I can't figure out if I like this Zeihan guy or not. He's obviously incredibly intelligent but he also always seems to speak with a sense of "knowing". Like he knows 100% for sure these things. That always is kind of a red flag to me.
His figures for force numbers in Iraq were what got me doubting a lot of his "knowledge". At the peak of the "surge" there were 170,000 US forced alone,not counting the forces of other nations.
He makes truthful or knowledgeable-sounding second-tier statements, like knowing names or events/dates. Combined with the utmost confidence you'd mentioned, he then links these statements into ridiculous assertions that have very little to do with reality or basic logic. But hey, it sounds good and people eat it up. I mean yeah, "Russia's about to invade NATO." LOL... Oh gevalt. This guy's a total hack. A very skillful purveyor of utter bullshit.
I take his voice as opinion. However he at least does some background research with his opinion. So it’s opinion with logic backed by some data but without a team to look at other angles and probabilities. for me he condenses some data but is like looking for information in Wikipedia - you use it as a starting point but you would not include it in a report as a reference.
Me too. I have the feeling that like... "why isn't this the lens we see things through anywhere else? Why is this guy not all over the news? It makes so much more sense!" but then I have to be like... where's the counter narrative to this? Just in case I'm missing something.
@@MobiusCoin He's good. But he's affected and speaks at hypersonic speed. Might be more well known if he bothered to enunciate. Plus with Scott Ritter commenting every day, Zeihan doesn't stand a chance with what's really happening on the ground in Ukraine. Zeihan seems to be relying on Western media. (Who knows, I'm no expert). I watch The Duran. You may want to check it out Mobius.
You are missing a few things: Ukraine provides grain and oil (47% world markt share for sunflower oil) for a significant part of the world and does also have gas ressources that have been found in the last years. When the war is over then Ukraine can supply itself with gas instead receiving it from the remains of Russia and will also still be a supplier of food for the world. Additionally, when the country is rebuilt UA can get rid of some old legacy stuff in their infrastructure and may (!) become one of the most modern country. If I remember right then one reason why the us electricity system is crumbling compared to the european (especially austria and germany) system is that after WW2 that system was completely rebuilt while the US has old stuff and structures in use (not sure about that).
i also just started watching this video, but wont happen cuz dud will need to contradict half of stuff he said there as 100% fact lol He bullshited over 50% of what he said in this kind of videos Russia and Russian ppl are fucked up for decades cuz of this war.. there is no way around that, dude overshootted a lot of stuff also
I’m watching this 12 months later and Russia is mired in a war that they are on the edge of loosing. I haven’t checked for an update on this but I’m going to.
LOL... "this is probably wild speculation".... and that yankee "expert" is talking about education in Russia?!?!?! LMAO best look at the dumbing down in murica.... Meanwhile, back in the real world, most of the world is dumping the dollar and Russia now has NO dollar "assets" ... Well with sanctions to the left, embargoes to the right and blaming everyone else for their criminally insane ponzi economies and military messes... oops, make that "spreading freedumb and demonocracy"... don't these nato creeps and their bitch slapped stooges realize that all their pathetic puerile tantrums do is show just how fracked up, broke and desperate the "united" states of murica and king-CONNED-om really are?
I'd never seen Peter Ziehan until recently. I've been mainly reading and following Mark Blyth the political-economist from Brown U. Peter seems to cover a lot of the same stuff but from the perspective of someone who's concerned about the demographics and how that affects the political landscape while Mark looks at the interactions between economics and the political landscape. Interesting they both have almost the same assessment of Bitcoin and Crypto in general. But I will say this (as I am an engineer) they get their engineering wrong at times, but its mainly in details only an engineer will pick up. I sort of doubted the population of those countries Putin wants control of. They weren't quite right its NOT 300 million its just under 270 million.
He’s about 50% right about any and all details about Russian life internally . I grew up in the Soviet Union in the 1980s . One big correction on education : you tested out of high school on your major passport exam if you didn’t do well you qualified for a technical school if you did very well you got the red passport and got to go to a university and science , if your family was connected you got to go to a political major focus to be a party member or of some sort. If you dropped out there was vocational stuff like military , forest service , border etc .
43:00 Re: Taiwan. China invading will make Iwo Jima look like a cakewalk with attrition decimating Xi’s forces more than Putin’s folly. Plus, TMSL will never flourish under PRC control.
People only want to hear what they want to believe. This was how Trump got elected, so there are at least 74 million clueless voters in the U.S.. I'm not giving liberals a pass, either: far too many know practically nothing about worldwide politics, geography, or economics. The U.S. educational system isn't designed to educate it's citizens; it's designed to make people into obedient, at least minimally competent workers for the corporations. That's why those important subjects aren't taught in public schools.
@@youtubeoppressivecensorshi8047 That's a fair point, he leans hard on the geographic determinism and demographic pyramids because they are true, irrefutable, and strongly support his conclusions. Other factors that I would like to see more clearly are business structures and where other soft / cultural factors matter.
He certainly presents himself as such, and he does back it up with the knowledge of names and their holders' positions, but you can easily take apart practically every single one of his major assertions, which only sound plausible because they're linked together into a narrative by true (minor) statements. I mean, it's a rarity to hear an overarching narrative that's so ridiculously far removed from reality or basic logic. The man's a hack. A very successful and highly compensated one (because he pushes a story whoever pays him approves) but a total hack nonetheless.
LOL... "this is probably wild speculation".... and that yankee "expert" is talking about education in Russia?!?!?! LMAO best look at the dumbing down in murica.... Meanwhile, back in the real world, most of the world is dumping the dollar and Russia now has NO dollar "assets" ... Well with sanctions to the left, embargoes to the right and blaming everyone else for their criminally insane ponzi economies and military messes... oops, make that "spreading freedumb and demonocracy"... don't these nato creeps and their bitch slapped stooges realize that all their pathetic puerile tantrums do is show just how fracked up, broke and desperate the "united" states of murica and king-CONNED-om really are?
If you're still clicking on legacy corporate media in 2022, you're probably not far from moving into a nursing home where someone else will just turn on a random channel and you can sit there and nap with your mouth open until meds time.
Propaganda, still brainwashing Americans that they will not suffer the consequences of any of their actions, including weaponising the dollar. You are telling the American public that nothing is going to happen to their dollar. Well I hope the BRIC countries succeed in creating a new currency so America can continue to print their dollar to feed their Military Industrial complex to bully, threaten, destroy and dominate the rest of the world for ever. The rest of the world is waking up to the fact they cannot trust America anymore. All America want is to keep up dominating the world until they become desperate and stupid to result in the use of Nuclear weapons as they did in Hiroshrima and Nakasaki in Japan. This time, Russia got nuclear, and no body is going to escape the fall out if America tried it again. Even some rich Americans who are building themselves underground bunkers can not live there forever. Let the world have peace, live, and let live America. God saves the world from greed and war mongering.
Great interview, great questions. I follow Peter quite closely so it's great to hear him get challenged from as many angles as possible in order to get more idea about how he grounds his arguments.
I agree I disagree they use nuclear weapons just because we confront them with the military or navy. Breaking the blockade is nessary prevent starvation and raising prices
@@JordanHarbingerShow Good that Peter was incorrect about the willingness of the West to help Ukraine with heavy weapons. It would be super cool if you could get Peter again to talk with him what he thinks will happen now. As the sit. he described didn't come exactly to pass like this.
@@Loki1191 When asked that question 11 years ago, he was pretty convinced that NATO would need to provide material support, if not direct boots on the ground. But he basically outlined what everyone is talking about now, 11 years ago.
Would like to have you get him back on your show for an update now that continued, unprecented strength in the Ukrainian forces and continued weakness in Russian forces has seemingly tipped the balance in Ukraine's favor.
I love Peter but he does have a script(s) and many ready answers. He is extremely difficult to trip up. The thing I like the most about Peter is that he will change his analysis once he absorbs and processes new evidence.
@@Cubcariboo yes, I've also noticed that...well, once you've written a book(s?) about it, it's understandable. I think that's exacerbated by the fact that there are multiple channels that have cut from his original presentation(s?) and posted videos on their respective channels. So when you wanna get a taste of what new stuff the man has to say you get the same thing and think to yourself hmm this sounds like the same thing again. But hey, that's just my two cents
Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts. Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic. The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days. America is oh-ver!
Interesting point of view.I would like to have him (Peter Zeihan) discussing this topics with Noam Chomsky, John Mearsheimer and others, who having a different opinion about this bloody conflict.
Interesting discussion but all have been deeply wrong about recent events. It is almost a year now and Ukraine is surviving. Chomsky is sometimes interesting but his anti-US bias hinders his ability to go into just how bent on aggression leaders of other nations can be. Mearsheimer has increasing drifted into an being a Putin apologist after writing that Ukraine should not give up its nukes.
Ive been following Peter for years. No doubt hes smart but hes also very glib and not always right. Many have underestimated the Russians but time will tell. I suspect he would have predicted the Americans winning the Vietnam War back in the day.
Peter is someone I follow avidly. Always thought provoking but does not mean I agree with his point of view entirely. Jordan as always has done his homework and draw out as much as he can from his guest. A must-follow channel/stream for me
46:00 When I was working on some products here that bought microcontroller boards, programmed them, embedded them in a product, and sold them, the company that sold us those boards moved their manufacturing from Asia to Mexico. The products themselves were well made enough, but they kept missing steps in the process, some boards wouldn't have the calibration done properly, some boards wouldn't have the firmware loaded, etc. Hopefully they've improved that since then, because it was a major pain to do the calibrations ourselves. It's possible that it was just due to teething problems in the transition though and that they sorted it out, but moving supply chains around like that always have some issues in the transition.
