Am trying to imagine the effort involved in putting together this graphic. This had my 2 year old grand daughter transfixed. Well, at least for a while. What a wonderful way for gramps to introduce her to classical music in general and the great, great Ludwig Van in particular. Thank you very much. Much appreciated.
I recommend playing it at 1.25x speed. The base speed in this video is great at the powerful sections but otherwise sluggish, 1.25x speed gives it the energy it needs.
8:23 how did I never realize this a variation (or foreshadowing even) of the opening few notes of the fourth movement! Really its all over the movement. Amazing!!!! like 10:12
It played in the car radio en route to Edinburgh airport to Vienna. Then visited his grave & Beethoven Haus. My lifetimes ambition. Visited Schubert's, Brahm's & Strauss's graves also and there's a memorial of Mozart now in front of all of them now in Musician's corner in the Zentral Friedhoff, Vienna. Beethoven's music is a primary major influence throughout my life.
Man....did you ever pick a cool version. This is phenomenal. I kept searching for slower ones... people rush this. Never heard it like this... amazing...
I can listen to things I didn't exist thanks to the visual, it kind of improves the quality of the music! Our brain connect very well the visual and the sound together. Amazing job
Beethoven was a musical genius, a visionary way ahead of his time. For me 10:11-10:28 sounds almost like one of George Gershwin's notes. Very similar phrases can be also heard in his Pastoral Symphony.
I think I could listen to a 10h loop of the part between about 4:55 and 6:03. I just love this theme. Well, I love the whole piece really and now it looks as amazing as it sounds. Thanks so much!
+Penny Lane I thorougly agree with you. It's like coming into a clearing and feeling the warmth of the sun. I remember playing this part over and over again on my parents gramophon 'til I scratched it so badly that I was forced to purchase another record. Thats going back now 60 years!!
I appreciate and applaud this project. Your work is transformative! People with hearing impairments, learning differences and music lover's all over the WORLD will love this.
Hello stephan who makes these wonderful videos! I just want to say how very useful these are to me in my work as an orchestra conductor! When I know a movement of a symphonie by heart and want to reinforce my knowledge, I watch without the sound and the visuals remind me how it goes. Thanks!!! David
Happy new year smalin , i cant find a word that express my gratitude & joy for your endless works that makes the world a better place , wish you : joy , wealth , good health & eternal ever after happines .
from 4:55 is my favourite part of this piece, the whole 5th symphony is simply magnificent. I prefer a bit faster track though, I like the performance by Anton Nanut.
I loved this one. When the modulation comes and the theme is played by the brass, the mix of colors really nails the mood! And that got me thinking: have you ever thought of using color transparency, or its saturation, to represent dynamics? The more forte, the more present the colors would be. I can imagine it wouldn't be an easy task to get the individual instrument dynamics from the recording, but maybe scaling the effect based on the written dynamics would suffice.
I've tried it. It doesn't work reliably across a range of dynamics, because our hearing is context-sensitive. There's no simple mapping between saturation and loudness. If you use the range of saturation to cover the entire dynamic range, you can't see small distinctions (e.g. accented notes). I'm not saying it's an insoluble problem, but it will take work. If I had easy access to the data, I'd be more likely to work on it, but as it is, there are other problems that are just as interesting and easier to work on.
Como es usual, usted ha hecho una nueva obra de arte y técnica. Esto le ennoblece, pues ha hecho un nuevo tributo al arte en general y un homenaje a Beethoven en particular. Dios bendice a los que crean belleza y contribuyen a la elevación de la condición humana. Con mis mejores deseos, Angel Arévalo
Another amazing video, as always, but as I am wont to do, I must again ask you to reconsider your policy of either not selling your software or of not releasing your source code to the open domain, whichever you fancy more; you not only sit atop a gold mine but a mine of musical knowledge teachers and students and adults and children everywhere would love to partake, but who lack the computational skill to create this sort of program for themselves.
