NOTES ON THE VIDEO: Edit: I feel like the video seemed biased towards Genshin because I only talked about WuWa Should’ve also mentioned that Genshin’s community is also just as bad I just personally haven’t had problems with them here on UA-cam; but that’s not too discredit of them of their toxicity, because they most likely started it 😂. I should have elaborated on leaving WuWa, i’m just not gonna play it on the channel anymore because I’d rather stay away from toxicity and not cause more drama. I’m a content creator so I have to be somewhat involved with the community at least on UA-cam, so it’s kinda hard to make content on it when it’s just gonna be chaos in the comments about a single opinion and then the rest of the video is just completely ignored. However, off-line I will probably still play the game because I wanna go through encore storyline and maybe check out 2.0, but because bc of the fanservice I may not stay, or just completely skip storylines but I’ve been hearing Kuro is gonna chill on it so ima wait and see what they do! Thanks for watching and Subscribe! We’re so close to 1,000🎉🎉
Stay strong man. Ignore those not so friendly comments. It's sad that you're glazing ww and still got bashed by ww fans. 😂 Maybe next time you can glaze genshin to bait those ppl, ez 100k views. 😂😂😂
i understand yay dude, the fan severice thing makes them feel like we got a dam hearm of people with the personality of a rock...maybe not a rock but they are one note and their story involves the mc to much
y'know whats crazy? lately, genshin's community has been more chill than wuwa's, i don't even know how, it's been UNBERABLE, it kills my will to play the game, and i liked it, somewhat, i got to union level 61 and certain aspects of the game are really good after properly trying both, wuwa is not even that much better than genshin, matter of fact i think genshin's better (but i mean its obvious that game has 4 years of content), i think the problems with wuwa's community right now is the toxic positivity that resembles what genshin had at the beginning, and the incapability of accepting criticism towards the game. with this i mean, if you say "oh genshin sucks" to a genshin fan, its very likely that they'll agree and go like "fr this game is so ass", I WOULD SAY IT, i've done it lol, if you say that "wuwa sucks" to a wuwa fan? not only they're going to go full on of why wuwa is a masterpiece, but also they're gonna mention genshin, EVEN when you weren't talking about genshin, and it gets tiring even if you're not a genshin fan, its younger brother behavior, that needs to stop, its just stupid, but again this is subjective, wuwa has some aspects that are indeed better than genshin, like you said the gacha aspect of the game is superior, some players would value that more, me for example i don't care, i play the game for the game, not for rewards, thats why i'm about to quit star rail, its more "generous" than genshin but its so repetitive and the story is so boring. also, good luck with your channel! all the best, the quality of the stuff you upload is very good 🙏🙏
@@NFYT to begin with, you're comparing a very old and mature(community-wise), to a very VERY new community. and genshin community also shit dumped on wuthering waves before it got even released, which would be what i think is one of the reasons the new community WILL be feasty and protective of their new favorite game(same as genshin community being protective of their game). The problem i see is that the genshin community has been SO DAMN TRAINED by hoyoverse to be in a toxic relationship and that they SHOULD be okay with that. Compensations, Anniversaries, Rewards, Balances have ALWAYS been fought for by the community from the start but hoyoverse dont give a FUCK, until a genuine outrage is out(Zhongli situation for one). Now the genshin community is VERY TOLERANT even if hoyoverse give dried bread crumbs and they'll be very happy("better than nothing" mentality). Its a very toxic relationship and genshin community is projecting that A LOT on to other gacha games that "do better" than hoyoverse ever did for YEARS(not just wuwa). I've played genshin since the damn beta(before fontaine release) and have sentimental attachment to the game, but playing and being with the community just feels toxic, so i forced myself to stop. Now fast forward to Wuwa, the game feels like a damn reward after all the gacha games I've played(not just genshin). It is a very, very refreshing experience to feel heard playing that game. I don't play it just as much since I distance myself from gacha games now, but Wuwa deserves the praise it get. And here's the thing, genshin has no excuse to be the way it is. There other games are getting a heavens difference of treatment, why should genshin be treated any different. That said, pointing to there or that community shouldn't be the way people see and compare things. The game itself and developer to player should be the reference on what the actual point. Bow
@ doesn’t even have to do with what i said brother, you see what i mean? Even if i’m not talking about that people always come with “wuwa so good genshin bad”, you talk about how genshin community started dumping on wuwa, yet it were a lot of wuwa players calling it yet again the genshin killer, aswell as some PGR fans that hold a grudge with genshin because PGR didn’t got as popular (believe it or not). And not only that, but the complains you are telling are very dated, which is another thing, you say the game gives crumbs, okay now they’re giving a lot more rewards and they have been steadily giving a lot of QoL and improvements into the game, what will it be now? That it took them too long, and that wuwa did it since the beginning, it will never be enough, that being said, IM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, im talking about the community, and wuwa doesn’t feel as good as y’all said because, for instance, the game came out with way more problems and stuff that should’ve come since the beginning and that genshin itself already had, stuff like being able to swap your teams and gears in the endgame, or maybe stuff like the game coming out in a playable state, because wuwa came out very undercooked, and about whether they listen or not? Its relative too, people have been saying to reduce the cooldown for the bosses and they haven’t done that, its like if they purposefully leave stuff undone to release it later and get praised for it, and its actually wild because a lot of aspects of the game leave a lot to be desired, and then people wouldn’t talk about it, which is the toxic positivity i was talking about, which is a problem that not even genshin community has nowadays, why do you think they be complaining even about the characters color skins? But thats about it, i don’t want to discuss ts over and over, see how it got into me even when i wasn’t talking about it and my point was the community? And also, i have noticed that you legit just came to this channel TO ATTACK GENSHIN?? Which is crazy? Like c’mon brother, people can see what you are responding in youtube… you’ve become part of the problem too, y’all take it too seriously y’all praise WAYY too much a multi millonaire company, y’all start yapping about other stuff when its not even the point being discussed, shit like that, is what lead this man to quit wuwa… And now that i reread it is so funny because i be saying “yeah i think wuwa’s community is way too positive and can’t take hate” and see how you come out? “YEAH BUT GENSHIN REWARDS HUH? WHAT ABOUT THE REWARDS? FINALLY FEELS GOOD TO HAVE A COMPANY THAT LISTENS (even tho genshin already releases QoL and even gave a 5 star but lets ignore that), ohh but what about genshin community? Y’all accept shit”, again, little, brother, behavior, the things i was talking about just now, i’ll leave it there
Reminder that most of wuwa community are ex genshin n hsr player....so it not weird how wuwa being labelled as toxic....like the word "genshin could never" was originally created from HSR fandom itself due to genshin community trashtalk to HSR games before released
Yep, I'm a day 1 Genshin player and I moved to Wuthering waves. I still play other games, but I invest more time on WuWa now. Kurogames offered better QoL and better gacha rates (I can't believe how generous this game is)
If one of the factors that made you quit Wuthering Waves is the community, you already lost the battle from the start. I, as a player who played all of Hoyo and Kuro entries (PGR, WUWA, ZZZ, GI, HI3, HSR) don't even care about their communities except for character highlights. Most gaming communities have this level of toxicity, especially the most famous ones like in MOBA genre. Having to care what people say about what to play is what I really hate coz why gatekeep people when they can do whatever they want. It's like me that if I cared about the hate r/Gachagaming had with games of Kuro, I wouldn't play PGR coz I got swayed by them. That's all.
Yeah, I understand that I shouldn’t care about what people say, but the problem is that I’m a content creator and those people make almost all of the comment section and I just don’t want that toxicity to be apart of my community. I would completely agree with everything you said if I didn’t make content on the game, it’s just kinda hard to make videos when every comment is just gonna be more hate, so I rather just move away from it because I don’t want any drama, I just like making videos about games, I don’t solely play genshin or wuwa. Honestly I rarely ever play genshin the last video I made is me playing it after a year, and before that I was a very infrequent player.
@@diamondfire21 TBH, it's not that you lost from the start because you quit due to the "Community", Your error, In my Opinion, was thinking people showing a lvl of toxicity high enough to make you wanna quit are actually part of any community, or even fans of the game for that matter, some people just like to think they represent a group and don't bother to add "I think" or "IMO" to what they say and speak like they're throwing facts. General haters go back and forth between communities saying they are part of one and then the other and if you fall for that then NOW it would be your lost. You make a video and you get a couple of people whose only argument is diminishing remarks about you for not liking what they like? You just wait a bit more for comments of actual real people 😂 (of course, as a CC you do try to answer them if possible, but never actually thinking they are serious about what they say.) This apply to both GI and WuWa, it's just that since GI has more years building their player base, you get a lot more sub communities forming around the game, meaning that you have more chances to touch a landmine and trigger people's fragile egos than you would in WuWa but I firmly believe that GI core community is as good and wholesome as any other core community of a gacha game, just people playing the game.
@@Gacha-Ritual-Master Yeah I realize that now 😅I wish I would of made my opinions in that video a little more clear tho, it probably would of lessened the backlash. But ur a real one for the comment, I'm not set on leaving Wuwa just yet, my only other issue is fanservice and Kuro is hinting that they're gonna lay off on it so I'm gonna stick around and see how that goes 👍
@@diamondfire21Hey just see it as more engagement for your videos. Any comment is a good comment if you're trying to grow. It's not like you need their approval, you just need their clicks. Its a lot eaiser to ignore them if you see them as an unwilling little helper.
Interesting that you only complain about Wuwa's community, while Genshin players have been hating on Kuro and its players even before the game released. Just saying, maybe you attract comments from the worst part of the community due to how bias you can be in your videos.
This is exactly what I’m talking about… never did I mention anything good about the Genshin community nor did I side with Genshin, What I said is that the WuWa community is exactly like ur comment and I don’t wanna be apart of it, the Genshin community is also terrible, I’ve heard some horrible things they but I rarely ever play the game so my complaint is completely valid.
@@diamondfire21part* of the wuwa community. I don't think they meant to start a fight for nothing tho , doesn't look like a toxic wuwa comment to me . They were just trying to keep you accountable , because it should have been mentioned.
@@diamondfire21 Theres 2 things that Id disagree with. First, even by not mentioning the genshin community directly, you are still implying by omission if you are talking bad about one but not the other, in a comparison video. Second, the reason you might see haters from the wuwa community is because of majority takes that they disagree with. Cant expect hoyo shilling wuwa haters to complain in a vid thats agreeable to them can you? So I dont see how you can be surprised about the outcome of the comments received. And tbh this one wasnt even toxic. Pointing out a flaw in ur presentation is not toxic, and neither is disagreeing with u toxic.
@@diamondfire21 Does your friend play Genshin and think Wuthering has too much? Cause the 1.0 of Genshin was full of memes with Lisa moans. I'm not calling him hypocrite but unless moaning is not that hot for him, it's weird nevertheless.
I’ve only played the very beginning of Genshin and It was pretty clean, the only weird thing was probably Lisa, but that was a pretty short story, I haven’t really gotten far in the story I’m still in the part when u first meet Xiao (yeah ik it’s pretty far behind 😅) usually just explore the world and do some shenanigans
@@diamondfire21 dw, I was really far behind in Genshin and I started on the 1.0 But I never learned how to level up easily and stuff until Sumeru got released and I turbo speed until Inazuma. Then I stopped. Then Natlan was about to start and I turbo speedran one Filler Area and Sumeru. (Fontaine got behind)
As a wuwa and genshin player, both communities are toxic. Saying you’re quiting wuwa because of the community is odd, saying that ive seen more hate from genshin players tbh
genshin has a fuck ton more players and it shows in those cases. I agree that both have toxic people. Toxic in this case being : player of a game who will go on spme content of the "competitor" just to shit on it. I remember when Wuwa was about to release, many OFFICIAL trailers wer eliterraly removed from r/gachagaming because of haters downvoting it on masse so the automod was removing the post. I rarely saw shit like this for other games. This game is a hate magnet for the Hoyoshills(not the casual players, they dont even care about this and all the power to them, they do the right thing). But Kuroshills also exist unfortunately. So yeah, both are toxic but its very easy to not give a shit to tghem. It's not like in a MOBA or some pvp team game where you HAVE to interact with the playerbase to get things done.
