck tape then duct tape then both interchangeably
Another possible origin is that Duck Tape was originally made using duck feathers as part of the backing, as they have the right size, flexibility, and backing.
@@DanStaal I thought it was called Duck Tape because it was intended to strap multiple ducks together. This... this could explain a few things... excuse me... I have some... things... to... un-tape?
My take away from this: you're always tens of seconds away from death.
"Generic Plot Device Corporation" is my new favorite thing.
I wonder if it's the real life version of ACME.
(A Company that Makes Everything.) XD
They probably have a tag line of "If you need something, we have it."
Ahh gordo, my homie kept it real on the streets
Are you Colombian?
@@hupekyser no, Brazilian
@@k-osmonaut8807 Sopa do maccaco, manito
@@raico6890 bruh, outro br
All my questions have been answered...
Ferb, I know what we are going to do today!
I was about to reply as Pinky, and realized I suddenly want a Phineas and Pinky episode.
hold up, wait a minute
That scene was so freaking amazing. No spoilers but I was on the edge of my seat the entire time
Yeah, you're right, it was far too short. What they depicted was easily survivable, but as usual Hollywood depicts vacuum's lethality as much faster than it actually is.
Far too short is incorrect, and not what the guy was saying. He was basing it off of a certain mask which gordo & company most likely didn't have
It shows my age that I'm wondering about the 2001 scenario ....
'Open the pod bay door, Hal'.
Same here. Not all vacuum suckers buy it.
I think Scott actually talked about that scene in the past. If I remember correctly while he wouldn't have felt perfectly healthy. He wasn't in the vacuum long enough for it to be definitely fatal. The only issue was he breathes in before going out, when the correct response would be to breathe out.
@@Robb1977 That's right - he did ... must have been a while ago though ... I'll see if I can find it !
@@emsleywyatt3400 Indeed. For example, on a Thursday at a probability of two to the power of 276,709 to one against.
In 2001 Dave pulls the recompression lever in 8 s and recompression starts/completed in about 14 s. So it seems plausible that Bowman could have survived as shown.
I once read somewhere about an oopsie with a spacesuit in the big vacuum chamber at JSC. The guy lived, everything was fine, but I remember one detail of his description of events -- apparently having the saliva on your tongue boil is a very strange feeling, because that's when he realized the scale of the malfunction.
Hi Scott! The masks that appear in the series are not for oxygen, but for face protection. It is mentioned in the series that all the oxygen in the lungs must expire before they can come out.
The quick and simple answer should be no, why? Cuz in the show they wear masks incorrectly aka the hollywood/video game style over the "protective gear" and not under lile they should. If the rubber isn't tightly hugging your skin it doesn't make an air tight seal. So putting it on top of the tape suit would make the masks useless.
Its rare that we see a solution that work in real world in a show but that in the show it works less optimally than it will do in real life. Usually its the other way around lol.
I love the new intro with the Kerbal =)
me too
Thanks!
I like to think that I'm addition to getting the Medal of Honor as a civilian, Tracy was given the title of Honorary Marine for consistently helping the Moon Marines on their missions.
I do believe she also got the Presidential Medal of Freedom; there is also a Space Medal of Honor which carries the same weight as the military version and is awarded to astronauts. Pretty cool. Their scene made me so uncomfortable to think about how painful and excruciating it must have been, but they powered through because so many other people's lives were on the line.
You should do more videos on for all mankind (Pathfinder shuttle, the moon base, etc...)
and how come the rifles have so little recoil because in real life an ak-47's recoil on lunar gravity would make you lift off the ground. bullets in space should be rocket bullets
@@TeddyKrimsony nope, your mass is the same. The recoil on a AK is not that much. But a AR is a better weapon on the moon as the piston is inside the bolt and would blow any regolith out of the action. That moon dusk will likely jam any semiautomatic weapon. And I would be more terrified by the rocket exhaust with a Gyrojet. In addition, they are useless in CQB as they will need time to get up to high velocity
The show was mostly nonsense from a science viewpoint in the 2nd season.