I wonder if those companies could have provided better education and training for creating those boards but were more concerned with profits in the short term. It would benefit and U.S. and Mexico if business put in the effort to train and educate Mexicans. There would be fewer immigrants because the Mexicans could get jobs at home. But corporate and Republican greed...
That podcast is a masterclass on the folly of trying to predict the future, no matter how smart you think you are,or how confidently you make your predictions.
Jordan, Very impressed with both your knowledge and deference. You should latch on to this guy and make this a recurring interview/update. I watch some UA-cam videos and think "I will never get that 73-minutes back". I feel like I gained a few years of life tonight. Excellent interview.
I am curious to know what Peter Zeihan's definition of a Russian "win" is with the passing of 122 days of war. Any thoughts? And comparing the death toll tolerance of a 1918 Russian citizen, considering how much information was available to them, to that of a present day citizen was a bit odd.
@@theselector4733 I would like to hear it. Sometimes people have a gap in their knowledge, or there is another interpretation that would also work given some hard evidence. From what I know of the situation, which is relatively limited, there simply aren't that many folks in Russia with an outward facing view of the world, with other language skills, specifically English language skills, who can bridge the information gap and get a view of what is happening from the Western side of this in our balkanized internet. While they may not believe the party line, it may be far enough away that they are not getting involved, kind of like how the average US citizen didn't really follow Afghanistan despite 20 years of "war." Mobilization changed things, obviously, but not enough to shift the outcome or the primary direction.
Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts. Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic. The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days. America is oh-ver!
Yes. Also, Russia's loss of ten thousand men in Afghanistan helped to bring down the Soviet empire in the '80's. Now 'he who sh*ts himself' is looking at losing over 10 TIMES that IN ONE YEAR! Stay away from windows, Poopy pants!
This is on par with a college course. I will be watching more and more of this channel, and I will buy "The Absent Superpower..." and start reading asap.
Are you kidding? It's peurile and dishonest. Try Douglas MacGregor. Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts. Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic. The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days. America is oh-ver!
Interesting how predictions can fail. The show was aired in April 2022. Now it´s almost Nov 23. Still not 1 mio RUS soldiers in Ukraine as Zeihan predicted and though fertilizer prices surged (started already before 2022) a severe worldwide shortage of fertilizers didn´t set in. Ukraine still stands and in every aspect RUS gets weaker by the day. Zeihan is an interesting person. His extensive knowledge is complemented by a high degree of self-assurance. This is the recipe for overshooting the mark here and there in terms of predictions. However Zeihan serves food for thought.
Zeihan knows a lot of stuff. At least it seems so. That's what you need in order to have enough "dots" to connect in a meaningful way. What he says about demographics, geography, economics, the history of Russia, etc., makes sense. At least to me, but then I don't know a lot of stuff. Anyway, it's fascinating to listen to. Maybe what he's been saying about Russia, China, etc. is on the mark. In any case, we'll know within a decade whether or not his predictions are accurate. Good podcast by Jordan Harbinger. Thumbs up!
PLEASE have Peter back on the show to update this, now that a long war, in Ukraine and funded/supplies by the West, seems likely. Or, does anyone know where Peter talks/writes regularly?
Really interesting to re-analyse the points made in this programme after the benefit of nine months of hindsight. While Russia hasn't yet lost the war, the Ukrainians have nevertheless made unbelievable gains in the face of such a numerous and apparently massively armed foe. The only thing that defies belief is the indifference of the Germans to the Ukrainian lives expended to save European skins.
Amazingly, they were "gassed" by aerosolized Fentanyl. Sent in a concentrated aerosol through the HVAC/Heating duct system. People sitting close to the outlets got high doses and died quickly. Why do I know these things? Because I am military trained anesthesiologist who used IV Frntanyl on a daily basis. Long before the current Chinese/Mexican Cartel/US smuggling operation. Of the last one or two decades or so. This was actually a great plan. But they forgot the second part. Every attacker and a ton (hundreds) of pretrained EMS responders with obviously identifiable badges/jackets. Should have been given many syringes full of Naloxone that reverses the severe respiratory depression caused by Fentanyl overdoses. Minimal training would be required. After the relatively small number of terrorists were disabled/killed. Any hostage without a gun or bomb should have been immediately injected under their tongue with a standard dose, needle size/length. In addition , an intramuscular (thigh or sboulder) injection should have been given to everyone as Naloxone last less time than high dose Fentanyl. They could have probably saved 80-90% of the affected hostages. This was not done. The few EMS people there were not aware that a narcotic like Fentayl was used. Or that Naloxone would treat what they were seeing. This needed to occur immediately as most of the hostages were no longer breathing. 5 minutes is probably too late. In my experience, soldiers or minimally experienced EMS people, or civilian volunteers may be hesitant to inject people. Tell them that Naloxone OD is Impossible in that situation. They just need to avoid the eyeballs which is intuitive. My approach has been to tell them that they cannot make a mistake and kill the patient/hostage. They were already dead. So all they could do was to be a hero and savior. This tends to cutdown on any hesitation. After all, everybody wants to feel like they are a hero. Almost everybody.
Just because a Russian head of state security desires to secure 9 regions historically suceptible to invasion does not mean a people with the GDP of Belgium can expand to the historic boundaries of Catherine the Great against unwilling opponents. Recent weaknesses displayed by the significant Russian invasion forces in Ukraine demonstrate that Russia would have a hard time in a limited conventional war with even only regional NATO powers on location now . Russian conventional forces would likely be destroyed rapidly like Iraqi forces were in the first Gulf War if facing a NATO opponent.
They spend disproportionately on military equipment that would normally be spent on domestic programs and infrastructure. Russia has always been weak in those areas, and then expands and contracts in those spaces based on blowing their resources on military, which then causes internal political-economic collapse inward. After each collapse, they rebuild the military and then go take back those places at great loss, hold them for a while at great financial and resource costs, then collapse again. This has been true despite Czars, Soviets, or Kleptocrats. We're just watching the latest expansion campaign.
@@LRRPFco52 If you are an indefensible flat fertile plane that is regularly & easily overrun & impregnated by every neighbor with a population explosion, you develop into a different people (lower in Maslow's hierarchy) than if you are smug, safe, orderly and fat (and regularly lament your individuation struggle to your Jungian therapist). Siciliy is another region that has an unusual hidden culture of protection. To some degree Stroudsburg/Straussburg and the Alta Addigio/Lower Tyrol have unique local self- protection schemes. When you've been subjugated by cruel barbaric overlords like the Mongols for 5 generations you learn a few nasty habits & tricks. Seems both human and inevitable. Are we going to accept and work with them or keep sending disrupting democracy evangelists who present ideas of chaos & disorder, when they crave self-determination, safety, food and defensible borders above all? And how different does the US military actually look to them from any other poised Mongol, Turk, Goth, French, German, communist, Prussian, Swede, Khan, Hun, Slav, Viking, Arab, Iranian, Kurd, British, Hussar, Chinese, Japanese or Orc horde? Who me?
wow Jordan you've asked a lot of great questions, can we get a vol.2 and what's next? I wonder if Russia will stop at this point and Germany/Ukraine/Russia can get a peace treaty? Any chance?
@@ryansmith2844 Everyone who understood the game or had ever had dealings with the Russian military thought this would be over by now. The Ukrainians have surprised everyone, including themselves. The first sign of this not really playing out as expected was the day Zelensky turned down his ride out of there, and then stuck to his word. He's set a great example to his people, and they are smart and determined on top of that. We need to keep them in the game, its in our interests to do so.
@ryansmith2844 If you remove his timeframe, which in fairness he constantly says timeframe is the hardest part, everything else is bang on. Russia is now sending another 350k troops. And they have turned these cities to rubble. 🤷♂️
Good stuff. Minor automotive component quibble around 48:00, spark plugs aren't a component, value added or otherwise, of a "carburetor unit" but rather are a component of an ignition system in an internal combustion engine. Again, very minor, and geopolitical analysis and presentation in consumable way much appreciated
Famine does not have to be. I taught a bunch of farmers in Kenya how to no longer go hungry at least two months of the year by teaching them permaculture. They learned to save seeds properly, use compost and generally attend to their soil. In France, a cereal grower friend who uses cover cropping techniques and compost is getting similar or better results as fertilizer users. It is going to need readjusting no doubt, but it probably will be a good thing.
I don't disagree with you, because I don't know much about farming, but how well does this work in marginal soil? Places where the only reason you have farms is because you amend the soil all the time? Historically, the only reason you farm a place is because it's pretty easy compared the other places nearby. You don't bother irrigating a desert to farm if you have well watered lands nearby. So if you take away the things that make it possible to farm there in the first place... how long does it take before it comes crashing down? Because I think that is Zeihan's point, that some places that do use marginal croplands will suffer when the fertilizers run out. I wonder if you have any insight to how long they can try to stretch the decline? If they can even get 1 good growing season before the yields become useless, that might be enough to keep them from starving until this Ukraine war gets resolved.
@@markpukey8 Sorry, I never saw your text. To answer: 1) even good land needs regular replenishing with compost, all the more in tropical areas where fertility is in the vegetation, not the soils as much. Africa has suffered much from the use of European agricultural methods, developed in vastly different rain patterns and climate. 2) Marginal lands are typically used for cattle while a good deal of the good land is used to grow crops for cattle. Potentially return some to cattle? Although what a learning curve! Farmers are pretty set in their ways and too strapped to try new ways without help… 3) Land can be replenished with fertilizing crops and soil life, and thus fertility (and water-holding capacity - less floods) maintained with cover crops. I would encourage you to look for UA-cams by Gabe Brown, who applies his chemical-free methods on thousands of acres.