Yeah, I need to specify in the video that I’m only quitting playing it on the channel. I don’t know about off-line either though because of the fan service, I’ll probably still go through like encore’s story line.
@@diamondfire21there's a mistake , there's no fanservice. if you are talking about the love for MC then it's not a fanservice. some of the love for MC are not love , it's the developing the "emotions" that the character lacked because that character is not a human. this is about shorekeeper. about camellya , if you have played her story quest you'll know that she and the rover were pretty close back in the day, and that she was overclocked. everyone will say it's fanservice or too much MC harem if they don't understand the story/lore or completely skip the story.
@Sudhanva_K_U Different people have different ideas of what fanservice is either because of ethics or something else. I just think many of the game’s characters are too revealing and it’s unavoidable.
I agree , wuwa graphics are sharp and more realistic , genshin's are cartoonish . Edit : i'm not slandering genshin guys , it's doing what it wants to do very well graphics wise ☠️
@@Spacecowboy1997 LOL, yeah ok, go back to killing timmy's pigeons and slowly climbing up mountains while you *** off to paimon and your little tiny baby game. "designed better" thats pretty funny tbh. you have to buy characters for half decent traversal that is standard in wuwa, have fun losing your pity on weapon banners and watching all the mid designed characters they got on the way, kiddo
As a Wuwa player, I'm sorry for how some acted to ya. heres a small tip. Dont listen to the community or whatever goes on in it cuz it would just not make the game enjoyable anymore. It was the same reason why I left genshin along with other stuff. At this point just play what you enjoy playing! If you want you should try PGR since its made by the same people that made Wuwa, its pretty fun and have some challages too. Plus not to mention it's server is going to be catch up with CN server (which is a year ahead) and we going to have a new patch on the Dec 4th.
As one of the rare souls who enjoy Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact, I'm fully aware of the people you speak of. I just refuse to let toxic people steal my enjoyment of anything. 😅
This guy must be living in an alternate universe that he has no idea how toxic genshin fans are. If you have to compare the toxicity of genshin players to wuwa, it's like comparing a god to a cockroach. 🤣
Most of the community is chill af xD. Just because i have seen Wuwa players mostly talk shit about genshin doesnt mean all Wuwa players are toxic does it?
Majority of WuWa fans I have seen talk about the game were throwing a jab or outright hate on another game. Imagine a game being so sh*t that every time you talk about it you need to put down another game just to feel little bit better about yourself and the game.
Welp, toxic community is everywhere. I know wuwa have some toxic part on the community itself. Tbh, I am one of them before. That's just because I love genshin too much maybe. Nowdays, when I don't really care about genshin and just focus playing wuwa, I'm pretty much chill. And I also see a ton of shits thrown to wuwa from genshin community itself (since I can say myself kinda hardcore player on genshin and kinda active looking on hoyolab posts and stuff) So yeah, the toxic part of wuwa kinda triggered by how much people shitting on wuwa even before launch, and then on launch, wuwa got a rough start and people keep shitting on it, it's like an attempt to "kill the competitor", now when wuwa have stable enough, they say things like "revenue is small, game is dying" and stuff
yeah wuwa has way too much fanservice and the story nosedived and because of the fanservice they got a community of toxic gonners and incels, it´s sad but the devs did it to themself
you can't really blame Kuro for the fan service because thats what CN CBT player wants, the story of CBT is so much different than now - like people in Jinzhou doesn't even trust the MC a little bit, and at the start of the game, Chixia literally pointed a gun on you, so yeah lets blame it on CN CBT players 😂😂😂
Best way to enjoy yhe game is not interacting with its community, unless you want some gameplay tips from hardcore players. From all gachas I've played, Hoyo dudes and WuWa are the worst by far.
no hate to you, I get the fan service part but WHY do people leave a game because of the TOXIC COMMMUNITY? a game like wuwa doesn't require you to play online soooooo in my opinion if you like a game then stay away from online communities, no? I mean I feel like it's just that simple. I personally have never joined a community other then WUWA official Discord for news and updates. or am I missing something? I mean it's the internet. there will be shit heads crawling everywhere.
Yeah, I’m gonna leave a disclaimer saying that I’m not gonna play on the channel anymore because of the community. off-line is a different story but I might not play it because of the fan service. I heard the news 2.0 a lot better so I’ll have to see.
@@diamondfire21 yeah, I'm very interested in seeing how they will pull off this vibrant city but still maintain a post-apocalyptic vibe kuro has been cooking a lot lately, so I know they got it in the bag. but yeah, give the game a try in 2.0. I mean it looks like the fan service is minimal this time with the characters.
Fanservice in a gacha game is par for the course, its normal considering the majority market are male, heck even the fanservice games for women sell really well i.e love and deepspace. If you truly are unable to stand fanservice i think its perfectly fine to quit the game over complaining on and on about fanservice being in the game. Trust me, i've played gachas with way more fanservice than wuwa, wuwa is mild by gacha standards.
Considering how WuWa is just a few months old, I honestly didn't expect the size of their community to be big enough to faze Genshin's community. But it seems like WuWa is doing so well that it's becoming a threat it seems. The status quo has been broken, so conflicts like these are to be expected.
@@esquir-x3e where? you mean only in twitch right? Not to mention in both utube and reddit, wuwa have more subscriber than zzz. I don't know what the other social media tho.
ZZZ is still more mainstream, even as a WuWa stan. It is straight up gooner bait that uses every single trend, meme, and reference to appeal to zoomers. Burnice is a prime example, who burnt down and infested eveey single gaming community upon her release due to the sheer TikTok energy she carries @htet2002linn
Just in case, this is just my opinion and reasoning. So don't take it to heart. And forgive me right away. My native language is not English, so I can write the text in English a little.... badly First of all. Any community can be toxic in one way or another. The same Genshin community, for example. When I switched to WuWa and just talked on forums or social networks about my impressions and playing WoWU, I kept encountering Toxic opinions about the game. In the sense that the game is "shit", or that Genshin is better than WuWa, or that few people play the game and Gacha will die. And this was for no reason at all. I still see such opinions and trolls often write about this, but I just try not to take this opinion into account. I do not speak negatively about the game or criticize it in any other way. If I am asked, I just say that "I do not like Genshin. This is my opinion." Secondly. Regarding fanservice, I still think it's subjective. But yes, there are some problems. In fact, I like fanservice in WuWa, but I understand people who may not like it. That's why Kuro Games usually doesn't release it very often. On the other hand, let's look at Genshin and... it's strange to talk about fanservice when in the new region there are a lot of fanservice characters, which I would even call... excessive, that they lack logic. Once again, I apologize for my bad English. And I will note once again that these are just my thoughts and my statements. I do not want to offend anyone.
Since everyone has their say in the comments: I started playing wuwa a few days ago because of the game awards, and I just hope they calm down with the fan service thing, because it's the only thing that bothers me about the game. The rest is beautiful! It would also be nice if the community would stop comparing it to Genshin and appreciate it for what it is... But you can't have everything haha.
Comparison is good but most of what's on the internet is just baseless hate and ragebait from both sides. As if someone enjoying another game ruins their own experience 🤣
@@Zevassalc Camellya is the ultimate example. But it also happens with Jinhsi, the Shorekeeper... All with scenes and attitudes very attached to the main character, at least for me. I just don't like that... But I understand that there are people who like it and I think it's fine. Just my opinion, yeah.
@@bloqmayus camellya got a pass to me because she is completely crazy. Even since I noticed the direction they're going I started to skip all companion quests. I hope the new region they at least reduce this fangirling over Rover, otherwise I will also skip the story.
The community part is completely understandable. It happens in every game but it feels like HSR, Genshin and Wuwa suffers from this the most. They take any criticsm as "bad" when it can be either constructive or subjective and is hella annoying. I also wanna add something that I've seen PERSONALLY. The fanservice on this game wasn't as bad as others, I've noticed that they might make more fanserviceable models and clothes but the personality of each character felt different, unqiue and not so "fanservice". An example, Camellya. Sure, she was a yandere and sure she is a bit uncomfortable to see in screen, but her backstory and her story made me see her differently
Your previous video and this one proved how toxic wuwa community currently is. I feel like they both attracted much more wuwa shills then genshin shills. But Genuinely from my experience, wuwa community much more toxic in youtube while genshin community is more toxic in twitter. And somehow both communities are surprisingly okay in reddit. (They are all just gooners here)
About the bear: (and other red creatures) firstly those are supposed to be busted, but have a variety of levels, so some are very easy, they also respawn at a longer time spam, probably a week and aways in same places, secondly they dont aways give legendaries, but they have a very high chance to give the highest rarity avaliable, you just cant get a legendary echo before data bank level 15, this is explicited in data bank menu, which also affects the chance to drop echo and the chances for better rarities, and lastly those monsters have increased resistance to damage by default, and have weakness to dodge counters and intro skills, those will do fixed damage. Also during a dodge counter you become invincible, so when you dodged like 3 or 4 times in a row without attacking you were losing good damage.
Encore really want a big bro/sis so bad she reached out to your friend TWICE. XD Cool content though. Hard to find CC that's not farming through players hates toward another game nowadays. Even big CC like ahem, "TT" still farm through drama. You on the opposite do content only to give your honest unprovoked thought, and for that I really like this channel. I subbed you last time, and now I also click the bell. XD Looking forward for your future content!
it's cool when you can share a game with a friend, nice video ( ˊᗜˋ ) and omg fanservice is a no for me either, and i'm a bit tired with the relationships with Rover, so i'll decide if i truly want to keep playing with 2.0, i believe the feedback might take action from there onwards, if you decide to try that update it would be nice a video from you, also de community issue is always a thing with these games, sadly
@LutheRin1 well yeah, they were the part of the genshin community that always shit on everything hoyo did. Now, they turned into hypocrites and have a meltdown when people say shit about wuwa or kuro. They went from calling people hoyoshills, to praising god kuro
for us PGR players it's literally normal for us to get 5 star character so basically we already knew the game would give us night tier characters and btw yup the game literally give you higher tier character by just playing it lol
I rarely play Genshin anymore but I love both games. Genshin for its lore and Wuwa for its very dynamic combat system. I'm glad to see you guys still tried playing Wuwa. Oh well, everyone has their own preferences, what matters most is that we enjoy playing these games.
I had my genshin friend to play wuthering waves with me but in the end she didn't quite continue since she's solely focused on playing with genshin more lol, though she did say it was kind of good despite her being lvl 2
I feel genuine WuWa fans are not toxic. All the Genshin haters from WuWa I’ve met are mostly all ex Genshin fans who were extremely disappointed by the game and its lack of devs love. I honestly play both, Genshin is for the story because I’ve been there from the start at 1.0 with all the glitches and bugs it also had on release, WuWa is for everything. As for fan service, I feel people are using that term extremely wrong nowadays or did it change and I’m too old to realize? It was usually referred for sexualize content which WuWa only has giggle physics. Although the definition still says it’s for sexualization towards a target audience, Camellya being a tsundere and being in love with Rover isn’t fan service imo. Some scenes with her could be considered a bit fan service cause she’s does try to pull you close to her a few times, but the game itself isn’t, it’s just one character and it’s not anything related to showing her body, like most gachas or animes, just romancing gestures. The game has many chars and things, just one justified psycho girl in love wouldn’t make it fan service.
