Rosemary's Baby (1968) BETTER THAN THE EXORCIST? | First Time Watching
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Marital rape wasn't a crime until Nebraska passed the first laws against it in 1973. It didn't become a crime in all 50 states until 1993. In 1966 women were expected to give their husbands what they wanted, whenever they wanted it.
That's how my mom explained it. It's something you "let them do". YIKES. Glad I was born in this century.
A few trivia notes on uncredited casting: when Rosemary calls Donald Baumgard, the blindness stricken actor, the silky smooth voice on the line is the great Tony Curtis (Some Like It Hot, many many more). When Rosemary calls Dr.Hill in desperation from a public phone booth the vaguely sinister cigar chomping man outside is a producer cameo by William Castle, mostly famous as King of the gimmick B horror film like The Tingler and 13 Ghosts. Rosemary would be the most prestigious film he would ever be associated with by far. His reputation as a schlockmeister was so inhibiting the studio agreed to back the film on the precondition he NOT direct it.
Minnie Castavets was played by Ruth Gordon, who won an Oscar for her performance.
That’s awesome! She deserved it
@@KristinaHarrow Ruth Gordon is even BETTER in the classic movie “HAROLD & MAUDE”.
You need to remember that the Nazi Germany era was only a few decades ago from when this was made. Polanski suffered under Naziism and then Soviet occupation. Ira Levin who wrote the original story tends to make his evil characters as normal everyday people who could easily be your neighbors. In the 2000s, evil characters are more stereotypically evil-looking. But in the 60s, people realized that even their harmless looking neighbors might be part of an evil system of torture and murder as was the case in Nazi occupied countries and even in our own South where the Klan killed innocents and allowed evil and violence to flourish.
Mia Farrow’s nudity in this movie is almost certainly a body double. Unless you see the performer’s face, 9/10 times it’s a body double.
The sound???The sound is BAD???? THE SOUND!!!!!??????
OKay, people are entitled to their own opinions but not when they have a UA-cam channel and a platform; they have to defend bizarre, left field, opinions. The SOUND is bad?? Is it monaural? Is it fake stereo? What do you mean by the sound is bad? Are you saying that you can't understand the words?
Defend thyself!!
In reality, the Castevets did want Terry for a sexual affair.
Ooh, that’s so creepy knowing that!!
@@KristinaHarrow a sexual affair with the Devil.
The sound is bad? Wut? 😮
Yeah, that puzzled me too. She did react at one point by removing one earbud because something was too loud, but to me that doesn’t make the entire soundtrack bad.
Rosemary's Baby (1968) BETTER THAN THE EXORCIST?
for me , yes.
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I saw all three of the movies mentioned here, when they were newly released. I agree that "Rosemary's Baby" is by far the best of them. "The Exorcist" was hugely notorious at the time for its gore and violence, particularly because the lead character was a child. I thought "The Omen" was by far inferior to the other two films.
I enjoy the Omen the most, I think the Exorcist is by far the best movie of the three. Most people just never grasp that the Director of the Exorcist deviated from the book. He has the main story about the Priest, not the girl. Satan was after the Priests soul, not the little girls. When that finally registers people see the movie in a different light. It then becomes a battle between good and evil.
The only realism The Exorcist has, is Ellen Burstyn. For me, she is the best part in this movie.
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That's right. But you can't put RB in this horror triple. RB has no gore & violence, the genial story unfolds much more subtle, the camera work and the details (red herrings) are much better, thought out, and Rosemary is a much more complex character than the ambassador's wife (Lee Remick) in The Omen. Who dies.
Mia Farrow didn't die. 🙂
@@willemvandeursen3105 I personally like RB better, than the Exorcist, but I like The Omen best of all of them from a watching POV, that is why RB can never be on par with the Exorcist, it just kills way too much time, it should have been 20 minutes shorter, Polanski was that way. A lot of people get bored and turn it off.
