Rapid scarf hoopa is actually good, you poke a lot from the backline, especially with the trick set. Also ulting when rapid scarf is triggered greatly improves your dps
Highly agree. Was playing Scarf Hoopa the other night just to see how well it would work, and it did pretty well. With Trick, the additional projectiles also gain the attack speed, which is nice. Where it gains a lot of use is when you activate Unbound. You do a lot of damage with your basic attacks in that form, and the extra attack speed is very welcome.
@@mr.p1759 honestly what are some better items hoopa can run? Exp share is nice but hoopa only needs lvl 12 and exp share in soloq can go wasted anyway, focus/buddy can be helpful I guess but hardly optimal, double stacking is doable I suppose but can be inconsistent
its funny how a character that depends almost completely on its basic attack like charizard gains no advantage from an item that increases the rate of basic attack.
Rapid fire actually helps me on venusaur on early games, both on objectives and chasing stackers. It also helps me in late game chasing enemies and securing objectives, pretty the same lol
rapid fire scarf hoopa isn't a meme imo. it provides reallt great poke and constant dps with trick and shadow ball. Along with getting those fast shadow ball stuns. try it out cris.
Dragonite Muscle+Scope+Scarf Dragon dance+Hyper Beam a lot range auto attack (+3% muscle) is insane, never lose DD (with full heal) and big secure with hyper beam (x3 Dragon dance) kill every attacker
Venusaur: It replaces muscle as one of the 2 must have items with focus. Muscle becomes one of the options for third Machamp: definitely not trolling. If you're going for crits you want auto attacks.
Chris, with the prevalence of rapid fire scarf users mostly being "ranged" users and their damage is ridiculous how do you counter it if you are a melee-mon?
Tried Trevenant with curse pain split and held items rapid fire scarf, drain crown and muscle band. Does not seem so bad when your boosted basics heal like 15% of your health.
I don't run Hoopa without Rapid-Fire Scarf now. It helps with its terrible solo farming for one. And for two, Hoopa shoots one and a half autos with Trick. In good games, I'm back to dealing 65K to 80K damage. It gets real nasty during Unbound. I try to position well so I don't have to keep moving and just A press like I'm a Cinder, hitting multiple targets at the same time. Absolutely love it.
As a Blastoise Main I think the rapid is quite good on him, while yes you don't get faster in the booster attack but that doesn't matter because reaching the booster is important, you want to slow them and that slow last like the whole animation so by speeding up the other 2 basic attacks that aren't so important it helps to reach the booster easier and slow them almost always, I have been using it with muscle and focus and is quite good! Surf/HP kit btw 🐢
I can also vouch for Hydro Spin build. Feels usable now and its my favorite build so I'm glad to use it again. Its actually good at taking objectives such as Rayqauza due to its burst damage, stun, and bulk.
Rapid fire on greninja feels so good to me because I hate stacking since it always gets you 1 death a game that could have been avoided had you not thirsted for a goal + makes level 5 a beast.
10 matches in with scarfed blastoise, lost only 2 due to afks, it's so powerful for blastoise during the early game that it helps a lot for snowballing matches
As a Zoroark player I feel Rapid Scarf is really good on it, especially since it helps cover for the nerfs to Night Slash by making the move act much faster. It takes a lot of skill to pull off being able to charge the scarf right before Night Slash but when you do the combo is insanely fast and I feel definitely worth the item
Tried some Dragonite matches with Scarf Outrage/Extreme-Speed build while using Eject. It actually felt playable even though it doesn't totally curb all the weaknesses it still has. Overall an improvement though as you get the increased attack speed whilst getting some mobility in your Battle Item.
I'd honestly recommend X Attack with that build. The damage and AS increase from both Outrage and X Attack combined lets you secure certain All ins that otherwise would take too long and you also farm objectives faster. Especially with 7 pink it's worth building a team around. Obviously some matchups you might prefer something like Full Heal but X Attack steroids are hard to pass up if you aren't chain disabled too often.
