Epiphone Les Paul Classic Worn (Affordable AND Good?)
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2021
- Epiphone Les Paul Classic Worn (Affordable AND Good?)
This is a fairly affordable Les Paul by Epiphone. Gibsons are known for not being cheap, quite the opposite. So is this a good alternative to the real thing? Is it a good guitar? Let's find out.
EDIT: It turns out the weird resonance was the truss rod after all, so that was very easily fixed.
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Turns out the noise was the truss rod after all. That was easily fixed.
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As for the buzzing/vibration issue, check the tuning machine bushing nuts on the face of the headstock. Also check the tuning machine button screws as sometimes those are loose from the factory.
Nice demo Elmo, seems strange to see you playing a LP style guitar!
@@hkguitar1984 Thanks! Turns out it was the truss rod after all.
@@MrPolevaulter Wow, I'm both surprised and not surprised.
I have a Vintage-V100 that does that but it is the tuning pegs, and also on some tune-o-matic bridges its the little wire that goes over the screws that buzzes
@@Healcraft Kevin, how do you like that V-100? I was looking at a V100P, I've just always liked the black LP guitars with P90 pickups.
I love the subtle squeal on the les paul epiphones. I think they are amazing guitars and hardly noticeable from the Gibsons (apart from the logo). And the sustains that comes with them are truly amazing.
resonance comes from the tunomatic bridge screws, I had the B string screw driving me nuts until I figured out what is was. Easy to sort out. Fantastic guitar. I play in the UK with a indie-mod band, people come to ask me what pickups I have installed, hard to believe this guitar sounds so great out of the box
It's cool that this comes with Alico Seymour Duncan humbuckers I priced then they sell on Sweetwater for $238 ...
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Its not $238 its $449
@@motorcyclemark2889 I think he refers to the price of the pickups he describes, not the whole guitar. I paid £429 for mine in the UK, from a high street music shop.
@@BearBearBearNERDFUN These aren't seymour duncans. They're Epiphone pickups based on the Gibson Classic 57s except with A5 magnets. Still pretty good pickups though.
I think it sounds great! Plus it was fun to see/hear you play a Les Paul style guitar just to change things up a bit. I hope you keep it. I’d enjoy hearing you play it every now and then in future vids.
I didn't keep it, but I did try another Les Paul that I did keep. Just have to upgrade the pickups.
Just bought a purple one of these and awaiting it to arrive. I'm a returning player after a gap of many years, so looking forward to getting to grips with this beast.
FINALLY! Somone who knows about Airplane. Bless this man.
Thanks for validating my purchase, Elmo. I have the same guitar in worn black and love it. I read a forum where someone compared the pickups to Gibson 57 classics and there was virtually no difference. Great guitar!
Yep.
Really? I should try one then...
Epiphone is killing it!
That Paul looks good on you Elmo. Wonderful playing as usual.
Thanks! Yep, they really made a nice guitar here.
I just bought the new Epiphone Les Paul Classic (full gloss finish), it was worth the extra $50 for the CTS pots, gloss finish and Phase switch. I think it's a GREAT guitar, worth more than it's asking price.
Nice review. I used to have an Epiphone Les Paul Custom several years ago; it also had that buzz around the middle D (5th string 12th fret open harmonic and also open D string) and the culprit was the neck pickup. I took it to a guy to get it set up and he repaired the pickup under factory warranty. As I recall, he had to cut and resolder the pickup cover back onto the backing plate. And he did a great job with the setup, too.
Before owning that Epi, I had always thought the Les Paul = sustain thing was mostly hype. Not so. That cheap, Chinese thing with its short-tenon neck had more sustain than a U.S.-made Flying V that I also had back then. Made me a believer. (I'd still rather have a Flying V than a Les Paul, though. Cooler-looking and better access to the highest frets.)
Very nice guitar, indeed! When you played jazz, you almost played the solo from Toto's "Rosanna" and you could use your MXR Microchorus for the Zakk's riff from "No More Tears". I was expecting some heavier sounds but it was a good demo!
Cheers George :)
That's a beautiful guitar!! Beautiful playing! It would be so useful for me and my videos
Very nice guitar :)
I had my knee replaced three November's ago. My teenage son (who is a metal head and pretty good at Guitar) asked me to get a guitar so he and I could learn and play together. So, my first guitar was an Epiphone LP Standard Cherry Burst. I was hooked. I loved the look and playability and the sound. Now if I could only play like EJK....