I am speaking of watch points, I can watch the Omen every 6 months, I can watch the Exorcist every 3 years. I do not want to watch RB but every 5-7 years. I love Taxi Driver, but once you have seen it was the shock value is gone. Meanwhile I can watch Chinatown every month, Polanski was perfect on that one, but with the Pianist, he once again put forth a movie that went on way too long.
Its all subjective, but I have to enjoy a movie to watch it over and over. That's what I go by. Yes Casablanca is better that the Maltese Falcon, or the Big Sleep, but I would rather watch the later 2. They are just a joy to watch.
I'm 45-I was born in 1978-and I rank the three movies the same way you do: 1) Rosemary's Baby; 2) The Omen; and 3) The Exorcist.
The reasons for me are clear.
Rosemary's Baby is deeply disturbing on a psychological level. It's not about visual horror or scares that catch us off guard. There's little graphic violence, there aren't many scenes in which we are surprised by sudden loud music, and so on. The movie introduces us to a young couple who are in love in a setting in which a few things are off kilter, and we see early on that the husband is a self-centered narcissist and the wife is naive and a little too easygoing within the context of their relationship. When she does try to escape, every effort is futile. She is physically overwhelemed and has no way out. Those vulnerabilities are the basis for all the disaster that follows, and Rosemary's naivety makes her the proverbial frog in a pot that comes to a slow boil. By the time it's at full boil, there's no way out. And the movie leaves us wondering what exactly will become of them. It's likely that the husband will become a major star and Rosemary will choose to blindly raise an evil child and suppor the husband who is morally as much of a monster as the monster who fathered her child. The movie begins eerily and escalates psychologically through until the end and then beyond in our imaginations.
The Omen's narrative is less sophisticated, but I think the direction makes it nevertheless successfully unnerving. I think one of the strengths of the narrative is that it doesn't explain everything that happens-for example, the nanny killing herself 'all for you, Damien.' Damien's creepy, unaffected stare is enough to give us the creeps by suggesting he is not at all alarmed by any tragedy that occurs because of him, and he is the cause of them but he may still be too innocent to understand why those things are happening, just that they are happening because of him for some reason and he psychopathically is not disturbed by them, just an unfeeling witness to them. I think it's his disaffectedness that is most disturbing, although some scenes of horror-the decapitation of the priest in such a matter-of-fact and unassuming way, especially-are effectively horrifying and stuck with me.
I'm not Catholic, and I suspect that is a reason why The Exorcist isn't effective for me, but the movie never scared me at all. To me, it is campy and unintentionally silly because of the effects, the choice of how to depict the demonic voice, and the extremity of violence and vulgarity. There is nothing subtle in the movie. Beginning with the showing demonic relic 'fly' in spirit to Georgetown (which is one mile from where I live!) to the scenes of possession, it's probably mostly the direction of the movie that takes away its oomph for me. The movie's effects and violence and the aspects of the possession are so in your face that they become comedic for some of us. Not being Catholic or Christian, I don't have any fear of a demonic entity taking over my body, and with that fear removed, I can't relate to what I see onscreen as anything but a gory special-effects funhouse. Even if I overlook that, what exactly are the stakes of the movie? So a demon embodies a little girl...that is terrible for the girl and for the priests who try to intervene and are harmed, but in both Rosemary's Baby and The Omen, we can imagine that the child of Satan is meant to cause absolute devastation to humanity broadly. In The Exorcist, the demon seems to just be animalistically grotesque and curse a lot. The scale of tragedy is so much smaller. And then, finally, I have to say that knowing what we know now about so many Catholic priests' abuses of children, it's hard for me not to see some comic irony in the depiction of a demon using a child to torment Catholic clergy. The girl in the movie is innocent and she obviously does not deserve the physical and psychological traumas inflicted by the demonic possession, but the movie is not a true story, and countless cases of priests physically and emotionally harming chikdren for decades across the globe and the Catholic church always protecting the priests, while their victims grow up to live tortured lves and sometimes kill themselves, makes me see the demon's taunting of priests as justifiable in a way, and ironically mirroring their torment of a child and forcing them to see the harm they cause. So while I can view The Exorcist as metaphorically and ironically representative of terrors caused by Catholic culture, it doesn't come close to being as disturbing to me either in terms of narrative scale or direction as either Rosemary's Baby or The Omen does.