X-Attack with 7 Pink I'd definitely have to try out! What I've been liking about Eject is being able to chase or in some cases get out of less than ideal situations. I did try X-Attack too and enjoy it but I think its harder to utilize in SoloQ if you don't have the proper team/support. It's an all-in build that can often go south with the excessive amount of CC in this game. I find Dragonite already does enough and they benefit from being more flexible. Thanks for recommendations! Hoping in the future they buff Dragonite's passive to increase defenses even further, making Extreme Speed more viable.
Can you explain to me why he says rapid fire scarf on dragon dance is bad? Like wouldn’t that be great for getting your dragon dance stacks up and also just doing a ton of auto damage and getting off more boosted autos?
Scarf can b good for glaceon with the icy wind build. I tried it out a few times. Helps you get all ur ice spears faster, but I feel it takes away too much from the DMG having a sp atk item instead can do for it
It's pretty sweet! What 3rd item do you tend to use? They have so many good options its hard to choose. Before the new items I utilized Cookie + Potion but I haven't done enough testing to know if that's the best route now.
Dnite Outrage with the full heal and the rapidfirescarf was too good, try it it is so fun with the addition of the crown, he hurts really fast and he heal himself a lot
@@Agent-pd6wx I know, that's why it's surprising. Also he's not even that bad just cause someone's "bottom tier" dosen't mean they are useless. I main buzz and have had great success with him and the scarf has noticeably made him stronger
@@Agent-pd6wx and what are you trying to prove? I never said he was top tier lol. I'm not playing this game competitively I'm just playing for fun using pokemon I actually like while still trying to improve which is why i watch these videos. Scarf works really good on buzz and closing the distance on those ranged attackers is much more rewarding. I didn't think it would impact him much until I tried it after hearing him say it was good. I know why buzz isn't the best mon in unite and frankly I don't care.
I have no idea how you say Scarf is trolling on Machamp when Dynamic Chop build gives you absurd amounts of AD. Scarf singlehandedly makes glass cannon crit build actually consistent because you aren't praying for two hits to RNG oneshot squishies. Now you can all in people with hypermultiplicative steroids making it very unlikely you won't kill with crits. Also Machamp boosted auto is one of the best in the game in terms of scaling and utility. Like c'mon Cris...you've actually played this build during eras where it wasn't nearly as good as it is now.
@@CrisHeroes What other items? Because I run Razor Scope Scarf and still hit 2k crits. X Speed for defensive plays and long range initiations. No focus band needed because you have the mobility to choose where fights happen. No Attack Weight needed because this build still does crazy damage and stacking is garbage against other Scarf mons like Eldegoss. This build is safer and more damaging than any other version of glass cannon crit Machamp pre-Scarf era unironically. Also like in general Scarf is busted if you have a strong boosted. Machamp has one of the best boosted autos so...
Ur wrong about machamp... using submission and rs scarf is very good. First hit of sub is 1 auto second backflip hit is 2 autos and 1 more auto after that is 3 and than you trigger scarf and burst down the enemy after with double boosted auto attack speed
I play Aegislash with rapid fire. It's a great choice, mostly when you have the 4 basic attacks ready. 1 boosted auto counts as 2 for whatever reason, and when you have all the stacks ready, it's just amazing to see it slash. It also makes early game way better than before, mostly when using muscle band (which you always should)
Eldegoss with Rapid Fire turns into a threat. Lock the enemy in -30% Speed in mid-long range recieving also a bonus damage from the Autos. And we are talking at the beginning of the match, punishing aggressive players. Both Stun/Hindrance or Healer builds are extreme with Rapid Scarf. Why balancing Mons when you overhaul the entire tiers just adding this item lol.
Let me know your thoughts!
Good
So....
Question, are Attack Weight and Rapid Fire Scarf both equally good, or is one better than the other? Specifically for Greninja
Dura's basic attacks need to be toned down...
Which is better on mamoswine - rapid fire scarf or attack weight?
Dura A9 Mamo Ttar is top tier for me other pokemon is pretty good
Rapid scarf hoopa is actually good, you poke a lot from the backline, especially with the trick set. Also ulting when rapid scarf is triggered greatly improves your dps
Yup you're right
He didn't even said it was not good
He said it's pretty decent but there are better items for hoopa
Highly agree. Was playing Scarf Hoopa the other night just to see how well it would work, and it did pretty well. With Trick, the additional projectiles also gain the attack speed, which is nice. Where it gains a lot of use is when you activate Unbound. You do a lot of damage with your basic attacks in that form, and the extra attack speed is very welcome.