This, I'm actually surprised people were overreacting with shorekeeper too bc of the way shorekeeper is so fond of rover in a reasonable way, it's like any sort of admiration is fan service nowadays...sure wuwa had some moments with actual fan service but the game offers so much more than that and ofc these ppl don't care abt that
Just found this vid, all I can say is play the game, be it genshin or wuwa or others, if the community is toxic don’t join it but don’t let that stop u from enjoying the game. Only make sure u don’t burn yourself out from playing it. I hope u can come back to the game to play it for yourself
to be fair, wuwa 1.0 vs 1.4 is NOT the same game holyshit, 1.0 was bad for low/mid tier pc or in any type of phone, 1.4 is the real wuwa, 2.0 will be the real release of wuwa, so i dont blame anyone felt 1.0~1.1 was bad , but i definitely hope they give wuwa a second chance also the community part wuwa is kinda toxic but genshin community is TOXIC, basically they started the civil war first and act innocent after wuwa community fight back, so some may felt like wuwa is the toxic one, but actually it's not, they just fight back from what they get from. conclusion : both is toxic, but if you asked who started first? definitely genshin.
I dont play hoyo games, because I personally think that hoyo is a horrible company and I don’t wanna support them. Racism, loli characters, the recent voice actor drama, fan service, oversexualisation and misrepresentation of cultures and cultural outfits ect.
Hey, have you heard of PGR? I know it's not for everyone since it's not an open world but if you want more fast paced combat like WuWa but not have to deal with the toxic community then I recommend checking PGR out made by also Kuro.
4:16 nah, nah switching to this game from genshin is like finding someone better after that toxic ex, and staying FAR away from that toxic ex because you know you gonna go off on them and say some horrible $hit because they havent changed at all since you broke up lmfao
come on bro, paying a already existing acc is like placing a newcome player into SUMERU DERSET out of nowhere without even a hint on what the fuck is this game. It would be much nicer if you let him play the first couple of minutes to get the grip
The account came stock with only the characters you get from the beginning of the story, but you’re right it probably would’ve been a good idea to let him do the first few minutes on his own, then he would’ve been able to rate the combat better or maybe even the story. Edit; I only bought an account so we can do co-op
I didnt even know there was beef, I kept running out of resin and had a lot of free time (SHUT UP IM NOT GETTING A JOB) so I decided to get wuwa and my brain got brained out with the amount of lore and quality this game has.
As a genshin and wuwa player I have to admit that in a short period wuwa has release some incredible things! I stay with Genshin with Keching as my main DO YOU BELIEVE IT???😅 hahaha I have to love the character design and in Genshin even tho there a lot of characters I don’t quite like them and I recognize that in Wuwa I love almost every character design! I’m just saying this because not every player is looking for the same experience, I look for the design and the exploration experience, not for the communitys or multiplayer
Average Gacha Experience. Gambling addicted Capital G Gamers gotta gaslight themselves into thinking their "investment" in a gacha game was worthwhile, by either glazing on it, or hitting on others. Though again, loud minority issue. It's just people who check out the channel once, write an angry comment, and are never part of the community anyway.
All I want rover past cutscene from CBT. I want rover lore but all we get is saving girls and they fall in love with us. But can we at least talk to the cool looking dudes at least.
12:01, Have you heard of Rinascita? Basically the new characters are VERY LESS revealing and the artstyle is more colorful than dark for 2.0 Oh yeah, *NEXT UPDATE IS ALREADY 2.0!!!*
Community? It's not about wuwa/Genshin/Zzz .... It's most of the gacha community😢.....I play Genshin becoz sometimes i like that vibes..and i play wuwa when i like that kinda of vibes....and sometimes i play more games.... Communities are just made up like this...
Yeah I completely understand that but I’m a content creator so I have to be somewhat involved with the community at least on UA-cam, so it’s kinda hard to make content on it when it’s just gonna be chaos in the comments, so I’m just gonna not play WuWa on the channel anymore (don’t know about offline either bc of the fanservice, but I’ve been hearing Kurt says there gonna chill on it so ima wait and see what they do)
The 2nd reason i agree with you as you can't change what you don't like but the first reason makes no sense man, as someone who has been a part of both communities, I'd say genshin community is 100 times more toxic towards wuwa and in general which makes sense cuz the genshin community is much bigger than wuwa community but still.. saying that wuwa community is toxic but not even mentioning genshin community sounds really wrong. I wouldn't have said anything about it if this wasn't a comparison video,but it is and it makes no sense for this reason to be in this video.
Yeah, I realize that I should’ve mentioned Genshin as well. The video was more wuthering waves sided because we were playing the game but I should’ve mentioned that Genshin’s community is also as toxic.
My friend only plays genshin, she reopens wuthering waves, gets Camellia in like five pulls, and as soon as she starts using her she finally understands why I keep saying the game is amor optimized version of genshin.
if you understand the game of attack then you might also know only defenses can't protect the castle. Attacks are needed to defeand against gaints that would make them slower. ( In here, attack means toxic side of community) but also too much attack would destroy the castle itself. (I am in wrong video guys 😅 sorry).
I like that we were treated like somekind of fugitive in early chapters of Genshin while the girls are already fangirling the moment we woke up in WuWa.
Saying everyone in wuwa's community is toxic bc they don't like Genshin is hilarious bc of how many temper tantrums I see on the daily from Genshin players
Oh it's a shame you won't continue playing WuWa. I personally started playing it like a month ago and I think is the only Gacha worth playing. From gameplay to exploring, even latest companion quests are worth reading. It's weird that you mention fan service since I am yet to seen it in the game at all? But community does get a bit heated when comparing it with Genshin since most players are Ex-Genshin players that realized it's not for them. Hope you give WuWa another shot after 2.0 releases!
If you don't like Fan service then stop playing gachas my boy... because fan service will always be there in a subtle or direct way, I personally don't care as long as I like the game. Here's a strong advice for you: Play whatever you want, you are a content creator, not a slave at the disposal of whiny childrens. At the end of the day you will form a community that follows you for what you do and not what they tell you to do, you can take their suggestion to react ot try something, but that's it, Stop playing a game that you like because of the community it has, it doesn't make sense, don't become a slave and make content to please others. You can't and you shouldn't, be yourself and not what others expect you to be.
Yeah I’ve considered it, but it’s fine if it’s minimal and not pushed that much I can just ignore it, the gacha is the least part I enjoy, I mainly like the anime rpg and story that the games give. Edit: If there was something different that wasn’t gacha related I’d definitely play it
@@diamondfire21If not can play single player games you like, make series challenges etc, the point is that you have fun and form a community based in what you like to do :)
I played genshin for 3 years and never won a 50/50- I PLAY WUWA FOR WHAT? IDK HOW LONG ITS BEEN, BUT I WON MY FIRST 50/50 😭🙏🏽 and I got Carlotta, I’m so damn happy
I played both games, I can say that both community have toxicity. I feel like Genshin impact is really slow now after I played WuWa, the features on WuWa compared to Genshin are very far behind.
Love the way you addressed in community, they are not helping improving the game but are defending negative of the games 😅. Enjoyed your video. Also I respect the decision you nade at the end 😊👍
Reminds me when my friend gifted me Borderlands 2, and end up playing the game together. My friend quickly ferries me from one place to another instead of pacing myself by admiring the world, check out buildings for stuff and read a document. Ultimately Borderlands 2 didn't click to me and dropped it. Will get back to it though. This is what you've been doing to your friend, and even bought him an account depriving him of the initial hook of WuWa. You ferry him around to random points of interests instead of letting him pace himself, and it won't take long he'll drop the game, or he's already dropped the game. Video has good intentions, but terrible execution. Deserves a dislike.
Thankfully the interactions ive had with people who play wuwa have been pretty pleasant. Mostly just talking about how cool fanart is in the official discord. But id say the toxcitiy of the gacha community as a whole ramped up majorly in 2024. No one can simply enjoy a game online these days. Every other game has to be trash in comparison
i have a Ryzen 7 5700X with a 12gb RX6700XT 32GB of 3200mhz ram, and the game installed on a NVME 1tb drive, at 1.0, this game was a pain on the ass to run, the stutters were terrible and the game felt like running fuckyng cyberpunk at lauch
Bro is your pc unoptimized garbage? Im playing the game with ryzen 5 4600g with 8gb rx 580, 16 gb ram. With the storage of a fcking 1tb hdd. Besides the occasional stutter of my 5 year old gpu it still plays smooth as butter in my pc 😂 youre either lying or have a shit optimized pc
Welp, I have 5600 with 3060 Ti with 16gb ram on 2666, using 1440p display, at launch hard to maintain 60fps, now, it can run 60 while running hsr on the background 😂
Something is wrong with ur graphics driver same thing happened with my 6600 but after driver update its better 60fps locked with ur setup u can unlock 120fps
yeah 1.0 was terrible but i dont think it l terrible like Cyberpunk77 at launch lol (i have PREORDER CP77 back then in 2020 so i know how it feel) from what i check is just update my geforce and fixed no lag issue in 1.0 Wuwa and now i can play 120 max setting since 1.3 with my 3080+5700x
@@ikennshidu5070 the funny thing is that changing the game from the Sata SSD to the NVME one made the game run way better for some reason. Like... for most games like hogwarts legacy for instance, it is great, but the game run just fine on the normal sata SSD, on wuwa it made a lot o difference.
tbf both genshin & wuwa has different combat experience in new/mid game compare to endgame. The comparison could only be done once players really understand how to do rotation at this game and its purpose.
I am sorry to hear that you had a negative experience with the WuWa fanbase interactions on your last video. Unfortunately, I feel there is this great divide between the two fanbases of WuWa and Genshin/Hoyo that is going to be hard to bridge, though it may just be gaming/gacha culture in general these days. I respect your bravery and honesty with sharing your opinion, and I hope you find the game and community that best suits you, whether that be Genshin, WuWa, Everness, or otherwise. Have a wonderful day, and God Bless
Honestly the fan service might get better in 2.0. Kuro has been really receptive to player's feedback and 1.x stories are mostly planned out before they have a chance to fix them imho. I have hope that the story will get better in 2.x. Might be worthwhile to stick around for 1 more patch just to see how it goes :D Also you can skip story that you don't like. Some characters' story are really good (Encore for example are my personal fav) while others are more fan service (which you can skip to just get the rewards).
I’ve heard that encore’s story is really good, I’ll probably play through it, and the skipping is a good idea too. I’ll definitely will be on the watch for what they do in 2.0
You know, when I hear that WuWa has too much fan service, I always confuse it to them saying it has too many lewds and get perplexed like "Wait, with things like Nikke, Horizon Walker and even ZZZ around these guys cannot be serious right?" But I guess they mean that it has too many females "lusting" for MC or something? Which is completely wrong too though, only ones who have shown real interest towards MC are Shorekeeper (complete understandable) and she literally has recently started to develop emotions as a whole so that's that, and the other would be Camellya but I don't think what she wants is what everyone thinks 😂 After those two maybe Yangyang but that's just standard beginner waifu behavior IMO so I don't really get where does the "Gathering Wives" monicker came from, if helping female characters with their problems equals they love you then I have lost some faith in humanity 😂
I'm not sure about the thing that wuwa is fan service game. People usually think like that if they don't follow main story quest or just skip everything/important dialog. Or for ur case, that u too familiar with how genshin story work ( they didn't focus on main character much and more about the world building) Meanwhile wuwa focus on MC. To be fair, maybe I'm biased to wuwa and it have some fan service, but I don't think it that much to calling wuwa fan service game.