There's a reason Roman Polanski, despite his personal monstrosity, is the best known of all three movie directors.
Why would you think that a movie called "The Exorcist" would be entirely about a girl being possessed? The package could not have possibly been more clearly marked.
You're comparing three extremely well-regarded classics of horror. Everyone has their own personal favorite of them, so I'm pretty sure just the fact that you've seen and appreciate them all will mollify most defenders of the genre (and as far as seeing them, you're three movies ahead of me on that front😁).
Also, sidebar -- have you done The Shining yet? That's another critically beloved horror classic from about that time period.
Oh, and for the ending....that's just maternal instinct kicking in. I mean, even if it is a Satan baby, it's still a baby, and hers no less. (Plus, I wouldn't put it past the cult to work some hoodoo to influence her into wanting to raise it somehow. That one guy definitely had the calm voice of a hypnotist at the end, kwim?)
Let's hope so. Exorcist has quite the cult following.
I haven't done The Shining yet. It's on my list!
True and true!!!!
@@KristinaHarrow also, and I may have recommended this elsewhere, consider the movie Mama, with Jessica Chastain and Jamie Lannister. Really well acted with a sad but beautiful ending. Touches on the motherhood themes seen here and in Barbarian.
I’ve seen Mama! I LOVEEEE Jessica Chastain. I agree, there are similarities
Tim Daly figured out Andre Linoge's last name was an anagram for Legion in "Storm of the Century." He used those wooden alphabet blocks kids play with to figure it out. Kind of a nod to the Scrabble tiles Rosemary used to spell out Roman's real name!
The best American horror film.
It was so good! Just wish it wasn't by Polanski
@@KristinaHarrowUnfortunately, it wouldn't be the movie it is had Polanski not directed it. In the hands of a different director, it likely would have featured jump scare scenes with loud 'scary' music and even likely would have shown us a stupid looking 'devil baby' at the end.
I learned in my graduate creative writing program how useful it is to separate art from the person who creates it. My program director discouraged us from ever reading any biography of any artist who we admire because, he said, it will almost inevitably diminish the art because most artists are troubled and many are deeply disturbed people who hurt themselves and others. Hemingway, Picasso, and so many others were just awful, awful people who hurt others. Van Gogh, Woolf, Faulkner, Fitzgerald and others who may not have been cruel to others were still tortured and accidentally hurt others as they hurt themselves and their lives ended tragically. None of this puts these people on par with a sex abuser like Polanski, but a lot of artists who create great work are emotionally and psychologically disturbed in ways that hurt people intentionally or unintentionally, and ultimately, these people die and the brilliance of the work they create lives on without them. If the work itself, outside of the context of their actions and words, still moves people, then it has value even if the people who created it are gone and forgotten. No good comes from throwing away anything that moves people emotionally.
It's fine to forget the person who made the work and embrace the positive effect of the work itself.
Plus, if you must consider the people who made the work, consider that movies are unlike novels and paintings: Rosemary's Baby is not successful solely because of Roman Polanski. He had a major influence over the conception and creation of it, but movies are collaborative efforts, and you can still celebrate the work of Mia Farrow and the rest of the cast, the editors, the cinematographers, and the author Ira Levin, who wrote the actual story. It would be a shame to disregard or diminish their work because a bad guy was involved in bringing it to the screen.
Very much loved this film! Cannot comment because Michael Nolan nails it!
I saw this film as a kid and that last scene...
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I think the volume problem is watching a DVD or maybe streamed movie at home. When it is broadcast on TV those dynamic lows and highs are always compressed to sound more reasonable.
My feeling after watching this movie is helplessness and abandonment. To be in the world that everyone is with the devil makes me badly hopeless.