And based on the video evidence to date... those Ukrainian tractors have managed to steal quite a few of those sophisticated tanks. I guess sometimes it comes down to "who has the fuel to keep moving?".
You act as if many tank crews aren't blatantly leaving their tanks behind from low morale. One tank driver even ran over his own commander in a fit of rage.
@@rodiculous9464 EVEN BETTER! I mean really, what could be better than finding a "free tank" that only needed gas? Answer - A "free tank" that already has Russian guts smeared into the treads! One less for Ukrainians to have to hunt down.
@@JordanHarbingerShow Though the interview was having a lot of good points/info I didn't hear anything by Peter about my Nr. 1 question : What actually is the western strategy for the upcoming potential nuclear war - either in Ukraine or later with NATO ? Up to now I didn't really hear ANY CONVINCING Strategy yet - if there ever even is any.... Can you do a whole talk on that topic with him since that scenario looming on the near horizon is of enormous consequence for the whole world and there's no doubt in my mind that Putin IS willing to use nukes in Ukraine rather than to ever retreat, especially since that is about the only scenario where Putin actually still holds better trump cards than the west - even if it's just due to the fact that the west has almost infinitely more to lose than a 70y near end of life and probably even terminally ill Putin. Really would like to hear Peter's take on that topic....thanks in advance 😊👌
THERE IS NO WESTERN NUKE STRAGETY BEC. PUTIN ALREADY OUNCE SAID THAT NUCLEAR WAR CAN'T BE WON AND MUST NEVER BE FOUGHT. FURTHERMORE, 😅PUTIN LOVES HIS ENTIRE FAMILY THAT USING NUKES WOULD BRUTALIZED THEM AND THATS UNACCEPTABLE. I HOPE THAT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUEST ION. Y@@martinwagner7361
This is one of the most intelligent conversations I have ever heard! Why I have never heard of Peter Zeitan. I must get his books. His ability to think analytically is mind-boggling.
Uh, what? Ukraine has been backed by the US and the EU financially and militarily ($150B +) the whole time. Not sure why you think Ukraine is doing this on their own. lol holding their own. They'd have been done in a month without help.
WTF. The land based ICBMs of both Russia and the US have an average travel time from launch to target of 30 minutes. Sub launched SLBM's can be as little as 2 to 5 minutes. Hyper sonics in atmosphere don't work well do to heat friction and vibration that literally rip/melt the launch vehicle to pieces. The reason the US shelved the project was due to material requirements and expense. It's a lot cheaper to use a Sub or a Bomber to launch strategic standoff weapons than it is to use a ridiculously expensive technology that you can't cheaply mass produce in high quality. Did these people even research their topics. I'm calling this video 2 talking heads BS propaganda.
The big deal for hypersonic weapons is its ability to strike a target and penetrate missile defence systems. A regular ICBM has a strong chance of being eliminated before it hits its target vs hypersonic which has and extremely high chance of hitting it target. He is right about it not being a big deal on normal missiles but with a nuke it's a legit threat and game changer. It's not as important for America to have Hypersonic weapons right now. It's way more import to be able to defend against a hypersonic nuclear missile.
@@prst99 I believe the thinking on it goes like this. If they can hit you before you can strike back you might not be around to send those nukes. Also it would allow them to wipe out our navel power due to the need to have 30 seconds to counter and incoming missile and I have read they can hit within 20 seconds. And then their missile defence system will have way less ICBMs to defend against. They could possibly win before a shot is fired back. Now this is if they start shooting hypersonic nukes.
@@aaroncouncil5126 from what I read about ICBMs, they are at hypersonic speeds on their descent phase. The difference from what you describe is the lead time is shortened from a hypersonic missile vs an ICBM. Are hypersonic nukes a tactical nuke or a strategic one?
"The degree of policy failure we should expect to see out of China will be catastrophically entertaining." I got to admire his sense of humor in the face of pure horror that may come about from all of this.
@@nothril Why have that opinion? Are you motivated by creating hopelessness and pessimism for Americans or are you just misinformed? The US has another 1-2 presidential election cycles before the political realignment is resolved and our bickering will cease. America has always and was designed for a system that debates only after debate do we act. It has been successful so far and will be successful in the future. Every generation thinks their time is different and overestimates the odds of failure but it hasn't happened yet. I don't expect this time to be different. Like Peter said, when Sputnik was launced, a grapefruit that crashed down a week later while we had advantages in metallurgy, electronics and rocketry, we completely redesigned our education system. The US is best when there is a threat and we so thoroughly correct that we coast on that greatness for decades. Declinists be damned, bet on America.
@@nothril The rest of the world depends on the US for stability and prosperity. They view the US as a parent views a child stumbling around playing a sport. Ultimately they cheer us on even in the face of policy mistakes like figuring out how to give public healthcare to a country that has a larger population and larger geographic size than any other country with public healthcare. Nobody roots for China because they are a bigger North Korea, they flaunt the international order while threatening other countries for their gain while hurting every country they can whenever possible. The are no similarities between the US and China.
@@nbonasoro your public healtcare is a joke. Just as your leaders. And No land can depend on the us any longer, US needs europe, not the other way. Educate your self, and you Will be shocked. You must be a woke, to even think like you do.
Very good interview thusfar. Like the insights. With my layman eyes this war is about resources. Ukraine has a lot of the same resources Russia has. Food, metals and energy. Control those and you have a firm grip over Europe. Maybe even more than any 'buffer country'. Even a long, stalled war will achieve these goals with 'minimal' effort as many of these resources were not yet being exploited. Ongoing war might also create a resource one might not directly think of. A stream of refugees (or downright captives) going to the east to rejuvenate the aging Russian population. My take on it. Replying halfway in, so I might just repeat some stuff.
@@gauloiseguy it is most certainly not voluntary, nor will it ever be and quite frankly Russia would be mad to import 1000s of extremely angry and vengeful people to live in Russia that’s many thousand terrorist missions just waiting to happen.
@@gauloiseguy yes but you are talking of them as a resource, I understand you mean a possible reason for the invasion, though given the hatred the Russians have sown that will backfire tremendously. I have heard a much better one, which I shall get into. As a resource unwilling refugees would be nothing but a problem for Russia. However; The thing is Putin is so isolated, he actually thought that Ukrainians would be welcoming him. As you no doubt have heard he has sacked and imprisoned 150 of his FSB previously very trusted cadre. Some of them have gone to the very worst prisons in Russia. Something absolutely devastating was committed by these men. This is unlikely to ever be officially confirmed because Putin would loose so much face, however , rumour has it is that these 150 stole billions of pounds by saying that they were running resistance groups to the Ukrainian government supply them with weapons and sowing discord , so that when Putin invaded, he thought there were large resistance groups of Ukrainians who would welcome the troops with open arms and throw flowers at them . ( Haven’t we heard that all along) Hence when they sent in the paratroopers to the airport on that first night very poorly supported, so much so that the casualty rate amongst the Russian paratroops was appalling, that was because he had been told that there would be armed resistance Ukrainian fighter who would fight with them. It makes sense of why on earth he committed to the invasion ? Any sane person could have told him , don’t do it it will be a bloody disaster and you will not “ win” even if you manage to defeat the Ukrainians with overwhelming numbers, you will never hold the country and it will be a long drown out war like Afghanistan whereby you will loose and have to watch the body bags piling up. If he was paying out billions as he thought to soften the Ukrainian population to welcome Russians and giving them weapons to overturn the Ukrainian army, he thought it would be a 3 day war with a victory parade in Kiev with the dress uniforms that many of the soldiers were told to pack. It explains why he invaded , why as a possible resource he maybe did look to young Ukrainians. However that the problem with being a dictator, you get completely removed from reality, only heard what you want to hear and are very susceptible to people running scams against you. As a rumour it really does explain his disastrous decision and maybe one day we will get it confirmed , but as a rumour it explains a lot.
Great interview! Regarding China attacking Taiwan. The CCP doesn’t care about its economy on a larger scale. Regimes like that will do everything to stay in power, and attacking nearby territories will “legitimize” party’s rule for years to come, no matter how poor the country is, if the people believe the party and the state are “great”, they won’t rebel (think Mao and Stalin). Attacking Taiwan doesn’t mean they’ll attack the main island, but there are many smaller islands under Taiwan jurisdiction that are actually not protected by Taiwan Relations Act (it only covers Taiwan and the Pescadores), so China might attack smaller islands like Tung-sha or even Kinmen which is close to China. This is still a risk and Taiwan not only needs to work on its own military capabilities, but Taiwan’s allies like the US need to expand on Taiwan policies and say explicitly that any attack on Taiwan-controlled territories is an attack on the free world.
Oh I agree, China would love to attack Taiwan and take that thriving country over, however when it sees how the world has reacted to Putin invasion of Ukraine it must make them think very hard about the likelihood of the same sanctions and economic pain being visited on themselves if they should do so now. They will be extremely angry about this with Russia.
Good thing America is going to start manufacturing more parts here going forward. Our government must see this coming and Covid shortages woke us up to our dependencies. Great interview! Would love to see y’all discuss China more too. Also, I work in the electronics industry and we could definitely fill the gap if necessary. But it would take some manufacturing training and building of facilities.
When it comes to high value manufacturing the US is the world leader. That means motor cars, engines, electrical systems and so on. China is a cheap plastics factory that supplies junk to western big store brands and for cheap generic products. No matter what people say the US is still the world's'' largest chip manufacturer. Taiwan specializes in RISC based processors which go into mobile devices and car infotainment systems. The backbone of the internet, communications switching systems, operating systems, power electrical systems and so on are all dominated by the US. Countries like German, Ireland, UK, Taiwan, Israel and Netherlands all contribute to the US system. It is not a case that US manufacturing is coming home but a case of consolidation were an expansion is about to take place.