Those are some pretty weak reasons to quit the game ngl: 1) You're really going to let others influence the reason you play the game? Like at least quit because you didn't enjoy or your PC couldn't handle it and not because you couldn't handle a few people saying mean things you couldn't handle. 2) I've always found it weird when people say they don't like fanservice and expect anime and anime games in extension to not have them. Their business model is BUILT upon and make money off of fan service. Some are just more tame or raunchy than others. Project Mugen is going to be the same. What you're looking for is probably not in anime/gacha games but in Western games
The reason I’m quitting is a little different than that (probably should of specified in the video). I’m a content creator and it’s kinda hard to build a community of my own when all the comments are just gonna be hate, (I also don’t want any drama) so it’s better if I don’t make videos on the channel anymore; however offline I’ll probably still play the game and go through some stories like encore’s. The fanservice thing is just because of my morals and I just don’t like it. I know they’re are anime games and just games in general that don’t have it or have a negligible amount of it to where it’s not shoved in ur face every time u open a menu or play a story. It also doesn’t have to be anime games, I just Gravitate towards anime games because I myself watch anime.
@@Zora72954 different people think differentlly, I’m very religious and in my perspective any fanservice is bad (no matter real or fake) it’s more religious ethics than self made morals
@@diamondfire21 but how is it bad? this is whats always confused me about religions. whats wrong with a bit of skin? and if its fiction why is it still bad?
@@Zora72954This is why I think it’s bad: I’m a Protestant Christian and I believe in the Bible, and in the Bible Jesus says that whoever lusts (via anything) or looks at something with lust in their heart, he says it’s the same as adultery, he calls lust a sin. The reason sin is evil is because it perverts and corrupts things that God created. If you wanted to know like “why should a book tell u what to do?” or “Who is Jesus?” you’d have to do some reading on ur own, the Bible would tell you most of it, but it would be very helpful to read some theological explanation on it from outside sources. Also sorry if I wrote a little too much, if you really wanna like understand where I’m coming from the sources I said above should help u. Again the game is really cool and I really like the graphics, adventuring, combat, and scenery, but the fanservice is just something I don’t want to see or interact with. Thanks for being interested tho! Glad u watched the video, got a new one cooking up soon I’m actually gonna stream tommorow at 6pm est (Final Fantasy VII remake) it’s gonna go so hard 🥹 never played final fantasy before
Yea both game are good and combat for both game is cool but one problem in Genshin Impact whyyy so unlucky I never got 5 star character in Genshin Impact only got Ayaka lol and wuthering wave got shorekeeper jinshi encore camellya which I needed I always get sad when pity system 😢
Lol I'm the reverse I've ran into so many toxic genshin players that I don't even want to attempt playing it they get so fucking butt hurt over nothing I'm good
The people who support both games are too busy playing the games than going online social media to post about it. In other words, the online toxic trolls have no life and feels the need to comment negativity on everything.
if they are too busy playing a game to use social media and talk about the game they like then they have an extremely unhealthy obsession and need help. people that say this crap are dumb and dont understand how others actually play and enjoy games lol
@@Zora72954 And here you are replying to a random comment with trash talking. Indeed very unhealthy of you, loser. Go to bed and touch yourself for relief, won't you?
Never thought i play genshin until my friend force me to play and i got hook up to it for 2 years. Now im considering to play wuwa, can someone tell me what are the appeal of it except graphic?
As you mention in you notes on the video toxicity and gatach comunities do go hand in hand, sadly. With WuWa it's a bit of a special case since it's the first real alternative in the open world action rpg + gatcha genre (tower of fantasy is more of an mmo so I see that as a related but different genre). So what you get are a lot of people with pent up frustration who could not voice it before cause their previous toxic comunity would have backlashed at them for speaking their mind. By now doing the backlashing themselves they might be able to finally vent that frustration but in doing so they are becoming what they hated. I feel ashamed for anyone behaving in such a way in any comunity. As a non content creator I look for the more chill and mature parts of the comunity if I interact with them at all but I understand why that is not an option for you. Also if WuWa is not your personal preference that is totally fine. Anyone who says not likeing something is worng should figure out what is wrong with themself first ;) My personal take is that it's important to point to any and all flaws. "The dev listen" as much as it is being praise isn't worth jack if we don't tell them what is broken. As a day 1 player I never had performance issues but I can say that performance was a huge issue and I was luck not to run into those issues. Voice acting in 1.0 had big issues, probably due to voice direction. There were/are issues with the resource systems, the story has gotten a lot better but it started out pretty rough with a metric ton of lore dumping and tell not show. And while it has gotten better there are still issues. 1.3 story was amazing but the resolution was deus ex machina level of "oh we found this thing in a storage room and now everything we built up until now is just resolved". I can point out the bad parts and love the game. In fact I can point out the bad parts because I love the game and want it to be the best it can be. If anyone doubts I like the game because I am also critical of it, I'm UL 79, have every limited 5* all but 4 characters at max accention, 100% cleared all the maps etc. I don't need to glaze and by not doing so it is a lot more authentic when I get passionate about the amazing visual update to water in 1.3, npcs getting voiced lines in 1.1 or how Chixia dodge counter is just the most fun in Illusive realm. I hope the immature toxic people don't diminish your passion for games and enjoy whatever you like playing the most.
I will continue to play the game because the combat is very fun, but I agree about the fanservice in story. Camellya story was a letdown. Hope it gets better.
I am a very casual player I Play the events wish on the banners and not much. I play genshin and wuwa. Both have their nice and bad like any game does. I haven't spend any money on either and am actually enjoying the competition. Wuwa 2.0 bringing in flight could mean Genshin to explore more options (Eg Flight in Natlan). As for personal experience goes. Communities only affect you if you are interested in the drama as a Player I am fine. Wuwa is fast, counters better QoL, Better Stamina use and Most amazing for me is the actions. As for Genshin I like the vibrant colour, story, characters and the diversity(I mean it has content because 5.3 now). Many like anime style over darker realistic vibe. I never had problem. I am wishing Carlotta on Wuwa and Mauvika on Genshin. The comparisons are when both comes as equal. GI is old 5.3 coming now and times now are different. Wuwa is great no doubt and GI has its problems but common we say we are unbiased players and still make comparisons It is like who is better Ronaldo or Messi or What came first Chicken or Eggs. Neither are they both grow from one another and in time. So pick a game and enjoy what not to do is mention another game's name. Genshin is genshin and the problems are the concerns of Genshin's player not Wuwa's. and Vice versa. We can only improve our game speak for your game without mentioning the faults of other so we as player can get 2 great games we don't have to be like there should be only one game.
Been playing genshin since 1.0 and still playing now together with wuwa. I can say that if I can only choose 1, I will choose wuwa over genshin. Still love both, genshin for lore, wuwa for gameplay etc.
reminder that if someone had a good experience with their potato device and can clearly see this game's got better graphics than Genshin, there's not much else they can go off of.
I don't know why but i cannot hate 50/50 and chance losing a banner because it makes the game more thrilled i just cannot accept a generous treatment it's just boring
maybe i'm only paroting, but my bigest issue right now is.. i feel like hoyo is trying their best to make the player *not playing* their games but instead force us to watch insufferable nonsese most of the time. can you imagine reading through story taht more than half of the dialogue is just blaber? unskipable, unvoiced, minimum coreography, very similar looking involved NPC? some part of the story is undeniably good, but there are too much nonsense happened and talked that it took away your interest I find myself rolled my eyes or even just slide through my phone screen while clicking tediously, and you know what, while i might missed some inetersting tidbits in the skimed text, i still understood the general of the story. that just how time wasting those dialgues are. not to mention how slow the text are rolled and some of them are't even clickable until 80% of the message rolled before you can *skip to the next dialogue. - The combat is different type, so it useless to compare them. But i do appreciate how smooth the switching character mechanic in wuwa. I mean, even if you just wanted to change you party comp, genshin has that loading bar up there for god know what - The graphic is just the matter of art style, one is more anime/cartoon while the other realistic. also engine, one is unity the other is unreal. So it already fool enough to compare. - gacha... i think even the genshin player themself including me already hating it, so enough being said. Specially the weapon banner. - I dont intend to nitpick about how different exploration in both games, but i really hate the fact that Genshin locked those convenient way of travel behind gacha characters without easy to access alternative. I still remember how some people were borrowing venti in coop just to make air current to get some culus back in 1.0 experience, or zhongli's dong. Now new character can basicaly fly. One of them even a direct powercreep towards wanderer utility wise. But you can summarize my problem with genshin mainly in 2. 1. how they handle the story presentation (if you dont want to provide skip, make it enjoybale instead sufferable) 2. Exploration QOL locked behind limited character TBH, both playerbase has problem, if we are talking about them lmao.
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NOTES ON THE VIDEO:
Edit: I feel like the video seemed biased towards Genshin because I only talked about WuWa Should’ve also mentioned that Genshin’s community is also just as bad I just personally haven’t had problems with them here on UA-cam; but that’s not too discredit of them of their toxicity, because they most likely started it 😂.
I should have elaborated on leaving WuWa, i’m just not gonna play it on the channel anymore because I’d rather stay away from toxicity and not cause more drama. I’m a content creator so I have to be somewhat involved with the community at least on UA-cam, so it’s kinda hard to make content on it when it’s just gonna be chaos in the comments about a single opinion and then the rest of the video is just completely ignored. However, off-line I will probably still play the game because I wanna go through encore storyline and maybe check out 2.0, but because bc of the fanservice I may not stay, or just completely skip storylines but I’ve been hearing Kuro is gonna chill on it so ima wait and see what they do!
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Stay strong man. Ignore those not so friendly comments. It's sad that you're glazing ww and still got bashed by ww fans. 😂
Maybe next time you can glaze genshin to bait those ppl, ez 100k views. 😂😂😂
i understand yay dude, the fan severice thing makes them feel like we got a dam hearm of people with the personality of a rock...maybe not a rock but they are one note and their story involves the mc to much
y'know whats crazy? lately, genshin's community has been more chill than wuwa's, i don't even know how, it's been UNBERABLE, it kills my will to play the game, and i liked it, somewhat, i got to union level 61 and certain aspects of the game are really good
after properly trying both, wuwa is not even that much better than genshin, matter of fact i think genshin's better (but i mean its obvious that game has 4 years of content), i think the problems with wuwa's community right now is the toxic positivity that resembles what genshin had at the beginning, and the incapability of accepting criticism towards the game.
with this i mean, if you say "oh genshin sucks" to a genshin fan, its very likely that they'll agree and go like "fr this game is so ass", I WOULD SAY IT, i've done it lol, if you say that "wuwa sucks" to a wuwa fan? not only they're going to go full on of why wuwa is a masterpiece, but also they're gonna mention genshin, EVEN when you weren't talking about genshin, and it gets tiring even if you're not a genshin fan, its younger brother behavior, that needs to stop, its just stupid,
but again this is subjective, wuwa has some aspects that are indeed better than genshin, like you said the gacha aspect of the game is superior, some players would value that more, me for example i don't care, i play the game for the game, not for rewards, thats why i'm about to quit star rail, its more "generous" than genshin but its so repetitive and the story is so boring.
also, good luck with your channel! all the best, the quality of the stuff you upload is very good 🙏🙏
@@NFYT to begin with, you're comparing a very old and mature(community-wise), to a very VERY new community. and genshin community also shit dumped on wuthering waves before it got even released, which would be what i think is one of the reasons the new community WILL be feasty and protective of their new favorite game(same as genshin community being protective of their game).
The problem i see is that the genshin community has been SO DAMN TRAINED by hoyoverse to be in a toxic relationship and that they SHOULD be okay with that. Compensations, Anniversaries, Rewards, Balances have ALWAYS been fought for by the community from the start but hoyoverse dont give a FUCK, until a genuine outrage is out(Zhongli situation for one). Now the genshin community is VERY TOLERANT even if hoyoverse give dried bread crumbs and they'll be very happy("better than nothing" mentality). Its a very toxic relationship and genshin community is projecting that A LOT on to other gacha games that "do better" than hoyoverse ever did for YEARS(not just wuwa).