Yeah, it leaves you with a sense of not great feelings
Hi Kristina! This movie has always resonated with me, not only because it's a classic examination of paranoia (what if everyone you care about is secretly evil and means you harm?) but because the disgusting husband in the film seems like an expy for Polanski himself. ( I wonder how intentional that was, and how much of himself Polanski recognized in Guy Woodhouse?) You are right in this being a slow burn, straightforward story. For me the lasting horror comes from Rosemary's acceptance at the end of the new reality that that other people -that she knows are her enemies - have chosen for her.
It's of course always great to see Cheddar make an appearance, he has a great smile!
Michael, you always have the best comments. Lol
Ohh yeah, paranoia but accurate paranoia! The husband was absolute trash. So disgusting. Polanski probably did add a bit of himself into the character, the sick fuck.
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Polanski was a disgusting husband? What are you babbling about? He had just married Sharon Tate, they were famously in love, she got pregnant right after the movie and then the Manson family murdered her. I guess the footage of him practically unable to stand, answering the most disgusting questions from the press, isn't good enough for you, huh? The guy must have felt cursed as his entire family had been taken away and sent to Auschwitz, never to be seen again. You strike me a priggish jackass who has no undestanding of the 70s. I sure hope you're making the same digs at Jimmy Page and David Bowie and Iggy Pop and Mick Jagger, all who are known to have played around with 13 year olds, 14 year olds (Lori Maddox, Sable Starr, McKenzie Phillips, et al)). Hell, Lori Maddox was Jimmy Page's groupie squeeze all through the 70s and has bragged about it ever since. Get off your high horse. People like you are why that girl is forced to be FRIENDS with Roman Polanski to this day!
I can't watch this without thinking of another Polanski movie "The Pianist". It's about the Warsaw Ghetto in Poland where Jews were locked up, and eventually were either shipped by train to death camps or killed in the ghetto. The movie follows a real pianist who was there, but Roman Polanski, who is Jewish, was also sent there with his family when he was five. His parents managed to smuggle him out, but they all died there. The worst thing is not just that the Germans came in and did this when they invaded Poland, but that the local people, their former neighbors, often went along with it. They got to move into the Jewish people's homes, and keep anything the Nazis didn't take. "Chinatown" is another movie by him, also with plenty of paranoia and people who aren't what they seem and can't be trusted. Although someone made the observation that it's not paranoia if they are really after you!
@@krisaaron8180 Fantastic movie.
It's a slow burn, you slowly start to suspect something is wrong, but you don't know what, and the horror is in the fact that Rosemary has no way to really get away, even when she does realise something is very wrong. In the 60s doctors were legally allowed to withhold information from their female patients and only talk to their husbands for example, so dr Hill simply called Guy and let him take Rosemary away. Her close friend Hutch dies, her other friends seem more casual, and Guy clearly tries to keep Rosemary away from them and calls them b*tch3s for daring to care about Rosemary's health and well-being. So anyone Rosemary turns to either ends up dead, manipulated by Guy and the coven, or is part of the coven already. She doesn't have anyone to turn to.
Guy is such an abusive a-hole. "you haven't been hurt, really" or "it was fun in a necrophilic kind of way" 🤮 he clearly doesn't care at all about the person he is supposed to love, in fact I'd say he hates her, and/or doesn't even consider her a human being. He just oh so casually admits to SA-ing her, offers up his wife as payment for getting roles and fame, allows her to be SA-ed by the literal devil, when she is in pain for months and months he doesn't even care at all, when her health is clearly bad, he forbids her from going to a doctor that could help her, he gaslights her about everything, alienates her from anyone who could help, helps kill her friend, and then has the absolute gall to declare she wasn't hurt. Even before the whole coven and deal with the devil bit, he dismisses her ideas, when she's clearly smart and observant, he barely listens to her. I don't think he gives one sh!t about her at all.
If you compare this to an abusive relationship (which this is too, just with a coven/cult, devil, and magic involved as well) it's not all that different, gaslighting, SA, alienating from friends, making sure the victim has no other way out, baby trapping her...
If you enjoyed this story, you might like "the Stepford wives" as well. Based on a book by the same author who wrote Rosemary's baby. The remake from 2004 goes for comedy, which makes the tone so weird to me, and changes the ending completely, which takes the horror out of it. The 70s version does have that 70s audio (and video quality), but it captures the paranoia and suspence and horror much better. The story of the Stepford wives is not a comedy, so I don't really like the 2004 version.
