It bothered me that the Chuck E Cheese pizza conspiracy theory was in the same video where a good friend of his opened up about her abusive relationship. It was so jarring watching the friend talk about her fears then the video cuts to "Chunk E. Cheese might be reusing pizza" then goes back to the friend
Ruben Espinoza Back in June she responded to the backlash about his apology on twitter saying he doesn’t deserve the hate he’s getting and that he’s not who once was etc. And that he’s a nice person because he bought a fan/Apple employee an iPad.
oh and don't forget the one program that mimics people's voices. i don't think i've ever felt so disgusted watching a video when it came to how poorly executed it was. i wish that more youtubers spoke on that
More like you know where it's going but the "positive support" from what I can only say is the people of internet always helps him get through the worst because they approve of unreliable apologies in hopes of (what i assume is) not losing an "entertainment" source. In the end if he had more negative feedback it still wouldn't have changed much because most of the bad stuff he did was when he received no backlash anyway.
@@thisguy9733 Shane Dawson and Onision used to be best friends, and even kissed back in the day. Onision got jealous that Shane got more popular than him and kept bringing up Shane's negative actions for years. But people ignored him because he's Onision.
When I first heard in that podcast "She's like sexy." I thought he was going to elaborate how this little girl was way too sexualized and how messed up it was this little girl was getting all these instagram followers, that her followers might actually be creeps. But.... it went into a TOTALLY different direction.
Thats what i (hoped) to hear at first: How she was over-the-top sexualized/had too much makeup - and had an impressive instagram account, all in that age, which in that conversation was an understandable remark, in a way, but then, like you said, it took a WHOLEEEEEEE new direction. PS. Though i'm leaving myself out of crucial information about this whole case, i jumped over the rest of the podcast section, just because i really did not want to get quasi-detailed info about someone pretending to be a pedo googling naked infants...
I thought that shane and onision were like the ying and yang of youtube. One being great and successful the other being rude, unfunny and insensitive. Never would have thought they were both yangs
@@alien_invation371 SO basically, I ordered fries EXTRA crispy with EXTRA salt, a burger with PERFECT meat well-done with lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, and ketchup, and a PERFECTLY whipped milkshake. they took OVER 5 minutes to get my order. 5 WHOLE minutes.That was too long. I then made a huge problem because they did not make my fries EXTRA crispy. I went inside the store spit on everything they owned ruined everyone’s meal and punched the manager. He then fired me AND my family.. what a douchebag
I remember when the "naked baby" thing happened. I found it so weird how Shane said "and that's gross and weird" as an afterthought as to why he wouldn't google it. It was just odd that his main defense was "I'm busy".
Yeah I feel that the only thing stopping me from committing literally every crime against humanity is because I'm just too busy, I need some more me time 😩
Was a super weird and dumb thing for him to say. He should have thought of what to say before speaking for once. I think he was trying to lean into his cringy humor style tho and deflect how seriousness of the topic.
Somebody defending him not calling someone joking about the SA of a BABY I told them to RESEARCH THE TERM *PAEDOPHILE* . It's about people who can't give consent because of being underage. NOT BABIES. That's the worst kind of P's and often ends with the baby DEAD . DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE MECHANICS WORK OR SHALL I EXPLAIN THEM IN DETAIL ? THEY RIP THE BABY / TODDLER APART, LITERALLY, INSIDE! WHERE DO YOU THINK THE 5 - 6 INCH GO IN A BABY ?
How it used to be: You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain How it is now: You either die a hero or are revealed to be the villain all along
@@rubenthekid And just like Reddit, UA-cam comments repeat the same joke over and over yet for some reason gets a lot of likes and the reply comments are usually like this comment is so underrated.
Something that always kinda confused me was his mom character. His mom character, obviously based on his real mother, was extremely lewd. I’m surprised his mom was so okay with that.
His mother is a weird woman and went along with his inappropriate behavior often. When he tried to get a young girl to twerk online in a video chat, his mom said "Oh good girl!" when she did it... She is no saint.
shane claiming to be an empath is ridiculous. he is selling a fake persona as his real self...his friendliness is just a facade. also the way he kissed those dogs and talked about the cats...NOONE DOES THIS FOR FUN ...there is a true core to a lot of his jokes and its actually quite obvious...and DISGUSTING
As an empath myself, I would never say anything like that. We genuinely “feel” those emotions. Regardless, of if they’re are real or not way more than the average person.
There is a difference between comedy and an unironic pattern of behavior and Shane definitely falls into the latter category. His "nice guy" persona is really just a facade. If there is one thing we known about Shane, it's that he's very deceptive, which is why he was able to get away with all the toxic things he has done for so long. Thankfully, more people are starting to see his true nature.
I'm pretty sure the video where he listed ppls names/usernames was not to 'apologize' to them but rather he was hoping that his stans would go and attack them online while he still looked like a good guy that said 'sorry' and had no idea that his stans would then go onto their profiles and attack them
Isn't she a relationship/marriage therapist? What's she doing diagnosing mental disorders? She later claimed she wasn't told what Shane was going to be specifically looking for, which could be the case if he wanted a "sociopath" narrative and didn't want anybody disputing that. Still, I don't think she should've mentioned criteria for a sociopathy diagnosis if she isn't licensed or qualified to. Admittedly, I've only seen clips of the Jake Paul series.
@@brittneybrisbin744 Tbh, anyone can look up and relay criterias, but she went outside that. Speculating and spread misinformation. She has a channel that i believe that started out helpful, but she definately changed for clout. She started being in (most notably) Shanes sensationalizing vids acting unprofessional. She was especially unhelpful around Eugenia Cooneys illness and has made a really shit video on her channel that just helps the illness to thrive more. It is like if a creator is big she just forgets the truth and says what they want to hear, in Shanes case sensationalizing info and gossy speculating, in Eugenias case, she was afferming her illness in a damaging way. As a "professional" I'd expect her to follow medical recommendations, you know? But most people wont be able to see that she does not. As a "professional" on UA-cam she could have the misinformation edited out if she was just uninformed (we all are sometimes) but she doesnt. She is just willfully bad and dangerous.
@@scandinavegan274 I very much agree with what you said. While I don't know much about her, I know she's gotten heat for videos and generally a lot of online personalities who start off wanting to do good end up just wanting to boost themselves no matter what they have to say to do it. I mean, if we're staying solely in the field of mental health, Dr. Phil is a prime example.
I felt sick watching her little smirk while she called sociopaths "gross" and "ew" while agreeing with Shane they're "monsters". A therapist/mental health professional would NEVER describe something like that the way she did, or demonise it. Because she would/could be alienating her clients that NEED HELP. And worse still is that I see people scuttling all over the internet arm chairing everyone as being a "sociopath" ever since that whole shit show her and shane pulled off. They're literally everywhere still to this day and think they're knowledgeable enough to diagnose someone over one action because they saw that segment, seen only through the internet which is something a professional would NEVER do because not only do you need hours of work to diagnose something like that, people play characters on the internet and it's impossible to tell if they're being real or not. I can't tell you how many faux wanna be therapists running around pointing and shouting "sociopath" because of that bloody documentary. It drives me nuts!
I didn’t actually watch Anna’s movie but I watched Nick DiRamio’s hour long review of it which showed like 70% of it and it was honestly great. You can tell she actually loved and put so much thought into the characters and storyline. She deserved to win. What did Shane even use the prize money on anyways?
his cohost on his podcast at the time literally said you could go online and fill out the survey (which showed you watched both movies) and pick shane’s even if you didn’t watch the movie. which you weren’t allowed to do. no one talks about that
An “empath” would have no trouble understanding that a child, that cannot consent, is victimized repeatedly when content of them is viewed by predators. They’d have no question about the life that those victims must be subjected to in order to end up in such situations. How their lives will be impacted forever by the reach of this content. That is just one example of Shane’s utter lack of genuine empathy.
Also, not really sure an empathy goes around telling everyone they're an empath. Whenever I see people going on about how empathic and sensitive they are, I get kinda skeptical.
Not to mention a real empath wouldve never even done the shit he did bc theyd be sensitive to the response of their audience; he fucks up and is like "sorry didnt even know it would make u mad, this is why i did it, sorry you got hurt by that" and then when people call him out its "i 😤 refuse to perceive this criticism 🚫 no more hate" And then... he bounces back like it never happened, not really much guilt or shame Honestly i didnt notice this before bc i didnt watch him much but it seems more likely he Wants to be an empath and so he focuses so much on trying to be 'nice,' trying to care and be considerate, and actively trying to avoid hate, but he doesnt have these characteristics in his heart and so its a battle of always trying to Live Up to being an empath, but never actually being one And just to tie this in to Tati.... imo she is the real empath, but she made a rookie empath mistake by jumping on james, and allowing herself to be influenced by the antithesis of an empath (jeffree) and someone fake like shane. The fact she hasnt been online at all since i think just really supports her case. And the fact the world hasnt forgiven her and cannot perceive this quality about her. Shane fucked up too many times, to a really bad extent, in many different ways, and he wants the world to ignore those things (like most other popular youtubers w scandals tbh). Tati fucked up once and cant bare to show her face. Its fucked
Narcissists are actually also able to sense people's feelings and needs. The difference is what they sense doesn't touch them and they use it for their good.
I can’t believe the story about Chuck E Cheese was hugely popular while Brittani Louis Taylor’s story about human trafficking went totally unnoticed, how could he even put those two stories in the same video
I still to this day am floored by that documentary and what Brittani went through. I'm normally not overly critical of influencers, content creators in the way they choose to post, edit, whatever - but her story deserved it's own episode.
it was so bizarre to watch. she'd be talking something that her ex said that's one of the most traumatizing things that anyone could hear, and then it cuts straight to them sitting in a chuck e cheese freaking out over pizza. it felt so disrespectful. he definitely should've made it it's own video, and maybe talking about that kind of thing more broadly if he wants to have it be part of something bigger. these stories deserve to be talked about, but they shouldn't be sandwiched in between conspiracy theories about cheese pizza and ai voices
Especially because he's 32 now. I understand that trauma has no age limit, but it's up to the person to help themselves recover in time. At this point, I feel like he's holding onto the "I had a bad childhood" story to make people feel sorry for him.
I have depression, but I've never been racist, pedophilic, disrespectful, rude, and hateful as a result. He gives a bad name to those with depression and anxiety.
I know right. I too had a truly terrible childhood and experienced plenty of abuse from different people. And I did act very horribly because of it as a teen. And while the abuse and trauma I experienced do EXPLAIN my behavior, they don't EXCUSE it. Very big difference. Shane needs to stop using his trauma as a shield to deflect criticism. He needs to own up to his shit for once and for all, and bear the consequences silently. (As a side note - if he truly has changed so much, he'd feel enough shame and guilt about his past actions that he'd bear the consequences and apologize without saying excuse after excuse and feeling like he has to explain himself.)
Well, that and how horrifically offensive it was. Both the content and the creator of that... Sad excuse for a movie were a problem for almost everyone involved.
Jex G yeah but all those deals were way before not cool. So I’m guessing he was u bearable to be around and had horrible ideas so nothing worked lol I doubt Adam Sandler would put up with him at all lol
@@MarillSweatshirt - If I could afford it, I would buy every special edition of The Room in existence. Blu-ray, DVD, VHS, laser disc. If there are any. And I can’t even remember watching The Departed, but I know I have. Lol! I saw Not Cool and I don’t think I finished it. Slapstick humor can be done well, but that wasn’t it. I completely understand why Zachary Quinto said he was never getting that time back after watching it.
Shane: HOW DARE YOU MENTION YOUR ABUSE IN A VIDEO!! MANIPULATIVE!!! Also Shane: Guys I was abused okay? :( I'm sorry :( I use my bad humor to cope with my abuse :(
I don’t fault shane for being abused in anyway. But the times he brought up abuse and molestation he contradicted himself he said in 2018 he was molested. But in his book from 2014? He flat out admits “can’t believe I was never molested.” Contradictions man
@@rachelelizabeth346 i think shane is disgusting but i don't really think that's something to call him out for (aside from the wording). not feeling ready to talk about something so instead alluding or making references to it, even in a way that flat out denies it is pretty common.