I've played genshin since the damn beta(before fontaine release) and have sentimental attachment to the game, but playing and being with the community just feels toxic, so i forced myself to stop. Now fast forward to Wuwa, the game feels like a damn reward after all the gacha games I've played(not just genshin). It is a very, very refreshing experience to feel heard playing that game. I don't play it just as much since I distance myself from gacha games now, but Wuwa deserves the praise it get. And here's the thing, genshin has no excuse to be the way it is. There other games are getting a heavens difference of treatment, why should genshin be treated any different.
That said, pointing to there or that community shouldn't be the way people see and compare things. The game itself and developer to player should be the reference on what the actual point. Bow
@ doesn’t even have to do with what i said brother, you see what i mean? Even if i’m not talking about that people always come with “wuwa so good genshin bad”, you talk about how genshin community started dumping on wuwa, yet it were a lot of wuwa players calling it yet again the genshin killer, aswell as some PGR fans that hold a grudge with genshin because PGR didn’t got as popular (believe it or not).
And not only that, but the complains you are telling are very dated, which is another thing, you say the game gives crumbs, okay now they’re giving a lot more rewards and they have been steadily giving a lot of QoL and improvements into the game, what will it be now? That it took them too long, and that wuwa did it since the beginning, it will never be enough, that being said, IM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, im talking about the community, and wuwa doesn’t feel as good as y’all said because, for instance, the game came out with way more problems and stuff that should’ve come since the beginning and that genshin itself already had, stuff like being able to swap your teams and gears in the endgame, or maybe stuff like the game coming out in a playable state, because wuwa came out very undercooked, and about whether they listen or not? Its relative too, people have been saying to reduce the cooldown for the bosses and they haven’t done that, its like if they purposefully leave stuff undone to release it later and get praised for it, and its actually wild because a lot of aspects of the game leave a lot to be desired, and then people wouldn’t talk about it, which is the toxic positivity i was talking about, which is a problem that not even genshin community has nowadays, why do you think they be complaining even about the characters color skins? But thats about it, i don’t want to discuss ts over and over, see how it got into me even when i wasn’t talking about it and my point was the community?
And also, i have noticed that you legit just came to this channel TO ATTACK GENSHIN?? Which is crazy? Like c’mon brother, people can see what you are responding in youtube… you’ve become part of the problem too, y’all take it too seriously y’all praise WAYY too much a multi millonaire company, y’all start yapping about other stuff when its not even the point being discussed, shit like that, is what lead this man to quit wuwa…
And now that i reread it is so funny because i be saying “yeah i think wuwa’s community is way too positive and can’t take hate” and see how you come out? “YEAH BUT GENSHIN REWARDS HUH? WHAT ABOUT THE REWARDS? FINALLY FEELS GOOD TO HAVE A COMPANY THAT LISTENS (even tho genshin already releases QoL and even gave a 5 star but lets ignore that), ohh but what about genshin community? Y’all accept shit”, again, little, brother, behavior, the things i was talking about just now, i’ll leave it there
Reminder that most of wuwa community are ex genshin n hsr player....so it not weird how wuwa being labelled as toxic....like the word "genshin could never" was originally created from HSR fandom itself due to genshin community trashtalk to HSR games before released
Fandom ? I thought hoyo cc
Ex genshit player here btw NYC pfp👀
Ahem genshit
@@voltagespark7341 thanks for the reminder
Yep, I'm a day 1 Genshin player and I moved to Wuthering waves. I still play other games, but I invest more time on WuWa now. Kurogames offered better QoL and better gacha rates (I can't believe how generous this game is)
I am locked in his basement send help.
no damage highest challenge boss trial for free key to escape
look under the floorboards i dug a whole when i escape all he did was board it up
Sorry my friend lol
you have a nice friend. good luck
My condolences
If one of the factors that made you quit Wuthering Waves is the community, you already lost the battle from the start. I, as a player who played all of Hoyo and Kuro entries (PGR, WUWA, ZZZ, GI, HI3, HSR) don't even care about their communities except for character highlights. Most gaming communities have this level of toxicity, especially the most famous ones like in MOBA genre. Having to care what people say about what to play is what I really hate coz why gatekeep people when they can do whatever they want.
It's like me that if I cared about the hate r/Gachagaming had with games of Kuro, I wouldn't play PGR coz I got swayed by them. That's all.
Yeah, I understand that I shouldn’t care about what people say, but the problem is that I’m a content creator and those people make almost all of the comment section and I just don’t want that toxicity to be apart of my community. I would completely agree with everything you said if I didn’t make content on the game, it’s just kinda hard to make videos when every comment is just gonna be more hate, so I rather just move away from it because I don’t want any drama, I just like making videos about games, I don’t solely play genshin or wuwa. Honestly I rarely ever play genshin the last video I made is me playing it after a year, and before that I was a very infrequent player.
@@diamondfire21 TBH, it's not that you lost from the start because you quit due to the "Community", Your error, In my Opinion, was thinking people showing a lvl of toxicity high enough to make you wanna quit are actually part of any community, or even fans of the game for that matter, some people just like to think they represent a group and don't bother to add "I think" or "IMO" to what they say and speak like they're throwing facts. General haters go back and forth between communities saying they are part of one and then the other and if you fall for that then NOW it would be your lost.
You make a video and you get a couple of people whose only argument is diminishing remarks about you for not liking what they like? You just wait a bit more for comments of actual real people 😂 (of course, as a CC you do try to answer them if possible, but never actually thinking they are serious about what they say.)
This apply to both GI and WuWa, it's just that since GI has more years building their player base, you get a lot more sub communities forming around the game, meaning that you have more chances to touch a landmine and trigger people's fragile egos than you would in WuWa but I firmly believe that GI core community is as good and wholesome as any other core community of a gacha game, just people playing the game.
@@Gacha-Ritual-Master Yeah I realize that now 😅I wish I would of made my opinions in that video a little more clear tho, it probably would of lessened the backlash. But ur a real one for the comment, I'm not set on leaving Wuwa just yet, my only other issue is fanservice and Kuro is hinting that they're gonna lay off on it so I'm gonna stick around and see how that goes 👍
@@diamondfire21Hey just see it as more engagement for your videos. Any comment is a good comment if you're trying to grow. It's not like you need their approval, you just need their clicks. Its a lot eaiser to ignore them if you see them as an unwilling little helper.
@@diamondfire21 bro you sound like a little baby, waaaaaaaah, mommy they said mean things and i cant handle it.
Interesting that you only complain about Wuwa's community, while Genshin players have been hating on Kuro and its players even before the game released. Just saying, maybe you attract comments from the worst part of the community due to how bias you can be in your videos.
This is exactly what I’m talking about… never did I mention anything good about the Genshin community nor did I side with Genshin, What I said is that the WuWa community is exactly like ur comment and I don’t wanna be apart of it, the Genshin community is also terrible, I’ve heard some horrible things they but I rarely ever play the game so my complaint is completely valid.
We all hate each other man, I hate you and you hate me, you just don't know it and it's not even a GI vs WuWa thing, people just hate :v
@@diamondfire21part* of the wuwa community. I don't think they meant to start a fight for nothing tho , doesn't look like a toxic wuwa comment to me . They were just trying to keep you accountable , because it should have been mentioned.
@@Senko1800 Yeah ur right I probably should of mentioned it 😅
@@diamondfire21 Theres 2 things that Id disagree with. First, even by not mentioning the genshin community directly, you are still implying by omission if you are talking bad about one but not the other, in a comparison video. Second, the reason you might see haters from the wuwa community is because of majority takes that they disagree with. Cant expect hoyo shilling wuwa haters to complain in a vid thats agreeable to them can you? So I dont see how you can be surprised about the outcome of the comments received. And tbh this one wasnt even toxic. Pointing out a flaw in ur presentation is not toxic, and neither is disagreeing with u toxic.
"Don't like fanservice"
*Every gacha game ever: Has fanservice.
I feel like some games definitely minimize it more than others to where u don’t see it 90% of the time
@@diamondfire21 Does your friend play Genshin and think Wuthering has too much? Cause the 1.0 of Genshin was full of memes with Lisa moans. I'm not calling him hypocrite but unless moaning is not that hot for him, it's weird nevertheless.
I’ve only played the very beginning of Genshin and It was pretty clean, the only weird thing was probably Lisa, but that was a pretty short story, I haven’t really gotten far in the story I’m still in the part when u first meet Xiao (yeah ik it’s pretty far behind 😅) usually just explore the world and do some shenanigans
@@diamondfire21 dw, I was really far behind in Genshin and I started on the 1.0
But I never learned how to level up easily and stuff until Sumeru got released and I turbo speed until Inazuma.
Then I stopped. Then Natlan was about to start and I turbo speedran one Filler Area and Sumeru. (Fontaine got behind)
As a wuwa and genshin player, both communities are toxic. Saying you’re quiting wuwa because of the community is odd, saying that ive seen more hate from genshin players tbh
genshin has a fuck ton more players and it shows in those cases.
I agree that both have toxic people.
Toxic in this case being : player of a game who will go on spme content of the "competitor" just to shit on it.
I remember when Wuwa was about to release, many OFFICIAL trailers wer eliterraly removed from r/gachagaming because of haters downvoting it on masse so the automod was removing the post.
I rarely saw shit like this for other games. This game is a hate magnet for the Hoyoshills(not the casual players, they dont even care about this and all the power to them, they do the right thing).
But Kuroshills also exist unfortunately.
So yeah, both are toxic but its very easy to not give a shit to tghem.
It's not like in a MOBA or some pvp team game where you HAVE to interact with the playerbase to get things done.
Yeah, I need to specify in the video that I’m only quitting playing it on the channel. I don’t know about off-line either though because of the fan service, I’ll probably still go through like encore’s story line.
@@diamondfire21there's a mistake , there's no fanservice. if you are talking about the love for MC then it's not a fanservice. some of the love for MC are not love , it's the developing the "emotions" that the character lacked because that character is not a human. this is about shorekeeper. about camellya , if you have played her story quest you'll know that she and the rover were pretty close back in the day, and that she was overclocked.
everyone will say it's fanservice or too much MC harem if they don't understand the story/lore or completely skip the story.
@Sudhanva_K_U Different people have different ideas of what fanservice is either because of ethics or something else. I just think many of the game’s characters are too revealing and it’s unavoidable.
As a wuwa player these people are just anti genshin player
Yeah there is a difference and since I play both it makes both communities annoying to engage in
I agree , wuwa graphics are sharp and more realistic , genshin's are cartoonish .
Edit : i'm not slandering genshin guys , it's doing what it wants to do very well graphics wise ☠️
Genshin got the fortnite chapter 1 graphics lol
its the same graphics. genshins world is just designed better.
@@Spacecowboy1997 LOL, yeah ok, go back to killing timmy's pigeons and slowly climbing up mountains while you *** off to paimon and your little tiny baby game. "designed better" thats pretty funny tbh. you have to buy characters for half decent traversal that is standard in wuwa, have fun losing your pity on weapon banners and watching all the mid designed characters they got on the way, kiddo
@@Spacecowboy1997🤣
that's the purpose its an anime game
As a Wuwa player, I'm sorry for how some acted to ya. heres a small tip. Dont listen to the community or whatever goes on in it cuz it would just not make the game enjoyable anymore. It was the same reason why I left genshin along with other stuff. At this point just play what you enjoy playing! If you want you should try PGR since its made by the same people that made Wuwa, its pretty fun and have some challages too. Plus not to mention it's server is going to be catch up with CN server (which is a year ahead) and we going to have a new patch on the Dec 4th.