Pathfinder's NERVA engine apparently uses magic pixie dust, because the writers decided liquid hydrogen tanks are lame.
Their Moonbase that you don't want a nuclear meltdown in case it renders the surface radioactive.... as the writers forgot earlier in the same season they used the radioactive nature of space as a plot point..,
We can go on, like how their is no communication on the "dark"(and the writers think dark and far side of the moon are the same thing) side of the moon, because apparently there was enough in the budget to make a moon base but not put a few comm sats in Lunar orbit.
@@TheOwenMajor and the lack of bottles on the masks. The lack of emergency suits in the locks. Them not replacing the landers. The marines should have been Seals and way better trained. Kind of goes on and on. But still better than a lot of other stuff
I think that their lungs were supposed to be completely empty and the masks were basically useless.
That's what I thought too, it seemed it was just so they wouldn't have to cover their face in tape. They didn't bring oxygen tanks with them after all.
@@Skye-ve6tc That can't be good for the eyes, though.
@@trabaregocer Kept the regolith out.
Imagine being a network manager or executive producer for this show.
You come to visit the set to see how filming is going and how the budget is being spent. You expect to see some amazing set pieces, cool astronaut costumes, maybe catch a space gunfight scene being filmed. But then you see two of the actors wearing gas masks, covered head to toe in duct tape, running across a green-screened sandbox. 😅
0:30: "Minor spoiler for the show but I'm not telling you who wears them"
8:30: *Shows their faces*
Me: *Surprised pikachu face*
If you’re enough of a fan to recognize them by their eyes then you’re enough of a fan to have watched it in the week since it was released
@@scottmanley Manley spitting the real facts even in the comments
@10:27, I get the feeling that someone tried to argue with Scott about how much duct tape would be needed; so Scott did the math, proved them wrong, then flipped them off. :)
I assumed one would need multiple rolls of tape, so I asked about it on twitter. Didn't expect this and it kinda ruined my day.
The bird is the word.
Yeah, seemed personal and not very gracefully done.
Some people tend to use the middle finger for things that usually are done with the index finger, probably wasn't intentional
@@lumiapowered8463 Yes. A friend of mine who worked in a grocery store, when asked by customers, "Where do I find product such-and-such?" would answer by pointing to the correct aisle with her middle finger, saying "over in aisle three." It was unintentional.
I once gifted a family of truckers a bunch of duct tape and zipties as birthday day gift. Everybody laughed. Many months later we meet again and they said - it literally saved them on the road.
Duct tape and zip ties have helped me limp a truck on in to civilization more than once. Good stuff!
If things move and where they should not - duct tape
if things that should move dont - WD 40
universal law of physics
That awkward moment when you recognize where the "tin foil cosplay" photo was taken in like two seconds.
Atlanta Marriott?
@@JohnMcNeel The very same.
That was a fun sequence, but we need to talk about something else from the show: Moon Blockade.
I just... there's no way, right? How could a single Buran blockade the moon, when it seems like even if they arranged their orbit to encounter Sea Dragon and Pathfinder on LOI, all you have to do is like burn a few m/s in any direction a few hours before your LOI burn and Buran will be encountering only empty space. Would it not be the easiest thing in the world to play orbital keep away?
A single buran can blockade the moon if there's no attempt made to divert from a preplanned flight trajectory, such as with automated delivery services. You also still need to be in a specific position for your burn to the moon and the Buran has the initiative on reacting to that; it's already there, and it takes much less dV to make changes in its orbit compared to yours
"You can drive a car with your feet if you want to. That don't make it a good idea." Chris Rock
I was a hysterical mess during that entire scene. I knew they weren't going to make it yet held out hope when they made it back to the module. I needed a drink afterwards.