But you left out that covid now has been determined as a American made genocide whether it was intentionally released or got out of the labs by way of an accident but either way it wouldn't have taken place of Dr Fauci didn't ignore congress and not do gain of function research, development and manufacturing of the manmade COVID pathogen
Too little too late. Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts. Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic. The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days. America is oh-ver!
My question is, why now? Why is Putin moving to secure these entry points now? Why not 10 or 20 years ago (I don't know how long he's been in power) when NATO hadn't expanded to his front door. Is that not the answer? Is it that he knew that they were militarily incapable of matching up with NATO forces and was "hoping" that NATO expansion would cease at some point but when that didn't occur was forced to play his very weak and losing hand? NATO military advisors and commanders are worried about the desperate state that Russia is inevitably going to find themselves in and the potential nuclear exchange resulting from it? Why the hell did they create it in the first place then? I'm ignorant on this topic so I'm actually asking a question that I would like to have an answer to. It's not an indictment of NATO expansionist activity. Is it that it was either us (NATO) expanding or Russia expanding into NATO/ Western countries so that NATO expansion was in effect defensive?
Accurate or not when Peter challenges holy cow perceptions that have provided comfort for years the fear generates considerable push back but no rationale to challenge his refreshing patterns
If he’s a good storyteller, then tell us why he’s the only person in geopolitics that saw it all coming 9 years ago? Even down to the month. Everything the man talks about is viewed solely objectively and statistical.
Russia has a very small economy, about the size of Spain in terms of GDP. How can anyone expect that Russia would go into war with NATO or the US once they are done in Ukraine. Ridiculous expectation in my opinion.
My opinion exactly. How are they supposed to renew the huge Soviet arsenal, maintain and update the costly nuclear weapons and finance the far too large fleet? How to finance the infrastructure in this huge country. Nato enlargement has pushed it into a corner - now it is really dangerous.
Russia doesn't want to go to war with Europe. Its America that wants such a war. However if NATO invades Russia they will be taken out with tactical nukes. Its an existential issue for the Russians. As for demographic collapse just look at Germany, Italy, Britain etc. They only maintain their populations with third world migrant birthrates...and these people will not fight to defend Europe's civilisation.
Fear and anger makes us humans unable to listen and reason. When we believe we see others, we only see ourselves. Almost every word spoken by US government/thinktanks today, gives us a clear picture of what THEY are thinking/doing, but tells us nothing about the thinking/doing of russians.
Great conversation. Easily digestible info. One point I disagree with, as a teacher in NYC, saying russian and Chinese education is subpar is very inaccurate, education is one of the areas where they dominate us.
You have an unrealistic view of the world. You have bought the idea that the US has a poor education system and that China has more students than the US as meaning something. Reality is that the majority of people in China live on less than $1000 a year, live in third world rural areas and are not part of the shiny city lifestyle that is being sold. Russia is not much better with extreme levels of poverty being the norm. US education has some of the words best infrastructure.
@@bighands69 I'm an immigrant from eastern Europe, have friends from Russia and China, educators both working here and there, spent my life in education, I'm pretty sure I'm correct on this one
A "million Russian soldiers in Ukraine by the end of the year". Let's put a pin in that prediction, shall we? They couldn't feed 1/5 that many for 4 weeks. He is entertaining but I wonder if he ever owns up to past guesses off the mark.
That was something that caught my ear also. The Russians are having a devil of a time trying to supply the forces that they have already deployed, I doubt they could deploy a larger number of soldiers without stripping every other theater command of their trucks and rendering those commands immobile.
everything Zeihan says is so bombastic that I always have a hard time taking him seriously....until it happens. He has a pretty good track record. He has been saying that Russia was going to invade to plug those gaps he talked about for years.
Trump warned Angela Merkel about taking Russian energy. John Kerry, and she laughed at him. How did that work out? Maybe the world should listen to the "stable genius" once in a while.
I can't figure out if I like this Zeihan guy or not. He's obviously incredibly intelligent but he also always seems to speak with a sense of "knowing". Like he knows 100% for sure these things. That always is kind of a red flag to me.
I know
His figures for force numbers in Iraq were what got me doubting a lot of his "knowledge".
At the peak of the "surge" there were 170,000 US forced alone,not counting the forces of other nations.
@@dennishorne5839 I know right??
He makes truthful or knowledgeable-sounding second-tier statements, like knowing names or events/dates. Combined with the utmost confidence you'd mentioned, he then links these statements into ridiculous assertions that have very little to do with reality or basic logic. But hey, it sounds good and people eat it up. I mean yeah, "Russia's about to invade NATO." LOL... Oh gevalt. This guy's a total hack. A very skillful purveyor of utter bullshit.
I take his voice as opinion. However he at least does some background research with his opinion. So it’s opinion with logic backed by some data but without a team to look at other angles and probabilities. for me he condenses some data but is like looking for information in Wikipedia - you use it as a starting point but you would not include it in a report as a reference.
i can't believe that i have discovered Peter Zeihan only now. The coherence and the insights we all needed.
His books are fantastic.
Me too. This is a first rate assessment.
Me too. I have the feeling that like... "why isn't this the lens we see things through anywhere else? Why is this guy not all over the news? It makes so much more sense!" but then I have to be like... where's the counter narrative to this? Just in case I'm missing something.
@@MobiusCoin He's good. But he's affected and speaks at hypersonic speed. Might be more well known if he bothered to enunciate. Plus with Scott Ritter commenting every day, Zeihan doesn't stand a chance with what's really happening on the ground in Ukraine. Zeihan seems to be relying on Western media. (Who knows, I'm no expert). I watch The Duran. You may want to check it out Mobius.
This guy is a huckster.
You are missing a few things: Ukraine provides grain and oil (47% world markt share for sunflower oil) for a significant part of the world and does also have gas ressources that have been found in the last years.
When the war is over then Ukraine can supply itself with gas instead receiving it from the remains of Russia and will also still be a supplier of food for the world.
Additionally, when the country is rebuilt UA can get rid of some old legacy stuff in their infrastructure and may (!) become one of the most modern country. If I remember right then one reason why the us electricity system is crumbling compared to the european (especially austria and germany) system is that after WW2 that system was completely rebuilt while the US has old stuff and structures in use (not sure about that).
I would love to see this revisited now that it's 9 months later.
Its 9 months later and this guy is about as smart as biden man he is so stupid wow lol
I was thinking the same thing
i also just started watching this video, but wont happen cuz dud will need to contradict half of stuff he said there as 100% fact lol
He bullshited over 50% of what he said in this kind of videos
Russia and Russian ppl are fucked up for decades cuz of this war.. there is no way around that, dude overshootted a lot of stuff also
I’m watching this 12 months later and Russia is mired in a war that they are on the edge of loosing. I haven’t checked for an update on this but I’m going to.
Agree.
Polish have a grudge to bear? That’s a great way to minimize Polish suffering under Russian atrocities.
Russia attacked Ukraine because it was trying to join NATO… IMO!
He may be referring to the period when Poland occupied a lot of territory in European Russia, 1600's?
I did not want this interview to end, I could have listened for hours.
You cN, each time that you think.its a new one.
LOL... "this is probably wild speculation".... and that yankee "expert" is talking about education in Russia?!?!?! LMAO best look at the dumbing down in murica.... Meanwhile, back in the real world, most of the world is dumping the dollar and Russia now has NO dollar "assets" ... Well with sanctions to the left, embargoes to the right and blaming everyone else for their criminally insane ponzi economies and military messes... oops, make that "spreading freedumb and demonocracy"... don't these nato creeps and their bitch slapped stooges realize that all their pathetic puerile tantrums do is show just how fracked up, broke and desperate the "united" states of murica and king-CONNED-om really are?
because he spouts pure Copium into your ears while sounding disinterested, it's a heady mix. Careful.
May I ask why? He lost all credibility after the first question imo.
Buy peter’s books!
Time to get Peter back on the show, we need this discussion updated.
Great show.
A show with Peter and Stephen Kotkin would be a true event.
Russia has performed even more badly than Peter discussed here. It would be good to hear his current thinking (early June 22).
Yes now 2 months out of date.
I'd never seen Peter Ziehan until recently. I've been mainly reading and following Mark Blyth the political-economist from Brown U.
Peter seems to cover a lot of the same stuff but from the perspective of someone who's concerned about the demographics and how that affects the political landscape while Mark looks at the interactions between economics and the political landscape.
Interesting they both have almost the same assessment of Bitcoin and Crypto in general.
But I will say this (as I am an engineer) they get their engineering wrong at times, but its mainly in details only an engineer will pick up.
I sort of doubted the population of those countries Putin wants control of. They weren't quite right its NOT 300 million its just under 270 million.
Please update!
He’s about 50% right about any and all details about Russian life internally . I grew up in the Soviet Union in the 1980s . One big correction on education : you tested out of high school on your major passport exam if you didn’t do well you qualified for a technical school if you did very well you got the red passport and got to go to a university and science , if your family was connected you got to go to a political major focus to be a party member or of some sort. If you dropped out there was vocational stuff like military , forest service , border etc .
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Every person has a 50/50 chance of being right on something. He's not special.
So informational.... everyone needs to digest this and pay ATTENTION
Peter Zeihan ids brilliant. Best analysis of Putin and the Russian situation ive ever heard. Thank you!