As one of the rare souls who enjoy Wuthering Waves and Genshin Impact, I'm fully aware of the people you speak of. I just refuse to let toxic people steal my enjoyment of anything. 😅
This guy must be living in an alternate universe that he has no idea how toxic genshin fans are. If you have to compare the toxicity of genshin players to wuwa, it's like comparing a god to a cockroach. 🤣
all wuwa players and ccs do is talk about genshin. Like some kind of inferiority complex. Cringe af.
@@Spacecowboy1997how about pre wuwa release ? Is it alien ? It's cause and effect which you guys should bear in mind ?
Most of the community is chill af xD. Just because i have seen Wuwa players mostly talk shit about genshin doesnt mean all Wuwa players are toxic does it?
@@Spacecowboy1997 Bruh, they're too busy hyping on the new characters, where did the "all" come from?
Majority of WuWa fans I have seen talk about the game were throwing a jab or outright hate on another game. Imagine a game being so sh*t that every time you talk about it you need to put down another game just to feel little bit better about yourself and the game.
Welp, toxic community is everywhere. I know wuwa have some toxic part on the community itself. Tbh, I am one of them before. That's just because I love genshin too much maybe.
Nowdays, when I don't really care about genshin and just focus playing wuwa, I'm pretty much chill.
And I also see a ton of shits thrown to wuwa from genshin community itself (since I can say myself kinda hardcore player on genshin and kinda active looking on hoyolab posts and stuff)
So yeah, the toxic part of wuwa kinda triggered by how much people shitting on wuwa even before launch, and then on launch, wuwa got a rough start and people keep shitting on it, it's like an attempt to "kill the competitor", now when wuwa have stable enough, they say things like "revenue is small, game is dying" and stuff
loved the video, and I hope that in the future you can enjoy wuwa again.
yeah wuwa has way too much fanservice and the story nosedived and because of the fanservice they got a community of toxic gonners and incels, it´s sad but the devs did it to themself
I really hate wuwa story even tho the romance is not clear it still felt like a dating simulator, even when I myself use female rover
you can't really blame Kuro for the fan service because thats what CN CBT player wants, the story of CBT is so much different than now - like people in Jinzhou doesn't even trust the MC a little bit, and at the start of the game, Chixia literally pointed a gun on you, so yeah lets blame it on CN CBT players 😂😂😂
to be honest i would say being obsessed over any game is just unhealthy and is fkin wierd like just enjoy the game it aint that big a deal
@@toiilyhonestly
Best way to enjoy yhe game is not interacting with its community, unless you want some gameplay tips from hardcore players.
From all gachas I've played, Hoyo dudes and WuWa are the worst by far.
duly noted 😅
no hate to you, I get the fan service part but WHY do people leave a game because of the TOXIC COMMMUNITY? a game like wuwa doesn't require you to play online soooooo in my opinion if you like a game then stay away from online communities, no? I mean I feel like it's just that simple. I personally have never joined a community other then WUWA official Discord for news and updates. or am I missing something? I mean it's the internet. there will be shit heads crawling everywhere.
Yeah, I’m gonna leave a disclaimer saying that I’m not gonna play on the channel anymore because of the community. off-line is a different story but I might not play it because of the fan service. I heard the news 2.0 a lot better so I’ll have to see.
@@diamondfire21 yeah, I'm very interested in seeing how they will pull off this vibrant city but still maintain a post-apocalyptic vibe kuro has been cooking a lot lately, so I know they got it in the bag. but yeah, give the game a try in 2.0. I mean it looks like the fan service is minimal this time with the characters.
11:50 I agree. It's getting pretty dark here now on Wuthering Waves because of the superiority complex of some people
yeah and the freaky fan service
Fanservice in a gacha game is par for the course, its normal considering the majority market are male, heck even the fanservice games for women sell really well i.e love and deepspace. If you truly are unable to stand fanservice i think its perfectly fine to quit the game over complaining on and on about fanservice being in the game. Trust me, i've played gachas with way more fanservice than wuwa, wuwa is mild by gacha standards.
Considering how WuWa is just a few months old, I honestly didn't expect the size of their community to be big enough to faze Genshin's community.
But it seems like WuWa is doing so well that it's becoming a threat it seems. The status quo has been broken, so conflicts like these are to be expected.
Wuwa community is smaller than even Zzz unfortunately
@@esquir-x3e Source? Trust me bro.
@@kishineagle2593 You don't need source to draw this conclusion Zzz is definitely more mainstream than Wuwa
@@esquir-x3e where? you mean only in twitch right? Not to mention in both utube and reddit, wuwa have more subscriber than zzz. I don't know what the other social media tho.
ZZZ is still more mainstream, even as a WuWa stan. It is straight up gooner bait that uses every single trend, meme, and reference to appeal to zoomers. Burnice is a prime example, who burnt down and infested eveey single gaming community upon her release due to the sheer TikTok energy she carries @htet2002linn
Just in case, this is just my opinion and reasoning. So don't take it to heart.
And forgive me right away. My native language is not English, so I can write the text in English a little.... badly
First of all. Any community can be toxic in one way or another. The same Genshin community, for example. When I switched to WuWa and just talked on forums or social networks about my impressions and playing WoWU, I kept encountering Toxic opinions about the game. In the sense that the game is "shit", or that Genshin is better than WuWa, or that few people play the game and Gacha will die. And this was for no reason at all. I still see such opinions and trolls often write about this, but I just try not to take this opinion into account. I do not speak negatively about the game or criticize it in any other way. If I am asked, I just say that "I do not like Genshin. This is my opinion."
Secondly. Regarding fanservice, I still think it's subjective. But yes, there are some problems. In fact, I like fanservice in WuWa, but I understand people who may not like it. That's why Kuro Games usually doesn't release it very often. On the other hand, let's look at Genshin and... it's strange to talk about fanservice when in the new region there are a lot of fanservice characters, which I would even call... excessive, that they lack logic.
Once again, I apologize for my bad English. And I will note once again that these are just my thoughts and my statements. I do not want to offend anyone.
There has been very few drama in genshin since wuwa came out. It seems like all the toxic players left genshin for wuwa.
Uhhhhh..... Natlan is being shat on as a super mediocre region
Looking forward to see you come back next time though, wuwa is gonna be better i believe
Wuwa is way better than Genshin
Yes
in your dreams 😂
@Spacecowboy1997 who say this is ur reality?
@@Spacecowboy1997 stupid ass 😂😂
@@Spacecowboy1997 You are looking at their new designs genshin A thousand times more beautiful than and playing mechanism awesome
Since everyone has their say in the comments:
I started playing wuwa a few days ago because of the game awards, and I just hope they calm down with the fan service thing, because it's the only thing that bothers me about the game. The rest is beautiful!
It would also be nice if the community would stop comparing it to Genshin and appreciate it for what it is... But you can't have everything haha.
Comparison is good but most of what's on the internet is just baseless hate and ragebait from both sides. As if someone enjoying another game ruins their own experience 🤣
What fan service…?
@@Zevassalc Camellya is the ultimate example. But it also happens with Jinhsi, the Shorekeeper... All with scenes and attitudes very attached to the main character, at least for me. I just don't like that... But I understand that there are people who like it and I think it's fine. Just my opinion, yeah.
@@bloqmayus camellya is just crazy, no fan service there
@@bloqmayus camellya got a pass to me because she is completely crazy. Even since I noticed the direction they're going I started to skip all companion quests. I hope the new region they at least reduce this fangirling over Rover, otherwise I will also skip the story.
The community part is completely understandable. It happens in every game but it feels like HSR, Genshin and Wuwa suffers from this the most. They take any criticsm as "bad" when it can be either constructive or subjective and is hella annoying.
I also wanna add something that I've seen PERSONALLY. The fanservice on this game wasn't as bad as others, I've noticed that they might make more fanserviceable models and clothes but the personality of each character felt different, unqiue and not so "fanservice". An example, Camellya. Sure, she was a yandere and sure she is a bit uncomfortable to see in screen, but her backstory and her story made me see her differently
Your previous video and this one proved how toxic wuwa community currently is. I feel like they both attracted much more wuwa shills then genshin shills.
But Genuinely from my experience, wuwa community much more toxic in youtube while genshin community is more toxic in twitter.
And somehow both communities are surprisingly okay in reddit. (They are all just gooners here)
Literally first person I hear say that Wuwa community is toxic. Also Wuwa has fanservice? God I wish that was true.
Yeah it is.
Idk if you’re agreeing or if you’re just one of those players 🙃
About the bear: (and other red creatures) firstly those are supposed to be busted, but have a variety of levels, so some are very easy, they also respawn at a longer time spam, probably a week and aways in same places, secondly they dont aways give legendaries, but they have a very high chance to give the highest rarity avaliable, you just cant get a legendary echo before data bank level 15, this is explicited in data bank menu, which also affects the chance to drop echo and the chances for better rarities, and lastly those monsters have increased resistance to damage by default, and have weakness to dodge counters and intro skills, those will do fixed damage. Also during a dodge counter you become invincible, so when you dodged like 3 or 4 times in a row without attacking you were losing good damage.
11:40 welp it is okay my friend... we all know hoyo players are victims from hoyo player perspective
Encore really want a big bro/sis so bad she reached out to your friend TWICE. XD
Cool content though. Hard to find CC that's not farming through players hates toward another game nowadays. Even big CC like ahem, "TT" still farm through drama. You on the opposite do content only to give your honest unprovoked thought, and for that I really like this channel.
I subbed you last time, and now I also click the bell. XD Looking forward for your future content!
Thanks man! I really appreciate it ✌️
it's cool when you can share a game with a friend, nice video ( ˊᗜˋ )
and omg fanservice is a no for me either, and i'm a bit tired with the relationships with Rover, so i'll decide if i truly want to keep playing with 2.0, i believe the feedback might take action from there onwards, if you decide to try that update it would be nice a video from you, also de community issue is always a thing with these games, sadly
Wuwa fans are so goddam defensive like they don’t even realize how annoying they are
It's you hoyoshills that cannot handle truth
@@Sikorskies everyone can tell wuwa shills are dripping with insecurity and lash out bc of that
wuwa fans is ex "genshin", so??
@LutheRin1 well yeah, they were the part of the genshin community that always shit on everything hoyo did. Now, they turned into hypocrites and have a meltdown when people say shit about wuwa or kuro.
They went from calling people hoyoshills, to praising god kuro
@@kittenlelouch well they are a mixture of Gacha games community so the Hate on Hoyoshills is high which is I like lol😂
3:14 I just realized that Youhou's voice is almost similar to Vanellope from Wreck It Ralph.
for us PGR players it's literally normal for us to get 5 star character so basically we already knew the game would give us night tier characters and btw yup the game literally give you higher tier character by just playing it lol
I rarely play Genshin anymore but I love both games. Genshin for its lore and Wuwa for its very dynamic combat system. I'm glad to see you guys still tried playing Wuwa. Oh well, everyone has their own preferences, what matters most is that we enjoy playing these games.
I had my genshin friend to play wuthering waves with me but in the end she didn't quite continue since she's solely focused on playing with genshin more lol, though she did say it was kind of good despite her being lvl 2
I feel genuine WuWa fans are not toxic. All the Genshin haters from WuWa I’ve met are mostly all ex Genshin fans who were extremely disappointed by the game and its lack of devs love. I honestly play both, Genshin is for the story because I’ve been there from the start at 1.0 with all the glitches and bugs it also had on release, WuWa is for everything.