GREAT review Elmo. I will always have an Epi in my guitar rotation...
Thanks! Hope the knee is good now.
I hope ur knee gets better
Had to go watch that 'Airplane' scene again, classic! I always though it was a parody of 'Airport', but there's a youtuber Mason Wood who compares it to 'Zero Hour' 1957 almost word for word.
Absolute classic :D
I always know I can trust your reviews.
Mine doesn't have that resonance problem. I got the worn violet finish.
I have only gotten compliments about the guitar,and nothing negative to say about it either, but it still is heavy even with the weight reduction in the body.
I always enjoy your videos thanks for this one as well! Cheers 🤟🏻🎸🎶😎☮️
And thank you :)
Got me a purple burst last week . Looks and sounds awesome.
Any high frets? Fret buzz? I heard the quality control wasn’t great with them, so it’s a hit and miss.
@@YoursUntruly nothing to report but i did get a professional set up on it .
Thank you so much. It helped me a lot to choose the guitar.
Glad to hear that!
Great playing man. Nice LP.
love the Gary More sounds , I've got the Gold one !
I am actually OK with the "Clown Burst", my older Epi Alley Kat makes it work well. This one sounds very good.
Elmo, your strumming expertly "variants" of well known songs ... this anti-chicanery ability of yours is epic. :D
Haha :D Thanks :)
The bar scene is a classic
It's the truss rod 😜. Nice guitars at a reasonable price! I'm considering the classic worn gold. Thanks to Elmo for an honest review, every time!
Just confirmed the guitar I'm picking up next week is not a regret.... Epiphone Les Paul Honey sunburst classic here I come .. great vid sir
Cheers!
Sweet Gary Moore (at 6;00)! i want a low cost guitar with P90's but you made this one sound like a monster! *an Elmo "clean tone" pedal would be one to be desired
Haha :D I'd buy that pedal :D
I am going to buy one now! Heritage cherry oh yes!
That resonance rattle is probably the bridge wire. Easily fixed with clear nail polish after the guitar is intonated. I own the worn black one and did not have any issues at all. My favourite guitar at the moment.
That's what my luthier friend thought, but turns out it was the truss rod after all.
I believe the tone pots are coil split as well.
Hmmm..
I have an Epi LP Pro, a beautiful black one with pull pots for the pickups, and coil splitting. it's aged well over the last 5 years I've owned it and the white bonding is now a cream tone.
So, is this a better Epi LP?
No idea, since I haven't tried yours :D
I've the honey sunburst.. absolutely awesome guitar
That happened to me about the resonance that it says at the beginning of the video, but with the B string, it's a problem in the bridge and I solved it by changing the intonation part of the E string for the B string and I stopped doing the resonance, Apparently they don't put the thoughts where they go, or they don't make them different XD
Elmo, how would you define the worn finish? Has it a satin feel? Do you think it will strach or get dings easier than standard poly finish? Thanks
Not sure how I'd define it. Don't think it will get any more dings than a regular finish.
I prefer my Vintage V100 , it's PAF Humbuckers are the original design from Seth Lover , but your playing Elmo no argument ; your playing is brilliant
Thanks Brian :)
I just got mine today I love it I got it in worn gold
Just ordered one of these bad boys got the purple burst can't wait to get it
Cool!
Is it good? Im thinking in buying it, it would be my first LL and wanted some advice
@@nosequeponermedenombrexd6031 yes it's good. I liked the worn finish nice and smooth. The pick ups sound good it's not heavy the sustain is great and stays in tune
Great demo Elmo! But for some reason as I kept watching this vid, I was expecting to see the strat. Hahaha!
Haha :D
Great review...you use the strymon od at 6:00 ? before that was the amp unboosted ??
Yeah.
Great review, I’ll purchase one in two weeks, thanks for helping me decide between a SG and a Les Paul :)
Btw what compressor are you using?
For the video audio? A DBX, but I forget the model.
@@MrPolevaulter Hey, I finally got the guitar, thanks for your response, was asking cuz that sustain's pretty solid
@@jacobjaramillo9710how do you like it so far? I plan on buying this les paul
I have the worn purple classic and I also have a gold traditional pro IV. Ya it has a humm to em like that. Got brand new totally set up wrong I did best I could adjusting and new strings fresh tune, still happens.. but I love em.
was thinking of getting the trad or Classic Inspired,on the fence
@@matthewstearle7395 I kinda like classic better
@@BrokenFox9 thanks Frank,appreciate it
I just ordered a worn purple and an ebony Pro IV. A year later, what are your thoughts on both?