Same, was crying all over myself and was excited until they found Tracy and gordo in the airlock
@@Eversoncars That was such a mean betrayal of my expectations. Usually if a show says "to survive the characters have to do xy" and they manage to do that the characters survive. I really liked how the show reminded us there that space isn't fair. And yes, I also had to pur myself a drink afterwards.
I think part of the "issue"here is grading of duct tape,there is a vast difference in consumer grade tape and industrial high grade duct tape,so you need to add that into the equation in terms ,density of material,adhesive factor.What exact type\specs would NASA use?
"What exact type\specs would NASA use?" - Duck brand duct tape.
NASA uses a Kapton backed tape rated for used between -269C and 400C to ASTM D-5213 (previously they used tape to MIL-P-46112B).
It’s 3M 5413 DYCDCKXX Kapton Silicon adhesive tape. NASA Material Number 05896.
It is commonly used for precision masking tape.
Turns out Gordo's mustache accounted for 35% of his suit's structural integrity.
but wait scott, when they used it in apollo 13, they were essentially taping up an airduct for the co2 scrubbing canisters, in that application it was duct tape
2:46 pressure in psi, depth and altitude in feet, but barometric pressure in mmHg. I love you imperial folks!
During his Lego Shuttle assembly livestream, didn't he make fun of the kit for not using consistent units? Edit: Why, yes, yes he did, within the first 10 minutes in fact. Glass houses...
I like to call them "Retardenheiters".
Apollo did the flying in imperial but the science in metric. When you listen to EVA audio it's all meters.
@@5Andysalive Аpollo did the flying in metric, mate, calculation and telemetry and all. It was only _translated_ to backwards and _displayed_ so for the crew and the crew only because throughout the whole run the crew was mostly Navy pilots who never touched a metric thing in their life. Also, it's not imperial, it's US Customary. Please learn the difference.
@@Anvilshock So, I looked up the difference between US customary and Imperial. I didn't know that was a thing, so I learnt something :).
"I wont tell you who is in the duct tape suits so that I don't spoil it for you." @8:30 Close-ups of who is in the suits. "Sike!"
* "psych!"
For some weird reason this tape is called gaffer tape in Germany even though most people wouldn’t even know what a gaffer is. It’s used so much by event technicians though that the English term stuck.
The funny part is the show actually mentions foil being their only other choice. They should have wrapped it in a layer of foil above the tape to prevent the adhesive from melting.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm sure thats what the lunar module used for heat shielding. Layers of foil, kapton and mylar.
God thermodynamics in space is weird. Without atmosphere to transfer heat energy away if you leave stuff in direct sunlight they get baked literaly from the rays. But just throw it in the shade and shits below freezing in a hot second. Crazy stuff
For All Mankind is such an underrated show. One of my favorites at this point. It might be worth remembering that they were holding their breath during this sequence; the masks weren't oxygen masks.
They needed to die. They are on a SPACE station, any masks would have a O2 bottle attached. I checked and ISS has full face masks with bottles.
for the most part the show seems to *HAVE* to comply *WAY TOO MUCH* with 2021 gender agenda roles that it starts to be painful.
The only redemption for the show is the Gordo and Tracey storyline.
Gordo's descent into alcoholism, and getting that "Phoenix Metaphor" when he returned to space, is something A HUGE MAJORITY of people can relate.
As well as the tumultuous relationships struggles between Gordo and Tracy is such a great common ground with majority of the viewers because who haven't gone through a difficult/challenging heterosexual relationship in real life?
IMHO
Yes, it was just sad Tracey and Gordo got killed off.
@@bindingcurve Unfortunately, some writers are allowed to ignore common sense if it advances the plot...
Close, they weren't holding their breath but emptying their lungs due to the pressure tearing their lungs apart.
The mask was probably to protect their eyes.
@@h.cedric8157 “gender agenda roles”? What a mouthful. It’s interesting how I can watch the show and find it a fascinating look at an alternative timeline and see some of the real issues that people faced be they make, female, black, white, gay or straight, skinny or fat, insecure, etc. as well as create some different possible outcomes for various minorities and gender roles... but you boil it all down to some weird lens you look at the world through that you don’t like?