Jordan, thanks a bunch; this was great! Following Peter Zeihan is like taking a course in economics.
Disagree. I took economics for 4 years in college. I've learned so much more from following Peter Zeihan. 100% agree it was a great podcast.
I agree that economics is only one part of what Zeihan unfolds for us. “Socio-economics” is closer to being descriptive.
You’re welcome. Glad you enjoyed this!
This explains what's happening in the world 🌎
43:00 Re: Taiwan. China invading will make Iwo Jima look like a cakewalk with attrition decimating Xi’s forces more than Putin’s folly. Plus, TMSL will never flourish under PRC control.
cant understand why more people have not watched this interview....its incredible information.....:)
The AI doesnt want us to know about it.
Because it is not different from what the mainstream is saying all the time.
People only want to hear what they want to believe. This was how Trump got elected, so there are at least 74 million clueless voters in the U.S.. I'm not giving liberals a pass, either: far too many know practically nothing about worldwide politics, geography, or economics. The U.S. educational system isn't designed to educate it's citizens; it's designed to make people into obedient, at least minimally competent workers for the corporations. That's why those important subjects aren't taught in public schools.
Thinking is hard work and many people won’t do it. I learned more in this hour than a hundred hours of CNN
There's better interviews with this guy. There's one from a couple weeks ago which is amazing
Great job pointing Zeihan at specific-enough things that he didn't just say the same things he does in every talk!
haha so, I tried REALLY hard to do that, and I'm glad it worked!
He too into geography and Putin publicly say he wants rebuild Russian empire some truth to what he saying thi
@@youtubeoppressivecensorshi8047 That's a fair point, he leans hard on the geographic determinism and demographic pyramids because they are true, irrefutable, and strongly support his conclusions. Other factors that I would like to see more clearly are business structures and where other soft / cultural factors matter.
This is really a great interview, your guest is so knowledgeable and thanks for letting him do the talking. Too many hosts start to rant or interrupt.
He certainly presents himself as such, and he does back it up with the knowledge of names and their holders' positions, but you can easily take apart practically every single one of his major assertions, which only sound plausible because they're linked together into a narrative by true (minor) statements. I mean, it's a rarity to hear an overarching narrative that's so ridiculously far removed from reality or basic logic. The man's a hack. A very successful and highly compensated one (because he pushes a story whoever pays him approves) but a total hack nonetheless.
A very impressive interview. Peter gave explicit answers to all questions. Answered many of my questions
Even if this is a few weeks old and there has been more developments, I still find this absolutely fascinating!
he's been saying the same thing more or less for several years!!
Western media would have you believe one month is the full story but willfully ignores context since WWII
LOL... "this is probably wild speculation".... and that yankee "expert" is talking about education in Russia?!?!?! LMAO best look at the dumbing down in murica.... Meanwhile, back in the real world, most of the world is dumping the dollar and Russia now has NO dollar "assets" ... Well with sanctions to the left, embargoes to the right and blaming everyone else for their criminally insane ponzi economies and military messes... oops, make that "spreading freedumb and demonocracy"... don't these nato creeps and their bitch slapped stooges realize that all their pathetic puerile tantrums do is show just how fracked up, broke and desperate the "united" states of murica and king-CONNED-om really are?
Indeed. Interesting is the wests military shipments to Ukraine and what effects this will have on Poots actions.
Start with 'F-Troop'. Add 'McHale's Navy and 'Gomer PyleUSMC'. Add too much Vodka. Mix in blender. You now have Russia's military.
This is head and shoulders above the commentary and analysis we get in the MSM. I will be subscribing and check out anything else Peter has to say.
Word. This really got my brain working.
If you're still clicking on legacy corporate media in 2022, you're probably not far from moving into a nursing home where someone else will just turn on a random channel and you can sit there and nap with your mouth open until meds time.
Propaganda, still brainwashing Americans that they will not suffer the consequences of any of their actions, including weaponising the dollar. You are telling the American public that nothing is going to happen to their dollar. Well I hope the BRIC countries succeed in creating a new currency so America can continue to print their dollar to feed their Military Industrial complex to bully, threaten, destroy and dominate the rest of the world for ever. The rest of the world is waking up to the fact they cannot trust America anymore. All America want is to keep up dominating the world until they become desperate and stupid to result in the use of Nuclear weapons as they did in Hiroshrima and Nakasaki in Japan. This time, Russia got nuclear, and no body is going to escape the fall out if America tried it again. Even some rich Americans who are building themselves underground bunkers can not live there forever. Let the world have peace, live, and let live America. God saves the world from greed and war mongering.
Great interview, great questions.
I follow Peter quite closely so it's great to hear him get challenged from as many angles as possible in order to get more idea about how he grounds his arguments.
thank you for the kind words!
I agree I disagree they use nuclear weapons just because we confront them with the military or navy. Breaking the blockade is nessary prevent starvation and raising prices
@@JordanHarbingerShow Good that Peter was incorrect about the willingness of the West to help Ukraine with heavy weapons. It would be super cool if you could get Peter again to talk with him what he thinks will happen now. As the sit. he described didn't come exactly to pass like this.
@@Loki1191 When asked that question 11 years ago, he was pretty convinced that NATO would need to provide material support, if not direct boots on the ground. But he basically outlined what everyone is talking about now, 11 years ago.
Oh yj
Would like to have you get him back on your show for an update now that continued, unprecented strength in the Ukrainian forces and continued weakness in Russian forces has seemingly tipped the balance in Ukraine's favor.
Great comedy loved it , from beginning to end had me laughing😂 brilliant, can't wait for the next show, great double act 👏
He forgot to mention: Putin is a cross dresser that wears pink diapers!
In the end, nothing is funnier than the truth.
@@mrspaceman2764 the guy is a pure bullshitter. Russia today is nothing like what he's describing.
Great interview. Not sure at which point you "confronted" him.
That’s called click bate.
he is a master baiter
It was off camera. They went to a whorehouse afterwards and fought over who went first.
I love Peter but he does have a script(s) and many ready answers. He is extremely difficult to trip up.
The thing I like the most about Peter is that he will change his analysis once he absorbs and processes new evidence.
@@Cubcariboo yes, I've also noticed that...well, once you've written a book(s?) about it, it's understandable. I think that's exacerbated by the fact that there are multiple channels that have cut from his original presentation(s?) and posted videos on their respective channels. So when you wanna get a taste of what new stuff the man has to say you get the same thing and think to yourself hmm this sounds like the same thing again. But hey, that's just my two cents
I am continually impressed with your guests. Thanks for existing
thanks Hazel!
Interesting how different the situation is now from then.
Excellent interview! One of the best I've seen on the Ukraine crisis.
Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts.
Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic.
The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days.
America is oh-ver!
Interesting point of view.I would like to have him (Peter Zeihan) discussing this topics with Noam Chomsky, John Mearsheimer and others, who having a different opinion about this bloody conflict.
Interesting discussion but all have been deeply wrong about recent events. It is almost a year now and Ukraine is surviving. Chomsky is sometimes interesting but his anti-US bias hinders his ability to go into just how bent on aggression leaders of other nations can be. Mearsheimer has increasing drifted into an being a Putin apologist after writing that Ukraine should not give up its nukes.
Ive been following Peter for years. No doubt hes smart but hes also very glib and not always right. Many have underestimated the Russians but time will tell. I suspect he would have predicted the Americans winning the Vietnam War back in the day.
I think America just didn't care enough to win in Vietnam.
This was an outstanding interview from beginning to end.
Zeihan is probably the greatest living sociologist
And an exercise in being proved completely wrong
🎉hi
Peter is someone I follow avidly. Always thought provoking but does not mean I agree with his point of view entirely. Jordan as always has done his homework and draw out as much as he can from his guest. A must-follow channel/stream for me
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46:00 When I was working on some products here that bought microcontroller boards, programmed them, embedded them in a product, and sold them, the company that sold us those boards moved their manufacturing from Asia to Mexico. The products themselves were well made enough, but they kept missing steps in the process, some boards wouldn't have the calibration done properly, some boards wouldn't have the firmware loaded, etc. Hopefully they've improved that since then, because it was a major pain to do the calibrations ourselves. It's possible that it was just due to teething problems in the transition though and that they sorted it out, but moving supply chains around like that always have some issues in the transition.
I wonder if those companies could have provided better education and training for creating those boards but were more concerned with profits in the short term. It would benefit and U.S. and Mexico if business put in the effort to train and educate Mexicans. There would be fewer immigrants because the Mexicans could get jobs at home. But corporate and Republican greed...
@@sunshinelizard1 there’s no way to turn a farm worker into an electronic technician.
@@zerge69 But the farm worker will have kids that can be turned electronic technician.
Mexico???
@@SorbusAucubaria which has nothing to do with the argument
Insane watching this in August of 2024.
That podcast is a masterclass on the folly of trying to predict the future, no matter how smart you think you are,or how confidently you make your predictions.
great show...very informative...I nerd out on this kind of stuff.
Jordan, Very impressed with both your knowledge and deference. You should latch on to this guy and make this a recurring interview/update. I watch some UA-cam videos and think "I will never get that 73-minutes back". I feel like I gained a few years of life tonight. Excellent interview.
thank you. Really kind words
Most podcasts just make 30 minutes into 2 hours. Not here, great interview and great lecturer.
Who paid for your lobotomy?
I am curious to know what Peter Zeihan's definition of a Russian "win" is with the passing of 122 days of war. Any thoughts? And comparing the death toll tolerance of a 1918 Russian citizen, considering how much information was available to them, to that of a present day citizen was a bit odd.
when is the US getting out of Europe? we don’t need you
There's a LOT of odd things with what he's saying.
