Added your video on the spindle gouge and adding this one, too. Thanks for both! BTW, I noticed the grind on the right side (looking from the top) was shorter than the left side. Does it make any difference?
Thank you for taking the time to upload a nice clear video. I am concerned, however, that the gouge you show in the video has a severe dip in the edge at the tip. Perhaps this developed because you were creating the video and it is not typical of your sharpening normally. For anyone who is learning to sharpen, the dip occurs because the sharpener is spending too much time on the nose of the tool, or applying too much pressure. It could even occur because you are repeatedly checking the nose angle when beginning, and have ground off the tip in that way.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I have all of my parts here in a box and about to delve into the wold of sharpening (after a lot more research on the sharpening system install and and more sharpening videos haha) Your video is my first (of many likely) and has me from bewildered to the beginnings of confidence so thank you! :) Oh, I ordered a gouge set not really knowing anything about anything. Turns out they are v-flute and I was moreso expecting/assuming parabolic. Do I need separate research for this flute shape/style you think or can the same principals apply regardless of flute shape??
I think the same sharpening principals apply. The flute serves the purpose of clearing the shavings. As long as you are able to obtain the desired profile at the front of the tool you will be fine. Best of luck on your journey!
Yes I do believe it matters. There is a recommended range. I don't remember the exact distance, but you can reference the Wolverine instructions online. Having the Wolverine jig mounted at the same height as the base of the grinder works really well.
Although I appreciate the learn. I however do not agree that you are double grinding the nose if you do one direction fully and then back to other side. Everything is covered once then a second time. Always end on a side that’s all. Thanks for your video. Liked it a lot. 👍🏻
Hi. Are you still on you tube? I have watched a thousand lathe videos and you rank #1 in my book as a great teacher. Please respond back and let me know. Thank you
Thank you very much for the kind words. I have taken a break from posting new videos for a while due to other commitments and activities. My intentions are to start posting again very shortly. Glad you enjoy the videos and find them helpful.
dave that was a great video,,im having a lot of trouble sharpening,,i need to regrind some of my tools to get them like this,,it helped a lot,,i wish you would put out a video on regrinding,,lol
Hi thank you for a great video it was a great help to me as I'm just starting out turning my friend gave me one of these jigs but the bar that sits in the v cup is missing I have no idea what he has done so I'm going to make one but I don't know how long to make it any help out there would be good Regards Steve UK London
I don't know exactly which part you are referring to. Are you saying that the leg of the jig that sits in the v-groove is missing. If that is the case I am sure that the manufacturer, One Way Tools, would be able to supply a replacement. The Wolverine sharpening system is a precision device and I don't know if you would be able to get the precision and repeatability that an original part would yield.
Recommended angle for the Elsworth Grind in this video is 55-65 degrees. The bowl gouge in the video was sharpened with to a 65 degree angle. Find this works best for me.
Thanks for the video! I have a new set of lathe tools and need to try to sharpen them so I can try to make bowls. This is most helpful. Does that tool fit on any grinding wheel like a Dewault? Thanks again!
It will work with grinding wheels that are 6 inches or 8 inches in diameter. 8 inch wheels are preferred as the smaller 6 inch wheels can induce a slight concave curve into the bevel due to the sharper outside curve on the wheel.
Hi Dave me again, I've seen gages to use for different turning tools, they are designed to use I believe in conjunction with the one way. Are you familiar with those? I was just wondering if they are helpful. Again thank you for the outstanding short no BS video. I now am a subscriber to your channel with likes and thumbs up.
I think I know the gauges that you are referring to. They work well and eliminate any of the guesswork when creating a specific angle. If memory serves me right there is something slightly different about setup that must be replicated each time but no big deal. You would also need a specific gauge for each desired angle you wish to grind. Certainly worth giving a try.
The bowl gouge is 1/2 inch and the angle is 60 degrees. For this type of grind they recommend anywhere between 55 and 65 degree bevel. I just split the difference.