@@rachelelizabeth346 a lot of victims of child abuse spend a lot of time in denial or straight up just block memories of it happening as a coping mechanism. it could explain why he said one thing and then another
Him talking about FETISHES when he was “justifying” pedophilia is the actual argument they use nowadays, so I 100% do not believe at all that he was joking.
its a paraphilia along with all the body part fetishes. thats just how science classifies it. acting on it isnt really the same thing, but clinically they are the same category of "thing"
@@Murr248 As someone who has dipped their toes into the kink scene before and done my fair share of experimenting This is my opinion and Keep in mind im into some outlandish things. If your kink involves abusing or Hurting someone or something they cannot consent your king is wrong. Hurting someone or something they cannot consent your king is wrong. If your kink involves causing Irreparable harm Your kink is wrong. I know that some people are into Lake scat and watersports and all that fun stuff. Personally I will never understand that like that's a line I just won't cross. Don't @ me though just my opinion
So, wait, he is allowed to make fun of literally anyone and anything and people shouldn't be offended by it, but other people making fun of his weight in UA-cam comments is off limits?
Gotta take the Bitch called Karma like it is or end up like Shane or Shame. Good or bad, whatever decision u take, make sure to have the word ‘KARMA’ in ur head before u do stupid shit, and if u do happen to have acted or behaved in a stupid way, just genuinely say sorry and don’t Bitch about being canceled or shit, coz people will have their own opinions about u, just like u do about others. I just explained KARMA to SHANE SHAME.
@@PeruvianPotato As do I. In my opinion, almost anything is up for humor, especially because sometimes comedy can serve as a coping mechanism. Comedy also isn't meant to be taken seriously. However, when you base your entire career off of shock humor (which I don't think he was actually doing btw) you have to be ready for people to also throw jokes back at you.
Anyone who claims to be an empath also seems to think they are above everyone else and nobody else feels empathy like they do...That itself (saying other people don't feel emotions like you do) is the opposite of being empathetic. IF someone claims to be an 'empath', be concerned.
I've watched so much drama shit for the past 2 days that I need a break from it. I don't know how people deal with drama everyday or every other day. shit is tiring yo. Lol
Same... but I think it helps me grieve. I followed Shane for a decade, I loved his content and the version of himself her marketed to us. All the scandals have tainted that, and it does hurt, I truly feel dirty.
Honestly we all do messed up things. We've all made mistakes big and small. Shane and Jeffrey star didn't acknowledge their faults until everyone called them out on it. It shows that they didn't care. If you care and respect you audience you should be the first to a dress any sort of allegations of anything of the sort. As a content creator, influencer, and role model you should inspire others to be the best they can be and own up to your mistakes to grow. Tell the truth and it becomes part of your past Lie and deny and it becomes your future
Aros Bastion It all depends on the person. If the person saying the joke was known for doing and saying things deemed offensive, question it. If the person gets offended, apologise. If the person just stares at you with a -_- face, make a joke on how you can't write jokes. Jokes are all fun and games until it gets touchy and personal.
He tried to do what brandon rogers was doing except he couldn't differentiate his true personality and his personas. That's why it's ridiculous he started proclaiming to be an empath.
@Raviz, Cherry Mae Have you actually watched his past videos? I’m not defending him but did you actually see till the very end of Shane’s videos? He always added a lesson of life and how people can learn from his skits. Of course the way he did it was not always good, but Shane always wanted his followers to learn something and that’s why he didn’t end up like onision.
Surely with all his money he can afford therapy. He needs to do something about his self hatred. His weight issues and his unpopularity. He’s an adult now with hopes to have children - he needs to resolve this shit before he can be happy and truly productive. Time to grow up Shane, I don’t know why with all your profits you’re still clamouring to become UA-cam popular with the UA-cam mean girls. He acts like a teenager.
That's where I draw the line. Shane has ample time and money to fix his issues that made his humor so dark. But he won't. He won't overcome himself and keeps company like Jeffree for money.
I honestly never wanna hear he has kids. Like ever. He’s said way to many ridiculous things with minors and children. He’s disgusting, I wouldn’t even allow him to change a diaper.
I am no way defending him but lets be honest, kids that age already talk that way. I know because I did when I was 8 trying to act older than I was along with my friends at the time
he heavily sugarcoats his action in his video, and only addresses it and quickly moves past it. This is how i know its not heartfelt and that he did it to save face
@@PeruvianPotato Yea, among other kids their age. There's a difference, as when they're talking with each other, they acknowledge that they probably shouldn't act on it. When adults talk to them about it, it's normalized and kids at a young age would be more susceptible to grooming, r*pe, etc.
I still feel so bad for Bobby burns. Shane knew exactly what he was doing setting him up to be torn apart by his loyal fan base. Poor guy could’ve been so successful but Shane didn’t like him talking about his controversies and took him down.
Ok, I hate him too, but blaming him for the downfall of Bobby Burns is just not it. He’s done bad shit, you don’t need to try to make up a reason. You really think Shane masterminded and planned a whole scheme to take him down by giving Bobby tons of support by attempting to boost his channel and giving him a car? That’s ridiculous.
I think everyone can change from their past. The problem with Shane is that he hasn't changed at all. The dramas that keep popping up are his deep problems.
@@huntingaliens5477 they only kept popping up because he kept doing shit that would cause people to dig further back and find a treasure trove of bull. Every time he did something new, people were just reminding others that he's been doing fucked up shit. People who actually change, don't keep doing the same shit and their pasts mostly get forgotten
I notice a pattern with him. He dose something messed up says sorry and gives some sob story about how difficult things for are then the cycle begins all over again
@G Bop 🤔 I have narrowed it down to three suspects and from my investigation into the Tupac case I believe it was Maggie Simpson, Pikachu or the virtual assistant paper clip from windows computers but I will let you know when I have found out which one of the three did it.
I really like how you never demonized Shane so after 40 minutes of cheering for him the only reason you feel as disgusted as you do is because of Shane’s actions and his actions alone.
So many people use the clip where he says "That's just how our family is" to excuse the inappropriate things he said to his cousin, but not body ever seems to point out, if true, how telling that is about Shane's family. It's no excuse for his actions, he's old enough to know that shit ain't normal, just an observation.
Plus when he told his cousin to do inappropriate stuff he recorded it and uploaded it to youtube. He exposed a sexualized version of his underage cousin to a bunch of random people, some of whom might've been pedophiles....
im gonna disagree. You can be the kindest person in the world but when faced by your entire career ending and image being destroyed, I would be like that too. Especially if you are an anxious person. it doesn't mean all the kind things he's done is fake. That being said he's gross still lol
does anyone else just like cringe at the way shane dawson used to hold his head? and like it’s obviously to keep his bangs from falling into his face but it just annoys me so much, i can’t stand to watch his old videos. my neck hurts just thinking about it
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My side swoop is very bad, like his, but the way he tilts his head is very bad for his neck. (I believe) Like he needs a hairclip, he probably hurt his neck doing that lose s I often. THat's why he has double chins, to hide his neck problem.
Chuck E Cheese's pizza are miss shaped because there's a 16 year old in the kitchen cutting the pizza and shit. I worked at chuck e cheeses for 4 years.
@@AndriaSilvaful I've worked at a lot of pizza places and a lot of my coworkers could not make even halves to save their lives. You just triggered me lol.
i remember in his video with kathy griffin, he mentioned how filming a video at work got his him, his mom and his brother fired, and made everyone feel bad for him, when now we know that it wasn’t just the fact that he made a video at work, it was that he was making inappropriate videos at work. this is just one way shane manipulates people into feeling sorry for him
To be fair, while it’s his own fault and he deserved to be fired, I don’t think his mom or brother deserved to be fired for his actions tbh. Businesses shouldn’t punish family members for being related to someone who did something shitty. Idk this situation gets talked about a lot and compared to all the other gross shit he did, it’s like this isn’t that bad?? Fuck the company for firing his family members for HIS actions.
@@briannawaldorf8485 if I remember correctly his mom too was making racist comments with him in the video he made on his work place or something that got him fired.
Something that always bothered me was no one ever said, about his “justification for pedophilia” that an adult can consent to using their feet or something, but beastiality and pedophilia are illegal because those groups cannot give consent. That’s why you can go to jail for it, not to forget the trauma it can cause to these groups and how it can skyrocket the chances of a child to develop mental disorders or become murderers/molestors themselves. That’s why it’s illegal.
I never saw young Shane Dawson before, is it me or Onision is like his copycat? Seriously, their ressemblance in speech and even just physically speaking is kind of uncanny
They actually used to be friends way back in the early days of youtube, but they had a falling out. Apparently they also kissed at some point for a video? And Onision has been accusing Shane of being a pedophile for years, which is... ironic. Basically their whole history together is just super, super bizarre.
See back then UA-cam had darker humor which onision and Shane were known for basically edgy shit and I found it hypocritical people who laughed for that ended up saying its messed up when they found it funny themselves.
They were really close and they had the same style however onision took it to heart when they had a falling out and never stopped making videos on it. To this day onision talks ab Shane
Just because he was insecure at times, that doesn't excuse sexualizing children in skits or his wearing blackface. UPDATE: Alright, a few things: I am not trying to say that Shane should be "cancelled" for his past behavior, nor am I saying that I don't get that some people would not be bothered by blackface (but really that side of his "apology" is not meant for you, so you can't really forgive it if you aren't the target of it). Besides, people have the right to call it disingenuous of an apology because of the fact that it is always motivated by fear on his end. I am black, and I do admit that I don't really have much issue with it, or something I won't beat someone over the head with (but I do find Shane saying he had no idea that blackface was done in minstrel shows and that it was meant to offend blacks laughable as an excuse) . I think it's more the fact that his branch of humor is bad. At the least that while it is true that comedy is subjective and anything can be joked about, we can at least come to an agreement that Shane simply is not funny. But mainly my main issue with Shane is of course the skits where he sexualized children.
@@neues3691 well let me explain. They come from menstrual shows. Basically white people would paint there face black and make fun of black people. So think of every minority stereotype and crank it up to 100. Than have white people make fun of them
@@neues3691 they absolutely should be able to, but blackface takes it a step too far. One doesn't need to cake their face with flour and make jokes about having sexual relations with their sister to make a good joke about white people. Y'know?
@@YourPalFry I think she meant it was the nail in the coffin for Shane. Less people seem to care about his racism than his sexualizing of children. He probably wouldn't have come under so much scrutiny if not for the pedophilic and zoophilic "jokes."
Let's take a step back and ignore everything else. He kissed a 12 year old girl. HE. KISSED. A. 12. YEAR. OLD. GIRL. That is disgusting and horrifying and he should be arrested for that.
@@milkshakes3975 That as well is enough of a reason for him to be deplatformed/cancelled/whatever you want to call it even if he didn't do anything else, but yet somehow he's still on the platform getting millions of views
for those who dont know, shane has been making minor appearances on his instagram story and even appeared on rylands podcast. on the podcast he proceeded to call the stuff he was cancelled for "dumb drama"... for those who were hoping he'd change, im so sorry. he really hasnt.
@ConfusedOilPainter Please dont call him a pedophile. As weird and inappropriate his humor was back then, i genuinely don’t think he is attracted to babies. As he said, it was all for shock value and humor back then was quite different and indeed weird… i just dont like how people throw the term out so recklessy when there are people that are ACTUALLY attracted to kids & engage in it.
@@autumnblack6373 yeahhh.. especially when you see his newest videos. you can just see he has no remorse for the people he negatively affects, especially bipoc
Ellen and Shane both projected a warm,kind personality when they were actually awful people in reality..And now they are going down together....makes u think really when u have a certain amount of power and what u do with it can determine what kind of person you really are..
The people who have such power tend to be awful people despite the persona they present. People don't get into positions of power by being "warm" and "kind".
Ellen's not that awful when compared to the majority of other celebrities, she's just kind of privileged and out of touch for somebody who tries to be down-to-earth
I really really feel like hes a narcissist. No, not what everyone thinks a narcissist is where they just really like themselves. An actual narcissist who masks who they really are by claiming hes an empath instead of the truth that he doesn't have empathy at all
Narcissistic people are actually filled with insecurity and self loathing which is why they must put others down to prop themselves up. They are fuelled by attention and validation. Nothing else truly gets through.
I agree 100%. I also strongly believe that his current mask is trying to mimic Garett’s personality. Shane seemed to have had a major personality shift after he met Garett. Just my personal conspiracy theory.
I remember being so excited seeing those streamys and then this guy with the ukelele start shading everyone and it was fun and cute but then he said that to shane and THE WHOLE ROOM WENT SILENT, that guy is a hero
@@Privatesilvialol yea kinda like when ricky gervais hosted the golden globes, almost all of them you'll hear gasps like they're shocked someone could say something controversial. So fake, it's why I don't follow these mainstream wanabes.