@@mr.p1759 ok but the point is that he's wrong and rapid is probably the optimal item to run
@@mr.p1759 honestly what are some better items hoopa can run? Exp share is nice but hoopa only needs lvl 12 and exp share in soloq can go wasted anyway, focus/buddy can be helpful I guess but hardly optimal, double stacking is doable I suppose but can be inconsistent
its funny how a character that depends almost completely on its basic attack like charizard gains no advantage from an item that increases the rate of basic attack.
Because Charizard as a set attack speed and cannot speed it up
It's speed is at infinity, how much more speed can it gain.
Man this season it's super hard to climb ranks 😭. It's my exams so i only play 4 games a day and the back to study 😭
Same bro 😩
Rapid fire actually helps me on venusaur on early games, both on objectives and chasing stackers.
It also helps me in late game chasing enemies and securing objectives, pretty the same lol
If you are in Jungle the cool-down and damage boost from Amp is probably better.
In lane though, Rapid-Fire all the way.
My Rapid fire scarf venu bought me to master with 70+% Win rate. With red buff the enemy just can't escape during early game gank
rapid fire scarf hoopa isn't a meme imo. it provides reallt great poke and constant dps with trick and shadow ball. Along with getting those fast shadow ball stuns. try it out cris.
Dragonite Muscle+Scope+Scarf Dragon dance+Hyper Beam a lot range auto attack (+3% muscle) is insane, never lose DD (with full heal) and big secure with hyper beam (x3 Dragon dance) kill every attacker
I'm so happy you're going to try rapid fire scarf Glaceon! Thank you! I'm really looking forward to it :D
Venusaur: It replaces muscle as one of the 2 must have items with focus. Muscle becomes one of the options for third
Machamp: definitely not trolling. If you're going for crits you want auto attacks.
Chris, with the prevalence of rapid fire scarf users mostly being "ranged" users and their damage is ridiculous how do you counter it if you are a melee-mon?
they better be fixing to add attacker Slowking for that drain crown
Tried Trevenant with curse pain split and held items rapid fire scarf, drain crown and muscle band. Does not seem so bad when your boosted basics heal like 15% of your health.
And x speed to keep up with your targets.
I don't run Hoopa without Rapid-Fire Scarf now. It helps with its terrible solo farming for one. And for two, Hoopa shoots one and a half autos with Trick. In good games, I'm back to dealing 65K to 80K damage. It gets real nasty during Unbound. I try to position well so I don't have to keep moving and just A press like I'm a Cinder, hitting multiple targets at the same time. Absolutely love it.
I wonder if you use trick before going unbound if it still launches autos from your ally
I've done this build as well It feels really underated I just wish that soloq understood how trick works.
@@migu6528 i wish i could understand the hole Mon :D
As a Blastoise Main I think the rapid is quite good on him, while yes you don't get faster in the booster attack but that doesn't matter because reaching the booster is important, you want to slow them and that slow last like the whole animation so by speeding up the other 2 basic attacks that aren't so important it helps to reach the booster easier and slow them almost always, I have been using it with muscle and focus and is quite good! Surf/HP kit btw 🐢
its good on the hydro spin build, water spout out of meta because its just better with rapid fire scarf boosted auto during spinning
I can also vouch for Hydro Spin build. Feels usable now and its my favorite build so I'm glad to use it again. Its actually good at taking objectives such as Rayqauza due to its burst damage, stun, and bulk.
scarf for nightslash zoroark is quite amazing, you get to X so fast that most people cant even respond.
i mean glaceon rapid scarf could be quite good since u can get ur icicle's faster for ur icy wind/icicle spear move
Rapid fire scarf on machamp is actually crazy
Rapid fire on greninja feels so good to me because I hate stacking since it always gets you 1 death a game that could have been avoided had you not thirsted for a goal + makes level 5 a beast.
u lack damage on surf without 1/2 stacks on attackweight. if u die while stacking ur stacking in the wrong moment so just ur fault
Dude, dragonite’s outrage benefits greatly w/Rapid-Fire Scarf provided the muscle band is in the arsenal and that Dragon Dance is part of the moveset.