LordMarcusX All three (and more). Before I retired, I was in the software business, and I know that I don't want to get into it myself on my own. But I would like to have a hand in the design of a commercial version of my software, so I'm reluctant to release the source code to the public (though I would like the design to be "open" enough to allow third-party developers to extend its functionality). Also, my "grand vision" for the software includes the development of interactive real-time interfaces (as are currently being used in www.musanim.com/live/), so it would be good to work with an organization that had the scope to include that.
Jamal Corrie Why do you draw that particular conclusion? Why not instead conclude that human beings are capable of creating works of more immense beauty than you expected they could? Or that there is magic without "a greater being" existing? Or that you've had a mystical experience without any explanation?
smalin Maybe he's saying that it's possible that such an amazing and beautiful work of art must have come from the spark of God, or at least a Godlike being (Ode to Joy, anyone?). Or perhaps he just used a figure of speech.
smalin whatever art an individual creates is a reflection of the experience they are having inwardly through the power of their mind. Firstly, Beethoven's mind is absolutely exquisite and beyond any brilliance I can comprehend. But the spirit in which he envoke's his brilliance is of a very spirited nature. There is so much life, beauty, and love in this work. And I feel it being reflected so powerfully and accurately through his perfect mind. As I listen to this composition, those feelings are penetrated within myself like a mirror that reflects the light of the sun onto another mirror. The power of Love is not ours, it is something outside of us that we reflect. An individual can look at a flower and say "Wow! What a beautiful flower! It is so intricate and vibrant in its beauty." But to ignore that the flower gained its radiance from the power of the sun and the nurturing waters of the rain would be very limiting and possibly even free willingly ignorant. I hope I answered your question respectfully :)
Thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos! They're very wonderful, and inspirational for amature composers such as myself! I'm very eager to see the scherzo of this piece as well!! Just curious, do you plan on doing all of the Beethoven symphonies? I'm sure you'll eventually find your way to the Seventh due to popular request, but I would absolutely love to see a performance of the Forth. I find it to be somewhat of a hidden, or maybe overlooked, jewel of Beethoven's. It get's somewhat neglected being stuck between the Heroic Third and the Powerful Fifth, but I think it has one of the best Scherzos ever written, and when the repeat is recognized in the first movement, it can be very satisfying as well! Just curious. Anyways, thanks again. Appreciate all of the work!
CaptainFoxButt Ohohoh, I don't think you know smalin. Hell, he came up with this software after a psychedelic experience. If anyone knows about being high, it's smalin. On that note, I'd like to thank you (smalin) for this wonderful video.
CaptainFoxButt I've never conducted music while high. Have you? I've played music while high, but I didn't notice that it affected my tempo one way more than another (that is, slower or faster). I think it sometimes made music I was listening to (and not performing) seem slower, but I would expect that effect to cause a conductor to conduct faster (to compensate), not slower. So I wondered whether Trent had some evidence that high conductors have slower tempi.
How come you don't care for Mahler's music? I'd imagine the symphonies would fit perfectly with this kind of animation, or maybe with the kind that you used for Rite of Spring.
Hello everyone I am new to classical music i am trying to understand if the this piece is conjunct or disjunct / the dynamics and if the piece is polyphonic
This sounds a lot like you were issued homework and don't know what any of those terms mean. Am I close to the mark? Either way here's a very quick answer: There are multiple voices, so yes it's polyphonic. In this particular movement there are many diatonic passages and themes you could consider mainly conjunct, but there are also many moments of disjunction. In my honest opinion these two terms aren't very useful when describing classical music beyond very general statements. The dynamics range from very low to very high, changing frequently and suddenly in true Beethovenian fashion. Any deeper analysis than that I honestly can't be bothered with; this isn't my homework after all.
@@colynli2250 No, I have studied music theory but I have never heard these two terms (conjunct, disjunct) in relation to that before. I have also studied linguistics where the same two terms make a lot more sense.