Dropped the phone.
The SOUND IS BAD??? To paraphrase Peter Pan attacking Captain Hook, "Have at thee, dark and dangerous woman!"
If you liked the movie, you really need to read the book “Rosemary’s Baby” by Ira Levin, which came out in 1967 and is still available. Polanski didn’t realize that because Paramount studios had bought the rights to the book that the studio could do as they wished with the story, so he kept the story and the dialogue as close as possible to the book. When he was done editing the movie the first time, it was over 4 hours long. But the studio made him cut it down to a little over 2 hours. The book is excellent because it answers all the questions about things that didn’t make sense to some people in the movie (like Rosemary’s dreams and hallucinations), and it gives much more detail about the characters.
There is a part 2 to the movie called “Look What’s Happened To Rosemary’s Baby”, it was a 1976 made for American television movie that might be one of the worst movies ever made, it’s on UA-cam, so if you stumble across it you might want to avoid it. On the other hand, if you’re someone who loves REALLY bad movies, you’ll love it.
Nice, thanks for the info. I’ll have to check it out!
The book and the movie are the only example I know of where you can simultaneously read the book page for page as you follow along with the movie and they will be in synch towards the end.
@@KristinaHarrow Don't forget his other novel, "The Stepford Wives." If you watch the movie, stick with the original.
I agree with the list. I also love Breakfast At Tiffanys and Barefoot In The Park, great 60s films
I agree with your 1,2,3 ranking.
Thank you!!!
I like it better than The Exorcist, absolutely. I'm not big on the first half of the Exorcist. I love some of the slow burn, but I find some of it a little drawn out, as was Friedkin's style at the time (I have the same problem with his previous film The French Connection). I don't love all the Lee J. Cobb stuff (the detective), I don't love the big opening in Iraq. "Rosemary's Baby" on the other hand is a perfect movie. I love the cinematography in both, but Polanski is the superior director, by far. (I like Friedkin, though, don't get me wrong). Acting is great in both, but my fave performances are both from "Rosemary's Baby": Ruth Gordon and John Cassavettes are both fantastic in this movie.
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What was the third movie you mentioned at the start? I thought Smile was a good movie, maybe even better than good,
I was too young to see the exorcist when it was first released to the cinemas. But I read about the reaction to it. People fainting, throwing up etc etc. When I finally did see it, (probably in the 80's ) I was let down. I thought it was a good movie with some tense scenes. But it would not go in my top ten greatest horror movie list. Top 50, or top 100. maybe.
I did not find scary or shocking. and I was raised a good catholic. ☺. Some time back it was rereleased to the cinemas with the spiderwalk sequence put back in. I went to see it on the big screen and had much the same reaction. I did think the spiderwalk was the best part.
By coincidence I am currently watching a korean drama series on the theme of exorcism called The Guest, which so far is excellent.
I find Rosemary's Baby totally unnerving. It keeps you in it's grip.
Thank you. I agree with your rankings except I wouldn't include the Omen as anything but just another slick Hollywood horror movie, seen and forgotten.
I've seen RB at least a dozen times but the last two it was with the knowledge that in 1968, RB played in Europe as a social comedy, a satire! Once I heard that, I rewatched it twice with that in mind. I can see how it could go the way of Dr Strangelove or Holiday or Funny Games. The presence of Ruth Gordon and Sidney Blackmer and especially Patsy Kelly certainly helps. And Mia Farrow was so good and subtle that her child-like naivete could be taken as over the top. John Cassavetes was tremendous as usual, and his villainy could hit at face value or be slyly satiric.