@@theselector4733 I would like to hear it. Sometimes people have a gap in their knowledge, or there is another interpretation that would also work given some hard evidence. From what I know of the situation, which is relatively limited, there simply aren't that many folks in Russia with an outward facing view of the world, with other language skills, specifically English language skills, who can bridge the information gap and get a view of what is happening from the Western side of this in our balkanized internet. While they may not believe the party line, it may be far enough away that they are not getting involved, kind of like how the average US citizen didn't really follow Afghanistan despite 20 years of "war." Mobilization changed things, obviously, but not enough to shift the outcome or the primary direction.
Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts.
Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic.
The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days.
America is oh-ver!
Yes. Also, Russia's loss of ten thousand men in Afghanistan helped to bring down the Soviet empire in the '80's. Now 'he who sh*ts himself' is looking at losing over 10 TIMES that IN ONE YEAR! Stay away from windows, Poopy pants!
This is on par with a college course. I will be watching more and more of this channel, and I will buy "The Absent Superpower..." and start reading asap.
Yep. Just like a college course. Full of bias and spin.
Zeihan is great
Are you kidding? It's peurile and dishonest. Try Douglas MacGregor.
Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts.
Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic.
The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days.
America is oh-ver!
@@jeebus6263 😅
Interesting how predictions can fail. The show was aired in April 2022. Now it´s almost Nov 23. Still not 1 mio RUS soldiers in Ukraine as Zeihan predicted and though fertilizer prices surged (started already before 2022) a severe worldwide shortage of fertilizers didn´t set in. Ukraine still stands and in every aspect RUS gets weaker by the day. Zeihan is an interesting person. His extensive knowledge is complemented by a high degree of self-assurance. This is the recipe for overshooting the mark here and there in terms of predictions. However Zeihan serves food for thought.
Zeihan knows a lot of stuff. At least it seems so. That's what you need in order to have enough "dots" to connect in a meaningful way. What he says about demographics, geography, economics, the history of Russia, etc., makes sense. At least to me, but then I don't know a lot of stuff. Anyway, it's fascinating to listen to. Maybe what he's been saying about Russia, China, etc. is on the mark. In any case, we'll know within a decade whether or not his predictions are accurate. Good podcast by Jordan Harbinger. Thumbs up!
Thumbs up on interesting stats but predictions didn't work out thankfully-especially for Ukraine.
You are a very good and engaging interviewer.
Excellent interview. Thank you.
PLEASE have Peter back on the show to update this, now that a long war, in Ukraine and funded/supplies by the West, seems likely. Or, does anyone know where Peter talks/writes regularly?
fantastic. this strategic perspective should be factored into general schooling and education, and our daily news services. respect. 🙏
Really interesting to re-analyse the points made in this programme after the benefit of nine months of hindsight. While Russia hasn't yet lost the war, the Ukrainians have nevertheless made unbelievable gains in the face of such a numerous and apparently massively armed foe. The only thing that defies belief is the indifference of the Germans to the Ukrainian lives expended to save European skins.
Most Ukrainians are Russians in fact. Also Ukraine was were Russia was founded.
Best version of peter ziehan that i have seen in years.
Always a pleasure to listen to Peter's articulate and fact-based commentary
This man is phenomenal. I am so glad I stumbled across this video and was able to discover Peter!
Amazing interview! Thank you! :)
Amazingly, they were "gassed" by aerosolized Fentanyl. Sent in a concentrated aerosol through the HVAC/Heating duct system. People sitting close to the outlets got high doses and died quickly.
Why do I know these things? Because I am military trained anesthesiologist who used IV Frntanyl on a daily basis. Long before the current Chinese/Mexican Cartel/US smuggling operation. Of the last one or two decades or so.
This was actually a great plan. But they forgot the second part. Every attacker and a ton (hundreds) of pretrained EMS responders with obviously identifiable badges/jackets. Should have been given many syringes full of Naloxone that reverses the severe respiratory depression caused by Fentanyl overdoses. Minimal training would be required. After the relatively small number of terrorists were disabled/killed. Any hostage without a gun or bomb should have been immediately injected under their tongue with a standard dose, needle size/length. In addition , an intramuscular (thigh or sboulder) injection should have been given to everyone as Naloxone last less time than high dose Fentanyl. They could have probably saved 80-90% of the affected hostages. This was not done. The few EMS people there were not aware that a narcotic like Fentayl was used. Or that Naloxone would treat what they were seeing. This needed to occur immediately as most of the hostages were no longer breathing. 5 minutes is probably too late.
In my experience, soldiers or minimally experienced EMS people, or civilian volunteers may be hesitant to inject people. Tell them that Naloxone OD is Impossible in that situation. They just need to avoid the eyeballs which is intuitive.
My approach has been to tell them that they cannot make a mistake and kill the patient/hostage.
They were already dead. So all they could do was to be a hero and savior. This tends to cutdown on any hesitation. After all, everybody wants to feel like they are a hero. Almost everybody.
You know your facts and I really don't detect much (if any) personal opinion.
Awesomely refreshing!
Just because a Russian head of state security desires to secure 9 regions historically suceptible to invasion does not mean a people with the GDP of Belgium can expand to the historic boundaries of Catherine the Great against unwilling opponents.
Recent weaknesses displayed by the significant Russian invasion forces in Ukraine demonstrate that Russia would have a hard time in a limited conventional war with even only regional NATO powers on location now .
Russian conventional forces would likely be destroyed rapidly like Iraqi forces were in the first Gulf War if facing a NATO opponent.
They spend disproportionately on military equipment that would normally be spent on domestic programs and infrastructure.
Russia has always been weak in those areas, and then expands and contracts in those spaces based on blowing their resources on military, which then causes internal political-economic collapse inward.
After each collapse, they rebuild the military and then go take back those places at great loss, hold them for a while at great financial and resource costs, then collapse again.
This has been true despite Czars, Soviets, or Kleptocrats. We're just watching the latest expansion campaign.
@@LRRPFco52 If you are an indefensible flat fertile plane that is regularly & easily overrun & impregnated by every neighbor with a population explosion, you develop into a different people (lower in Maslow's hierarchy) than if you are smug, safe, orderly and fat (and regularly lament your individuation struggle to your Jungian therapist).
Siciliy is another region that has an unusual hidden culture of protection. To some degree Stroudsburg/Straussburg and the Alta Addigio/Lower Tyrol have unique local self- protection schemes.
When you've been subjugated by cruel barbaric overlords like the Mongols for 5 generations you learn a few nasty habits & tricks.
Seems both human and inevitable.
Are we going to accept and work with them or keep sending disrupting democracy evangelists who present ideas of chaos & disorder, when they crave self-determination, safety, food and defensible borders above all?
And how different does the US military actually look to them from any other poised Mongol, Turk, Goth, French, German, communist, Prussian, Swede, Khan, Hun, Slav, Viking, Arab, Iranian, Kurd, British, Hussar, Chinese, Japanese or Orc horde?
Who me?
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Russia without an actual industrial base cannot be expected to have weapons systems in enough quantity to compete with NATO.
Not only that, but we are talking about a country who grew the largest and it did it by reaching to too many gaps 😁
great guest. Love to hear more from him.
Very interesting and informative interview.
I'm so happy I stumbled upon this and listened to it all.
Thanks guys 👍👍👍
i really liked this podcast. Peter's words are intriguing.
wow Jordan you've asked a lot of great questions, can we get a vol.2 and what's next? I wonder if Russia will stop at this point and Germany/Ukraine/Russia can get a peace treaty? Any chance?
Man. Every time I listen to this man I’m shocked as to how accurate he turns out to be. Russia is already accepting 50 year olds.
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Everyone who understood the game or had ever had dealings with the Russian military thought this would be over by now.
The Ukrainians have surprised everyone, including themselves. The first sign of this not really playing out as expected was the day Zelensky turned down his ride out of there, and then stuck to his word.
He's set a great example to his people, and they are smart and determined on top of that. We need to keep them in the game, its in our interests to do so.
@ryansmith2844 If you remove his timeframe, which in fairness he constantly says timeframe is the hardest part, everything else is bang on. Russia is now sending another 350k troops. And they have turned these cities to rubble. 🤷♂️
@@rorykeegan1895 Wait for it 😊 you're not going to like it.
@@ryansmith2844 His timeline is way off. Most of his projections are at least plausible.
You mean continually wrong lol
Good stuff. Minor automotive component quibble around 48:00, spark plugs aren't a component, value added or otherwise, of a "carburetor unit" but rather are a component of an ignition system in an internal combustion engine. Again, very minor, and geopolitical analysis and presentation in consumable way much appreciated
Is it still a value added component of a car?
@@prst99 yes, of a car, just not of a “carburetor unit”, which are not common on modern cars at this point
@@stevepilz9107 yeah I remember watching a UA-cam show about carburetors. It’s mostly for muscle cars and modified cars now.
Famine does not have to be. I taught a bunch of farmers in Kenya how to no longer go hungry at least two months of the year by teaching them permaculture. They learned to save seeds properly, use compost and generally attend to their soil.
In France, a cereal grower friend who uses cover cropping techniques and compost is getting similar or better results as fertilizer users. It is going to need readjusting no doubt, but it probably will be a good thing.
I don't disagree with you, because I don't know much about farming, but how well does this work in marginal soil? Places where the only reason you have farms is because you amend the soil all the time?
Historically, the only reason you farm a place is because it's pretty easy compared the other places nearby. You don't bother irrigating a desert to farm if you have well watered lands nearby. So if you take away the things that make it possible to farm there in the first place... how long does it take before it comes crashing down? Because I think that is Zeihan's point, that some places that do use marginal croplands will suffer when the fertilizers run out. I wonder if you have any insight to how long they can try to stretch the decline? If they can even get 1 good growing season before the yields become useless, that might be enough to keep them from starving until this Ukraine war gets resolved.