+James Guthrie I don't know. The recording I bought was pirated (the people I licensed it from were swindled by the pirates). It might be the Tbilisi Symphony Orchestra, but I don't really know that for sure.
Great concept and a fascinating perspective! However, it is with great reluctance that I must admit I do not like this version. It sounds dead, passionless. It’s almost a cliché, but it’s truly a lifeless machine version. It’s soulless and it’s almost unbearable to listen to.
I love the small variation he makes with the strings in 11:00 - 11:03. I look forward to that part every time! :)
+Jacob Ian Flaherty Me 2
Un pur bonheur
We can hear Brahms here.
Absolutely fabulous. I could watch these for hours. My plan is to play these at my restaurant nonstop, as an alternative to sports tv.
Interesting plan. Where's your restaurant (what city)? I hope you'll report back on the results.
Never realized how much of a musical genius Beethoven was and still is.
This piece will forever hold a special place in my heart!
Exquisite. The chords are like tidal waves of feathers hitting my spine.
Am trying to imagine the effort involved in putting together this graphic. This had my 2 year old grand daughter transfixed. Well, at least for a while. What a wonderful way for gramps to introduce her to classical music in general and the great, great Ludwig Van in particular. Thank you very much. Much appreciated.
We're delighted that your two-year-old granddaughter is getting to watch this.
I recommend playing it at 1.25x speed. The base speed in this video is great at the powerful sections but otherwise sluggish, 1.25x speed gives it the energy it needs.
I think 1.25 or 1.5 would be great
8:23 how did I never realize this a variation (or foreshadowing even) of the opening few notes of the fourth movement! Really its all over the movement. Amazing!!!! like 10:12
Very nice find!!! That’s so cool
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2 flutes: Ellipse
2 oboes: Inverted ellipse (star)
2 clarinets: Octagon
2 bassoons: Inverted ellipse (star)
2 horns: Rectangle
2 trumpets: Rectangle
Timpani: Rectangle
Strings: Rhombus
woohoo! finishing up the 5th!!! i'm excited for the rest of it
It played in the car radio en route to Edinburgh airport to Vienna. Then visited his grave & Beethoven Haus. My lifetimes ambition. Visited Schubert's, Brahm's & Strauss's graves also and there's a memorial of Mozart now in front of all of them now in Musician's corner in the Zentral Friedhoff, Vienna. Beethoven's music is a primary major influence throughout my life.
Fantastic !
4:56 - 6:12 is so beautiful!
From 8:19 to 8:47, that is amazing. I need to loop that part for, like, 10 hours....YAAAAASSSSS!!!!!YAS BEETHOVEN YAAAASSSS!!!
In Wikipedia it says that this is a "La Folia" excerpt. I think it's a style of dance. Have fun!
You make it as enjoyable to watch, as to listen. thank you.
Man....did you ever pick a cool version. This is phenomenal. I kept searching for slower ones... people rush this. Never heard it like this... amazing...
mavaction nice noice
8:18 gotta love La Folia
9:08 highly emotional
10:09 this also sounds mysterious....
I can listen to things I didn't exist thanks to the visual, it kind of improves the quality of the music! Our brain connect very well the visual and the sound together. Amazing job
Yes, exactly. I started this project because I liked reading scores, and wanted to make it easier.
Beethoven was a musical genius, a visionary way ahead of his time. For me 10:11-10:28 sounds almost like one of George Gershwin's notes. Very similar phrases can be also heard in his Pastoral Symphony.
I think I could listen to a 10h loop of the part between about 4:55 and 6:03. I just love this theme. Well, I love the whole piece really and now it looks as amazing as it sounds. Thanks so much!
that sequence i've always thought is my favorite minute in classical music. how he could compose a piece that layered is beyond human comprehension
agreed!!!