Shane's comment about how he was also molested doesn't make sense in that context. I'm truly sorry that happened to him, but he doesn't get to discount someone else's trauma because he was also traumatized. If anything, that's should make him more compassionate toward other victims.
But Tati was clearly being manipulative in that entire video? How do people not see that lol it’s sad she went thrkigh that but using it as a way to manipulate isn’t cool so I can understand why Shane was upset, especially seeing as he was abused too and was seeing it being used as a manipulation tool
I don't want to say that his molestation claim is fake, but I think it was in his first book that he wrote that he was surprised that he wasn't because of his eyelashes or something. I don't have his books anymore so I can't tell you exactly where it is
@@sasukesbussy7101 no one is saying Tati wasn’t being manipulative in that video, the problem is Shane’s immediate response was try to out-manipulate her
@@Bvshbvnny shane himself questioned whether he was actually abused when he reconciled with his dad. He didn’t flat out say it didn’t happen, but he did say that a LOT of the stuff he thought he went through as a kid didn’t happen or weren’t as bad as he remembered
from my perspective of someone who was abused as a child repeatedly, I get it on both fronts. I think that’s why I felt bad and leaned more on his side during that huge blow out when everything was coming out, It’s hard because victims of sa have a different way of reacting. Sometimes there’s so much anger and hurt and other times you just feel TOO MUCH sympathy to the point you are too trusting or too easily manipulative if someone had a similar experience/uses their sa to make you feel for them
I always thought blackface was created, not to make fun of African Americans, but because they weren’t allowed to star in films. So they started dressing up as them, eventually making fun of them, yes. So i don’t think he did any research
"I didn't know that blackface was historically used to make fun of black people, so you should forgive me for using it to make fun of black people in the recent past." oh ok
My thing is even no knowing the history, which he did because people where consistantly calling him out for it but he blew it off as hate, I don't understand how for so long he did it and saw nothing wrong with it.
It’s also such bullshit to say that you “didn’t know” that blackface was wrong. It’s not like every public school in America tells you in history class why people said the n word or put on blackface, etc. he just didn’t care
I'm very happy with how seriously our culture takes pedophilia. Its such a huge problem across the world - it should be criminalized far more heavily in my opinion. Children are literally the most important group of people in our country
not just in america but everywhere. people forget children are humans. this is why i heavily disagree with ANY harm done to children, including beating them up as a "lesson".
@Jack-px8lf compared to where ? Half the world still lets 13 year old girls be married. Arabs believe that girls as young as 4 or 5 can be made wives. I fully, fully support taking it as seriously as we possibly can but I'm not going to pretend like we don't. Its legitimately one of the worst things a person can do in our society.
Actually, Shane LOST HIS JOB at Jenny Craig because of a HIGHLY RACIST video he made while on the job. He always referred to his losing his job as an underdog story, but nooo. The truth is the video he made while on the job was horrific an Jenny Craig was appalled.
Either way, he defaced the company partook in inappropriate content with his co workers and shot a racist video at the time. Probably all of them contributed.
Just to be clear I’m not defending him but you gotta at least tell use what he did, the narrator said his family was also fired and I doubt they would all be fired if it was just something he said. Who knows tho 🤷🏻♂️
Just gonna put this out there: it's not uncommon for pedos to also be into zoophilia since a lot of them get off on the control they have over their victim(s). Do with that information what you will.
No matter what he says, claims or portrays, Shane HAS ALWAYS known what he was doing. He's always known what was wrong or right. He simply justified his wrongs on being an "insecure, overweight, poor kid". He's not intellectually deficient, he's just a terrible, scary, very much potentially dangerous person. An influential person at that when it comes to his social media following. Nothing justifies the awful things he's done.
We so so so truly need to forgive people for slights in their pasts so that they can move on and improve. But when it’s referring to things like child and animal abuse it is not a mistake or act of immaturity; it’s predatory behavior which isn’t checked and people let fly under the radar. I think it might be best to evaluate mistakes and shortcomings on a case by case basis and in this case he didn’t apologize for the legitimately bad videos and opted to cherry pick which videos deserved to be given attention and apologized over. It’s easier, for example, to -> excuse blackface vs -> explain m*sturbating in front of Willow Smith’s poster implying she gets him off or -> humping your dog for what reason exactly??? No apologies were at length discussing these issues and none even brought them up other than him saying “oh I think I might have done some immature things but I was young and stupid.” At some point we all are or were young and stupid and I guarantee the majority of people never made jokes like that or did inappropriate behaviors with their pets or kissed underage kids or even pretend jerked off to children. It’s not stupid nor is it naivety. It’s disgusting.
We will never know if the cat humping is true. But having multiple cats you could never hump one and still have an intact penis. That was just a disgusting unfunny joke. He did apologice for that.
@@romilemon Theres a lot of other content of him actually interacting with animals that was weird, regardless of if its old, there was a lot of that content. Js in case you didnt know, or wanted to know :p
There is evidence of him doing sexual things to animals also the cat thing wasn’t frame like a joke either. He just said that afterwards when he got called out. If you want more info on the situation I suggest watching dangelo Wallace’s video on him.
Gray Cat this comment. Yes. D’Angelo actually posted up a video on Shane and shows examples of him being inappropriate with animals and children. You’re right.
When I was younger and watched his videos I used to think how unfair it was for the company to fire his whole family. Now it makes sense and is completely justified? Talk about playing the victim
how does one even come up with jerking off to willow? I’ve had a lot of similar traumas and experiences as shane and the worst thing i can think of doing to the poster while still having an ounce of humor is drawing a mustache on it or taking a pic of me flipping it off, but jerking off???? who the hell comes up with that other than a pedo? literally what?
The thing is, it’s not like his racist humor was more allowed back then. Black face was perfectly fine during the segregation times, but it was still racist as hell. It’s just that we now see how racist it is. It was never not racist.
I also dont like how he explains that black face was this thing was WAY BACK in the day...it still happens (I mean literally we have a prime example right here)
Hanskah even though whiteface started in the 19th century, there is no origin of it being racist, or meant to dehumanize white people. Unlike blackface who’s main goal was to make black people look like lesser beings. So in short, that leaves whiteface nowhere In my opinion, dressing up as any race to make fun of it is wrong
@@huntsman9316 You're either lying or just plain wrong. The main defense of whiteface is that whiteface does not draw on a legacy of racism in the way that blackface does. In other words, it's not as racist as blackface. The origin of whiteface itself is rather murky. However, Lew Dockstader is credited as having both blackface and whiteface performances. Furthermore, blackface is actually not as black and white, if you'll pardon the pun, as so many believe it is.
@@icarusflies9670 i don't even think it necessarily even resurfaced she called herself out and took responsibility ON HER OWN so it's different when shane does it simply because he's pressured by the public
@@caroqt 1st of all: The difference between Jenna and Shane is that Jenna WILLINGLY called herself out on it and shared what she did to her audience. Nobody called her out on it nor did it resurface. She did it without anyone calling her out. Shane has been called our numerous times over the same thing but has never really apologized. He has always pushed it under the rug. 2nd: What does Jenna have anything to do with this? This is a video about Shane, don't bring Jenna into this.
Can I just say I hate how Shane says "I dont even know that person" (in reference to his old self). Dont try to separate yourself from your past behavior. That was still you!own up to it
this! it’s textbook manipulation, the type of shit abusers do to their victims to get away with it. his entire “apology” was just him manipulating his audience by separating himself from his own behaviour so he doesn’t lose their monetary support under the guise of taking accountability. at least he didn’t really get away with it and most people saw through it
He's a terrible person but there is some truth to that statement. You are not the same person as you were when you were a teen. I'm 30 and I used to pull pranks in my teens, people in my childhood home town still think I'm like that. You develop your character the most during the late teen years if you think of it. This isn't to detract from the fact that Shane has issues still, the guy's an adult now and needs therapy.
@@soarrefly sure you're right you do change. But that was still something you did. The thing is, hes not owning up to it and trying to distance himself from his past behavior so he can just brush it off and not actually acknowledge what hes done.
when you grow up you will notice how much that is not true. Don't take as offence but I can clearly see that you are younger than 18 from this comment.
everyone deserves a second chance and he has already had a huge back lash, its time REAL Shane fans support thier idol because he deserves a second chance already he has apologized like 50 times.
Okay. So let's say the cat story is false. How does a man get into a scandal by calling a 6 year old sexy, and saying he googled naked babies not learn that depraved sexual shit said in a podcast will be noticed and spread around? If it's a joke, he's a idiot. If it's not, he's a monster. I can't really feel sorry for him. There's just too much here.
"he doesn't make these videos anymore" but yet he was still profiting off most of them until very recently when he finally deleted a bunch of his old shit. Not to mention was selling the shanaynay merch up until like 2018. AND he, himself admitted that all past apologies were disingenuous, so how are we supposed to believe this time is different? I started watching Shane in like 2011 when I was only 11-12 and blindly supported him for years. Seeing a huge creator behave this way normalized it for me for way too long until I finally got my head out of my ass and realized what a horrible person he was. Who knows how many millions upon millions of impressionable kids (just like myself back then) think this stuff is ok because of him... and who knows how many of them will never change. I don't think he'll ever be "cancelled", he will probably always have a massive fanbase backing him up, but it's important that he finally starts taking actual accountability and matching his actions to his words. Personally I can't ever support him again, but at least I can go in peace if I see him finally grow up for real
i agree with everything you said. but the only thing you got wrong is he was still profiting off of Shanaynay merch until AFTER his pallet with jeffree cams out😟😟
Lmao. I agree with most of what you said but do not based your peace on him growing up or not. Feel guilty for not knowing better and being duped by him, and move on with ya life. You’re better than him.
I will say this for Shane that both benefitted him and contributed to his downfall: somehow, he saw the writing on the wall and saw the culture of UA-cam start to shift away from edgy skits to more "personal" content, even pivoting to true crime content with his documentaries but all that older content was still there. The cynic in me thinks the "dramas" for the blackface stuff made him shift to more personal, emotional content and just bury that older cringe content, hoping his fans would soon forget it completely. Unfortunately, he also was on UA-cam long enough to see apology videos become their own subgenre of UA-cam content you can perfect just like comedy sketches. As long as you SEEM sorry and ACT like you are sorry and make yourself seem like the victim somehow, it usually makes the drama die down eventually and you don't have to think about it because now your fans feel sorry for you and become more endeared to you. The problem is being accountable for your actions, understanding what you did wrong and growing and changing is not something he ever learned, hence the defensive and exasperated attitude with the later apology videos; you can practically hear him sigh heavily and roll his eyes like "GAWD! I ALREADY said I was SORRY!" Just burying it and getting into more drama means it'll just keep piling up and then it hit a breaking point where he had a huge meltdown. It's also really telling how he's still just "performing" by just throwing out that he was molested during the livestream, like he still wants to be seen as someone deserving of his audiences' pity even while he's spiraling out of control.
This guy on twitter wrote an open letter to Shane Dawson basically telling him that others have been through similar shit in life but haven’t done what Shane has done, so he needs to stop using his past to hide his shameful behavior
The only reason he hasn't been arrested is because there's technically no concrete way to prove that he did that. It sucks because he should be behind bars without a doubt
Dude Shane tricked us into believing he was a terrible actor with So Cool and thats what pissed me off the most...this man convinced most of UA-cam he was a decent person...
I honestly believe no one should say it, yes that includes black folks...I mean the damn word is imbedded in pop culture with things such as Rap and the whole "Black pass" is an idiotic concept and creates segregation towards other races. Personally I couldn't care any less about the word, but if people wanna cancel you just because you were following the verses of some rap, then since the word is incredibly offensive to them, might as well start "canceling" the artists and folks that let it slip out their mouths.
@@goop_6537 unless you are black you have no say in this. plus the n word is used by black people to take back the derogatory racial slur just like the f slur
No, Shane. The sixties were not a long time ago. The practice of black face did not evaporate at the turning of the Ninetieth century, Shane. Black People had and still have to fight for those negative, pervasive representations to go away. Not only did you perpetuate negative stereotypes, you single handedly brought minstrel shows to UA-cam and are taking NO accountability whatsoever, nor are you educating yourself. That part about his “apology” shows he has learned nothing
^^^ african americans who were children during the 60s-70s, the peak of jim crow laws, are still alive today! it's not as "in the past" as people like to pretend, that excuse just isn't going to cut it for me
"people like shane who recycle offensive stereotypes and think its not a big deal when they do BLACKFACE are incredibly ignorant. racism is not dead, even thought slavery and jim crow are no longer a thing" = "fuck the civil rights movement" ? nice strawman my dude
Peruvian Potato You aren’t black, so you don’t get to speak for black people. You’re hispanic. Educate yourself before you get triggered by basic human rights.
love how he yells about tati talking about her trauma only to talk about his trauma immediately afterwards as if his trauma is valid while hers isn’t (especially when he uses it as an excuse for racism) like ????