Yes I own one. I only use it when I make miniatures and accents for my other turnings. A tool for delicate work. You may find you never need one but if you ever do it is a nice tool to have around.
My wings are convex. Look at the video at the 5 min mark. The sides bow out. If they were concave you would not be able to make contact with the blank.
Got it! I understand now. This happened to me when I first started sharpening my tool. It sounds like you are leaving the wings in contact with the wheel too long. The sides need much less contact then the tip. Try to re-sharpen and see how it works. I actually ground my first bowl gouge down learning how to do it right. That's why I post these videos....so that others have an easier time of it then I did.
Many people recommend sharpening turning tools with a slow speed grinder. Oneway, the manufacturer of the Wolverine system that I use recommends high speed grinding. The Delta grinder that I use is variable speed 2000-3400 rpm. I usually grind at about 2500-2900.
Dave, outstanding video. You dot all the eyes. Clear and consise. Easily understandable. Thank you. Job well done....
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Your videos have helped me a lot.
I want to thank you for your kindness and ask you to be very happy. Thank you very much.
Thank you for the kind words
Very informative and to the point without wasting time explaining. Thank you Roger Mize
Dave great video your explanation and how to method was really excellent. I am new to wood turning and this is going to be really helpful. Many thanks
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I was really struggling with this. Watched this once and pulled it off beautifully. Thank you, kind sir. 👍👍👍🇺🇸
Best Bowl Gouge sharpening video I’ve ever seen. Thank you for taking the time to explain the process.
Great video, thank you! Now I gotta get a jig like that, but first should figure out which is a bowl and which is a spindle!
Added your video on the spindle gouge and adding this one, too. Thanks for both! BTW, I noticed the grind on the right side (looking from the top) was shorter than the left side. Does it make any difference?
I have never had a problem. It's not an an exact science. If I notice things like that I just even it out on the next sharpening.
Thank you for taking the time to upload a nice clear video. I am concerned, however, that the gouge you show in the video has a severe dip in the edge at the tip. Perhaps this developed because you were creating the video and it is not typical of your sharpening normally. For anyone who is learning to sharpen, the dip occurs because the sharpener is spending too much time on the nose of the tool, or applying too much pressure. It could even occur because you are repeatedly checking the nose angle when beginning, and have ground off the tip in that way.
Good question. Beginner here: Does the cutting action take place on the sides or does the tip figure in to turning?
Thanks for sharing your experience! I have all of my parts here in a box and about to delve into the wold of sharpening (after a lot more research on the sharpening system install and and more sharpening videos haha) Your video is my first (of many likely) and has me from bewildered to the beginnings of confidence so thank you! :)
Oh, I ordered a gouge set not really knowing anything about anything. Turns out they are v-flute and I was moreso expecting/assuming parabolic. Do I need separate research for this flute shape/style you think or can the same principals apply regardless of flute shape??
I think the same sharpening principals apply. The flute serves the purpose of clearing the shavings. As long as you are able to obtain the desired profile at the front of the tool you will be fine. Best of luck on your journey!
Hi Dave,thanks for the video ,amazing edge&shape ,it is time now for jig making :)
I notice the grinding wheel is fixed to a wooden base. Does it matter how far below the base of the grinding wheel we fix the Wolverine jig system?
Yes I do believe it matters. There is a recommended range. I don't remember the exact distance, but you can reference the Wolverine instructions online. Having the Wolverine jig mounted at the same height as the base of the grinder works really well.
Excellent explanation, great video, thank you
Really clearly explained, thank you for going to the trouble Dave
Don't thank us we all need to thank you ! That was very helpful.
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awesome tutorial :) thank you
Dave you are tops !
Excellent video, thanks for posting
Although I appreciate the learn. I however do not agree that you are double grinding the nose if you do one direction fully and then back to other side. Everything is covered once then a second time. Always end on a side that’s all. Thanks for your video. Liked it a lot. 👍🏻
Hi. Are you still on you tube? I have watched a thousand lathe videos and you rank #1 in my book as a great teacher. Please respond back and let me know.