Well tended soil can feed an incredible amount of people.
@@markpukey8 Sorry, I never saw your text.
To answer:
1) even good land needs regular replenishing with compost, all the more in tropical areas where fertility is in the vegetation, not the soils as much. Africa has suffered much from the use of European agricultural methods, developed in vastly different rain patterns and climate.
2) Marginal lands are typically used for cattle while a good deal of the good land is used to grow crops for cattle. Potentially return some to cattle? Although what a learning curve! Farmers are pretty set in their ways and too strapped to try new ways without help…
3) Land can be replenished with fertilizing crops and soil life, and thus fertility (and water-holding capacity - less floods) maintained with cover crops. I would encourage you to look for UA-cams by Gabe Brown, who applies his chemical-free methods on thousands of acres.
I truly appreciate such an intelligent discussion.
Excellent podcast,appreciate it. Interesting to hear a yr after the fact
Russia: We have sophisticated tanks!
Ukraine: Our farmers have Tractors!
And based on the video evidence to date... those Ukrainian tractors have managed to steal quite a few of those sophisticated tanks. I guess sometimes it comes down to "who has the fuel to keep moving?".
China: we lock people in their apartments by the millions to stop covid!
You act as if many tank crews aren't blatantly leaving their tanks behind from low morale. One tank driver even ran over his own commander in a fit of rage.
@@rodiculous9464 EVEN BETTER! I mean really, what could be better than finding a "free tank" that only needed gas?
Answer - A "free tank" that already has Russian guts smeared into the treads! One less for Ukrainians to have to hunt down.
the US has NO oil/fuel production, NO fertilizer, no baby formula, and NO F'ing Border!!!...and windmills for electric power.
Your guest is brilliant and you do an excellent job interviewing him! More videos please!🙏
Outstanding! I've never heard such brilliant observations anywhere.
But his observations were wrong
Hey Jordan,
Great interview with some wonderful questions from you.
Any chance of a follow up soon?
Eric Huang
4:09 jets do
5:19 we started working on hypersonics?
15:16 I would arguing the case of Ukraine, that's not going to happen.
22:04 he is already 70
A very knowledgable dude! Knows more than most commentators out there.
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@@JordanHarbingerShow Though the interview was having a lot of good points/info I didn't hear anything by Peter about my Nr. 1 question :
What actually is the western strategy for the upcoming potential nuclear war - either in Ukraine or later with NATO ?
Up to now I didn't really hear ANY CONVINCING Strategy yet - if there ever even is any....
Can you do a whole talk on that topic with him since that scenario looming on the near horizon is of enormous consequence for the whole world and there's no doubt in my mind that Putin IS willing to use nukes in Ukraine rather than to ever retreat, especially since that is about the only scenario where Putin actually still holds better trump cards than the west - even if it's just due to the fact that the west has almost infinitely more to lose than a 70y near end of life and probably even terminally ill Putin.
Really would like to hear Peter's take on that topic....thanks in advance 😊👌
@@martinwagner7361 will bring this up at some point, but maybe not with Peter as this might be outside his wheelhouse
@@JordanHarbingerShow thank you 👌
THERE IS NO WESTERN NUKE STRAGETY BEC. PUTIN ALREADY OUNCE SAID THAT NUCLEAR WAR CAN'T BE WON AND MUST NEVER BE FOUGHT.
FURTHERMORE,
😅PUTIN LOVES HIS ENTIRE
FAMILY THAT USING NUKES WOULD BRUTALIZED THEM AND THATS UNACCEPTABLE.
I HOPE THAT WILL ANSWER YOUR QUEST ION. Y@@martinwagner7361
This is one of the most intelligent conversations I have ever heard!
Why I have never heard of Peter Zeitan. I must get his books. His ability to think analytically is mind-boggling.
Really fascinating analysis. Very informative. Thank you!
We need to hear from this guest today
1 year out, this didn't age well. Lol. I love Peter Zeihan. I don't think anyone anticipated Ukraine holding their own like they have.
Uh, what? Ukraine has been backed by the US and the EU financially and militarily ($150B +) the whole time. Not sure why you think Ukraine is doing this on their own. lol holding their own. They'd have been done in a month without help.
WTF. The land based ICBMs of both Russia and the US have an average travel time from launch to target of 30 minutes. Sub launched SLBM's can be as little as 2 to 5 minutes. Hyper sonics in atmosphere don't work well do to heat friction and vibration that literally rip/melt the launch vehicle to pieces. The reason the US shelved the project was due to material requirements and expense. It's a lot cheaper to use a Sub or a Bomber to launch strategic standoff weapons than it is to use a ridiculously expensive technology that you can't cheaply mass produce in high quality. Did these people even research their topics. I'm calling this video 2 talking heads BS propaganda.
The big deal for hypersonic weapons is its ability to strike a target and penetrate missile defence systems. A regular ICBM has a strong chance of being eliminated before it hits its target vs hypersonic which has and extremely high chance of hitting it target. He is right about it not being a big deal on normal missiles but with a nuke it's a legit threat and game changer. It's not as important for America to have Hypersonic weapons right now. It's way more import to be able to defend against a hypersonic nuclear missile.
If hypersonic missiles are invincible, isn’t that just taking the situation back to when Mutually assured destruction kept the peace?
@@geocam2 let’s tell Russia to invest in perpetual motion machines. It’s the next game changing tech.
@@prst99 I believe the thinking on it goes like this. If they can hit you before you can strike back you might not be around to send those nukes. Also it would allow them to wipe out our navel power due to the need to have 30 seconds to counter and incoming missile and I have read they can hit within 20 seconds. And then their missile defence system will have way less ICBMs to defend against. They could possibly win before a shot is fired back. Now this is if they start shooting hypersonic nukes.
@@geocam2 that's assuming they never use it. Right now it's keeping NATO at bay and is imbolding China to spread their wings
@@aaroncouncil5126 from what I read about ICBMs, they are at hypersonic speeds on their descent phase. The difference from what you describe is the lead time is shortened from a hypersonic missile vs an ICBM.
Are hypersonic nukes a tactical nuke or a strategic one?
Fantastic and insightful show , thank you to both of you .
Hes going to have a Grande Finally.
Impressive. I wonder how Peter has a life and stays on top of Geopolitical Issues.
I am a regular follower of Peter Zehain, but find his obsession with his theory of Russian expansion into half of Europe very silly
"The degree of policy failure we should expect to see out of China will be catastrophically entertaining." I got to admire his sense of humor in the face of pure horror that may come about from all of this.
Imagine they become as pathetic as the US and fall apart like we see today😆
@@nothril Why have that opinion? Are you motivated by creating hopelessness and pessimism for Americans or are you just misinformed? The US has another 1-2 presidential election cycles before the political realignment is resolved and our bickering will cease. America has always and was designed for a system that debates only after debate do we act. It has been successful so far and will be successful in the future. Every generation thinks their time is different and overestimates the odds of failure but it hasn't happened yet. I don't expect this time to be different. Like Peter said, when Sputnik was launced, a grapefruit that crashed down a week later while we had advantages in metallurgy, electronics and rocketry, we completely redesigned our education system. The US is best when there is a threat and we so thoroughly correct that we coast on that greatness for decades. Declinists be damned, bet on America.
Focus on the policy failure.
As you wrote, "will be catastrophically entertaining".
Well, that's how the rest of the world see the US today.
@@nothril The rest of the world depends on the US for stability and prosperity. They view the US as a parent views a child stumbling around playing a sport. Ultimately they cheer us on even in the face of policy mistakes like figuring out how to give public healthcare to a country that has a larger population and larger geographic size than any other country with public healthcare. Nobody roots for China because they are a bigger North Korea, they flaunt the international order while threatening other countries for their gain while hurting every country they can whenever possible. The are no similarities between the US and China.
@@nbonasoro your public healtcare is a joke.
Just as your leaders.
And No land can depend on the us any longer, US needs europe, not the other way.
Educate your self, and you Will be shocked.
You must be a woke, to even think like you do.
Whoa Jordan! Grrreat show! I learned a lot. Ground shaking!
A lot happened in the last couple of weeks... we need to hear this guy again...
Please consider to Cut the base Hz on the microphones. Just tirering to listen to these muffled sounds.
Best analysis I have seen
Just found your channel. Great interviews keep up the great work!
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This is a great interview! Thank you!
We desperately need a Zeihan debate with Gonzalo Lira. Because Lira makes a great case that Russia is going to come out benefitting from all this.
Of course they are. Europe and the United States are going to toss Ukraine to the side of the road like a used condom after this is over.
Lol.
And Russia has
He gives the true facts and picture of the Russia and Ukraine war and of PUTIN. THANK YOU
I listen to it four times
Very good interview thusfar. Like the insights.
With my layman eyes this war is about resources. Ukraine has a lot of the same resources Russia has. Food, metals and energy.
Control those and you have a firm grip over Europe. Maybe even more than any 'buffer country'.
Even a long, stalled war will achieve these goals with 'minimal' effort as many of these resources were not yet being exploited.
Ongoing war might also create a resource one might not directly think of. A stream of refugees (or downright captives) going to the east to rejuvenate the aging Russian population.
My take on it.
Replying halfway in, so I might just repeat some stuff.
You are insane if you think Ukrainians are going east to Russia. They loathe Russia with a passion that will last 100 years,
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If you read carefully I highly suggested it might not be voluntarily. This is something that's already going on.