Damn, you gotta be a whole new level of fucked up to get yourself, your family and 6 other people fired at the same time. I wonder how these coworkers felt then and feel now about him
"... People who delight in torturing defenseless children or tiny creatures are in reality insane. The terrible thing is that people who are madmen in private may wear a totally bland and innocent expression in public." -- Akira Kurosawa
OMG, I'm so glad Joon mentioned Katie Morton. I study psychology atm and i enjoy commentary and psychology content - including her channel - on youtube. I had no idea she had a collab with Shane and yeah, it was a big bummer for me. I really dislike throwing words like "narcissist" and "sociopath" so easily, especially that not many psychology expert will actually use the word sociopath. Also the term 'empath' is just... Just pretentious. You knowing what people like to hear does not mean you're an empath.
@@nicholassapphire2022 I know it been a long time but using those words are actually pretty bad because not only are they not actual diagnosis anymore and fall under a broader category of antisocial personality disorder, but perpetuate negative stereotypes about less 'insta worthy' and digestible disorders. A person with the disorder and that genuinely tries to manage it is not going to show this behavior. Bad people aren't just mentally ill and mentally illness isn't always the cause either.
@Nirroir she didn't just hang out with him for one day but also claims (she had a video about it on her channel) they are great friends and she won't apologize for the documentary episode she made with him. Maybe you think of me as a judgemental person but I'm more concerned with her responsibility of being a very public therapist and I don't like the decisions she's making in that context.
I've commented similar things on other videos about shane, but I think it could add something here. Shane seems to think that being an empathetic person is a get out of jail free card. Just so we're clear, I personally do not believe that he is very empathetic, but I also believe that it doesn't matter. Even if he IS as amazingly empathetic as he claims, that does not say anything about who he is. You can feel all of someone's pain and still decide that you couldn't give less of a shit about it. Yes, people with high empathy tend to be kind, but that is not a set rule. Who you are is defined by the decisions you make, not the things you feel.
yep. even if it's not intentional manipulation tactic to make the kids feel like they have some sort of special bond, an adult seeking comfort from kids just shows theyre unable to form connection with people their own age. basically no matter what it is there must be smth wrong wit the adult.
Meh he was a young guy just venting to a camera, not aiming at a young audience purposefully. It's the fact that once he knew his demographic was kids he still kept up some pretty deplorable behaviour.
Honestly? If he did it in a respectable fashion, I think it could be a very good thing. Like him talking about depression, how it's okay to have it, how you shouldn't be ashamed, talking about how many people suffer from it, speaking about his experiences, and educating the audience on how to get help. That'd be a very different story. But him just giving sob stories to have people pity him and pity-love him, or to forgive his mistakes, or using them to make his "empath" character more believable... Or even to manipulate kids... That's gross.
This like third hour long video I'm watching about this guy I never cared about or watched.
Lol same
Same here
same shit here
Same. I have no idea why I care or am interested. I did not know who he was before the whole cat controversy.
Was one of the other ones from d’angelo lmao
It bothered me that the Chuck E Cheese pizza conspiracy theory was in the same video where a good friend of his opened up about her abusive relationship. It was so jarring watching the friend talk about her fears then the video cuts to "Chunk E. Cheese might be reusing pizza" then goes back to the friend
Oh yeah I remember that 😩 that whole video made me so angry
How do you just cut to chuckee cheese pizza after your friend is crying ???
@@lolabola7819 I really want to know where she's at now, and whether she distanced herself from SD in light of these issues SD has.
Ruben Espinoza Back in June she responded to the backlash about his apology on twitter saying he doesn’t deserve the hate he’s getting and that he’s not who once was etc. And that he’s a nice person because he bought a fan/Apple employee an iPad.
I remember that video.. it was so confusing to me. I wish he'd just made two videos instead of combining them.
oh and don't forget the one program that mimics people's voices. i don't think i've ever felt so disgusted watching a video when it came to how poorly executed it was. i wish that more youtubers spoke on that
This is "yeah ok, he's just a weirdo" for 40 minutes and then it gets REALLY DARK REALLY QUICKLY
More like you know where it's going but the "positive support" from what I can only say is the people of internet always helps him get through the worst because they approve of unreliable apologies in hopes of (what i assume is) not losing an "entertainment" source. In the end if he had more negative feedback it still wouldn't have changed much because most of the bad stuff he did was when he received no backlash anyway.
Shieeet, you were not wrong.
I thought shane dawson was onionson
guess you could say he’s corrupted huh
@@thisguy9733 Shane Dawson and Onision used to be best friends, and even kissed back in the day. Onision got jealous that Shane got more popular than him and kept bringing up Shane's negative actions for years. But people ignored him because he's Onision.
When I first heard in that podcast "She's like sexy." I thought he was going to elaborate how this little girl was way too sexualized and how messed up it was this little girl was getting all these instagram followers, that her followers might actually be creeps. But.... it went into a TOTALLY different direction.
Me too! I thought he was going to say that she was done up too much like an adult..
Thats what i (hoped) to hear at first: How she was over-the-top sexualized/had too much makeup - and had an impressive instagram account, all in that age, which in that conversation was an understandable remark, in a way, but then, like you said, it took a WHOLEEEEEEE new direction.
PS. Though i'm leaving myself out of crucial information about this whole case, i jumped over the rest of the podcast section, just because i really did not want to get quasi-detailed info about someone pretending to be a pedo googling naked infants...
Isn’t he gay?
@@loupcaldeira he's bi
ME TOO, but then his copresenters are instantly suspicious and distressed and he’s acting like he’s actually excited and that’s just really awful.
I thought that shane and onision were like the ying and yang of youtube. One being great and successful the other being rude, unfunny and insensitive. Never would have thought they were both yangs
Jenna Marbles is the yin
Sadly Onision tried to warn all of us but we didn't listen!
Joe Lawry ye but hes as predatory as him. Thats like hitler calling out stalin.
@@laugrimdude He really is. But it doesn't change that we were blinded to the truth because of who was saying it.
Cat Poke ye not gonne argue with that but the documentary thing was objectively bad even if onision didnt make it
Brooo he really got his whole family fired lmao. Damnnnn bro
I got mine fired Lol if you wanna know lmk
@@zayna5376 I do wanna know
@@alien_invation371 SO basically, I ordered fries EXTRA crispy with EXTRA salt, a burger with PERFECT meat well-done with lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, and ketchup, and a PERFECTLY whipped milkshake. they took OVER 5 minutes to get my order. 5 WHOLE minutes.That was too long. I then made a huge problem because they did not make my fries EXTRA crispy. I went inside the store spit on everything they owned ruined everyone’s meal and punched the manager. He then fired me AND my family.. what a douchebag
@@zayna5376 so is this satire or
@@casinopolis Satire?
Shane Dawson - “I wanna be the Ellen of UA-cam” 2020 - “Ellen and Shane go down within the same month” Congrats Shane you made it.
LMAO
Omg lol
Everyone will get what they want one day.. Be careful what you wish for
LITERALLY
literal example of being careful what you wish for
I remember when the "naked baby" thing happened. I found it so weird how Shane said "and that's gross and weird" as an afterthought as to why he wouldn't google it. It was just odd that his main defense was "I'm busy".
Like.. you couldn't come up with a better defense? Like it's morally fucking wrong??
It literally would take anyone a second. Saying "you're too busy" isn't a defense, it's a flimsy excuse.
Yeah I feel that the only thing stopping me from committing literally every crime against humanity is because I'm just too busy, I need some more me time 😩
Was a super weird and dumb thing for him to say. He should have thought of what to say before speaking for once. I think he was trying to lean into his cringy humor style tho and deflect how seriousness of the topic.
Somebody defending him not calling someone joking about the SA of a BABY I told them to RESEARCH THE TERM *PAEDOPHILE* .
It's about people who can't give consent because of being underage.
NOT BABIES.
That's the worst kind of P's and often ends with the baby DEAD . DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE MECHANICS WORK OR SHALL I EXPLAIN THEM IN DETAIL ?
THEY RIP THE BABY / TODDLER APART, LITERALLY, INSIDE!
WHERE DO YOU THINK THE 5 - 6 INCH GO IN A BABY ?
How it used to be: You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
How it is now: You either die a hero or are revealed to be the villain all along
both work
Makes enough sense.
UA-cam comments really are just Reddit comments. Y’all rip someone off a month later thinking no one will notice.
@@rubenthekid And just like Reddit, UA-cam comments repeat the same joke over and over yet for some reason gets a lot of likes and the reply comments are usually like this comment is so underrated.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 It is infuriating
Something that always kinda confused me was his mom character. His mom character, obviously based on his real mother, was extremely lewd. I’m surprised his mom was so okay with that.
If you've seen videos with his mom, you'll know why.
His mother is a weird woman and went along with his inappropriate behavior often. When he tried to get a young girl to twerk online in a video chat, his mom said "Oh good girl!" when she did it... She is no saint.
@Joong Kim he what...
He got her lots of money off his content. She had no room for complaint.
I'm not saying this to be mean but she never seemed terribly bright.
shane claiming to be an empath is ridiculous. he is selling a fake persona as his real self...his friendliness is just a facade. also the way he kissed those dogs and talked about the cats...NOONE DOES THIS FOR FUN ...there is a true core to a lot of his jokes and its actually quite obvious...and DISGUSTING
This this this.
Also, the "interview" with his niece seemed a lot more than just a bit.
I believe that in every joke there is a tiny piece of truth and you can tell a lot about a person by the jokes they tell
As an empath myself, I would never say anything like that. We genuinely “feel” those emotions. Regardless, of if they’re are real or not way more than the average person.
Honestly if he thinks that shit is funny it says more about his character than anything else.
There is a difference between comedy and an unironic pattern of behavior and Shane definitely falls into the latter category. His "nice guy" persona is really just a facade. If there is one thing we known about Shane, it's that he's very deceptive, which is why he was able to get away with all the toxic things he has done for so long. Thankfully, more people are starting to see his true nature.
I'm pretty sure the video where he listed ppls names/usernames was not to 'apologize' to them but rather he was hoping that his stans would go and attack them online while he still looked like a good guy that said 'sorry' and had no idea that his stans would then go onto their profiles and attack them
Bingo
I hope not but I'm afraid you might be spot on
Katie Morton IS unprofessional and someone needs to revoke her licence.
Isn't she a relationship/marriage therapist? What's she doing diagnosing mental disorders? She later claimed she wasn't told what Shane was going to be specifically looking for, which could be the case if he wanted a "sociopath" narrative and didn't want anybody disputing that. Still, I don't think she should've mentioned criteria for a sociopathy diagnosis if she isn't licensed or qualified to. Admittedly, I've only seen clips of the Jake Paul series.
@@brittneybrisbin744 Tbh, anyone can look up and relay criterias, but she went outside that. Speculating and spread misinformation. She has a channel that i believe that started out helpful, but she definately changed for clout. She started being in (most notably) Shanes sensationalizing vids acting unprofessional. She was especially unhelpful around Eugenia Cooneys illness and has made a really shit video on her channel that just helps the illness to thrive more. It is like if a creator is big she just forgets the truth and says what they want to hear, in Shanes case sensationalizing info and gossy speculating, in Eugenias case, she was afferming her illness in a damaging way. As a "professional" I'd expect her to follow medical recommendations, you know? But most people wont be able to see that she does not. As a "professional" on UA-cam she could have the misinformation edited out if she was just uninformed (we all are sometimes) but she doesnt. She is just willfully bad and dangerous.
@@scandinavegan274 I very much agree with what you said. While I don't know much about her, I know she's gotten heat for videos and generally a lot of online personalities who start off wanting to do good end up just wanting to boost themselves no matter what they have to say to do it. I mean, if we're staying solely in the field of mental health, Dr. Phil is a prime example.
I felt sick watching her little smirk while she called sociopaths "gross" and "ew" while agreeing with Shane they're "monsters". A therapist/mental health professional would NEVER describe something like that the way she did, or demonise it. Because she would/could be alienating her clients that NEED HELP.