Thank you
Thank you very much for the kind words. I have taken a break from posting new videos for a while due to other commitments and activities. My intentions are to start posting again very shortly. Glad you enjoy the videos and find them helpful.
dave that was a great video,,im having a lot of trouble sharpening,,i need to regrind some of my tools to get them like this,,it helped a lot,,i wish you would put out a video on regrinding,,lol
Hi thank you for a great video it was a great help to me as I'm just starting out turning my friend gave me one of these jigs but the bar that sits in the v cup is missing I have no idea what he has done so I'm going to make one but I don't know how long to make it any help out there would be good
Regards
Steve UK London
I don't know exactly which part you are referring to. Are you saying that the leg of the jig that sits in the v-groove is missing. If that is the case I am sure that the manufacturer, One Way Tools, would be able to supply a replacement. The Wolverine sharpening system is a precision device and I don't know if you would be able to get the precision and repeatability that an original part would yield.
What angle would you recommend for a bowl gouge.
Recommended angle for the Elsworth Grind in this video is 55-65 degrees. The bowl gouge in the video was sharpened with to a 65 degree angle. Find this works best for me.
Thanks you for your advice.
why is it important how much sticking out off the jig?
Thanks for the video! I have a new set of lathe tools and need to try to sharpen them so I can try to make bowls. This is most helpful. Does that tool fit on any grinding wheel like a Dewault? Thanks again!
It will work with grinding wheels that are 6 inches or 8 inches in diameter. 8 inch wheels are preferred as the smaller 6 inch wheels can induce a slight concave curve into the bevel due to the sharper outside curve on the wheel.
@@daveswoodshop782 Thanks for the info! I have much to learn!
Hi Dave me again, I've seen gages to use for different turning tools, they are designed to use I believe in conjunction with the one way. Are you familiar with those? I was just wondering if they are helpful.
Again thank you for the outstanding short no BS video. I now am a subscriber to your channel with likes and thumbs up.
I think I know the gauges that you are referring to. They work well and eliminate any of the guesswork when creating a specific angle. If memory serves me right there is something slightly different about setup that must be replicated each time but no big deal. You would also need a specific gauge for each desired angle you wish to grind. Certainly worth giving a try.
what grit is your diamond stone ?
well done
I think it would better if the block of wood were open at the bottom of the hole to see if it is against it for sure.
Please, what angle and how wide it is chisel?Thank you!
The bowl gouge is 1/2 inch and the angle is 60 degrees. For this type of grind they recommend anywhere between 55 and 65 degree bevel. I just split the difference.
@@daveswoodshop782 Wonderful information . Thank you very much.
dave do you ever use a 1/4 bowl gouge,,i notice that they do make them but it seems kinda small for most applications
Yes I own one. I only use it when I make miniatures and accents for my other turnings. A tool for delicate work. You may find you never need one but if you ever do it is a nice tool to have around.
I have the hardest problem when I grind to get the wings concave,,,normally they come out convex,,can you help me,,
My wings are convex. Look at the video at the 5 min mark. The sides bow out. If they were concave you would not be able to make contact with the blank.
dave I think I got it wrong,,from the tip to the back of the wings it bows down leaving a sharp spot on the tip and the some on the wings,,
Got it! I understand now. This happened to me when I first started sharpening my tool. It sounds like you are leaving the wings in contact with the wheel too long. The sides need much less contact then the tip. Try to re-sharpen and see how it works. I actually ground my first bowl gouge down learning how to do it right. That's why I post these videos....so that others have an easier time of it then I did.
thanks dave I will try it,,
What is the speed of your grinder?
Many people recommend sharpening turning tools with a slow speed grinder. Oneway, the manufacturer of the Wolverine system that I use recommends high speed grinding. The Delta grinder that I use is variable speed 2000-3400 rpm. I usually grind at about 2500-2900.
what is the degree of the face of the gouge when finished?
The angle is 65 degrees. Anywhere between 55-65 degrees is normal for an Elsworth grind bowl gouge.
Thank you, that was an ahh ha moment for me