Penny Lane I totally agree - I am completely fascinated by that part
And thanks very much to Smalin for this brilliant work
+Penny Lane I thorougly agree with you. It's like coming into a clearing and feeling the warmth of the sun. I remember playing this part over and over again on my parents gramophon 'til I scratched it so badly that I was forced to purchase another record. Thats going back now 60 years!!
One of the most greatest symphonies
11:29 to 11:58 is amazing!
I appreciate and applaud this project. Your work is transformative! People with hearing impairments, learning differences and music lover's all over the WORLD will love this.
They do! My videos are being used by music teachers around the world. Please help me share them.
Plaer this for my recital many moons ago. Absolutely adore this movement
8:18 "La Folia"
This is beautiful.
I love the yellow notes. Whenever there's a yellow note something interesting happens.
That's a D here :) I love the green notes (E).
Hello stephan who makes these wonderful videos! I just want to say how very useful these are to me in my work as an orchestra conductor! When I know a movement of a symphonie by heart and want to reinforce my knowledge, I watch without the sound and the visuals remind me how it goes. Thanks!!! David
Happy to be of assistance.
Happy new year smalin , i cant find a word that express my gratitude & joy for your endless works that makes the world a better place , wish you : joy , wealth , good health & eternal ever after happines .
lieber smalin ! Sie sind ein Genie !!
Thank you, smalin.
I've been waiting for this for a long time! Thanks smalin! It's Wonderful!
from 4:55 is my favourite part of this piece, the whole 5th symphony is simply magnificent. I prefer a bit faster track though, I like the performance by Anton Nanut.
Yes, that part is very nice.
Agreed!
That's my favourite part too!
Double Agree
10:43 la inspiración de los adagios románticos posteriores a su muerte, un grande
8:04 to 8:09 my fav part... Wanna loop it and listen over and over
This is my favorite part! 😊😊
Nah, I like the 3 and 4 better
Great video like always! Thanks for the upload :D
Here is my new response: to say thank you, please help me share my videos.
Divinity and Madness Begin at 7:53
and it carries on until the very end
Yes! Divinity and madness. Your intriguing comment made me go check.
Absolument
Thanks; it's magnificent!
Hard to come up with an energetic slow movement. This would be an exception!
I loved this one. When the modulation comes and the theme is played by the brass, the mix of colors really nails the mood! And that got me thinking: have you ever thought of using color transparency, or its saturation, to represent dynamics? The more forte, the more present the colors would be. I can imagine it wouldn't be an easy task to get the individual instrument dynamics from the recording, but maybe scaling the effect based on the written dynamics would suffice.
I've tried it. It doesn't work reliably across a range of dynamics, because our hearing is context-sensitive. There's no simple mapping between saturation and loudness. If you use the range of saturation to cover the entire dynamic range, you can't see small distinctions (e.g. accented notes). I'm not saying it's an insoluble problem, but it will take work. If I had easy access to the data, I'd be more likely to work on it, but as it is, there are other problems that are just as interesting and easier to work on.
Is this correct?
Red = C
Orange = G
Yellow = D
Olive = A
Green = E
Teal = B
Cyan = Gb
Azure = Db
Blue = Ab
Indigo = Eb
Purple = Bb
Magenta = F
Beethoven's 5th Symphony 2nd movement: The musical section which I like the most.
Grazie Smalin...pian piano li guardo tutti. Ciao
Como es usual, usted ha hecho una nueva obra de arte y técnica. Esto le ennoblece, pues ha hecho un nuevo tributo al arte en general y un homenaje a Beethoven en particular.
Dios bendice a los que crean belleza y contribuyen a la elevación de la condición humana.
Con mis mejores deseos,
Angel Arévalo
1:41 - 2:31 the best part
4:58
Una vez más: en una sinfonía, en su rica complejidad, se ve tu talento para ponerle "luz" a la música.
Thank you so much
I finally understand the meaning of the colors after a decade later...
That happens 😅
ah, I'm mesmerized :'>
Wonderful!