And worse still is that I see people scuttling all over the internet arm chairing everyone as being a "sociopath" ever since that whole shit show her and shane pulled off. They're literally everywhere still to this day and think they're knowledgeable enough to diagnose someone over one action because they saw that segment, seen only through the internet which is something a professional would NEVER do because not only do you need hours of work to diagnose something like that, people play characters on the internet and it's impossible to tell if they're being real or not. I can't tell you how many faux wanna be therapists running around pointing and shouting "sociopath" because of that bloody documentary. It drives me nuts!
i seriously agree and i usually never think internet drama should interfere with someone's profession but she's using it in a terrible way
Real talk, Anna Martemucci was robbed of that win.
i didn't even watch it but i feel like anna deserved the dub. 😔
I didn’t actually watch Anna’s movie but I watched Nick DiRamio’s hour long review of it which showed like 70% of it and it was honestly great. You can tell she actually loved and put so much thought into the characters and storyline. She deserved to win. What did Shane even use the prize money on anyways?
She was!!!! I watched this at the time and she should’ve won 😞
@@caitlin8274 it was a good movie
his cohost on his podcast at the time literally said you could go online and fill out the survey (which showed you watched both movies) and pick shane’s even if you didn’t watch the movie. which you weren’t allowed to do. no one talks about that
An “empath” would have no trouble understanding that a child, that cannot consent, is victimized repeatedly when content of them is viewed by predators. They’d have no question about the life that those victims must be subjected to in order to end up in such situations. How their lives will be impacted forever by the reach of this content. That is just one example of Shane’s utter lack of genuine empathy.
Also, not really sure an empathy goes around telling everyone they're an empath. Whenever I see people going on about how empathic and sensitive they are, I get kinda skeptical.
Not to mention a real empath wouldve never even done the shit he did bc theyd be sensitive to the response of their audience; he fucks up and is like "sorry didnt even know it would make u mad, this is why i did it, sorry you got hurt by that" and then when people call him out its "i 😤 refuse to perceive this criticism 🚫 no more hate"
And then... he bounces back like it never happened, not really much guilt or shame
Honestly i didnt notice this before bc i didnt watch him much but it seems more likely he Wants to be an empath and so he focuses so much on trying to be 'nice,' trying to care and be considerate, and actively trying to avoid hate, but he doesnt have these characteristics in his heart and so its a battle of always trying to Live Up to being an empath, but never actually being one
And just to tie this in to Tati.... imo she is the real empath, but she made a rookie empath mistake by jumping on james, and allowing herself to be influenced by the antithesis of an empath (jeffree) and someone fake like shane. The fact she hasnt been online at all since i think just really supports her case. And the fact the world hasnt forgiven her and cannot perceive this quality about her. Shane fucked up too many times, to a really bad extent, in many different ways, and he wants the world to ignore those things (like most other popular youtubers w scandals tbh). Tati fucked up once and cant bare to show her face. Its fucked
Narcissists are actually also able to sense people's feelings and needs. The difference is what they sense doesn't touch them and they use it for their good.
I can’t believe the story about Chuck E Cheese was hugely popular while Brittani Louis Taylor’s story about human trafficking went totally unnoticed, how could he even put those two stories in the same video
I still to this day am floored by that documentary and what Brittani went through. I'm normally not overly critical of influencers, content creators in the way they choose to post, edit, whatever - but her story deserved it's own episode.
I saw a comment that said it was probably to use hashtags like "pizza", "child", "trafficking" in the same video 👀 you know.. pizzagate
@@happyaccident4901 oof that's a thought
YES!!!
it was so bizarre to watch. she'd be talking something that her ex said that's one of the most traumatizing things that anyone could hear, and then it cuts straight to them sitting in a chuck e cheese freaking out over pizza. it felt so disrespectful. he definitely should've made it it's own video, and maybe talking about that kind of thing more broadly if he wants to have it be part of something bigger. these stories deserve to be talked about, but they shouldn't be sandwiched in between conspiracy theories about cheese pizza and ai voices
That head tilt with his long hair bothers me so much 💀
I know! I feel like my head and neck hurts whenever I see that old video of him lol
I know how you feel 🍷
no, that triggered me. like what the fuck bro. 😂
I thought I was the only one 😭
Same, America, same. 💯
Shane: "Im losing my mind"
People in the live stream: 🖐🏻 😍
LMAAOOOANDKKAYD
😍
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
"🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷❤️"
LMFAOOOO
What bugs me is he keeps using “I had a bad childhood” excuse at this point im like gets some damn therapy no one cares anymore.
Especially because he's 32 now. I understand that trauma has no age limit, but it's up to the person to help themselves recover in time. At this point, I feel like he's holding onto the "I had a bad childhood" story to make people feel sorry for him.
I have depression, but I've never been racist, pedophilic, disrespectful, rude, and hateful as a result. He gives a bad name to those with depression and anxiety.
Now I want to see you try and help a suicidal patient with that mindset
yeah because having trauma or a bad childhood it's no excuse to be an awful person
I know right. I too had a truly terrible childhood and experienced plenty of abuse from different people. And I did act very horribly because of it as a teen. And while the abuse and trauma I experienced do EXPLAIN my behavior, they don't EXCUSE it. Very big difference.
Shane needs to stop using his trauma as a shield to deflect criticism. He needs to own up to his shit for once and for all, and bear the consequences silently. (As a side note - if he truly has changed so much, he'd feel enough shame and guilt about his past actions that he'd bear the consequences and apologize without saying excuse after excuse and feeling like he has to explain himself.)
The only person Onision called an awful person and was actually right.
i once thought the Onision and Shane Dawson and Ben Sharpeno were 1 person
@@user-ib3yf4xm8r are they not
@@jessicab.3758 Yes because having a different political somehow makes you bad 🤔
To be fair, Onision did also call out Social Repose, and that was also a correct assessment.
Even a broken clock's right twice a day.
social repose as well actually
Title should have been “From Shane to Shame”
You are not a clown you are the entire circus
@@anthonya2226 Just do what I do and report their comments for spam.
They changed it!
Oh hey!
thats what it is now. what was it before????
After seeing him direct not cool I think we can assume he didn’t get the other movie/tv show deals because he’s a pain in the ass to work with.
Well, that and how horrifically offensive it was. Both the content and the creator of that... Sad excuse for a movie were a problem for almost everyone involved.
Jex G yeah but all those deals were way before not cool. So I’m guessing he was u bearable to be around and had horrible ideas so nothing worked lol I doubt Adam Sandler would put up with him at all lol
@@carnuatus I'm more offended at the fact someone gave him $250,000 for it. It makes The Room seem like The Departed.
@@MarillSweatshirt - If I could afford it, I would buy every special edition of The Room in existence. Blu-ray, DVD, VHS, laser disc. If there are any. And I can’t even remember watching The Departed, but I know I have. Lol!
I saw Not Cool and I don’t think I finished it. Slapstick humor can be done well, but that wasn’t it. I completely understand why Zachary Quinto said he was never getting that time back after watching it.
Shane: HOW DARE YOU MENTION YOUR ABUSE IN A VIDEO!! MANIPULATIVE!!!
Also Shane: Guys I was abused okay? :( I'm sorry :( I use my bad humor to cope with my abuse :(
I don’t fault shane for being abused in anyway. But the times he brought up abuse and molestation he contradicted himself he said in 2018 he was molested. But in his book from 2014? He flat out admits “can’t believe I was never molested.” Contradictions man
@@rachelelizabeth346 i think shane is disgusting but i don't really think that's something to call him out for (aside from the wording). not feeling ready to talk about something so instead alluding or making references to it, even in a way that flat out denies it is pretty common.
@@rachelelizabeth346 a lot of victims of child abuse spend a lot of time in denial or straight up just block memories of it happening as a coping mechanism. it could explain why he said one thing and then another
Another thing I like to say is that it’s a reason for his behavior, (a shitty one but an alleged reason nonetheless.) but it’s not an excuse
Oof
“I did not have sexual relations with that cat”
I was looking for a comment about this, like wtf
I feel like this guys voice adds to the quality of his content.
I was just going to comment about how this guy has a great voice for narration. He must do session work, and if not, he should. Anyway, good comment!
@@CheapRobot wow I didnt even notice how great this guys voice was till I read your comment and I'm over an hour into the video >.>
Reminds me of Jim Can’t Swim’s voice!
Exactly
@@SourRazberry me too!
Him talking about FETISHES when he was “justifying” pedophilia is the actual argument they use nowadays, so I 100% do not believe at all that he was joking.
It's like trying to justify rape, because you CAN'T justify it, like pedophilia which isn't a fetish it's where you need to get help.
its a paraphilia along with all the body part fetishes. thats just how science classifies it. acting on it isnt really the same thing, but clinically they are the same category of "thing"
I’m still trying to figure out which fetishes are ok and which ones aren’t
@@Murr248 As someone who has dipped their toes into the kink scene before and done my fair share of experimenting This is my opinion and Keep in mind im into some outlandish things. If your kink involves abusing or Hurting someone or something they cannot consent your king is wrong. Hurting someone or something they cannot consent your king is wrong. If your kink involves causing Irreparable harm Your kink is wrong. I know that some people are into Lake scat and watersports and all that fun stuff. Personally I will never understand that like that's a line I just won't cross. Don't @ me though just my opinion
@@Murr248 any fetish is fine as long as everyone is an adult, nobody gets really hurt and everyone agress to terms before hand.
So, wait, he is allowed to make fun of literally anyone and anything and people shouldn't be offended by it, but other people making fun of his weight in UA-cam comments is off limits?
That, and you can't voice disapproval of any of his work because he'll just tell you to fuck off because he "worked so hard" on it.
Ya he’s a typical racist
Gotta take the Bitch called Karma like it is or end up like Shane or Shame. Good or bad, whatever decision u take, make sure to have the word ‘KARMA’ in ur head before u do stupid shit, and if u do happen to have acted or behaved in a stupid way, just genuinely say sorry and don’t Bitch about being canceled or shit, coz people will have their own opinions about u, just like u do about others. I just explained KARMA to SHANE SHAME.
While I support the idea of open humor, its was rather hypocritical of him not to take jokes
@@PeruvianPotato As do I. In my opinion, almost anything is up for humor, especially because sometimes comedy can serve as a coping mechanism. Comedy also isn't meant to be taken seriously. However, when you base your entire career off of shock humor (which I don't think he was actually doing btw) you have to be ready for people to also throw jokes back at you.
guys it’s okay, shane’s an empath
In 6 words you just explained what is wrong with people who say they're "an empath." I love this comment.
Anyone who claims to be an empath also seems to think they are above everyone else and nobody else feels empathy like they do...That itself (saying other people don't feel emotions like you do) is the opposite of being empathetic. IF someone claims to be an 'empath', be concerned.
Me: I’m so sick of the Shane drama everywhere
Also me: *watches every drama video and documentary*
Same😅
We ❤ a self-aware queen
I've watched so much drama shit for the past 2 days that I need a break from it. I don't know how people deal with drama everyday or every other day. shit is tiring yo. Lol
Hi police, I'm in this comment and I don't like it
Same... but I think it helps me grieve. I followed Shane for a decade, I loved his content and the version of himself her marketed to us. All the scandals have tainted that, and it does hurt, I truly feel dirty.
Honestly we all do messed up things.
We've all made mistakes big and small.
Shane and Jeffrey star didn't acknowledge their faults until everyone called them out on it.
It shows that they didn't care.
If you care and respect you audience you should be the first to a dress any sort of allegations of anything of the sort.
As a content creator, influencer, and role model you should inspire others to be the best they can be and own up to your mistakes to grow.
Tell the truth and it becomes part of your past
Lie and deny and it becomes your future
They do be spitting facts
Yes!
making jokes isn't a messed up thing
Aros Bastion
It all depends on the person. If the person saying the joke was known for doing and saying things deemed offensive, question it. If the person gets offended, apologise. If the person just stares at you with a -_- face, make a joke on how you can't write jokes.
Jokes are all fun and games until it gets touchy and personal.
Drama Clown there's always one of you.
He tried to do what brandon rogers was doing except he couldn't differentiate his true personality and his personas. That's why it's ridiculous he started proclaiming to be an empath.
@Cherry Mae Raviz i agree so much
True.