Scott: “I’m not gonna tell you who was wearing the duct tapes.”
Gordo and Trace enter.
glad to see somebody is not too afraid to answer the real questions
Are you related to Sigismund?
Ah shit.. While I respect this guys knowledge, I came here hoping to see him make a duct tape space suit....
That whole scene reminded me of the rooftop clearing scene from Chernobyl.
Generic Plot Device corporation, is that the division of ACME seen in the Roadrunner cartoons?
No, they are competitors.
From my understanding, those face mask exactly gave them ZERO oxygen or pressure of any kind.
Yep. It's a filtration mask that can also get hooked up to a central oxygen supply. No bottles.
Couldn't you tape the mask up to provide some amount of residual pressure?
@@JessicaKStark Any fire / emergency facemasks would have bottles, the plot was for them to die. Just like the glue melting. Looks like the tape works fine on the actual lunar rovers.
I have a similar mask with a thread to screw on filters or a air supply (like firefighters use).
They seem to have no oxygen supply in the TV show, it's just a full face mask, like you wrote
@@simonm1447 On the ISS they have bottles. On the moon they would as well. Space stations (and moon bases) flood the area with C02 or halon. Filters would be of no use.
10:26 you flipping us off Scott? what did we do to deserve that?
No, just me haha
Boys and girls, we were right all along. Our childhood imaginations had real-world implications. We CAN in FACT build a spacesuit out of duct tape and tinfoil!
I literally watched this video until he said you should watch it first.
Watched both seasons in 6 days and then resumed watching the video
I'm surprised you haven't done more videos on the second season of For All Mankind, Scott.
I will have to verify all this with "Red Green"
How about an SF novel entitled, "Have Duct Tape, Will Travel," by Scott Manley.
the fact that the body knows how to recover from a vacuum is astonishing
Fascinating! As a pretentious know-it-all who barely understood the science behind this, I need to add that it's not "duct" tape, but rather "duck" tape. I know. That's odd. But hear me out. It was a waterproof tape invented during WWII to quickly repair amphibious vehicles known to GIs colloquially as "Ducks." Originally olive green, and usefull beyond imagination, after the war the color changed to the gray-silver used today. There. I'll shut up now.
Scott made a space shuttle out of Lego Blocks !! Of course you can make a space suit out of duct tape. Too bad MythBusters is no longer together.
If Adam and Jaime made a raft to paddle from Alcatraz to the Marin Highlands using available materials in the prison, I think Adam could figure out a way to make a spacesuit with available materials in a spacecraft.
They didnt have "oxygen masks" though. They had masks and had to exhale their last breath to protect their lungs. So all the oxygen they had is what was in their blood. Atleast thats what I got from the show. And besides, where are the air tanks.
Yes. I think Scott misunderstood that scene. The masks would be IMHO mostly to provide limited sun protection (and possibly dust protection though you can't kick up dust on Moon like on Earth).
On ISS the masks have tanks. On the moon they would also. You can't fight fires in a confined space without them. But they also had the tape melt and Apollo proves that wrong.
The masks clearly had an outer gas seal, and another seal around the nose and mouth. Pulled tight enough, the masks may have retained pressure in the lungs. The plot wanted them to die.
Well, Scott, I have a complaint about that scene. Why is it that Hollywood always - ALWAYS - shows people moving about normally at atmospheric pressure, but the minute they are in vacuum, they're in slo-mo? I understand that on the moon, things fall more slowly, but lateral motion would be unaffected. It's one of my biggest pet peeves about Hollywood science fiction.
Although - given your weight is less but mass hence inertia unchanged, it's probably advisable to move slowly. Less gravity to engage your feet with the (powdery) ground. Probably a Health & Safety requirement
@@crawlinginfilm9683 I watched the astronauts on the moon during the Apollo era. They were not jogging, but neither were they being excessively cautious. They experimented with various modes of locomotion, and IIRC, concluded that a sort of kangaroo hop was the most efficient. In any case, neither they nor the ISS astronauts move in slo-mo, as Hollywood seems to think is required if you're not surrounded by atmosphere.