I have the same Guitar with the same strange "Buzz". I can't find the reason either.😅
I like the Coil Split Feature which you didn't spoke about.
I don't think this one had coils split.
@@MrPolevaulter
Well mine is the Classic Worn HC.
Even the Price was the Same.
As far i found out from the Epiphone Website, all Classic Worn have Coilsplit.
Not that i needed that that much but maybe one day i could think: Well a Strat Soundalike would be nice and i'm too lazy to pick my Strat...
That annoying resonance cames from the Bridge. I had an Epiphone Studio LT and it has the same problem. Great video as Always!
It was the truss rod.
@@MrPolevaulter Thanks for your answer. By the way, i just bought the Harley Benton Tube15 thanks to your review. It will be my first tube amp. Greetings from Chile Elmo!
I have one if those it was 450 usd it has a tiny sharpness to the top 6 frets. I cannot put the action down to gibson specs without more dead spots than not so the action is a lil bit higher than i normally like. My tech thinks the neck is set slightly wrong. I do its my couch guitar
Quite a nice couch guitar :D
Plis,dime qué guitarra estilo strato puede sonar como está epiphone?? Thanks you.
I'm tryin to decide between the regular and the worn. I've seen the classic has better electronics but I much prefer the finish on the worn
I’m torn on the worn
It's likely the bridge. The retaining bar on the saddles is loose. Either it or the saddle it is supposed to keep in place is vibrating. I've had this happen to me on an epi les paul custom before and it baffled me for a few months as well. I started with the tuners, then the truss rod... then I tightened all of the nuts on the electronics, even taped down all the wires thinking one of them might be the issue. I was about to change the toggle switch thinking that was rattling when I saw the issue with the bridge. ;)
Truss rod.
Thanks for the high gain stuff.
No problem :)
Great video sir. I tried one of the epi studio black metal things and it was quite good. I was shocked at how good it was. Great time to buy a guitar. When J was a kid I would have died for some of these products. Back then, there was Fender, Gibson, and mostly really horrible japanese made things. Not all of them, but many were really cheap and it felt that way.
Jazz. ? I'd rather watch paint dry then listen to Jazz. 🤣
Always good stuff here sir.
Have my first covid shot. Maybe the world will be open for business and you can come to the states and start your world tour since you're getting rich here on YT. 🤣🤣🤣😉
Be safe my friend!
Haha :D Quite a bit to go to getting rich on UA-cam :D
@@MrPolevaulter 🤣🤣
I think your YJM just got mighty jealous playing that Paul. I got a 2020 Epi 59 reissue. Man..Epiphone come a long way over the years..and yeah...most needs a basic setup out the box. Great guitars though. Lots of pros using them to tour with instead of hauling their 10 .20..30 grand Gibson's around. Are you using analog or digital delay on your vids out of curiosity? On another note. I played strats and an SG1 for almost 35 years. Switched to Paul's a few years back. It's a totally different monster. Esp at the heel on the neck playing lead. Whew.
Yeah, nice guitars. I use the Strymon Timeline with an analogue preset.
Very like epi les paul guitar...moreover if the pickup swap with seymour duncan, gibson, or whatever you want..it become the badboy 😎🤘🤘
Damnation! I bet these will sell like hotcakes after people see this review/demo. Great stuff!
Thanks!
You taught me something today. So - A maladjusted truss rod can cause resonance. It sounded like fret buzz on the video. Watch that neck. I have a broken Epiphone neck given to me for another future project.
It did have a bit of buzz as well, but nothing major. Yeah, I've had that truss rod thing on another guitar once.
Hey there, "seed ruiner", have you ruined any seeds today?? Nice guitar for the $$ I bought one second hand about a decade ago from Korea for $200 Australian and I actually asked him if he wanted more for it as it seemed pretty low price wise but he'd just gotten his Gibson LP and was happy to part with it as he had his new best friend. I gave that guitar to my younger brother and he still loves playing it as do I when I visit him. Epi's are great guitars and not at all a budget brand, knock off of Gibson in my book. Nice playing Elmo though there was a lot of notes in there you seed ruiner, lol.
Haha :D The seed is ruined :D
I'm waiting for my new Epiphone Les Paul Classic Heritage Cherry Sunburst the shiny one I can't wait .