@Raviz, Cherry Mae speaking facts
@Raviz, Cherry Mae Have you actually watched his past videos? I’m not defending him but did you actually see till the very end of Shane’s videos? He always added a lesson of life and how people can learn from his skits. Of course the way he did it was not always good, but Shane always wanted his followers to learn something and that’s why he didn’t end up like onision.
and he doesn’t do black face lmao
Being walked through someone's pedophilic internet activity was the most nauseating thing I ever heard
“i didn’t know what blackface was” take a wild guess shane.
I don't think it was soo bad.
It's the least of the things he's said or done. Imo
@@jaggirl "I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at cp" headass
@@jaggirl unless you're black its not your decision to make.
@@alivia8855 shut up i don’t have to be black to make judgement
@@lobaandrade3091 to make a judgment on weather his racism wasn't that you do.
Surely with all his money he can afford therapy. He needs to do something about his self hatred. His weight issues and his unpopularity. He’s an adult now with hopes to have children - he needs to resolve this shit before he can be happy and truly productive. Time to grow up Shane, I don’t know why with all your profits you’re still clamouring to become UA-cam popular with the UA-cam mean girls. He acts like a teenager.
Barebacking and being a power bottom can't get you children.
He shouldn’t have children. He’s said too many disgusting and creepy things about children.
I hope he never have kids, I don't want to imagine what could happen to them :(
That's where I draw the line. Shane has ample time and money to fix his issues that made his humor so dark. But he won't. He won't overcome himself and keeps company like Jeffree for money.
I honestly never wanna hear he has kids. Like ever. He’s said way to many ridiculous things with minors and children. He’s disgusting, I wouldn’t even allow him to change a diaper.
i hate how he calls it “the birds and the bees talk” when he literally spoke to her about oral like it was appropriate for a child
Exactly he tried to downplay it so much in his apology video and thats why I dont believe any of it
I am no way defending him but lets be honest, kids that age already talk that way. I know because I did when I was 8 trying to act older than I was along with my friends at the time
@@PeruvianPotato They talk that way to people their own age, not grown adults. There's an important difference
he heavily sugarcoats his action in his video, and only addresses it and quickly moves past it. This is how i know its not heartfelt and that he did it to save face
@@PeruvianPotato Yea, among other kids their age. There's a difference, as when they're talking with each other, they acknowledge that they probably shouldn't act on it. When adults talk to them about it, it's normalized and kids at a young age would be more susceptible to grooming, r*pe, etc.
Shane said that he “wasn’t a hateful person.” Did he forget how badly he treated his good friend, _Drew_ ?!? 🤨
Ik I’m way late but what happened between them?
Drew and garett watts
I still feel so bad for Bobby burns. Shane knew exactly what he was doing setting him up to be torn apart by his loyal fan base. Poor guy could’ve been so successful but Shane didn’t like him talking about his controversies and took him down.
I know and now Bobby is messed up thanks to Shane's fans and Shane himself
Oh please. Bobby sucked and still sucks. Shane didn’t make him do anything 🙄
@@trevormichael4906 ua-cam.com/video/QVNhB_3S2As/v-deo.html
@@trevormichael4906 what are you on about
Ok, I hate him too, but blaming him for the downfall of Bobby Burns is just not it. He’s done bad shit, you don’t need to try to make up a reason.
You really think Shane masterminded and planned a whole scheme to take him down by giving Bobby tons of support by attempting to boost his channel and giving him a car? That’s ridiculous.
I think everyone can change from their past. The problem with Shane is that he hasn't changed at all. The dramas that keep popping up are his deep problems.
He did change. The drama that kept popping up was the same shit different day. It were the same videos brought up every time.
@@huntingaliens5477 they only kept popping up because he kept doing shit that would cause people to dig further back and find a treasure trove of bull. Every time he did something new, people were just reminding others that he's been doing fucked up shit. People who actually change, don't keep doing the same shit and their pasts mostly get forgotten
Pedos don’t change. Tf
I notice a pattern with him. He dose something messed up says sorry and gives some sob story about how difficult things for are then the cycle begins all over again
Sounds like Jeffree Star also
Ah yes, the Boogie cycle
@G Bop 🤔 I have narrowed it down to three suspects and from my investigation into the Tupac case I believe it was Maggie Simpson, Pikachu or the virtual assistant paper clip from windows computers but I will let you know when I have found out which one of the three did it.
it's not a pattern. It's just that the same things have come up from the past many times and he had to apologize for them over over again.
I really like how you never demonized Shane so after 40 minutes of cheering for him the only reason you feel as disgusted as you do is because of Shane’s actions and his actions alone.
Sometimes just opening the box is enough, no need to describe what's inside. It'll show itself.
I thought the same. This isn't drama. Just facts.
What actions. You one of those people that calls funny characters and jokes “raythiz’m?”
@justinTime077 pretty sure they meant the beastiality and pedophilia
Dude permanently busted his neck trying to keep that swoopy hair tilt
So many people use the clip where he says "That's just how our family is" to excuse the inappropriate things he said to his cousin, but not body ever seems to point out, if true, how telling that is about Shane's family.
It's no excuse for his actions, he's old enough to know that shit ain't normal, just an observation.
Plus when he told his cousin to do inappropriate stuff he recorded it and uploaded it to youtube. He exposed a sexualized version of his underage cousin to a bunch of random people, some of whom might've been pedophiles....
His mother is certainly a weird one, to say the least.
Besos 4 oh and he was WELL AWARE of that, he even made jokes about how his views were gonna increase thanks to the pedophiles. Disgusting.
I'm wondering if his family is inbred
His cousins family said that, not him, get it right
his facade completely stripped away when he did that livestream jesus lol
True lol
fr😆
Which one? Was it the Tati stream?
Honestly!
im gonna disagree. You can be the kindest person in the world but when faced by your entire career ending and image being destroyed, I would be like that too. Especially if you are an anxious person. it doesn't mean all the kind things he's done is fake. That being said he's gross still lol
Foot fetishes cannot be equated to pedophilia, Shane!! Gods, that's fucking disgusting.
does anyone else just like cringe at the way shane dawson used to hold his head? and like it’s obviously to keep his bangs from falling into his face but it just annoys me so much, i can’t stand to watch his old videos. my neck hurts just thinking about it
yes 😂😂😂😂
good old emo days
@@sociopathyisbliss4658 this world is assimilating new darkness. New energy. If you want to see the dark prophet of our time: go to him. Love him. His channel name is "share his vision". Go listen to his wisdom. Sub to him. He teaches and displays many glorious and terrifying powers. And his forehead and feet are blessed with the blood of baby jesus. Go to him. ua-cam.com/video/A1D5B_qFv1I/v-deo.html
He's was cute back then
My side swoop is very bad, like his, but the way he tilts his head is very bad for his neck. (I believe) Like he needs a hairclip, he probably hurt his neck doing that lose s I often. THat's why he has double chins, to hide his neck problem.
Chuck E Cheese's pizza are miss shaped because there's a 16 year old in the kitchen cutting the pizza and shit. I worked at chuck e cheeses for 4 years.
Lmao I’m sorry dude I can’t help but laugh, It makes so much sense now. 😂
I think the misalignment is due to people ordering half pepperoni and half cheese and just cutting it in half and putting the two halves together
@@AndriaSilvaful I've worked at a lot of pizza places and a lot of my coworkers could not make even halves to save their lives. You just triggered me lol.
It's because they use a type of saw that's dull
@@Buttington_Headerson Guilty as charged, I tried but boy that pizza cutter fought me
i remember in his video with kathy griffin, he mentioned how filming a video at work got his him, his mom and his brother fired, and made everyone feel bad for him, when now we know that it wasn’t just the fact that he made a video at work, it was that he was making inappropriate videos at work. this is just one way shane manipulates people into feeling sorry for him
To be fair, while it’s his own fault and he deserved to be fired, I don’t think his mom or brother deserved to be fired for his actions tbh. Businesses shouldn’t punish family members for being related to someone who did something shitty. Idk this situation gets talked about a lot and compared to all the other gross shit he did, it’s like this isn’t that bad?? Fuck the company for firing his family members for HIS actions.
His mom does look like kathy Griffin 😂😂😂
Ok but also, Jenny Craig deserves it
@@briannawaldorf8485 if I remember correctly his mom too was making racist comments with him in the video he made on his work place or something that got him fired.
Yes!!! In a vlog he went back to that Jenni Craig parking lot with some friends to scream fuck you. For what? Being held accountable?? Lol
Something that always bothered me was no one ever said, about his “justification for pedophilia” that an adult can consent to using their feet or something, but beastiality and pedophilia are illegal because those groups cannot give consent. That’s why you can go to jail for it, not to forget the trauma it can cause to these groups and how it can skyrocket the chances of a child to develop mental disorders or become murderers/molestors themselves. That’s why it’s illegal.
I never saw young Shane Dawson before, is it me or Onision is like his copycat? Seriously, their ressemblance in speech and even just physically speaking is kind of uncanny
He’s obSESSED with Shane, it’s a long documented one sided beef
They actually used to be friends way back in the early days of youtube, but they had a falling out. Apparently they also kissed at some point for a video? And Onision has been accusing Shane of being a pedophile for years, which is... ironic. Basically their whole history together is just super, super bizarre.
That’s cause he is a Shane Dawson copycat
See back then UA-cam had darker humor which onision and Shane were known for basically edgy shit and I found it hypocritical people who laughed for that ended up saying its messed up when they found it funny themselves.
They were really close and they had the same style however onision took it to heart when they had a falling out and never stopped making videos on it. To this day onision talks ab Shane
Just because he was insecure at times, that doesn't excuse sexualizing children in skits or his wearing blackface.
UPDATE: Alright, a few things: I am not trying to say that Shane should be "cancelled" for his past behavior, nor am I saying that I don't get that some people would not be bothered by blackface (but really that side of his "apology" is not meant for you, so you can't really forgive it if you aren't the target of it). Besides, people have the right to call it disingenuous of an apology because of the fact that it is always motivated by fear on his end.
I am black, and I do admit that I don't really have much issue with it, or something I won't beat someone over the head with (but I do find Shane saying he had no idea that blackface was done in minstrel shows and that it was meant to offend blacks laughable as an excuse) . I think it's more the fact that his branch of humor is bad. At the least that while it is true that comedy is subjective and anything can be joked about, we can at least come to an agreement that Shane simply is not funny.
But mainly my main issue with Shane is of course the skits where he sexualized children.
@@neues3691 well let me explain.
They come from menstrual shows. Basically white people would paint there face black and make fun of black people.
So think of every minority stereotype and crank it up to 100.
Than have white people make fun of them
@@neues3691 they absolutely should be able to, but blackface takes it a step too far. One doesn't need to cake their face with flour and make jokes about having sexual relations with their sister to make a good joke about white people. Y'know?
@@neues3691 if there are minstrel shows for every race, comedy will become so boring, it's seriously bottom of the barrel stuff.
@@neues3691 sooo dumb. .. the answer is S L A V E R Y
There's nothing wrong with blackface.
You can get away with a LOT but sexualising children is not one of things you can get away with.
But...he did get away with it though.
@@YourPalFry I think she meant it was the nail in the coffin for Shane. Less people seem to care about his racism than his sexualizing of children. He probably wouldn't have come under so much scrutiny if not for the pedophilic and zoophilic "jokes."
Yeah, except it happens every single day, constantly.
Does..... does she know about Hollywood?
@@haustyl12 right? Like, literally the entire history of the entire Entertainment industry?
Let's take a step back and ignore everything else. He kissed a 12 year old girl. HE. KISSED. A. 12. YEAR. OLD. GIRL. That is disgusting and horrifying and he should be arrested for that.
What about the jizzing on the cat 💀
@@milkshakes3975 That as well is enough of a reason for him to be deplatformed/cancelled/whatever you want to call it even if he didn't do anything else, but yet somehow he's still on the platform getting millions of views
@@DistrosProjectsmust just be mad irrelevant because I thought he left the internet
DUDE THE GUM INCIDENT??
@@alim.9801 there was that too. but i was referring to a different one (yes there are multiple. wtf)
for those who dont know, shane has been making minor appearances on his instagram story and even appeared on rylands podcast. on the podcast he proceeded to call the stuff he was cancelled for "dumb drama"... for those who were hoping he'd change, im so sorry. he really hasnt.
Sounds like Leafy. Both shitty people that do shitty stuff and proceed to play the victim card and call the critique on them "dumb drama"
@ConfusedOilPainter Please dont call him a pedophile. As weird and inappropriate his humor was back then, i genuinely don’t think he is attracted to babies. As he said, it was all for shock value and humor back then was quite different and indeed weird… i just dont like how people throw the term out so recklessy when there are people that are ACTUALLY attracted to kids & engage in it.