In spite of Polansk's genius, his great screenplay/adaptation, and the great acting and cast, the movie lives or dies with Mia Farrow. She's in every scene, and by God I thought she put that huge movie on her fragile shoulders and carried it and the cast and crew down the field and over the finish line. But she's a quirky actress, ethereal, frail, and waspier than Grace Kelly. She's not everyone's cup of tea, and responses to her are personal and unquantifiable, so if someone doesn't like this movie, it probably means they had a problem with Farrow. It's easy to say no to her since she's definitely not suited for every part despite her talent; try to say no to Faye Dunaway (from the same time period) and she'll bust your jaw, regardless of whether or not you think she's right for the part.
I love your enthusiasm for film :) and thank you for agreeing with me about this and Exorcist. Oooo you should see the comments on that video
@@KristinaHarrow thx! I have a passion for movies made between 66 & 77, especially Polanski, Friedkin, Bogdonavich, Ashby, & Landis.Under the studio system, I'll put Howard Hawks up against anyone - why HUAC ignored him is beyond belief; Hawks savaged middle class values (esp. marriage) and any institution that supported said values with a viciousness that catches you off guard. But he couched his invective in wit, donnish humor, and screwball comedy.
He's also THE smuttiest director of the studio system. How did he get away with the opening lines of Bringing Up Baby?????
@@KristinaHarrow Another thing I have an intrigue about is the bizarro world of YT reactors. From them you'd think.Emma Stone, Ryan Gosling, Will Ferrell, Helen Mirren, Naomi Watts, Nicole Kidman, Anchorman, Juno, Brokeback Mountain, Crash, the Help, Moonlighting, Moonlight, French Connection, Blow-Up, Bonnie&Clyde, Citizen Kane, On the Waterfront, His Girl Friday, Rio Bravo, All the Presidents Men, Woodstock, Gimme Shelter, George C. Scott, the Changeling, Absence of Malice, the Flim-Flam Man, Who's Minding The Mint? No Way To Treat A Lady, The Mephisto Waltz, A Touch of Class, George Segal, Glenda Jackson, A Taste of Honey,.Alain Delon, xxxby Jean-Pierre Melville, Children of Paradise, xxxby Antonioni, the Man Who Would Be King, Zulu!, Zulu Dawn, Go Tell The Spartans, Funeral in Berlin, Coming Home, Un Flic/A Cop/Dirty Money, Man's Favorite Sport?, xxxby John Huston/Otto Preminger/Hal Ashby/Monte Hellman, Medium Cool, where are all these?
Who knows where they are. Instead we have 397 reactions to the Thing, 423 reactions to The Exorcist, 1??? reactions to A few Good Men, Countless plus one reactions to Kubrick&Hitchcock, UA-cam's pitiful ideas of geniuses, a,million reactions to the sexist pro-RAPE Young Frankenstein by Mel Brooks, UA-cam's house comedian. Who happens to be Jewish. In case you forget he reminds you every twenty minutes in his films. Which stink.
Where IS the bulk of American movies? Why does UA-cam stick to such a small group? Do YOU know why?
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I love this movie. I watch your video 2,3 times a month.
The sound? Huh? That always throws me.
The word "bitch" used here hits like a slap in the face but is used in movies and by reactors like "woman" or "girl".But watching this, those same reactors flinch as if they'd been hit. Guy was just ahead of his time.
I know so many women STILL into Dylan and his paternalism/sexism. I'd love for Rosemary to be a Dylan girl and play Blonde On Blonde and "Just Like A Woman" a lot. Did she "break just like a little girl" at the end?
The ending was absolutely true to the time, to the age of Paranoia and No Happy Hollywood Endings. Any other ending would've been a betrayal. It HAD to be this way OR a hallucination, since atheists are as unbelieving in Satan as they are of God.
Once again Polanski hits it out of the park; a horror movie that looks like a Hallmark Channel movie.
Your ranking is fair, but I disagree. I would put The Omen as #1 over Rosemary’s Baby #2 because I like the storyline better. The Exorcist #3 is considered the scariest movie of all time, but I think it’s more shocking and disturbing than full on scary. I like The Exorcist, I just like these two more.
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Why is it that people who blithely and carelessly and thoughtlessly use the word 'bitch' to describe anyone female lose their minds when Guy uses it?? REAL QUESTION.
This was Harrowing
I see what you did there…and I love it 😂