Stranieri, mi raccomando, usate sempre i termini in italiano quando vi occupate di musica classica - tempo, allegro, adagio, intermezzo, etc.
Another amazing video, as always, but as I am wont to do, I must again ask you to reconsider your policy of either not selling your software or of not releasing your source code to the open domain, whichever you fancy more; you not only sit atop a gold mine but a mine of musical knowledge teachers and students and adults and children everywhere would love to partake, but who lack the computational skill to create this sort of program for themselves.
If you can get a major software company (ideally, a video game company) to partner with me, I'll be happy to work with them.
smalin As publishers, coders, support providers, or some combiantion of two or the three?
LordMarcusX
All three (and more). Before I retired, I was in the software business, and I know that I don't want to get into it myself on my own. But I would like to have a hand in the design of a commercial version of my software, so I'm reluctant to release the source code to the public (though I would like the design to be "open" enough to allow third-party developers to extend its functionality). Also, my "grand vision" for the software includes the development of interactive real-time interfaces (as are currently being used in www.musanim.com/live/), so it would be good to work with an organization that had the scope to include that.
×1.25 speed fits well
Not bad but it is a little too slow
Would be better if slightly faster as it brings out the mood
This should be one of star wars tracks. Amazing
4:57 kicks off the brooding sublime
At 5:50 to 6:01 it sounds almost just like Vivaldi's "Winter". Has anyone else noticed this?
sound like lullaby
I realize now there is a God.
You mean, Beethoven?
smalin I mean the beauty of Beethoven's music is so immense that it makes it impossible for me to deny that a greater being exists.
Jamal Corrie
Why do you draw that particular conclusion? Why not instead conclude that human beings are capable of creating works of more immense beauty than you expected they could? Or that there is magic without "a greater being" existing? Or that you've had a mystical experience without any explanation?
smalin Maybe he's saying that it's possible that such an amazing and beautiful work of art must have come from the spark of God, or at least a Godlike being (Ode to Joy, anyone?).
Or perhaps he just used a figure of speech.
smalin whatever art an individual creates is a reflection of the experience they are having inwardly through the power of their mind. Firstly, Beethoven's mind is absolutely exquisite and beyond any brilliance I can comprehend. But the spirit in which he envoke's his brilliance is of a very spirited nature. There is so much life, beauty, and love in this work. And I feel it being reflected so powerfully and accurately through his perfect mind. As I listen to this composition, those feelings are penetrated within myself like a mirror that reflects the light of the sun onto another mirror. The power of Love is not ours, it is something outside of us that we reflect. An individual can look at a flower and say "Wow! What a beautiful flower! It is so intricate and vibrant in its beauty." But to ignore that the flower gained its radiance from the power of the sun and the nurturing waters of the rain would be very limiting and possibly even free willingly ignorant. I hope I answered your question respectfully :)
i cant hear anything worth it nowadays but Bach , Mozart and Beethoven ...Demigods
Don't forget that Haydn was the reason Mozart and Beethoven are good at making songs and compositions.
Well, one of the reasons
10:09 my favorite place
8:19 LA FOLIA 😍😍😍😍
What says the color and form of the figure? the note or the instrument, or what? Can you tell me? Thanks, very nice video!
Thanks!
Thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos! They're very wonderful, and inspirational for amature composers such as myself! I'm very eager to see the scherzo of this piece as well!! Just curious, do you plan on doing all of the Beethoven symphonies? I'm sure you'll eventually find your way to the Seventh due to popular request, but I would absolutely love to see a performance of the Forth. I find it to be somewhat of a hidden, or maybe overlooked, jewel of Beethoven's. It get's somewhat neglected being stuck between the Heroic Third and the Powerful Fifth, but I think it has one of the best Scherzos ever written, and when the repeat is recognized in the first movement, it can be very satisfying as well! Just curious. Anyways, thanks again. Appreciate all of the work!
Thanks. I expect to do more Beethoven symphony movements in the future.