@@MissTriana127 did you watch the video? There's tangible evidence of him being inappropriate with kids
You can tell he doesn't want to change.
@@autumnblack6373 yeahhh.. especially when you see his newest videos. you can just see he has no remorse for the people he negatively affects, especially bipoc
I probably shouldn't say that but his livestream feels like a Nikocado Avocado video lmao
It does lmao
😲
My exact thoughtsss
Agreed
LMAOAOAOA
Ellen and Shane both projected a warm,kind personality when they were actually awful people in reality..And now they are going down together....makes u think really when u have a certain amount of power and what u do with it can determine what kind of person you really are..
And ironically, he once said he wished he could be “the Ellen of UA-cam”. And then they were cancelled the same year
The people who have such power tend to be awful people despite the persona they present. People don't get into positions of power by being "warm" and "kind".
huh almost like thats what ppl do, theyre just fake and stuck up, full of themselves, oh but not you.
Ellen's not that awful when compared to the majority of other celebrities, she's just kind of privileged and out of touch for somebody who tries to be down-to-earth
It didn’t seem that convincing with Shane though. I’m honestly wondering what people really saw in him.
Hearing Joon The King say in his trademark professional monotone voice "You need to let the hate go, girl" is my favorite part of this video.
It bothers me how he acts like UA-cam has always “hated him” and he was never treated fair when he was making BANK from the beginning 😤
I really really feel like hes a narcissist. No, not what everyone thinks a narcissist is where they just really like themselves. An actual narcissist who masks who they really are by claiming hes an empath instead of the truth that he doesn't have empathy at all
Narcissistic people are actually filled with insecurity and self loathing which is why they must put others down to prop themselves up. They are fuelled by attention and validation. Nothing else truly gets through.
I agree 100%. I also strongly believe that his current mask is trying to mimic Garett’s personality. Shane seemed to have had a major personality shift after he met Garett. Just my personal conspiracy theory.
It's called a covert narcissist. Malignant narcissists are the only ones shown in media.
Omg you're right!
BINGO. You're exactly right and that IS what he is. He's so much like an ex-friend I had in high school, they even look alike, it's eerie.
'shane dawson is here,
creator of the year,
spent half of his career
in blackface.'
'Huh, no body remembers Shanaenae in this room?' 👀👀👀👀
I remember being so excited seeing those streamys and then this guy with the ukelele start shading everyone and it was fun and cute but then he said that to shane and THE WHOLE ROOM WENT SILENT, that guy is a hero
@@Privatesilvialol yea kinda like when ricky gervais hosted the golden globes, almost all of them you'll hear gasps like they're shocked someone could say something controversial. So fake, it's why I don't follow these mainstream wanabes.
@@Privatesilvialol he’s Jon Cozart btw. His UA-cam channel is PAINT
@@terra_the_nightingale135 jon cozart is so funny, way more than shane 👀
Anyone saying Shane deserves forgiveness should have their hard drives looked at
Shane's comment about how he was also molested doesn't make sense in that context. I'm truly sorry that happened to him, but he doesn't get to discount someone else's trauma because he was also traumatized. If anything, that's should make him more compassionate toward other victims.
But Tati was clearly being manipulative in that entire video? How do people not see that lol it’s sad she went thrkigh that but using it as a way to manipulate isn’t cool so I can understand why Shane was upset, especially seeing as he was abused too and was seeing it being used as a manipulation tool
I don't want to say that his molestation claim is fake, but I think it was in his first book that he wrote that he was surprised that he wasn't because of his eyelashes or something. I don't have his books anymore so I can't tell you exactly where it is
@@sasukesbussy7101 no one is saying Tati wasn’t being manipulative in that video, the problem is Shane’s immediate response was try to out-manipulate her
@@Bvshbvnny shane himself questioned whether he was actually abused when he reconciled with his dad. He didn’t flat out say it didn’t happen, but he did say that a LOT of the stuff he thought he went through as a kid didn’t happen or weren’t as bad as he remembered
from my perspective of someone who was abused as a child repeatedly, I get it on both fronts. I think that’s why I felt bad and leaned more on his side during that huge blow out when everything was coming out, It’s hard because victims of sa have a different way of reacting. Sometimes there’s so much anger and hurt and other times you just feel TOO MUCH sympathy to the point you are too trusting or too easily manipulative if someone had a similar experience/uses their sa to make you feel for them
Say it with me, kids. *"I was in a dark place-"*
Turn on the lights
Apparently the dark place was blackface...
“Sorry about this super horrible thing i did, i was in a dark place :)”
its mad that JJ called Shane out a year before he actually got cancelled
My dad used to say this after he left and my mom would always say “pay the electricity bill”
That black face explanation was so shallow. He could have done a little more research. Simple as a google search.
I always thought blackface was created, not to make fun of African Americans, but because they weren’t allowed to star in films. So they started dressing up as them, eventually making fun of them, yes. So i don’t think he did any research
"I didn't know that blackface was historically used to make fun of black people, so you should forgive me for using it to make fun of black people in the recent past."
oh ok
shanes whole channel was a damn minstrel show and this dude just said "yeah he was involved in some scandals lel"
My thing is even no knowing the history, which he did because people where consistantly calling him out for it but he blew it off as hate, I don't understand how for so long he did it and saw nothing wrong with it.
It’s also such bullshit to say that you “didn’t know” that blackface was wrong. It’s not like every public school in America tells you in history class why people said the n word or put on blackface, etc. he just didn’t care
I'm very happy with how seriously our culture takes pedophilia. Its such a huge problem across the world - it should be criminalized far more heavily in my opinion. Children are literally the most important group of people in our country
not just in america but everywhere. people forget children are humans. this is why i heavily disagree with ANY harm done to children, including beating them up as a "lesson".
@Jack-px8lf compared to where ? Half the world still lets 13 year old girls be married. Arabs believe that girls as young as 4 or 5 can be made wives.
I fully, fully support taking it as seriously as we possibly can but I'm not going to pretend like we don't. Its legitimately one of the worst things a person can do in our society.
Not serious enough, you should see his comment section in his recent videos
1 in 4 females are sexually abused before the age of 18 in America, our culture does not take pedophilia seriously in the slightest.
@Jack-px8lf its quite mixed i'd say
So we just going to pretend he didn't get his entire family fired.
Who is pretending?
Plus 6 other people who were his co workers
no wonder they cut him off
@@nooisebots The people who genuinely believe that racism is the worst thing
They explain it in this video why they were all fired.
Actually, Shane LOST HIS JOB at Jenny Craig because of a HIGHLY RACIST video he made while on the job. He always referred to his losing his job as an underdog story, but nooo. The truth is the video he made while on the job was horrific an Jenny Craig was appalled.
The video was of him and his coworkers pole dancing, actually.
Either way, he defaced the company partook in inappropriate content with his co workers and shot a racist video at the time. Probably all of them contributed.
And he was like a manager or something! He was in a good position! Then screwed it up.
Just to be clear I’m not defending him but you gotta at least tell use what he did, the narrator said his family was also fired and I doubt they would all be fired if it was just something he said. Who knows tho 🤷🏻♂️
So basically it was all from start he was highly messed up
Just gonna put this out there: it's not uncommon for pedos to also be into zoophilia since a lot of them get off on the control they have over their victim(s). Do with that information what you will.
thats just fucking nasty. how anyone can be into zoo or children is beyond me
@@wadelockard5592 Narcissism creates desire for power, and they feel power over children so they target them.
Shane 👏🏼 fkd 👏🏼 his 👏🏼 cat👏🏼 that poor, poor cat.
Way to lowkey accuse someone bruh
Animal and child abusers aside- I like ur Pinocchio-p profile pic
No matter what he says, claims or portrays, Shane HAS ALWAYS known what he was doing. He's always known what was wrong or right. He simply justified his wrongs on being an "insecure, overweight, poor kid". He's not intellectually deficient, he's just a terrible, scary, very much potentially dangerous person. An influential person at that when it comes to his social media following. Nothing justifies the awful things he's done.
We so so so truly need to forgive people for slights in their pasts so that they can move on and improve. But when it’s referring to things like child and animal abuse it is not a mistake or act of immaturity; it’s predatory behavior which isn’t checked and people let fly under the radar. I think it might be best to evaluate mistakes and shortcomings on a case by case basis and in this case he didn’t apologize for the legitimately bad videos and opted to cherry pick which videos deserved to be given attention and apologized over. It’s easier, for example, to -> excuse blackface vs -> explain m*sturbating in front of Willow Smith’s poster implying she gets him off or -> humping your dog for what reason exactly???
No apologies were at length discussing these issues and none even brought them up other than him saying “oh I think I might have done some immature things but I was young and stupid.” At some point we all are or were young and stupid and I guarantee the majority of people never made jokes like that or did inappropriate behaviors with their pets or kissed underage kids or even pretend jerked off to children. It’s not stupid nor is it naivety. It’s disgusting.
We will never know if the cat humping is true. But having multiple cats you could never hump one and still have an intact penis. That was just a disgusting unfunny joke. He did apologice for that.
@@romilemon Theres a lot of other content of him actually interacting with animals that was weird, regardless of if its old, there was a lot of that content. Js in case you didnt know, or wanted to know :p
@@Blue.1889 im not saying he didnt do anything weird or something, its just that the cat thing doesnt seem posible... without losing his pp
There is evidence of him doing sexual things to animals also the cat thing wasn’t frame like a joke either. He just said that afterwards when he got called out. If you want more info on the situation I suggest watching dangelo Wallace’s video on him.
Gray Cat this comment. Yes. D’Angelo actually posted up a video on Shane and shows examples of him being inappropriate with animals and children. You’re right.
my god, even in the earliest controversies, it's just all about him and his depression and his feelings and barely about the actual controversy
U saying that people aren’t aloud to express how they feel when they are alone?
@@jessj9088 they're saying Shane is deflecting and using his emotions as amour as to not have to talk about what's actually happened
So manipulative!!
Guy was on borrowed time to begin with. He got what he deserve imo
Ikr!! Taking a step back, he only talks about all his personal issues when he’s under fire.
When I was younger and watched his videos I used to think how unfair it was for the company to fire his whole family. Now it makes sense and is completely justified? Talk about playing the victim
Right!!!! He manipulated us into always being on his side
How was it justified that his whole family was fired for his actions?
@@TheConnoiseurofTheArtofSnort I believe they were also in some videos
@@TheConnoiseurofTheArtofSnort Because they participated and are therefore guilty by association. It's very common.
@@max0304 I'm confused as to how this comment relates to mine about his family getting fired?
how does one even come up with jerking off to willow? I’ve had a lot of similar traumas and experiences as shane and the worst thing i can think of doing to the poster while still having an ounce of humor is drawing a mustache on it or taking a pic of me flipping it off, but jerking off???? who the hell comes up with that other than a pedo? literally what?
The thing is, it’s not like his racist humor was more allowed back then. Black face was perfectly fine during the segregation times, but it was still racist as hell. It’s just that we now see how racist it is. It was never not racist.
I also dont like how he explains that black face was this thing was WAY BACK in the day...it still happens (I mean literally we have a prime example right here)
Big Blue Weeaboo exactly, people are saying “let it go, it happened so long ago.” That shit annoys me!
So where does that leave whiteface?
Hanskah even though whiteface started in the 19th century, there is no origin of it being racist, or meant to dehumanize white people. Unlike blackface who’s main goal was to make black people look like lesser beings. So in short, that leaves whiteface nowhere
In my opinion, dressing up as any race to make fun of it is wrong
@@huntsman9316 You're either lying or just plain wrong. The main defense of whiteface is that whiteface does not draw on a legacy of racism in the way that blackface does. In other words, it's not as racist as blackface. The origin of whiteface itself is rather murky. However, Lew Dockstader is credited as having both blackface and whiteface performances. Furthermore, blackface is actually not as black and white, if you'll pardon the pun, as so many believe it is.
1:07:45 "you're SO manipulative because youre saying you were abused"
1:02:25 *justifies racism with his inner sadness*
Racism? Jenna marbles did black face too and people arent calling her a racist
@@caroqt she literally quit youtube because her racism background resurfaced
@@icarusflies9670 yup, and as far as we know so did he. At least as long as he doesnt upload anything, if he even does.