@@craigcorson3036 I was wondering why they were running "normally" in slow-mo, rather than that skipping-hopping motion. They looked more like they were in an episode of "The Six Million Dollar Man"...and now I have the theme music running through my head :(
Its probably pretty hard to do good looking zero-g walking in a 1-g studio, so their idea is "just make it slower".
@@hatad321 They weren't in zero g, they were on a planetary surface. But, I have seen other films where going from atmosphere to vacuum in a zero g environment made them go slo-mo. Hollywood directors all seem to think, for some reason, that a lack of atmospheric pressure makes a person move more slowly. They're idiots.
I just watched the first season of "For All Mankind" because of this video. I'm tired of lazy writers making everyone look incompetent because they aren't creative enough to develop drama without constant failures. It's not fun to watch people screw things up for 10 straight hours.
Update: I just finished season 2. More screw ups and incompetence. I mean they put all these women in there presumably to make some sort of equality statement. Why turn around and make them screw everything up? Then they pull a Fail Safe at the end. So dumb. Also they give Tracey the Medal of Honor and bury her in Arlington, but she wasn't military so wtf? I don't think it works that way lol Civilians were awarded MoH in the Civil War but not once since.
Then they play non period music at the end. So lame. Play Nirvana and show Mars. So they're skipping 10 years ahead for season 3 and going to Mars. Got it.
Sorry Scott for rage commenting on FAM. Good show just picky with sci fi
I agree with you. I have watched the first season with a hope, because the soviets being first on the Moon was quite an interesting concept. Then they had to screw Apollo 11 landing (in our timeline, Neil Armstrong actually performed the softest landing of all), then they had to blow up a Saturn V on the pad AND the abort system also had to throw the Apollo 23 command module on the beach instead of the sea. Then the J-2 engine had not to relight during Apollo 24. Then the whole orbital repair with Apollo 25 was just too much. You can't wait with a cryogenic stage on orbit for a day until someone, who btw has very little training to perform the task, arrives and changes a broken part. Then the accidental ignition. The writers just wanted Deke dead, along with the other astronaut who died too. As you have written, the series is actually a series of screw ups with some moments of success (Apollo 11 did make it back home, Apollo 15 did find ice on the Moon after a HUGE ammount of drama). It's a terrible space program if there are more failures than successes.
That being said, I had no interest in even starting watching season 2. Now that I know how the season went, I don't regret not watching it. I have no problem with military activities in space or on the Moon, but I suppose the recruits would be the most skilled and trained people availiable on both sides. Then I've seen the scene when they shot the two cosmonauts. Very stupid actions from both sides and rules of engagement being thrown out of a window. Then the soviets somehow come unnoticed until it's too late and they invade Jamestown, which should be the best guarded outpost ever. Then there's another reactor making plutonium, which is about to explode and the only acces point to the backup systems is outside. Terrible idea, two people killed. It's just too much of incompetence, not just from the astronauts, but also designers and mission planners and also the military.
I'm not saying the show is bad, but for a space nerd like me it's unwatchable. But if the audience enjoys it, I guess it's fine.
@@lipo8426 Right on. You speak the truth
Great video as always. I happen to teach aeromedical training to pilots and aircrew and I could probably just play part of this video sit back and enjoy a cup of tea and my students would still get the bulk of the info they need. Not sure how I missed this when it came out.
Just some bonus info Pre-breathing O2 does more then just add some extra oxygen in the tissues. If they were breathing a nitrogen oxygen mix before the exposure then there would be a real risk of decompression sickness (DCS) occurring as the nitrogen bubbles out of their blood like co2 does when opening a can of soda. If you switch to 100% oxygen for a couple of hours before hand you can off gas the majority of the nitrogen dissolved into the blood and minimize the effect of the DCS.