As for fan service, I feel people are using that term extremely wrong nowadays or did it change and I’m too old to realize? It was usually referred for sexualize content which WuWa only has giggle physics. Although the definition still says it’s for sexualization towards a target audience, Camellya being a tsundere and being in love with Rover isn’t fan service imo. Some scenes with her could be considered a bit fan service cause she’s does try to pull you close to her a few times, but the game itself isn’t, it’s just one character and it’s not anything related to showing her body, like most gachas or animes, just romancing gestures. The game has many chars and things, just one justified psycho girl in love wouldn’t make it fan service.
This, I'm actually surprised people were overreacting with shorekeeper too bc of the way shorekeeper is so fond of rover in a reasonable way, it's like any sort of admiration is fan service nowadays...sure wuwa had some moments with actual fan service but the game offers so much more than that and ofc these ppl don't care abt that
might not be fan service but its absolutely annoying having every female character simping for rover they need to tone that down
Just found this vid, all I can say is play the game, be it genshin or wuwa or others, if the community is toxic don’t join it but don’t let that stop u from enjoying the game. Only make sure u don’t burn yourself out from playing it. I hope u can come back to the game to play it for yourself
to be fair, wuwa 1.0 vs 1.4 is NOT the same game holyshit, 1.0 was bad for low/mid tier pc or in any type of phone, 1.4 is the real wuwa, 2.0 will be the real release of wuwa, so i dont blame anyone felt 1.0~1.1 was bad , but i definitely hope they give wuwa a second chance
also the community part
wuwa is kinda toxic but genshin community is TOXIC, basically they started the civil war first and act innocent after wuwa community fight back, so some may felt like wuwa is the toxic one, but actually it's not, they just fight back from what they get from.
conclusion : both is toxic, but if you asked who started first? definitely genshin.
I dont play hoyo games, because I personally think that hoyo is a horrible company and I don’t wanna support them. Racism, loli characters, the recent voice actor drama, fan service, oversexualisation and misrepresentation of cultures and cultural outfits ect.
Unfortunately you will miss the excitement rinascita 2.0 . Could you imagine get 200x pull in 2.0. every gamble addicted shoul try wuwa 🎉
Hey, have you heard of PGR? I know it's not for everyone since it's not an open world but if you want more fast paced combat like WuWa but not have to deal with the toxic community then I recommend checking PGR out made by also Kuro.
4:16 nah, nah switching to this game from genshin is like finding someone better after that toxic ex, and staying FAR away from that toxic ex because you know you gonna go off on them and say some horrible $hit because they havent changed at all since you broke up lmfao
come on bro, paying a already existing acc is like placing a newcome player into SUMERU DERSET out of nowhere without even a hint on what the fuck is this game. It would be much nicer if you let him play the first couple of minutes to get the grip
The account came stock with only the characters you get from the beginning of the story, but you’re right it probably would’ve been a good idea to let him do the first few minutes on his own, then he would’ve been able to rate the combat better or maybe even the story.
Edit; I only bought an account so we can do co-op
I didnt even know there was beef, I kept running out of resin and had a lot of free time (SHUT UP IM NOT GETTING A JOB) so I decided to get wuwa and my brain got brained out with the amount of lore and quality this game has.
As a genshin and wuwa player I have to admit that in a short period wuwa has release some incredible things! I stay with Genshin with Keching as my main DO YOU BELIEVE IT???😅 hahaha I have to love the character design and in Genshin even tho there a lot of characters I don’t quite like them and I recognize that in Wuwa I love almost every character design! I’m just saying this because not every player is looking for the same experience, I look for the design and the exploration experience, not for the communitys or multiplayer
Average Gacha Experience.
Gambling addicted Capital G Gamers gotta gaslight themselves into thinking their "investment" in a gacha game was worthwhile, by either glazing on it, or hitting on others.
Though again, loud minority issue. It's just people who check out the channel once, write an angry comment, and are never part of the community anyway.
All I want rover past cutscene from CBT. I want rover lore but all we get is saving girls and they fall in love with us. But can we at least talk to the cool looking dudes at least.
I mean, the fanservice is mainly just in the **companion stories** and not the main one soooo it's not really affecting anything in the main story
“Which 8 year old”
“Thats one I’m going for right now”
-DiamondFire21
12:01, Have you heard of Rinascita?
Basically the new characters are VERY LESS revealing and the artstyle is more colorful than dark for 2.0
Oh yeah, *NEXT UPDATE IS ALREADY 2.0!!!*
Community? It's not about wuwa/Genshin/Zzz .... It's most of the gacha community😢.....I play Genshin becoz sometimes i like that vibes..and i play wuwa when i like that kinda of vibes....and sometimes i play more games.... Communities are just made up like this...
Yeah I completely understand that but I’m a content creator so I have to be somewhat involved with the community at least on UA-cam, so it’s kinda hard to make content on it when it’s just gonna be chaos in the comments, so I’m just gonna not play WuWa on the channel anymore (don’t know about offline either bc of the fanservice, but I’ve been hearing Kurt says there gonna chill on it so ima wait and see what they do)
@diamondfire21 just do your work and content creation.... after some times they will find someone new to target 🙂👍
The 2nd reason i agree with you as you can't change what you don't like but the first reason makes no sense man, as someone who has been a part of both communities, I'd say genshin community is 100 times more toxic towards wuwa and in general which makes sense cuz the genshin community is much bigger than wuwa community but still.. saying that wuwa community is toxic but not even mentioning genshin community sounds really wrong. I wouldn't have said anything about it if this wasn't a comparison video,but it is and it makes no sense for this reason to be in this video.
Yeah, I realize that I should’ve mentioned Genshin as well. The video was more wuthering waves sided because we were playing the game but I should’ve mentioned that Genshin’s community is also as toxic.
Question how do I get a lot of exp to level up my echos?
My friend only plays genshin, she reopens wuthering waves, gets Camellia in like five pulls, and as soon as she starts using her she finally understands why I keep saying the game is amor optimized version of genshin.
@@diogodifrente4283 who?
@@Foxnarrow their friend
@@Zora72954 😔i know
@@Foxnarrow 😔
@@Zora72954 😔😔
if you understand the game of attack then you might also know only defenses can't protect the castle. Attacks are needed to defeand against gaints that would make them slower. ( In here, attack means toxic side of community) but also too much attack would destroy the castle itself. (I am in wrong video guys 😅 sorry).
I like that we were treated like somekind of fugitive in early chapters of Genshin while the girls are already fangirling the moment we woke up in WuWa.
Saying everyone in wuwa's community is toxic bc they don't like Genshin is hilarious bc of how many temper tantrums I see on the daily from Genshin players
As a wuwa and genshin player this reaction is just great
I'd play genshin back in a heartbeat if they added skip button. I like that game.
Oh it's a shame you won't continue playing WuWa. I personally started playing it like a month ago and I think is the only Gacha worth playing. From gameplay to exploring, even latest companion quests are worth reading. It's weird that you mention fan service since I am yet to seen it in the game at all? But community does get a bit heated when comparing it with Genshin since most players are Ex-Genshin players that realized it's not for them. Hope you give WuWa another shot after 2.0 releases!
the legendary you got is one of the best. really good character. calcharo is very good.
If you don't like Fan service then stop playing gachas my boy... because fan service will always be there in a subtle or direct way, I personally don't care as long as I like the game. Here's a strong advice for you: Play whatever you want, you are a content creator, not a slave at the disposal of whiny childrens. At the end of the day you will form a community that follows you for what you do and not what they tell you to do, you can take their suggestion to react ot try something, but that's it, Stop playing a game that you like because of the community it has, it doesn't make sense, don't become a slave and make content to please others. You can't and you shouldn't, be yourself and not what others expect you to be.
Yeah I’ve considered it, but it’s fine if it’s minimal and not pushed that much I can just ignore it, the gacha is the least part I enjoy, I mainly like the anime rpg and story that the games give.
Edit: If there was something different that wasn’t gacha related I’d definitely play it
@@diamondfire21If not can play single player games you like, make series challenges etc, the point is that you have fun and form a community based in what you like to do :)
I played genshin for 3 years and never won a 50/50- I PLAY WUWA FOR WHAT? IDK HOW LONG ITS BEEN, BUT I WON MY FIRST 50/50 😭🙏🏽 and I got Carlotta, I’m so damn happy
I played both games, I can say that both community have toxicity. I feel like Genshin impact is really slow now after I played WuWa, the features on WuWa compared to Genshin are very far behind.
Love the way you addressed in community, they are not helping improving the game but are defending negative of the games 😅. Enjoyed your video. Also I respect the decision you nade at the end 😊👍
Reminds me when my friend gifted me Borderlands 2, and end up playing the game together. My friend quickly ferries me from one place to another instead of pacing myself by admiring the world, check out buildings for stuff and read a document. Ultimately Borderlands 2 didn't click to me and dropped it. Will get back to it though.
This is what you've been doing to your friend, and even bought him an account depriving him of the initial hook of WuWa. You ferry him around to random points of interests instead of letting him pace himself, and it won't take long he'll drop the game, or he's already dropped the game.
Video has good intentions, but terrible execution. Deserves a dislike.
Thankfully the interactions ive had with people who play wuwa have been pretty pleasant. Mostly just talking about how cool fanart is in the official discord. But id say the toxcitiy of the gacha community as a whole ramped up majorly in 2024. No one can simply enjoy a game online these days. Every other game has to be trash in comparison
1:53 “I got a rare pokimon that’s it?” Wow what do bro got in genshin after killing boss? The reward that’s it. Here we got echoes and rewards.
My bad..
Never forget that Youhu and Danjin are the same age (between 14-19)...
i have a Ryzen 7 5700X with a 12gb RX6700XT 32GB of 3200mhz ram, and the game installed on a NVME 1tb drive, at 1.0, this game was a pain on the ass to run, the stutters were terrible and the game felt like running fuckyng cyberpunk at lauch
Bro is your pc unoptimized garbage? Im playing the game with ryzen 5 4600g with 8gb rx 580, 16 gb ram. With the storage of a fcking 1tb hdd. Besides the occasional stutter of my 5 year old gpu it still plays smooth as butter in my pc 😂 youre either lying or have a shit optimized pc
Welp, I have 5600 with 3060 Ti with 16gb ram on 2666, using 1440p display, at launch hard to maintain 60fps, now, it can run 60 while running hsr on the background 😂
Something is wrong with ur graphics driver same thing happened with my 6600 but after driver update its better 60fps locked with ur setup u can unlock 120fps
yeah 1.0 was terrible but i dont think it l terrible like Cyberpunk77 at launch lol (i have PREORDER CP77 back then in 2020 so i know how it feel) from what i check is just update my geforce and fixed no lag issue in 1.0 Wuwa and now i can play 120 max setting since 1.3 with my 3080+5700x
@@ikennshidu5070 the funny thing is that changing the game from the Sata SSD to the NVME one made the game run way better for some reason. Like... for most games like hogwarts legacy for instance, it is great, but the game run just fine on the normal sata SSD, on wuwa it made a lot o difference.
tbf both genshin & wuwa has different combat experience in new/mid game compare to endgame. The comparison could only be done once players really understand how to do rotation at this game and its purpose.
I am sorry to hear that you had a negative experience with the WuWa fanbase interactions on your last video. Unfortunately, I feel there is this great divide between the two fanbases of WuWa and Genshin/Hoyo that is going to be hard to bridge, though it may just be gaming/gacha culture in general these days. I respect your bravery and honesty with sharing your opinion, and I hope you find the game and community that best suits you, whether that be Genshin, WuWa, Everness, or otherwise. Have a wonderful day, and God Bless
Honestly the fan service might get better in 2.0. Kuro has been really receptive to player's feedback and 1.x stories are mostly planned out before they have a chance to fix them imho. I have hope that the story will get better in 2.x. Might be worthwhile to stick around for 1 more patch just to see how it goes :D
Also you can skip story that you don't like. Some characters' story are really good (Encore for example are my personal fav) while others are more fan service (which you can skip to just get the rewards).