I literally carryed a ranked witch Lucario and this item... It's pretty strong with Power Up Punch and Close Combat. One of the best item for him
Scizor is not trolling, you have life steal, you have special boosted with sword dance, very good.
10 matches in with scarfed blastoise, lost only 2 due to afks, it's so powerful for blastoise during the early game that it helps a lot for snowballing matches
As a Zoroark player I feel Rapid Scarf is really good on it, especially since it helps cover for the nerfs to Night Slash by making the move act much faster. It takes a lot of skill to pull off being able to charge the scarf right before Night Slash but when you do the combo is insanely fast and I feel definitely worth the item
Was just thinking about a Glaceon build with it myself. Looking forward to that
cramorant is surprisingly good with scarf!
Won a bunch of games with it
(Using dive)
I tried on the extreme speed/outrage Dragonite and its not a meme! But I didn't felt like it did MUCH difference either.. Can work, but nothing crazy
Can be quite good on Slowbro with muscle band. It auto attacks a lot, as only 1 of its abilities does damage
I agree with A9, its beautiful how you can defend against 4 ppl only with autos.
Tried some Dragonite matches with Scarf Outrage/Extreme-Speed build while using Eject. It actually felt playable even though it doesn't totally curb all the weaknesses it still has. Overall an improvement though as you get the increased attack speed whilst getting some mobility in your Battle Item.
I'd honestly recommend X Attack with that build. The damage and AS increase from both Outrage and X Attack combined lets you secure certain All ins that otherwise would take too long and you also farm objectives faster.
Especially with 7 pink it's worth building a team around.
Obviously some matchups you might prefer something like Full Heal but X Attack steroids are hard to pass up if you aren't chain disabled too often.
X-Attack with 7 Pink I'd definitely have to try out!
What I've been liking about Eject is being able to chase or in some cases get out of less than ideal situations.
I did try X-Attack too and enjoy it but I think its harder to utilize in SoloQ if you don't have the proper team/support. It's an all-in build that can often go south with the excessive amount of CC in this game. I find Dragonite already does enough and they benefit from being more flexible.
Thanks for recommendations!
Hoping in the future they buff Dragonite's passive to increase defenses even further, making Extreme Speed more viable.
Can you explain to me why he says rapid fire scarf on dragon dance is bad? Like wouldn’t that be great for getting your dragon dance stacks up and also just doing a ton of auto damage and getting off more boosted autos?
@@johnbob1t1 the issue is that its not needed, with ddance the attack speed is already good enough, the problems lie in other parts of the kit.
Scarf can b good for glaceon with the icy wind build. I tried it out a few times. Helps you get all ur ice spears faster, but I feel it takes away too much from the DMG having a sp atk item instead can do for it
Tried Lax with scarf, crown and flail. Damn the heal and dmg, plus the hp of Lax is pretty insane.
It's pretty sweet! What 3rd item do you tend to use? They have so many good options its hard to choose. Before the new items I utilized Cookie + Potion but I haven't done enough testing to know if that's the best route now.
@@jakiru8783 focus band + speed potion or x attack. Practicing in normal games before trying in ranked
Dnite Outrage with the full heal and the rapidfirescarf was too good, try it it is so fun with the addition of the crown, he hurts really fast and he heal himself a lot
3:28 i saw ghatlue's video about it, very fun to play!
BEST. THANK YOU❤
Flail Snorlax with muscle belt and rapid scarf is OP. You just have to think outside the box.
I’ve been playing rapid scarf ttar and it is amazing
Lmaoooo the "it's still buzzwole" part took me tf out 😂
Can you do a tier vid for Drain Crown too?
Icicle spear Rapid fire Glaceon, it’s the move I promise
Dragonite's dragon dance-outrage with rapid scarf will near stun lock anything within melee range. Trust me!
wow here iam thinking im a genuis using it on charizard thanks cris
Rapid fire scarf, rapid spin hydro pump blastoise vídeo when?
soon
I commented as a joke before you ranked blastoise, but nice
Rapid fire scarf on ice shard +(Glaceon), it's pretty great imo
I think venusaur is much better with rapid fire than Blastoise is. Blastoise doesn't really want to be autoing in team fights.