So now I have a Gibson les Paul Classic clear red 2020 model lovely.
I watched this and bought it love for the money
I have one and love it
Cool bananas :)
Would you suggest me to take this or Ibanez grx70qa as my 1st guitar ?
Totally different guitars. However, try before you buy.
I have just bought one of these…. Mine has coil tap on both pickups
It is good and a nice guitar which is affordable.Easy to handle and play .It is only for fun .Gibson is perhaps better and more expensive and better materials .My Epiphone Les Paul classic black and worn is excellent.Bought it few days ago brand new .It needs surely a setup but I’ll find out .
Awsome looking guitar
Yep :)
I wonder what would be your opinion on new harley benton sc-custom plus emg. Similar price to that epiphone and the same type. This epiphone sounded dark at the begining of your review. Was that strymon that made sound better? After all it sounds really nice.
I have a review coming of the regular version.
@@MrPolevaulter great! :)
Nice looking guitar 🎸
And plays nice too :)
7:02 that sustain tho, is it feedback?
so was the weird resonance due to too little relief ? you say it was the trussrod, but what excatly did you do ? thanks in advance :)
Tightened it a bit.
Hey, so you state in the description that it was in fact the truss rod causing resonance, can you detail the fix?
Just tightened it a bit.
It comes from the tuner washers. At least I had to tighten them.
It was the truss rod.
Does it stay in tune???
You're my favorite Finn after Jorma Räty!
The noise is lock bar tail peice
Wolf tone. Most likely the tail piece or bridge needs to be heavier.
Try to tighten the bolt on the bridge.
Turns out it was the truss rod after all.
What pedal gave you that sustain?
Strymon Riverside.
LesPaul guitar you have to play Gary Moore parisienne walkways. It is made for that.
Now lespaul fly bites Elmo...
Great sounding guitar.
Yeah, a bit of Moore on a Les Paul is definitely called for :)
@@MrPolevaulter niin ja mun mielestä tämä kitara kuulostaa paremmalta, kuin noi ynkkä stratot, makuasioita? UA-camn algoritmit kyllä pakkaa musiikin joten siellä päässä soundi on erilainen.
Onko näin vai onko hifikorva väärässä? Kattonut aika paljon näitä videoita ja Epiphone lespaulin soundi on musta Top3 ? Joka tapauksessa yllättävän hyvä ja eikös nämä ole uutta tuotantoa ja lupasivat parantaa laatuaan...
@@kipponi Kyllähän se vähän muuttuu, mutta kyllä niistä osviittaa saa tubenkin kautta. Makuasioita juu 😊
the strange resonance could be the strings might be hitting behind the saddles on the bridge. Between the tailpiece and bridge. Maybe can adjust the stop tail so the strings don't touch back there
@Ben Hackett yep that can even happen on an expensive LP
Turns out it was the truss rod after all.
Elmo...oh no you didn't...did you seriously combine Back in Black with Hava Nagila, or some other Malmsteenian inspired Mid Eastern riff?? That Sir is a flagrant violation of the Minor Pentatonic Code, and your sentence is to watch that scene in the movie Crossroads where Ralph Machio pulls out a blues phrase at the end of his classical piece during a class at Julliard? And his teacher hassles him..yep you have to watch that 5 times ⏲️🤣....incredible playing as usual, I need your picking technique, Bruce
Haha :D Have to watch that movie. It's been ages since I've seen it. I wonder if I even have it.
You should compare this Les Paul with the guitarnet.se version of their Les Paul copy that's priced at the same range as this Epiphone Les Paul...
The brand is Green, and you should know that it is an surname here in Scandinavia and not the English color.. 👽
Thanks for the tip. I checked out the site. I might just order something from there.
$449 in the states
Do they have coil splits
Can't remember.
Truss rod, same failure on my Gibson. Adjust good to go...I think it's too loose
Yep. That's what it was.
If you make a bone nut from a cow humerus your guitar will sound funny...April fools!
I have a honeyburst Epi Les Paul that had that same annoying buzz on the B and hi E open strings. I stuck a bit of cotton bed sheet under those strings at the nut and it stopped. I replaced the nut and problem fixed. I looks like the nut slots were either cut too deep or too wide.
I have a Rickenbacker 360 with the vibrato tailpiece and the guitar buzzed like that. Drove me nuts. Turns out the screws on the bridge for adjusting the intonation wore out the holes where the screw ends sit and several of the saddle screws were rattling. I think the vibrato rocking the strings back and forth caused it. The intonation has only needed adjusting a couple times in 40+ years.