I’ve heard that encore’s story is really good, I’ll probably play through it, and the skipping is a good idea too. I’ll definitely will be on the watch for what they do in 2.0
You know, when I hear that WuWa has too much fan service, I always confuse it to them saying it has too many lewds and get perplexed like "Wait, with things like Nikke, Horizon Walker and even ZZZ around these guys cannot be serious right?" But I guess they mean that it has too many females "lusting" for MC or something? Which is completely wrong too though, only ones who have shown real interest towards MC are Shorekeeper (complete understandable) and she literally has recently started to develop emotions as a whole so that's that, and the other would be Camellya but I don't think what she wants is what everyone thinks 😂
After those two maybe Yangyang but that's just standard beginner waifu behavior IMO so I don't really get where does the "Gathering Wives" monicker came from, if helping female characters with their problems equals they love you then I have lost some faith in humanity 😂
@@Gacha-Ritual-Master nicely done reasonable opinion, may i take this to bash the hater?
could u tell me which stories I can skip? cuz ngl I am kinda bored with them I like jiyan and his story and encore I have not played yet
@@nguyenphuvinh-du3dr quite late to reply since YT never notified me of this but sure, go ahead (if you haven't done that already xD)
2:04 huh.. must've been the wind
I'm not sure about the thing that wuwa is fan service game. People usually think like that if they don't follow main story quest or just skip everything/important dialog. Or for ur case, that u too familiar with how genshin story work ( they didn't focus on main character much and more about the world building) Meanwhile wuwa focus on MC. To be fair, maybe I'm biased to wuwa and it have some fan service, but I don't think it that much to calling wuwa fan service game.
I got jumpscared by spear back bear when I first saw it
4:14 wise words, can't relate to the real life example but wise words nonetheless
Those are some pretty weak reasons to quit the game ngl:
1) You're really going to let others influence the reason you play the game? Like at least quit because you didn't enjoy or your PC couldn't handle it and not because you couldn't handle a few people saying mean things you couldn't handle.
2) I've always found it weird when people say they don't like fanservice and expect anime and anime games in extension to not have them. Their business model is BUILT upon and make money off of fan service. Some are just more tame or raunchy than others. Project Mugen is going to be the same. What you're looking for is probably not in anime/gacha games but in Western games
The reason I’m quitting is a little different than that (probably should of specified in the video). I’m a content creator and it’s kinda hard to build a community of my own when all the comments are just gonna be hate, (I also don’t want any drama) so it’s better if I don’t make videos on the channel anymore; however offline I’ll probably still play the game and go through some stories like encore’s. The fanservice thing is just because of my morals and I just don’t like it. I know they’re are anime games and just games in general that don’t have it or have a negligible amount of it to where it’s not shoved in ur face every time u open a menu or play a story. It also doesn’t have to be anime games,
I just Gravitate towards anime games because I myself watch anime.
@@diamondfire21 morals? what morals make you not like fanservice? none of it is real 😂
@@Zora72954 different people think differentlly, I’m very religious and in my perspective any fanservice is bad (no matter real or fake) it’s more religious ethics than self made morals
@@diamondfire21 but how is it bad? this is whats always confused me about religions. whats wrong with a bit of skin? and if its fiction why is it still bad?
@@Zora72954This is why I think it’s bad: I’m a Protestant Christian and I believe in the Bible, and in the Bible Jesus says that whoever lusts (via anything) or looks at something with lust in their heart, he says it’s the same as adultery, he calls lust a sin. The reason sin is evil is because it perverts and corrupts things that God created.
If you wanted to know like “why should a book tell u what to do?” or “Who is Jesus?” you’d have to do some reading on ur own, the Bible would tell you most of it, but it would be very helpful to read some theological explanation on it from outside sources.
Also sorry if I wrote a little too much, if you really wanna like understand where I’m coming from the sources I said above should help u. Again the game is really cool and I really like the graphics, adventuring, combat, and scenery, but the fanservice is just something I don’t want to see or interact with. Thanks for being interested tho! Glad u watched the video, got a new one cooking up soon I’m actually gonna stream tommorow at 6pm est (Final Fantasy VII remake) it’s gonna go so hard 🥹 never played final fantasy before
Yea both game are good and combat for both game is cool but one problem in Genshin Impact whyyy so unlucky I never got 5 star character in Genshin Impact only got Ayaka lol and wuthering wave got shorekeeper jinshi encore camellya which I needed I always get sad when pity system 😢
Lol I'm the reverse I've ran into so many toxic genshin players that I don't even want to attempt playing it they get so fucking butt hurt over nothing I'm good
Yooo a little question, what level are you and your friend to be able to play coop?
Lvl 22 I think
The people who support both games are too busy playing the games than going online social media to post about it. In other words, the online toxic trolls have no life and feels the need to comment negativity on everything.
if they are too busy playing a game to use social media and talk about the game they like then they have an extremely unhealthy obsession and need help. people that say this crap are dumb and dont understand how others actually play and enjoy games lol
@@Zora72954 And here you are replying to a random comment with trash talking. Indeed very unhealthy of you, loser. Go to bed and touch yourself for relief, won't you?
2.0 is coming hopefully that might bring you back to the game
And I totally agree with the community hating each other stuff its boring ngl
Never thought i play genshin until my friend force me to play and i got hook up to it for 2 years. Now im considering to play wuwa, can someone tell me what are the appeal of it except graphic?
Monster collecting and the combat being similar to dmc a bit
The problem with hardware in 1.0 it's real, I remember Wuwa running better with my wife PC with a GTX1650 better than my RTX3070, but now it's fixed 🎉
As you mention in you notes on the video toxicity and gatach comunities do go hand in hand, sadly. With WuWa it's a bit of a special case since it's the first real alternative in the open world action rpg + gatcha genre (tower of fantasy is more of an mmo so I see that as a related but different genre). So what you get are a lot of people with pent up frustration who could not voice it before cause their previous toxic comunity would have backlashed at them for speaking their mind. By now doing the backlashing themselves they might be able to finally vent that frustration but in doing so they are becoming what they hated. I feel ashamed for anyone behaving in such a way in any comunity. As a non content creator I look for the more chill and mature parts of the comunity if I interact with them at all but I understand why that is not an option for you.
Also if WuWa is not your personal preference that is totally fine. Anyone who says not likeing something is worng should figure out what is wrong with themself first ;)
My personal take is that it's important to point to any and all flaws. "The dev listen" as much as it is being praise isn't worth jack if we don't tell them what is broken. As a day 1 player I never had performance issues but I can say that performance was a huge issue and I was luck not to run into those issues. Voice acting in 1.0 had big issues, probably due to voice direction. There were/are issues with the resource systems, the story has gotten a lot better but it started out pretty rough with a metric ton of lore dumping and tell not show. And while it has gotten better there are still issues. 1.3 story was amazing but the resolution was deus ex machina level of "oh we found this thing in a storage room and now everything we built up until now is just resolved". I can point out the bad parts and love the game. In fact I can point out the bad parts because I love the game and want it to be the best it can be. If anyone doubts I like the game because I am also critical of it, I'm UL 79, have every limited 5* all but 4 characters at max accention, 100% cleared all the maps etc. I don't need to glaze and by not doing so it is a lot more authentic when I get passionate about the amazing visual update to water in 1.3, npcs getting voiced lines in 1.1 or how Chixia dodge counter is just the most fun in Illusive realm.
I hope the immature toxic people don't diminish your passion for games and enjoy whatever you like playing the most.
Bro is like a political neutral person trying to appease both sides but people just dunk on him bruh😢
I get lazy to log into genshin after playing wuthering waves
I will continue to play the game because the combat is very fun, but I agree about the fanservice in story. Camellya story was a letdown. Hope it gets better.
Wuthering Waves is a waste of time
@cheerful_crop_circle nice bait bro
I am a very casual player I Play the events wish on the banners and not much. I play genshin and wuwa. Both have their nice and bad like any game does. I haven't spend any money on either and am actually enjoying the competition. Wuwa 2.0 bringing in flight could mean Genshin to explore more options (Eg Flight in Natlan). As for personal experience goes. Communities only affect you if you are interested in the drama as a Player I am fine. Wuwa is fast, counters better QoL, Better Stamina use and Most amazing for me is the actions. As for Genshin I like the vibrant colour, story, characters and the diversity(I mean it has content because 5.3 now). Many like anime style over darker realistic vibe. I never had problem. I am wishing Carlotta on Wuwa and Mauvika on Genshin. The comparisons are when both comes as equal. GI is old 5.3 coming now and times now are different. Wuwa is great no doubt and GI has its problems but common we say we are unbiased players and still make comparisons It is like who is better Ronaldo or Messi or What came first Chicken or Eggs. Neither are they both grow from one another and in time. So pick a game and enjoy what not to do is mention another game's name. Genshin is genshin and the problems are the concerns of Genshin's player not Wuwa's. and Vice versa. We can only improve our game speak for your game without mentioning the faults of other so we as player can get 2 great games we don't have to be like there should be only one game.
Been playing genshin since 1.0 and still playing now together with wuwa. I can say that if I can only choose 1, I will choose wuwa over genshin. Still love both, genshin for lore, wuwa for gameplay etc.
reminder that if someone had a good experience with their potato device and can clearly see this game's got better graphics than Genshin, there's not much else they can go off of.
Came to watch the comments.
yo bro😂 no way i found you again
2.0 will be crazy, I saw one leak of the new map and its even better graphics than it is now, its crazy
I don't know why but i cannot hate 50/50 and chance losing a banner because it makes the game more thrilled i just cannot accept a generous treatment it's just boring
3:25 CALICHIRO ERM NO THAT'S NOT HIS NAME IT SOUNDS LIKE CAL-SHA-RO
Why not just let him start the game with a new account? He could choose his standard S ranks character that way and start off not confused.
It be impossible to play coop that way for the video
I was too lazy to get to the high level required
maybe i'm only paroting, but my bigest issue right now is..
i feel like hoyo is trying their best to make the player *not playing* their games but instead force us to watch insufferable nonsese most of the time.
can you imagine reading through story taht more than half of the dialogue is just blaber? unskipable, unvoiced, minimum coreography, very similar looking involved NPC?
some part of the story is undeniably good, but there are too much nonsense happened and talked that it took away your interest
I find myself rolled my eyes or even just slide through my phone screen while clicking tediously, and you know what, while i might missed some inetersting tidbits in the skimed text, i still understood the general of the story. that just how time wasting those dialgues are.
not to mention how slow the text are rolled and some of them are't even clickable until 80% of the message rolled before you can *skip to the next dialogue.
- The combat is different type, so it useless to compare them. But i do appreciate how smooth the switching character mechanic in wuwa. I mean, even if you just wanted to change you party comp, genshin has that loading bar up there for god know what
- The graphic is just the matter of art style, one is more anime/cartoon while the other realistic. also engine, one is unity the other is unreal. So it already fool enough to compare.
- gacha... i think even the genshin player themself including me already hating it, so enough being said. Specially the weapon banner.
- I dont intend to nitpick about how different exploration in both games, but i really hate the fact that Genshin locked those convenient way of travel behind gacha characters without easy to access alternative. I still remember how some people were borrowing venti in coop just to make air current to get some culus back in 1.0 experience, or zhongli's dong. Now new character can basicaly fly. One of them even a direct powercreep towards wanderer utility wise.
But you can summarize my problem with genshin mainly in 2.
1. how they handle the story presentation (if you dont want to provide skip, make it enjoybale instead sufferable)
2. Exploration QOL locked behind limited character
TBH, both playerbase has problem, if we are talking about them lmao.
Never to come back...