Just tried scarf on buzz and oh my gosh it's really good! I feel like a threat now especially early game!
Buzz is terrible
@@Agent-pd6wx I know, that's why it's surprising. Also he's not even that bad just cause someone's "bottom tier" dosen't mean they are useless. I main buzz and have had great success with him and the scarf has noticeably made him stronger
@@fluffyturtle471 with rps bringing gren and cinder back and better he's probably worse
@@Agent-pd6wx and what are you trying to prove? I never said he was top tier lol. I'm not playing this game competitively I'm just playing for fun using pokemon I actually like while still trying to improve which is why i watch these videos. Scarf works really good on buzz and closing the distance on those ranged attackers is much more rewarding. I didn't think it would impact him much until I tried it after hearing him say it was good. I know why buzz isn't the best mon in unite and frankly I don't care.
Thanks CrisHeroes. You're the best!
Charizard should have an extra passive that lets it convert additional attack speed into crit rate instead
I have no idea how you say Scarf is trolling on Machamp when Dynamic Chop build gives you absurd amounts of AD. Scarf singlehandedly makes glass cannon crit build actually consistent because you aren't praying for two hits to RNG oneshot squishies. Now you can all in people with hypermultiplicative steroids making it very unlikely you won't kill with crits.
Also Machamp boosted auto is one of the best in the game in terms of scaling and utility. Like c'mon Cris...you've actually played this build during eras where it wasn't nearly as good as it is now.
It can't replace any of the others items and is too slow for machamp
@@CrisHeroes What other items? Because I run Razor Scope Scarf and still hit 2k crits.
X Speed for defensive plays and long range initiations.
No focus band needed because you have the mobility to choose where fights happen. No Attack Weight needed because this build still does crazy damage and stacking is garbage against other Scarf mons like Eldegoss.
This build is safer and more damaging than any other version of glass cannon crit Machamp pre-Scarf era unironically.
Also like in general Scarf is busted if you have a strong boosted. Machamp has one of the best boosted autos so...
Ur wrong about machamp... using submission and rs scarf is very good. First hit of sub is 1 auto second backflip hit is 2 autos and 1 more auto after that is 3 and than you trigger scarf and burst down the enemy after with double boosted auto attack speed
highly agree with this list
agree with mamo and ninetales red scarf.. carry me to master
Thx for it
we would like a tier list of pokemons in this season
Greninja best gainer 😁
You were very skilled and charming since liming days. Do you also play sports with this much skill?
I laughed so hard seeing the thumbnail of the video xdd trolling the people who don't open the video
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Every game 100+
With mystical fire.
I play Aegislash with rapid fire. It's a great choice, mostly when you have the 4 basic attacks ready. 1 boosted auto counts as 2 for whatever reason, and when you have all the stacks ready, it's just amazing to see it slash. It also makes early game way better than before, mostly when using muscle band (which you always should)
Eldegoss with Rapid Fire turns into a threat. Lock the enemy in -30% Speed in mid-long range recieving also a bonus damage from the Autos. And we are talking at the beginning of the match, punishing aggressive players.
Both Stun/Hindrance or Healer builds are extreme with Rapid Scarf.
Why balancing Mons when you overhaul the entire tiers just adding this item lol.
Aegislash iron head+shadow claw video wen?
Do you have one for drain crown?
yea dont play drain crown except for maybe on azu
@@CrisHeroes oh wow. Only azumarill? Is it bugged or just a bad item all together?
other items are just better it doesnt heal enough
Charizard maybe should have a Jhinlike mechanic, where it cant gain attack speed, but bonus attack speed is converted into attack damage
Heyo Cris ❤️
Rapid scarf on tyran?
Key item on Cinderella
I think scixor is op with rapid fire scarf
Gardevoar top tier rapid scarf 🤌
Snorlax is a yes yes everything else is fine
Lol you watch Spragels as well to be using his tier style list layout
what?
water urshifu works pretty good with it but prblm is ......... this pokemon sucks 😂😂😂😂
Yes
Nice insight. But no offense. I find you hard to understand because of the accent
sheesh