Yeah, that buzzing would have driven me nuts. Turns out it was the truss rod after all.
Sound is the most important thing. But I can't past that terrible looking sunburst. Not the matte finish--I hate a very distinct yellow-to-dark red burst, looks cheap. I'm sure it's a nice guitar, the new Epiphones are very nice.
I must be the only human on Earth who doesn't like the song played at 6:00 because I swear, EVERY youtuber plays it
How about Epiphone standard?
Haven't tried it.
mostly the bridge makes noise..
So need to change the bridge?
This one is beautiful but i prefer edwards lp or vintage lp
Turns out it was the truss rod after all. Put an edit in the subtitles.
Elmo was the truss rod loose or was it a different truss rod problem that caused the buzzing?
Hi.. Mr.E,why not just buy a used Les Paul standard? You could play for a few years sell for what you paid,buy a strat. Haa I really dig those standard double cuts, something like that I would keep
I did keep a Les Paul, just not this one. Probably a video on that one coming next week, or the week thereafter.
I hope it’s good
Just dropped $500 on one
Hope you like it :)
Go for $1K+ in Oz! Great axe tho!
Ordered one off eBay 850
@@danielpaddonshealingspace2481 Good price!
Neck is described as "slim C"....does anybody know if it is an actual C shape as opposed to those weird D shaped necks that Epiphones have used on their guitars for years and that are unplayable IMHO?
Not sure.
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍👍👍Gary Moore is perfect sound
$449 here
The buzz would be a return for me... I think it goes to show that Epiphone haven’t got it right yet.... Its a shame as I had an Epi LP Custom about 30 years ago, and that was a constant source if frustration... They just army good enough, and other companies do better copies.... If I were to do it all over I would have just saved up sooner and got the guitar I actually wanted....(I got one a few years later).
I know thats harsh....
...but you have no idea how bad an experience ive had with this brand!.
The only Epi Im interested in is a master built Casino.
Turns out it was the truss rod. Just tightened it a bit and the resonance was gone.
@@MrPolevaulter Ahhhh... I mean that's good if the rattle was just a loose truss rod... but that would still concern me.
I do love a good LP but unfortunately I have yet to try an Epi that felt like a LP in the hands and then of course actually sounded like one...
I know they have made a few good steps in the last few years but until they get the break angle at the headstock right I think they are just a waste of money... I have an Orville by Gibson '58 Plain top' now and wouldn't swap it for any Gibson..... OK maybe Jimmy Page's Black Custom.
@@MrPaolo101 Haha break angle at the neck right? You actually WANT to downgrade it?
@@circedge Im not sure if you are just a troll and/or far more outspoken than you are informed?.... ;)
CLOOOOOOOOOOOOWNBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURST!
epiphone is like good no name shred guitar benton little better
Price: Epiphone = Gibson / 5
Fantastic demo as always, on a totally unrelated Bee Gees note, have you seen this:
ua-cam.com/video/J1p5zOM96f0/v-deo.html
Haha :D Good one :D
Epiphone is crushing it.
Yeah, very nice :)
And that’s where the subject ends! Good for the money!!!!!!! Meaning not really up to the mark!!!
You only really get what you pay for. Life’s lesson we all have learned.
Tough to say. I'd have to compare it to an actual Gibson. Not too familiar with those. That being said, I got another Les Paul for less that I liked more. Needs a pickup upgrade though, so it will be as much as this. Video should be out next week or the week thereafter.
@@MrPolevaulter I just acquired a Harley Benton sc 550 emg pups for 335.00 English pounds inc vat and import duty.
It is made in Indonesia from thomann of course and I am shocked tbqh as it is an unbelievable instrument. Perfect build and the neck is very much on par with my les Paul custom shop and Sg standard. Rolled polished edges, ultra buzz free action. It’s sound is in between the former guitars I have mentioned. Lovely locking tuners, I just can’t believe it. I actually love the neck cut at the top it just helps on the upper register so much more than the les Paul shape, also I feel the headstock angle is a little shallower as well. How did they do it.
I do think these made in Indonesia models have gone to a level competing with guitars four times the price. Wow.
@@aliengrey6052 Cool!
Paint job looks awful.
?
it does but its on purpose. Thats the "worn" in Classic Worn. so not glossy