I agree with you, classicalbevo, the fourth is the most underrated symphony. (this wasn't meant as trolling)
i'm genuinely curious as to whether the conductor was high when they made this recording (it's so slooooowwww)
Why do believe that people conduct more slowly when they're high?
smalin
You've obviously never been high, then.
Seems a perfect tempo to me.
CaptainFoxButt Ohohoh, I don't think you know smalin. Hell, he came up with this software after a psychedelic experience.
If anyone knows about being high, it's smalin. On that note, I'd like to thank you (smalin) for this wonderful video.
CaptainFoxButt
I've never conducted music while high. Have you? I've played music while high, but I didn't notice that it affected my tempo one way more than another (that is, slower or faster). I think it sometimes made music I was listening to (and not performing) seem slower, but I would expect that effect to cause a conductor to conduct faster (to compensate), not slower. So I wondered whether Trent had some evidence that high conductors have slower tempi.
it's like watching DVD
Oh no... The link to this version is dead. Where, who, when was this recorded. It's the best.
Sorry, I don't know (I've updated the FAQ).
Could you please make a video of some mahler piece?
See "Could you please..." in the FAQ.
How come you don't care for Mahler's music? I'd imagine the symphonies would fit perfectly with this kind of animation, or maybe with the kind that you used for Rite of Spring.
There's no accounting for taste.
Hello everyone I am new to classical music i am trying to understand if the this piece is conjunct or disjunct / the dynamics and if the piece is polyphonic
What do those terms mean?
This sounds a lot like you were issued homework and don't know what any of those terms mean. Am I close to the mark?
Either way here's a very quick answer:
There are multiple voices, so yes it's polyphonic.
In this particular movement there are many diatonic passages and themes you could consider mainly conjunct, but there are also many moments of disjunction. In my honest opinion these two terms aren't very useful when describing classical music beyond very general statements.
The dynamics range from very low to very high, changing frequently and suddenly in true Beethovenian fashion.
Any deeper analysis than that I honestly can't be bothered with; this isn't my homework after all.
@@ze_rubenator maybe conjunct
Are you studying this for music theory?
@@colynli2250 No, I have studied music theory but I have never heard these two terms (conjunct, disjunct) in relation to that before. I have also studied linguistics where the same two terms make a lot more sense.
Anyone else think this performance is a bit slow?
No.
0:39 :')
Yes. :')
08:19 copying from La Follia
4:58 Beethoven should have developed more this melody.
Dude, it's variation form - everything is developed throughout the piece :D
Don't criticize the great Beethoven!
It is a variation for main theme. Look at 00:05 - 00:30, it is same melody.
Though I may not fully agree it’s a good change of pace to see some criticism instead of what is often blind support
cette version est au mieux de l'eau tiède et au pire de la pisse d'âne
dislikers didn't have the patience to analize the color-patterns :)
What orchestra is this?
+James Guthrie I don't know. The recording I bought was pirated (the people I licensed it from were swindled by the pirates). It might be the Tbilisi Symphony Orchestra, but I don't really know that for sure.
Very slow! Normal tempo 92 😜
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1.25 speed is perfect
¸no way
Absolutely not, ruins the performance and the mood
@@jackcolson4745 nah it’s too slow, and most performances are too fast either. A lot seems to agree with this in comment, try it, it’s much better.
Great concept and a fascinating perspective! However, it is with great reluctance that I must admit I do not like this version. It sounds dead, passionless. It’s almost a cliché, but it’s truly a lifeless machine version. It’s soulless and it’s almost unbearable to listen to.
If you'd like to help me make a version with a better recording, please see this: www.musanim.com/Underwriting/
Agree. There are much better versions.
BAD PERFORMANCE!! :(
this is the best performance ever, by Vienna Orchestra
this is the worst movement the best is the 3rd
I beg to differ. The 1st provides the feeling of a storm, the 3rd maybe a dance or a transition to the victorious 4th. This one though, beauty.
sorta tru