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@@gauloiseguy it is most certainly not voluntary, nor will it ever be and quite frankly Russia would be mad to import 1000s of extremely angry and vengeful people to live in Russia that’s many thousand terrorist missions just waiting to happen.
@@dianeshelton9592
This is happening right now. It's not hypothetical.
Heard of the term 'filtration camps'?
@@gauloiseguy yes but you are talking of them as a resource, I understand you mean a possible reason for the invasion, though given the hatred the Russians have sown that will backfire tremendously.
I have heard a much better one, which I shall get into.
As a resource unwilling refugees would be nothing but a problem for Russia.
However;
The thing is Putin is so isolated, he actually thought that Ukrainians would be welcoming him.
As you no doubt have heard he has sacked and imprisoned 150 of his FSB previously very trusted cadre. Some of them have gone to the very worst prisons in Russia. Something absolutely devastating was committed by these men. This is unlikely to ever be officially confirmed because Putin would loose so much face, however , rumour has it is that these 150 stole billions of pounds by saying that they were running resistance groups to the Ukrainian government supply them with weapons and sowing discord , so that when Putin invaded, he thought there were large resistance groups of Ukrainians who would welcome the troops with open arms and throw flowers at them . ( Haven’t we heard that all along) Hence when they sent in the paratroopers to the airport on that first night very poorly supported, so much so that the casualty rate amongst the Russian paratroops was appalling, that was because he had been told that there would be armed resistance Ukrainian fighter who would fight with them.
It makes sense of why on earth he committed to the invasion ? Any sane person could have told him , don’t do it it will be a bloody disaster and you will not “ win” even if you manage to defeat the Ukrainians with overwhelming numbers, you will never hold the country and it will be a long drown out war like Afghanistan whereby you will loose and have to watch the body bags piling up.
If he was paying out billions as he thought to soften the Ukrainian population to welcome Russians and giving them weapons to overturn the Ukrainian army, he thought it would be a 3 day war with a victory parade in Kiev with the dress uniforms that many of the soldiers were told to pack.
It explains why he invaded , why as a possible resource he maybe did look to young Ukrainians. However that the problem with being a dictator, you get completely removed from reality, only heard what you want to hear and are very susceptible to people running scams against you.
As a rumour it really does explain his disastrous decision and maybe one day we will get it confirmed , but as a rumour it explains a lot.
Great interview! Regarding China attacking Taiwan. The CCP doesn’t care about its economy on a larger scale. Regimes like that will do everything to stay in power, and attacking nearby territories will “legitimize” party’s rule for years to come, no matter how poor the country is, if the people believe the party and the state are “great”, they won’t rebel (think Mao and Stalin). Attacking Taiwan doesn’t mean they’ll attack the main island, but there are many smaller islands under Taiwan jurisdiction that are actually not protected by Taiwan Relations Act (it only covers Taiwan and the Pescadores), so China might attack smaller islands like Tung-sha or even Kinmen which is close to China. This is still a risk and Taiwan not only needs to work on its own military capabilities, but Taiwan’s allies like the US need to expand on Taiwan policies and say explicitly that any attack on Taiwan-controlled territories is an attack on the free world.
Oh I agree, China would love to attack Taiwan and take that thriving country over, however when it sees how the world has reacted to Putin invasion of Ukraine it must make them think very hard about the likelihood of the same sanctions and economic pain being visited on themselves if they should do so now. They will be extremely angry about this with Russia.
I think they will because chips. Without chips, america go bye-bye
Funny
Good thing America is going to start manufacturing more parts here going forward. Our government must see this coming and Covid shortages woke us up to our dependencies.
Great interview! Would love to see y’all discuss China more too.
Also, I work in the electronics industry and we could definitely fill the gap if necessary. But it would take some manufacturing training and building of facilities.
When it comes to high value manufacturing the US is the world leader. That means motor cars, engines, electrical systems and so on.
China is a cheap plastics factory that supplies junk to western big store brands and for cheap generic products.
No matter what people say the US is still the world's'' largest chip manufacturer. Taiwan specializes in RISC based processors which go into mobile devices and car infotainment systems.
The backbone of the internet, communications switching systems, operating systems, power electrical systems and so on are all dominated by the US. Countries like German, Ireland, UK, Taiwan, Israel and Netherlands all contribute to the US system.
It is not a case that US manufacturing is coming home but a case of consolidation were an expansion is about to take place.
But you left out that covid now has been determined as a American made genocide whether it was intentionally released or got out of the labs by way of an accident but either way it wouldn't have taken place of Dr Fauci didn't ignore congress and not do gain of function research, development and manufacturing of the manmade COVID pathogen
Too little too late. Anyone who thinks Putin wants to take on Europe is nuts.
Or that the U.S. can ever defeat Russia is psychotic.
The Russian economy is booming. The rouble is stronger now than when the war began. They have munitions and weapons factories working 24/7 while we have enough ammo to fight them for but ten days.
America is oh-ver!
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My question is, why now? Why is Putin moving to secure these entry points now? Why not 10 or 20 years ago (I don't know how long he's been in power) when NATO hadn't expanded to his front door. Is that not the answer? Is it that he knew that they were militarily incapable of matching up with NATO forces and was "hoping" that NATO expansion would cease at some point but when that didn't occur was forced to play his very weak and losing hand? NATO military advisors and commanders are worried about the desperate state that Russia is inevitably going to find themselves in and the potential nuclear exchange resulting from it? Why the hell did they create it in the first place then? I'm ignorant on this topic so I'm actually asking a question that I would like to have an answer to. It's not an indictment of NATO expansionist activity. Is it that it was either us (NATO) expanding or Russia expanding into NATO/ Western countries so that NATO expansion was in effect defensive?
Eastern European nations wanted to join NATO for protection from Russia so the joining NATO part is defensive on their part.
Wow this was amazing, my mind is BLOWN! Can't wait to order his new book
This guy is mostly a good story teller and that's about all.
what makes you say that?
Accurate or not when Peter challenges holy cow perceptions that have provided comfort for years the fear generates considerable push back but no rationale to challenge his refreshing patterns
Holy Cows make the best burgers 🤣
If he’s a good storyteller, then tell us why he’s the only person in geopolitics that saw it all coming 9 years ago? Even down to the month.
Everything the man talks about is viewed solely objectively and statistical.
@@briangrimmer8225 lol you got me.
Peter Zeihan did not address John Mearsheimer's argument in the slightest.
next time you have Peter on, I'd love to ask him about the reports that Putin was planning an attack on Japan!
Russia has a very small economy, about the size of Spain in terms of GDP. How can anyone expect that Russia would go into war with NATO or the US once they are done in Ukraine. Ridiculous expectation in my opinion.
Russia would set off some tactical nukes in Poland. What would the west do? Launch into Russia and the world ends....
My opinion exactly. How are they supposed to renew the huge Soviet arsenal, maintain and update the costly nuclear weapons and finance the far too large fleet?
How to finance the infrastructure in this huge country.
Nato enlargement has pushed it into a corner - now it is really dangerous.
Russia would be whipped by Nato ...in no time at all. This guy has been drinking some serious off the shelf cool-aid.
Russia doesn't want to go to war with Europe. Its America that wants such a war. However if NATO invades Russia they will be taken out with tactical nukes. Its an existential issue for the Russians.
As for demographic collapse just look at Germany, Italy, Britain etc. They only maintain their populations with third world migrant birthrates...and these people will not fight to defend Europe's civilisation.
Fear and anger makes us humans unable to listen and reason. When we believe we see others, we only see ourselves. Almost every word spoken by US government/thinktanks today, gives us a clear picture of what THEY are thinking/doing, but tells us nothing about the thinking/doing of russians.
Excellent interviewer and Peter is brilliant thank you!
Great conversation. Easily digestible info. One point I disagree with, as a teacher in NYC, saying russian and Chinese education is subpar is very inaccurate, education is one of the areas where they dominate us.
You have an unrealistic view of the world. You have bought the idea that the US has a poor education system and that China has more students than the US as meaning something. Reality is that the majority of people in China live on less than $1000 a year, live in third world rural areas and are not part of the shiny city lifestyle that is being sold. Russia is not much better with extreme levels of poverty being the norm. US education has some of the words best infrastructure.
@@bighands69 I'm an immigrant from eastern Europe, have friends from Russia and China, educators both working here and there, spent my life in education, I'm pretty sure I'm correct on this one
This was a great information session.I feel like I have a much better understanding about what is happening with Russia and Ukraine.
Problem is a lot has happened in the past year.
This fellow from Texas is fascinating
Great show!
When did you sit down with Peter for this episode?
3rd week after the start of the war
Ten months ago, like most people, he thought Russia will win.
A "million Russian soldiers in Ukraine by the end of the year". Let's put a pin in that prediction, shall we? They couldn't feed 1/5 that many for 4 weeks.
He is entertaining but I wonder if he ever owns up to past guesses off the mark.
That was something that caught my ear also. The Russians are having a devil of a time trying to supply the forces that they have already deployed, I doubt they could deploy a larger number of soldiers without stripping every other theater command of their trucks and rendering those commands immobile.
everything Zeihan says is so bombastic that I always have a hard time taking him seriously....until it happens. He has a pretty good track record. He has been saying that Russia was going to invade to plug those gaps he talked about for years.
Trump warned Angela Merkel about taking Russian energy. John Kerry, and she laughed at him. How did that work out? Maybe the world should listen to the "stable genius" once in a while.
4:35 You misspoke there Peter, the Russians had nearly a nuclear war with China, not Japan.
This guy is great! Keep this school of thought and we are very happy. Hint: I am from China. : P