@@icarusflies9670 i don't even think it necessarily even resurfaced she called herself out and took responsibility ON HER OWN so it's different when shane does it simply because he's pressured by the public
@@caroqt 1st of all: The difference between Jenna and Shane is that Jenna WILLINGLY called herself out on it and shared what she did to her audience. Nobody called her out on it nor did it resurface. She did it without anyone calling her out. Shane has been called our numerous times over the same thing but has never really apologized. He has always pushed it under the rug.
2nd: What does Jenna have anything to do with this? This is a video about Shane, don't bring Jenna into this.
i love how the old shane jumped out when he was doing that live stream 💀
Or in the palette series when the website was fucking up. He got so nasty with the lady on the phone.
Not really old shane......he's been that way the whole time
Did you see “the chair?” He was so rude to everyone
Black face is literally so self explanatory. I never looked into it and researched it but I know exactly what it is. Doesnt take a scientist Shane...
White face...
I think he meant the history and use of it, which also baffled me. Have you ever been to a school? They teach you that in middle school
So we gonna ignore the movie "white chicks"?
@@neksnek2032 thats what they always go with
is white face ok though? No? But...but that would mean you're a racist hypocrite!
I can’t even describe the uncomfortableness I felt every time he called that little girl “sexy” like what I never knew that
Wow Shane really pretended he was poor after making hundreds of thousand of dollars off of UA-cam and Not Cool. Wild
Can I just say I hate how Shane says "I dont even know that person" (in reference to his old self). Dont try to separate yourself from your past behavior. That was still you!own up to it
this! it’s textbook manipulation, the type of shit abusers do to their victims to get away with it. his entire “apology” was just him manipulating his audience by separating himself from his own behaviour so he doesn’t lose their monetary support under the guise of taking accountability. at least he didn’t really get away with it and most people saw through it
He's a terrible person but there is some truth to that statement. You are not the same person as you were when you were a teen. I'm 30 and I used to pull pranks in my teens, people in my childhood home town still think I'm like that. You develop your character the most during the late teen years if you think of it.
This isn't to detract from the fact that Shane has issues still, the guy's an adult now and needs therapy.
@@soarrefly sure you're right you do change. But that was still something you did. The thing is, hes not owning up to it and trying to distance himself from his past behavior so he can just brush it off and not actually acknowledge what hes done.
when you grow up you will notice how much that is not true. Don't take as offence but I can clearly see that you are younger than 18 from this comment.
everyone deserves a second chance and he has already had a huge back lash, its time REAL Shane fans support thier idol because he deserves a second chance already he has apologized like 50 times.
Okay. So let's say the cat story is false.
How does a man get into a scandal by calling a 6 year old sexy, and saying he googled naked babies not learn that depraved sexual shit said in a podcast will be noticed and spread around? If it's a joke, he's a idiot. If it's not, he's a monster.
I can't really feel sorry for him. There's just too much here.
Well, I'd say that comparison is offensive to monsters.
"he doesn't make these videos anymore" but yet he was still profiting off most of them until very recently when he finally deleted a bunch of his old shit. Not to mention was selling the shanaynay merch up until like 2018. AND he, himself admitted that all past apologies were disingenuous, so how are we supposed to believe this time is different? I started watching Shane in like 2011 when I was only 11-12 and blindly supported him for years. Seeing a huge creator behave this way normalized it for me for way too long until I finally got my head out of my ass and realized what a horrible person he was. Who knows how many millions upon millions of impressionable kids (just like myself back then) think this stuff is ok because of him... and who knows how many of them will never change. I don't think he'll ever be "cancelled", he will probably always have a massive fanbase backing him up, but it's important that he finally starts taking actual accountability and matching his actions to his words. Personally I can't ever support him again, but at least I can go in peace if I see him finally grow up for real
Same, I was little when I started watching him and the fact he new how young we were just makes it more gross. He groomed us
Well said and done!
i agree with everything you said. but the only thing you got wrong is he was still profiting off of Shanaynay merch until AFTER his pallet with jeffree cams out😟😟
u care too much stfu
Lmao. I agree with most of what you said but do not based your peace on him growing up or not. Feel guilty for not knowing better and being duped by him, and move on with ya life. You’re better than him.
shane has the voice of a south park character.
aye aye aye aye aye don’t drag south park down like that
@@jorjiiinnn i hate south park
@@20firebird i noticed lmao-
but even so, south park is DEFINITELY not shane level of awful
Yeah the voice of someone that Eric roasts RELENTLESSLY
Never knew his surname was Yaw
Yawn by now..
YAW didnt know that?
YAW YAW YAW YEET YAW
Maybe thats why he thinks he's so special. "Yaweh"
I will say this for Shane that both benefitted him and contributed to his downfall: somehow, he saw the writing on the wall and saw the culture of UA-cam start to shift away from edgy skits to more "personal" content, even pivoting to true crime content with his documentaries but all that older content was still there. The cynic in me thinks the "dramas" for the blackface stuff made him shift to more personal, emotional content and just bury that older cringe content, hoping his fans would soon forget it completely.
Unfortunately, he also was on UA-cam long enough to see apology videos become their own subgenre of UA-cam content you can perfect just like comedy sketches. As long as you SEEM sorry and ACT like you are sorry and make yourself seem like the victim somehow, it usually makes the drama die down eventually and you don't have to think about it because now your fans feel sorry for you and become more endeared to you. The problem is being accountable for your actions, understanding what you did wrong and growing and changing is not something he ever learned, hence the defensive and exasperated attitude with the later apology videos; you can practically hear him sigh heavily and roll his eyes like "GAWD! I ALREADY said I was SORRY!" Just burying it and getting into more drama means it'll just keep piling up and then it hit a breaking point where he had a huge meltdown. It's also really telling how he's still just "performing" by just throwing out that he was molested during the livestream, like he still wants to be seen as someone deserving of his audiences' pity even while he's spiraling out of control.
This guy on twitter wrote an open letter to Shane Dawson basically telling him that others have been through similar shit in life but haven’t done what Shane has done, so he needs to stop using his past to hide his shameful behavior
🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Did you mean SHANEful behaviour??? Sorry I'll leave
@@sociopathyisbliss4658 wtf with facepalms
Those old screenshots of youtube back then, god I'm so old
Seeing a picture of Shane as a child made me realize he has ALWAYS been wearing shirts that are oddly moist
Lol
Time stamp?
I think he is a chronic sweater
@@cheesyDELISH48 yup^
i was the 1k like :)
cohost: "you can get arrested!!" shane: "i know.." _*continues describing how he legit googles cp* how has he not been arrested
The only reason he hasn't been arrested is because there's technically no concrete way to prove that he did that. It sucks because he should be behind bars without a doubt
Dude Shane tricked us into believing he was a terrible actor with So Cool and thats what pissed me off the most...this man convinced most of UA-cam he was a decent person...
No no he’s a terrible actor, but a decent editor. He was able to cut out clips of him being garbage
@@DereBear I think he can also act better for YT than for an actual production. I think that's part of it. It becomes part of the YT schtick.
Derek Raynaud you got a good point
Anyone who looks up to UA-camrs, and I mean any UA-camr has already failed in life.
@@babymookie7176 i mean, making millions isn’t failure but okay lol
“I don’t wanna say mean things about people” bro you said the n word
right?!
I honestly believe no one should say it, yes that includes black folks...I mean the damn word is imbedded in pop culture with things such as Rap and the whole "Black pass" is an idiotic concept and creates segregation towards other races. Personally I couldn't care any less about the word, but if people wanna cancel you just because you were following the verses of some rap, then since the word is incredibly offensive to them, might as well start "canceling" the artists and folks that let it slip out their mouths.
@@goop_6537 unless you are black you have no say in this. plus the n word is used by black people to take back the derogatory racial slur just like the f slur
Exactly! Like it couldn’t get worse...
@@goop_6537 Right! 💯 ...
No, Shane. The sixties were not a long time ago. The practice of black face did not evaporate at the turning of the Ninetieth century, Shane. Black People had and still have to fight for those negative, pervasive representations to go away. Not only did you perpetuate negative stereotypes, you single handedly brought minstrel shows to UA-cam and are taking NO accountability whatsoever, nor are you educating yourself. That part about his “apology” shows he has learned nothing
^^^ african americans who were children during the 60s-70s, the peak of jim crow laws, are still alive today! it's not as "in the past" as people like to pretend, that excuse just isn't going to cut it for me
Ah yes because the efforts made in the Civil War and Segregation were all vain, only the "new generation" can fight for TRUE equality.
"people like shane who recycle offensive stereotypes and think its not a big deal when they do BLACKFACE are incredibly ignorant. racism is not dead, even thought slavery and jim crow are no longer a thing" = "fuck the civil rights movement" ? nice strawman my dude
My parents literally experienced Jim Crow laws
Peruvian Potato You aren’t black, so you don’t get to speak for black people. You’re hispanic. Educate yourself before you get triggered by basic human rights.
love how he yells about tati talking about her trauma only to talk about his trauma immediately afterwards as if his trauma is valid while hers isn’t (especially when he uses it as an excuse for racism) like ????
man... his reaction to tati's video is so dramatic and cringey
Damn, you gotta be a whole new level of fucked up to get yourself, your family and 6 other people fired at the same time. I wonder how these coworkers felt then and feel now about him
I was wondering if anybody would talk about that
Shane's co-host on the podcast would have saved him a lot of trouble if Shane just listened to her 👀
Yuup
She needs to be canceled too, for laughing and giggling about it.
@@sunitamosesesq I think she was laughing because she was uncomfortable
@@sunitamosesesq so we’re gonna cancel people for just being there now huh
@@sunitamosesesq it was more of an uncomfortable laugh whereas Shane called that girl sexy
second he typed in child porn on google
"... People who delight in torturing defenseless children or tiny creatures are in reality insane. The terrible thing is that people who are madmen in private may wear a totally bland and innocent expression in public." -- Akira Kurosawa
OMG, I'm so glad Joon mentioned Katie Morton. I study psychology atm and i enjoy commentary and psychology content - including her channel - on youtube. I had no idea she had a collab with Shane and yeah, it was a big bummer for me. I really dislike throwing words like "narcissist" and "sociopath" so easily, especially that not many psychology expert will actually use the word sociopath. Also the term 'empath' is just... Just pretentious. You knowing what people like to hear does not mean you're an empath.
What's wrong with the word "sociopath"?
@@nicholassapphire2022 I know it been a long time but using those words are actually pretty bad because not only are they not actual diagnosis anymore and fall under a broader category of antisocial personality disorder, but perpetuate negative stereotypes about less 'insta worthy' and digestible disorders. A person with the disorder and that genuinely tries to manage it is not going to show this behavior. Bad people aren't just mentally ill and mentally illness isn't always the cause either.
@Nirroir she didn't just hang out with him for one day but also claims (she had a video about it on her channel) they are great friends and she won't apologize for the documentary episode she made with him. Maybe you think of me as a judgemental person but I'm more concerned with her responsibility of being a very public therapist and I don't like the decisions she's making in that context.
I've commented similar things on other videos about shane, but I think it could add something here. Shane seems to think that being an empathetic person is a get out of jail free card. Just so we're clear, I personally do not believe that he is very empathetic, but I also believe that it doesn't matter. Even if he IS as amazingly empathetic as he claims, that does not say anything about who he is. You can feel all of someone's pain and still decide that you couldn't give less of a shit about it. Yes, people with high empathy tend to be kind, but that is not a set rule. Who you are is defined by the decisions you make, not the things you feel.
Honestly if you're a highly empathetic person and still choose to be a prick that almost makes it worse
Idk about yall, but something about grown people confessing their secrets and everything about their lives to pre teens is so weird to me...
exactly, this is some weird creepy shit.
yep. even if it's not intentional manipulation tactic to make the kids feel like they have some sort of special bond, an adult seeking comfort from kids just shows theyre unable to form connection with people their own age.
basically no matter what it is there must be smth wrong wit the adult.
Meh he was a young guy just venting to a camera, not aiming at a young audience purposefully. It's the fact that once he knew his demographic was kids he still kept up some pretty deplorable behaviour.
It seems to be a UA-camr thing.
Honestly? If he did it in a respectable fashion, I think it could be a very good thing. Like him talking about depression, how it's okay to have it, how you shouldn't be ashamed, talking about how many people suffer from it, speaking about his experiences, and educating the audience on how to get help. That'd be a very different story.
But him just giving sob stories to have people pity him and pity-love him, or to forgive his mistakes, or using them to make his "empath" character more believable... Or even to manipulate kids... That's gross.
Bro I had a tough childhood, I am *in* an abusive home and I've NEVER said and done the stuff Shane did